New Thread. We all needed a shower after Cohen this afternoon. Let’s refocus our energy. Check out this extraordinary letter from Dennis Rodman. It’s a beautiful letter.
From Flep, here is the schedule for President Trump and the whole team.
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SCHEDULE
EST/Local Time
8:25 PM (Wed)/8:25 AM Depart JW Marriott Hanoi en route to the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Motorcade
8:45 PM (Wed)/8:45 AM Arrive at the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
9:00 PM (Wed)/9:00 AM Participate in a 1:1 bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
9:45 PM (Wed)/9:45 AM Participate in an expanded bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
11:55 PM (Wed)/11:55 AM Participate in a working lunch with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:05 AM/2:05 PM Participate in a Joint Agreement Signing Ceremony with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:40 AM/2:40 PM Depart Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi en route to the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Motorcade
3:00 AM/3:00 PM Arrive at the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
3:50 AM/3:50 PM Participate in a press conference [Live Stream]
5:15 AM/5:15 PM Depart JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi en route to Noi Bai International Airport – Motorcade
5:55 AM/5:55 PM Arrive at Noi Bai International Airport – Hanoi, Vietnam
6:05 AM/6:05 PM Depart Hanoi, Vietnam, en route to Joint Base Andrews – Air Force One
Friday March 1 – All times EST
1:10 AM Arrive at Joint Base Andrews
1:20 AM Depart Joint Base Andrews en route to The White House – Marine One
1:30 AM Arrive at The White House – South Lawn
Trump/Kim Summit 2.0 + Presser. Overnight Thread.
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Hugs to you daughn for setting this up for us!
Hugs to you too, Sylvia, mi’ dear! I’m excited. Let’s go solve world peace!
And leave FAKE NEWS behind! 😀
WE are the news now!
Love the Dennis Rodman letter!🤗 Strange, but interesting, that he’s a friend to both POTUS and Kim. God works in mysterious ways, for sure!
No kidding. I couldn’t have plotted that out to save my life. Truth is surely stranger than fiction.
Can you believe it? Grace and poise from Rodman.
The lefty veggies envisioned whirled peas instead while we watch VSGPDJT and Chairman Kim make history!
Vietnam is 13Hrs ahead of us. Also instead of repeating shows, Fox has continuous Summit coverage all night and morning long.
GA/FL shared this on my article from earlier this morning.
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SCHEDULE
EST/Local Time
8:25 PM (Wed)/8:25 AM Depart JW Marriott Hanoi en route to the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Motorcade
8:45 PM (Wed)/8:45 AM Arrive at the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
9:00 PM (Wed)/9:00 AM Participate in a 1:1 bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
9:45 PM (Wed)/9:45 AM Participate in an expanded bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
11:55 PM (Wed)/11:55 AM Participate in a working lunch with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:05 AM/2:05 PM Participate in a Joint Agreement Signing Ceremony with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:40 AM/2:40 PM Depart Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi en route to the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Motorcade
3:00 AM/3:00 PM Arrive at the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
3:50 AM/3:50 PM Participate in a press conference [Live Stream]
5:15 AM/5:15 PM Depart JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi en route to Noi Bai International Airport – Motorcade
5:55 AM/5:55 PM Arrive at Noi Bai International Airport – Hanoi, Vietnam
6:05 AM/6:05 PM Depart Hanoi, Vietnam, en route to Joint Base Andrews – Air Force One
Friday March 1 – All times EST
1:10 AM Arrive at Joint Base Andrews
1:20 AM Depart Joint Base Andrews en route to The White House – Marine One
1:30 AM Arrive at The White House – South Lawn
Hey Flep, if okay with you, I’m going to recopy and paste into this thread as well. Might be a good idea for people to follow along. Thanks, Flep.
Never ever have to ask
Here is a good link if you want to include it
“…how to establish a socialist-oriented market economy.”
This is what the female news reader said, in the above video…as a ‘goal’ of the meetings.
Um, I don’t think this is a ‘goal’ that our President actually wants, but he sees it as a baby-step towards denuclearization.
And Kim is staying over in Hanoi for a couple of days, after Pres Trump leaves.
The male panelist said that this is presumably so that Kim Jung Un can see how he can create in NK what has been created in VietNam.
Complicated business…for our President.
I’m sure the SoComs here in the US will point to these countries now, as examples of how ‘great’ socialism/communism can be.
Arrgh.
Didn’t mean to confuse, I apologize, I’ve been biased. 13Hrs if for us peeps (ME ME ME🦋🦋🦋) in CST. 😃 12hrs is for my brothers and sisters in EST. And well, the rest of you, my beloved, can cackylate accordingly🤓
Heheh…yeah, I’m in CST too.
So it’s 13 Hrs for me.
And just think, for our peeps in Mountain Time and Pacific Time…it’s even more:
MST – 14 Hrs.
PST – 15 Hrs.
Not sure what it is for Hawaii and Alaska…is it 16 or 17 hrs?
I knew you’d understand Miss Wheatie😃 After today, and this late at night, my brain’s on strike, AK and HI are gonna half to cipher for themselves, LOL.
