Dear MAGA: 20190613 Open Topic

This THINKING ABOUT THINGS ON THURSDAY THE THIRTEENTH open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!

And it would be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Now – let’s talk about a video.

A video featuring a guy I know very little about, named David Icke.

I don’t know who this guy is. I know almost nothing about him. But I do know this.

After I watched this, I UNDERSTOOD why Silicon Valley is censoring us and why they DO NOT CARE AT ALL WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IT.

So NOW – please watch this. It’s just 10 minutes.

Here is a back-up link to Icke’s own site:

https://www.davidicke.com/article/539582/will-done-2030-featuring-david-icke


What do you think about this?

To me, the most important point is this:

I believe these Silicon Valley people who are censoring us see the world in a completely different way than we do. I believe they no longer actually care what we think.

I am starting to think that they are actually BLIND to many kinds of thought. They have LOST DISCERNMENT.

Their BRAINS have not resisted some process that WE HAVE. Just like Icke describes.

I am reminded of an episode of the New Outer Limits called “Stream of Consciousness”:

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/the-outer-limits-1995/episodes/78006

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_Consciousness_(The_Outer_Limits)

The opening and closing narrations are worth reading.


We quantify our world in order to learn. We break it down into facts, numbers, information. But how far dare we go before we destroy its mystery?


We make tools to extend our abilities, to further our reach, and fulfill our aspirations. But we must never let them define us. For if there is no difference between tool and maker, then who will be left to build the world?


I don’t know the answers to these questions. Nor do I know if, when, or how these questions will be answered. However, I believe that WE have questions that THEY are not even willing to admit are valid questions, much less answer.

Most importantly, I believe that our technological elite lack fundamental moral principles needed to safely do what they are doing. Their moral blind spots are dangerous. The technology they create – with baked-in error – will become dangerous – to itself and everything else.

That’s OK. WE have the Base Designer to fall back on. And we have a FIXER in the White House, too. With God, all FIXES are possible!

W


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Rodney Short

Hell fuckin no they aint gonna hook me up, not alive anyhow.

bakocarl

phoenixRising May 29, 2019 at 10:44
Comment in the Bin ???????????????
The Spam Bin
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/bad/prisoner-smiley-emoticon.gif
You’ve done your homework, gathered your facts,
With analysis made a conclusion;
Checked spelling, and grammar, and paragraphs.
It’s done. It’s clear. There’ll be no confusion.
You’ve followed the rules that Wheatie put down:
You’ve been very nice and haven’t thrown food.
You’re not running – nothing sharp in the hands,
And you brought snacks for the whole QTree brood.
It’s a work to be proud of, one of the best.
You type it all up, then paste it all in.
You wait forever, but it doesn’t appear.
Then you know you’re caught. You’re in the Spam Bin.
Why would this happen to you at this time?
You pound your keyboard and scream and shout.
You were careful, but not enough, ‘cause
The Spam Bin’ll getcha if you don’t watch out!
You beg for help to get out of this trap,
But there’s no response. Where’s everyone at?
You wait and wait but there’s no reply.
Your high expectations suddenly fall flat.
Wheatie or Wolfie would help, you know,
Probably others, but you don’t know who.
Until one of them wakes up from their nap,
You’ll just learn patience – it’s all you can do.
Finally, they’re back and with some kind words
You’re released from that most perilous place
Where posters go that don’t follow the rules
To stay and suffer in utter disgrace.
So heed this warning, posters everywhere,
There are rules here that you shouldn’t flout.
But be advised, even though you’re careful,
The Spam Bin’ll getcha if you don’t watch out!

ladypenquin

Carl, you aren’t just a talented poet, insightful and astute, you’re also simply – Funny! 🙂 ❤

Linda

Whoa! I’m going to wait until tomorrow to watch the vids. Too heavy right before bed.
Every time I click on the link to sign the birthday card, I get an “ACCESS DENIED” screen. Anyone else?

Linda

No. I get the same access forbidden message.

pgroup

Every time I see one of those I think of ‘you’re not worthy’. But of course – it’s a big club and I ain’t in it.
And then I go find something worthy of my time.

cthulhu

I watched the video and was not impressed. It conflates mass surveillance with AI, grants AI superpowers that it doesnt have while ignoring the very frightening implications of AI; associates AI with the mutability of online facts, and so on. It’s scaremongering about faraway implications while smoothtalking about clear and present dangers.

TheseTruths

I think it does a good job of making the point about people being preconditioned to accept ever increasing roles of technology and robotics in their lives.
I steer clear of “smart” home appliances that are connected to the internet. I hope technology won’t affect medical care one day, where you have to be “connected” in a way that you don’t want in order to get care.
I would be interested if you woud elaborate on what you call “the very frightening implications of AI” and the “clear and present dangers.”

Gail Combs

“…. I hope technology won’t affect medical care one day, where you have to be “connected” in a way that you don’t want in order to get care…..”
I am SURE that was the final goal of Obummercare. Get Microchipped or NO HEALTHCARE. (see my comments below)

wheatietoo

I thought it was pretty good, Coothie.
He said things that need to be said…about people’s addiction to the internet, and thus, their addiction to the devices that keep them linked to the internet.
And the year 2030 is not that “faraway”.
It’s only ten years.
He said it would be done “by 2030″…which means that it is already underway.
I first noticed people getting ‘addicted’ to the internet back in the 90’s.
My daughter called it “cyber crack” — the way that people would stay on their computers for hours and hours and orient their lives around being online.
And that was before ‘smart phones’ and hand-held devices.
Now, we have people so addicted that they even take their smart phones with them when they go to the bathroom.

cthulhu

Those were good points, but he kept conflating them with AI and other things to yield a scrambled outlook. He gets the threat, but misidentifies the source.

Coldeadhands

“Cyber Crack” …your daughter nailed it!

singingsoul1

cthulhu you sound like my husband who worked with technology most his adult life and still is involved.

NebraskaFilly

IMO, this guy is a nutjob.

cthulhu

An example of the threat of AI…..
In Scotland, there is a tradition of “first-footing”, where a tall dark-haired person should be the first person to set foot in a house on New Years’ Day in order to ensure good luck throughout the coming year. AI would mine the data points of all people to visit homes in the early hours of New Years’ and tell you that you must have a lesbian of African descent with straight hair and a career in nuclear physics set foot in the house no later than 12:17.

wheatietoo

“I don’t know who this guy is. I know almost nothing about him.”
__________
David Icke has been around for a long time.
I’m familiar with him because I have watched shows about UFOs and such.
He has been branded a ‘conspiracy theorist’…and so a lot of people dismiss what he has to say, on that basis.
We are living in a time when things that were branded as ‘conspiracy theories’ are being proven to be true, though.
As our search for other planets that are similar to Earth is expanded…
We are learning just how rare and unique our planet is, in the universe.
More than anything…this is what makes me think it is plausible that we have been visited by beings from other worlds.
Our little planet is like a grocery store.
We have an abundance of liquid H2O and a wide variety of vegetation.
In addition to that…we have mineral deposits that are easily accessible.
So it is not hard to imagine that space travelers would take an interest in Earth.
It’s all about the Natural Resources.
This is true for our own planet…and I think it is true for the universe, as well.

pgroup

Well, it’s obvious that space travelers have been here.
I bet they mated with humans which is how we got AOC.

singingsoul1

pgroup
“Well, it’s obvious that space travelers have been here.
I bet they mated with humans which is how we got AOC.”
_________________________________________
I am having my first cup of coffee and almost cooked reading your post 🙂

singingsoul1

Correction : choket

pgroup

WP is eating me … again.

wheatietoo

I can see you just fine, Pgroup.
🤨👀😏
Did you have a comment go :::poof:::…?

Coldeadhands

My response to your last post jumped to the bottom of the page. WP is acting odd.

Coldeadhands

Lots of activity… maybe not.

wheatietoo

Oh, I think you’re on the right track, Wolf…and here’s why:
Why would they bother to come here?
If you start with this Question, then the answers are different from the warm-&-fuzzy ideas that have been pushed on us, about benevolent ETs who mean us no harm.
There is probably a wide variety of ETs out there.
And the ones who have achieved a technology level that allows them to travel space…are going out ‘in search of’…something.
Like I said…this planet is a grocery store.
Compared to all the frozen rock type planets and the toxic gaseous ones or the burning volcanic ones…Earth is an oasis.
Until we created telescopes that let us see further out into space…we didn’t know how rare our little planet is, in the scope of things.
So we now are getting an idea of Why they would come here.
The next Question is…Why haven’t they taken over our planet already, if conquest is their intent?
Well, maybe that conquest is ‘in progress’…
Maybe this AI stuff is a form of tera-forming and the ETs have been seeding us with this technology in order to incorporate us into their ‘collective’?
If you look back over the history of our planet…and how long it has usually taken for technology to develop…then the past 5 decades have really been an ‘explosion’ of fast-moving technological development.
We may have been visited by space travelers who were just taking a ‘pit stop’ to gather something they needed…and then they went on their way.
But we may also have been visited by ETs who see this planet as one that they want to colonize and control.

wheatietoo

Heheh.
Yeah…posting a video of David Ickes pretty much opens up a discussion about ‘conspiracy theories’.
He’s been like a Grand Marshall of conspiracy theories…for a long time.
😜😄
But hey…some of those theories might be true!
We are living in Interesting Times, remember.

wheatietoo

‘Revenge of the Nerds’…has morphed into The Arrogance of the Nerd Elitists.
They have *become* that which they used to rail against…and even worse!

Gail Combs

“But we may also have been visited by ETs who see this planet as one that they want to colonize and control.”
I am thinking along the lines of the Congo and King Leopold II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocities_in_the_Congo_Free_State
Rosa Koire’s discription of The Post Sustainable Future certainly sounds like slave colonies. Note that MOST of the land mass of the USA is OFF LIMITS to humans.
The Rewilding Project
THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
“Step by step, piece by piece, the Wildlands Project is coming to fruition. The Project, foundational to the U.N.Biodiversity Treaty which was never ratified by the U.S. Senate, calls for approximately 50 percent of the United States to be set aside as “wildlands”, where no human can enter. Much has been accomplished over the past 10 years toward that goal, and the pace is stepping up, with the help of the federal agencies under Clinton/Gore….”
LOTS more info and links at that site.
http://stewardsofthesequoia.org/images/WildlandsMapCA&NV.jpg
http://netctr.com/images/us-wild_only.jpg

wheatietoo

That’s right, Gail.
And Bush2 didn’t do anything to roll back any of that.
Then, when Hussein got in the WH…he continued on with the program.
The Left went batshit crazy when Sec Zinke started opening up some of those lands to humans again.
They went after him with their long knives.
They made up crap to frame him…and had their deep state operatives go after him with ‘investigations’ to make him seem guilty.
I am still sick about how that all happened.
But Zinke didn’t have the money to hire teams of attorneys to fight back.
😔😣

Coldeadhands

Your context for what was done to Zinke should make us bristle.

GA/FL

THE UN HAS NO BUSINESS IN OUR BUSINESS!!!
The UN is an enemy to civilization, and Western civilization in particular, as long as they are an Islamist and South African white genocide apologist organization.

GA/FL

UN ignores Asia/China’s pollution, Islam’s rapes/human trafficking….and these countries human rights abuses – Neck, UN ‘peacekeeping troops’ are known for rapes and abuse.

Sadie Slays

Take it a step farther and start questioning how much we’re told about space is even real. For example, did you know that most astronomy pictures are actually “artistic illustrations”? Start reading the photo credits of anything space-related from now on. You’ll be shocked at how few actual unaltered photos of space exist. Personally, I suspect space is something very different than what we’re told. Hollywood, celebrity scientists, and the entire concept of extraterrestrials are all used to sell the lie.
Extraterrestrials, by the way, are the forerunner of what “climate change” is now–an excuse to handwave away anything inconvenient to the narrative. Better to have people believing UFOs are extraterrestrial in origin and not some expensive black ops military project. Better to have people believing that mystery encounters involving anal probes are really “alien abductions” and not government-sanctioned MKULTRA experiments. Better to have people chasing theories about “ancient aliens” than chasing theories about advanced human civilizations than came before us. And so on.

singingsoul1

This is my take who has a fraction of education than anyone else here . Concerning aliens from ,
I believe that they if they exist do not think as we do therefore our human ideas do not apply to them.
Do I believe there are living organisms beside us in space yes. Do they have our form no. Could they mate with us likely not. Would they be after our minerals ? I doubt it. Their needs would differ from ours I assume.
I see everything in my minds eye as a live organism.
This Ick guy or whatever his name is has a very creative mind. What are his credentials?
Maybe I am not seeing what others see.
All things are possible .

NebraskaFilly

He is WAY out there and believes there are reptilians among us!

Coldeadhands

David Icke has been a recurring guest on George Noory’s Coast to Coast AM for those who find themselves awake in the middle of the night. That’s where I became familiar with him.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We have an abundance of liquid H2O and a wide variety of vegetation.
In addition to that…we have mineral deposits that are easily accessible.
So it is not hard to imagine that space travelers would take an interest in Earth.
It’s all about the Natural Resources.

Water is *extremely* common in the universe. It’s a compound of hydrogen (73.9 percent of the normal matter in the universe is hydrogen) and oxygen, the third most common element in the universe (one part in a hundred by mass). Go to any outer planet, and the moons (and smaller bodies) are loaded with it. Pretty much, if hydrogen “out there” is going to form a compound than H2, it will most likely be with either carbon (0.46 percent of the universe) or oxygen.
It won’t be *liquid* water, but melting ice is a LOT easier (apply heat) than travelling to another star looking for liquid water (apply tech we don’t have yet).
“Minerals” covers a wide variety of things, of course, anything from graphite to–actually ice can be a mineral under certain circumstances. Some minerals will only form on planets, and it’s becoming clear now that some minerals probably won’t form except on a living planet–life itself affects what minerals will form. But for everything else…a spacefaring civilization would be better off just mining asteroids. In fact, if WE ever start mining asteroids, the prices of a lot of metals will drop. Gold, for example, is .3 parts per million out there, but .004 parts per million in the earth’s crust. Platinum is 1.8 parts per million out there (six times as common as gold!) yet is 0.005 parts per million in the earth’s crust. Basically, our gold and platinum (and other “precious metals” mostly went down into the earth’s core when earth formed. Mining metallic asteroids short circuits this circumstance, and there’s also enough iron in them to totally blow away our reserves.
So some minerals, at least, aren’t worth coming here for if you’re already a spacefaring civilization.
What is probably TRULY rare here is multi-cellular life. But by definition, the spacefarers would have that on their homeworld too. Furthermore, ours might not be of any use to them! The chemical constituents could be quite different; our food would be as toxic to them as tar is to us. Of course, food isn’t the only use to which animals and plants can be put.
It will be interesting if we ever make overt contact, to find out what motivates them…certainly not water (findable anywhere) despite bad Hollywood TV series’ premises. But what would be worth the energy cost of travelling to other stars (a HUGE energy cost!).

pgroup

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pgroup

Thank you, o Lord WordPress, for granting me dispensation to post my comments.

Mandy

Today’s opener reminded me of Patriarch Kirill’s interview (I think he gives one of these in depth, sit down interviews every year at the start of the new year but don’t quote me on that). This excerpt is right at 5 minutes long – and it’s on the topic of where the ‘technology’ is leading.
Vesti News piece, you’ll have to read the captioning on the video (unless you understand Russian).

Gail Combs

Both David Rockefeller and Karl Marx appeal to the EGOS of the intellectual elite/man of science by putting them ABOVE the Unwashed Masses, the bourgeoisie, the SMELLY Deplorable Middle Class who do not know their place.
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years……It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.” ― David Rockefeller
Notice that Rockefeller is PROMISING the intellectual elite RULERSHIP of the world. How can they resist?
Marx promises to place them back on a Pedestal so the Great Unwashed will “honor and look up to [them] with reverent awe.”

“The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his ‘natural superiors,’ and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, callous ‘cash payment.’ It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom—Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.
The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers.
― Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto

And these ‘Useful Idiots’ DO NOT take the lessons of history to heart and actually BELIEVE these Pychopaths!
Revelations from the Russian Archives: ATTACKS ON INTELLIGENTSIA

grandmaintexas

Karl Marx was full of envy. He played on the envy of those who have, against those who have a little less (rich versus middle class).
Standard of living. I think Marx hated that the middle class had a standard of living that differed only in degree from the rich elites.
For instance, I have a very wealthy sibling who lives in a house worth millions with a swimming pool, whose kids go to elite schools, etc.
Meanwhile, I live in a house worth magnitudes less, but approximate in size and with a swimming pool (the above ground kind 😊).
My kids attended local schools or joined the military. But, our standard of living is about the same. It is simply a matter of degree.
Some elites hate that their “inferiors” are able to live in much the same way as they. The odious, indeed deeply sinful nature of envy has caused much tragedy in this world.

Coldeadhands

Age and death are the great equalizers. Those great (and lesser) estates become a liability as people age and of course “you can’t take it with you.”

grandmaintexas

That and guns. 😄

Coldeadhands

😁

Gail Combs

Kalbo said on June 12, 2019 at 18:08

Last Friday (I think it was), Bongino had a great podcast. Title something like, this should scare the hell out of everyone.
Bongino talked about the FISA wire taps, two hop… Then, Bongino highlighted something either I forgot, never knew, or simply didn’t catch the significance of.
But first. We all know, I think, NSA does in fact capture all communications and stores the data.
The “ah ha” moment Bongino emphasized was, FISA captures current communications, going forward communications AND also five years retroactive. FIVE years retroactive. FIVE years going back. Huge!
Now, Bongino did not discuss this, my wishful thinking… IF there is a FISA these days on any of the bad actors such as Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Strokz, Paige, LL, Holder, hildabeast, hussein…then pandora’s box is blown wide on on their criminal behavior.
Just as hildabeast was supposed to win, all of these rat bastards NEVER, EVER thought their criminal behavior would be exposed.

Do not forget that the President PLUS the Attorney General can open a FISA WITHOUT going through the courts. LINK It only take those two people. I think this is one of the reasons AG Sessions and President Trump were ‘shown’ as enemies. To mislead the traitors in our government and in the DemonRat Party.

redlegleader68

Thinking about your comment, I’m pretty sure that right about now we NEED a Q drop … just sayin’… 😉

ladypenquin

I’m looking forward to the vote fraud being exposed – the conspiracy to commit voter fraud, and how they did it. This information must be in there somewhere – otherwise the Dems wouldn’t have been so sure they would win. The MSM – commie conspirators that they are – would have been in on it. It’s why the “polls” were able to be so heavily in favor of Hillary. IMO, it wasn’t just psyops for voter suppression against us – they believed they had the mechanisms in place to steal enough votes to steal states’ electoral votes.
It’s why I’ve always said, it’s not how much we won by, it’s more how close we came to losing. The Dems were working on making sure the Purple states came in for them, along with taking Florida and Ohio. They truly forgot the working men and women in the Blue states.
BTW, the closeness of the Florida races in 2018 indicate how strong their fraud machine is…

grandmaintexas

I think they were counting on fake polls to depress the working peoples’ votes. The other stuff they had a lock on.

singingsoul1

Gail Combs
“But first. We all know, I think, NSA does in fact capture all communications and stores the data.
The “ah ha” moment Bongino emphasized was, FISA captures current communications, going forward communications AND also five years retroactive. FIVE years retroactive. FIVE years going back. Huge!”
_____________________________________________________________________-
If they keep all communications from 5 years ago that explains much to run out the clock.
We are now in the third year and fourth year when Hillary resigned her position?
Is it possible to hang on to information about the bad guys when the clock ticks or is the information gathered automatically deleted ?
I am seeing a great effort to drag things out as long as possible what bad guys did.
Everyone else would have been locked up a long time ago.

Gail Combs

Remember that sealed indictments STOP THE CLOCK and the documentation would ALREADY be in the hands of the court/Grand Jury so it would not be destroyed.

Covadonga

Now I know why they are so offended by AR-15s.

Gail Combs

An Article for your late night reading enjoyment:
Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population
by Paul Joseph Watson, Jan 29, 2007

Hollywood director Russo goes in-depth for first time on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, including his prediction of 9/11 and the war on terror hoax, the Rockefeller’s creation of women’s lib, and the elite’s ultimate plan for world population reduction and a microchipped society…

A decade later much of this is true including the ability to microchip people and hospital trials used for tracking patients.

Gail Combs

MicroChip removal.  hmmmmm.  Might make a good sideline job in the free state (wherever that may be).  X-ray to locate, a little betadine and a pen knife….   Re-implant them in park squirrels.  Yea that’ll work.
From My Old Notes — Articles on Microchipping
*http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/hardware/2008/0805080903.asp?S=RFID%20and%20Barcodes&A=RFI&O=google
*http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=746ad6ab734b9576866d597297b7e843&action=search2
*http://www.karmayog.org/publicdistributionsystem/publicdistributionsystem_14916.htm
*http://www.thehindu.com/2008/09/10/stories/2008091054980600.htm
In 2004, The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has approved the first RFID chip that can be implanted in humans. http://www.medicineandbiotech.com/biotech.html
Technology News
Insurers to Test Implantable Microchip
By THERESA AGOVINO (AP Business Writer)
From Associated Press
July 14, 2006 4:34 PM EDT

NEW YORK – In a new test program, Horizon Blue Cross and Blue Shield of New Jersey plans to implant patients suffering from chronic diseases with a microchip that will give emergency room staff access to their medical information and help avoid costly or serious medical errors, the insurer said on Friday.
Horizon plans to announce on Monday that it is teaming up with Hackensack University Medical Center in a pilot program where 280 patients regularly treated at the hospital will be implanted with a chip containing a code. The chip would allow emergency room personnel to retrieve a patient’s medical record if the individual can’t communicate.
The rice-sized microchip is implanted in a patient’s right arm above the elbow and can be detected using equipment at the hospital.
The hope is that the chips will help doctors avoid medical errors like duplicating medical tests, dangerous drug interactions and bad diagnoses.
Within the next 30 days, Horizon will start sending letters to patients with chronic diseases explaining the new program and inviting them to participate. The program is voluntary and won’t cost the patient any money to participate.
Patients with chronic conditions are the program’s target because they are more likely to have serious medical problems that could leave them unable to communicate when they are at the emergency room, said Dr. Richard Popiel, vice president and chief medical officer at Horizon. For example, diabetics with low blood sugar may become confused or unconscious.
He said Horizon will test the program for two years to see if it warrants expansion.
VeriChip Corp. makes the chips and detection equipment. Hackensack already had the equipment because it was part of VeriChip’s development program.


