Dear KMAG: 20190811 Open Topic

 


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2nd Amendment Sunday

Well, it’s really quite the hot August and there are a lot of chores to be done around our place. To be honest, the number of really excellent threads inspires me. To not be very wordy. To allow for some strong conversations here…

Let Trump’s Base Speak [on gun control]…


Not to mention the conversations here…

Top 10 Reasons Red Flag Laws Are Bad For America



We are not alone in the fight. We have one another. We have the patriots. We have our Lion PDJT. And we have One greater than every enemy around us.


We have examples of how this works.


So let’s do this!

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cthulhu

We have a weird thing we do where we frequently schedule a subvacation to a vacation. Recently, we were going to do a Vegas vacation and decided to subvacation to Bryce Canyon and Zion for two days. We spent one day at Bryce Canyon…..and for the second day totally blew-off Zion and went to Bryce Canyon again. If you’ve never been there, go — and prepare to be amazed.

cthulhu

…..and the Bryce Canyon photo is gone……

cthulhu

We were thinking “one day Bryce, one day Zion, loop around and back to Vegas.” The drive to Bryce started getting surreal as we approached the park. Y’know the weird rock formations at Disneyland’s “Big Thunder Mine Train” — they were copied from nature. There are outcroppings of red rock with those features a while before you get to the park — and when we were driving across a flat section with chapparal, we spotted some pronghorn grazing about 15 yards off the road.
There are tourist guides and such that describe Bryce, itself — but I’ll just say…..we have been amply rewarded over the years from our “subvacation” quirk, but this extended day-trip from Vegas was one of the most striking.

BAM

33 years ago, we also did a side trip to Bryce. We were almost there when the bearings went out on our VW vanagon. Got towed back to Cedar City, and dropped off at a motel. Everyone we came into contact with was so helpful. We changed hotels the next day, walked a few blocks with our 3 children, all carrying stuff, including the 3 year, old to an older, but nice (and cheaper) motel. After the bearings were fixed we went back up to Bryce Canyon. It is stunningly beautiful. That was part of a very memorable vacation.

cthulhu
cthulhu

OK, it’s only referenced on the main page, but not in the post — in the post, it’s only the header. I’ll just go sit in the corner and rock.

cthulhu

Thank you for a lovely post, T3 — I just went zoink on that first image because it brought up happy memories. And thank you for the additional images — believe me, in daylight, the earth is as scenic as the sky photos at night.
Should any of you find occasion to visit — and I hope you do — be aware of one subtle thing. The rim of the canyon is on a plateau at about 10,000 feet. If you are used to hiking trails that go between 1000 feet and 1200 feet and back, doing a trail that goes from 10,000 feet to 9,800 feet and back feels about the same……if you were hauling a 60 lb. sack of sand. You don’t feel the altitude standing still, but climbing requires effort that you might not expect.

pgroup

And bring your Imogen portable oxygen concentrator.

Cuppa Covfefe

Reminds me of the old days of carburetors and non-electronic ignition, where we’d have to de-tune the motor when driving through the “high country”… Ahhh, those were the days 🙂
(Rabbit Ears Pass, for one)…

thetinfoilhatsociety

You need 3 months not one week.

NYGuy54

love this stuff..thx T3

B.b.S.s.Saint

Glad to see you are doing OK and stopped by the prayer wall at Marica’s. God is good all the time!

NYGuy54

Doing great. Very thankful for that.

B.b.S.s.Saint

That is a big AMEN!

drillerelite

I used to live about an hour from Bryce canyon, it is breathtaking

kea

Here It Is… Complete List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously or Committed Suicide Before Testimony, Including Jeffrey Epstein
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/here-it-is-complete-list-of-clinton-associates-who-allegedly-died-mysteriously-or-committed-suicide-before-testimony-including-jeffrey-epstein/
I’m sure the list is much longer.

kea
mandy

The people are being manipulated so badly, it’s truly evil what those who run the media are doing.

wheatietoo

Beautiful Header Picture, TTT.
Love it.
😀🥰👍
Great thread post, too…2nd Amendment Sunday, indeed.
It is sooo important!
It’s the cornerstone that our Freedoms depend on.

wheatietoo

“The 1st Amendment…is backed up by the 2nd Amendment.”
https://twitter.com/mel_faith1/status/1160142160009814016?s=20

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And remember that the SECOND is backed up by the FIRST AMENDMENT!
THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS THE NRA’S BIGGEST WEAPON!
THE NRA *IS* A FIRST AMENDMENT ORGANIZATION BACKING UP THE SECOND
AND WE MUST *NEVER* *EVER* ALLOW *ANY* LEGAL SPEECH
TO BE USED AS A REASON TO INFRINGE
ON OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS
Republicans must MAKE SURE THAT ANY RED FLAG LAW…..
– PROTECTS ALL THINGS PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT
– EXPLICITLY PROTECTS ALL LEGAL SPEECH, INCLUDING “HATE”
– EXPLICITLY PROTECTS ALL RELIGIOUS AND SECULAR BELIEFS
– EXPLICITLY PROTECTS ALL LEGAL ASSOCIATIONS
– EXPLICITLY PROTECTS ALL LEGAL ACTIVITIES
– ALLOWS PUNITIVE DAMAGES FOR ABUSE

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

In fact, any “red flag law” which infringes on our First Amendment rights by allowing IMPLICIT COUPLING of FIRST AMENDMENT INFRINGEMENTS to “granting” of SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS must be declared unconstitutional.
Red Flag laws must EXPLICITLY PROTECT THE FIRST AMENDMENT, or be regarded as IMPLICITLY BIASED AGAINST IT.
There we go. “IMPLICIT BIAS” works for US, too!!!

mandy

WTF is this shit “LEGAL SPEECH.”
That, sir, is another CAVE.

Cuppa Covfefe

Legalese.
Look it up.

cthulhu

Incidentally……
(1) regarding natural wonders, Oregon’s Silver Falls State Park is utterly mind-boggling, and almost certainly is the inspiration for a whole bunch of Disney. It features “The Trail of Ten Falls” which is an aggressive day but passes 10 real waterfalls — about half of which it goes behind. https://oregonstateparks.org/index.cfm?do=parkPage.dsp_parkPubs&parkId=151 — and recommended for anyone’s bucket list. Just don’t go there when it is raining or you can get your silly a** killed.
(2) regarding subvacations, we had an awesome one where we took the train to Edinburgh from London. I’d first visited London when I was 15-years-old (’78?) with a college group, and two of the girls in our group did that. When they rejoined the group, they were so stoked at having had such a great experience……now, mind you, many of us who remained in london also had great experiences…..
(3) you can also plan a trip where the subvacation is really the driver. We structured a trip to Saint Petersburg, Russia, for 10 days as a subvacation to a trip to London in 2008. This let us deal with a lot of the international hassles/jet lag/currency exchanges/luggage issues/laundry in a relatively known and benign environment and really enhanced the time we spent in St. P. When the Icelandic volcano eruption disrupted air traffic in Scandinavia, it also gave us options for doing a graceful exit.
A major part of the subvacation thing is that there are so many places that you wouldn’t travel 3000 miles to see, but that you might travel 200 miles to see. So if you are going to travel 3000 miles anyway, shouldn’t you visit all the things within 200 miles of that, since you’ve already spent the money?

cthulhu

Suggestion for weekly thread — “what special places do you know?”

andyocoregon

I’ve always maintained there are plenty of interesting places to vacation right here in the United States and that includes Alaska and Hawaii. There is no need to travel to Europe or Asia to experience wonderful sights and meet interesting people. And anyone who voluntarily travels to Africa, well, good luck with that.

cthulhu

Saturday night, I was attending a talk by Ad Konings at the Pacific Coast Cichlid Association regarding the haplochromines of Lake Tanganyika. Lake T is the sixth largest, second deepest, and second oldest lake on the planet. There have been several instances where the lake’s water level has declined to where there are two or three independent basins — which has contributed to the fantastic level of speciation within the lake. There are more different types of fish found only in this one lake than in the entire Atlantic Ocean. (Not to get too cocky — there are more types of fish found within the Amazon River basin than the Atlantic, as well.) Lake T has sponges, crabs, and jellyfish found nowhere else.
Africa gets a bad rap as a travel destination because humans evolved there along with several carnivores and parasites, and these creatures have a genetic disposition to continue to regard us as food.
Mind you, I might well react to you travelling to Mali with, “are you out of your mind?” But there are many places in Africa that I’d love to visit.

Teagan

Cthulhu…ironically, i’ve Been ALL the places you’ve Just mentioned (although it sounds as though you may have had a bit more fun on a few of them! (Did the London to Edinburgh trip with my mother, for example! LOL)
Grew up near Silver Falls Park..just took it’s beauty for granted at the time. Any of you still buying “real” Christmas trees…take a look at the tag next time. It may have come from Silverton, Oregon, location of the Park. The harvest with helicopters!
Although I don’t travel as much as I once did, I always have a couple of “rules”…one, is that I look upon the trip as though I may never have the opportunity to return so I should take full advantage of it (subvacations). I will not miss that extra few hundred dollars a year from now by paying for a side trip nearby.
And, second, along those same lines…I make the trip long enough to make the expense worthwhile. If the plane fare to Tokyo is $1500, i’m definitely not going for a week. I took shorter vacation trips when I had limited vacation days and saved the longer one when I had more control of my time.

cthulhu

We all take where we are for granted, while there are wonders all around us. California has the world’s tallest tree (coast redwood, seen [now fallen]), the world’s oldest tree (bristlecone pine, not seen), the world’s most voluminous tree (sequoia, not seen), the world’s largest animal (blue whale, not seen), the nation’s lowest point (Death Valley, not seen), the highest point in the lower 48 (Mt. Whitney — seen, not summitted)…….and most of its inhabitants wander around aimlessly, texting with their eyes on their phone screens.

cthulhu

When you assess things realistically, all of God’s creation is a delightful wonder.

Sadie Slays

Youtube is doing weird things to Tucker Carlson videos. If you search for “Tucker Carlson 8/9/19”, every video in the search results is only 0:01 long. If you change the date to 8/719 or 8/8/19, you get the same 0:01 videos. If you search for just “Tucker Carlson,” you get the usual fake news complaining about him.

wheatietoo

Yep, I’ve noticed this too, Sadie.

pgroup

That happened to me with Rush but only one time. I use my Windows XP notebook to download vids at the local Subway which has hi-speed internet.

Dora

This is a happy story. Just 2 years ago federal officials were making plans to euthanize the wild horses and burros.
====
Long Island Advocates Optimistic That Federal Agency Considering Rewilding Wild Horsescomment image
Long Island-based animal advocates working to save troubled wild horses out West are optimistic now that a recently passed federal spending measure includes a provision for rewilding, or returning wild horses to nature.
https://www.longislandpress.com/2019/08/09/long-island-advocates-optimistic-that-federal-agency-considering-rewilding-wild-horses/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

pgroup

So if they compete with cattle, or cause property damage, then private citizens get to do the culling. Clever.
I seem to remember that those ‘wild horses’ are not indigenous to The West. Not sure though.

NebraskaFilly

They were brought here by the Spaniards.
https://www.answers.com/Q/Who_brought_the_first_horses_to_the_US
Then again…..maybe not?
“Modern horses, zebras, and asses belong to the genus Equus, the only surviving genus in a once diverse family, the Equidae. Based on fossil records, the genus appears to have originated in North America about 4 million years ago and spread to Eurasia (presumably by crossing the Bering land bridge) 2 to 3 million years ago. Following that original emigration, there were additional westward migrations to Asia and return migrations back to North America, as well as several extinctions of Equus species in North America.
The last prehistoric North American horses died out between 13,000 and 11,000 years ago, at the end of the Pleistocene, but by then Equus had spread to Asia, Europe, and Africa.
Animals that on paleontological grounds could be recognized as subspecies of the modern horse originated in North America between 1 million and 2 million years ago. When Linnaeus coined the species name, E. caballus, however, he only had the domesticated animal in mind. Its closest wild ancestor may have been the tarpan, often classified as E. ferus; there is no evidence, though, that the tarpan was a different species. In any case the domesticated horse probably did not arise at a single place and time, but was bred from several wild varieties by Eurasian herders.”
https://www.livescience.com/9589-surprising-history-america-wild-horses.html

andyocoregon
kalbokalbs

Wild horses, burros…quite common in Nevada. An estimated 2,000 roam Lyon county.
Last Sunday heading out to plink in the desert, slowed for a small herd of sorts…comment image
Below pic a few months back as I headed out to the desert….comment image
Horses are good neighbors, although they never clean up after themselves;-)
All pretty cool by me.

