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“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Whatever happened, the white hats certainly expected this possibility and already gamed out several contingencies in the event Epstein didn’t live.
I agree. If this was a real murder, I think they had a strong game plan in spite of it.
Just watched and IPOT vid. He mentions Ghislaine Maxwell was reported dead a while ago in one article that seems to now be gone. She sold her NYC home and is now MIA. — HMMMmmmm
Then there is Ray Chandler who Q said was ‘Child Handler’
https://www.brainstain.us/tag/ray-chandler-instagram/
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Keep digging, Anons.
RACHEL CHANDLER IS KEY.
Q
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I want to know, but don’t want to know – what was going on in those CCTV pictures of the people sitting around the table with a body in the middle. Cannibalism? Torture?
We know Hillrotten has no conscience. That was apparent when she was on the Watergate committee and later as lawyer attacking a sexual abuse victim, her frauds and crimes while at the Rose Law Firm, as Arkansas First Lady and on to the White House. She’s a creepy, crooked, heartless woman.
Her laugh is the cackle of a witch.
Sorry I jumped from Epstein to Hillary – just because both Clintons were said to be guests of Epstein on the Lolita express and at his island ‘resort’.
….and to me, Hillary epitomizes the kind of person who is OK with Planned Parenthood marketing child parts and bl00d.
and of course, Bill and Hillrotten has many reasons to want Epstein to exit the land of the living….as many past Clinton associates have done.
They are birds of a feather
She IS a witch. And one of the highest, if not the highest-ranking one on the planet.
A Satanic, Black-Magick illuminised Witch. And head of a coven as well. And Beezle-Billy-Bubba is also one, but outranked by her.
She needs death and blood in order to keep her power. Normal for that order and type of witches.
I hope the FBI have brought an expert in the occult to work the scene/s on the islands and his various houses.
I’ve read there have been experiments in the “paranormal”, so to speak, going back to the 1940s. So I think there are experts in the Occult among them. There are a number of former witches (including the ones who outed Hill-the-BEAST), although they prefer to remain anonymous, as leaving the Occult is as bad or worse than leaving a cult…
Hillrotten’s love of Haiti no doubt has to do with their voodoo cults.
That actually makes sense. People’s interests in other cultures often reflects their own originating belief systems. And we know where the Witch of Chappaqua is coming from!
I wish it were the NYPD that did.
Alive or dead he didn’t commit suicide.
^^^
Let’s give the group a really wild theory.
Dr. Eddie has been to my house. He’s one of the few physicians in the world who can do a face transplant. He did one for a local firefighter, here. His son was on Gunner’s football team.
Dr Eddie is located at NYU Langone. Convenient. Dr Eddie does work for the DOD. It’s not out of the realm of possibility…….. maybe Jeffrey was an asset of the government. A well known pervert would be perfect to compromise heads of state, princes, politicians, and CEO’s. And the CIA would LOVE that file of material. And Jeffrey did have a foreign passport, Austria, expired in 1986. And we never heard a rumor about Epstein being drunk or doing drugs — only sex as a vice.
If I were Epstein, I would be happy to make a deposition from a foreign country, if I could keep 50 million. Let my victims have the other 450 million.
How many houses do we think Jeffrey had????
Actually, plastic surgery would be enough, and no messy addiction to cyclosporin afterwards!
Epstein might not like his new face, designed to make people say “Nope, not him.”, but at this point, why not?
I have some “tells” about whether he made a deal and is being deep-sixed instead of murder / suicide. Let’s see what happens. If my tells are tripped, I will say so.
Absolutely. But better for him to disappear togitmo forever or really be dead. Need those search warrants to hold up in court
Not far fetched DNW. On another thread I basically suggested he could have been an alphabet asset. Makes sense for them to use him, perhaps for decades.
Wonder if there was any betting in Vegas on how long it would take for Epstein to take a dirt nap or disappear.
BTW, am hoping some of us asked that he may rest in peace if he is taking a dirt nap.
AMEN.
Don’t forget Rudy gs Sussex. Tweet. About the watch in suicide watch. Was there a secret camera? Are more deep state minions going to get rounded up?
Fuck no. Eternal flames.
And for the record I, personally, have no incriminating evidence on the clintons………just putting that out there
Wolfie, love your headlines on the topic.
Thanks! 😀 I don’t really want to say that these are “fun”, but “Hot August” is providing a lot of opportunity to be more creative!
Well, well, well….
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349729/Dozen-FBI-agents-raid-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Pedophile-Island.html?fbclid=IwAR2LRjatFxYGHHuH1rma0JJRHRnuU0l5VJc-G_e40vjHcEkC4PejZG_309E
EXCLUSIVE: A dozen FBI agents raid Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘Pedophile Island’, pulling up to his Caribbean getaway in speedboats and roaming the grounds in golf carts, two days after pervert billionaire’s suicide
FBI agents were seen raiding Jeffrey Epstein’s US Virgin Island – Little St. James – on Monday morning and afternoon, exclusive DailyMailTV footage shows
At least a dozen agents were seen disembarking speedboats at the pier and driving around the 71.5 acre grounds on golf carts
Other officials with ‘FBI’ lettering on clear display were later seen overlooking the sea from the top of Epstein’s remote luxury home
The raid comes two days after the 66-year-old was found dead by suicide in his New York jail cell early on Saturday morning
An onlooker told DailyMailTV: ‘I’m on a boat charter with guests. We were enjoying lunch when we saw over a dozen people landing on the island’
The home – dubbed ‘pedophile island’ and ‘orgy island’ – is at the center of an ongoing sex trafficking probe into the criminal financier
Allegations have been made that underage girls were used as sex slaves and repeatedly abused inside a temple on the island
By CHEYENNE ROUNDTREE and JACK WRIGHT FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:08 EDT, 12 August 2019 | UPDATED: 16:35 EDT, 12 August 2019
FBI agents were seen raiding Jeffrey Epstein’s private US Virgin Island, which has been dubbed ‘Pedophile Island’, as the sex trafficking probe around the now deceased billionaire intensifies, as exclusive DailyMailTV footage shows the search being carried out.