Be on the lookout for this to be part of the agreement tomorrow. This is a game changer because it would eliminate any future nuclear weapons while allowing Chairman Kim to keep what he currently has so that trust can continue to be built for future summits and negotiations.
We will most likely agree to the ending of the Korean War signed by China and us with North and South Korea being there to sign as well and some sanction relief after the site is completely cleared and inspected by outside inspectors that mutually agreed upon.
Here we go!
https://twitter.com/i/events/1091356879240847363
The link has our President and Chairman Kim speaking now.
POTUS and KJU are in their one on one 9am 40minute meeting now. Started approx 8:03p CST.
Awesome!
Man these ppl and their commentary – the BS is thick with these ppl. “Trump loves doing these summits and the media attention he gets from them” and “This is Trump’s reality TV moment”… “[but] we’ll have to see if there is really any agreement or if this is just stagecraft” GAG. There’s a reason I don’t watch these idiots.
Seems these nether-ports haven’t acknowledge Trump is now PRESIDENT. 🙄
My dislike for urinalists grows daily.
Michael the link I shared above is really good with my spin. It is a South Korea feed.
I like Knoller. He’s the best of the MSM for straight reporting and he gets no love.
totally agree daughn
Because he isn’t willing to be a sleazebag journalist like the rest of the MSM. He is fairly straightforward, and thus, fair.
And you know, that is all I ask. I don’t need someone to be on PDJT’s side always in his corner always singing his praises. I can get that from others.
What I desperately need, want, desire, is just simple plain old fashioned straight-forward reporting. That is absolutely all I ask. But wow, it is sure hard to find.
Knoller is an exception. The others are too busy being partisan hacks, and likely never really were genuine journalists. Likely once the Leftist Dem take over was complete in all big corporations, especially the media, they only higher people with appear to have the correct ideology not the correct skills to do fair and unbiased reporting.
The WSJ had a nice front page headline and article noting that Vietnam had “rolled out the red carpet” for North Korean leader – well, they had also rolled out the red carpet for our President, but they won’t ever give POTUS honest reporting.
make that “hire people” – middle of the night typing.
He gets no love because he works for CBS and he doesn’t spread biased Fake News like his compadres. It benefits him. The AP and Reuter’s guys that asked Cohen questions today have been whining all over Twitter about getting kicked out of the dinner, but there Knoller is in attendance, with the scoop, Rewarded for his journalistic integrity.
flyjesusgrl, saw that. Whoa, right? Hey, they were warned.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/27/reporters-who-shouted-questions-about-michael-cohen-at-trump-during-kim-jong-un-photo-op-barred-from-dinner/
Oh, I love this! OUT LIKE CHUMPS.
rules with regard to NO domestic questions during photo ops and meetings with foreign dignitaries were not ignored until the Trump Administration. It’s more in your face disrespect indicating that they don’t acknowledge him as president.
Those that break the rules ought to be relieved of their press badges… missing opportunity to cover dinner is small consequences.
It’s more than dinner, they’re banned from the pool coverage. Per Sarah Sanders, “It was down sized due to the sensitivity of the issues”. The idiots are completely unaware. The Asians DO NOT tolerate disrespect!! Not one bit. Saw a comment earlier that if someone had done that in China, they’d remove them and kill them. Don’t know if that’s true, but I’m sure the consequences would be very extreme.
If the disrespect was to the Chairman for Life? Yes, I think they would either end up dead or wishing they were.
Well, look what happened to that horrible Jorge Ramos. He was disrespectful or something to Maduro so Maduro confiscated his films and “detained” him.
You’d think they’d learn the world is not their oyster.
Rucker is complaining, and the replies make it sound like they’re all brainwashed and braindead. The media is used to being in control in this country and can’t stand it when they’re slapped down in a foreign country.
9:36pm CST, POTUS and Kim emerge from meeting, take a short garden walk, and gather their teams for the next meeting.
Thought I drop this here because you know how I feel about Governor DeSantis! This man will be our 46th President in 2025 and he will absolutely carry the legacy of PDJT forward. He understands and values TRUMPISM!
https://twitter.com/shepmjs/status/1100936897579241473?s=21
So proud of our DeSantis. Poll numbers are threw the roof.
https://twitter.com/M2Madness/status/1100947101167554560?s=20
“fancy Movie” LOL!!!
https://twitter.com/1776Stonewall/status/1100955418682146816?s=20
Love that Laura Ingraham played a montage of MSM and Dem clips when they were freaking out over Fire and Fury and Trump’s gonna get us killed, etc… Then they pull this Cohen crap on such a historically important day. They’ve only proven to me that the Democrats cannot be mature adults and have NO business in leadership positions in our Government.
OMG, Wolfie!!! Laura Ingraham just asked “What are the chances that Dennis Rodman works for the C_A, and has been running this whole deal?”
I heard that and the hair stood up on the back of my neck.
IKR?? She said it out loud on live 📺!!
Laura can be really dumb sometimes. Q has already pretty much said that NK was being controlled by the Deep State aka CIA/et al. They wouldn’t be privy to their pet breaking away.