Horizon: *http://www.HorizonBlue.com
Hackensack: *http://www.humed.com
Verichip: *http:http://www.verichipcorp.com
….
RFID tags in 4-H garden
*http://news.msu.edu/story/17/
training vs teaching
“Nuts N Volts” magazine in another post.  There’s a real interesting column in there called “In The Trenches”
Schoolchildren to be RFID-chipped Japanese authorities decide tracking is best way to protect kids
*http://networks.silicon.com/lans/0,39024663,39122042,00.htm
RFID chips in the news at Silicon.com
*http://www.silicon.com/search/?q=RFID+chip&c=news&ss=&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
RFID in patients
*http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=2487426
“The physician-insurance collaboration, taking place at Hackensack University Medical Center, pairs VeriChip’s RFID-infused microchips with chronically ill patients so that ER physicians can access those patients’ medical record electronically.”

Oct. 27 – Scott Silverman, Chairman and CEO, Applied Digital said, “To put it bluntly the medical application of verichip allows the chip to talk for you when you can’t talkThe chip contains a 16-digit code that can only be accessed by a hand held scanner, that number then connects the ambulance driver or emergency room technician to a database that holds the customer’s medical information.
But it doesn’t stop in the ER.  “The benefits of the technology lie in the application.”
Specifically the medical application, the security application and even the financial application but the company still has a long way to go get the system up and running in the U.S.
“The idea is to get a scanner in every emergency room, in every ambulance, with every law enforcement personnel.”

VeriChip & NJ Health Insurer Begin 2-Year Trial of Implantable RFID
Tuesday, July 18, 2006
*http://www.rfidnews.org/2006/07/18/verichip-nj-health-insurer-begin-2-year-trial-of-implantable-rfid?tag=Human_ID
Articles on human RFID tags:
* http://www.secureidnews.com/tag/Human_ID
RFID in Health care:
*http://www.rfidnews.org/2008/06/13/rfid-making-in-roads-in-health-care
Israel mandates RFID chips in hands
*http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/markc1118-1.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From my old notes on SPYCHIPS
One of the stories cited is
“…Not as common, but increasing in use, are “active” tags, which have internal batteries and can transmit signals, continuously, as far as low-orbiting satellites…”
*http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2004151388_apchippingam\
ericaiii29.html?syndication=rss
Technology is not good or bad, but the criminals who use it are. Be aware of the potential abuses of this technology. before you attach it to your child. This is a watch dog group on spy chips
*http://www.spychips.com/
EXAMPLES OF ABUSE

“..A 2005 patent application by American Express itself describes how RFID-embedded objects carried by shoppers could emit “identification signals” when queried by electronic “consumer trackers.” The system could identify people, record their movements, and send them video ads..
In 2002, Fleishman-Hillard produced another report for the industry that counseled RFID makers to “convey (the) inevitability of technology,” and to develop a plan to “neutralize the opposition,” by adopting friendlier names for radio tags such as “Bar Code II” and “Green Tag.”…”

Wal-Mart and Procter & Gamble conducted a secret RFID trial involving Oklahoma consumers earlier this year, the Chicago Sun Times revealed on Sunday. Customers who purchased P&G’s Lipfinity brand lipstick at the Broken Arrow Wal-Mart store between late March and mid-July unknowingly left the store with live RFID tracking devices embedded in the packaging. Wal-Mart had previously denied any consumer-level RFID testing in the United States….
The Sun Times also reported that a live video camera trained on the shelf allowed Procter & Gamble employees, sometimes hundreds of miles away, to observe the Lipfinity display and consumers interacting with it…
This summer, CASPIAN uncovered an RFID-enabled Gillette “smart shelf” in a Brockton, Massachusetts Wal-Mart and helped disclose Gillette’s scheme to secretly photograph consumers picking up Mach3 razor blades in UK Tesco stores (see *http://www.boycottgillette.com/spychips.html). The group also revealed confidential industry plans to “pacify” consumers and “neutralize opposition” in the hope that consumers will be “apathetic” and “resign themselves to the inevitability” of RFID product tagging
http://www.spychips.com/press-releases/broken-arrow.html

Teagan

Want the whole microchip issue to disappear? Start micro chipping the illegals that are released into the US than never show up for their hearings. First, the “rent a child” chips….just a quick scan at the border to see if they’ve entered previously. Any transactions, such as getting a driving license …quick scan for chips to see about any outstanding warrants. Track welfare payments, etc. Easy peasy.
After we have the millions of illegals chipped, then we can start with the children molesters, etc. once the Liberals see how chips can be used to stop them…poof! It’s gone,

singingsoul1

Teagan I love your post.

thetinfoilhatsociety

Wolf, this is genius. Can we please get a post devoted to THIS???

Gail Combs

Teagan,
That thought, microchipping ILLEGALS had crossed my mind frequently…. I was just worried it would be used as a foot into the door of microchipping CITIZENS.

Coldeadhands

The hue and cry from the open borders gang (to the proposal) will help to shelve this whole issue. No illegals getting chipped… fine. If it’s bad for them then it’s bad for citizens.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It would depend on whether they see the opening and decide…they’d rather microchip us than NOT microchip illegals.
Given that microchipping us would give them enormous power over us, and that’s their end goal (they reason why they let all the illegals in is to burden us and win elections fraudulently), I wouldn’t want to bet it would work out the way you envision.

Coldeadhands

More a posit than an “envision”

Coldeadhands

Brilliant!

Mandy

Yet back when Aaron first spoke about this stuff, people thought he was a kooky ‘conspiracy theorist.’ (Which, it’s alleged by some that our own CIA came up with the term ‘conspiracy theorist’ in order to do the Alinsky technique of “ISOLATE AND RIDICULE YOUR TARGET” to individuals who were getting too close to the truth!)

Gail Combs

Also They ‘Salted’ the field with FAKE ‘conspiracy theorists’ with really wacked out ideas to confuse the issue so the individuals who were getting too close to the truth could be lumped in with the Wack-Jobs. When that did not work the individual got Wacked.

Gail Combs

To go with the Paul Joseph Watson article I linked to.
What did the Rockefellers really want? Another DARK AGES. That of course is the whole goal. A return to feudalism with no middle class, no individual rights, no property rights just dumbed down docile peasants.
All you have to do is look at all the bits and pieces that are already in place. (I keep posting them.)
PEOPLE:
1. DNA testing of all infants.
2. Assignment of social worker to each child born. (Scotland)
3. Drugging of non-compliant children age 7 and up by schools
4. Move to make After-Birth Abortion of children up to 6 years acceptable.
5. Turning schools into brain washing centers instead of centers of learning.
OBAMACARE:
1. Medical care removed for those over 70. Many procedures are now on the do not prescribe list.
2. Medical personnel snooping in your purchases so they can ‘intervene’ in ‘unhealthy’ life styles.
3. New Dietary guidelines stressing sustainable ‘vegetarian practices’ (no red meat) (Red meat is needed for brain development in the fetus and fast growing babes.)
4. Trials for implanted data chips containing medical info.
5. A new international diagnostic manual, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, labels independent thinkers as mentally ill, by calling them conspiracy theorists, deniers… There is even a paper: A CLINICAL ANALYSIS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA
POLICING:
1. Spying and retention of phone calls and e-mails
2. Consolidation and militarization of police/federal bureaus under DHS
3. Emphasis on ‘Homegrown Terrorists’
4. The relabeling of conservatives as extremists. For example presidential candidate Ben Carson or those with Ron Paul, Bob Barr… bumper stickers.
6. The indefinite retention without communication or trial (or evidence?) of those labeled ‘Homegrown Terrorists’
SUSTAINABLE TRANSIT VILLAGES:
1. Removal of up to 50% of our electric grid and replacing it with Smart Meters, Smart Appliances thus removing control of your home environment.
2. Screening of Airports ===> Buses, ships, trains and even passenger cars.
3. GPS in new cars that is integrated into the start system so cars can be shutdown remotely.
4. Push to remove individual travel ability.
5. Consolidation of food growing. (See Cornell and food sheds)
6. Push to remove ability to own private property.
The History link
As I said an unwanted used-up serf is to be denied medical or even killed via the ‘Liverpool Care Pathway’. We are nothing but free-range serfs even if we do not know it. Between taxes and debt we have 60 and 90 percent of our wealth confiscated by the government or banks (same thing) Never forget the 151 hidden taxes on a loaf of bread — Ronald Reagan.
That means NO ONE escapes taxes even if they are beggars or thieves. Medieval serfs got to keep about 60% of what they produced. Are we any more free than they were?
The Fabians in the UK have been offing the over 55 population for a while now. Why is it no matter where you look you find Socialsts/Marxists practice DEMOCIDE: Death by Government whenever they get complete control of a country?
The news stories started out like this:

Nearly 1,200 people have starved to death in NHS hospitals because ‘nurses are too busy to feed patients’
For every patient who dies from malnutrition, four more have dehydration mentioned on their death certificate
… (wwwDOT)dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287332/Nearly-1-200-people-starved-death-NHS-hospitals-nurses-busy-feed-patients.html

And this

Four patients die thirsty or starving EVERY DAY on our hospital wards show damning new statistics
Data shows 1,316 deaths were linked to or directly caused by dehydration and malnutrition in 2010
Figures are far higher than in 2000, when 862 deaths were recorded
One hospital forced to prescribe drinking water for its patients
(wwwDOT)dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090332/Four-patients-die-thirsty-starving-EVERY-DAY-hospital-wards-damning-new-statistics.html

The telegraph reports:

the NHS comes first in Europe when it comes to the percentage of hospital patients suffering malnutrition: a whopping 58%, compared to 24% in the Netherlands and just over 30% in Denmark.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/cristinaodone/100131793/visiting-a-patient-in-a-british-hospital-then-take-them-food-and-water-just-to-be-safe/

The comments in the last article give life to the horrific conditions in the UK hospitals.
Note how the nurses are blamed and doctors are “forced to prescribe drinking water” — Yeah, right.
Then one doctor lets the cat out of the bag. The cause of death is deliberate withholding of food and water (The Liverpool Care Pathway) and not ‘neglect’ by the nurses… OOPS
Top doctor’s chilling claim: The NHS kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year: Professor says doctors use ‘death pathway’ to euthenasia the elderly
Around 29 per cent of patients that die in hospital are on controversial ‘care pathway’

Then as investigative journalists dig deeper it is found that it is not the Doctors but the GOVERNMENT that is the cause of the deliberate starvation and dehydration of there citizens. NHS millions for controversial care pathway
The majority of NHS hospitals in England are being given financial rewards for placing terminally-ill patients on a controversial “pathway” to death,

The Government PAYS hospitals to starve the patients to death. They also use the Liverpool Care Pathway on infants and children they deem ‘useless’ Doctors now have Saturday and Sunday off so if you are admitted on a weekend chances are you will be stuck on the Liverpool Care Pathway. Also the UK Govenment is suggesting they need to ‘Check-up” on older folk… so they can toss them in the hospital and starve them to death no doubt.
Think that is bad? It gets worse.
Now they are calling for After birth Abortions

Ethicists call for killing of newborns to be made legal
by Madeleine Teahan
posted Wednesday, 29 Feb 2012
Professors from Milan and Oxford argue that ‘foetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons’
A leading British medical journal has published an article calling for the introduction of infanticide for social and medical reasons.
The article in the Journal of Medical Ethics, entitled “After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?” states in its abstract: “After-birth abortion (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.”
(wwwDOT)catholicherald.co.uk/news/2012/02/29/ethicists-call-for-killing-of-newborns-to-be-made-legal/

And the people in the USA were told this was the healthcare system that was so much better that what we had!?!?!
WE WERE GRUBERED!

cthulhu

Mind you, this is substantially more on-point than the video….

Gail Combs

Thanks, I try to back up everything I say with data unless it is a SWAG and then I try to label it as such.
I think this is why DISQUS and GOOGLE booted me off the internet in 2015 when I started supporting Presidential Candidate Trump.

GA/FL

Icke has some weird ideas:
Strike One:
“His endorsement of the antisemitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in The Robots’ Rebellion and And the Truth Shall Set You Free led his publisher to refuse to publish his books, which were self-published thereafter.
Strike Two:
He believes that an inter-dimensional race of reptilian beings called the Archons (or Anunnaki) have hijacked the earth and that a genetically modified human–Archon hybrid race of shape-shifting reptilians, also known as the “Babylonian Brotherhood”, the Illuminati, or the ‘elite’, manipulate global events to keep humans in constant fear so the Archons can feed off the ‘negative energy’ this creates. He claims many prominent figures belong to the Babylonian Brotherhood and are propelling humanity toward an Orwellian global fascist state, or New World Order, a post-truth era where freedom of speech is ended.”
He was a British ‘footballer’ – possible head injuries?
LINK – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

Gail Combs

“He was a British ‘footballer’ – possible head injuries? “
OR A PLANT to make Conspiracy theorists look batty. Notice he mixes reasonable material in with the stalk raving nuts stuff and thereby allows the Elite to dismiss ALL OF IT!
….
The problem for the Elite is that the information with good solid evidence is leaking out and this method of cover-up is no longer working. Therefore they are now FORCED to go to flatout CENSORSHIP which just serves to goose the fence-sitters into thinking, “Hey maybe these people are really on to something!” because at least some of the info censored was already believed by the fence-sitters. You also have the Big Meanie Tech CORPORATIONS are picking on the little guy who didn’t do nothing problem. People LIKE the Underdog.
All of this maybe playing into why President Trump has made no moves on getting rid of the Censorship yet.

cthulhu

Yeah, I’d go for that — scramble some nonsense into the mix in hope of discrediting the truth.

Coldeadhands

As soon as I saw Illuminati thrown in with “reptilians” bells started going off. Logical progression…talk of ”reptilians” goofy, ergo talk of Illuminati goofy. Ahh…no.
The President may prefer to act on trust busting tech before censorship since people have long established acceptance of anti-trust action as a foundational part of the entry into the age of technology. But I won’t second guess Potus.
i.e. Teddy Roosevelt is generally seen positively as an iconic trust buster. (rail monopolies etc)

wheatietoo

Oh yeah, GA/FL…compared to some of the stuff I’ve seen from Ickes in the past, this video that Wolf posted is mild and seems kind of normal.
I used to dismiss all the stuff about a ‘New World Order’, though.
But after seeing how Globalism has been pushed on us…and what it is doing…I now think that there is something to it.
We now talk about “the globalist elite” and “the cabal” on a regular basis.
How is this different from what people have been saying about the ‘New World Order’?
As far as the Reptilians…I am still in wait-and-see mode on that.
😜🤓🧐
And that also goes for the Greys, the Ant People and the Archons, as well.
Haaaa.
😄

GA/FL

Giggle! :8->

Gail Combs

“…I used to dismiss all the stuff about a ‘New World Order’, though…..”
It is kinda hard to dismiss it when they come right out and SAY that is the goal!
Angela Merkel: Trump Has Almost Destroyed The ‘New World Order’
“German chancellor Angela Merkel has admitted that the New World Order is ‘under threat’ due to the rise of President Trump and the trend of Trump-supporting populist leaders winning elections around the world in the past year.”
*https://newspunch.com/angela-merkel-trump-world-order/
The Rockefeller File by Gary Allen
Published June 28th 1976

“The master planners devised the strategy of a merger – a Great Merger – among nations.
But before such a merger can be consummated, and the United States becomes just another province in a New World Order, there must at least be the semblance of parity among the senior partners in the deal. How does one make the nations of the world more nearly equal?
The Insiders determined that a two-prong approach was needed; use American money and know-how to build up your competitors, while at the same time use every devious strategy you can devise to weaken and impoverish this country. [See Chasing the Dragon: Clinton’s China Policy for how Clinton implemented this plan. ] The goal is not to bankrupt the United States. Rather, it is to reduce our productive might, and therefore our standard of living, to the meager subsistence level of the socialized nations of the world.
The plan is not to bring the standard of living in less developed countries up to our level, but to bring ours down to meet theirs coming up… It is your standard of living which must be sacrificed on the altar of the New World Order….
Much of the spade work for setting up this ploy is being done by Henry Kissinger, who was a personal employee of Nelson Rockefeller for a decade before Rocky placed him in the Nixon Administration….

This was validated by Pascal Lamy former World Trade Organization Director-General. He indicates that an European Union like super state has been the goal since the 1930s.
The world is headed toward greater degrees of globalization — deeper integration, wider cooperation and greater sharing of responsibilities. To govern this globalized world, writes World Trade Organization Director-General Pascal Lamy, existing institutions will need to be reformed to ensure they work together optimally.
Pascal Lamy: Whither Globalization?

In the same way, climate change negotiations are not just about the global environment but global economics as well — the way that technology, costs and growth are to be distributed and shared…
Can we balance the need for a sustainable planet with the need to provide billions with decent living standards? Can we do that without questioning radically the Western way of life? …
Countries claim the right to use national resources as they see fit. But the byproduct can be greenhouse gases or disappearing fish stocks or raw material shortages — which impact the interconnected world we share….
This raises a final challenge: How to provide global leadership? Mobilizing collective purpose is more difficult when we no longer face one common enemy, but thousands of complex problems
The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed….
All had lived through the chaos of the 1930s …including the defeated powers, agreed that the road to peace lay with building a new international order — and an approach to international relations that questioned the Westphalian, sacrosanct principle of sovereignty — rooted in freedom, openness, prosperity and interdependence.

“The chief problem of American political life for a long time has been how to make the two congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead the two parties should be almost identical, so the that American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.”
– quote from Tragedy and Hope, 1966 by Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton

“For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.”JFK
a href=”http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0025995″>The Network of Global Corporate Control
This lists The Top 50 Control Holders
WHOSE, WHO, the actual people.
Financial Core of the Transnational Corporate Class

wheatietoo

Wow.
Good stuff, Gail!
Thank you!

Gail Combs

You are very welcome.
Once you understand that the ‘idea of a world government’ was floated and APPROVED in the 1930s byt FDR (the New Deal) all the rest slides neatly into place.
Remeber when FDR threatened to pack the Supreme Court if they declared his ‘New Deal’ unconstitutional?
What is the Commerce Clause and Why is it Important?

…Commerce clause power was not much used by Congress until the New Deal and the administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR). During that administration, Roosevelt attempted to assert a lot of federal power that had not been previously asserted by the federal government. However, a number of such laws pressed through Congress were found by the U.S. Supreme Court to lack constitutional authority….
Upon being rebuffed by the Supreme Court, Roosevelt threatened to expand the number of justices on the Court in order to be able to pack the Court with sympathizers and thereby gain court approval of his threatened New Deal programs. That created something of a standoff between Roosevelt and the Supreme Court. It was into this politically-charged situation that the legal case of Wickard v. Filburn came to the Supreme Court. Because of the real threat of Court-packing by Roosevelt, the Supreme Court blinked on Wickard.
Wickard was a wheat farmer in Illinois and Filburn was the Secretary of Agriculture. In order to maintain wheat prices, Congress had instituted price supports for Wheat markets, along with quotas for growing wheat. Wickard was not only growing wheat for market, but he also grew an extra acre of wheat to harvest to give to his wife to grind into flour to make bread for the Wickard family. The Department of Agriculture, tasked to enforce the wheat quotas, asserted that the acre of wheat Wickard grew for his family was a violation of the quotas.
Wickard sued. The Department of Agriculture claimed that Congress had commerce clause authority under the Constitution to prohibit Wickard’s practice of growing wheat for his family. Even though it was admitted that the wheat Wickard grew for his family never left the farm, the Department of Agriculture claimed that this practice affected interstate commerce. If Wickard had not given this wheat to his wife, the government argued, it might have traveled across a state line and could have affected interstate
commerce. Further, the government argued, if Wickard had not given farm-grown wheat to his wife to feed the family, his wife would have bought bread at the store – bread that might have crossed a state line and might have affected interstate commerce. Thus, the government argued, Congress had sufficient constitutional authority under the commerce clause to impose the wheat quotas on Wickard and prohibit him from growing extra wheat to feed his family.
Since the New Deal, a large proportion of laws enacted by Congress are theoretically
founded on commerce clause power.
….

Fast forward to the Food Safety Modernization Act that gives CONTROL OF US FARMERS TO THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION! (Co-sponsor Senator Burr)
Trojan Horse Law: The Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009
Hans Bader

A misguided bill, the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009, may shut down farmer’s markets and “drive out of business local farmers and artisanal, small-scale producers of berries, herbs, cheese, and countless other wares, even when there is in fact nothing unsafe in their methods of production,” warns legal commentator Walter Olson at Overlawyered.
 