A large group of FBI officers were seen disembarking speedboats at the pier of Little St James on Monday morning and driving around on golf carts after the 66-year-old was found dead by suicide in his New York jail cell early on Saturday morning.
Other officials with ‘FBI’ lettering on clear display were later seen overlooking the crystal blue sea from the top of Epstein’s remote luxury home off the coast of St Thomas.
The search comes after 2,000 pages of documents detailing the lurid allegations of his sexual abuse of underage girls were unsealed to the public on Friday, adding more fuel to the fire of the government’s case of sex trafficking against Epstein.
With Epstein legally dead, whether he is or not, LE has free reign to search his property. Search and seizure rights no longer apply.
BTW, the autopsy was inconclusive, I saw earlier. We’re going to have to wait for results. Gee, imagine that.
Amost certainly the tech will be beyond our public fake science, and possibly beyond white hat science. If the latter is the case, that may speak to perpetrator.
FWIW…
There are instruments that show if the earth has been disturbed, if there are caves, hollows tunnels… That technology goes back decades BTW.
ALSO remember the blurb about the IR tracking of Drug Traffickers by equipment ABOVE normal air traffic???
Any bets that FISA and SURVEILLANCE has been going on for some time?
Be like trying to make up an original excuse for not doing your homework.
But wait! Everyone knows Epstein’s death was faked and he’s still alive somewhere. LOL!
Hmmm….here’s my 2 cents, what if big if but maybe the patriots wisked pedo Jeff off to gitmo for a tribunal for crimes against humanity and such , after he’s done spilling out the big names he’s executed, the patriots knowing the pedo Jeff has to die in order for LEO to have unimpeded access to his properties to get the evidence that’s hidden for justice to be served.this sounds nutz but to lazy to delete it all right now.
The only thing he had left to sell was his death. Fake death- life in gitmo but safe. Because he’s dead they can search anything of his and no one can tie up court about the admissibility of evidence from said searches. No matter how good a lawyer they have
I agree 100% I just read the fib is all over pedo island today. And the NY mansion as well.Q has only mentioned JE once or twice ,Q has always directed us to Ray Chandler. She’s 100x worse then Allison Mack .that girl has everything I would bet.
Or he’s alive and given permission to retrieve evidence again coconspirators.
Yep. But the cost will be life in gitmo. Never gonna get out
Well, Sue, my two cents is I like your two cents.
Thanks DP.
Wonder if someone is checking the waters and coral formations around the island for inlets and outlets and other interesting things or did I see too many 007 movies.
On a light note: Water looked a tad choppy in the photos but I’m drooling about the snorkeling.
REMEMBER the mini sub….
“…[Ghislaine] Maxwell went on in her adult life to earn licenses to pilot submarines….
Maxwell was also known to have become a qualified emergency medical technician (EMT), and was fluent in several languages. She no longer holds an FAA certification despite once being listed as a licensed pilot.
She wrote columns for National Geographic in 2015 urging Americans to sign the “I Love the Ocean Pledge” to have the U.N. take up ocean issues as part of its Sustainable Development Goals. A year earlier, she gave a TED talk and spoke at the University of Texas, Dallas on ocean protection matters….”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/a-look-at-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epsteins-alleged-recruiter
Stephen Hawking pictured on a sea bed tour on a submarine off Little St James
Picture from thread on Chandler: https://threader.app/thread/1108493461500628992
Wow, Gail, didn’t know all that. Thanks.
Fox last night said that the FBI boats that pulled up to the docks were seen to discharge scuba divers who were looking underneath.
Good to know. Thanks Cova.
I’m ready to pull out my hair.
In the middle of this article, Daily Mail notes “Followers of QAnon have been interested in the Temple for some time”, paraphrasing.
Ummmmm, yeah.
We’ve been interested in it for a decade or better.
It’s about damn time the FBI showed up.
But WE’RE the crazy ones?
So, QAnon followers are watching Little St James………. and Epstein is rearrested…….. and Epstein tries to kill himself “allegedly”…….. then his lawyers ask for him to be taken OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH…… and the prison Psych and warden BOTH agree………. and his cellmate mysteriously disappears………. and the cameras are not pointed at the cell……….. and the guards are overworked………… and no one checked on Epstein……….. and ALLEGEDLY Epstein is dead………. but he is wheeled out to hospital…………… not the prison infirmary………………. and he hung himself with a bedsheet (which is supposed to be a paper bed sheet so you can’t hang yourself)……….. and the autopsy is finished but the ME needs more info before she/he releases the results………..
and We’re NOT supposed to speculate as to what the hell is happening????????
Everyone in America is speculating.
You forgot there’s nothing to hang yourself from. No attachment point. And clothes are flimsy too
And at this particular facility, it would be the 2nd suicide in about 40 years. It has one of the best records in the US, per Fox News last night.
Records are made to be broken
At this point I wish I had had the time to whiteboard this thing from beginning to whenever it gets officially deep-sixed.