Rosie has some great pics…
Ed Henry reporting that NBC spreading rumor that Trump has given up on inventory list of nuclear sites. MSM and Twitter blowing up, to the point that WH staff had to call meeting with press to tell them it’s not true. Good Grief!! Everything will not be resolved at this Summit. It will be baby steps. Just that we are where we are now is so amazing compared to where we were when O left, headed for nuclear war. POTUS is building a relationship with Kim, that takes time. Love our POTUS!! 💕
NBC is busted again.
LIARSSSSS at NBC.
Fake news.
North Korea has been brainwashed for over 70years to hate and believe that America is their number one enemy. It’s a cultural, multi generational belief system and way of life for the people. It’s gonna take more than a little while for Kim to slowly walk that back. We need to pray for the North Koreans.
Amen.
China is in some serious trouble!
From the article linked above:
The official Purchasing Manager’s Index (PMI) fell to 49.2 in February, data showed on Thursday, the weakest level since February 2016.
The 50-point index mark separates expansion from contraction on a monthly basis.
Analysts surveyed by Reuters had forecast the PMI to come in at 49.5, unchanged from January.
Economic growth in China cooled to its weakest in almost three decades in 2018, and analysts expect a further softening in coming months before stimulus measures start to kick in. Many fear a sharper slowdown in the world’s second-biggest economy if current Sino-U.S. trade talks fail and the dispute escalates.
https://twitter.com/benktallmadge/status/1100960797235134470?s=21
Must be pretty humbling to realize that all their success of the past 3 decades has been totally dependent on us taking a dive and not on their economic prowess.
Hey Flep, did you see this? China has a hard deadline.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/26/commerce-secretary-tariffs-will-rise-for-china-if-no-deal-at-mar-a-lago/
“Our negotiations with China have already addressed many of the outstanding issues we face with them. So, President Trump is willing to extend a bit the deadline on tariffs to see whether we can achieve an enforceable agreement in an ultimate session at Mar-a-Lago,” said Ross.
He added that if they do not forge an agreement at such a Trump-Xi summit then the U.S. “will go forward with the original plan to raise tariffs on $200 billion of imports from 10 percent to 25 percent. And, meanwhile, the 25 percent tariff on $50 billion in Chinese imports will remain in place.”
Flep! Watch this!! WOW!
Getting really interesting!!!
Marica, I love this graph through time. Watching China in the new millenium, knowing that WE gave them that exponential growth thanks to our rat bastard Uniparty sellouts, including Bush & Obama!!
It’s almost like #FakeChinaGDP 😠😡😠😡 It will be interesting to watch the next decade.
Exactly!!! It’s gonna be an ‘Amazing TIme to be Alive”!!!
That’s amazing!
right Michael!! The Coolest graph I have ever seen!
The WINNING graph!
No wonder China thinks they are hot stuff. They have been unstoppable. Till now. And thanks to our foolish, feckless leaders.
Sorry, hit enter too soon.
Point is, China didn’t, COULDN’T, do it on their own. I wonder if they have forgotten that little fact?
Since when have facts ever gotten in the way of sheer hubris?
This is super promising!!
https://twitter.com/BluesBrother91/status/1100968958113579008?s=20
Marica – that first one is a ‘take’ from Flashdance – one of my alltime favorite movies! What a hoot 🤣🤣
Alison!! Mine too!!! Funny story–( i know I went to bed but can’t sleep!) Took my daughter to see Broadway series Musical of Flashdance!! Loved it!! As we were driving home she said ” HA! Now I know where you got your dance moves!” LOLOL!!! I died.🤣🤣🤣
What a Feeling … Make it Happen Bada Bing Bada Bing 🤣🤣
her favorite song–I’m going on a Manhunt!!! HA!!!
I loved Flashdance. Great music!
The entire family is racist! She did this AFTER her husband’s fiasco.
AFTER?!!! Dang!!! Gov. Northam still moonwalking through the Governor Mansion!! (stolen from Shem)
🤣🤣🤣 I can’t even.!
Where’s that Winnamins Baby?!?!🤗🤗
butterfly!! –My other twin!! I just watched this!!! WOW!!!!
That is excellent. Clearly and concisely captures what’s going on. One of the best political cartoons!!!
I thought the same and dragged Hubby over to look at it.
I hope that cartoon goes viral!
I am very happy that Sec. Pompeo & COS Mick Mulvaney are the wingmen on this trip. I trust that both of them are solidly in President Trump’s camp; they truly serve their boss and our country well.
Definitely two great guys who have our VSG’s back 100%. Couldn’t ask for better support.
Reuters reporting it too. Kim says he’s here to discuss the denuke.
JUST IN: North Korea’s Kim Jong Un says if he weren’t ready to denuclearize, he wouldn’t be here, adds that they are discussing steps Live #TrumpKimSummit updates: https://reut.rs/2EgWA63
I tried to go to sleep Daughn!! I cant!! this is so Amazingly historical!!!
I know, I’m too excited to sleep!! And we have another 3-4 more hours to go til the POTUS press conference!!! Maybe a nap 😴 on the couch??