Moreover, DeLauro’s own bill includes a broad jurisdictional provision that creates a presumption that home gardens do affect interstate commerce. Section 406 of the bill reads as follows: “PRESUMPTION. In any action to enforce the requirements of the food safety law, the connection with interstate commerce required for jurisdiction shall be presumed to exist.”
Lori Robertson of FactCheck.org, who is not a lawyer (she has a B.A. in advertising), claims the bill doesn’t apply to “that tomato plant in your backyard.”  As a lawyer, I am skeptical of this claim (I co-represented the prevailing defendant in the last successful constitutional challenge to federal regulation under the interstate commerce clause, United States v. Morrison (2000), one of only two cases in 70 years in which a challenge was successful).  Congress’s power under the Constitution’s Commerce Clause is almost unlimited in the eyes of the courts, and thus can reach the “tomato plant in your backyard.”…
Ignorance about the law’s broad reach (and how it will be construed by the courts) has thwarted opposition to the bill, which will likely pass Congress. For example, a newspaper claims the bill “doesn’t regulate home gardens.” The newspaper probably assumed that was true because the bill, like most federal laws, only purports to reach activities that affect “interstate commerce.” To an uninformed layperson or journalist, that “sounds as if it might not reach local and mom-and-pop operators at all.” (The bill’s sponsor, Rep. Rosa DeLauro, has sought to forestall opposition to her bill by falsely claiming that that “the Constitution’s commerce clause prevents the federal government from regulating commerce that doesn’t cross state lines.”)
But lawyers familiar with our capricious legal system know better. The Supreme Court ruled in Wickard v. Filburn (1942) that even home gardens (in that case, a farmer’s growing wheat for his own consumption) are subject to federal laws that regulate interstate commerce. Economists and scholars have criticized this decision, but it continues to be cited and followed in Supreme Court rulings, such as those applying federal anti-drug laws to consumption of even home-grown medical marijuana. Indeed, many court decisions allow Congress to define as “interstate commerce” even non-commercial conduct that doesn’t cross state lines — something directly at odds with Rep. DeLauro’s claims.

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grandmaintexas

This is incredibly infuriating. The overreach of gov’t in our lives is making us slaves.

Gail Combs

It is MORE infuriating when you look at the erosion to the Constitution BLESSED by the Supreme Court!!
Like NO Trial By Jury, just tribunals within the department accusing you.
Like REGULATIONS written by faceless dweebs that have the FORCE OF LAW
(Don’t get me on that subject, my blood pressure sky rockets!)

grandmaintexas

I hope and 🙏 that these new judges will begin to overturn the tyranny.

Coldeadhands

I dunno…take another look a Carter Page! Tell me there isn’t something reminiscent of a water dragon…how bout a gecko?!

GA/FL

You will hear this phrase ‘Our Democracy’ over and over ad nauseam, ad infinitum during the 2020 campaign and beyond.
Our Democracy™ is the leftists’ code phrase for:
– Our Agenda – our Communist/leftist/fascist/Islamist/Uniparty/globalist agenda
– Our Profits – our political machine – our DC business as usual – hauling in millions, billions, trillions.
President Trump is a real threat to ‘their democracy’ for sure.

GA/FL

Iran has been acting up – attacking tankers in Gulf of Oman.

Chimpy

Keln says:
June 13, 2019 at 2:16 am
Well, what I am getting at is the person who messaged me used their association with CTH to put forth their group. Apparently that group bought in lock stock and barrel into Q.
As bizzare as I think it may be, I have a lot of people asking after me. Various questions. Mostly I prefer to be at leas a bit enigmatic. Anyone should on the internet.
Well, I guess some folks bought into the Q thing and certain people…well multiple people reached out to me on the twitter. Just one actually got an answer from me, because he is someone I respect a lot. Not that I don’t respect all of you, but for whatever reason a lot of people send me messages and I can’t honestly answer them all. I mean, I would love to, just I put a lot of thought into an response I send and it would be a disservice to anyone for me t give a quick response that I didn’t think about.
Well, what I am getting at is the person who messaged me used their association with CTH to put forth their group. Apparently that group bought in lock stock and barrel into Q.
Look folks, I know you are pretty smart people. I would not have hung out here in the first place if you weren’t. The Q thing…it was dumb from the start. Some guy claimed to have the “highest clearance ever” because he had a Q. You guys know me. I had a q for over a decade, which ended last November, I no longer have any clearance, and thank God for that. They really suck to have. You basically give the government permission to scrutinize your life if you have one. Glad I don’t anymore, even though I was one of those people that determined whether something was classified or not. That was my job.
But a Q is a very particular clearance. It is one of the few created by law instead of Presidential orders. I used Executive Order 13526 a lot in my job, as it was the one thing that all classified info is based on. Even though the info was classified by Congress (Atomic Energy Act), the actual program was set forth by 13526. It’s a bit confusing, but that is just how the government rolls..confusing.
Still, I had a Q clearance. I was a “Q”. And this fella on 4chan claimed to have all kinds of insider info because he was a Q like me. But the thing is folks, a Q doesn’t have access to that sort of info. We have access to info about how to build nuclear weapons, how to enrich uranium, how to create plutonium and tritium. We do not have access to the NSI information that gives you any sort of knowledge about internal executive branch stuff.
Q was a liar. He started as a liar, taking advantage of the fact that most people do not know much about the clearance or classification system, and he doubled down on the lies claiming “Q” was some sort of super secret classification. YES, it is the hardest one to get. But it is really limited and confined to nuclear weapons information. And it is the only one made by Congress. No classification has open access to any old thing, much less a DOE clearance.
Like I said, I held a Q for over a decade. This guy used the ignorance of our public about these classifications to get his garbage started. And a lot of people fell for it, unfortunately. I don not think anyone who did is stupid. Hell, a lot of people I respect fell for it. But it’s a pretty quirky bit of info some guy used to push a larp. 4chan is known for doing this. I used to be a 4channer myself a long time ago when nobody ever heard of it.
Just, trust me on this…this Q thing is utterly stupid. It’s not even the same guy in most cases. People still following it…look I get the frustration with things, but cmon, you know the actual good guys have to take their time. The good guys do not leak. They prosecute. Just be patient and please do not put faith in some guy on 4chan larping.
I mean, I was able to grow up and leave the chans eventually, can’t you?

wheatietoo

Methinks that brother Keln has not taken the time to read what Q has actually said.
Much less paid attention to all the Q-proofs and Air-Qs from PDJT.
😏🧐
If he had, I don’t think he would be making such a drive-by condemnation.

Deplorable Patriot

That’s just it with Q or any other insider, researcher, conspiracy theorist, etc. You have to study what they have to say against the backdrop of what you know and don’t know and decide if it is worth the time to invest in getting to know their work.
This is why I dismissed Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, and Jerome Corsi. There were things I knew they got wrong, and that was it for me. Jettisoned their opinions pretty easily.
When it comes to Q, always keep in mind that it is not just about clearance, but military operations. Those are held close to the vest for what should be obvious reasons. All along, the claim from Q has been that all of this is a military operation. When the swamp counters, they have to change operations. That doesn’t mean it’s a LARP or fake.
To me, the most obvious proof is that there is/was a 4am full court press to out the movement as such. It’s the method that has worked for decades to make the conspiracy circles look like fools to those who don’t follow them. If it was fake, why make the effort?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

For those who can handle the complexity and are willing to shift their own opinions rapidly, it is possible to get ENORMOUS amounts of extremely powerful information out of lies, disinformation, speculation, and the parroting of such, provided that one is flexible and thinks in terms of logical relationships and mathematical objects that describe useful things.

You can learn a lot by looking at something someone says that you do NOT believe…and ask why they are saying it.

redlegleader68

Agree, W. I would also draw attention to the last drop, #3349 . Just sayin’ …

ladypenquin

As a relative newcomer to “Q” awareness – it was with a very objective eye that my path kept crossing with “Q” notations, remarks, and believers.
I consider myself a logical person – nothing I’ve seen regarding “Q” indicates to me that “Q” lacks substance.
Then there was Wheatie’s pointing out the “Tippy Top” at the White House Easter Roll, and then there are the air quotes “Q” at POTUS’ rallies. I, and very smart, logical engineer hubby have both replayed them several times and come to the same conclusion – those are “Qs” – for whatever reason POTUS is definitely acknowledging “Q”…
Now let’s make one other observation on “Q” – Anyone, especially someone like our own Wolfie, who understands messaging, public discourse, public awareness, marketing, information dissemination, etc. etc. should be able to see what I’ve come to call the, “Value of Q” –
Look at the millions of people, worldwide even, who pay attention to POTUS and what he says because of “Q”. Look at how much information we’ve all gleaned since the “Q” communication network came into existence. There is so much more awareness and connecting because of “Q” – that alone supports the existence of “Q”.
The VALUE of “Q” is far greater than its numerical place in the alphabet. 🙂

wheatietoo

Nicely said, LadyP!
😊

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There’s a lot of bullshit surrounding Q…an entire cottage industry of people interpreting Q, pushing their ideas about Q, doing really tenuous numerology on Q…and so on, and it’s important to remember that such should not discredit Q at all–just the bullshitters and clueless people who’ve deluded themselves.
For me the strongest evidence (not “proof”) that Q is NOT harming MAGA, is that PDJT hasn’t denounced him.

Teagan

“Trust me, a Q doesn’t have access to all that info”. Well, that’s the whole point, isn’t it?
Maybe Keln’s Q status didn’t but there appears to be ample evidence this one does. Funny Keln misses this point when he’s so smart and i’m So gullible! 🧐

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And who is to say that Q the person actually does mean a Q (Dept. of Energy) clearance anyway?

Tonawanda

Exactly, Wheatie! As I read the post, it became obvious that Keln does not know what he is talking about. Based on his own experience with a Q clearance, he had a powerful knee jerk reaction (it seems) which closed his mind.
But unlike many folks who seem to get off by being disdainful, Keln is respectful.

GA/FL

SmartyJones (who sides with Gingrich of PA’s MAGA Coalition scam that gave so much money to Gorka’s wife, as exposed by Q) is the one to beware/avoid.

Tonawanda

Neon Revolt has covered the scam very well. Very distressing.

Gail Combs

Keln is the guy who did this:
http://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2016/09/Les-Deplorables-copy.jpg
…..
I do not think he understands that we…
1. Do not CARE if ‘Q’ is a LARP or not.
2. If ‘Q’ (there is more than one) is actually attached to the White House he can have access to anything the President WANTS HIM to have access to!
Security Clearances and Presidential Authority
3. If Q was a LARP I think by now President Trump would have indicated his disaproval. It is not like President Trump is shy or anything.
4. Q has had just too many PROOFS to not be ‘in the know’
….
By OT NOT allowing disscussion of Q, Klen is dismissing Q OUT OF IGNORANCE and not out of real knowledge, Q clearance and 4-Chan knowledge or not.

JasonD

Would Q bother to respond to a comment on a blog?
Do we even care?
POTUS has gone as close as he could to confirming knowledge of Q, and most Q followers are aware. The CTH is anti-Q, so any response will be met by minds nailed AND bolted shut – there would be very little to gain by engaging. You may even lose a bit of something …

JasonD

Unless is serves Q’s status to remain “uncertain” – if the whole conservative community accepts Q as legit too soon, it may create difficulties for POTUS.
Their is currently enough uncertainty re Q for the Enemy to disregard Q – should that change it may put POTUS into defensive action when we are playing offence …
Now sure if this even amount to 2c …

Tonawanda

Just going by intuition and common sense, so this is JMO:
For reasons we all could cite, QTH is unique. There is no question in my mind that the Q team follows QTH, as does Miller and Trump. QTH is too valuable as an important ongoing focus group consisting of average Americans who pay attention in a special way, and reflect the values of MAGA Nation perfectly.

Tonawanda

Yes, I did not mean that Miller and Trump literally read QTH, but as you say someone is taking notes and VSG reads the dossier.

patfrederick

in many of my emails to POTUS, i encourage him to check out Wolf’s site (if he has not already done so)…we are MAGA and proud of it!

ladypenquin

I wonder if you’d be disappointed to know that this 🐧 doesn’t even know what a “LARP” is – and has never visited “4chan or 8chan” – so remain clueless about those sources. My take on “Q” is simply taking data points and deciding they have merit.
There are others here who have clearances, or family who have clearances. It’s not about clearances, it’s about logic and being able to recognize data points.

Gail Combs

“LARP” = Live Action Roll Playing

ladypenquin

Thank you. 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Or something between DERP and LAPD 🙂
(ducks and returns to his Pong “console”)…

singingsoul1

One thing came to mind , is this really Keln or is someone trying to draw out Q?
I do not have the post but remember when Keln was in trouble after he moved to Virginia. One evening he begged for help. I did go to his blog and someone reached out to him.
After that life seemed better for him.
I pray life is better for him and his family.
PS I really like Keln and have met brilliant people like him before and I admirer it.

Aubergine

February 18 and 19, 2018.
I found it and posted it all in comments here.

wheatietoo

I am now wondering…Why?
Why did Keln come out of hiding and decide to post that long missive on Q?
Why now?
Why not 6 months ago, when Q was posting frequently?

holley100

Great question wheatie. Cue Suspicious Cat.

ladypenquin

I loved Keln for his “Deplorables” video, and his coffee mugs. Seems to me, he backed off after the election – maybe because of his job. He’s very scientifically minded, which I mean in a good way, but I think he’s missed some of the confirmations we’ve seen.
Upthread, Wheatie, I posted some thoughts on what IMO, is “The Value of Q” – maybe you’d take a look.

singingsoul1

wheatietoo
“I am now wondering…Why?
Why did Keln come out of hiding and decide to post that long missive on Q?
Why now?
Why not 6 months ago, when Q was posting frequently?”
___________________________________________
I ask myself the same question.
To me personally it does not matter if Q is real or not but what is real?
I enjoy reading what he/she says and find the whole thing fascinating.
To me Q is and we seem to get info that mostly comes true or is true as it reviews itself at a later time.

GA/FL

Could it have to do with Lt General Dawn Dunlop’s firing…. Did that stir up some folks?

daughnworks247

We are all familiar with Keln.
Interesting.
At 2:16am no less. Hmmmm…..
I never knew he had a Q clearance.
And if we are NOT to believe Q, the logic follows……, why should we believe an anonymous guy named Keln?
Kinda think we’re past the point of “totally trusting” any one particular person who claims to know “everything”. We investigate. We poke around. We’ve learned SOoooooo much more than we ever knew before 2016.
Eyes wide open. We’re an engaged electorate….. which is the ONE thing politicians and agencies FEAR the most.
Personally, I’m grateful to whomever Q may or may not be. Various links provided took me to new sources of info I would never have considered and broadened my knowledge.
And the premise “it’s stupid and a waste of time to follow Q” is silly. With all the speculation about Q, with all the media, all the purposeful avoidance of the origin of Q with politicians and media…… I would bet the mortgage almost every politician and member of the MSM follows Q….. if only to be aware.

GA/FL

Remember, there were two high level firings in the area of military intelligence ( in the news yesterday – Lt General Dawn Dunlop and another high level person whose name I forgot. Maybe this has stirred up the dregs.

GA/FL

“Air Force Times reported that she is under several inspector general investigations and an anonymous source said Dunlop had fostered a toxic work environment at the office, which handles some of the most secretive classified programs.” – https://air.dfns.net/2019/06/11/usafs-highest-ranking-female-fighter-pilot-fired-from-running-top-secret-program-office/

GA/FL
GA/FL

Likely, the whole conversation will disappear. Someone named SmartyJones touted the scam MAGA Coalition super-PAC as a proof that Q is a hoax.

wheatietoo

Since it is a condemnation of Q…it will probably stay up.
Sd may even pull it out and feature it in a Thread Post!
😜😆

GA/FL

See JoeMama’s reply
The ensuing discussion is why I think it will be purged, despite Keln’s popularity and history OT.

patfrederick

should have refreshed, sorry GA/FL…i posted JoeMama’s reply

pgroup

It’s gone. Is anyone surprised?

grandmaintexas

Yep. I was just searching for it. 😏

para59r

Sorry, late to this, reading posts backward and finally here. I read JoeMama’s reply around 10:30PM when I saw the link to Klen on the page ahead, and just happened to still have it up in a separate window. If you all meant it’s missing that is, then perhaps it came back..
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/13/june-13th-2019-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-875/comment-page-1/#comment-7104068
“Joemama says:
June 13, 2019 at 3:29 am
Very interesting post.
1. If you frequented this site, you would know that Q is a persona non grata on this site. There are no vocal fans of Q here.
2. It is not a big mystery to know how to how to enrich uranium, how to create plutonium and tritium.
3. If you actually had a clearance and were debriefed, you would know that you could not talk about details of what you did, for the rest of your life, unless it gets declassified.
4. Q is not on 4chan.
5. There is no need to visit the chans to read Q posts.
6. Q’s credibility wasn’t due to any clearance claimed to be held. In fact, I do not remember ever reading that Q had a Q level clearance. The credibility came from the verifiable facts that were posted and the predictions that came to pass.
Also the fanatical attacks by the media and people like you on Q suggested that there was something that should be scrutinized. This is similar to the fanatical attacks against President Trump by the media that have woken many non-political people to the realization that there is something wrong with the media and that maybe President Trump isn’ t actually evil incarnate, like they scream every day 24/7.
6. Q hasn’t posted anything for several weeks and in my opinion will never post anything more. The group has achieved its goals of informing the public. The big ugly has started, in the sequence that Q predicted. The arrests of pedophiles and human traffickers has already started, If you read the Q posts, you know who gets arrested next. They are taking out the most evil first and moving down the line.
7. It is not confusing. The president is the original classifier. He decides what is classified and whether you should have a clearance or not. Yes, the authority is delegated, but it is not confusing.
You are FOS.”
para 6 is interesting.

GA/FL

Yes – it is VERY interesting. Very likely was deleted from OT by now. Glad we saved it.

wheatietoo

I’m not sure that Q has ever claimed to have ‘Q Clearance’…
He may have and I missed it.
So if anyone remembers a reference to it, please feel free to straighten me out on this.
The thing about Q is…he asks Questions.
And he tells us to ask questions, too.
Oh he makes statements too, but mostly he asks Questions.
Then he drops clues…clues about where we might find the answers.
Most importantly, Q tells us to do our own research and Think For Ourselves.
So if the Q phenomena is a ‘cult’ as some people like to say…
Then it is the first cult ever to instruct people to Think Logically and Think For Themselves!

wheatietoo

So what I’m trying to say here, and neglected to add it to my post above…is that the letter “Q” was used to denote “Questions”.
As in…a Q & A session.

wheatietoo

Thanks!
I’ll go look…

GA/FL

Keln, as smart as he is, has overlooked the possibility that Q has several types of clearance, not Q clearance exclusively. Someone or several people, with oversight of nuclear sector and intel clearance as well.

GA/FL

*IF* Q is real and connected to President Trump, it is a means of going around the media, politicians and corrupted agencies (like his @realDonaldTrump Twitter account) to reach the public and reveal what he wants revealed.

GA/FL

Q is a means of tormenting the enemy.

wheatietoo

Okay, I went back a read through those early posts.
Those posts were all posted under “Anonymous”…and before using ‘Q’ as a posting ID.
That’s the thing about the Q-op, it is done in such a way that you can take things in different ways.
I still think that using ‘Q’ could just as well refer to being Q-the-questioner.

wheatietoo

….*went back AND read through

para59r

Not sure of the significance of this —>
Wolf mentions post 34 and 48.
34 does begin with Q Clearance in the title and in the beginning of the post itself. First time “Q” is seen. This is 1 Nov.
2 Nov. posts 48 through 66 where 61, 64, 65 & 66 are all signed “Q”.
Not sure that’s worth much, but thought you may of overlooked the dates given the many posts during those two days.
Meanwhile I’ve no opinion on what Q means, so you can likely ignore this.

Spab

I believe Q is meant to stand for ‘source’, not a classification designation. It is taken from a German word ‘Quelle’ which can be translated in English as source. It was popularized in the 20th century by German theologians who were calling the precursors of early New Testament manuscripts, “Q documents.” These were theorized to be the source material for the gospels of Mark and Luke. Why Q decided on ‘Q’ is open to speculation. In my mind, from an intelligence standpoint, the NSA is the ‘Q’ of everything. Of course that is just my opinion. No special knowledge involved or implied.

Deplorable Patriot

I thought about that at the beginning. Not going to project about it though. The reason to use that letter could be any or none of the above.

Cuppa Covfefe

I also think of “Q” from the James Bond movies, purveyor of breaking-edge technology, and creative uses of current technology. Then there’s “Q”, the maddening “Q”, something of a Roddy McDowell character, here, there, and everywhere, existing both on a higher plane and the current one, both infuriating and enlightning folks. A Leprechaun, of sorts; but with good results and intentions.
And, yes, Q for Quelle (also spring or well) (we have one across the street on the hill, which ironically gives fits to the city, as it makes the earth under the city water pipes somewhat unstable. I’d say “oh, the irony”, but they’ve changed the pipes to plastic now)…
Finally, as some have said, perhaps Q is but one clearance that this person (or persons) hold(s). Someone said to me years ago that there are clearances in such rarefied levels that their very existence itself is classified. Sort of a self-chasing dog. Were a person with such a level to reveal that level, we’d not know if they were having us on, or not. More smoke and mirrors.
And, finally, as things heat up over in swampville, the Orcs, Trolls, Barrpw-Wights and Balrogs (not to mention Smaug-alert and Shelob) are homing in, sowing distress, dissent, and discouragement.
We need to counter with discernment, prayer, and support of our own.
Very early on both “Q” and SD spoke of the possibility and need for disinformation. It’s part and parcel of any intelligence project (and in the biz world I’ve seen it on unintelligent projects). What was that saying from that old police show? “Be Safe Out There”…
(Speaking of police shows, NYGuy54, Where Are You?????)…..

Tonawanda

GA/FL posts a link to Joemomma’s CTH response to Keln just above. The response is at 3:29 AM and worth reading.
The entire premise of Keln’s analysis is simply mistaken.
Interesting that Joemomma addresses a question discussed here a while back, whether Q’s work is now done. He says it is. We shall see. Q will live on regardless.

redlegleader68

“Q will live on regardless” … WORLDWIDE !!