GA/FL

Composted horse manure is great for roses, so I hear. I guess you could call those horse droppings love gifts.

Teagan

Any of you old enough to remember traveling circuses? When they came into a town, people would line up with various containers/bags to get the elephant manure for their gardens.
Now,..who knows if it was really true about it being great for the flowers but it was very clever psyops on the part of circus management so they didn’t have to pay for the animal poop to be hauled away. Heh heh
A bit OT, but I saw the sea weed problems they are having in Miami right now. Again, sea weed is very common on the coasts of the NW and in years past, people would take trash bags to the beach to gather seaweed for their gardens.
If you take the commuter train into Santa Fe, chances are you’ll see herds of wild horses in the countryside. Beautiful sight!

churchmouse

PDJT on El Paso and Bill Maher:

GA/FL

Whappp!!!!

churchmouse

PDJT on Scaramucci. He’s not terribly happy:

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Soooo glad he bitch-slapped the Mooch!! He got too big for his two-faced britches. He can go back to the View and cry with the hags!!

GA/FL

Yesterday, another zebra butterfly came to my garden.
Today, an orange butterflycomment image
…and a little pair of Sulphur butterflies are back – These migrate from South America. They come to my flower beds every year. Sometimes they land on my hands when I’m working out in the yard.comment image

GA/FL

When the sulphur butterflies come, Fall will soon be in the air. I sure hope so – this summer has been so hot and humid.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

All the climate screechers can kiss my grits!! This has actually been one of the “coolest” summers we’ve had in many many years!! We had unusual weekly rain showers in June and July. And it officially hasn’t hit 100 yet in mid August! We normally see 100+ in July, continuing through September. So I am not complaining (as much), nor am I jumping on the global freeze bandwagon!!😊😊

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

BEAUTIFUL GF!! 😍😍😍 I actually caught a glimpse from a 30ft distance of my huge yellow and smaller orange “cousins” last Friday! 😉

churchmouse

Abso-fruitin-lutely.

churchmouse

PDJT on the media:

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I LOVE THIS MAN – HE FIGHTS!

churchmouse

TOTALLY!

crossthread42

GOOD MORNING
The Misses & I are beyond Humbled ..
We “reached” Our Goal with your Help Dear Lord.
Friends, that We’ve never met in Person, restoring our Faith in Humanity AND #America for Which She Stands..
Oh Dear Lord, I kneel, before You.. I am coming to realise how dangerous pride is in the life of a believer and how important true, godly humility is to the heart of God.
AMEN
David & Angie

Nor'easter

crossthread42,
Can you please re-post the go fund me link?

pgroup

Your faith has rewarded you.

bakocarl

. . . and us.

andyocoregon

I’m still waiting for someone to send me a million dollars. Are there no magnanimous multi-billionaires on this blog willing to make my day?

pgroup

No. Try OT.

GA/FL

Perfect! LOLOL!!!!

andyocoregon

I would, but I’m banned from there, ha ha.

smiley2

hi honey there you are again…the Million Dollar Man, lol…
but you got to speak up about it…sometimes you got to…comment image
😀 <3
and…remember to call me .

andyocoregon

“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”
“If you don’t ask, you’ll never know”
“You Have Not Because You Ask Not”
“Money – that’s what I want”

crossthread42

Andy, please send Me a personal E-mail crossthread @ ec(dot) rr .com ..

andyocoregon

You’ve got mail. Sent at 4:32 pm PDT.

duchess01

Verse of the Day

“…I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.”
2 Timothy 1:12 (KJV)

duchess01

comment image

duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

B.b.S.s.Saint

Amen and so many answered! Thank you Lord for Your provision for David and Angie.

duchess01

Amen and Hallelujah!!!

duchess01
duchess01

Sunday Blessings in the Bin – Please – Thanks!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Looks like they got through below – sorry – not me, I promise!

duchess01

NP, wolf – I can guarantee the Sunday Blessings land in the bin – why? satan hates God blessing us!

JasonD

Respect for the rule of law is just about gone ….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dNZyls7F4U

thetinfoilhatsociety

It’s quite sad that a Canadian citizen has to point this out.

duchess01

Jesus Loves Babies…Pray for the Unborncomment image
Jesus Loves the Little Children…Pray for the Little Children
http://byronbayphotographer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/inspiration-jesus-and-children-picture.jpg
Jesus Loves You…Run to Himcomment image

bakocarl

Much better third picture!
“Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

duchess01

Thanks, carl – it was requested – beautiful scripture verse – a poem in the offing?
God Bless You!!!

duchess01

RUN TO JESUS – FRANCESCA BATTISTELLI – 04/05/2019

mandy
duchess01

Another good one, mandy! Thanks for posting!!!
God Bless You!!!

mandy

🙂

singingsoul1

Amen and so true.

andyocoregon

Jesus!

GA/FL

Heat Index™ in N FL today – 111 degrees and tomorrow 110 – that is just summer weather – not Climate Change™
Back in the old days, before the official Heat Index, we just called it Hot N’ Humid with scattered afternoon and evening thunderstorms!

NebraskaFilly

Weird weather here in NE – some of the leaves on my cottonwood tree are already turning!!!! Projected high over the next few days only 80 and down to 58 for Tuesday night. This is NOT a typical Nebraska August!!!!

GA/FL

The weather changes. I wore wool clothes about 10 years ago in S GA and N FL, but not the past year or two.

NebraskaFilly

Clearly. We don’t get nearly the amounts of snow we did when I was growing up.

Dora

It was in the fifties on Long Island this morning. Not exactly the “Dog Days”.

Deplorable Patriot

In STL, it’s been far more temperate than not this year. Hot and humid, but not over 100 degrees with 90% humidity and haze. It’s a nice break, actually.

Dora

OMG! Is he playing the role of Pope?
https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/1160144766245277697

Dora

I love this man. 🙂

nikkichico7

Ok Dickie, can you bark like a chihuahua at your masters command … 😑🤚 🤢 …
http://kimballstock.com/pix/DOG/05/DOG_05_MQ0071_01_P.JPG
Stuff it ..

Dora

Both democrats and republicans are doing a lot of traveling this year. I wonder how much it cost us so far.

pgroup

It’s expensive to keep them out of our hair. But is it worth the price, for temporary peace of mind? YMMV.

Dora

You have a point. 🙂

Concerned Virginian

Looks like LOTS of the comments on the Twitter feed are ROASTING McCarthy for taking yet another boondoggle trip that WE, THE PEOPLE, are paying for.
I wonder if he invited “OMAR”ELMI and TLAIB to go on this trip. Ha!

Teagan

They are probably with Pelosi in Honduras right now. Sandy Cortez, as she was previously known before transforming into her AOC persona, can interpret for them.

NYGuy54

So with anti-semitism surging in the US, a trip to Israel by leadership bothers you?

NYGuy54

To be clear, the surge is coming from the left.

NYGuy54

Cloward Piven technique to demoralize the population and pit us against each other.

andyocoregon

I hope they’re staying away from the Jerusalem Old City area where there have been serious clashes between moslems and Jews.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/muslim-worshippers-clash-israeli-police-jerusalem-holy-site-n1041161

singingsoul1

andyocoregon
“I hope they’re staying away from the Jerusalem Old City area where there have been serious clashes between moslems and Jews.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/muslim-worshippers-clash-israeli-police-jerusalem-holy-site-n1041161
_______________________________________________
Maybe they need to go there and visit to see first hand what Jews go through every single day in their own contry.

andyocoregon

They’d better where kevlar helmets and ballistic vests.

andyocoregon

“wear”

GA/FL

Shalom!!!
“Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
to the house of the God of Jacob,
that he may teach us his ways
and that we may walk in his paths.”
For pout of Zion shall go forth the law,1
and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
~~~
The LORD bless you from Zion!
May you see mthe prosperity of Jerusalem
all the days of your life!
May you see your nchildren’s children!
oPeace be upon Israel!
~~~
May all who hate Zion
be wput to shame and turned backward!
Let them be like xthe grass on the housetops,
which ywithers before it grows up,
with which the reaper does not fill his hand
nor the binder of sheaves his arms,
nor do those who pass by say,
“The blessing of the LORD be upon you!
We bbless you in the name of the LORD!”
Isaiah 2:3, Psalm 128, 129

kalbokalbs

Uniparty ought to visit their Districts / States for the entire vacation AND listen to We The People..
but no, they vacation around the globe…D-Rats and RepubliCONs alike.

NebraskaFilly

Last night, I posted some info from Diana West about AG Barr. I would like input from y’all – does it sound credible? Supposedly, this Terry what’s-his-name has been deemed credible by her and others. Will post the link again for those who didn’t read it:
http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3823/Deep-State-Rides-Again.aspx

JasonD

Sounds credible, does not mean it is true. Who the hell knows what is true, anyway?
Bill Barr is inept for allowing Epstein’s death. That is my current position, until hard facts emerge to change my mind. Of course, it is more likely that he is corrupt than inept, but I will give him the benefit of that doubt for the time being …

andyocoregon

I fully agree with you about A.G. Barr, but I do accept the fact Epstein is dead. There should be an autopsy soon and it will be interesting to see if they discover hand marks on his neck again.

singingsoul1

JasonD
“Bill Barr is inept for allowing Epstein’s death. That is my current position, until hard facts emerge to change my mind. Of course, it is more likely that he is corrupt than inept, but I will give him the benefit of that doubt for the time being …”
_________________________________________-
How is Barr inept that Epstein died?
What about if all the rules were in place and some underling was bribed or is mafia who got bribed and Epstein was killed or killed himself or had an heat attack.
Barr is not sitting in NYC overseeing Epstein he has to rely on people who are employed. The dirty offices were there before Barr got there maybe as long as the mafia has been in NYC.
Someone was prepared to take the hit and Barr has to find out who.
He is dealing with a corrupt FBI, DOJ and other Federal officials.
The system is broken was broken before POTUS got there before Barr got there.
I give Barr the befit until I see otherwise.

JasonD

It is easy to be a keyboard warrior and criticise others, as I have done. I am fully aware of this. Barr is the head of a critical institution that is in crisis – he has acknowledged this by appointing investigators to investigate Spygate.
Epstein was the biggest arrest with potential ties to one of the major sources DOJ corruption. POTUS himself pointed to Epstein BEFORE he was even elected. We all here knew this. We here also KNEW that Epstein was at risk, especially after the first attempt. Barr, as the head of the DOJ, oversaw this CATASTROPHIC failure of the DOJ.
I do not blame POTUS. He was constrained in his possible appointees in that they had to be confirmed by the Senate Oversight committee. The fact that Barr was acceptable to Senators Burr and Warner is all one has to know about Barr. POTUS is playing against a stacked deck – I forgot HOW stacked it was.

Tonawanda

If true, the Barr appointment and other similar appointments suggest either that Trump’s allies in military intelligence were not as savvy as previously thought, or that for practical political purposes Trump has been forced to accept enemies into his administration and hoped to finesse them.

NebraskaFilly

Personally, I would vote for the latter. I just can’t see people like Tony Shaffer being unaware of this or someone like ADM Rogers.