Nap is a good idea!!! So afraid I will Nap and Miss IT!! But I do have cell phone alarm and its like a Battle Stations Alert! so there’s that!
LOLOL, me too, that’s also my ringtone!! You are so my Sister from another Mister!!! 🥰🦋👯♀️🦋🤸♀️ 🦋😍
SO True Butterfly!!! Zoe thinks we are!!!🤣😍😘😊😎
LOL, Yeppurs!! 🤗🤣
Tee Hee Hee, couldn’t happen to a nicer group of folks!! 🤗🤗
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/02/27/february-delivers-humiliating-ratings-month-far-left-cnn/
U.S. Journalist: “Chairman Kim are you willing to denuclearize?”
Chairman Kim: “If I’m not willing to do that, I won’t be here right now.”
PDJT: “That might be the best answer you’ve ever heard.”
U.S. Journalist: “Are you willing to take concrete steps to denuclearize?”
Chairman Kim: “That’s what we are discussing right now.”
U.S. Journalist: “President Trump will there would be a political statement to end the war?”
PDJT: “No matter what happens we’ll ultimately have a deal that’s really good for Chairman Kim and his country. That’s where it’s all leading. It doesn’t mean we’re doing it in one day, in one meeting. I really believe with this great leadership North Korea, I really believe it’s going to be very successful.”
U.S. Journalist: “Chairman Kim are you ready for the US to have a liaison office in Pyongyang.”
PDJT: “That’s actually an interesting question. I would like to actually hear that answer. “
Chairman Kim replied: “That is something that is welcomeable.”
PDJT: “The idea was a great thing.”
Shannon Bream per Sarah Sanders, POTUS to hold single press conference within the next hour. Wouldn’t commit to signing of a document, things are still fluid.
Well– Glad I stayed up!!
One…More…Hour… Please pass the toothpicks🤪🤪
I don’t hafta hear ARUUUGA from my phone..so that’s a plus!
Beep Beep!! 😆 It’s late, we’re tired, but Isn’t that RoadRunner from the wayback Machine?? BEEP BEEP, ARUUUGA!!
It is Sweetheart!! I am so glad you get me!!! 🤣🤣🤣😎
OMG, I surprisingly, delightfully, surely DO!! 🤗😍🤗 LOLOLOL, TOO FUNNY 😂😂
Surprised, because I remembered. As giggly silly kids, We use to play a game where we pushed on someone’s nose 2 times while saying BEEP BEEP, then do the long pull of the nose, ARUUUGA!! Annoyed the grownups to no end!😂
****Fox News Update**** – Travel Pool Press waiting in room where lunch was supposed to happen, pulled into holding room, told by Sanders that while negotiations are still ongoing, POTUS was expected to leave hotel in 30-45 minutes and head back to his hotel, the Marriott, and that the Press Conference would be moved up from 4pm to 2pm, which was the time the original signing should have taken place.
Don’t know if signing already took place or is cancelled, Too soon to tell anything
Both Motorcades staged
Hmm…this is different from what is being reported on Fox.
The reason why the time for the presser has ‘changed’…is because Pres Trump and Kim Jung Un are still talking.
But Bloomberg is trying to spin it in the worst possible way.
Now they’re saying on Fox that Pres Trump will be holding a “solo news conference”.
We have to trust POTUS has this and is well aware of what’s up.
So question is where for the press conference, place where they are now, or back at the Marriott?? If I remember correctly, Kim bailed early on the last summit, too. Maybe he’s skipping hotel lunch because of his food paranoia and he’s really really hungry😃
Yeah I get the munchies too.
“I will NOT sign any agreement UNTIL I get my Big Mac!”
All sorts of theories are floating on twitter:
https://twitter.com/MAGA__Media/status/1101005506552815616
Could be a Reykjavik moment.
Could be trolling the media. (Would make me very happy but still difficult to watch.)
Could just be that everyone needs a rest.
WH says No Agreement reached. 😩
Press conference to be held at Summit hotel, setting up now. Again Officialy per WH, NO AGREEMENT made.
They’re setting up for a presser at the Marriott, which is PTrump’s hotel.
…per Fox.
Sarah said teams will continue working, so that’s a good sign. There will probably be several more Summits. Bill Hemmer just reminded, it took Reagan and Gorbachev 5 yrs. We’re a microwave society, NK is kinda in the Stone Age. Patience, Grasshoppers. No deal is better than a bad deal.
I hear the Internet breaking!!
Yep.
Bummer.
According to an anon on 8chan, South Korean news just reported that Kim said he would be willing to accept a Nobel Prize if it went to both him and DJT. Won’t hear that on our news.
https://twitter.com/BluesBrother91/status/1101009303945838592?s=20
Ima going with the 48 hour rule…
Pins and needles, y’all.
The worldwide MindControlMedia are all tripping over themselves to report that “Trump has failed” to make an agreement with Kim Jung Un.
All the usual suspects…their tweets are so vile, I refuse to post them here.
I loathe these people!