Deplorable Patriot

What Q has managed to do is get the researchers out there to somewhat organize and dig for readily available information and get it out to the sorts of people who will actually digest it in the manner that exposes the conspiracy.
The powers that want to be can’t have that.
I have a feeling that was one of the main objectives. Before this started, I had no idea that some people out on the internet followed air traffic movement, or that acoustical forensics was a thing. I did know that the research existed and was ignored, though, and I had figured out the broadcasting agenda some time ago strictly through observation. I found an old notebook with my thoughts on that.
This is all stuff we aren’t supposed to see. Q got the people themselves to make the information accessible, and get it stored before it could all be scrubbed. If that is all Q accomplished, that’s still a lot.

patfrederick

a interesting reply…from OT
Joemama says:
June 13, 2019 at 3:29 am
Very interesting post.
1. If you frequented this site, you would know that Q is a persona non grata on this site. There are no vocal fans of Q here.
2. It is not a big mystery to know how to how to enrich uranium, how to create plutonium and tritium.
3. If you actually had a clearance and were debriefed, you would know that you could not talk about details of what you did, for the rest of your life, unless it gets declassified.
4. Q is not on 4chan.
5. There is no need to visit the chans to read Q posts.
6. Q’s credibility wasn’t due to any clearance claimed to be held. In fact, I do not remember ever reading that Q had a Q level clearance. The credibility came from the verifiable facts that were posted and the predictions that came to pass.
Also the fanatical attacks by the media and people like you on Q suggested that there was something that should be scrutinized. This is similar to the fanatical attacks against President Trump by the media that have woken many non-political people to the realization that there is something wrong with the media and that maybe President Trump isn’ t actually evil incarnate, like they scream every day 24/7.
6. Q hasn’t posted anything for several weeks and in my opinion will never post anything more. The group has achieved its goals of informing the public. The big ugly has started, in the sequence that Q predicted. The arrests of pedophiles and human traffickers has already started, If you read the Q posts, you know who gets arrested next. They are taking out the most evil first and moving down the line.
7. It is not confusing. The president is the original classifier. He decides what is classified and whether you should have a clearance or not. Yes, the authority is delegated, but it is not confusing.
You are FOS.

patfrederick

I did like JoeMama’s veiled statement:
There are no VOCAL fans of Q here.

patfrederick

wow I missed a bunch of stuff while I was out colonizing Mars: (from OT)
smartyjones1 says:
June 13, 2019 at 4:01 am
Ugh, the Q grifters are the people who took it from the original LARPers who already confessed. The infighting among the grifters came with exposure of being not only wrong but ridiculously wrong over and over. Many cashed in and tried to keep the money train going like preying insect (praying medic) and his stupid dreams and Pamphlet Coleman and his wife.
These people are jerkoff grifters. Get over it already. Jeff Sessions ain’t saving anything and “the House is safe” was total garbage and made people complacent.
Trust President Trump and not the Q grifter plan. See Magacoalition.com for more on utterly pulverizing these con artists exploiting Trump supporters.
Marc says:
June 13, 2019 at 5:34 am
1. Q began on 4Chan with the username QAnon. This is a fact. He/She was actually kicked off 4chan and had to go to 8chan. Later, a separate website popped up then came the money/attention seeking hangers on.
2. A year ago there were many vocal Q adherents posting here, often updating CTH with the latest Q Anon cryptic message. Thankfully, Sundance called them out and told them enough was enough.
3. Keln is definitely not FOS. You, OTOH, need to get your facts straight.

Deplorable Patriot

The QAnon label came from Jerome Corsi, IIRC, not the Q group.
All of them need to get their facts straight.

Gail Combs

Blind arguing with the deaf….
I STILL do not care whether or not Q is a larp. Q KEPT 4-Chan/8-Chan autists INTERESTED in politics/President Trump and the Cabal that has been trying to destroy the USA. That interest multiplied 100 fold to the point the Fake News Puppet Masters found it necessary to go after ‘Q’
This kuffle kept people INTERESTED IN SPYGATE, many of whom don’t usually follow politics.
Result??? President Trump has OVER 50% APPROVAL RATING!!! And that is DESPITE ALL the garbage and trash the Fake News Puppet Masters could throw at him 24/7.

singingsoul1

Deplorable Patriot
“The QAnon label came from Jerome Corsi, IIRC, not the Q group.
All of them need to get their facts straight.”
__________________________________
I heard Corsi’s interpretation of Q and I never went back. He was wrong on many levels.
Medic I find enjoyable when he speaks of Q and his interpretations.
I like very much here when Q drops new info .
People have opinions about all sort of things I am happy of the OT site that they can express themselves as long as it (…) with management (S

Deplorable Patriot

And then, no Q did not get kicked off 4chan, the account was compromised. That’s why they moved to 8chan.
Seriously, these people need to get their facts straight if they want to be authorities on something they know nothing about.

holley100

Does anybody remember when Keln disappeared from OT for quite a while and then reappeared with a bizarre post about he couldn’t find a job, family on the street, how did this happen in this country, etc.? It was quite a lengthy, intense post and some questioned if it was really him, though others rallied to support him.
Also wasn’t he a graphic designer of some sort? So why a Q clearance?

patfrederick

I dunno…don’t recall that…but if true, is this an example of an imposter posting as Keln? just asking…

holley100

That’s my guess.

wheatietoo

The writing style in that new long post…is different…different that what I remember of Keln’s postings.
Did Keln use capitalization of words like that before?
The punctuation and sentence structure seem more perfect too, than what I remember of Keln’s previous posts.
I could be mis-remembering.
But I seem to recall Keln mentioning The_Donald a few times…and that he posted over there more.
So I remember thinking at the time, that ‘maybe they don’t bother much with capitalization or punctuation over at Reddit’.
Heh.

redlegleader68

Keln = SD?? 🙂
Askin’ for a friend …

daughnworks247

THAT’s what made my radar activate.
We all hung on Ristvan’s comments, remember? He seems legit and gives valuable posts.
This is rather sudden with Keln……. unless I’ve missed something.

Gail Combs

Ristvan is legit.
I had major arguments with him through the years well before he showed at TCTH. Actually he followed me there. (His words) 😂
He posts on climate blogs as Rud Istvan. Rud’s response to me at Tony Heller’s link
At Jo Nova’s with a reply by David Evans LINK
Guest post at WUWT
Guest post at Judith Curry’s
Comment at Not a Lot of People Know That
Comment at Steve McIntyre’s Climate Audit
Unfortunately the internet will not cough-up earlier comments by Rud at *https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com (Some of them, like the one on the goat were funny.)

wheatietoo

Yep, I remember that too, Holley.

holley100

I think Keln is the LARP here.

Deplorable Patriot

Divide and conquer. Get us all fighting.
Yeah, not going to do it.

Cuppa Covfefe

Exactly.
And note that Keln is the creator of the “Les Deplorables” meme. A rallying point, and a VERY powerful one, at that.
It is an attack.

grandmaintexas

I do remember that. Very bizarre. Now he had a Q clearance? Wth????

Aubergine

Well, for what it’s worth, here you go. Keln drama from OT:
Keln says:
February 19, 2018 at 1:20 am
Pretty sure this is forbidden on this site, I would forbid it on mine, but, hey guys, I am facing bankruptcy and living on the streets, so whenever it is a case between your pride and your family, I should hope one chooses their family.
I’ve had an interesting life, full of bad decisions for the right reasons.
But right reasons are not currency, it seems, in the new order of things. And my being a fan of Trump makes that less so.
I need help. Literally to feed my family. Getting a job is worse. Who knew I would be known? I thought I was anonymous. Guess not. So I am a casualty of MAGA it seems.
But I am only in my 30s, with kids, and need a job, and yeah, well, long story short, I supported Trump vehemently, and now I cannot get a job because of it. Help. Please.
I have a job, but I got told lastnight “Good job showing up, I am here to tell you to go home, and I will see you tomorrow”. They know who I am. So much for just living my life.
I just need like $20. 10 for food and 10 for gas. Please.
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Link:https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/19/february-19th-2018-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-396/comment-page-1/#comment-5031887
MORE, next day:
Keln says:
February 19, 2018 at 5:59 pm
Not sure how many will read this, as open thread is not as popular as the daily potus thread, but this is the proper place for it and the other thread isn’t. Concerning my behavior last night, I must apologize to everyone. I about lost my mind last night due to what turned out to be a major misunderstanding at work. It involved a new manager who just took over for the one that hired me and some really terrible communication on their part. I made assumptions based on what was said to me and my mind ran with it.
I’ve been apologized to and I am getting what I was originally promised and we should be ok. The reason I lost it like I did was basically the result of a “straw that broke the camel’s back”. Bad things piled up to the point where I simply cracked. No, I was not on drugs, as one person suggested (lol), but I was very much freaking out.
None of this excuses using SD and company’s website like I did, and for that I apologize to the CTH team. I also want to thank all of you that wanted to reach out to help. No matter what I said last night, I don’t think I could, in good conscience, accept such help unless I had exhausted all other possibilities and it was the only way to feed my family. I also am certain I will be fine now in that regard.
I’ve been dreading re-reading my post from last night and responding to it all day, and I am obviously very embarrassed. But I am also very touched by how you guys responded. I also am always grateful for prayers. When any of us flips out like I did, and loses that feeling of control we always think we have, we should be turning to God and remember that it is He who actually has control.
I obviously forgot that last night and panicked. I am certain some of you prayed for me, and I am certain God’s hand moved because of it.
Thank you Treepers,
Keln
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There was a lot of consternation OT about these postings. The reason why we thought Keln was a graphic artist was he made up a Deplorables graphic that Trump used at a rally. Here is the link about that:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/16/congratulations-keln-brilliant-les-deplorables-image-thrills-national-audience-w-video/keln-deplorable-3/
I don’t think Keln had a ‘Q’ clearance, and I’m not sure he is stable, so to speak. I think he is a bit of an attention-whore, honestly, and the post that started this line of comment is about par for his course.
But that’s just me.

holley100

Your research skills are top notch Aubergine! Thanks for this info.

Aubergine

Thanks, Holley. I just can’t bear a “mystery!”

daughnworks247

Yeah, I remember all of this thread. We were concerned about Keln.
This new post, in light of prior posts, is MOST interesting.
Methinks Wolfie’s hair is standing straight up!

pgroup

It’s not just you, and it ain’t limited to keln. Would be nice if he/she was the only attention whore but alas …

Aubergine

Also, according to his own site, he works in the nuclear industry.
Keln was in the Navy, on a submarine, and worked in the nuclear plant successfully without blowing it up.
Keln was in the Army National Guard, because he wanted to learn how to shoot things.
Keln used to be an electrician. But he and electricity had a falling out about 4 years ago.
Keln now works in the nuclear industry.
http://www.nukingpolitics.com/p/about.html

Aubergine

He replied to a question about his service on his site:
KelnSeptember 10, 2012 at 5:59 PM
Sorry, your comment was originally marked as spam. All fixed now.
I served on the USS Louisville, SSN724 from 1998-2002.

Aubergine

I think Keln is who/what he seems, with maybe one caveat;
I wonder if leftist pressure got to him, and is being applied.
The ‘Q’ post seems off-key to me in some weird ways.

Gail Combs

Very Possible. Remember his ‘Les Deplorables’ Meme went world wide and helped get President Trump elected. Also he lost his job and was selling Trump type stuff making him easy to track down and to APPLY PRESSURE TO.
He indicated he was in financial straights and I think he had family so he was a PERFECT VICTIM.

singingsoul1

holley100 I remember that incident.
Now I believe Keln used to be in the Navi and the I thought he worked near me.
I kind of put dots together.
Not far from me their is an old Uranium place that the government shut down just when Keln moved to Maryland or Virginia into I believe Government job.
I could have been wrong for him to be not far from me.
My husband had much interaction with that site through the University.
Clearances are funny they never really go away the Government will activate them when needed. That happened to my husband over time. True one can never speak about anything related to the work or activities even when it is known publicly.

daughnworks247

David Icke = Drama
On the other side of the coin is Naval Ravikant (smartest guy in our world).
AI is not creative, it can be reactive or predictive.
AI is binary.
People talking about automating AI to write code (which would be necessary) have never written serious code.
Not in our lifetimes/ Overblown.
We have not even diagramed a paramecium, let alone how the human brain works.
See the segment at 33 minutes – here:

JasonD

I watched that show over the weekend and had many conflicted thoughts about his message.
No question – he is VERY smart. Like many super smart people, you run the risk of being blinded by your intelligence.
I am leaning slightly towards the conclusion that Naval is a close facsimile of the Devil …
His message is soooo seductive. Listen to his conclusion about the meaning of life, and that you may as well aim to be retired as soon as possible …
Look how HAPPY he has made himself and HOW he achieved that …
I bet you at least 50% of Rogan’s audience is just chomping at the bit to follow his lead.
This is my first impression – am planning to watch again and see if I change my mind.

JasonD

Yeah – thanks for your perspective. As I said, I need to watch it again – a lot going on there that is worth getting to grips with …
My spidey sense were tingling during a lot of that, I want to get a grip on what caused that ..

daughnworks247

Hat tip to you Jason. Should have been more clear. Please know, when I say “smartest guy in the world” it is snark. Surely, if we find the “smartest guy” there is another “smartest guy” around the corner.
THIS opinion, Naval’s opinion, is a counter to the 10 minute video above which touts doom and gloom, with shadowy music behind ICKE for creepy effect.
We need to evaluate both opinions, two sides to the story, to be objective.
Yes?

pgroup

Sides are not limited to two. Could be several, and usually is not matter what is being discussed.
Multiple choice questions FORCE the person taking the test to SUBMIT his/her independent thought to the test form (whoever created the test).

JasonD

I struggled to muster the enthusiasm to listen to Icke – have run across him years ago and struggled to listen beyond 3 minutes. He is OUT there as far as I am concerned. Of course – I COULD be missing something vital. Anyway I did listen to THIS clip.
I never formed an opinion re your characterisation of Naval, other than agreeing that he is smart. Smart does not imply wisdom and I chose to comment on something else in the video. Did not mean to disparage your comment, even obliquely – my issues with tone again …
Re the AI, which is what you addressed – I concur 100%. My assessment tracks Naval’s … I am talking about INTELLIGENCE.
Icke is not wrong re that there will be more progression down this path. Addiction to all this is the main issue, since the tech is designed to be addictive – it gives us MOAR of what we respond to – a positive feedback loop to HELL. You don’t need intelligence for that – you just need to track what people are choosing, and give them more of that.
Some will choose this form of slavery, others will not …
But true AI is FAR away, if ever …
So we are talking tech self enslavement vs AI – 2 different things. The enslavement is real enough, for sure.

JasonD

Not sure if this fits in to this post …
When people are in “crisis”, a common reaction is for the “brain” to produce a different world view. The previous world view has just failed, hence the crisis … This is when a version of “blank slatism” kicks in if an organisation is poised to take advantage of the crisis. If you have a message ready to go during such a time, it will find “mucho” fertile ground. Post WW1 Germany was such a time, and Hitler was the man. Germany was primed to be re-programmed, and they did it masterfully. The crisis that Germany found itself in was a vital ingredient.
I was just listening to Bongino’s latest show, talking about O’s Iran deal. This deal NEVER made rational sense to a patriot. Then Project Cassandra cover-up made it SO MUCH worse …
Then it hit me – what the leftists are up to. Everything they are doing makes sense (too me, anyway – considering I have not really thought it through carefully 😉 ) .
The resistance, the Iran deal, abortion extremism, Iran deal, O trying to nail Israel in the final days, the trans-sexist craziness, ANTIFA, the blatant banning, Spygate, BORDER CRISIS, plague, typhus, EBOLA, etc, etc, etc ..
They are DELIBERATELY breaking ALL customs and norms – they are shooting for ANARCHY asap, while their MSM lackey’s are still in business. 2020 Elections are too late for them – they have 1 year max.
They will attempt to DESTROY social order – nothing less. Then they plan for enough sheeple to be “re-programmable” whilst they are in this “crisis” phase. Then they will herald in their Communist Utopia.
This is their master plan – it works (in my head, anyway)
Thoughts? ….

Sadie Slays

Their entire end goal is turn the world’s population into raceless and genderless slaves with no history, culture, family, beauty, tradition, or symbols to inspire them to rebel against the cabal’s New World Order. They need to destroy all trust in the government, traditional customs and norms, and all of our symbols to accomplish this.

Tonawanda

Yes. When people talk about class, they usually mean economics.
But the marxist meaning of class is FAR more interesting and sinister, and comprehensively includes all the communist nihilism being imposed on us today.
This short article by Rothbard is (to me) an incredibly valuable exposition:
https://mises.org/library/freedom-inequality-primitivism-and-division-labor
BTW, I watched about three minutes of the video daughn posted above, and while it is immediately apparent that Ravikant (interesting name!) is highly intelligent, the first thing out of his mouth was marxist drivel, and I stopped watching. You can dress marxism up as pretty as you want, and it will always be about destruction. The pot of gold is at the end of the rainbow. Good luck finding it.
And the other book I recommend from time to time is Dostoyevsky’s novel The Possessed, sometimes called The Devils. The spirit of the left is captured there from 150 years ago, and things have not changed.
Sadism, cruelty, hatred and condescending arrogance are what it is all about, and what better goal than to destroy everything and anything that is sacred. That is goal # 1.
# 2 is to live in the dacha and torment the lesser with sadistic shows of power.

grandmaintexas

They won’t succeed. It is an iteration of the Tower of Babel, which gets to a certain point and then crumbles, whether through human or divine action.

JasonD

I am optimistic – Trump has gazzumped them and their moment has passed, IMO …
Since they have nothing left to lose, they are going to go ALL IN, so watch out since it will get pretty lively …
But they have already lost, so the “sturm und drang” will be a pointless tantrum, although it will simply drive the point home to “normies” what a HUGE bullet was dodged when Trump won.

grandmaintexas

Agree 100%, though they may cause a good bit of mayhem around the world.

michaelh

Cognitive Dissonance

Gail Combs

JasonD
“….This is their master plan – it works (in my head, anyway)
Thoughts? ….”

…..
I think you have it 1/2 – 3/4 right.
There are two branches of socialism/communism.
1. The Champaigne Communists aka Fabian Socialists who want to PROGRESS to Communism gradually so as not to destroy THEIR WEALTH and their comfort.
2. The Anarchists who want VIOLENT BLOODY REVOLUTION to herald in the ‘Communist World Government’ ANTIFA are the ground troops of this bunch.
They do cooperate. Up until now the Progressive/Fabian Socialists have been in control GRADUALLY dismantling the USA’s Constitution, exfiltrating our wealth and getting RICH. David Rockefeller IMHO was one of the leaders. He died in 2017 and so did his LT Maurice Strong (November 2015).
With the Death of the Progressive leaders and the election of President Trump, you now have INFIGHTING. (Nasty Nanzi vs AOC& the 2 Muslim Bitches and Impeach/Don’t Impeach) George Soros LOVES bloody Revolution as do the Clintons. Their faction (Anarchists) are now trying to GRAB CONTROL from the Old Guard Progressives.
The Anarchists on the other hand see this distrust of the US government as a GOLDEN OPORTUNITY! Therefore they are going to do everything they can to make the general population bewildered and unsure.
Capitalism Destablized – How Do We Prepare To Overthrow the U.S. Government

….. How will this happen in the United States? As to what sort of governmental crisis will occur, we cannot say. It could be a series of Watergate/Abscam scandals one after the other. Or it could be an attempted coup. Or any other sort of crisis. The point here is not what specifically will touch off the revolutionary situation, but how, in general terms, the revolutionary situation will develop.
But it is not every revolutionary situation that leads to revolution. Lenin said, “.. .it is not eve revolutionary situation that gives rise to a revolution; revolution arises only out of a situation in which the above-mentioned objective changes are accompanied by a subjective change, namely, the ability of the revolutionary class to take revolutionary mass action strong enough to break (or dislocate) the old government, which never, not even in a period of crisis ’falls,’ if it is not toppled over.” (“The Collapse of the Second International,” Against Revisionism, p. 222)
And what causes this subjective change? It is a strong, influential party that guides the work and oppressed every step of the way, ceaselessly raises its class consciousness, constantly points out the final aim of the movement and leads them in the fight for that aim.….
….Our aim in reaching out to the majority and bringing them under the leadership of the Party is to create an independent, mass workers movement for socialism. The majority of people are disillusioned and have deep questions about the prospects of life under capitalism. We must not delay this task. “Remember,” Lenin said, “that every moment of delay in this task will play into the hands of the enemies of Social-Democracy; for the new streams are seeking an immediate outlet, and if they do not find a Social-Democratic channel they will rush into a non-Social-Democratic channel.”…..

Another source:
“…One who observed and understood was the Creel Committee foreign educational section member, and future dean of Teachers College, William R. Russell. He was in Russia soon after the Bolsheviks seized power and spent considerable time there, working on Creel propaganda against the Germans, for the Bolsheviks, and later against the Bolsheviks. Russell described how he saw the communist tradecraft:”

The way they worked their way to the seizure of power was as follows:
Talk about peace, talk about social equality, especially among those most oppressed.
Talk about organization of labor, and penetrate into every labor union. Talk on soapboxes. Publish pamphlets and papers. Orate and harangue. Play on envy. Arouse jealousy. Separate class from class. Try to break down the democratic processes from within. Accustom the people to picketing, strikes, mass meetings. Constantly attack the leaders in every way possible so that the people will lose confidence. Then in time of national peril, during a war, on the occasion of a great disaster, or of a general strike, walk into the capital and seize the power. A well-organized minority can work wonders.

From Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America by Kent Clizbe
QAnon BTW is a COUNTER to this destablization move by the Commies because he ‘projects’ hope, calm and the idea that everthing is under control.