The contradictions are legion.
They waited 2 *f*ing days??? Now that’s suspicious as hell.
Fee, Fi, Fo, Fum
Is Epstein talking or is he mum?
Be he alive or be he dead,
He didn’t suicide in his bed!
SHORT and SWEET!!! <3
I just noticed this . . .
holley100 August 12, 2019 at 16:27
Alive or dead he didn’t commit suicide.
Is holley100 Q? Predicting future poems?
THE HIVE MIND SPEAKS!!!
Prior to Saturday, we Q[uantum] researchers were hoping to collapse the wavefunction of Schrödinger’s catty Supreme Court justice into a live or dead eigenstate.
Now we also have a different mysterious Schrödinger’s cat to speculate about.
Guess who is on the Island!
Good. Hope they’ve got some headed over to the garbage dump on St. Thomas (it’s huge), and then figure out from THAT where the secret garbage dump is.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Epstein cheaped out and SNUCK a lot of his worst garbage to the dump in places that the dump personnel simply don’t know about, rather than incinerating or otherwise securely disposing of it. The dump is like a district, open to the public. One could hide a world of crimes in it.
Could have been taken out to sea. Or St Croix, or the British Virgins.
I thought that once someone was charged with a crime, the FIBs would already have access. Or was he specifically charged?
I thought he had access ie tunnel to the water. Fishies like meat. If it’s woodchipped there no obvious bits and no floaters
Maybe they will find Hillary’s shoe.
*Snort… giggle… HA! 🙂
The same FBI that had 40 plus agents working Russia, Russia, Russia? Are these agents being led by
Mueller-Weissman? Having hard time feeling confident with “premier agency”.
https://twitter.com/kbq225/status/1161018707155542017?s=20
Needed to be dead. Otherwise his coconspiritors get to spend years fighting in court to have the evidence ruled as inadmissible. If the deep state got Epstein it was the worst own goal ever.
I’m leaning toward a suicide “pill” which he was given a choice…Give it all up or pop this pill and we can move on this much quicker!!!
They already had it all. All they wanted was his death so the searches would hold. Real or fake his only choice
Marica,
Someone said here since the disappearance that there was a report of an earlier FBI search of the island a couple of weeks ago, after the arrest.
Maybe that was to sieze only things enumerated on the search warrant, but now he’s dead, or “dead”, maybe they can go over it with a fine-toothed comb, and grab anything they want?
Cova!!! I Definitely think the White Hats are on this…as in “we have everything!” And the island buzzing with obvious FIBS mad the entire WORLD LOOK at Epstein’s Island!!! Oh yeah…THis is a show –Better that the Godfather –and what are the odds that the Godfather is front and center–thanks to FREDO Cuomo….hmmmmm
Is that the same FBI team that went to Benghazi long after the Ambassador Stevens was killed?
On a more serious note, it would be nice if they came with a purpose. You know, bring some equipment and look like your prowling around or something. What ever were seeing here, this isn’t cutting out.
Meanwhile back at the jail house. I’d trust the IG is going to conduct a serious audit of the hours the guards work to see how normal this double shift stuff is and such would likely have to be done jail house wide for as wide as guards exchange jobs and duties through out the jail house.
Barr says there were lots of ‘irregularities’ at the Manhattan Jail facility. Wonder what the heck was going on?
Remember, Baltimore Jail had 4 or 5 women have babies with one prisoner!
Baltimore women jail guards, that is.
A LOCK-UP BABY DADDY? Yikes!
Gives a whole new meaning to Jailhouse Rock…
Remind me to tell you about a cousin’s ex-wife and the kids she had who were not his.
Yup. Worse than a bad TV show, ain’t it.
Actually all I would like to see if the liberals ceasing their war on America & Americans, with those responsible getting charged and punished.
If it is through the Epstein mess some of them get punished, then fine, but it should be a good long sentence.
For some reason I have a feeling that Epstein is attached to more of the liberal war then we realize, and the sex mess is only part of it.
https://twitter.com/ILMFOrg/status/1161018421406031873?s=20
He’s gone all badpiper on them.
Great timing on this post Wolfie! all kinds of Epstein stuff breaking out…I will say this…I don’t think it was suicide either…Had to be “an assist”…
https://twitter.com/KLM4Trump/status/1161013984906153984?s=20
Why did so many news outlets say Epstein was found in bed, when THIS one says he was found hanging?
Disinformation? Sloppy? WTH!!!
Exactly!!And the supposed pic of him on the gurney…Nothing adds up…Why conspiracies live on!! But NOW We are all in agreement..Left AND right–That it’s a CONSPIRACY!!! See how that works? Very White Hat!!!
Pretty much blew me away when I kept hearing the Leftists agreeing with US that is fishy….
Don’t the leftists usually write the narrative?
And was he found dead or did he die at the hospital? Both versions are out there. There are those pics where he’s on the stretcher with an oxygen mask on.
There was an apparent resuscitation effort ongoing when they left the jail – but death has to be pronounced by a physician.
That’s if they detect signs of life. If they don’t detect signs of life aren’t they not supposed to move the body?
It has to be something like arm detached from body and bleed out, or head smashed like a pancake in order for EMTs to not take measures.
They have to take ‘life-saving’ measures until a physician calls death.
Truth is – we don’t know what the heck really happened!
The hospital, New York Presbyterian. What do you [M]a [K]e of that?
http://library.weill.cornell.edu/sites/default/files/human_ecology.pdf
???? There’s nothing to tie his (paper) sheet to in order to kneel & hang himself …. if it was a WHITE sheet, you can be certain that racist Trump is at fault!!!