Linda

I seem to remember Q saying that there are some who were forced to do things in the past they didn’t want to do and are now working to destroy those who put them in that situation. Think about what people will do when their family is threatened. The cabal knows how to push people’s buttons.

Teagan

This was my thought in regards to the latest potential “shooter” at a Walmart in Missouri. Turns out he has a Ukranian/Russian name. He just became a father a few days prior to the incident. He gave no resistance to being arrested at all. I’ve not read about any hate groups, manifesto, Antifa-related activity. AND, there has been no follow-up stories at all!
My personal suspicious cat tells me there’s a very good chance he was threatened/blackmailed (new baby and wife?) and forced to do this to continue the current narrative by the left. Guess after Epstein’s death they no longer needed the “look,,squirrel!” distraction. Just a gut feeling, but goes along with your comments, Linda.

pgroup

He sure didn’t act like a crazed mass murderer IMO.

Deplorable Patriot

Revenge, or getting to set things right. I would imagine Barr would be in that position given that he left public service for as long as he did.

NebraskaFilly

I am floundering here and would appreciate your insight. Hell, I don’t know WHAT to believe any more! IF this is true about Barr, we are sooooo royally screwed!

NebraskaFilly

TY

TheseTruths

Diana West is an excellent writer, but I am turned off by her tone in that piece.
Yes, that William P. Barr, the man now poised to become Donald Trump’s Attorney General if he can just pledge deep enough fealty before the U.S. Senate to an unelected and unaccounatble super-dirty super-cop and Barr best friend, Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
Pres. Trump had a true-blue conservative in Jeff Sessions, and he didn’t get the full job done. I personally am not qualified to pick the right person for the job of AG. I know that, during the campaign, Trump said he knows some people who are maybe not the best, but they can get the job done (whatever the job is). He is a master at using people for specific purposes.
IMO, if we wait for the perfect person to come along, we wait forever. This was evident during the campaign as well when Trump wasn’t “conservative enough” or “Christian enough” or even experienced enough. Yet he was the right person. For me, it comes down to whether I trust the decisions he is making, and I do.

BAM

Found a video “interview” of Terry Reed, it appears to be a little older. I deliberately put the quotes around interview. It sounds like the interviewer’s part is dubbed in. It is interesting though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H01_dY6atfc

NebraskaFilly

TY

BAM

YW!

A Fortiori

I haven’t read the West piece, but with what PDJT is trying to accomplish, Attorney General would be one of the most important jobs in his administration. PDJT would not have been successful in his prior life, and will not be successful in his current job, if he cannot hire the right people. I therefore trust Barr because PDJT hired him.
That said, I also think it is entirely possible that the rumor swirling around when the envelopes were handed out at George Bush’s funeral may have some credence — namely that PDJT cut a deal with W to obtain W’s cooperation, that a component of that deal protects people who are important to W, and that Barr was hired in part to ensure that PDJT holds up his end of the deal. Following this logic, Barr may not pursue some deep state actors as vigorously as we would like because they are being protected in order to allow a path to confront bigger and more important deep state actors.

NebraskaFilly

This is true – I do trust PDJT so I will adopt a wait-and-see position – again.
I must admit – in no way was I prepared for this wild ride when I jumped on-board the Trump Train. SMH – in spite of everything I have learned over the years, I am still fully capable of being shocked. The depth and breadth of the evil is just so hard to comprehend…..and I have always had a problem dealing with “gray” areas. In my mind, something is either right or it is wrong, with no in-between. Unfortunately, that is not how the world works – if only it truly were so simple.

Teagan

I hear you, NF….perhaps we were raised too trusting of others. I was alluding to this in an earlier post.
Grew up in a very rural, multi-generational farming community where you went through 12 years of school with the same families and you relied on each other. Sure, there were “warts” but everyone knew about them and made allowances.
Contrast my hubby grew up in a NE city with lots of ethnic “turf” and it was not the survival against nature and the land but rather survival in a city. You didn’t trust nor rely on many, other than “my people.” You often lived a driveway apart from your neighbors for 30 years but you were never in each other’s houses.
Makes it difficult to deal with those grey areas you speak of and the complexities of politics. Kind of makes me wish I was back on the farm, at times! That’s why those recent magnificent photos of Montana, Utah and the beauty and simplicity of nature makes my heart yearn.

NebraskaFilly

That is why I bought a home here – even Norfolk is too big for me now.
I know exactly what you mean about living a driveway apart. We lived next door to a couple in Manassas for 2 years and I never once even saw them! I grew up just as you did – my A-Mom was a long-time, well-loved teacher (1st & 2nd grade) and my A-Dad was a mail carrier, then later Postmaster in Wayne, NE.
Still, to this day, literally everywhere I go, at some point, I run into someone who knows someone in one of my families, whether birth or adopted. It is inevitable! Had someone come into the store last week who knew my long-estranged cousin from Leigh, NE. In fact, he was the one who told me that my aunt had died in March of this year. She was the last (and the oldest) of 4 kids.
Something else kind of weird – of those 4 kids, only one had children who were very successful (minister, parochial school teacher, etc.) and also had children of their own.
Truly a small, small world in small-town NE!

pgroup

It WAS that simple in the Garden of Eden … and they still messed it up. Humans can screw ANYTHING up, if they so desire.

CM in TN

I have heard this before. My aunt sent me an article a while back when he was first nominated, but I no longer have the link. I just take a wait and see approach. It could very well be true, but I am more interested in what he does here and now. Trust, but verify.

NebraskaFilly

TY for the input. It all helps me to get back on an even keel again.

NebraskaFilly

Hmmm….OANN discussion on Epstein – brought up the point that the government can now no longer attach his assets!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very interesting!
OANN is a godsend! So much great stuff on there!

Tonawanda

The death of Epstein was a huge demoralizing event for our side.
The death sent three unmistakable messages:
1) Justice for the elites will not be done;
2) Trump is not in control;
3) The elites arrogantly and disdainfully control the illusions which control our country.
The stark fact now is one of timing. There are 15 months until the election, which is a lot of time for a lot to happen.
But how much time is there for “something” to happen which definitively changes the equation in our favor?
I don’t know how much time that is, and theoretically it could be up until the eve of the election. More realistically, it would seem to be much sooner.
The famous 5m 48s statement of Trump posted in each of Wolf’s threads is the animating spirit behind the unique movement of Deplorables.
With Epstein, the perception of progress toward our goals has moved beyond “nothing is happening.” Now the perception is one of losing, leaving us with Perils of Pauline speculation. And maybe the Perils of Pauline is the movie we are watching, or maybe not.
Particularly worrisome are the many failed appointments, which may be and probably are perfectly explainable from a practical political point of view, but nonetheless reflect the actual reality, regardless of why. I read the condemnation of Scaramucci, for instance, and somehow the accepted “temporary hatchet man” explanation pales.
Things may look completely different tomorrow, for some reason.
But if the animating spirit of the Deplorable Movement is not revived, then the millions who uniquely voted because of the hope that their vote for this one instance now actually seemed to count, will have no reason to vote again.

JasonD

Yup, better laid out than I have.
To not at least have secured some sections of the DOJ by now is very demoralising. I don’t have the honour of being an American, and thus cannot vote, so I imagine my mood pales in comparison to patriotic Americans.
You continue to have my best wishes and support, for what little it is worth. The battle continues. Although the outcome was never assured, Q led us to believe that things were under some sort of control – that fairy tale will no longer fly …
Statements like “These people are stupid” and “We have it all” now looks to me like psy-ops directed AGAINST us …
The honey badger? Yah, right. It is apparently “appalled” …

NebraskaFilly

Well, I’m not ready to throw in the towel yet……I am not going to quit or give up, nor am I giving up on QAnon…..for now.

JasonD

I’m not giving up – I think I kinda implied that. Q can go and suck eggs until HARD facts emerge.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We’re gonna take some hits.
All of my theories of Q and Epstein are well-represented by “The Keystone fall out first, and FALL IT DID”. Whether it shattered on the ground, got moved to GITMO, or traded to Israel, it fell out and it’s gone.
BUT – and this is critical – we finally took it down. Huge operation.
If we traded him away, I hope it was for something amazing. I suspect we got more than just his control tapes.
If he’s dead, then we are going to have one huge hammer against Deep State and their assets. The key (COUGH) is making it public. BURN THEM BAD. Use the left to burn the left. BONFIRE OF THEIR VANITY.

JasonD

Sure, at least he got charged. That is something which would not have happened under another POTUS.
The joys of low expectations …
My admiration for Trump is undiminished. My admiration for his appointed officers has taken a massive hit. There would seem to be not enough good people to go around.
Keep up the good work, much appreciated 🙂

TheseTruths

I’m confused. You say, “My admiration for Trump is undiminished.” But on the Epstein thread, you said, “Trump is now running for re-election, which requires that he must be able to demonstrate that he in in charge of the Executive branch. That he is unable to demonstrate this at this LATE stage is a massive failure …” https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-meets-elvis-presley/comment-page-2/#comment-227731
I don’t see how thinking Pres. Trump is unable to demonstrate he is in charge of the Executive branch and that he has presided over a massive failure can be done with undiminished admiration.

JasonD

It is a massive failure of America – as a whole. I do not blame PDJT. At the time I wrote that, I had forgotten something crucial – that Barr had been approved by the Senate Judiciary Oversight committee headed up by the august Senators Burr and Warner.
POTUS is playing against a stacked deck and I forgot that Barr was one of the potentially marked cards. The Epstein fiasco all but confirms that Barr is compromised in some respect …

NebraskaFilly

It certainly gets tiresome being jerked back and forth, willy-nilly. Sometimes I just want to tear my hair out – it all leads one to be suspicious about literally everything! My poor, simple mind just can’t keep up with it all!
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply YOU were giving up but there are a LOT of people who just can’t begin to comprehend what is really happening and they reach overload very quickly. Stopped into the store where I work yesterday and my co-worker didn’t even KNOW who Epstein was!!!! And she doesn’t WANT to know! It is SOOOOO frustrating!

Tonawanda

I don’t believe anyone at QTH is anywhere close to quitting, giving up, or doubting either VSG or Q, nor do those things logically follow from an acknowledgement that MAYBE, apparently, the enemy has scored an incredible victory with Epstein’s death.

NebraskaFilly

I apologize – I am speaking from my inner frustration at all this BULL SHYTE!!!! This stuff about Barr has me reeling, TBH.

Tonawanda

Completely understandable! There is never a need (IMO) for NebraskaFilly to apologize for her interesting and respected posts!
My immediate reaction to Barr’s appointment was: you gotta be kiddin’ me. They he seemed to be OK. Now he appears to be who I thought he was (a Bush operative, through and through), although I could very well be wrong.

NebraskaFilly

LOL – unless someone is triggered! Then all holds are off! SMH

singingsoul1

My investment is in POTUS and the rest are all side kicks to me. This keeps me from emotional overload and I am able to detach myself.
Than there is my faith that is deep rooted insofar that not much shakes me.
I learned many years ago from a mentor not to emotional invest in things that are not in my control.
I have no control what Barr does or any of the other actors in government but I have control for whom I can vote.
I did not create any situation concerning Epstein his death or how Barr deals with the issue.
That comes then back to faith and hope and patience. I cannot say what would do because am not them.
I truly believe in heart that light overcomes darkness not of my timing but of God’s. “All will be well”

Deplorable Patriot

Amazing. Q said “they” wanted us divided. That’s exactly what is happening.
First off, legal minds have pointed out that with Epstein legally dead, whether he is or in some sort of legal protection safe house, the government has free reign to go through his assets at will. They no longer need a warrant or anything else.
Secondly, never forget that what we see/hear on the “news” is what somebody out there wants us to “know.” There’s a good chance this is a fabricated ruse to provoke a move from the other side. Likely…your guess is as good as mine, but I no longer believe that the truth is being broadcast by the mainstream media other than via Freudian slip.
Third, our side really should be claiming victory of sorts with the news of Epstein’s “suicide”. That method of death is being questioned as never before by people on all sides. Simply, more do not believe that news than do.
Fourth, the question really should be asked to what end such a high profile prisoner was being held in Manhattan rather than, say, Leavenworth. I’m now of the belief he may well have been bait for some sort of trap.
That being the case, I’m wondering if this is not watching meme theory being played out a la The Big Bang Theory episode. Two characters plant two stories among their friends and see which one spreads the fastest. Of course, it was the more outrageous of the two. “Jeffrey Epstein is dead” will be believed a lot faster regardless of method than he’s being held at an undisclosed location awaiting the next moves.