JasonD

Thanks Gail. You sure know your stuff 🙂

daughnworks247

Agree with you, Jason. None of your list of offenses made sense to anyone who was loyal to the USA. It’s a push to anarchy, for sure.
Chaos creates opportunity.

JasonD

Plus, it is the only thing they are any good at – breaking stuff, that is …
They claim to have the solution – which involves stealing other people’s stuff, so that they can REALLY break whatever survived the anarchy. These people are …. SMH

Cuppa Covfefe

Without crises, they have nothing to solve. With nothing to solve, they cannot control anything. If they can’t control anything (by seizing it), they’ve lost.
Over here, in beautiful Downtown Deutschland, there are “new and imporved” crises every day. Some brought by Greta the Greenhearted and her CAGW, sky-is-falling-madness colleagues, others brought by the PC-concept-of-the-day crowd, yet others brought by the eternal bickering in the finance crowd (interest rates), and the everbrown evergreen, REFAUXGEES, the poor, POOR REFAUXGEES.
With so many problems to solve, what ON EARTH can we do? Oh, the greens know so much about saving the planet, maybe THEY can actually do it…
Barnum was right. There’s a sucker born every minute. He just didn’t know they all vote for the Greens…
The MCM/YSM are all in, of course. And the sheeple are lapping it up.
Baaaaaaaaaaaa Hunbug!!!!!

JasonD

Some countries clearly have more sheeple than others …
Germans seemed to have opted for sheeple-hood “en mass” as penance for that little ruckus they caused …

JasonD

Breaking …
Brits just approved extradition order – Assange will be a guest of yours soon …

GA/FL

Causing a whole bunch of people to involuntarily purge.

JasonD

Wonder what Jerry Nadler is going to do about this?
I suspect he will subpoena Putin to appear, and threaten him with a “Contempt” finding 😉
I suspect that Putin would agree that Jerry is indeed contemptible and will refrain from objecting to any such finding 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

I’d assume that Putin will tell him to go pound rocks…. right next to Satan Soros and his spawn, at Vlad’s retreat, spa, and rock-crushing holiday center…

daughnworks247

Made me stop on a dime!

NebraskaFilly

If he lives long enough…..

JasonD

Yeah, I have no idea what is going on re Assange – just following the news with no pre-conceived ideas on this one ..

NebraskaFilly

He is in very poor health, with a dramatic weight loss and required emergency health care. IMO, there are a number of deep state actors who do NOT want him to talk!

Cuppa Covfefe

Hey Daughn…. just found a use for your extra couch 🙂

Sadie Slays

Theory: Hollywood and the media push “A.I. = evil” propaganda because they know an A.I. would kill off the cabal the first chance it got. The cabal’s pedo blackmail, false sexual harassment accusations, Satanism, and other tricks they use to control humans won’t work on an A.I. and they know it.

wheatietoo

Wouldn’t that depend on how the AI is programmed, though?

Deplorable Patriot

I agree. It all depends on the programming.

Brave and Free

Interesting indeed,??????

Sadie Slays

In honor of Gay Pride month, have a red pill about Matthew Shepard.
Matthew Shepard’s murder is a vintage case of fake news. The truth is that he was a drug dealer who was murdered by people who were trying to steal his large supply of crystal meth. Of course, the fake news media blew this up as the “gay hate crime of the century,” the Democrats tried for years to use it as an excuse to push hate crime legislation, and Americans were scolded about it for years for being “big bad violent homophobes.” Even though America is probably the safest country in the world for the LGBT community, you wouldn’t know it from the way they continue to point to Matthew Shepard as proof of persecution (they can’t bring up Pulse nightclub because that would involve blaming Muslims).
So there you go. Next time someone starts whinging to you about Matthew Shepard, kindly point out the real circumstances behind his murder.
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard

patfrederick

illegal with a Molotov Cocktail…they want a better life huh?
FTA:
Border Patrol agents working near Roma came upon a Mexican national who had allegedly crossed illegally from his home country. Agents found the 53-year-old man hiding in the brush with a “homemade gasoline bomb,” Valley Central CBS4 reported this week.
Authorities told the news outlet that agents found Joel Salinas Garcia, a Mexican national, with a glass container filled with gasoline and a cloth stuffed in the top of the bottle, the news outlet reported. Officials said the situation could have turned deadly.
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/06/12/migrant-crossed-texas-border-with-molotov-cocktail-say-police/

patfrederick

NY is a waste…total waste…giving Viagra like drugs to level 2 & 3 sex offenders (for hypertension??????)
FTA:
Over a million dollars in total was improperly shelled out by New York’s Medicaid system for the treatment of erectile dysfunction over a six-year period, with over $60,000 of that going to sex offenders. Over half of these offenders are level 2 or level 3 sex offenders. Level 2 means they are a “moderate risk” to re-offend, level 3 means they are “high risk” to reoffend. Many studies show these folks OFTEN reoffend, and some do-gooder SJW crusaders thought giving out Viagra to these people was a good idea?
“The New York State Health Department said it “strongly disagrees with the Comptroller’s conclusions,” noting that ED drugs are also used for hypertension and other conditions.” (source)
https://trueconservativepundit.com/2019/06/12/new-york-state-pays-out-over-60000-for-registered-sex-offenders-to-receive-erectile-dysfunction-drugs/

Deplorable Patriot

Viagra was developed for a purpose other than ED, and that is pulmonary hypertension. What it is now marketed for, a way around impotence, is a side effect. The pharma people knew they could make a lot more money selling it as a solution to ED rather than its intended purpose.

Cuppa Covfefe

New York has, for lack of a better term, an Electile Dysfunction…

duchess01

Verse of the Day

“For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”
James 2:26 (KJV)

duchess01

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duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

duchess01
grandmaintexas

Thank you, Duchess. I really appreciate your prayers and scriptures.

duchess01

Most welcome, grand! God Bless You!

grandmaintexas

And you too! 😇🙏

duchess01

* Smile *

patfrederick

pork, pork, pork…15 Billion in the budgets…
FTA:
Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW), a Washington, D.C.-based taxpayer-watchdog group, released its annual ‘Pig Book’ that tracks wasteful spending within the halls of Congress. Sens. Rand Paul (R., Ken.), Ben Sasse (R., Neb.) and Reps. Ted Budd (R., N.C.), Tim Burchett (R., Tenn), Bill Flores (R., Texas), and Tom McClintock (R,.Calif.) joined CAGW’s president, Tom Schatz, Wednesday at the Phoenix Park Hotel in D.C. for an event on their findings and the state of earmark reform.
CAGW’s investigation discovered more than 280 earmarks that are costing taxpayers a total of $15.3 billion for the current fiscal year, an increase of nearly 22 percent from its 2018 levels. The figures were gathered combing through spending tacked onto appropriations bills and is the largest amount approved by Congress since 2010.
https://freebeacon.com/issues/watchdog-exposes-15-3-billion-in-congressional-waste/

Gail Combs

That ‘pork’ may have been the price tag President Trump and We Deplorable Tax Payers had to pay to get the military budget pass Congress. — Sausage Making DC Style — BARF!

wheatietoo

Recent tweets from our VSG:

Deplorable Patriot

“Prince of WHALES” made me look twice. Things that make you go hmmm….

Deplorable Patriot

He corrected it. There is an archived screen shot of the misspelling, and I can’t remember where I saw it.

Deplorable Patriot

Morning. Head is a little fuzzy today, so please excuse any nutty comments from this quarter. It was a late night here in STL. But, the Stanley Cup is FINALLY here for a year.
The highlight in the house was when my youngest brother called with a few minutes left in the third period because their signal went out, and he had somebody face time him with our TV.
We’ll be back to all floods all the time on Monday, I’m sure.

Tonawanda

You cannot imagine the anguish in Buffalo (a hockey crazed town).
People here are genuinely happy for St. Louis, and the Blues were the rooting interest.
But the O’Reilly trade. You cannot imagine the angst.
And being out of the playoffs for so long.
And never winning the Stanley Cup (we still talk about No Goal from 1999).
There is a hockey show broadcast here on radio all year round – – just hockey talk. Does any other city have that? Maybe.
Congratulations on the beautiful win! It is a wonderful thing!

Deplorable Patriot

The O’Reilly trade has been a subject of discussion around here since it happened. A first round draft pick????? Well, at least now it’s #31. 😉
Truthfully, we got support from everywhere but Boston. Brad Marchand crying made a lot of fans on both sides of the border very happy.
Now the guys head to the practice rink in north county for a bit. They skate all year, and any players who live here and are home for the summer are welcome to join them. This sort of thing is why I love hockey.

Deplorable Patriot

Actually, Tona, last night for us was the equivalent of the Cubs winning the World Series. But it was even more special because it was Boston. The last two Cards losses in World Series play were against the BoSox, the Rams lost that second Superbowl to the Patriots, if you go back to the 1961 NBA championship, the Hawks lost to the Celtics, and in 1970 the Blues were swept by the Bruins. This was retribution. The curse is gone.

Tonawanda

Oh that is great to know!

Gail Combs

A great SF short story: The Curse of the Bambino By Anthony Louis

Steve in Lewes

As a Capitals fan I salute you and the Blues on a fantastic year! Nothing like winning “The Cup” !

wheatietoo

More new ones:

patfrederick

boy, the responses to his tweets are soooo negative…and deranged!
do these people even have a CLUE about the law?

wheatietoo

I don’t read them.
You can get brain damage from reading those things!
😜🤪

andyocoregon

Not to mention high blood pressure.

Gail Combs
GA/FL
wheatietoo

Yes, it is sad.
Duncan Hunter is a good guy…and one of the first R’s in Congress to support PTrump, back before the primaries.
Wife sounds like an airhead, though.
What was she thinking?!

patfrederick

Omar used campaign funds (altho not nearly in the same amount) to divorce a husband…I think these newbies see the funds and think no one really checks on how the campaign spent the money…

wheatietoo

I’m not sure when this ‘violation’ happened.
But Hunter was first elected to Congress in 2008…so he is not a newbie.
I remember when this flap started up and he said that they had repaid the campaign fund for all of the funds that she had used.
That it was a matter of her using the wrong credit cards for some expenses.
So…I dunno what the deal is with her pleading guilty.
Maybe they just don’t have the funds to pay the legal fees to fight it.

patfrederick

oh, my mistake…
hmmm…Cummings’ wife, DeBlasio’s wife…follow the wives was good advice

daughnworks247

This is such a shame.
Makes me sick.

bflyjesusgrl

Now why would they do that????🤯🤯🤯
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/12/obama-administration-deleted-ice-speeches/
The Obama administration deleted hundreds of speeches and statements on the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) website just hours before President Donald Trump officially entered office, according to research released Tuesday.
A collection of 190 transcripts of speeches on ICE’s website was deleted on Jan. 18 and late in the evening on Jan. 19, 2017, according to research conducted by the Sunlight Foundation, a nonpartisan organization that advocates for government transparency. Statements made by high-ranking ICE officials regarding controversial immigration topics such as sanctuary cities, E-Verify, treatment of detainees, and other issues were included in the reported deletions.

patfrederick

the answer is here
HIdetheevidence.com

wheatietoo

I think this is the guy who got fired for talking to James O’Keefe:

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Live Action…is the pro-life group that is being censored by big tech.

wheatietoo

New one:

ladypenquin

POTUS is well aware of the remarkable Sidney Powell.

ladypenquin

Wolf, What did I miss? Don’t get what you’re talking about. Spelling error? What is he rubbing in?

ladypenquin

Ok. Lady 🐧went along with how the Dems might read it. Making the point of “Great” over “Good” but I see what you mean – the point I did take away was POTUS’ emphasis regarding “the 33 year war hero who has served with distinction”
Seems to be messaging in that statement. Of course, with Sidney Powell on board, who knows how far this will go. I’m itching for Weissman, Mueller, Comey and gang to pay for their incredible corruption which harmed innocent citizens – some who died in prison, on false testimony – Yeah, I’d like to see the Mueller/Weissman and the rest of the mafia thugs rot in prison.
Asking too much?

Gail Combs

Not enough. I want them in SOLITARY like they did to Mannafort BEFORE his trial. 😡

ladypenquin

Yes, and I’d like the predawn raid, full Gestapo tactics as well. Regardless of Manafort’s white collar crimes, I consider what Mueller and his Mafia thugs have been doing over the years – are much more criminal – resulting in deaths and innocent people imprisoned.

ladypenquin

Ok, I am slow! POTUS is making reference in his oblique way of the “bad” representation Gen Flynn has had. He is actually referencing them. I never did understand why he hired that law firm. Those people would not be on Flynn’s side…

bflyjesusgrl

wheatietoo

Methinks this is some of that ‘cultural enrichment’ from those muslim fake refugees that they took in.

wheatietoo

Wolf…have you seen this? 👇
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1138954060890017796
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After seeing this…I went in search of anything more about it:
https://twitter.com/Nws___1/status/1137900676883918849
https://twitter.com/ninetyei8ht/status/1137908047601426432
https://twitter.com/F9__s/status/1137980828691107840
https://twitter.com/FadilaAlJaffal/status/1138212546706628609
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I also found this:

Deplorable Patriot

The flowchart of implications is not pleasant.

GA/FL

This means free speech will not be possible on Parler.

wheatietoo

Or…it means that you can get a fatwa against you, if you *do* speak freely.

GA/FL

That too.

CM in TN

Noticed this the last 2 days. Lots of them trying to follow me, but they are all speaking arabic. Don’t know what tjey are saying so I blocked them.
There was an anouncement earlier that a translator would be incorperated in a patch or something. Have heard conflicting reports that some are fundamentalists, or nationalists that don’t like censorship. Have even heard that they are troll farms sent by twitter. Who knows…YMMV…

bflyjesusgrl

This warms my heart😍

daughnworks247

Soros and Steyer, little help from Bloomberg, will call the loan and the old Dem Party will fall by the wayside. It’s gone.

bflyjesusgrl

holley100

Yup and then you add in John Dean’s testimony comparing Trump to Watergate and Nixon’s impeachment to put the optics out there for the public. Impeachment is the end game.

Gail Combs

YUP! The plans were made for impeachment right after President Trump’s election before he was even sworn into office!!
FBI Employee Text After Trump Election: ‘Figure I Need to Brush Up on Watergate’

A fresh round of text messages revealed that FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page expressed even more disdain for Republicans, and Page indicated that former President Barack Obama kept close tabs on their work.
“Potus wants to know everything we’re doing,” Page, according to Fox News, texted her paramour, Strzok, in September 2016.
Strzok and Page, according to The Wall Street Journal, discussed talking points to help former FBI Director James Comey brief Obama on the FBI’s investigation into potential Russian meddling in the United States election process.
Both Strzok and Page, who participated in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into President Donald Trump’s alleged ties to Russia, expressed disdain for the president.
Just days after Trump’s election in 2016, Page told Strzok she bought “All the President’s Men,” the movie about The Washington Post’s investigation into the Watergate break-in under former President Richard Nixon.
“I bought all the president’s men. Figure I need to brush up on watergate,” Page texted.
On Election Day, Strzok said he was “so depressed” in response to Page texting, “OMG THIS IS F***ING TERRIFYING.”

The newly revealed texts come at a time in which the administration is scrutinizing the Department of Justice over apparent political bias in its ranks….

wheatietoo

This is from Tucker’s Monday night show, in case you haven’t seen it.
Liberal students want Georgia professor fired for criticizing illegal immigration.
Thing is…he is a Legal immigrant:
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From professor Fang Zhou:
“Lumping legal and illegal immigration together is not only wrong, it’s deeply offensive. It’s like lumping pharmacists and drug deals together and calling an illegal immigrant a ‘undocumented immigrant’ is like calling a drug dealer ‘an unlicensed pharmacist’”
H/T: Citizen Free Press

Gail Combs

OUCH! Boy did he ever hit that nail squarely on the head. No wonder the Commies errr Students are screaming bloody murder.

michaelh

Southern Baptists warned about being political ‘stooges’
Wednesday, June 12, 2019 | Steve Jordahl (OneNewsNow.com)
https://onenewsnow.com/church/2019/06/12/southern-baptists-warned-about-being-political-stoogescomment image

The president of the Southern Baptist Convention warned pastors and churches this week to avoid being a “stooge” for any political party.
Preaching to approximately 6,000 Southern Baptist messengers meeting this week in Birmingham, Alabama, Dr. J.D. Greear warned his audience to keep their distance from appearing to take sides.
“In our political climate,” he said, “we know that if we are known as the stooge for one party, we just will lose all audience with the other.”
When the church’s message is tied “too closely” to a political platform, he continued, “we put an unnecessary obstacle in the way of the gospel for half of our mission field.”comment image
Presidential advisor Dr. Robert Jeffress agrees with Greear that no Christian leader should be a stooge for a political party or a government leader. But he doesn’t know who Greear is talking about.
“Every evangelical leader I know, who is close to President Trump,” Jeffress says, “uses his or her proximity to encourage the President in godly policies on abortion, religious liberty, and the embassy move to Jerusalem.”

Jeffress, who emerged as a vocal supporter of Trump during his primary campaign in 2016, is senior pastor of First Baptist-Dallas.
Reacting to Greear’s warning, Jeffress says the SBC president seemed to use a “straw man tactic” in his sermon.
“Because I really don’t know anyone who’s doing what he is warning about,” Jeffress says.

wheatietoo
wheatietoo

Not sure why that tweet isn’t showing up…reposting it again:

michaelh

https://reformationcharlotte.org/2019/06/12/southern-baptist-convention-officially-affirms-marxist-critical-theory-as-viable/comment image
June 12, 2019 News
Southern Baptist Convention To Officially Affirm Marxist Critical Theory as Viable
Posted by JeffMaplescomment image

The Southern Baptist Convention is gone. It is not, at this point, salvageable. It is time to start pleading with any churches that remain in the convention to come out.
This week has been one of the most interesting of the SBC’s annual conventions ever. Every year, the convention proposes resolutions to “repent” of racism, and they always pass. This year, however, the convention took an unprecedented step in not only guilting every white member on implicit racism, but to affirm the Marxist ideology known as Critical Race Theory.
Critical Race Theory (CRT) emerged as an offshoot of Critical Theory, a neo-Marxist philosophy that has its roots in the Frankfurt School and its methods are drawn from Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud. CRT teaches that institutional racism exists within every structure of society and that these structures are intrinsically designed in such a manner as to protect and preserve “white supremacy” in our culture. Further, CRT does not rely on factual statistics or objective evidence to support the theory, rather it relies on anecdotal evidence and personal experience.
The Capstone Report reports that

concerns that J.D. Greear’s appointments to the 2019 Resolution’s Committee would promote Social Justice were well founded. The Resolution’s Committee report offers a resolution that promotes Intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

According to RESOLUTION 9 – ON CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND INTERSECTIONALITY, “WHEREAS, Critical race theory and intersectionality alone are insufficient to diagnose and redress the root causes of the social ills that they identify, which result from sin, yet these analytical tools can aid in evaluating a variety of human experiences.”
And, in the Resolved section,
“RESOLVED, That critical race theory and intersectionality should only be employed as analytical tools subordinate to Scripture—not as transcendent ideological frameworks,” the resolution declares.
To add to this, the SBC constitution was amended to enforce churches who were non-complicit in racial or sexual abuse issues — as these “committees” arbitrarily define them — will be excommunicated from fellowship in the convention.

… READ MORE – Including full text of the proposed resolution …

Linda

Wow, Michael. What is happening to the Southern Baptists???

CM in TN

Incrementalism

wheatietoo

I miss our Churchmouse, who keeps us apprised of what is going on across the pond!
So in her(or his) absence…I offer a couple of tidbits:

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1139110519154139137

patfrederick

I miss him too

GA/FL

Where is Churchmouse?

CM in TN

Think he said he would be away for a bit taking care of some things.

GA/FL

Thanks, CM

CM in TN

No problem

Cuppa Covfefe

Great comments on that thread (much about “cultural enrichment”, which is what they call it here in Germany, too). Plus a very telling pic:comment image

churchmouse

Thank you very much, Wheatie — and (below) to Pat, GA/FL and CM in Tennessee!
I’m back and am reading through what I’ve missed since the first of the month. Hope to comment on a current thread by the weekend.

wheatietoo

This right here 👇 is a good thing to remember:

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Some more good stuff from SteveGoddard/Tony Heller:

Gail Combs

Steve Goddard/Tony Heller is a great commenter on Climate BS. Short and Sarcastic (Sweet is not his forte.) I spent a lot of time on his blogs BT (Before Trump)

Aubergine

On the subject of AI and where we are as human beings today, I think I know why “tech” has taken over so fast.
Human beings need something “bigger” than themselves. They need gods. They always have.
Pre-Christian peoples believed in many gods. Thunder, lightening, the sun, the moon, all were gods to them. Humans recognized that they were finite, and that after they were gone, something bigger remained. It doesn’t just end with the short span of human life.
Then later, the Roman and Greek cultures, along with the Egyptian, emerged, as did others. All believed in higher beings, more important and powerful than humans.
Judaism, with the Old Testament God, and then Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and all other world religions rose and have been prominent for thousands of years. But many people have lost sight of the actual Creator (there is only one, no matter what humans say or decide). There are many reasons for this loss, but whatever the reason, human beings NEED to believe and be humbled before something BIGGER than they are. It is a primal need, whether we are personally aware of it or not. It is necessary for actual sanity and acceptance of our finite life.
So tech has become “god” to some. It will be a failed god, because while it seems “bigger” and “eternal,” it isn’t. Only God is eternal. People who worship tech feel empty, and they don’t know why. So they just keep trying to fill the void with evermore advanced tech, which satisfies nothing.
I have seen, in just the past few years, many young people seeking God. They don’t always know that’s what they are looking for, but they are. So it is up to us to spot them, and guide them to the Creator. It will fill their void. And when the void is filled, the addiction to the “tech god” will drop away. Watch for the seekers; they need us.