They think we are stupid. Again.
Yep. The left are really full of sheet…..
(ducks flying hampers, whiteners-and-brighteners, Mr. Whipple and Madge with a Costco-sized-case of the quicker-picker-upper)… 🙂
Ahhhh…
That’s it.
They had a Bounty on him. So they used the quicker-picker-upper to towel-him-up….
(ducks, yet again…).
I for one…..
Appreciate your wit 🙂
Thanks 🙂
With all of this crud going on, sometimes all one can do is drop back and pun… 🙂
Interesting LOCAL CARIBBEAN article on Epstein and his island.
https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/locals-called-jeffrey-epsteins-caribbean-retreat-pedophile-island/
Posting here because I don’t want to interrupt Litenmaus thread…
https://twitter.com/Cordicon/status/1161026857820721152?s=20
oops…You can delete this Wolfie…I thought I was bringing Paul Serran Article on G Maxwell…
OT but interesting!
Anonymous conservative had a link showing the govt telling people to take iodine and rescue crews in full radiation protection suits
Russia is hard up for uranium, and the Cankles CIA and FBI will do everything to help. AOC will be demanding “duck and cover” to be brought back in schools.
“But especially what you think…” I am old school Wolfie, I believe I have to put my tin foil hat on and I hope you’ll indulge me in a rather long post….
These three that started the ‘suicide’ mantra…..
At 6:08 a.m. Tom Winter –NBC News Correspondent
BREAKING/NBC NEWS: JEFFREY EPSTEIN IS DEAD, FOUR OFFICIALS SAY.
THEY SAY HE DIED BY SUICIDE.
Reported W/@jonathan4NY
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At 6:09 a.m. Lauren Peikoff – Senior Producer @ MSNBC
@NBCNews: Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself, found dead this morning at Manhatten’s MCC jail @W/jonathan4 NY
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Jonathan Dienst – 6:17 a.m.- NBC Chief Investigative Reporter @ jonathan4NY
Jeffrey Epstein Dies by Suicide at Manhattan Jail: Sources | NBC New York
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Then the sister state-media ABC joined in the Agenda…
At 6:53 a.m. Julia McFarland-ABC Foreign Affairs Reporter
Breaking: Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide overnight at MCC Manhattan, the federal lockup where he had been held pending trial on federal sex trafficking charges, three law enforcement officials told @ABC News. Via @AaronKatersky
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At 6:54 a.m. Aaron Katersky- ABC Radio Correspondent
Jeffrey Epstein is dead. Sources tell @abc Epstein committed suicide at MCC Manhattan
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Emergency responders received A 911 call around 6:40 a.m. at Metropolitan Correctional Center, where Epstein was being held without bail, awaiting trial on charges of conspiracy and sex trafficking,” ABC News affiliate WTVD confirmed.
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OK – I’m following….
Here’s a link to an interesting talk about ham radio chatter and ramstien air force base regarding pedo Jeff. https://youtu.be/9I_yV5z99m8
I also heard this crazy and I do mean crazy theory that the man on the gurney was Tony rodham, the witches brother. Sent as a message to her that she couldn’t get JE.
NOT Tony Rodham. IPOT has up a video showing a still of the guy on the gurney and a photo of Epstein. The guy on the gurney has a VERY ‘syrid’ nose. Rodham does not. (And neither does Epstein)
Syrid nose:
Anthony Rodham, right, travels with GreenTech president and CEO Charles Wang on high-speed train in China. | Courtesy of Watchdog.org
http://images.politico.com/global/2015/03/27/lede_1503wangandrodham_watchdogorg_956x519.jpg
Daily Mail:
Epstein:
Interesting video, interesting guy also. TY Sue.
He has interesting friends I think. I do like how he lays it out without being a wind bag.
Years ago I would listen to Russ Dizdar a retired leo talk about the satanic pedo cults here in the US I was so shocked I could not even wrap my head around the stuff he saw as LE. Then we find out it’s all true and not only that but our gov.is infested with this evil to?? I’m redpilled enough that I didn’t have to call a shrink but WOW just WOW when it all comes tumbling down on the normies. What will that bring? Even more when the media darlings are frog marched to gitmo for there part.like Q has said thanks for playing 😁
I’m not shocked about most of this stuff. After some of my studies formal and informal, I’ve learned a lot…in small increments.
Here is a great place to look. Dr. Reisman is a great source of info on Alfred Kinsey. Because of his crap science normalizing pedos, judges and politicians were willing to alter the penal code.
https://www.thereismaninstitute.org/home
People who live in an ivory tower will be blown away when, if the full scope of pedo stuff comes out.
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NBC News posted their internet report at 7:19 a.m. MDT and updated at 8:00 a.m. MDT-the byline being Tom Winter [who had the earliest tweet that I have found], jonathan Dienst [who uses jonathan4NY] and Nicole Acevedo, a staff reporter at NBC.
NBC article updated 10:01 MDT and now the byline is Tom Winter, Jonathan Dienst & Phil McCausland, (NBC Digital Reporter)
“The officials told NBC News he was found at 7:19 a.m. ET at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York and that he hanged himself.
He was transported Saturday morning from the Metropolitan Correctional Center to a hospital in Lower Manhattan. Upon arrival, he was in cardiac arrest, people familiar with the matter say.”