Yeah the Left is delirious with this development. They really don’t care about peace or anything else as long as PTrump can be made to look bad.
It’s so strange that Un seemed so sure, made the statement about denuking…and then wham
Interesting. I smell China stalling it. Just my gut instinct.
Well…”no deal is better than a bad deal”…so I’m thinking that little Kim tried to get ‘something for nothing’.
So our VSG just said, “that’s it”, and walked away.
Yup. Can’t Stump the Trump. Kim’ gonna have to stop letting the ChiComs manipulate him. And the’re probably pulling some crap out of left field that he has no clue is really them.
I think it’s *all* connected…even to Venezuela.
And woah, Pres Trump just mentioned VZ!
Yup.
Commie clean-up. WW. BRING IT. 😎
NO KIMMY, WE’RE NOT REMOVING THE SANCTIONS!!!
Yep, I thought that too. Ross just announced Tariffs rise after Mar-A-lago. Very Foolish on China’s part, Kim’s too.
POTUS aint no fool, HE DONT PLAY and HE DONT BACK DOWN!
Don’t even TRY to Stump the Trump.
Sometimes you have to walk!
“Sometimes you have to walk.” <— Pres Trump
I suspect that this was a MONSTROUS wheat-chaff sorter by Trump, and one or more parties failed.
The cabal tightened its grip somewhere. NK is one of the parts of the fight we are allowed to see. If the money supplies really have been cut off, there’s something else out there, and Kim is caught in the middle. Trump has to know this.
We wanted Kim to do more, but he was not prepared to.
I knew it, they wanted all sanctions lifted!! H€££ NO!!!
We know every inch of that country! Kim wanted denuke of only certain areas, we wanted more.
Did little Kim bring up Venezuela as a ‘condition’ to their deal?
I’m thinking that he did!
Sean Hannity asking Potus a question now…bringing up Reykjavik.
Kim promised POTUS last night that he wouldn’t do anymore nuclear rocket testing.
Cohen question 🤬🤬🤬🤬 Damn idiot!!
ChiComs. America’s Commie press does their work.
PTrump answering a question about Cohen…he questions the ‘timing’ of the Dems having his testimony during this historical meeting.
So inappropriate!!
RED CHINA
HOUSE OF COMMIES
COMMUNIST FAKE NEWS
VENEZUELAN COMMIES
UNIVISION COMMIE JORGE RAMOS with his bogus info hand-off
MUH RUSSIA jumping to Venezuela’s defense
I mean, seriously, is this even a question?
It is ALL coordinated.
Knowing that, how do you play?
Exactly the way it’s being played. Give them every chance to bail from their stupid plot.
PT – I’d much rather do it right than do it fast.
No mistakes. A *GREAT* deal or NOTHING. No Obama deals. NO WAY.
I think the ChiComs pressured Kim to bring up Venezuela in their talks.
Probably told PTrump that he had to ‘back off in Venezuela’.
And our VSG Potus just said…”That’s it”…and walked away.
The ChiComs stand to lose billions when Maduro falls.
They are not happy about our support of the people and the new Venezuelan President.
I didn’t like Kim’s attitude this time…it was different from the getgo.
Kind of smug, like he was in the catbird seat.
I didn’t want to say anything, was hoping for the best.
But something was ‘off’ about his attitude this time.
Yep – KJU has a dark side. Obviously, he and his handlers are not quite converted/convinced to remake him into a benevolent/benign leader of his country.
Interesting theory. This makes sense, because that is the kind of shit tactic that ChiComs will do. But they probably got SOMEBODY ELSE to ask Kim – send it through a third party. Maybe Maduro.
Win/Win for the ChiComs. Trump relieves China, or the ChiComs suck Kim back into their grasp. Kim plays the young chump.
Why else would PTrump bring up “Venezuela” in the first few sentences of this presser?
I think he’s still steaming about it.
Kim and the ChiComs thought that PTrump was so ‘desperate’ for a win in these talks…that they could get whatever they wanted.
Wrong!
I don’t know – I don’t think the Chi are that foolish. I think they have a plan.
Well they are getting desperate.
And desperate people do foolish things.
Chairman Xi will ‘lose face’ bigtime, when Maduro finally falls.
And Maduro *will* fall.
Today, Maduro was confiscating Gold from the banks there, in a desperate move to get as much as he can…while he still can.
It was widely condemned as an “illegal act”.
My guess – pay for his Russian contractors to evacuate him if it all goes south.
ChiComs will take a way bigger hit than Russia on Venezuela, I’m thinking.
Putin already took what he could get, from VZ.
He’s a realist.
He sees what is coming.
Putin probably feels like if he stays out of it…and doesn’t try to bolster Maduro…that he can come back later and do a deal with the new President.
ChiComs are obsessed with the idea of world domination.
I hope they get dispossessed of that notion toot suite.
Early reports of NK willing to dismantle plutonium plants and the like, but not give up nukes didn’t seem like a winning strategy.
– However, willingness to give up those facilities was a huge step forward and one to build on. Pompeo will do just that.
ChiComs surely could make denuclearizing the Peninsula work, and ensured it wouldn’t. IF Kim played the Venezuela card, major ChiCom blunder.