Tonawanda

Epstein’s death, or his life for that matter, is IMO totally irrelevant to the evidence collected from his home for anyone (meaning, most likely everyone except Epstein) did not have an expectation of privacy in the areas searched.
And second, Perils of Pauline may in fact be the movie we are watching, but whether it is or is not is a matter of sheer speculation.

andyocoregon

One beneficial aspect of his untimely death is now there can be no 4th Amendment challenge to the collection of evidence from his estate. He relinquished all his Constitutional Rights when he died.

Tonawanda

IMO there was never any search and seizure 4th Am rights which affected anybody but Epstein. What was obtained (IMO), for anyone but Epstein, does not affect anyone but Epstein.
It’s not a big deal, but the discussion about the effect of Epstein’s death on the utility of the evidence is totally irrelevant.

B.b.S.s.Saint

Off topic…but I wanted to catch you.Tonawanda, was it you that posted about the Shroud of Turin awhile back? If it was not you I am sorry for not getting the person correctly named. Anyway if it was you, I wanted to say I appreciated your in sights. Have you seen this?

singingsoul1

We only can be divided if we let them. We have choices.

Tonawanda

“Have you been outdoors in fresh air much lately?”
Lol … not sure what you mean!

mandy

I see no possibility of reviving that spirit. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: MILLIONS see Trump as having BETRAYED THEM. Betrayal is not something easily repaired.

mandy

*We* aren’t.
2020? Probably.

TheseTruths

Yup, doomed. 😩 But…
These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. – Thomas Paine, Dec. 23, 1776
http://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm

NYGuy54

lol..pretty good description..just like Wolf’s rollercoaster ride

mandy

“Patriotism” is the last refuge of a SCOUNDREL.”

TheseTruths

For a discussion of why that phrase should not be used lightly, without context, and of how it was being used against false patriotism, see here:
https://www.samueljohnson.com/qotw02q2.html#0630
If you think of patriotism as a negative, what do you believe in?

nikkichico7

.. 😫 …

😐

NebraskaFilly

WADR, then you aren’t “seeing” clearly. JMO – and yes, I do believe 2020 will be a landslide for PDJT!

mandy

I really want to understand how it is that some of you believe the loss of chunks of his base don’t matter at all WRT 2020. It was really close last time in multiple states.
Gaining a few percentage points amongst SMALL GROUPS (ie, black and hispanic voters) can’t make up for LOSING ground in the much LARGER group (original base).
So what IS it that y’all believe makes for a landslide in 2020? I don’t see anything even close to that coming to fruition.

NebraskaFilly

“It’s the economy, stupid.” PLEASE – I am NOT calling YOU stupid. But it truly does boil down to the economy overall, as well as immigration, and he is batting it out of the park on those issues, as well as others. The judges alone make it entirely worthwhile to have elected him!
I just think you are wrong about “losing a chunk of his base.” What he does with these Red Flag laws could make a big difference, however. I do have faith in PDJT that he will do his utmost to ensure ALL of our rights are protected.

Volgarian8301

What chunks of the base have been lost? Who are they gonna vote for….Kamala?….Bernie? 🙄
The base isn’t going anywhere except back for 4 more years

mandy

They’re not going to vote. At all.

andyocoregon

Is that what your crystal ball told you, oh great fortune teller?

Aubergine

You are conflating your own negativity with the mood of the electorate. I haven’t spoken to ANY Trump 2016 voter who doesn’t plan to vote for him in 2020.

Deplorable Patriot

The conspiracy boards told of vote fraud on election night to the tune of five states were outright stolen. When “they” went to steal Pennsylvania, they were stopped.
The internal polling in 2016 said landslide, hence Hillary’s team cancelling the fireworks show the day before the election. I think 2020 will be another victory, the question is how much is going to come out in the 15 months we have to go before it happens.

andyocoregon

President Trump has not betrayed anyone. Those who claim he has need to do a little more research before flapping their gums.

mandy

That’s EXACTLY the kind of comment that will ABSOLUTELY get them to come back out to vote in 2020, Andy!

andyocoregon

I think most Trump voters already have their minds made up to vote for him in 2020. And depending on who the Dems nominate next year, there could be a huge number of Democrat voters voting for President Trump. Many Dems are happy with the great economy and they know President Trump is responsible for it.

mandy

About your crystal ball….
lol….

andyocoregon

That was just my opinion. I didn’t state it as fact. Sorry, no crystal ball here. I wish I did have one, though. I’d ask it when I’m going to receive a million dollars.

mandy

I’d forgotten about you and your million dollars thing.
lol…..

singingsoul1

Mandy I do not feel betrayed by POTUS do you?
I am serious asking you. People negativity seem to have more influence on you and our positivity .
There are many voices and the secret is to discern the voices we listen too.
Ask yourself always the questions what is the motive of negativity against POTUS and who is spreading it and why?
I hope this helps a;; is going to be ok.

mandy

I know. It’s kinda like the movie “Titanic” – we already know who wins. 🙂

NYGuy54

well written Tona.

TheseTruths

I respect your opinion, but it is not mine. I do not agree that Epstein’s death sent the three messages you list. It’s way too early to know what will come of this. If you think Pres. Trump is not in control, then all is lost. I don’t share that view. We are in a war, and becoming demoralized and losing faith in our generals is exactly what the enemy wants. We can’t hand them that victory.

nikkichico7

I agree … screw that
F I G H T ‼️‼️‼️

nikkichico7

That post is response to thesetruths … fight .. ‼️

TheseTruths

🥊🇺🇸

nikkichico7

😉👍❤️🇺🇸❤️‼️

Tonawanda

I am not demoralized. Never said that and never meant that.

TheseTruths

I was responding to your saying this:
The death of Epstein was a huge demoralizing event for our side.
And then you listed these three negative messages:
1) Justice for the elites will not be done;
2) Trump is not in control;
3) The elites arrogantly and disdainfully control the illusions which control our country.

Tonawanda

Exactly. I never said I was demoralized, and I never meant that. Demoralizing events for our side, like the failure of a Republican Congress to support our President, or the failure of the Attorney General to have Epstein under personal, intimate observation 24 hours a day, is not demoralizing to me.
It disgusts me and angers me, but that only makes me more determined to win.
For many others (for instance, OT), the will to win has been sapped.

michaelh

Leftist word of the day:
ROLCON:
Short for “Roleplay Conservatives”
Definition: The process of a leftist acting as if they were conservative on social media so as to influence others with poor reasoning, incorrect facts, fake news, emotive outrage, and fallacious logic, rather than engaging in the square of public opinions with genuine compelling ideas.
See also: Fabian Leftcomment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ROLCON is a two-edged sword. I’ll bet that we compromise a lot of their “Stalwarts”, who see the light and #WalkAway toward it.
I like to tell people that I can “speak Progressive”. To be honest, I’m probably closer to a “classic liberal” than many here, although the only people who seem interested in defending the ROOT of classic liberalism – the Constitution and its enshrined Freedoms – are now “conservatives”. But I find that when I am around Progs, I feel a certain sympathy for them and their causes. And yet – OMG – they are so mind-controlled by the insanity of hard leftism, I feel like I need a shower afterwards.
I definitely see what Trump is doing – MANY GREAT THINGS – and one of them is making it SAFE for liberals to be SENSIBLE again. Jane Timken, who introduced Brandon Straka at the Cincinnati rally, gets this.
SO – send your “ROLCONS”, Brock – I will CONVERT THEM to TRUMP SUPPORTERS!!! 😀

Concerned Virginian

Notice that the point of the “correct messaging” is the word “currently”. That means their “correct messaging” is NEVER going to stay the same if it doesn’t fit their REAL goal of destroying the United States.
On the other hand, Americans who take the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights as the bedrock foundation of the United States, will ALWAYS have the true “correct messaging”.

michaelh

I know, let’s create a meme and call it “NPC”! They have to get their programming from somewhere…

NYGuy54

like this?comment image

mandy

lol!
(you did mean that as a joke because of all the NPC memes that were done months ago, right? If not and you’re unaware of the NPC memes done previously, my apologies and nevermind.)

Volgarian8301

Can we use it in our own threads? 🙄😁

ForGodandCountry

“As always, ROLCON”
Hmmmm.
IMHO, there are a few posters here who fit that description. Can you guess who I’m thinking of?
If so, do not reply with names here. Instead, send a PM to Wolf, like I will. If he gets multiple PMs from different people all naming the same person(s), then that would constitute strong confirmation.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA! You’re forcimg me to check the bin! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
LMAO! I’ve been neglecting it like it’s radioactive!

michaelh

That michael guy looks pretty suspicious to me

Rodney Short

Set back and enjoy the show,God is in control of this movement.
Hope everyone has a good supply of popcorn.

Teagan

I think I see what you are doing, Michael, and I agree. Call them as you see them…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Joe Biden GAFFE is going to undo the Parkland conspiracy.

Gail Combs

WOLFIE, Something of interest given the ‘activity’ in the past days.
I am now getting this pop-up

Privacy & Cookies: This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this website, you agree to their use.
To find out more, including how to control cookies, see here: Cookie Policy
CLOSE AND ACCEPT

So now the SITE wants to be able to TRACK ME?!??? ☹️
Also the page is now loading VERY VERY SLOW. Even when I just go to another tab to pick up that smiley.

NebraskaFilly

I think most sites do that now. Almost every one I go to has that statement and WP is the same. I don’t remember what started that but it was some months ago. I think that not accepting cookies would interfere with your ability to move about on the site. No doubt there is someone much more technically proficient than I who can explain it much better.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, the only way to be logged into WordPress or a WordPress site is cookies (small saved files of data for a particular website). Cookies have been around since the beginning days of web browsers, when saving settings on sites needed a strong and secure mechanism for doing it – a data-saving sandbox for the page. The problem begins with sites needing to share saved data. WQTH needs your WordPress.com cookies to log into WordPress. Sounds silly and simple and “of course”, but highly secure browsers make people “OK” the use of third-party cookies to prevent SPYING on your saved passwords and whatnot by OTHER SITES.

CM in TN

I have always had that message at the bottom of the screen. I just ignore it and never click it. I assume it uses them regardless as I am able to post, like, and all that.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WordPress is now “over-cookie-ing” people to make then suspicious of this site. They even do it to ME!!! I have to acknowledge cookies on this site almost every time I do a new post.
Stupid? No. EVIL.

NebraskaFilly

I sign in via WP and it pops up there then pops up again here.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The dichotomy of “cookies are good” and “cookies are bad” never resolves, because “cookies are necessary” is almost true, and “cookies are a demanded convenience” IS TRUE.

nikkichico7

I get the cookie 🍪 banner but I ignore it and let the bugger marinate in futility at the bottom of the page … “close and accept” or what …. 🤨⁉️

TheseTruths

I do the same.

nikkichico7

😉👍❤️‼️

TheseTruths

I have gotten that message on this site for ages.