New York Post Internet article posted 9:49 a.m./Updated 11:44 am
According the New York Post, a gurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein was wheeled out of the Manhattan Correctional Center around 7.30am and headed to New York Downtown hospital. A call for a reported cardiac arrest came in at 6.38am, fire department sources told the Post.
NY Post updated article has “photo” of man purported to be Epstein on a gurney….
Times don’t compute.
The times are all over the place GA/FL…
Any medical people know if hanging can cause cardiac arrest?
All death methods result in cardiac arrest. IOW, first he would choke, breaking his trachea, respiratory arrest, followed by cardiac arrest. “PERHAPS” they found him in a semi-strangled state, if he was even trying to hang himself, so that he would have suffered respiratory arrest, and then into cardiac arrest.
I believe Epstein had help leaving this world for the next.
Saturday livestream from Red Ice, it’s over two hours long but I found some of the info provided new (to me) and found it overall quite interesting. A guy named Ryan Dawson joined Henrick. Ties in that Nxm cult stuff, and lots more. Truly, the amount of detail is EXTREME.
DO NOT WATCH if you get upset by discussions of the Israel connections because those are laid out and discussed in detail. That said, if you try to be “no respecter of persons” (Acts 10:34), and don’t care where the info leads so long as you get to the truth, then you might find it interesting, too.
Or not. Only you can decide. 🙂
Oh, and if you decide to watch – the broadcast does not start until about 3:15 in or so. Just silence up to that point.
“… if you get upset by discussions of the Israel connections….”
….
Remember that Israel is no different than the USA. The Globalists (OH! Bummer et al) were trying to oust Bibi and George PapD was set up with the $10,000 in Israel by an Israeli agent.
And then things get STRANGE….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/20/anatomy-of-a-sting-robert-mueller-likely-used-fbi-and-foreign-intel-to-set-up-george-papadopoulos-in-july-2017/
“[…] Papadopoulos and Tawil met through an Israeli political strategist named David Ha’ivri.
David Axelrod??? David M. Axelrod (born February 22, 1955) is an American political consultant and analyst, best known for being the Chief Strategist for Barack Obama’s presidential campaigns. — WIKI
Are these guys cousins??? (In my father’s family the same two ‘first’ names are repeated several times over three generations)
Time for Ambergine to do some digging!
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The Guardian – timestamp of internet article 9:06 a.m. EDT…… refers to the NYPost article posted at 9:49….
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And finally…..
Fox News internet report ….
died from an apparent suicide inside in Manhattan jail cell and the FBI is investigating, the Federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed Saturday.
The 66-year-old Epstein was found unresponsive inside his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City around 6:30 a.m. Life-saving measures were initiated immediately by responding staff. He was transported to the New York Presbyterian-Lower Manhattan Hospital and was dead on arrival, officials said.
Law enforcement sources told Fox News that the initial call to the jail was cardiac arrest. Multiple reports claimed that he hanged himself.
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Epstein was found unresponsive in his cell Saturday morning at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, according to a statement from the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
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(adjusts hat)…..I don’t believe that Jeffrey Epstein was being held at the Manhattan Correctional Center…I believe that the ‘suicide/physicalharm’ incident previously reported was a ruse….the man who was in Epstein’s cell at the time, a ‘corrupt, killer cop’ so we were informed. Just happened to find Epstein curled up on the floor from either a suicide attempt or now the lawyers state that he was threatened during this incident. That cell was so big that Epstein quietly tried to strangle himself, with what?, that cell was so big that Epstein quietly fell to the ground and quietly cried and made himself so small that in the big ol’ cell, a cell mate ‘found him lying on the floor’? Give me a break.
There has been no factual data presented on the previous suicide/physical harm episode. Were no questions asked at that time how the prisoner could have committed suicide? Were no videos available for that suicide attempt as well. No doctors reports were ever presented to define the “injuries’, no officers were interviewed, no corroborating evidence was ever presented that injuries ever occurred, but the stage was set “Epstein tried to kill himself’
So here we are again….Four sources, no three sources, he had a cardiac arrest, no he hung himself, no Hillary offed him, he died before two, no he was dead at 7:29, no he was seen getting oxygen at 7:30…obfuscation……and right on cue…there’s an investigation, so no answers will be forthcoming.
I think Epstein was disappeared from the MCC after the last incident.
(Takes hat off)….
No one has looked at all the time discrepancies to my knowledge, and I appreciate that you did.
I wanted to know where this originated and how the whole story went from zero to suicide in one tweet… I was only 15 minutes behind the original tweet, so it was kinda interesting watching the whole narrative roll out.
Interesting. Not too many people would have done that. Glad you did.
“So here we are again….Four sources, no three sources, he had a cardiac arrest, no he hung himself, no Hillary offed him, he died before two, no he was dead at 7:29, no he was seen getting oxygen at 7:30…obfuscation……and right on cue…there’s an investigation, so no answers will be forthcoming.”
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Yep.
The only thing that’s missing is Jack Ruby…
LOL….pretty much…:0)
So the FBI along with the NYPD is raiding Epstein’s little island hideaway?
FBI? THAT FBI? You mean the FBI who ALSO was in up beyond it’s eyeballs in the attempted coup of POTUS, both before and after he won the 2016 election?
The FBI that is STILL under the control of CHRISTOPHER WRAY, whom I would not trust further than I could throw him?
Really?
https://twitter.com/love4thegameAK/status/1161020623335768064?s=20
This Sneaky Rod thread is very good…Hard not to see the conclusion…
https://twitter.com/RodSneaky/status/1160617525681561601?s=20
Aliens… ???!?!?!
