An interesting story……
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8064941/russia-military-base-caribbean-island-nuclear-bombers/
Regarding the stationing of Russian nuclear bombers on an island just off of socialist cesspool Venezuela.
UPDATE – an extremely good article HERE, when the base was still in the “maybe” phase:
https://www.rt.com/news/446899-russia-military-base-venezuela/
BOOM!
LEVERAGE.
Putin apparently has some now!
Clearly, after Venezuela (backed by Russia and China) was shown to be involved with the Soros brigade in sending gimmegrants from Honduras to our border, the Russia-Venezuela relationship has taken some heat from Mike Pompeo.
The question in my mind is whether this is actually a defense of Venezuela, or just Russia conveniently taking advantage of Venezuela’s extreme poverty and isolation now. If that was PLANNED, it sure was a great way to get a nuclear base, but I tend to think that Maduro’s problems are of his own making, not Russia’s or Cuba’s.
But I’m thinking the real story here is that Russia NEEDS a turnaround point for bomber flights over the US (around the US for the moment), and Venezuela now gives them that opportunity.
All of this takes place under the shadow of the INF Treaty problems, which appear to be related to the Russians ALLEGEDLY upping the range of some of their SCUD-replacing Iskander-M missiles:
The Iskander has several different conventional warheads, including a cluster munitions warhead, a fuel-air explosive enhanced-blast warhead, a high explosive-fragmentation warhead, an earth penetrator for bunker busting and an electromagnetic pulse device for anti-radar missions. The missile can also carry nuclear warheads.[1][13][14] In September 2017, the KB Mashinostroyeniya (KBM) general designer Valery M. Kashin said that there were at least seven types of missiles (and “perhaps more”) for Iskander, including one cruise missile.[15]
Wikipedia, Entry for 9K720 Iskander
The Epoch Times has some good reporting here, and notes that Trump had earlier not ruled out using force in Venezuela.
Some interesting dynamics there.
What do y’all think?
W
OK, maybe not.
Did they come back?
I thought those bombers left and went back home.
https://twitter.com/SIMikeSr/status/1074083746767228928
Here’s another mention of them leaving to go back home:
https://twitter.com/FinanzLinksWELT/status/1073514199018393600
I think there is some ambiguity. The Sun article I’m citing is yesterday (12/26) and updated TODAY (12/27), and references the earlier stuff, too.
It could be FAKE NEWS or it could be that they negotiated it up to a BASE, and that is the difference.
I think it’s worth pursuing further to confirm.
The Sun is kind of a rag, isn’t it?
They are using the same stock footage that came out earlier this month…before the articles around the 15th came out, saying the planes had gone back.
You can see that same footage here, in this RT video that was posted on 12/11/18:
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I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
Have you been watching what is going on with Oil prices?
Oil had gone up gradually, reaching a recent high of $76/barrel…which is good for Russia, since their sweet spot is around $70/barrel.
Recent trading, however, has brought Oil down to around $46/barrel.
Which is not good for Russia.
Are the two things related?
Russia’s main interest in Venezuela is it’s Oil.
So…I’m thinking that, yeah, the two things are related.
Didn’t Vlad just buy up a bunch of oil fields in Venezuela? Like five of them?
Did he?
Venezuela owes Russia a lot of money…since they’ve been propping up Maduro.
So Vlad probably didn’t have to pay any cash, if he took some oil fields.
Problem is…China has been giving ‘loans’ to Maduro too.
China has their eyes on Venezuela’s oil, just like Russia.
I wasn’t paying much attention, I think I heard it on FBN yesterday about the oil fields. The sharks are swimming around Venezuela, or the vultures, or something.
Wheatie, I’m not sure how much this adds to the discussion but here is the info on the oil fields. Basically, you’re right. Venezuela is kind of screwed, it seems.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/venezuela_gets_the_russian_bear_hug.html
The Cold War is back, isn’t it?
Long answer….
Some parts of it never left and we were idiots.
Bigger picture – we never actually understood the Cold War because our media was already partly taken over, and all we were getting was socialist fake news.
The degree of infiltration was much greater and more effective than we realized. Our media was FAKE a long time ago.
Things will actually be better because were going to get rid of fake news. It will happen. Once people realize that communist fake news is what it is, people won’t want it any more.
it is evolving into better labelling. “Wouldn’t it be great if we could unite and solve all our problems together?”