– President Trump won’t hold it against Kim, but will against ChiComs.
No deal by NK, in ChiCom minds is leverage for ChiCom.
– ChiCom did not win anything with President Trump.
ChiCom does fancy and plan on world domination.
– IMHO, will never happen.
Don’t believe Kim is wedded to his nukes. Nukes are a security blanket of sorts. Security can be assured through peace and investments. NK Generals almost assuredly against losing the nukes.
– Kim will reign them in…bribe the hell out of them. Maybe have a couple cease being players. An airplane crashes, car accidents, training accident… Nothing gruesome to evoke bad press.
SK and Japan, if they have not already committed to do so, they must have massive formal investment and aid ready for NK. Timed with NK being fully onboard denuclearize agreement signing. Absolute security for Kim and NK from retribution over past crimes against humanity. The latter far better than NK with nukes they can obliterate cities…Seoul, Tokyo, Seattle…
– In addition to President Trump updating Moon and Abe on the Summit, massive investment, aid and security assurances will be reinforced and pursued.
– Moon will be more active and engaging with NK.
Trade talks with ChiComs at some point will arrive at the biggies such as forced technology transfers, penalties for ChiCom cheating in the future. ChiCom will not willingly comply. Not enough ChiCom pain, yet. IF Xi arrives in Mar Lago late March, Xi will either agree or President Trump will walk away.
– Having walked away in Hanoi, Xi knows President Trump WILL walk away from a bad deal.
– So ChiComs know, President Trump will walk away. And ChiComs know massive tariffs delayed, will become effective immediately.
Ending the Korean War, will, I think become part of Peninsula denuclearization.
Perhaps not publicly, NK and SK reunification path will be agreed to by SK, NK and US. Not ChiComs as they don’t see reunification in their interest.
Don’t personally see this as a set back. Rather a step in the right direction. Absolute goodness comes from denuclearization. Kim knows this. As does Moon, Abe and President Trump. ChiComs are conflicted with insecurities and control freaks.
Sanctions hurt NK more than they hurt us. How long can they keep going, it’s been over a year now. Yes, China and others are cheating some, but Kim has a long train ride home!! I see no new Airplane in his immediate future.
Kim overplayed his hand…bigtime.
He must not have read PTrump’s book, ‘Art of the Deal’.
Because walking-away is one of the things that PDJT said that you always have to be ready to do!
ChiComs probably fed him bad intel through some general.
Young, arrogant, and foolish. Took bad advice from someone!
So Kim offersed to give up a few nuclear locations, and when we asked for the uranium locations too, he seemed surprised that we knew about them. HaHa!
PT – Kim felt bad about Otto. Wasn’t aware til after the fact. Prisons are rough, big country, a lot of people, lower level people did something bad to him without Kim knowing. Kim had nothing to gain by harming Otto.
I think our President was ‘making nice’ by saying that about Kim.
Our VSG doesn’t want to slam any doors.
I think he is making it clear that the door is still open, to come to an agreement.
Yup. He’ll give this guy some outs.
President knows the ‘dance’ He has been doing deals since before Kim was born… AND he holds the winning hand!
Felice & SD has kept us up to date on the economic winning hand but there is a lot more.
I am quite sure President Trump has the intel on all the Congressmice and SenateRats that have been taking BRIBES from foreign governments. (President Trump + AG Session => One Year FISA warrants WITHOUT courts knowing!)
Awan Brothers….
El Chapo….
DiFi’s Chinese Spy….
Piglosi and the Drug Cartel — that is why he wanted HER as House Majority Leader
Californicate’s Reps and Senators and Human Trafficking…
Wiener’s Laptop…
As Q said, things are going to start getting ‘interesting’
The DemonRats really blew it with the state INFANTICIDE laws. That is shocking a whole passel of people into waking up. The news of ElChapo bribing AMERICAN Politians + the DemonRats denial of problems on the border is raising a few eyebrows too.
AG Sessions just spent the last two yeasr arresting a YUGE number of MS 13 thugs (Think drugs) and child Sex Traffickers & Porn rings. Not to mention medical fraud practicioners.
Lighter sentences ===> INFORMATION and you work your way through the webs. ALL of it is connected with a lot going back to the Politicians & Clintons & CHINA!
Alas, Butterfly out 🦋🦋😴😴💤💤🦋🦋
Good night!!! 😎
https://twitter.com/DBloom451/status/1101026924141445122
This will put POTUS in a stronger position come Mar-o-lago. China’s turn next. I bet there sweating this now.
YES!!!
I think the Chinese used this summit to see how far they could push President Trump to have their cake (good trade terms) and eat it too (keep control of NK). When Kim said he wouldn’t be there if he didn’t intend to discuss denuclearization, the Chicoms essentially pulled Kim from the negotiating stage because he got out over his Chinese-owned-&-operated skis. (Forgot he’s only a puppet).
Trump is trying to lure Kim away from Chicoms, but that is going to take more time and more hard squeezes on China. It is complicated business!