Volgarian8301

“Those kids from Parkland” ….hmmm. Hard to read the attachment, but it looks like there were 2 besides Hogbreath? Would this have been done as part of a “field trip” through some club or class at school, or is he, as we suspect, older than high school age….who were the other visitors that shared the visit?

nikkichico7

… not kids … programmed enemy combatants … kids … m/a .. 🤨‼️

nikkichico7

The idea that these YOUNG COLLEGE students/actors infiltrated this high school in Florid is OUTRAGEOUS,
ARROGANT
Evil
and .. Insulting and disgusts me to the core the extent of damage these putrid blatantly evil bastards snaking around in our country are doing … when does jarrett get arrested for genocide …
I made it Ma Top of the world …
James Cagney, White Heat

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If we can get the MAGA journalists to look at this, I think there is some real red meat on this.
Beware that there is going to be a “cover” explanation for his being there, just like there was a “cover” reason for him being at CNN before the Parkland “event”.
FAKE NEWS is now BLOODY FAKE NEWS.

Volgarian8301

Was able to enlarge it enough to see a little better. Looks like 12 HR (?) time block….is that normal? Both the other visitors had been there previously, one of them, David Sullivan, had been 35 times.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Katica is the expert on visitor logs, and I believe that she once said they often don’t put an end time on visits, so they default to some large value.

Volgarian8301

That makes sense. I would be interested in who those other visitors are, especially the one with multiple visits🤔

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I just posted the question as an article. Maybe we’ll get an answer. I’ve also put this on Twitter in a few places. Let’s see if the left kills it. If they do, I’m calling it as real as if we get confirmation.

para59r

Biden said kids so lets not forget the pictures of Nellie Orr and Cameron Kasky.
By the way, the Kasky kid always seen the smarter of the two but he’s completely off the radar.
Maybe his FBI dad has other plans for him.comment image

para59r

One more for prosperity and incase anyone wants to Archive because, yes most pictures are now gone.comment image

para59r

Sorry meant this one.comment image?w=640&h=368

para59r

Correction: Kasky’s dad was adoption services dad and it was Hogg’s dad that is FBI Dad?

drillerelite

This made me chuckle 😄

nikkichico7

Oh that’s awesome …. bwahahahahahah .. 😜👍 .. bwahahahahahah

NYGuy54

Awesome. Ty Driller

drillerelite

👍

ForGodandCountry

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GA/FL

POMPEO sends a WMD-level tweet to Iran:

NYGuy54

Dry up Iranian support to Hamas and Hezbollah. Watch the ME conflict get resolved quickly. Just take a look at how many Hamas leaders are rich.

GA/FL

Good points, Mr. NYGuy! I❤️NYC! (and Israel)

pgroup

Issue a visa to each one and confiscate their wealth under the EO on terrorism asset forfeiture.

JasonD

Well, if the Epstein sh!t-show shows anything, it is that the swamp is more powerful than realised. That will no doubt stiffen many spines when it comes to any attempted inroads on your 2A via Commie Flag laws.
This government cannot protect an inmate under its direct care – how, pray, can they protect you?

thetinfoilhatsociety
Concerned Virginian

700WLW 10:30AM news report:
So now the (apparent) death of JEFFREY EPSTEIN is “being surrounded by conspiracy theories, including that Epstein was murdered.”
DeepState control of the MSM is going well. Anybody who says, for example, CLINTON BODY COUNT, is called out as a conspiracy theory nut.
DAN ABRAMS, a “legal expert” for ABC, was trotted out to make a statement that “OF COURSE, Epstein killed himself — and the real question is, who helped him?” (paraphrased)

mandy

Via Gab…
“Greg Johnson@Counter-Currents
A “conspiracy theory” is just a slur to stigmatize ideas that threaten establishment power. Epstein getting Epsteined destroyed the establishment’s taboo against “conspiracy theories.” No matter what the outcome of the Epstein case, the death of this taboo is a permanent gain.”

NYGuy54

One of the reasons Grandma had to be replaced. The UK now imports more goods from the US than any other country. POTUS offered her a better deal but she diddled around on it
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1UZ1BI?__twitter_impression=true

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup.
EU Globos HURT England with May, just like they HURT France with Macron. Not smart. People are waking up to the price of corruption and FAKE leaders.

NebraskaFilly

Hmmm….looks like Cleveland is in fine shape! (/s)
“Jackson refused to comment on his great-grandson’s arrest, but WEWS reported that he also recently refused to comment on his namesake grandson’s arrest, too.
Frank Q. Jackson Jr., 22, was arrested in May and recently pleaded guilty to charges of menacing, aggravated disorderly conduct, and attempted drug abuse, Cleveland Urban News reported.
The mayor’s grandson was also arrested on weapons charges in June of 2017 but had his record wiped clean by participating in a diversionary program for first offenders.
Neither the grandson nor the great-grandson are biological relatives of the Cleveland mayor, who has no children of his own.
They are the grandson and great-grandson of Jackson’s wife, Edwina, and therefore are they mayor’s step-grandchildren, Cleveland Urban News reported.”
https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/video-cleveland-mayor-s-family-member-arrested-for-shooting-at-cops-nSoP746wx0Sb-nDJwY6jIw/

mandy

One of our more dangerous cities, isn’t it?

drillerelite

“The mayor’s grandson was also arrested on weapons charges in June of 2017 but had his record wiped clean by participating in a diversionary program for first offenders.”
This is exactly what I mean when we’re talking about sensible background checks. His record of weapons charges wiped clean? Here’s this damned Diversionary Program again. Barring any other felonies this guy would be able to buy a gun, commit another weapons related crime then everyone would bemoan not having stronger gun laws, a scenario that has already played out time and again, no?
That’s the only change I want to see regarding backgrounds checks (unless we get rid of them completely) make sure criminals who should be are already on the list. There was another one not long ago where to Air Force failed to update the federal records of a serviceman who shouldn’t have passed the background. Bunch of crap that law abiding citizens have to get punished for their incompetence.
And get rid of gun free zones. It shouldn’t be complicated, especially when it come to our rights which Shall NOT be Infringed upon!
Am I missing something or are these diversionary programs stupid? It really stuck with me when Parkland, Muncie, etc. got all exposed.

NebraskaFilly

Diversion programs = reparations for racism. I would also like background checks to include all social media. How many of these whackjobs had posted indications of their delusions previous to their actions? Like the El Paso shooter.

drillerelite

You’d be able to find out a lot on social media, no doubt, and it should be obvious and easy to determine who may be a credible threat but which government bureaucrat do you want going through social media interpreting who should or should not have a gun based on their posts? When I scrolled through libtard responses on Twitter posts I’d red flag all those insane p.o.s’s. I’d sure like to be able to trust the FBI to have a handle on that though 😬🙄

NebraskaFilly

I understand your point but SOMEBODY has to do it. SMDH – THIS is the worst part, IMO, of where we are in this insanity – we don’t feel we can trust anyone who works for the government any more!!!! And yes, by design.
Grrrr…….I HAVE to get a Nerf football to throw around!!!! Otherwise, I’m gonna start smashing my dishes and they cost too much!!!

drillerelite

😄 mrs driller would prefer I don’t break dishes, again, either. Well, I hear more yardwork calling.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I am repeating this, because discussion was DISTRACTED by WordPress bullshit, and I’m not letting WordPress get away with it. This is how they DILUTE OUR MESSAGE.
People need to GET WISE to OFF-TOPIC as an interference with our work. So I’m not discussing that here, either (OFF-TOPIC). I want to discuss ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF PARKLAND by the Obama administration.
David Hogg was IN THE WHITE HOUSE while Obama was still there.
David Hogg was also AT CNN before Parkland.
Something is VERY WRONG HERE.

BIDEN is not “forgetting when things happened”.
BIDEN is forgetting WHICH THINGS NEED COVERING UP.

NYGuy54

very sharp Wolf. Thanks.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Might not be a bad idea. I’ve seen nothing on this except for people falling for the “Biden is senile” thing.
I have so many things I wanted to cover today, I’m getting buried as usual. I’m like THREE NEW POSTS BEHIND. I don’t have time to nurse a new post on this, TBH.
I think Red Flag Laws are the biggest threat right now. Getting them to explicitly protect First Amendment Protected Things (even HATE SPEECH) is more important.

BAM

Yes, Just post the 3 statements with the tweet with the 2 statements after it and let the community dig.

Volgarian8301

I commented up thtead, but it may have gotten lost in the cookie jar😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA! Thanks!

TheseTruths

“BIDEN is forgetting WHICH THINGS NEED COVERING UP.”
And I think he is forgetting which things came first. Biden is not able to keep things straight, but of course that is not the point. Correct me if I’m mistaken, but we never heard of David Hogg until after Parkland happened, right? What was he doing in the White House prior to Parkland? Even if he was already an anti-gun activist before Parkland, how did a nobody like him get to bend the ear of someone as high up as Valerie Jarrett?

NebraskaFilly

He isn’t a “nobody.” Father and, I believe, grand-Father were in CIA. I think his Mom also works/worked for CNN. Not remembering the details clearly right now.

NebraskaFilly

IOW, Deep State

GA/FL

Hogg, Kasky, and all the other CNN recruited Parkland teens and their families are all connected to TV, acting, and either law, law enforcement or FBI and all are leftist Democrats.

mandy

Yep – like that guy Strozk – GENERATIONAL work for the DS.

NebraskaFilly

I found that info in a Tweet and saved the link – now I can’t find it. SMH

TheseTruths

David Hogg’s wiki page says his father is retired FIB.

NebraskaFilly

OK – I knew it was intelligence.

Concerned Virginian

wolfmoon1776
So if JOE BIDEN is forgetting which things he has cover up, WHO will be “coaching” him to “stay on point”?
Or is there another aspect to this — actually ALLOW Biden to come off as “not ready for prime time” so the DNC does what it needs to do to produce their “real candidate” for 2020 — KAMALA HARRIS, perhaps?
Gut feeling that ties this into the Epstein “suicide” — may well be that the CLINTONMACHINE / Bush Cabal / ObamaVALJAR Axis was behind whatever happened to Jeffrey Epstein — in order to “clear the decks of that problem” so they can concentrate on 2020.

ForGodandCountry

Yep. And you’ve been all over it since day 1, too.

drillerelite

Another stone turned over? First I ever heard of this was when I saw your tweet this morning. Head spinning, “WTF?” I can’t wait to see where this leads.

nikkichico7

If Biden knew about parkland before it happened … he’s guilty the death of those kids as are all of them ..

singingsoul1

Do we have a thread concerning the Parkland shooting to focus on figuring this out?
Somehow every time I focused on the topic there is distraction at least for me maybe i am slow.
Maybe it is time for me to take a break.:)

nikkichico7

Yes there is thread for Hogg I think singing … 🙂❤️

Deplorable Patriot

BIDEN is not “forgetting when things happened”.
BIDEN is forgetting WHICH THINGS NEED COVERING UP.
DP comment: he’s either really going senile, or he’s having trouble keeping the lies straight and sorted out.

duchess01
ForGodandCountry

I can’t think of a good Montana song, so this will have to do for now…

duchess01

Oh, I love that song, FG&C!!! Is there a song about Montana?

NebraskaFilly

Dan Seals and Marie Osmond: “Meet Me In Montana”

NebraskaFilly

I sang this with my musician friend at karaoke at the Norfolk VFW. I sucked!

duchess01

Oooooooh! Thanks, Filly!!!

NebraskaFilly

YW

Dora
ForGodandCountry

Yep.
The only reason they wear masks is because they intend to break the law and don’t want to be ID’d.
Peaceful people don’t need masks.

Deplorable Patriot

At one point the autists on the chans were identifying them by their tattoos.
I have a friend who is active in politics who told me once that LE knows exactly who all the trouble makers are. They were being hamstrung from other arenas, and the ability of several of them to evade.

mandy

Wow. Did you know that all those crimes by immigrants against native Swedes are being caused by …. wait for it….
SOVIETS!!!! SOVIETS!!!! SOVIETS!!!
OMG I cannot believe we didn’t figure this out!
Thank GOD the NYT has cracked the case and we now know that immigrants were only raping Swedish girls (and chopping off a few heads here and there) because …
SOVIETS!!!! SOVIETS!!!! SOVIETS!!!!
https://vdare.com/posts/the-nyt-discovers-the-real-conspiracy-immigrant-crimes-in-sweden-are-kremlin-false-flags
(see especially the last line! lol!)

mandy

Via Gab:
“Educating Liberals
Verified Account@EducatingLiberals
It’s sickening I even have to say this, but expect another mass shooting or some other kind of false flag event this week to change the narrative away from Epstein again.”
mmmhhmmm, I agree.
Be safe, everybody.