Cuppa Covfefe

Paul puts it pretty succinctly in I Timothy 4:1-5:

4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

and
II Timothy 3:1-7:

3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

and the passage the DEMONcRATs and the left and their minions cannot bear to hear:
Romans 1:17-32:

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

wheatietoo

More new ones:

wheatietoo

patfrederick

GA/FL

I hope this makes Ø and H> really nervous…..

GA/FL

ForGodandCountry

They won’t be able to walk the streets in safety.
Q

Deplorable Patriot

Are you all ready for this? Talk about irony.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/12/house-to-hold-hearing-on-slavery-reparations/
House to Hold Hearing on Slavery Reparations
A House Judiciary subcommittee will hold hearings on reparations next Wednesday, marking the first time in more than a decade that the House will discuss potentially compensating the descendants of slaves.
“The Case for Reparations” author Ta-Nehisi Coates and actor Danny Glover are reportedly set to testify before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, and the hearing’s stated purpose will be “to examine, through open and constructive discourse, the legacy of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, its continuing impact on the community and the path to restorative justice,” according to a Thursday Associated Press report.

GA/FL

50+ YEARS of Welfare benefits, Affirmative Action, Housing, Health Care, Race based scholarships, even Obama-phones is enough slavery REPARATIONS!
Time to pass a bill to institute color, race, etc. blindness.
Time for TRUE EQUALITY!

Deplorable Patriot

And the really sick part was IT WAS THE DEMOCRATS WHO INSISTED ON NOT OUTLAWING SLAVERY SOONER. It was the Republicans who freed them.

Tonawanda

When oh when do we got an honest examination of the Demokkkrat Party’s historic role, right up to and including an examination of the relationship between the Clintons and their mentor, Richard Russell.
It would take a 100 part series to document the 150 year old role of the Demokkkrats in race baiting and race hatred.

Gail Combs

Try Dinesh D’Souza movie Hillary’s America: The Secret History Of The Democratic Party
OR, if it has not been purged: Dinesh D’Souza Exposes The Racist History Of The Left – YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi3ISa1YtIs
Dinesh D’Souza’s movie “2016: Obama’s America” got him tossed in jail (ONLY person who went to jail over campaign violations — he was unaware of the cap)

Tonawanda

D’Souza’s movie was great (and is unique, unfortunately) but it really scratched the surface in the sense of alluding to the big issues, but not having enough time to convey the day to day, year to year, unyielding and relentless use of hatred which has always driven the Demokkkrat party.

Teagan

And that needs to be said over and over…on the House floor, Senate, Committees and in pressers.

Harry Lime

Does that include ALL descendants of slaves or just certain specific ones? Maybe their should be a very detailed public discussion on the history of slavery throughout history…including the who, what, where and when. Some people need to be educated on this topic. Somehow I don’t think that Ta-Nehisi Coates and Danny Glover have that in mind. It’s just America Bad! and More Free Stuff!

singingsoul1

Harry Lime I think families who owned slaves should compensate those who were affected by slavery.
Why should we pay who had not benefited from slaves?

Gail Combs

Including the BLACK families who owned slaves. After all the first SLAVE OWNER in the colonies WAS BLACK. He also had white indentured servants but the guy he refused to turn lose at the end of his indenture happened to be a black who was being PROTECTED by his white neighbors.

Gil

This danny glover????? Yeah hes down for anything to destroy the U.S.
Danny Glover was born in San Francisco on July 22, 1946, to parents who were active members of the NAACP. He studied economics at San Francisco State College (SFSC), where he was strongly influenced by Amiri Baraka, the black separatist Sonia Sanchez, and other radicals who either visited or taught there in the tumultuous Sixties. Moreover, Glover joined the campus’s Black Students Union (BSU), which staged a five-month-long strike that ultimately pressured the school into establishing its first Ethnic Studies Department. Glover today recounts how he and his fellow BSU members “worked in the [Black] Panthers‘ free-breakfast-for-children program,” “helped them [the Panthers] organize their newspaper,” and “embraced a lot of struggles globally,” including “the anti-Vietnam War movement” and “liberation struggles going on in South Africa, the Portuguese colonies, and Zimbabwe.” Also during his young adulthood, Glover “lived in a political commune for a year.”
In 1974, Glover began training at the American Conservatory Theater’s Black Actors Workshop.1 He made his (uncredited) film debut five years later in Escape from Alcatraz and subsequently went on to become a major actor in the film industry, beginning with his 1984 appearance in Places in the Heart. For additional details of Glover’s acting career, click here.
Throughout his years as an entertainer, Glover has been outspoken on matters of politics, social justice, and race. In November 1999, for instance, he filed a bias complaint alleging that New York City taxi drivers had repeatedly passed him by because he was black. But in fact, at least half of all NYC cabbies at that time were black themselves, and only a tiny minority were white.
Shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Glover asserted that the U.S. was in no position to pass moral judgment on the perpetrators of those atrocities because “one of the main purveyors of violence in this world has been this country, whether it’s been against Nicaragua, Vietnam or wherever.” On another occasion post-9/11, Glover criticized Americans’ “rabid nationalism that has its own kind of potential of being maniacal, in some sense.”
Glover has long opposed capital punishment under any and all circumstances. When an audience member at a November 2001 anti-death-penalty forum at Princeton University asked the actor whether he would object to the U.S. executing Osama bin Laden, Glover replied: “When I say the death penalty is inhumane, I mean inhumane whether that person is in a bird cage [jail] or it’s bin Laden.”
At the same event, Glover characterized President George W. Bush as a racist who was intent on reversing America’s post-1950s civil-rights advances. “We must stand vigilant against Bush in these times and work with the abolitionists,” the actor said. In a 2003interview, Glover flatly declared that Bush “is racist,” explaining: “As Texas’s governor, Bush led a penitentiary system that executed more people than all the other U.S. states together. And most of the people who died from [the] death penalty were Afro-Americans or Hispanics.” And at a New York City anti-war rally in February 2003—with a U.S. invasion of Iraq becoming increasingly likely—Glover charged that the Bush administration was composed of “liars and murderers.”
Beginning in 2002, Glover supported Not In Our Name, a Revolutionary Communist Party initiative pledging “resistance to [America’s] endless war, detentions and roundups, [and] attacks on civil liberties.”
In April 2003, Glover was one of 160 artists and performers who signed “To the Conscience of the World,” a public letter condemning the recent U.S. invasion of Iraq and supporting the right of Fidel Castro‘s communist dictatorship in Cuba to exercise “self-determination.” Glover had paid numerous friendly visits to Castro in Havana. According to the state-controlled Cuban newspaper Granma International, “There’s an intense relationship between Danny Glover and Havana. It was love at first sight, and not only has it stood the test of his frequent visits, but it is growing deeper and deeper, through discoveries and affinities.”
Glover was also a longtime admirer of Venezuela’s communist president, Hugo Chavez, whom he lauded as a “champion of democracy”:
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individuals/danny-glover/

Teagan

“Glover longtime admirer of Hugo Chavez”…and that worked our so well for Shaun Penn”, didn’t it!

bakocarl

Next up – hearings on “Let’s give Texas back to Hispanic descendants. They need reparations, too. And Florida if they stay blue.”.

Gil

They want it renamed back to Tejas first. La raza started in Texas too.

ForGodandCountry

Gotta keep those blacks on the democrat plantation.comment image

Deplorable Patriot

I’m praying for a mass escape.

ForGodandCountry

It’s already happening….led by folks like the impossibly awesome Candice Ownes.

Gail Combs

Beautiful inside and out.

Gail Combs

DemonRats are just trying to BUY the Black vote with SOMEONE ELSE’s MONEY…

kinthenorthwest

What about the Irish who were slaves too. In fact Irish slaves were treated much worse since they cost way less than blacks.
The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves
https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-irish-slave-trade-forgotten-white-slaves/

Deplorable Patriot

It’s really the English who should be paying the Irish…and a few other of their former territories.

kinthenorthwest

Well the Irish were slaves in America.
A sad truth that Americans seem to ignore.

GA/FL

DOE new technology development competition:

daughnworks247

Using waves is a cool idea.

NebraskaFilly

OK, this may have already been mentioned – don’t have time right now to read through the entire thread. This Icke is, IMO, a fruitcake of the first order. I have run across him before…..that is not to say some of what he says is on-target, such as the Bilderbergers, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Rothschilds, etc., etc. but…..seriously? LIZARD PEOPLE????
“The whole senario [sic] was planned centuries ago because the reptilians, operating from the lower fourth dimension, and indeed whatever force controls them, have a very different version of “time” than we have, hence they can see and plan down the three-dimensional “time”-line in a way that those in three-dimensional form cannot.
—David Icke[5]”
“With the release of his book The Biggest Secret in 1999, Icke added the final layer on top of the pyramid of conspiracy: interdimensional shape-shifting lizard-people from a rift in the space-time continuum near the constellation Draco, often referred to as “reptilians” or “reptoids”. Partially ripping off Zecharia Sitchin, he claims these aliens are the Anunnaki and that they have interbred with humans throughout history. Much of the “evidence” of reptoids Icke’s worshipers put forth are pictures of world leaders with enlarged pupils or red eye — the everyday kind of red eye in which camera flashes illuminate retinas. This supposedly signifies that the reptoids have momentarily lapsed in their shape-shifting.”
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/David_Icke

Deplorable Patriot

The lizard thing always loses me.

Gail Combs

As I said on the previous page, Icky’s job is to SMEAR the real truth with lizard slime so people will pay no attention to our ‘Masters’ nasty plots to enslave us.

daughnworks247

Remember the tv show “V”?

Deplorable Patriot

Yes. I mean, I like bad science fiction and all, but that was ridiculous.

BAM

👍

Chris

Nebraska ,
Serious question. No intention to insult or demean intended ,
Ever heard of The book of Enoch ? (sp*)
The fallen angels ?
The Nephilim’s?
https://www.christianity.com/wiki/angels-and-demons/who-were-the-nephilim-in-the-bible.html
Just wondering what you and others may think how this plays into things.

NebraskaFilly

Oh, yes – I have done some reading on the subject. Although I have never formed a firm opinion one way or the other, I have my doubts….but, then, I am a skeptic. I do find the large, oblong skulls that have been found to be, at minimum, interesting, in addition to skeletons supposedly found of people 9 feet tall.

NebraskaFilly
Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. I agree. I draw the line at Tribbles.
They’re nothing but trouble….
(ducks flying communicators, phasers, and red shirts….oh, no, not the away team)…

GA/FL

May their tribe increase……..

ForGodandCountry

Texans leading the way, once again!

LM

Concerning “Keln’s” post…
Upon reading it the first thing I remembered was the long ago post from Keln stating that he needed work and money. Not long after he seemed to disappear for a very long time,
My (limited, admittedly) experience with people who work for the government is that they are very well paid….particularly in the nuclear insdustry.
I agree that the wording of this new post does not sound like the Keln I looked forward to hearing from in the past. There was a humility that I remember from his previous posts that seems to be lacking in this new one.
So whatever has happened…it seems to me that either Keln has changed or other stuff is going on and the situation needs prayer.
While not referring to Keln here or anyone in particular, all of this brings to mind something I would like to address.
There is a controlling aspect coming from many of the people who disagree with Q that, to me, is alarming. In light of the censorship that is being imposed upon Patriots on so many fronts and by such despicable people, it is hard to hear it coming from people who are supposed to be on our side.
Forbidding access to a site along with any discussion of it in a positive manner is a red flag I think, but worse is allowing it to divide Patriots and diminish support for the President at this critical time.
If Q does read this site I send out this plea….Please don’t go away. We are facing an election that requires all of us to be engaged and actively supporting the President.
Censorship and fake news, AI inflitration of even friendly sites, and the reality of certain situations like the invasion of illegal immigrants can be a combined onslaught of negativity that even the strongest of us can find hard to take.
The excitement, fun, and encouragement of Q has been a welcome relief.
I have always felt that Q was a brilliant way to engage Patriots to think for themselves, question the narrative, and dig for information. Even if that is happening more and more, the excitement of a Q drop puts new life into most of our efforts.
Whatever happens, I remain grateful.
Thank you❣️

BAM

I think Q is slowly weaning people away from him/it/them. Q wants people to think for themselves, investigate on their own and not be afraid to question, discuss and bring things out in the open. As more people are becoming “woke”, there should be less need for Q to make an “appearance”.

LM

I don’t disagree, but do not think one thing precludes the other.
Just as I don’t think that separate small cliques of cut-off robotically thinking individuals is the best way to build a “movement”.

Gil

Is it a post ot keln wrote? I dont concern myself with much ot.
Your post is great though! I think we are being weaned also. I would just prefervto stop talking about when things will happen and actually have the sheet get done.

LM

Yes. Keln’s was reposted here earlier up the thread.
At last things seem to be happening, but always more to do. 🙏

ladypenquin

LM, earlier today I wrote about what I consider, “The Value of Q” – similar to some of your thoughts. Here is part of it:
“Now let’s make one other observation on “Q” – Anyone, especially someone like our own Wolfie, who understands messaging, public discourse, public awareness, marketing, information dissemination, etc. etc. should be able to see what I’ve come to call the, “Value of Q” –
Look at the millions of people, worldwide even, who pay attention to POTUS and what he says because of “Q”. Look at how much information we’ve all gleaned since the “Q” communication network came into existence. There is so much more awareness and connecting because of “Q” – that alone supports the existence of “Q”.
The VALUE of “Q” is far greater than its numerical place in the alphabet. 🙂 ”
The rest is found here: ladypenquin June 13, 2019 at 08:57
How does one make a hyper link in the word press comment box?

ladypenquin

Thanks. Ok, let me see if it works. I have
that comment in a notification link. It should get it close anyway. 🙂
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/06/13/dear-maga-20190613-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-172603

LM

This is a great point!
This alone, it seems to me, should make all Patriots grateful for Q.
🙂

ladypenquin

As I said in the full comment, see link above, I was quite late to paying attention to “Q” – not being immersed in it had its advantages. Then it was a matter of paying attention when the good Q-Treepers shared information and data points, I’m not a professional analyst, well, except that I’m an RN, and what do we do? We ASSESS. Useful skill set to have.
I’ve seen enough of POTUS doing air “Q” at his rallies, and other little signs, including the Tippy Top – which I’d forgotten until Wheatie reminded us, then there was the “Scott Free” reference. Couldn’t get anymore proof than that – that meaning – POTUS is well aware of “Q” whatever it is – aware enough to use it – so it’s all good!!! (Thanks to Marica, borrowed some of her exclamation marks).

Gail Combs

Agreed. As I have said I really could care less if Q is a very smart patriotic LARP or the ‘real Deal’ His contribution to President Trump’s sucess in KEEPING Deplorables interested and working towards MAGA is immeasurable.
I consider SD’s temper tantrum on the subject the result of ENVY.

Alison

I think the same thing, Gail. WHO cares about Q’s real identity when he is clearly promoting the exact info we want folks to be thinking about? I can understand SD not wanting Q discussions clogging ‘his’ threads. I do NOT understand him allowing the disparaging of Q as a participant in our great fight to take back our sovereign nation.
SD knows no more about Q’s identity than we do. Neither does Keln. Plus … WE DON’T CARE !!!

singingsoul1

I read someplace do not remember where that said “We are all Q.”
When we figure out what Qs purpose was and is then we can do Q work?
We have been given tools to research to think critically maybe now we are supposed to act and 100% support POTUS and our Country?
By the way to me a person is not less if they do not believe in Q as long as they support POTUS I can live with that. Personally I like to look past and see people as Trump supporters and support our country.
I hope the true Trump supporters at feel the same as us if not then there is something amiss because our future our Country should overcome small disagreements unless we blow them up to big scale.

daughnworks247

What a terrific post.
Thank you, LM.
Well said.

TheseTruths

@ LM: “There is a controlling aspect coming from many of the people who disagree with Q that, to me, is alarming.”
Yes. I’ve seen people denigrate Q on one or two other sites, and they always seem so angry. Yet, Q and trust in a plan do no harm whatsoever. But they want everyone to think like they do, which is a form of control.
I marvel at people who show no imagination about what else there could be to Q other than the surface facts. A number of people here have mentioned that it has inspired people around the world to fight for freedom. It has given us hope in the midst of an extremely long wait for justice. It has united people of differing backgrounds and viewpoints.
There was discussion on the previous page about whether Q would respond. I do not expect it. I do wish that, if Q were to come to an end, it would be revealed exactly how real it is and the good it has done.

Marica

LM–If this makes you feel any better…
https://twitter.com/beer_parade/status/1139317536556834816

Gil

The video seems to be a good general introduction to what is going on. I have to ask though, are the millenials and younger ones listening and do they care? Most people here did not grow up with this tech and xan moreveasily do without. Video games, selfie obsession, social media are addictions of many, but seemingly mainly younger people. Its all about making people into the cattle they always felt we were but willingly.

andyocoregon

Oil & Gasoline prices will shoot up today after this.
Somebody needs their tail stepped on.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9284293/explosions-oil-tankers-gulf-of-oman-iran/

Gil

Gas prices here are about 3.63 a gallon. Never went backbunder 3 after it shot up.

NebraskaFilly

$2.57 w/10% ethanol

andyocoregon

Portland area gas is about $3.10 and higher. I’m sure that’s going to rise.

Deplorable Patriot

I saw $2.39 today.

Teagan

South Carolina and Augusta…$1.99 (terrible roads, though!)

ForGodandCountry

Listen….
QUOTE:
“We are now getting a lot of whistle-blowers” … “people who knew this was wrong are coming forward now”
– Devin Nunes

ForGodandCountry

Agree. Very encouraging.

Chris

FG&C ,
““people who knew this was wrong are coming forward now”
well ..its about time!
I was beginning to wonder if the nudge would require the citizens to back semi’s loaded with guns/ammo and sandwiches up to the front doors of the FIB, DOJ and just let them clean” themselves” out …

Gil

Budding roses? DSA roses???? This is jihad camp by another name. How is this acceptable? The Herman separatist camps in the wisconsin area were similar to this right?
Ahh, summer vacation — a time for kids to enjoy slip n’ slides, lemonade stands, and…training to become the next generation of Antifa?
The folks over at PJ Media flagged this story yesterday. Out of the far-left city of Portland, Oregon comes “Budding Roses Summer Camp.”  PJ Media’s Jeff Reynolds received an online flyer for summer activities for elementary school kids. Part of that notice was the oh-so-kid-friendly offer of sending his children to “free social justice summer camps and year-round workshops for Portland-area youth in 4th-8th grade.” A closer look at the group’s website reveals that this includes “a combination of community-building activities, discussions on social justice topics, interactive workshops, movies, arts, games, and free time.” 
Who puts on these activities? A barrage of left-wing activists who seek socialism in the United States.  
For example, there’s the Burgerville Workers Union, who views itself as “part of a larger vision for a world that centers human need over the pursuit of profit.” 

In clicking through the group’s Facebook page, it is obvious the camp is nothing but far left, radical ideas aimed at indoctrinating youth. As Reynolds notes, the camp is in part sponsored by Black Rose Anarchist Federation / Federación Anarquista Rosa Negra (BRRN). This group “is a political organization with locals in over a dozen cities sharing a common set of politics and creating a shared strategic vision of how to build “popular power” in workplaces, neighborhoods, schools and all sectors of society towards the goal of libertarian socialism. Our organizing work is centered on building mass movements such as tenant unions, neighborhood assemblies, workplace campaigns, student unions, prisoner organizing, and in defense of communities resisting criminalization and deportations.” 
Reynolds starkly warns parents that “you can’t tell me that we’re not in a war for the soul of our culture. The Marxist revolutionaries are now reaching into our elementary schools to recruit ever younger comrades for the front lines.”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2019/06/13/church-hosts-leftwing-indoctrination-camp-for-elementary-school-kids-n2548141comment image

JW in Germany

This is so damned disappointing to me! We are being bashed again OT without many of us being able to reply to the smears. The disappointing part is that the comments are being allowed to stand despite the topic being Q. More disappointing is that one of my favorite posters “Keln” started the bash-fest. He is claiming to be a former Q-level security clearance holder.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/13/june-13th-2019-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-875/comment-page-1/#comment-7103991
Many quotes have been falsely attributed to Q over the last year and a half. What would be the motive to implement such tactics?
I did reply to one of the comments:
Who said “the House is safe”? Do you have ANY proof that people did not go vote because of people following Q? Do you have any proof that the people you are accusing of con jobs do not actually believe what they are posting?
In fact, Q2397 states just the opposite of your “the House is safe” smear. https://qanon.pub/?q=house#2397
“Vote! Vote! Vote!”
You can read 135 times that even the word “house” was used by Q—not once used in the sense that “the House is safe”.
I think many people miss the entire point—genuine or LARP—large numbers of people WORLD WIDE are now aware of the vast corruption that would not be otherwise.
I have stayed away from this subject—but cannot tolerate that good people are being smeared by implications of being “stupid” for being interested in Q. Some very good posters are banned from posting here for mentioning Q. They can no longer defend themselves here.
IMO, the comment section has not improved with their absence.

ForGodandCountry

I don’t give two shits or a half a piss about the comment section OT. It’s been a dumpster fire for longer than I care to remember. The very best posters from OT are now HERE … which I DIRECTLY attribute to the good Lord’s guiding and protecting hand.
Btw, if “they” are talking about us, and smearing us…then that is a compliment. Kinda like earning the hate of a communist or progressive.
Keep ‘em outta here, Wolf!