Here is something intermediary, that a base might have been in the works….
https://www.rt.com/news/446899-russia-military-base-venezuela/
Prelude to Caribbean Crisis 2.0? Russia reportedly eyes air base off Venezuela’s coast
Published time: 19 Dec, 2018 21:43
Edited time: 20 Dec, 2018 14:12
As Washington is determined to leave the landmark INF Treaty, it seems Moscow is looking for a response. Russian media has cited diplomatic sources as saying that Moscow is eyeing a strategic air base off Venezuela’s coast.
The arrival of two Russian Tu-160 strategic bombers to Venezuela earlier this month has provoked a nervous reaction from Washington and led to a brief heated exchange between the US and Russian officials. This might have been a prelude to a more ambitious endeavor, Russia’s Nezavisimaya Gazeta (NG) daily revealed, citing military and diplomatic sources.
Sources told the paper that Moscow seeks to create a semi-permanent base for the Russian long-range aviation on one of Venezuela’s islands in the Caribbean Sea as it prepares for “long-time military presence” in the US ‘backyard’.
The base was allegedly planned to be established on the Orchila Island located in the Caribbean Sea some 160 kilometers away from the Venezuelan capital of Caracas. The isle hosts a Venezuelan airfield and a Navy base and was already visited by the Russian military ten years ago. The late Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez even offered Russia to set up an air base there back in 2008, the NG reported, adding that Moscow hesitated to make such a decision at that time.
VERY long article after that….
I dunno, Wolfie…RT is a propaganda nozzle for Russia.
So I take whatever they say on things like this, with a grain of salt.
Pres Trump says we are no longer going to be the “world’s police”.
The globalists hate this.
They want us to continue to make the world safe *for them*, for their globalist enterprises.
So all of a sudden, the media starts playing up this “Russian base in the US’s backyard” story.
Poland wants to build a permanent US military base.
How far is that to Russia?
Fort Trump. I’m in! Let’s do it! Move our troops out of Germany.
Heheh.
That’s me too…it sounds great.
But then, how can we object to Vlad setting up Fort Putin in our backyard…if we’ve got a base in his backyard.
Well, I suppose it depends on one’s point of view. From my point of view, the US set forth the Monroe Doctrine somewhere around 1825. A major policy statement. Foreign influence, stay away. The Americas are ours.
We are a lot bigger and more powerful country than Russia. I get why they might not like us in Poland. But they don’t like us in Germany, either, and there is Russia/USSR’s horrific history with regards to Poland.
TBH, I am not concerned about what Russia thinks about it. I get that to an objective observer it might seem hypocritical. Shrug. Realpolitik.
In a speech on Nov. 18, 2013 before the Organization of American States, John Kerry stated, “The era of the Monroe Doctrine is over”. It represented another act of dismantling by the Obama administration of American exceptionalism. Replaced by the Kerry Doctrine of appeasement?
John Kerry = The man from BAD
Kerry has been like the gremlin on the wing (Twilight Zone episode).
And…
Sylvia, thank you for expressing my view on this so very well. Soviet Union enslaved eastern Europe for years anyway, and we will protect our allies.
To quote Q: expand your thinking.
The globalists – owners of all central banks and fiat currency debt – have been pushing war between the US and either Russia or China, doesn’t matter which for profit purposes, forever. War is a big money maker for the globalists. Remember, that was supposed to be one of Hillary’s objectives – get us into an endgame war with whoever and take care of “overpopulation,” profit, and getting the entire world under a single government. That idea is obviously still being pushed. The question at this point is are these moves by Russia and China genuine or a coordinated bluff for distracting headlines. There is no real way to know.
At this point, the three big dog countries who really want to be rid of the globalist yoke, now that VSGDJT is president, are the US, Russia and China. Note who the players are in this case.
Anything we’re seeing in any MSM or government mouthpiece is part of the show, IMO.
Maduro is like the guy who has been skimming money from a Columbian drug cartel.
World court gave the biggest oil field back to Citgo (?), 40-60 billion, I think.
Then, we have Maduro taking money from the Chinese.
When Russia shows up, Maduro takes money from Russia.
Maduro is not long for the world.
for you wolf
Love it
Venezuela is on sale, we should be buying. Darn it, now Vlad has snapped up an island.
Sylvia, we should have bought ourselves some sister islands with great beaches. I will be happy to cook, someone needs to make sure we have cold beer. Whole Q Tree invited!
Great idea, an island for the q tree. Love it.
Q Island!