Concerned Virginian

http://www.msn.com/
Credit to The New York Times
Well, apparently JEFFREY EPSTEIN was left alone in his cell, not closely monitored, and not looked in on every 30 minutes, all of which are violations of the MCC’s usual procedures.
The article also does the usual thing about “unfounded conspiracy theories”.

GA/FL
mandy

When the FCC is given control over internet speech in the US, the same – and worse – will be happening *here* ….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Red Flag laws need to EXPLICITLY PROTECT THE FIRST AMENDMENT, INCLUDING HATE SPEECH.
Convince me that I’m wrong. 😉

NebraskaFilly

Speaking of which, in my search for the Hogg Tweet, I ran across the link to this website that tracks Red Flag laws around the country – updated as of this month:
https://www.thetrace.org/2018/03/red-flag-laws-pending-bills-tracker-nra/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks!!! 😀

NebraskaFilly

They tried here in NE – IIRC, it was either never brought up or didn’t make it out of committee.
https://www.omaha.com/news/plus/red-flag-law-sought-in-nebraska-to-allow-authorities-to/article_31b162d1-0c99-5a8d-9551-6d0dde97b49b.html

Deplorable Patriot

What?! A hair style? As if they are worried about something that is actually important.

GA/FL

Remember – the UK are also defenders of Islamo-jihadis.

NebraskaFilly
LM

It is Sunday so I feel a little freer in sharing these thoughts.
I have been floored that there has even been the mention here of not voting because of the death of Jeffrey Epstein.
Truthfully, I was appalled by his death…and I believe he is dead. I hope not—but the evidence was pretty convincing.
The finality of death for a person who has not repented and accepted Christ is crushing for me to contemplate. As I looked at the helpless shell of a man whom I believe is now facing an eternity of anguish and black loneliness, I thought of the Clintons and all the people they have corrupted in their rise to power and wealth in this country.
It was known in this country that Bill Clinton was a liar and sexual predator when he first ran for national office. There were too many rumors about his sexual exploits in Arkansas that were made public then. But the gleeful press, enchanted with “spin” told us “character didn’t matter”. Many religious people knew what he was and voted for him anyway.
I thought Al Gore started out as a man with some vestige of a commitment to principles, but after Bill Clinton lied under oath and to the American people and was found out through Monica’s dress, Al Gore came before the American people and emphasized his support for Clinton and said that Bill Clinton was the best president we had ever had. I believed right then that he was lost.
Since then I have watched Al Gores personal and political demise. (BTW, I remember Al Gore saying these things but cannot find the quote even on DuckDuckGo.)
A whole nation also embraced and celebrated lies, knowingly looking the other way as they became part of the popular, man pleasing, money grabbing corruption of the culture of the Clintons.
Many kids rejoiced that oral sex was not sex and became convinced that the Christian lifestyle was hateful snd hurtful.
The Clintons brought Gulen to this country and accepted countless moneys from foreign Arabic countries. They opened the door to Islamic immigrants in a way we had never seen before, and they brought George Soros into our political system and started Moveon.org.
Imo, down the road to hell we went as Christians kept their head down and either voted Democrat or did not vote..holding out for a standard of perfection that I am not sure even Jesus would have met if He returned and ran for office.
Obama’s lies took us as a country to a whole new level of corruption, and we were well on our way to becoming an Islamic led satellite of a world wide caliphate…imo. He embedded our government agencies with members of the Muslim Brotherhood and did his best not only to transform our country, but the world.
Yet miraculously, we as a nation have been given a second chance…a chance to heal and escape hell on earth even as we put God first and act in faith and obedience to do the right thing regarding the country and the election.
Not voting, to me, is throwing one’s support to a reign of evil for which I believe those who choose this will have to give account..
World government is coming to Europe and we see the fruit of their capitulation to the worldwide influence of
Soros and the utterly corrupt left.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/08/nazism-returns-european-union-to-put-warning-labels-on-jewish-made-products.
My heart was heavy as I saw the demise of Jeffry Epstein as a type of those Jewish people who have empowered and enabled those who would destroy them rise to power.
What they are or have become is not the issue. It is to not stand by and do nothing as they (and we) fall victim to evil. Reread the story of the Good Samaritan. The Good Samaritan’s ACTIONS were what found favor with God.
Donald Trump is fighting for us on all of these fronts and keeping us out of agreements which would give hostile world powers dominion over us.
If we lose, we still win if we put our faith in God and do the right thing.

TheseTruths

Good post.
Not voting, to me, is throwing one’s support to a reign of evil for which I believe those who choose this will have to give account..
Yes. It is unbelievable to me that someone would choose not to vote. We who are not in positions of power to influence things directly have other things we can do — write and spread the word; make and disseminate videos and memes; contact Washington; organize protests, rallies, and the like; put up signs; and vote.
Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual – or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country. -Samual Adams in The Boston Gazette, 1781

NebraskaFilly

This refusal to vote – indeed, completely ignoring my civic responsibilities – for the first 50+ years of my life is exactly why I am so obsessed now with trying to make up for that failure.
I did not finish HS (GED 4 yrs later) and never took government, so (in spite of serving in the Army), I knew literally NOTHING about our government and our political system, nor did I particularly care. I never voted until after 9/11, and even then, I did no research on the people running for office – I just put my name under the “R” candidate and walked away, thinking I had done my duty, feeling good about myself.
Until Obama……as with many, I was pleased to see a black nominated for President – finally, we are over the racism, I thought – thankfully, I chose to do some research for the first time ever. All it took was reading a couple of his books and I KNEW he was very bad news, even speculating to my daughter at the time that he was THE Anti-Christ.
Now, I know, and I will do all I can, in whatever form it takes, to help right this ship!

TheseTruths

Thanks for sharing that. I understand that there are people who aren’t into politics, who don’t really know what’s going on, who don’t know enough to think their vote matters, etc. (You got “woke.” 😉) What I don’t understand is people of the knowledge level of those posting here who won’t vote.

mandy

http://voluntaryist.com/non-voting/
If you scroll down the page, you’ll come to a listing of a dozen or so articles on the topic of non voting.
🙂

MAGA Mom

Bush lies from both daddy bush and bush jr were just as harmful, if not more so, as Clinton, Gore and Obama lies. The lies of McCain, Romney and esp. the Bushes were incredibly armful to this country and yet Christians kept voting for them and some, even after showing their true colors in ’16, support and defend them.
Do not equate pandering to the churched to actually being a Christian with Christian ethics, morals and character in office.

NebraskaFilly

More so, IMO – we should be able to trust “our own.” We expect it from the dims!

mandy

“Benghazi Car Bomb Attack Targets UN Officials, Leaving 2 Dead & 10 Wounded
The expanding chaos of the renewed war in Libya, increasingly a ‘failed state’ if there ever was a prime example of one, now approaching a decade on from its so-called “liberation” in 2011 by US-NATO forces, keeps providing daily and weekly reminders of the Obama-Hillary Clinton legacy of ‘humanitarian intervention’.
On Saturday what is being reported as either a car bomb or possibly a roadside bomb ripped through a neighborhood in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi near United Nations offices.”
more at the link
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/un-officials-targeted-2-killed-deadly-benghazi-car-bomb-attack

Nor'easter
mandy

via Gab:
“Health RangerVerified Account@NaturalNews
#Republicans should reject #RedFlaglaws that are #unconstitutional attempts to grab #guns from innocent #Americans https://bit.ly/2YH18Qt

mandy

Question: will the Epstein autopsy be released? How does someone’s autopsy GET released? Aren’t those things private?

NebraskaFilly

I think it depends on each states’ laws – for instance, FL has an open-records law and Earnhardt’s widow had to petition for his autopsy to be kept private. IDK if Epstein had any family but, presumably, I think it would be up to his heir or the “estate.” I have no clue who that would be, tho. I would also think the “estate” now “owns” any monies that remained? I have no legal background so this is just speculation on my part.

NebraskaFilly

Hmmmm…..I am part of the QAnon Great Awakening FB group – they just replied to a comment of mine about 8chan and future Q posts as follows – what say you, QTreepers?
QAnon Great Awakening
“Judy Green negative. If anyone posts as Q from henceforth we will consider it as fake news.
Enjoy the show”

TheseTruths

Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about the chans.
I know that this Q page — https://qmap.pub — says this: “Note: when Q returns, we will get the posts. Avoid 8chan on zeronet as per CodeMonkey”
My understanding is that CodeMonkey is one of the ones in charge of getting the chan site going again (8chan? I don’t know.) He seems to be one of the trusted ones.
I get confiused about which forum is which and don’t know how the forum you mention ties in with the group that CodeMonkey is affiliated with.
I find it almost impossible to believe that Q would allow himself to be taken offline by circumstances not orchestrated by him.

NebraskaFilly

I read the same thing, which is why I was confused (hmmm….not hard to do with my simple mind!) by his/her comment. Agree!

Nor'easter

465
Jan 05 2018 16:18:47 !UW.yye1fxo Q
248629→
One post today.
No other platforms used.
No comms privately w/ anyone.
Don’t get lost.
Q

Gail Combs

DATA DUMP on THE HOGG…
Comments from OT. I linked the first in the series.
…..
NAVY IIRC is a Lefty TROLL! (Since Word Unimpress, pulled the cookies crap my computer now barely crawls… GRRRrrrrr And yeah I clicked to accept and it did not good.)