We need to watch Lighthizer and whether the trade tariffs that were just postponed get reinstated, regardless of the status of the (irrelevant) MOU. I don’t think President Trump is going to make nice at the trade table after Chicoms just squelched Kim in the midst of the summit.
Fascinating geopolitics. We can not forget that whether it is NK, Middle East, Africa or South America, the enemy behind the curtain is China (and to some extent Russia).
President Trump knows, learns, adapts, and finds a way. We owe him our vocal support and patience.
That dawned on me, too, after I got done being disappointed by the end of the summit.
Oh good buddy Xi! Let’s talk!
Yes POTUS has been in the driver’s seat from the beginning on this. He isn’t doing this for “muh legacy” unlike a certain other individual.
Naturally the media will spin this to some BS about losing credibility, how do you regain the face you lost, pressure is on for POTUS to deliver, questioning whether this is going to get across the line, what the impact will be to his legacy, blah blah blah. They all talk like traitors.
President Trump’s bottom line is spot on….make a good deal, not a bad deal.
Pressure is on ChiComs and NK.
President Trump has the winning hand.
President Trump will prevail with NK and China.
No doubt in my mind Kim did NOT know about Otto’s condition until it was too late.
Communist Fake News flubs it again:
Yeah, like I said earlier…the MindControlMedia were all tripping over themselves to claim that “Trump failed” to make a deal.
They are all vile, slimy skuzoids!
The way I see it, Pres Trump succeeded in recognizing a Bad Deal and did the only thing he *could* do…he walked away from it!
REMEMBER the GOAL IS CHINA!!!
http://www.xxlmag.com/files/2015/11/Trump-Drake1.jpg
President Xi is going to get his ass handed to him! The fact our President was willing to walk away shows that he isn’t going to settle.
https://twitter.com/baba9773/status/1101034685407342593?s=21
Gheez, fell asleep and just woke up.
China is screwed!!!!!!!
Seems like that to me, too.
Fle…I don’t think China is allowing the true story to come out, of how bad it is getting there.
I mean, as bad as the stories are, that they are allowing us to know about…I think that tells us that things are really much worse.
I agree, Wheatie.
Their stock market is down 40%, manufacturing contracted for the THIRD straight month, and they just borrowed 5% of GDP in ONE month.
I also recall that economist (now silenced) who, a couple months ago, put their REAL growth number at ~2%, when the gov’t was claiming 6-7%.
I bet even the manufacturing number is understated, in terms of how severe the contraction is.
And new US tariffs can happen at any time … which will be crippling economically. Lies won’t help!
Thanks, EmStar.
Yeah, it’s not like communists to ever admit how bad things really are.
The Soviets in Russia tried to hide how bad things were…right up until end.
Maduro in Venezuela is doing the same.
Socialism, communism … to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to.
Way too many psychopaths / sociopaths in power!
I agree, Felice. This really sends a LOUD message to Xi.
Yes, just like the Bombing in Syria while Xi is having desert at Mar-o-lago. President Trump just lobbed another bomb into Xi’s lap with 25% sanctions attached. 🤣
The Fifth Column Urinalists are not helping their Masters. People KNOW they are Fake News. All they are actually doing is providing cover for President Trump.
We’ll see. I don’t think it’s as cut and dried like that. Some other issues in play. NK is going to take more time.
Personally thinks PDJT knows he can let this play out as long as it takes. He’s in the cat bird seat. If this needs to go all the way back to aircraft carriers off the coast so be it. He can be magnanimous when he’s secured a real peace. If there is no peace so be it. Costs us nothing, them everything. China right now is the stumbling block and they better get their act into gear.
Meanwhile the Dems are the ones that have put these negotiations into peril. Their self serving pursuit of power has created a divide that any adversary would like to take advantage of.
Remember the phrase, “They never thought she would lose”?
Well, they never thought Trump would walk away.
OMG – China is having a cow. Here come the tariffs. Balls to the wall. Let’s go.
“… they never thought Trump would walk away.”
I think the whole Cohen Dog & Pony Show was all about putting pressure on President Trump so he would be ‘eager for a win’ ANY ‘Win’ That is part of why the Fifth Column Urinalists were shouting Cohen questions.
The LAST thing TPTB expected was for President Trump to shutdown the Urinalists and walk away from the negotiating table. (That is why Little Kim was wearing that s…t-eating grin, he was told he couldn’t lose.).
They are SO used to manipulating the media they thought President Trump would ALSO be media driven….🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Chinese policy, for years has been to shuffle nukes to NoKo to keep USA South Korea Japan, at bay and provide China with a buffer against the west.
THEN – NoKo helps Iran with nukes to keep the USA tied down in the Middle East, wasting blood and treasure.
Meanwhile, the Chicoms raid natural resources in Africa and take over the world via ECON rather than shooting bullets.
China has been effective, true, and rolled the USA and prior admins.
President Trump has been the only challenge to face them. By rolling ALL of the problems into one, Venez, NoKo, South Ko, Japan, and Middle East into one, PLUS the economic pressure on China has brought them to the table.
China is bleeding.
Their economy is now contracting.