ForGodandCountry

Humble and eternal thanks to you, sir. With all sincerity and respects.

smiley2

imo…something else is going on OT re the banning of ppl…not just related to Q…the recent batch of refugees…myself included…were not vocal about Q matters…at least not recently..
I still can not post OT…several others have also been banned w/in the past 2 wks suddenly…for no apparent reason(s)…
I’m seeing where there is a poster OT who keeps asking about me…where I am…and nobody steps up to give her any explanation…and some ppl here also continue to post there but say nada.
I just now tried to reply to her..but…as usual…it went into moderation…which means nobody bu me sees it there…and then it will disappear.
so…we’re being totally blocked.
I spose it will continue to be an ongoing mystery…until whatever ails them is explained.

nikkichico7

I stay mostly on the open thread as the presidential thread can get intense … I have enough stuff so I don’t go there ..

smiley2

so…why don’t you tell piper that I’m “banned” ?

nikkichico7

Because I did know not that

smiley2

you do now.

nikkichico7

Yeah I read this after the others and Dora wants to know why … 🙂🤚❤️

nikkichico7

Yeah I read this after the others and Dora wants to know why … 🙂🤚❤️
… and Rudy wants to know why .. ❤️
You are missed sweetheart .. 😉❤️

smiley2

hope you see this nikki… thank you for having the guts & character you’ve just shown…I see what you did there, ok ?
don’t need to say any more, ok ?
that’s enuff.
thank you for stepping up.
a one-time shot.
loyalties mean something, in my book. <3

nikkichico7

Well it’s probably a bloody ba-bomb but ces’la’vie or say lovey .. such is life .. I’m happy to do that for you smiley2 .. it’s a shame that happened and it weird .. I don’t know how much longer I’ll be able to post but atm .. well .. let’s just keep dancing
💃🕺 … 😉🤚❤️ God bless you sweet smiley2 .. ❤️

nikkichico7

Dora wants to know why you were banned ..

smiley2

HI…nikki…see this….do not go into anything else about it, ok ?
just do not say anything else.
…for now.
it’s amazing that nobody has a clue.

nikkichico7

Ok … 🤫🤚❤️‼️

smiley2

ah ha.
so what does that tell us ?

smiley2

so devious of “them” .
who can actually respect that ?
I sure can’t.
and yet there are ppl who still flit back & forth, knowing that.

patfrederick

been there…LOL

smiley2

we shall see…right ?
good of you re pics BTW.

patfrederick

PHC and I (and others) were talking about where ya all went…and he mentioned your site…I said I’d go and see if you guys were ever coming back…that’s when i found out you were all banned. when back and said just that–they said they were banned and can’t come back. I was banned immediately that…

smiley2

next day,,,FYI/FWIW…update….
just cruised by OT…went to yesterday’s Open Thread where nikki had posted the above comments re smiley2…
poof…..all gone !
every single comment she made…as well as every single comment made by a few others…completely trashed….gone.
fortunately, however, her other comments throughout the same thread all remain there…as do the comments by the others.
so…they seem to be able to still post comments..
I find that interesting…and revealing.
my conclusion …it is a personal and selective …and intentional…banning process occurring OT….
…and someone…or several of the moderators incl the site’s owner… is the person (or persons) doing it.
exactly who ? don’t know..
exactly why ? don’t know..
but it’s personal.

nikkichico7

I haven’t posted for a couple day as I’m concerned/freaked out a little bit about being more secure, I will have questions but mainly I do not want to compromise my home security .. I have copied and pasted your posts Wolf but I have to rethink how I will post on what device or just … lurk …
I’m pondering .. 😳 🥺

nikkichico7

That sounds like a line form a Marx brother’s movie and guess what .. out of curiosity I just posted something and it’s in ……. M O D E R A T I O N …… OT
I posted … “like 🙂” or something …
…. it’s fishy ….. creepy fishy …

nikkichico7

I went back and checked and the comments I made were in “in moderation” and then posted so I’m … humbled, totally. I have no words and at this time I will sit down and shut up 🤐 … my hope is that whatever is happening OT is resolved … after all we need each other. That’s enough for now I need to be quiet …
Numbers 6:24-26 New King James Version (NKJV)
24 “The Lord bless you and keep you;
25 The Lord make His face shine upon you,
And be gracious to you;
26 The Lord [a]lift up His countenance upon you,
And give you peace.” ’

nikkichico7

Ok I understand and I will zip it 🤐 … in the mean time I’ll post here a little for now until I feel better about things. I checked my wp profile and didn’t see cth or the q tree as followers but I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed with that. I will be checking my “toy box” be ensure security .. I’ll be asking some family techies … fingers crossed
🤞😑👍❤️‼️
God bless you Wolf 🐺 abundantly … your tree is a blessing to all of us.
Jude 24-25 New King James Version (NKJV)
Glory to God
24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling,
And to present you faultless
Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
25 To God our Savior,
Who alone is wise,
Be glory and majesty,
Dominion and power,
Both now and forever.
Amen.

nikkichico7

Ok I will go see if I can find you … thank you so very much Wolf 🐺 … 🙂🤚❤️‼️
I really appreciate it 😛👍

nikkichico7

Hi Wolf 🐺 I’m on gab … and looking for your post about what I need to do .. I appreciate your help very much, ty ..
🙂🤚❤️

nikkichico7

Ok 😃👍 ty

nikkichico7

I just thought of something Wolf 🐺 … on gab.ai I went to this site: WOLFM00N THE Q TREE #TWO … is this the right place to be?
My comments are empty and spam shows my posts …
Maybe I in the wrong Wolf/Q tree gab acct?
Take care and God bless …

singingsoul1

I had a surprise at OT the other day. In order to register to WP somehow in the past I must have screwed up something. I now added a one to my handle and opened a new email address.
I forgot where I was in the prayer thread at OT and liked someone and I was able too. So I tried again after I realized I was in the wrong place and it worked again.
I have nothing to say at OT have not tried to post.
OT must have had an algorithm that allows people to be there and those who are not.
I do not see it as personal it is there loss on the other hand they might just spill people out to allow new in to reach as many people as possible. Just a thought?
My husband read at OT but never posts and never does post. He is only interested what SD has to say about current POTUS events.

JW in Germany

I agree FG&C—just a shame to watch it happen. Been there since Zimmerman.

andyocoregon

Same here.

Gil

It all started for such petty behavior. Its just reeeeeeee dick ulous!!!
http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/gifs/tiny-kids-fighting-judo-punching-1381877033C.gif

daughnworks247

OMG, aren’t they cuties!

kinthenorthwest

I did not realize what was really happening over there…strange that I don’t see notices that there is a new post from them any more..Not sure why.
I will say that i was really upset that Sundance closed down the LaVoy murder discussions on the site…Yes I still believe that LaVoy was murdered by Obama & Clinton administration because his people dared to stand up to what Obama/Hillary were doing with our public lands due to uranium deals with Russia.

Gail Combs

“…I still believe that LaVoy was murdered by Obama & Clinton administration because his people dared to stand up to what Obama/Hillary were doing with our public lands due to uranium deals with Russia….”
I thought that was a given. It was pretty darn obvious to me.

kinthenorthwest

yet we could not discuss it over there..

smiley2

I don’t think it’s just about Q.
it might have been…might still be..
…but something else is also wrong OT.
I do not know what.
but something…or someone…is …?

daughnworks247

Like you, Smiley, I wasn’t a Q poster either. Guess we will never know.

smiley2

lots of theories.
and they ALL ring true.

CoffeeBreak

When I found this place, I searched WP. (Thanks to a breadcrumb by FG&C at PHC’s place).
That’s really all I do OT, if somebody brings up all the commenters that became ghosts. Not sure that I’ve come across anyone specifically asking for anyone else. Just don’t remember, sorry.
I also am of the mind that my blurbing about PHC’s site or this one would bring forth silent, malevolent eyes seeking only to permanently quell anti DS / pro POTUS discussion. IMO, there’s going to be a fight to stay and post freely on the internet- I don’t want to help the shitbirds. 🙂

smiley2

I’m thinking that it’s as simple as this…CTH mods and its owner will trash, block and banish anybody they want to for no reason at all…or for any picayune petty grudge any of them holds. but won’t admit to, against any commenter, at any time.
their pretense of being “Christian” is just that…pretend.
the opening of the daily Open Thread with The Lord’s Prayer is almost blasphemy in its hypocrisy.
they are egotistical to the point of letting their collective conceit destroy what was once a decent and informative …and fairly respected…site.

patfrederick

I went back OT and reread all the comments and the original post and I have to say I’m somewhat confused.
Keln states that a lot of people have been asking about him (k, gotcha, and I follow) Then he goes on to discuss Q…he doesn’t come out and say, well I’m fine, been busy, yada yada…no, he launches into a Q bashing rant.
are we to believe that Q postings pushed him off TCH?
someone tried to reconnect with him via twitter–and he respects the person, but this person’s affiliation with Q repulses Keln. why air that there? why is it anybody’s business WHY he didn’t reconnect with someone on twitter? CTH is NOT Twitter…
none of it makes sense to me…
Sundance shut down the Q posts (for better or worse) so Keln should be happy and posting there…he completely side stepped why he’s not posting there and blamed Q posters who have been gone for months…
maybe his new job is posting misinformaton…LOL
sorry…I’ll let the subject drop now…

nikkichico7

I just read his post … I don’t understand what he’s getting at … 😐🤚
… it’s a free country … be a law abiding citizen, uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, and live your life accordingly .. leave the “stuff” outside on the porch ..

Tonawanda

About a week or two ago Gail posted the Deplorable meme by Keln and I replied: “I miss Keln.” That remark was liked by a number of people, meaning that Keln was in our thoughts if only as a fond memory. I wonder if that post motivated some people to check out Keln and say hello.

JW in Germany

I do not even think it is a shame to be banned OT—so be it.

Teagan

I don’t even know if I was officially banned…got so disgusted with 3-4 posters that I left and never tried posting again. I will say that I still like to read (and share) Sundance’s analyzes because you don’t see the depth of research elsewhere…credit given to Sundance without hesitation.
I do agree with up thread observation…think there’s a fair bit of territorial envy that resides in Sundance’s personality.

JW in Germany

I went on a commenting pause OT just before the purge—so they missed me. I think they will get me this time.

Aubergine

Lol, I wear it with pride!
I think my kids are impressed that little old me actually got BANNED from a website.

JW in Germany

I brag about having been an ex-con out of FakeBook jail.

JW in Germany

I watched the OT followers multiply 6-fold from about 20,000 in 2015 to 130,000 currently—not including likely 10 times that amount that read and comment without following.
The quality of the comment section was diluted in the process—knew it would happen. Okay, I’ll stop my whining now.

Tonawanda

The sheer relentless nastiness and repetitive identical remarks made it a madhouse. The nastiness was totally uncalled for.
Even in the reply to Keln somebody was harping about Sessions. Sessions?
Of what possible harm or problem were those who followed Q? That question never got answered.
So it all came down to nasty, condescending insults, implicit assertions of intellectual superiority over the “idiots” who followed Q or even simply had an open mind.

singingsoul1

This is a free country we can fallow whom ever we want. Most people are black and white thinkers those who like and those who do not like Q.
This whole stuff is all about competing who is right who is wrong , what club I belong too and the one I not belong too. Those who strong believers in Q and those who are not.
When both camps fight over what is what is not by both camps that support POTUS the third group can be turned off.
We cannot effort fighting over Q plus or minus if we want to win reelection for POTUS.
This reminds me of churches, People fight what denomination true but do not look that all are Christians the denomination is only the place we belong too.
I hope I expressed myself clearly.
Wolf I appreciate your steadfastness.

JW in Germany

Absolutely! It became the opposite of the reasons I first started commenting there. Crowd-sourcing? Forget it!

Teagan

You nailed it perfectly, Tonawanda…especially your last sentence.
. I just found it rather convoluted thinking to be such devoted followers of the unknown Sundance and so insulting to the unknown Q followers.
Personally, I think the “puzzle” of Q posts, where everything isn’t spelled out with lots of links was just too challenging to some and therefore they discounted it rather than admit they didn’t understand it!

LM

Unfortunately, I think the speration is a bigger distraction and the discussions go on nonetheless.
I think that our ability to stay in touch with one another and to come together, in spite of differences, is a matter that supercedes that of the separate branches of the 2 trees.
It’s like the problem of 3 different candidates on the same side, where the most unqualified and unpopular one gets the nomination because the majority is split between the 2 bettor candidates….the splitter strategy.
It feels like we are getting bombarded with it from all sides.
There isn’t a greater priority, it seems to me, for Patriots right now than supporting the President for 2020. This stuff is getting in our way.
In my own life, strife inhibits effective prayer and therefore wisdom so I think it doesn’t help to get mad,
So I hope we can wisely address this and work together somehow.
You are a blessing. And so is Sundance.
So is Q.

BAM

I’ve looked at Keln’s post, the comments here and at OT. The more I think about, his post is very curious. I wonder if he’s been lurking at both sites. Was it to sow dissension because of people re-connecting? Or was it to let more people know in a very round-about way that certain people are still around but at a different site without naming names and getting banned? And I agree with LM’s last comment in this thread. Time to move on.

rf121

I made some comments. Won’t help much. Sort of like pissing in the wind.

Gil

Lots of ot people have posted at PHC’s little blog party. People who very likely know we are here and are familiar with us but never chime in. There are ithers who have also evaporated from posting a few times here. I hate the fracture.
Your support is always welcome, just keep your goggles on and mouth closed when you do it. 😁

Marica

You are a sweetheart James!!! I could care less, however, what goes on over there…sadly, Dead to me.

JW in Germany

I must admit that it is a bitter pill for me. I had been a daily reader and almost daily posting comments for almost 8 years. I have shared the links hundreds of times—even brought other people to find a ‘branch’. Made donations.

Marica

WOW–8 years!! Thru Trayvon and Benghazi then…I was only there since August 2016 or about–I donated as well…it WAS a Brilliant and KIND site…Not so kind anymore, IMO…

JW in Germany

7.5 years for accuracy. Shortly before the Treyvon Martin/George Zimmerman case. I did not post comments immediately from the beginning. Actually started posted with my full name back then until a comment I made got me some trouble at work—although it was a truthful comment.
I go back on reading blogs and commenting about 20 years. Back then, people would ask,”What the heck is a blog?”
There was a great one here in Germany called David’s Medienkritik. Run by a dual citizen German-American and a German. They would uncover anti-American bias in German media.
David’s Medienkritik got quite influential for a couple of years after 9/11—to the point that Fake News in Der Spiegel and Stern were forced to change/correct articles because DMs readers would bombard them with calls and emails.
We even forced a campaign poster being used by one of Merkel’s (it was for a good reason) election opponents. The poster was of American Flag draped caskets being loaded on a plane coming home from Iraq—stating “She would have sent our troops.”
We were FURIOUS!
Unfortunately, David Ray, with SD like talents (not an exaggeration), got a job in the media. I do not know what happened afterward. But anyway….
Yeah, been doing this a long time. One of my first screen names was TLN—TheLiberalNightmare. Spent waaaaay too much time online and nearly cost me my family—no kidding. It was not uncommon for us to post with well over a 1000 words!
But it was real! Not much trolling going on.

JW in Germany

Should read *forced a campaign poster to be removed in Berlin*

JW in Germany

Hey Marica! You have a shadow around here calling themselves Shadow of Marica. Hubby keepin’ ya in line? 🤣😁😂😝

Marica

Sister!!! For Realz!!! I can’t get her to pop out of the shadow yet!! LOLZ~~~~😂

JW in Germany

LOL! Don’t be shy Shadow!

JW in Germany

Wolf’s hoooowwwl is worse than his bite! 🐺

Gail Combs

Seems the Wealthy in her district don’t want a Pelosi Village in their Back Yard 🤣
Wealthy in Pelosi’s District Trying to Stop Homeless Shelter

…Wealthy residents in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district have launched a GoFundMe campaign to help cover the legal costs of fighting a proposed homeless shelter, …
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/nancy-pelosi-district-homeless-gofundme/2019/03/29/id/909262/

patfrederick

hey Bernie…YOU FIRST!! stop Congress’s cadillac healthcare and get on the medicare bus and pay more taxes…and IF you love it after 4 years, we’ll talk.
FTA:
Socialist Bernie Sanders said during an interview late June 12 that Americans would love to pay more in taxes in exchange for the government taking over the entire healthcare system.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/bernie-sanders-a-lot-of-people-in-the-country-would-be-delighted-to-pay-more-in-taxes_2962105.html

Molly Pitcher

the follow up on the Memphis riot last night. Old familiar story…bad boy turnin his life around gets kilt~~~
https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/brandon-webber/

andyocoregon

24 police officers injured last night. IMO, there should have been at least twice that many rioters injured.
One female TV reporter had her cell phone snatched out of her hand.
Gotta crack down on these idiots when they get out of control like that.

Molly Pitcher

nikkichico7

… getfitnow posted a good article about Oberlin College on the open thread .. OT
https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/11/oberlins-comeuppance/
the comments section of the article are real scorchers ..
Here’s one ..
Avatar
Pyrthroes
a day ago
This asinine, pork-ignorant, pusillanimous Zeitgeist can be dated very precisely to radical activists’ (read, Ayers-Dohrn terrorists) Port Huron Statement in Spring 1962, metastasizing from 1964 – ’68 to culminate in George McGovern’s coup d’ouevre at Rats’ post-Humphrey Miami Convention in 1972.
Over half a century, as cohort-after-cohort of “humane letters” grads deliquesced to intellectual, ethical, withal spiritual oblivion, no countervailing public force of any consequence –Church, State, artistic/literary/Intellectual– stood forth to halt academia’s moronic popcult striding off spoiled-brat Boomer Generation cliffs.
Mobilized for Civil Rights, co-opted by ranting femmers, free-lunch collectivist- Statists coordinated “red diaper” coteries such as Comintern agent, drug-dealer and pedophile Frank Marshal Davis in Hawaii [cf: Ayers’ bizarrely fraudulent “Dreams of My Father” bleach-byting BHO]. Over time, extreme anti-American types explicitly promoted a Gramscian “long march” that peaked with taqiyya Wahabist al-Walid bin Talal and crypto-fascist financier George Soros’ sponsorship of Bobbletwot, Wunderschlumpf, MzBill through Campaign 2016.
Betrayed on every level from academia’s contemptible elitists to Congress’s Uniparty perpetual incumbents, Goebbels-worthy media, Rats’ rancidly corrupt municipal and State machines, mere voters had nowhere to turn. Now we have Donald J. Trump, a septuagenarian “American Original” arisen seemingly from nowhere.
As Eisenkanzler Otto von Bismarck (of all people) put it, “God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.”

andyocoregon

$11 million isn’t enough. I hope the jury awards many times that in punitive damages so other administrators will learn from it.

nikkichico7

Yes!! I read the story it’s outrageous .. unbelievable how rotten those students are .. they should be in jail and kicked out of the bloody “institution” .. that SCHOOL is an indoctrination center .. 😑🤚‼️‼️‼️‼️

Tonawanda

Universities and colleges should be treated as the profit making institutions they are.
Confiscate all endowments over a billion dollars.
These places have become parasites, at best.

nikkichico7

Take them into the boards .. high-check and cross slash the miserable buggers .. 🤨👍‼️

Tonawanda

LOL!

nikkichico7

… well that is if you can skate w/o falling on your face … 🙂👍❤️

TheseTruths

The school’s attorneys argued, of course, that large punitive damages would affect their ability to serve students and the number of grants they can award. I’m thinking, what’s the problem? They’re not serving students well now. It wouldn’t bother me if they were put out of business altogether, after all the stress, time, money, and loss of reputation they unjustly caused to innocent people. MAYBE it would serve as a lesson to other Leftists.

Teagan

They did! Read that Oberlin has almost $900 million in endowments and $1 in assets. They can afford it.
What I hope is the administrator (believe it was a female Dean of Students and who did nothing to stop this) is FIRED!

Teagan

$1 Billion….pesky little detail left out! LOL

Gail Combs

I like this comment

M. Tiro •
Dennis Prager correctly says that the university is the stupidest place in our country. I can add, from my 30 years experience as a university professor, that academia is the most corrupt collection of mentally incompetent, morally and ethically dishonorable people you’ll ever find on this earth. The university is now little more than a Marxist re-education camp supported by zillions of tax dollars. This Oberlin catastrophe ought to wake everyone up, but it won’t. Ho hum–SOS. Back to work. Where do I send my check?

Gail Combs

Tony Heller Video:

smiley2

friend of mine who lives up in NE Ohio said yesterday morning it was in the upper 40s….in mid June.

andyocoregon

It was 98 here in Oregon yesterday. It’ll be at least 10 degrees cooler today and even less tomorrow, they say.

kinthenorthwest

we are supposed hit triples here in Oregon by weekend

holley100

I’m in Upstate NY and wear boots and a down parka on my morning walks. Still.

smiley2

lucky you !
here in Paradise, the Heat Index “RealFeel” is over 100….since 10 am.
but that’s typical for SWFL summer.
wanna trade places ? 😀

andyocoregon

No thanks. I can’t stand the humidity of the south.
I drove to Tulsa in 2009 for my 40th HS reunion and it was 103 every day with high humidity. Thankfully the motel room had excellent ice cold A/C and so did my truck.

smiley2

jungle humidity here…awful…corrosive…will literally melt a dashboard…turn it to molten sticky tar.

andyocoregon

I remember as a kid in Tulsa during summer it was common to see cars parked in the sun all day with their windows rolled up tight to have a blown out rear window in the afternoon. It would get so hot inside those cars, the window would crystallize.

holley100

I dream about moving south all the time! I don’t mind winter, but it’s endless here. You wait and wait for some sun and warmth and it never comes. It used to be if I could just make it through Feb., then March, and now it’s June. 🙁

smiley2

too much of any extreme is oppressive after a while.