Navy says:
Navy says:
May 28, 2018 at 7:01 am
Takes about a 20 second web search to find this “child’s” meth arrest at age 26 two years ago…. also his daddy Kevin is an FBI agent. Also look up La Goblina the NYU GRAD / actress. 4chan did the work on these two. EXPOSED!
Katherine McCoun says:
May 28, 2018 at 8:38 am
The two do look similar but I don’t think its the same guy.
https://southcarolina.arrests.org/Arrests/David_Hogg_29601928/
nikkichico7 says:
May 28, 2018 at 9:04 am
He’s not a KID/CHILD the miserable POS is a grown man with 3 years of college and the sissy washed out ….. his parents are FBI this hogg person is a programmed asset for valarie Jarrett … (obumma is too stooped) … look up oracle this program mind psych’s the mentally troubled for school shootings … it’s all about 2A ….”>May 28, 2018 at 7:01 am
Takes about a 20 second web search to find this “child’s” meth arrest at age 26 two years ago…. also his daddy Kevin is an FBI agent. Also look up La Goblina the NYU GRAD / actress. 4chan did the work on these two. EXPOSED!
Katherine McCoun says:
May 28, 2018 at 8:38 am
The two do look similar but I don’t think its the same guy.
https://southcarolina.arrests.org/Arrests/David_Hogg_29601928/
nikkichico7 says:
May 28, 2018 at 9:04 am
He’s not a KID/CHILD the miserable POS is a grown man with 3 years of college and the sissy washed out ….. his parents are FBI this hogg person is a programmed asset for valarie Jarrett … (obumma is too stooped) … look up oracle this program mind psych’s the mentally troubled for school shootings … it’s all about 2A ….
phoenixRising says: May 28, 2018 at 1:02 pm
“… Hogg’s classmate (and valedictorian) is Kyle Kashuv has not mentioned anything about Hogg not be a classmate. In fact, Kashuv has challenged Hogg to debate Second Amendment issues.
There is NO evidence to prove your claim that Kyle is Hogg’s classmate. Over 3,000 students attend the school in Parkland. Kyle has never stated he knows/knew Hogg, or that he knows Hogg was/is in the class of 2018. There has been no proof offered by anyone else. We do know that the Gonzales girl who appears on camera in the beginning of the incident at Parkland is Hogg’s cousin (her mother is Hogg’s mother’s sister) and that her claim to presently be a student at Parkland is a lie as she has already graduated college! There is much proof online to substantiate this.
We know that Kyle is a member of the class of 2018 as we have seen his tweet with notice from school that he, Kyle, is FIRST in the class.
There is evidence online regarding Hogg’s parents, his father is ex-FBI. His Mother is VP for CNN. Reddit has many posters who have spent hundreds of hours researching Hogg and the Parkland incident.
Posters have done more than “observe” as you state you have. I myself researched for several weeks. As for your use of term ‘false flags’ – you may have meant red herrings or some other term. FF is not applicable regarding statements about Hogg…
However, FF may be very applicable concerning the entire incident, as the “suspect” is believed to be a “patsy” by many of us. One of the teachers is quoted as saying the shooter she saw was dressed in Swat Gear, and a student is quoted as talking with the “suspect” while hearing gunshots at the end of the hall.
We will probably NEVER know the truth behind Parkland (yes, people died)… just as we will never know the ‘truth’ about so many incidents.
As far as statements questioning Hogg and his activities, unless one has done some research, one can hardly condemn others who have. I never cease to be amazed at what some people deem source acceptable. On one hand one will profess that MSM lies, and in the next breath quote a NYT, CNN or any of the other propagandists as a quality source. If Wacompost or NYSlimes say David Hogg is a hero, is being smeared… one believes. If a citizen ‘journalist’ says Hogg is a fraud, one protests. If Sundance, a citizen journalist, says something, it is accepted without question (put down your pitchfork, tar and feathers, I know Sundance documents and researches… simply using him as an example)…
“is a grown man with 3 years of college and the sissy washed out” and that he’s “a programmed asset for valarie Jarrett.”
I have seen nothing other than conjecture to prove where or when he finished school… could be he is a senior at Parkland (though he has been all over the country since Feb., hard for a student unless he has some kind of special arrangements.); likewise, no proof he has been in college. No one has found proof of his age either. As for association etc w/ ValJar, somebody really pulled that out of the air!
Agree with you totally on above… no evidence that I have seen.
To my ‘eye’ – (which means nothing) he appears to be a very disturbed young man. My instinct (psy major – again, means nothing) says he is a sociopath (hiding in a closet w/ a fellow student, listening to gunshots – yet having a conversation/debate regarding gun control; later, being interviewed after claim he rode bicycle from home to school to get to scene, yet no sign of grief, sadness… not a word expressed in grief.) My opinion of him may be tainted by my research. He definitely is a POS

This goes to the RED FLAG-social media crapola. It was saved at the same time as the HOGG info.

What this lawyer threatens is highly unethical & highly illegal. Lawyers cannot ask their government “intelligence and law enforcement clients” to “see what they can find out about your life” b/c they want to “reveal your identity” after you questioned misconduct of govt. agents. https://t.co/0TcWBjToQX
— Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) May 27, 2018

Hey “Rex”, why don’t you reveal your identity instead of attacking someone while hiding? I’d love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life. We can compare notes on our research efforts. What do you say? Game?
— Mark S. Zaid (@MarkSZaidEsq) May 27, 2018

“my intelligence and law enforcement clients”?
You mean civil servants?
The kind that are paid by the taxpayers?
They are not your personal pitbulls.
You’re despicable.
— Covfefeconservatopia (@WTPatty) May 28, 2018

……………….
I am going to shut down and restart my computer. I will put up any info I have on NAVY at that time. If I disappear — WORD Unimpressed ‘Got me!’

Gail Combs

I do not know if Navy and NavyJack are the same….

Like just about everything coming from @thelastrefuge2, this story is #fakenews. The Congressional Leadership Fund was by far the largest contributor to Saccone’s campaign and the ad referenced in the article is fake. https://t.co/9UqIXod9v3 via @thelastrefuge2
— NavyJack (@USNJack) March 16, 2018

NebraskaFilly

JMO, but that is not the same Hogg – ears and nose are both different.

thetinfoilhatsociety

true. And the lips/mouth are different. Hogg from Parkland looks like he had some nerve damage, one side of his mouth is lower than the other. And his lips are much thinner.

Deplorable Patriot

Off topic, but Gail, you might try one of the free anti-virus softwares available to clean out the cookies if it is really an issue. I run one about every other week, and there are always cookies that need to go.

mandy

uh….
I’m going to try and post these as they appear in my gab feed, hopefully it works and makes some sense….
“ℕ𝔼𝕆ℕ ℝ𝔼𝕍𝕆𝕃𝕋Verified Account@NeonRevolt
That’s… a strange edit.
Link to the revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tcomment image
which is a response to:
“🌸Royal👑Peasant🌸
@Shazlandia
Posted in Great Awakening
I asked where is Ghislaine Maxwell…this is the answer I received….interesting….we shall see if it’s right🤔
Looks like she died 8 days from now….
#EpsteinMurder
https://mobile.twitter.com/Cory4182671
WHAT THE HECK IS THAT ABOUT?
Anyone know?

NebraskaFilly

Hmmmm….msg on Twitter: that account does not exist (Cory4182671)

mandy

This one ALMOST makes me want to join the group at Gab….almost. lol…..

NebraskaFilly

I signed up but haven’t visited since then.

mandy

To Gab or to NR’s group?

NebraskaFilly

Gab

GA/FL

That Twitter account doesn’t exist.

Linda
Deplorable Patriot

From the article behind the paywall:
The police said they were aware of online posts linked to the suspect, whose name has not been released. About two hours before the attack, a post appeared on 8chan, the message board that had hosted the anti-immigrant manifesto of the man accused of the El Paso shooting. The post raised questions of whether it could have been written by the suspect in the Norway attack.
“Well cobblers it’s my time,” the post began in English, ending with the Norwegian phrase “valhall venter” or “heaven awaits.”
DP picks up:
If you’re going to fabricate “news,” it would be a good idea to be sure the details don’t conflict with real life.

Linda

This is an excellent article on what the left is trying to do to 8chan and people on the right:
8chan: The Latest Fearporn Drive
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/8chan-latest-fearporn-drive
“There are hundreds of boards on 8chan, with thousands upon thousands of different posters. Boards could be created by anyone to discuss anything.
The vast majority were dedicated to perfectly ordinary topics. Video games, fashion, cars, movies. There were many much more specific, fetishy, niche and weird…but not “far-right”. The site didn’t have an ideology except “free speech”.
The general shifting of “free speech” from something we all take for granted to being described as a “far-right agenda” is one of the most worrying trends in modern politics.”

GA/FL
NebraskaFilly
GA/FL

TY!!!

GA/FL

OMG #6
6/7 Sometimes the same folks who sex traffic are also involved with other forms of trafficking, such as labor trafficking, drug trafficking, and organ trafficking. Though spoken little about, organ harvesting is an epidemic.

GA/FL

These GDFKN ghouls steal a child’s organs and blood.

Katie

Can you say Planned Parenthood? 300,000+ babies ‘disappear’ every year.

GA/FL

Yes – three hundred thousand hearts grow harder and colder and the world loses 300,000 gifts from GoD!

kea

Forgive me for posting this yahoo story but its just SO funny. They pick a hand full of people and its a ‘massive group’.
Frightened by shootings, appalled at Trump, Americans are voting with their feet — to leave
https://www.yahoo.com/news/frightened-by-shootings-appalled-at-trump-americans-are-voting-with-their-feet-to-leave-161346924.html
The comments are so telling and people keep point out issues with the article. But that dog in the photo has this look of ‘OMG save me’. They need to take some Hollywood idiots with them.

Sadie Slays

Still waiting for all of those celebrities who said they’d move to Canada if Trump won to finally go away.

kea

Same.

nikkichico7

… 🤨👍‼️

mandy

We have a diary from a family member who fled a nation that subsequently fell into civil war and mass starvation. Our ancestor wrote about how he and his wife were mercilessly ridiculed for leaving. When the mass starvations hit, he and his wife helped in the effort to help those who had stayed behind…

NebraskaFilly

Well, then. Just watching Maria’s show from this morning – per Bannon, the eventual dem nominee has not declared yet, then listed Bloomberg, Killary, and Big Mike (of course, he didn’t use those names) – a whole host of possibilities and it may even happen as late as the convention.

TheseTruths

I find that idea fascinating. The current candidates will go through the rigors and expense of campaigning, and then the DNC will insert a fresh candidate who hasn’t had to even debate the others? I wouldn’t think that would go over well.

NebraskaFilly

Do you really think they care if it goes over well? Look at what they did to Sanders.
As Bannon also said, they MUST beat PDJT at ALL COSTS – that is the ONLY thing on which they are focused. They will put up anyone they think can take him on and I think that will be Big Mike.

TheseTruths

I agree.

rf121

Mikey does not have the work ethic.

Teagan

Not to mention absolutely no experience nor any proven abilities. After all, what has she actually done on her own?

redlegleader68

“…what has she actually done on her own?…”
EDIT: has she actually = has he actually … just sayin’ … 😉

nikkichico7

Oh puke .. 🤮

Dora

para59r

Well of course, now that he’s implicated with Epstein what does anyone expect him to say.

pgroup

Little Chakra Island.

GA/FL

Hear tell Gore was one of Epstein’s patrons on the Lolita Express.

Deplorable Patriot

These are the last two paragraphs of a long and involved story regarding Epstein and his disassociation with Lex Wexner:
“Two of Mr. Epstein’s longtime attorneys, Darren Indyke and Jeffrey Schantz, were involved with some of his trusts and other entities in New York and in the Virgin Islands, according to incorporation documents. Neither lawyer responded to requests for comment.
“In a sign that the attorneys are bracing for government scrutiny of Mr. Epstein’s companies, Mr. Indyke and Mr. Schantz both recently hired criminal defense lawyers.”
Here’s the article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/business/jeffrey-epstein-finances.html
DP:
There’s a lot about this that is massively fishy, namely that Wexner claims he discovered money under Epstein’s purview was missing in 2007, and never contacted authorities. We’re talking billions under Epstein’s management, and the mogul didn’t sue Epstein for it back????? Not buying that story. And then this article talks about $88 million that went to a company on St. Thomas that was slowly used, but no records say as to what.
I know that there are people here who disagree on the Wexner angle, but first his denials of knowledge of Epstein’s escapades are printed in the WSJ, a Dow Jones asset which is now a subsidiary of News Corp (Murdoch). Now we have more “news” in the NYT, a known deep state purveyor of narrative reinforcement reiterating the 2007 split details, all while burying the information that Epstein’s lawyers have lawyered up themselves.
This is starting to either smell or gel depending on where you are in the story.

B.b.S.s.Saint

Off topic…your insights and research is good to read…but wanted to catch you..last week or so you and (?)Towanda were talking about the Shroud of Turin..it was an interesting discussion. Have you seen this?

Tonawanda

Very interesting!

B.b.S.s.Saint

I also found it interesting. Glad u liked it.

Deplorable Patriot

Thanks. I’ll have to watch it later. Looking forward to it.

B.b.S.s.Saint

YW

Deplorable Patriot

I have not seen that specifically, but I have been curious about the Shroud for a long time. There are a couple details that fit in with the visions of the mystics, one being His height. The claim is that when walking on earth Christ was over six feet tall. 5’11” is close. The other is the number of wounds. According to St. Bridget of Sweden, He told her He had over 5,000 altogether with the little balls on the end of the cat o’ nine tails.

B.b.S.s.Saint

The shroud book I read, had a forensic analysis of the wounds and many many many, the scourging alone should have killed HIM! What a price I owed that HE paid for me! What amazing grace! I hope you find the video insightful, this 3-D printing technology is really amazing!

Dora

para59r

Many these protesters being taken away will likely never again surface.