Chairman Xi looks like a fool.
Notice that A2 has no longer been commenting OT. He has been replaced by Cripto, who, though he provided decent info, gives me uneasy vibs.
“gives me uneasy vib[e]s”
His off-the-charts conceit – and his penchant for immediate and unrestrained vilification of those who disagreed with him – sealed the deal for me.
It’s yet another example of someone with an extremely high IQ (he purportedly speaks five languages), but without a commensurate level of EQ (self-knowledge).
It’s a very dangerous combination. Anytime someone challenges their expertise (their self-“identity”), the vitriol comes gushing out. It ain’t an intellectual problem – it’s a psychological problem.
And most often, it’s a problem they refuse to recognize, despite substantial evidence / feedback provided to them that a problem does, in fact, exist.
I steer clear of people like this …
I changed nasty vibes to uneasy since I did not have concrete prove to give.
However I would not be suprised to find he is actually a Chinese college educated here in the USA and NOT an American.
That thought had occurred to me as well.
What I find unnerving, in this scenario, is his MASTERY of the English (American) language. Broad, detailed understanding of the lexicon, of grammar, of syntax … and of idioms only someone immersed for MANY years here would be comfortable using.
And his usage was ACCURATE. I suspect he scored better on the SAT-Verbal than I (I did quite well).
Pathologically against Russia, too – which is unusual, and 100% consonant with the leftie-brigade.
I always wondered HOW he could post the opinions he was able to from Shyna, with all the censorship in place and ACTIVE there.
Multiple yellow flags …
Remember that Chinese Nationals work here in the USA under H1b visas so he could easily have been here for years or even born of Chinese Nationals who worked here. However I doubt his loyalty is to the USA.
Poly-linguistic people often give me bad vibes. I don’t have a ton of respect for people who think they are hot for speaking Spanish, Italian and Portuguese. They’re called Romance languages for a reason.
There’s a lot of arrogance that comes with that kind of knowledge, and frankly a lot of power. Spiritual attack too. But some people measure their knowledge by the number of languages they speak and their connectedness to people. That is far from real knowledge and real wisdom. Linguistic Intelligence != IQ. Domain knowledge with any depth takes time to develop – each is really a language all its own, with its own vocabulary and grammar. They have a strong surface knowledge but no depth.
Funny too is for all their “language” expertise they often haven’t even done a casual study of linguistics!
JoeM#StormisUponUs:
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1101027637294579712
Optically, it is crucial for the US to show we are doing our due diligence and not just bending to the will of Kim. Trump team proved they will accept nothing less than TOTAL denuclearization, and will not give up sanctions lightly. (Anons know North Korea is fully resolved).
Trump and Chairman Kim are playing out a strategy that makes neither side look weak. Americans must see a tough negotiator who doesn’t let a foreign dictator push him around and North Koreans who worship Kim must see a leader who will not bow to Trump. The nukes are already gone.
Darn! someone please teach me how to grab the tweet so it posts as an image. Please?
Oh…it worked from the link. Yay, team!
Emeraldstar says of China:
“…Their stock market is down 40%, manufacturing contracted for the THIRD straight month, and they just borrowed 5% of GDP in ONE month….”
Do not forget that we are looking at right now is US manufacturing STOCK PILING non-perishables in anticipation of the 25% tariffs…. Meanwhile US start-ups are gearing up to replace Chinese factories and corporations are also looking to India as alternate sourcing for Chinese manufactured goods. 🤣
Once those tariffs hit the Chinese economy will REALLY NOSE DIVE!
The Chinese were hoping their puppets in Congress would takeout President Trump, but I do not think that is going to happen no matter how much Cohen lies. If there actually was a ‘There there’ The American Commies would already have taken President Trump out.
Right now President Trump is toying with his prey while Americans wake up to reality.
Slamming China w/ 25% tariffs can’t happen soon enough for me! They’ve demonstrated themselves to be bad actors. Their negotiations may be good faith but the level of damage done for 30+ years can’t be undone by a couple of months of talking about it. Fundamental systemic reforms are required – hard medicine that China has not demonstrated that it is willing to actually take and not just talk about.
China thinks LOOOOooooong term. President Trump is here, for at best 8 years. they know this. I think they hope to out wait him and NOT do a trade deal at all. Meanwhile they will do as much as they can to make sure President Trump does not win in 2020.
They can think long term but they better not underestimate the Eagle’s speed and power to strike. Their economy was strong and it gave them hubris – they didn’t realize how weak they are. I don’t want any delays on the tariffs. This last break for a few months was too long. I know, Trump has an endgame. But the dragon’s comeuppance is overdue.
Yes and that economy of theirs was built after a long time…or at least as far back as when they woke to the fact that they needed to embrace economic capitalism, cheating a lot to get there and with out the democracy thing. That’s the long time they should be looking at.
Their “long term” isn’t sustainable. It’s pretty hilarious actually. They don’t have an independent and diverse economy, which is totally unsustainable. Sucking wealth from the U.S. is NOT a “long term” strategy. Communism is certainly not a “long term” win. Talk about a paper tiger.