Shhhhhhh! 😎
Illegal, no less 🙂
Oh, AND WHERE’S MY DOG?????
(Fido warrant? )
Two kinds – Illegal and extra illegal! 😉
Illegal Beagle?
You can’t be Sirius 🙂
(just, erm, hamming that one up, as the coders say)…
Lets not throw the poor Beagle’s into this!!! 😉
Illegal and extra crispy. 😀 What I want an electric fence!!!!
😀 Now you see why they want to rush Area 51!!! 😉
The alien conspiracy guy has the best hair on television.
Bar none.
It’s almost… otherworldly… 😁
LOL
Two things:
1) It’s totally against all protocols for a dead body to be transported as the picture showing Epstein’s body is being transported. He would have come out in a body bag, and certainly no one would have been able to take pictures of him on a gurney. At worse, he’d have been covered with a sheet, but all bodies come out in body bags, not on gurneys with their face exposed. I don’t doubt the guy was dead, but very strange for emergency personnel to move him like that. In fact, the coroner would have been called and they handle the dead body – rescue people are relieved from the scene once it’s established the person is dead….
2) A reminder, and for a good laugh, per POTUS’ retweet:
About the gurney pic, I thought the story was that he was being taken to the hospital to try to revive him. In other words, he was supposedly not dead, or even if they suspected he was dead, they had to treat him as if his life could have been saved. That was my understanding, anyway.
Yes, that’s the story – took him to the hospital to “try and revive him” – but not in the state we observed. There was no longer any effort going into reviving him. That’s a dead body, one that has been dead for some time – more than an hour at least. He had no equipment over his mouth, nose, etc. No resuscitation was going on, he was dead. They don’t transport like that for dead bodies. Supposedly he was taken to the jail’s infirmary for treatment, but I bet he was dead when they did that. It’s common practice to say someone was found “unresponsive” vs “dead” – a medical doctor, or other appropriate personnel has to declare death and stop resuscitation. That picture shows them openly transporting a dead body without intervention – which would obviously have been useless. I’m still trying to figure out how he managed to successfully hang himself without anyone hearing a commotion in his cell. Hanging, and dying from asphyxiation is not a quiet thing. Lot of kicking and noise…
“Two things:
1) It’s totally against all protocols for a dead body to be transported as the picture showing Epstein’s body is being transported. ”
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Protocols?
We don’t need no stinking protocols!
Just a quick aside: mentioned to a sibling that the island was raided and he said, “Nobody cares.” Seriously. No offense to Steve and the other engineers here, but that seems to be the motto among the ones in my family when it comes to this sort of thing.
Of course, that particular sibling does not realize that he had it easy compared to the rest of us. The rest I won’t put on this forum for the safety of some people precious to me.
“Just a quick aside: mentioned to a sibling that the island was raided and he said, “Nobody cares.” Seriously. No offense to Steve and the other engineers here, but that seems to be the motto among the ones in my family when it comes to this sort of thing.”
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I’ve never driven a locomotive before, but my siblings seem nearly as detached as yours.
It’s not so much that they don’t care, it’s almost like they just don’t see how it has any connection to their lives.
One sibling recently bought one of those “Alexa” voice command things. I said you realize strangers are listening to everything you say, all the time, even when you forget the thing is on?
She just smiled and nodded, like it was funny…
And I looked at her like she had two heads…
My other two brothers are far more with it. My sister, OTOH, if K-pop doesn’t sing about it, she’s just not interested.
Y’all gotta watch this.
Sounds like he got squeezed by the Charmin…
And, speaking of Paedophiles, erm, Padeo FILES,
wonder what’s up with Wiener’s “special folders”…
Got pizza stains on them???
Terrence is the new Flip Wilson!
Here come ‘da judge. Here come ‘da judge. 🤣.
Dating myself, I know…
This whole thread reminds me of the Church of What’s Happening Now.
That was great, lol!
This is the clearest picture I’ve seen yet of “Epstein’s” dead body alongside the live Epstein. I’m sorry, but that ear is NOT the same. That can’t be him.
The ear isn’t what bothers me, burst blood vessels, postmortem lividity can cause the changes we see – fluid accumulation along with the purplish discoloration.
It’s the nose that gives me uncertainty, but it’s possible that fluid settling there as well could change the shape that much. I would expect more swelling on the sides, with purplish discoloration, but the raised area is on top – as if this person didn’t have any “nose” work done, as I’m sure Epstein did.
Reminds me of that joke in Addams Family Values….the ghost story…..
I have it on good authority from MacGyver that the number of ways to kill a person with a roll of tissue is not 0.
Damn you should see what inmates can make out of toilet paper and the like.
Was actually shocked at a training the types of knifes that were totally made of paper, mostly toilet paper.
Mummy Dearest…
They made it into a book 🙂
Everyone wanted a leading roll…
You know, Wolf…one can always shove the mass down another’s throat…just to make a point!
Yup. MANY ways. The human mind is a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands.
LOL!
Here’s a curveball……It’s a given that there were ‘people’ who wanted Mr. Epstein dead.
Desperate people. Desperate people make mistakes, especially with little time to plan.
Could this be yet another trap set by the President and his team (Mr. Barr comes to mind).
Is President Trump’s retweeting T Williams take a ‘tell’?
No surveillance tapes? Sure.
Could be. This sounds very plausible.
Let it happen. NOT.