NebraskaFilly

Notice from PC-Matic – since AT&T bought DirecTV, I have been bombarded with offers to switch my cell from VW to AT&T. I briefly considered it, then said nope. Sooooo glad I didn’t switch now!
“The DOJ this week announced that AT&T employees have been paid more than $1 million in bribes to unlock millions of smartphones, and to install malware and unauthorized hardware on the company’s network. According to the full DOJ complaint (pdf), Muhammad Fahd, a 34-year-old man from Pakistan and a (presumed dead) co-conspirator, Ghulam Jiwani, paid off AT&T employees at the company’s Mobility Customer Care call center in Bothell, Washington. In return, from April 2012 until September 2017, the two men unlocked iPhones so they could be used on another carrier’s network.
Worse, the bribed employees happily installed malware and keyloggers providing broad access to the AT&T network. That includes keyloggers intended to gather data on AT&T’s internal systems and processes:
‘The DOJ said Fahd and his co-conspirator then created a second malware strain that leveraged the information acquired through the first. This second malware used AT&T employee credentials to perform automated actions on AT&T’s internal application to unlock phone’s at Fahd’s behest, without needing to interact with AT&T employees every time. In November 2014, as Fahd began having problems controlling this malware, the DOJ said he also bribed AT&T employees to install rogue wireless access points inside AT&T’s Bothell call center. These devices helped Fahd with gaining access to AT&T internal apps and network, and continue the rogue phone unlocking scheme.’
Carriers have had a bit of a problem with rogue employees being bribed. Similar tactics have been used by hackers engaged in “SIM hijacking,” which involves posing as a wireless customer, then fooling a wireless carrier to port the victim’s cell phone number right out from underneath them, letting the attacker then pose as the customer to potentially devastating effect. Both AT&T and T-Mobile have subsequently been sued after instances where SIM hijacking then lead to identity and cryptocurrency theft, though both companies have been busy trying to dodge culpability for failing to keep consumer data secure.
The DOJ notes that one AT&T employee received more than $428,500 in bribes over a five year period. And the operators of the scam appear to have been focused on running an illegal phone unlocking ring via a number of bogus companies including Endless Trading FZE, Endless Connections Inc., and iDevelopment. Fahd was arrested in Hong Kong in February 2018, and extradited to the US last week. AT&T, meanwhile, states that it lost upwards of $5 million in revenue annually as the result of the unlocking scheme. The DOJ does not detail the width and scope of the private data accessed via the malware planted by the duo.”
Read more: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190807/09514242737/att-employees-took-bribes-to-plant-malware-companys-network.shtml

Sadie Slays

I’m wondering if 8chan’s extended downtime is strategic. Maybe the white hats gave them a head’s up to stay down until this latest spate of mass shootings is over.
https://twitter.com/infinitechan/status/1160518101798047744
https://twitter.com/infinitechan/status/1160366733535956995

Katie

And as a result, a whole lot of people are asking “What is this 8Chan I hear about?”
And once it comes back online, standby for the explosion in the number of new eyes on the site.

mandy

NR regabbed…
“𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕨 -@Shaw
Posted in Great Awakening
GUYS: Jim Watkins has confirmed that his site (8chan) has been offline VOLUNTARILY, and that he’ll put it back up after he speaks with Homeland Security: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJxVYXBJ0o
#Q #QAnon @NeonRevolt”

churchmouse
rf121

Better have your eye wash bleach ready. There is some pretty nasty hard core stuff over there.

mandy

?? Over where?

TheseTruths

I think he’s talking about 8chan. Anything goes there, it seems, and I don’t read there anymore because I don’t want to wade through things I would never choose to see otherwise. The good information that is poseted there is usually posted elsewhere by tweeters and bloggers.

kalbokalbs

Short ramble…
AG Barr has no need to apologize, resign, be fired, whatever. Nonsense!
– Yammering about declas and releasing docs taking too long. After Barr was given authority to declas / release, I did read a couple places, DNI Coats could still be an impediment. Perhaps we’ll start seeing docs 15th or soon there after.
– Yammering about Barr as head of DOJ should resign because of Epstein is apparently dead – suicide or murder. As best I can tell Barr is doing as well as anyone could with a DOJ and FBI that are corrupt to the gills and 100% averse to transparency.
Justice horribly slow, but we gotta let Barr do what is right. I remain confident Barr will do well, AND President Trump will push for accountability.
As far as an IG for Epstein’s death, me thinks only if they’ll start indicting bad guys, have a trial and start punishing the bad guys.
DOJ, FIB and IC have evolved to 100%, joke IMHO. Redeemable, yes. Indictments, trials, punishment that fits the crime are all manadory.

GA/FL

If I were investigating the Epstein demise – I’d be giving all those guards a buncha interrogations, lie detector tests – the works….and checking out their bank accounts and family connections.

singingsoul1

GA/FL
“If I were investigating the Epstein demise – I’d be giving all those guards a buncha interrogations, lie detector tests – the works….and checking out their bank accounts and family connections.”
___________________________________________________________
What about this that someone came into prison with fake identity fake order taking Epstein off s-watch .
Then maintenance came around shot off the camera.
Maybe summertime there are personnel changes .
They might never find out who gave orders because it all was fake with fake names fake orders? Maybe even gave a guy the night off and someone rescheduled under false identity,
Anyone can break into computer and make personnel changes and fake them. This was in the works for a while plenty of time.
Even smuggling Epstein out ( if that was the case) of the prison can be done that way and give him a fake heart problem then switch the body and whisk him out of the country.
Look how long it took for them to figure out he is (supposedly) dead? We might never find out what happened. The timing is strange also, the papers are released POTUS goes to NY Epstein supposedly died.
I put nothing past skilled professionals black hats or even International black hats send by governments.
I know nothing except try to think out of the box.

Katie
mandy

oh.
“Radical Feminist Raves: “We Need To Kill All Men”
Somebody must’ve not been paying attention in biology class.
A rant from feminist YouTube star named Jenny McDermott has gone viral on Twitter over the past few days. In it, McDermott tells her audience that, to create the ideal conditions for the survival of the human race, we must kill all men and male babies.
“We need to kill all men. I am sick of being a baby factory that produces more men who will in the future subjugate me. The solution to that is to kill any man that you see in the streets just any swinging dick. We want the species to go on but we only want it to go on with women in it.”
more at the link:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/radical-feminist-raves-we-need-kill-all-men

mandy

Okay AFTER I posted the “kill all males!” insanity link to ZH….I noticed this one…..too funny, appearing together on the front page as they do….
“The Bull is Dying”

“Oh my gosh, what a load of BULL I keep reading among the gurus who whine about negative headlines and complain that this unmerited negativity is the only thing that is killing the bull market. Bull.
The bellowing bulls cry every time someone runs a negative headline, “Stop, you’re breaking our bull market with your negativity. That is the only reason it is going down.” The real truth is that headlines have been enormously biased toward a BULLish narrative for the better part of a decade, and bearish headlines are only just beginning to seep in. But that is too much for the bulls: “All this negativity is killing us.”
If the market was healthy, you couldn’t kill it with a little negativity”
more at link:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/bull-dying

pgroup

“Always with the negative waves, Moriarty.”

drillerelite

So I went on Gab, 1st time in a while (it’s different and I thought we had a group, didn’t we?) Maybe the Epstein memes are getting old so forgive me but this cracked me up. 🤞Hopefully this shows…comment image

Linda

Good for Texas!

kalbokalbs

AND, that is the way things ought to be going on a Nationwide basis.
In the wake of Gilroy, El Paso and Dayton, in honor of the Second Amendment, Congress ought to pass a law that bans Red Flag laws. The latter, a wholly ignorant concept. Nothing good can come of it.

piper567

we need more guns.
that’s what we need.

kalbokalbs

AND, stack the ammo high and deep;-)
Training consumes lots of ammo.
Prices are relatively low…bulk buys even a better deal.

pgroup

Co-ops. Ammo buyers co-op.

piper567

yes indeed kalbo, yes indeed.

kea
kea
Dora

I wish I lived in Italy so that I could vote for him.

mandy

We pray for Salvini twice a day!

piper567

we need more Alpha Males.
that’s what we need.

mandy

“DEVELOPING: Epstein Autopsy Expected Today, Medical Examiner Says”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/developing-epstein-autopsy-expected-today-medical-examiner-says/
hmmm…..

andyocoregon
mandy

mandy

DR MICHAEL BADEN FROM THE DANGED OJ TRIAL?

rf121

He is one of the best. Not surprised the estate wanted him involved.

mandy

lol, he’s not just elderly, he’s ELDERLY-ELDERLY*!
It’s causing even MORE raised eyebrows – which could be a VERY good thing, truly.
* “older-elderly” and “elderly-elderly” (terms used to refer to those 80 or 85 years and older) https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/495441

Tonawanda

Michael Baden is exactly the guy I would NOT want to render an opinion, and I do not care how many testimonials he can produce.
Autists should look into the cases Baden has handled.

andyocoregon

The Mayor of Louisville, Ky, Greg Fischer stands with the protesters who did the middle of the night loud protest in front of McTurtle’s house. The Governor, Matt Bevin doesn’t agree.
https://www.wdrb.com/news/spat-between-gov-matt-bevin-mayor-greg-fischer-continues-after/article_44a1a498-b947-11e9-aaec-97b27db7ba9f.html

singingsoul1

Louisville is democrat run.

andyocoregon

Warning: The video in this article will anger you, or at least it should. Creepy Joe Biden does not deserve to run for president. Look what he did to these brave veterans.
https://www.mediamatters.org/pete-hegseth/foxs-pete-hegseth-defends-blackwater-contractors-convicted-murdering-iraqi-civilians

mandy

Oh good Lord. IN A TOILET? And she BRAGGED about that? Gross.
“CLOONEY ‘ROMP’ George Clooney accused of sex act with ex-lover of Prince Andrew’s paedo pal Jeffrey Epstein”
GEORGE Clooney was tonight sensationally accused of a sex act with the ex-lover of Prince Andrew’s paedo pal Jeffrey Epstein.
The star, 58, was dragged into the scandal after Epstein’s jail death.
The woman accused of recruiting young girls for the US financier perv is claimed to have boasted about performing a sex act on the screen idol in a toilet.”
more at the link:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9701672/george-clooney-jeffrey-epstein-sex-act-ghislaine-maxwell/

kea

I never liked Clooney…

kea

Another idiot…
Another Dopey Far Left Athlete Kneels During Anthem at Pan Am Games Cuz of Racism and Donald Trump
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/another-dopey-far-left-athlete-kneels-during-anthem-at-pan-am-games-cuz-of-racism-and-donald-trump-video/

drillerelite

Twas family movie night and Mrs Driller wanted to share but doesn’t know how to post pics. Here … 🙄comment image

TheseTruths

Such sweet companions and smart, too, to be engrossed in a movie!

drillerelite

We have amazing pets. Been working with drillerdog, he’ll be certifiable as a service dog soon 😁comment image

TheseTruths

Smart, indeed! I’ve never seen that “not tired of winning” shirt. Nice!

drillerelite

😁 thanks!

drillerwife

Well only cuz I need I thought an emotional dog but it turns out I qualify for a service dog!🥳🤗🦋

drillerelite

Lol, I’m shocked (not) 😆

drillerwife

Aren’t you funny?🙄😂❤️

drillerelite

😘

drillerwife

I wish I could do GIFs on here!😒

drillerelite

Yeah, I could help you with that but probably shouldn’tcomment image

drillerwife

Right!😂

Volgarian8301

Very good interview on Levin tonight. Preparing for things to come?

TheseTruths

This is maddening, and so sad for the children. I hope progress is being made to catch the perps. It would be especially gratifying to prosecute “elites” who hate Pres. Trump, hate us, hate America, think they should be able to run the world, and use people/children and throw them away like trash (that is, the ones who aren’t participating in their murders). This evil has to be stopped.