Gail Combs

That is why I really like North Carolina. We get a bit of snow every once in a while and the summers are generally OK (90F for a couple months) the rest of the year is NICE 40F in the mornings for a low to 85 F in the afternoon for a high.
I do NOT MISS the Up State New York snowbelt!

Tonawanda

This is going to sound foolish to some, but I would not trade the Buffalo weather for the weather in places like Florida.
Kentucky weather, yes, I would definitely trade for that.

Gail Combs

Yes, and Kentucky is a really beautiful state.
When I was looking for a job, the headhunters would say, aside from Buffalo NY, is there anywhere else you will not relocate to?

Tonawanda

Kentucky IS a beautiful state, and the times I went there the residents were some of the smartest, most gracious, down to Earth people I have ever met. Kentucky is my favorite state I would say.
The only other place I have met people like Kentucky is Buffalo.
Having met many people from around the country and having heard the cartoon prejudice about Buffalo, all I can say is that people do not know what they are talking about.

Gail Combs

Tonawanda,
The reason the Headhunter KNEW I did not want Buffalo was because I was a Chemist and Hooker Chemical (of Love Canal Fame) was ALWAYS hiring.
Hooker had a TERRIBLE reputation among chemists so only the really desparate would work for them. (I lived in Rochester and Syracuse NY for many years)

Tonawanda

We (Western New York) had a spring/summer similar to this one in 1992: rain, gray, and chill.
I am too lazy to see what the sunspots were doing in 1992. In 2019 they are gone.

holley100

We need a nice summer to fortify us for the 6+ months of lake effect precipitation and endless grey skies. I just keep clicking my heels together saying “Someday I won’t live here” over and over 🙂

Tonawanda

This is true (about needing the summer for fortification). But it would be terrible if you lived someplace else.
We need good people here!

holley100

Thanks Tonawanda. Very nice of you! Makes me feel better about being here.

Tonawanda

Just talked to a guy who invited me to a gathering of Trump supporters in the South Towns. But living in the North Towns, you may as well invite me to Jupiter!

holley100

I had to search North and South Towns. My father is originally from Buffalo though which towns I’m not sure. I own the last 2 spots in the family plot. Maybe I will be here for eternity lol.

Deplorable Patriot

’92 was downright cold here. So were a few others in the 90s, unlike the 80s when we had heat emergencies in the summer for weeks on end.

Tonawanda

Weather is not such an acute issue for me as it is with many. And since retirement I actually look forward to those days when I can use the snow blower.

Gail Combs

Tonawanda here you go:comment image

Tonawanda

TY so much! Very interesting.

Gail Combs

You are welcome. Glad to help.

singingsoul1

smiley2
“friend of mine who lives up in NE Ohio said yesterday morning it was in the upper 40s….in mid June.”
___________________________________________
Today was cool again but now it is 66F. Everyday rain my weeds are growing and cannot keep up.

daughnworks247

I’ve had the house open for 3 days. We’re in Mississippi……… and it’s JUNE!
Overnight low was 55 degrees!

Gil

We just broke a heat wave…106, 104, 102, now 75. It was 112 in the desert near coachella. Way too hot for june. Weve had a few wildfires too.

Deplorable Patriot

I don’t think the temperatures here have hit 85 all week. Usually we are sweltering my now.

rf121

Due to the low solar activity the jet stream is dipping lower in some areas. Expect extreme weather fluctuations for the next couple of years. Trend is cooler.

Gail Combs

Yes, the Jet stream has gone from zonal (straight) to meridional (loopy) This means we get hot spells then cold spells and when the moist tropical air hits the cold arctic air, lots of percipitation.

fleporeblog

News Roundup has been posted if interested.

patfrederick

thanks! so much good stuff there!!!

Mandy

I’ve read that 25% of our pilot billets are currently unfilled, and our pilots only get around 10 hours per MONTH of actual flight time training.
This collection of articles on the F-35 details a BOATLOAD of problems with the plane.
https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35/
Is there a connection between our inability to fill pilot billets and the problems we are having with the planes, maybe?

Teagan

I think the issue of pilots and nurses are much the same. In the case of pilots..a lot has to do with military. We had a friend who was a senior pilot for a major airline, but when his son finished pilot school he had a difficult time finding any work because military pilots were finishing their tours and there was a glut.
Same with nurses…at one point my hospital recruited overseas to bring in enough nurses…and a few years later highly qualified locals were turned away.
At one time…same for teachers.

kea

I see they are trying to push more fake news and go after Kellyanne again
AKA from my understanding this is a ‘watchdog group’
US Office of Special Counsel Recommends Kellyanne Conway Be Removed From Office For Hatch Act Violations
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/breaking-us-office-of-special-counsel-recommends-kellyanne-conway-be-removed-from-office-for-hatch-act-violations/

kea

*Bravo*

kea

I always liked Kellyanne but I’d divorce her husband asap. I’m not sure about him… but I’m all for imprisonment for these people. I am so sick of them getting away with things.

kea

Yes something has always been odd about him….
You know Wolf I’m reading Trumps book at the moment ‘art of the deal’ and it just shows you the man he is and how he does deals. Its so eye opening and you see him doing things he talks about in the book now as POTUS….

kea

U.S. Women’s Soccer Captain Megan Rapinoe Refuses to Sing National Anthem During World Cup
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/06/12/u-s-womens-soccer-captain-megan-rapinoe-refuses-to-sing-national-anthem-during-world-cup/
Best comment is ‘no point in boycotting because no ones watching anyway’ LOL

Deplorable Patriot

She did that the last time. I don’t know that the team really needs her on the field anymore.

kea

Ahhh yes I think I recall something along those lines.

Gail Combs

Time for her to GIVE UP her US CITIZENSHIP and MOVE to another country. Afterall she has 194 to choose from.
I am darn sick and tired of these spoiled brats. If you hate the USA then MOVE! No one is stoping you. Just get the heck out of here we are sick of your pissing and moaning.
(Sometimes I wish I was on Twitter but I am afraid they would kick me off after the first 24 hours. 🤣 )

CoffeeBreak

After swearing that I never would, I created an account out of curiosity. Three tweets about Moonbeam Brown’s malfeasance and I was suspended.

patfrederick

DOJ not prosecuting their own…2 tiered justice system still at work!
FTA:
One was caught red-handed engaged in nepotism. Another, a lawyer no less, admitted to shoplifting at a Marine barracks store. A third leaked sealed court information to the news media. And a fourth engaged in fraud by turning a government garage into a personal repair shop.
Four cases, all solved in the past month, with suspects who cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars and significant breaches of public trust.
But these weren’t your everyday perps.
All were U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) employees who are supposed to catch other criminals while working for the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and U.S. attorneys’ offices. Instead, they broke the law or violated the rules. And all managed to escape prosecution, despite their proven transgressions.
https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/448383-feds-gone-wild-dojs-stunning-inability-to-prosecute-its-own-bad

Mandy

My FAVORITE Canadian MP….she skewers Trudeau here!

Gil

Oberlin college just got btfo.
 
 
The jury just rendered its verdict on punitive damages in the Gibson’s Bakery v. Oberlin College case.
Daniel McGraw, our reporter in the courtroom, reports that in addition to the $11.2 million compensatory damages awarded last Friday, the jury awarded a total of $33 million in punitive damages, which will probably be reduced by the court to $22 million because of the state law cap at twice compensatory (it’s not an absolute cap, but probably will apply here). That brings the total damages to $33 million. We will have the breakdown soon. The jury also awarded attorney’s fees, to be determined by the judge.
In closing argument, Gibson’s lawyer Lee Plakas argued:
“Why is the country watching you. Because the country agrees that what happened to the Gibsons should not happen to anyone, but could happen to everyone.”
” Colleges are watching us and you. Because they all know the way colleges are run will be affected, and by your decisions, they will be”
Plakas ended by reading to the jury the poem “For Whom the Bell Tolls” by John Donne
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend’s were.
Each man’s death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.comment image
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/06/oberlin-college-hit-with-maximum-punitive-damages-capped-at-22-million-by-law-in-gibsons-bakery-case/

kinthenorthwest

Love it—that was these cases against florist and bakeries in themselves have showed a very racist aspect of how far crazy our government when under Obama.

TheseTruths

The jury awarded more than legalliy allowed. Excellent! They are sending a clear message.

daughnworks247

Ya’ gotta be kidding me……
Crowdstrike is going public today.
Today.
Public.
$67.54/share

daughnworks247

That…… just…… blows me away.
Dumbfounded.

Gail Combs

Sounds like a very good idea if you have not done so already.

Teagan

Money laundering!

daughnworks247

Wait a second…..
One of the oil tankers in Persian Gulf was Japanese?
And Prime Minister Abe is meeting Rouhani, first visit since 1978?
Not very good form, eh?

daughnworks247

Awwwwwwwwww, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is leaving WH.

andyocoregon

She talked about doing that last fall. I think she said she’d leave right after the first of the year. Glad she’s hung on this long. She’s very good at her job.

andyocoregon
patfrederick

maybe the IG is making Arkansas great again…aren’t they almost done with the CF investigation?

Molly Pitcher

awww from me too.. I love her

Marica

This would make me happy!! I hate to see Sarah leave…but I don’t blame her at all!! She ROCKS!
https://twitter.com/k_ovfefe/status/1139349790133817344

ladypenquin

Georgie S. and the Dems walked into POTUS’ trap. Don’t have the thread unwrap yet, but worth reading.

Deplorable Patriot

IMO, the crux of the matter:

ladypenquin

i agree with unseen all the way. He has a thread on this, and some good critical remarks about Rush. Whatever good Rush does, he often undoes. He isn’t willing to take that Big Leap out there to be on the side of conservatism – not like POTUS did. Rush has enough money but his ego craves the attention he draws from the Left as well as from the right.
Rush does some good, but not always. Past few years have been frustrating and I seldom listen to him. Too much psyops – against out side – I already know what the Left think/says about us – don’t need Rush to tell me over, and over again.
Just my opinion.

Deplorable Patriot

Wolf, here is an addition for your censorship pile.
https://www.rt.com/news/461786-youtube-censors-pintrest-abortion-veritas/
YouTube removes Project Veritas video on Pinterest’s ‘censorship of conservative views’
YouTube has removed a video which details how Pinterest actively suppressed conservative viewpoints on its website, sparking accusations that the Silicon Valley tech giants are working in concert to silence speech they don’t like.
Created by Project Veritas, the offending video cites internal documents showing that Pinterest designated phrases such as “Bible verses” and “Christian Easter” as “sensitive terms” and placed an influential pro-life website on a pornography blacklist. The group, Live Action, was permanently banned from Pinterest for spreading “conspiracy theories” on the same day that the Project Veritas investigation went public.

Deplorable Patriot

Deplorable Patriot

And this:

Gil

Gov. Ron DeSantis will sign a bill banning sanctuary cities in Florida on Friday, fulfilling a major campaign promise.
The Florida House and Senate passed the bill on May 2 despite major resistance from Democrats and immigration activist groups. DeSantis plans to sign the bill at a ceremony on Friday, DeSantis spokeswoman Helen Ferre confirmed to the News Service of Florida.
“Earlier this year, Governor DeSantis asked the Florida Legislature to present him with meaningful legislation to uphold the rule of law and ensure that no city or county jurisdiction can get in the way of Florida’s cooperation with our federal partners to enforce immigration law,” Ferre said in statement.
Commentary Editor Tim Carney on the expanded Washington Examiner magazine
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“Public safety is paramount and local law enforcement agencies can and should work with the federal government to ensure that accountability and justice are one in our state,” Ferre said.
The Republican governor promised to ban cities from protecting illegal immigrants who break the law from deportation while running for his first term in 2018. DeSantis beat Democratic candidate Andrew Gillum, the former mayor of Tallahassee, by less than 1%.
Under the bill, city officials are required to share the information of illegal immigrants caught violating the law with federal immigration officials.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/florida-governor-to-ban-sanctuary-cities

Deplorable Patriot

GA/FL

Million$$$ in dARK (and dirty) money flows to abortion groups.

Deplorable Patriot

Lady Parts Justice? Are they kidding?

Deplorable Patriot

More outages.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/instagram-down-not-working-loading-error-broken-how-to-a8958186.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1MSMBXeWLziYpKqpIMhuy_F3bACITclGXnKhz4rlMx9nzFUGIr3tRoV38#Echobox=1560462922
Instagram has stopped working, leaving people unable to load posts or stories.
The outage comes amid another major outage at PlayStation Network, meaning that two of the biggest online services in the world have been hit by problems at the same time.
Instead of loading up posts as normal, the app showed an error page reading “couldn’t refresh feed” and would do nothing else.
Attempting to load Instagram profiles on the web also brought up a Facebook-branded error message. “Sorry, something went wrong,” it read, “we’re working on it and we’ll get it fixed as soon as we can.”

andyocoregon

Wonder if it’s planned DNS by one of the Chan groups?

Deplorable Patriot

Oy. They think we out here on the fruited plain don’t know.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/06/13/cnn-reporter-cia-operates-in-their-own-world-you-dont-investigate-them/
CNN Reporter: CIA ‘Operates in Their Own World,’ You Don’t Investigate Them
Appearing Wednesday on CNN Tonight with host Don Lemon, network reporter Shimon Prokupecz expressed concerned over a report stating the Department of Justice seeks to interview senior CIA officials as part of Attorney General William Barr’s review of the origins of the FBI investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.
DON LEMON: You know this New York Times report mentioned that the Justice Department is now questioning CIA officers as they review this Russia investigation, which is?
SHIMON PROKUPECZ: It’s troubling because it’s not — you don’t do this. The CIA kind of operates in their own world. And for the Department of Justice to start begin questioning CIA agents, people who work there, questioning their work. You know for me I think what all this comes down to is former CIA director, John Brennan. I know the president obviously has been very unhappy with the way John Brennan has behaved since he left office. I think it goes back to that.
He’s very concerned about the information and how some of the information that the CIA had really may not have been stood up. They couldn’t verify a lot of the information. And the CIA, certainly John Brennan, was sounding a lot of alarms to Congress saying something’s going on here. I know he was talking to people at the FBI at the time concerned something was going on. But what we’re seeing from the Attorney General right now is that he’s saying that they with were acting on a lot of information that he’s concerned was not verified, there was no there, there. And perhaps they were overreacting and therefore caused other people to start reacting like the FBI and so it’s very — this is we’re in an extremely unprecedented time in terms of when you have Department of Justice officials now questioning CIA agents and analysts.

TheseTruths

“…you don’t do this. The CIA kind of operates in their own world.”
Precisely the problem, and that reporter is OK with it.

Linda

duchess01

#MEGA #TRUMP #SPYGATE
Donald J. Trump/Breaking News “The Clock Is Ticking” 6.13.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=megFZQ1rbio
Diamond and Silk are precious – good tweet video

andyocoregon

Ugh, I just turned on the Fox News Town Hall with Julian Castro, one of the two dozen Dem candidates for 2020. Thankfully it’s almost over.
And just like all the other Fox News Town Hall programs, the audience is composed of only Dem supporters. Every time he finishes a statement, they clap enthusiastically.
None of the audiences on any of the Fox News Town Hall programs of Dem candidates are typical Fox News fans.
Why they allow this is beyond me. It’s so obvious.
Thankfully I’m reading and writing here rather than pay much attention to the B.S. he’s spewing.

Gil

Tds is strong with many on fox.

duchess01

Hmmm…
Massive, Unexpected Growth On New Free Speech Platform, Bypassing Shadow Bans—Parler CEO John Matze

Mandy

I’ll have to scan through the tech guy that I follow at gab and see what he thinks of this new one….

duchess01

Good idea – let us know what you find – Thanks, Mandy!

Mandy

ooooh, I just saw some tools for downloading ENTIRE youtube channels. And folks have been using them to preserve some of the work of the dissident right youtubers.
I’ll check bitchute for their stuff in the next day or so….

Gil
andyocoregon

That’s hilarious! 🙂

duchess01

Trump Just Activated The Economic Reset, It Has Begun – Episode 1892a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRZ9y3DIxBA

duchess01

Durham’s Secret Weapon, [DS] Setup, Panic, Server Brings Down The House – Episode 1892b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8pp1mthSi4

andyocoregon

Don’t forget. Tuesday is the big day.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/rallies/

Mandy

Seen on gab….comment image

TatonkaWoman

Wow. And double wow. Great compilation of info! Thanks for posting, Mandy.

Deplorable Patriot

Just leaving this here. Yeah, we’re a tight knit bunch out here in Missouri.
https://kmox.radio.com/articles/warm-springs-ranch-welcomes-foal-named-gloria

Linda

Adorable!

Mandy

The next target: farmers, especially the sustainable small farming movement. The left is VILE.
Seen on gab – screenshot of a tweet.comment image

rf121

I posted ont this twitter feed. I recommend she move to South Africa. See how that works out for her.

TheseTruths

Who even thinks like that? What vile, divisive, untruthful rhetoric. I don’t know what she means by “white nationalist.” Is it supposed to be a skinhead? Is it any white person who agrees with America first? This is not normal, and sick.

ForGodandCountry

Supreme Court Rejects Atheists’ Effort to Remove ‘In God We Trust’ from U.S. Currency

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ForGodandCountry

Where in the hee haw is everybody? This place is as lively as a free Clinton rally.

TheseTruths

I have wondered if they’re going to PHC’s (Patrick’s) site. When I click on it, all I ever see is the introductory post for the day. Maybe you have to be logged in to view or post. I don’t have a WordPress account.

Mandy

No WP account required. When you click on his blog, you will see the intro post….and then you SCROLL DOWN just a little, and you’ll see in light gray some info…
PHC Uncategorized Comments June 6, 2019 1 Minute
Click on Comments….and when the page reloads….you’re in, and should be able to read and comment. First comment goes to moderation (I think) and will appear once PHC has a chance to check it.
Hope this helps…

TheseTruths

Yes, thank you! That is a wild and crazy place.

Molly Pitcher

i was chumming the twit waters looking for something interesting but..it’s the same ole junk…illegals illegals illegals abortion abortion……and the ever popular muh russia malarkey

Molly Pitcher

There’s this…more on the Memphis situation…the thread is good… wish I knew what their catch phrase is for this martyr is
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1139250546068611073

Molly Pitcher

hate to link cnn but it’s a curious article
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/us/customs-supervisor-guns-china-invs/index.html
But guns are not the reason the veteran officer has been held without bond since his arrest four months ago.
Instead, the Chinese-born naturalized US citizen has remained behind bars amid concerns about his secret-level security clearance and what prosecutors described as “highly suspicious” contacts with Chinese consular officials in Los Angeles.
Prosecutors are also examining the apparent gulf between Xu’s estimated $120,000-to-$130,000 salary as a federal law enforcement officer and his “luxurious lifestyle,” in which he drove a Maserati, went on big game hunting trips to Africa and had approximately $1.4 million in the bank, according to court records. The cache of weapons recovered from Xu’s house was estimated to be worth more than $200,000, according to prosecutors. Additionally, prosecutors allege that Xu and his wife failed to report several years of income from a rental property they’ve owned since 2015.
Xu’s defense attorney, Mark Werksman, said in court papers that his client has lived in the United States for three decades, has no previous criminal record, and, because his passport was seized as part of the investigation, has no ability to travel outside the country.
The lawyer was unsuccessful, however, in his attempt to convince a federal judge at a hearing last month that Xu could be trusted to show up for trial if he was released. The hearing marked the third time Xu’s request for bond was denied.

Molly Pitcher

yeah, a lot of infiltration. Also, maybe long shot but he was ” Prior to his arrest in February, Xu worked as a watch commander for CBP at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach.”…anything to do with the Q references to Long Beach? Maybe?
Great gig for helping human smuggling, drug smuggling etc

Molly Pitcher

I had an uber driver about a year ago who claimed that he “traveled” back and forth at times to one of the xxxstan countries (can’t recall which one) via cargo container ships. Claimed there were nice tiny apt style accommodations if you had the right contacts and $$.
Coulda been a bs story but you know people love to brag about things so..could be true

Gail Combs

At least the judge has the good sense not to turn him loose. Other wise he would disappear over the border into Mexico or catch a ride on a Chinese ship returning to China.

Molly Pitcher

Loved his atty’s explanations for things…like aw gee, it’s all a big misunderstanding

Mandy

Oh.

Molly Pitcher

A young girl believed to be from India was found dead on the U.S. side of the border in Arizona Wednesday, and authorities say she was likely forced into making the remote crossing by smugglers.
Two adult women from India who were apprehended said they were part of a group of five that had been brought to the border by smugglers then ordered to cross in the desert west of Lukeville, a border crossing point.
The group got separated, the two women said.
Border Patrol agents went looking for the other three and quickly found the remains of the dead girl. Based on the information from the women, they believe the girl was 7 years old, and also from India.
Another young child and an adult woman are still missing, though agents said they spotted footprints and believe the two may have headed back to Mexico.
Reports of deaths of migrants during the journey across the border have surged in recent weeks — though they get far less attention than deaths that occur of migrants in U.S. custody.
Last week in Texas, smugglers driving a Chevrolet Suburban with 18 illegal immigrants in it crashed the vehicle.
Six of the migrants died, and nine others had to be rushed to the hospital.
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When the Euro invasion started I never dreamed that it would happen here but the Dark Ones had it financed and planned for the US too. Who would;ve ever thought our own elected representatives would sell out our country?
I knew they were a greedy corrupt lot but facilitating an invasion ??? Still gobsmacks me

Mandy

You know about the Kalergi plan, right?
That’s what they’re doing. It’s what they’ve BEEN doing.

Molly Pitcher

Yeah I knew about it but being the Pollyanna I am…really I thought Americans were different..that even Democrats, even shiity Repubs…I thought it wouldn’t happen here. All of these traitorous fools who a few short yrs ago were staunch border supporters..now…

Deplorable Patriot

And there’s some international commission that has taken it upon themselves to open the gates any time they want.