POSTED IN THE Q TREE ‘EVENING NEWS’ – Please check out the article and links below respectively – Thanks!
https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/08/jeffrey-epsteins-endless-connections/
Links to the two (2) articles cited in the article above…
https://www.opednews.com/articles/Politics-and-Pedophilia-a-by-Wayne-Madsen-Eavesdropping_Evidence_Friends_Girls-190806-790.html
https://alethonews.com/2019/08/07/mega-group-maxwells-and-mossad-the-spy-story-at-the-heart-of-the-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/
Interesting video H/T to Stella’s Place,
https://youtu.be/DK6dd-neWAs
Good deal! My feeling is that Whitaker knows Barr is being read in on stuff that is above his level of classification, and he is upwardly confident in Barr. But he is also thinking there is “stuff” going on that is going to need answers, and part of that will be (he hopes) some degree of transparency with the American public.
I really liked Whitaker, too, just like Bombard does.
Big Matt Whitaker has got Barr’s six and I’m sure he has a future in the DOJ.
Time will tell….
“Mr. Chairman, I see that your 5 minutes is up”
The “serious questions’ Whitaker mentions is a “tell” – IMO – doesn’t have to say conspiracy theory, he has questions, which means if he does, so do others…
Yup. There is “WTF” in DOJ!
Or maybe the operation was so “need to know” that DOJ didn’t need to know until it was complete, sort of like the Indianapolis’s mission.
Could be. I think we may be up to that level of severity here.
Whatever the real truth is, we haven’t heard it yet.
Possible, but somehow I just can’t see Barr or POTUS engaging in any scenario, even benign neglect, which would produce this outcome.
OTOH, I do believe almost everyone else who are players in the Epstein game were capable of making sure that Epstein never made it to trial. Whoever orchestrated this would make sure there was 50 ‘Degrees of Separation’ between the puppet master and the puppet.
DOJ and FBI still get heat for Epstein dying on their watch. And I’d like to know why more than a month after Epstein was arrested, with the warrant to search his Manhattan residence, nothing was done about searching his island residence. Shouldn’t they have had obtained search warrants for all his residences?
You know, I just thought of something.
What if we were ready to use this to take down DeBlasio and SDNY Hillary “resistance” faction who we knew would help take out Epstein?
Just an odd theory on the periphery of my thinking.
Would be a direct shot to remove the Queen!!!! LOL!
Yup. The put the piece RIGHT THERE, waiting to be taken. Now, the inevitable unfolds to CHECKMATE.
PS, Wolf…I have always thought the sex trafficking would be the Queen’s downfall.
People are not disgusted as much about a coup…but they are disgusted greatly about child abuse.
Me too, WSB!
I’ve always thought that the pedo stuff…the child sex trafficking stuff…would be the thing that turns public opinion against HRC and a lot of the big name leftists.
That’s what peaked my interest in Q…because Q was putting a spotlight on the pedo-child-trafficking stuff.
Indeed…nice to see you, wheetie!
It’s great to see you too, WSB!
😀
TY, wheetie!
I too have always thought it would be the child sex SLAVERY and MUCH WORSE that would take these POS down.
Good lord! I had heard that Whitaker was large, but he dwarfed the other three people in that clip. I can agree with Bombards that very large people move differently, having had one as a roommate (size 17 sandals look like D&D props) — but it’s not because their muscles get in their own way. In an open field, they can often be quite graceful. But among standard humans and standard furniture in a standard room, one open gesture can destroy the place and injure people — and they’ve generally had that hard truth reinforced throughout their lives in a succession of embarrassing incidents.
Standard walls are 1/2″ wallboard over 2×4 studs. It’s not terribly unusual for a six-foot 200-pound guy to knock a hole in it. For a guy like Whitaker, it’s like he’s surrounded by tissue paper walls built with toothpicks. Similarly, with people, it’s not unusual for two people walking to zig around an obstacle and glance off of each other — you both stagger, laugh, point at the obstacle, and move on. I’m sure Whitaker has had the same experience, except the other person was knocked flat on their keister and possibly injured.
Glad a man like Whitaker is one of the good guys. Just added him to the prayer list!
We both went to the University of Casual Sun Bathing and would amuse ourselves clambering over the rocks and cliffs. At one point, I’d climbed up to where my shoulders were at the level of a path on the bluff, but I had an overhang in the last four feet. I asked my friend, who was on the path above, to give me a hand (so that I wouldn’t have to roll around in the dirt so much), we grasped arms — and he just lifted me up over the edge and set me down on the path. I had been expecting that he’d just keep me from falling while I scrabbled my own way up.
Incidentally, UCSB was in the news the other day, as a #1 college campus. Although sixth in the overall rankings — https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7337793/Americas-party-schools-REVEALED.html — note that UCSB shined in a particular category.
DH 6’6.” When we first married I was 5’6.” Even though I wasn’t a waif, if we bumped into each other accidentally he could send me to the floor. I’ve bumped into him numerous times in the past 5 decades and nearly sent myself to the floor. Thank God he has always been graceful when moving. Came from sneaking up on squirrels, not even making sounds with his feet, when hunting in the woods as a kid.
That’s exactly why the “muscles opposition” theory didn’t work for me. Big guys can sneak up on squirrels…..but houses/offices/studios aren’t built for them.
Yes.
My brother is 6’6” and well over 200 lbs. DOORWAYS are a problem for him. And CARS??
Oh, that reminds me……we were at UCSB, and decided to visit his folks in Firebaugh. We took my car — a 1979 Ford Mustang — around dusk. After a while, I had him spell me so I could relax……
But every time he relaxed, his knee would turn off the headlights and I’d get an adrenaline spike.
https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1160921878338383872
“Diaries” which were really insurance policies.
Let’s hope there are no “FBI Strzok-authored Hitler diaries” in them. I do NOT trust the Hillary faction not to manufacture evidence. AGAIN.
What if there are…videos.
If there are ‘Epstein Videos’ then that could be another reason why the Left has been talking about “deep fakes”.
Thing is, though…older videos would pre-date the deep fake technology.
Here’s a completely different take. Hmmm.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1160567053436239872.html
“#EpsteinUpdate
“I’m hearing some strange things about Epstein up there. He was removed from suicide watch so he could be returned to general population & killed. People need to look into the Doctor who signed it & their connections as well as the Warden &…” AnonAV7 8/11/19
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“one Captain is what I’m hearing. He did not hang himself he was restrained and a pair of pants was twisted up tied into a loop placed around his neck and a nightstick or rod was inserted and twisted. They twisted it until he died to simulate a hanging. He was killed obviously.”
The whole thread is very interesting, if true.
Okay I vote that he’s not dead, don’t know why. Except it opens up the FBI raid and frees Barr to go after co-conspirators. Also been thinking about Barr/Mueller their relationship goes back. Could Barr have been brought in to give him the offer to close up the SC office and give him an official out if he spills the beans on everything? I think Mueller was being used and didn’t see anyway out without being Arkincided.
Breaking News!
DEATH…..
Is STILL…..
The World’s…
#1 KILLER!
What did Epstein hang himself from? There wouldn’t be any pipes, and I believe those beds are bolted to the floor so one couldn’t stand it up for leverage. Adjacent cells? Other prisoners would have seen what Epstein was doing…
Was the cell with bars – where a “rope” could be threaded high enough? Again, that doesn’t fit the kind of security this guy should have been under.
IMO, either an inmate or a security guard aided in this. Rich and powerful people have no problem finding someone in the prison system to take out anyone they want taken out – unless there are 24/hr tight security measures. Whitey Bulger didn’t last 24/hr once he transferred to a general population prison.
Okay, here is the latest on how he hung himself – bedsheet from top bunk…
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/details-emerge-of-how-epstein-hanged-himself/
I’m having a tough time buying this. Having been on suicide watch, he’d probably still be getting paper blankets that shouldn’t be able to support his weight. Now, they’re saying that he lowered himself onto his knees and gently leaned forward…..but if it merely closed his airway and didn’t crush his throat, asphyxiation would have caused him to twitch (its a reflex) — which should have either torn the blankets, worked them loose, or had him fall off his knees. To be gently slumped sounds like being posed.
And the authorities are being total idiots. If the situation was as described and they weren’t complicit, they could have said “he David Carradine’d himself” — and, it being Jeff Epstein, everyone would have gone: “figures.”
Agree. I’m not buying how he did it. Upthread I noted this:
I’m still trying to figure out how he managed to successfully hang himself without anyone hearing a commotion in his cell. Hanging, and dying from asphyxiation is not a quiet thing. Lot of kicking and noise…
Severely understaffed?
Who runs this place?
Who would CONTINUE to PAY “time and a half” or MOAR…..
for an extended period of time?
Hire someone else to work “Straight time”….
Unless of course…
it’s OUR $$$.
Wolf, I happened to catch a link on a twitter account today…so many people involved with Jeffrey Epstein. Way back in 2012. It may be that 50 people will be seen walking down that facility’s corridor!
In this article we see Debbie Wasserman Shultz, Obama, the US Virgin Island’s Governor and his wife…I can imagine the records will dwarf Anthony’s Weiner. Please excuse the pun.
https://news.yahoo.com/virgin-islands-governor-wife-employed-convicted-sex-offender-044706716.html
Remember – the Weiner lap top is a dangerous place for anybody to be!
Ha! Indeed! Now, if we could just remember on which shelf we stowed it…
PS and yes, his lap…top!
This is why 8Chan was shut down. Anons have been researching Little St. James for years. They’ve also reported massive refurbishments underway for a long time, over a year if I recall correctly. Some anons flew over the island, others flew drones. They posted the photos for crowd analysis. The FBI is charging ashore on a totally scrubbed island, in my opinion. We’ll see that happens.
Good to see you, realgaryseven!
Very much agreed – this is a weird WTF, and “we’ll see” is right!
Hi, Realgaryseven.
*waves*
It’s good to see you here!
Yes, I agree that this is why 8chan was shut down.
The Anons have been way ahead of everybody on digging into this…and also lots of other things that the elitist Cabal has been doing.
A couple of weeks ago, there was a dig into the surrounding islands.
Apparently Epstein *also owned* the Greater St James Island that is right next to Little St James.
There is landing strip on Greater St James, too.
The Anons dug into military records about the islands…
They turned up the fact that nearby islands were used as military installations…with extensive underground structures.
Makes sense, to have most of their installations underground, because of hurricanes and also for security.
The Anons didn’t find records of Little St James being a military installation too…at least not that I read, but may have and I missed it.
But it would make sense to have satellite islands used as auxiliary locations.
So, the underground areas on Little St James may have been there before Epstein bought it.
Here’s a link to the National Archives holdings regarding US VI:
https://www.archives.gov/nyc/finding-aids/us-virgin-islands
…The records from the Puerto Rico Engineers Office related to the U.S. Virgin Islands document civilian and military activities of the OCE including administration, coastal defense projects, construction of facilities on military bases, flood control, as well as maintenance and improvement of inland waterways and harbors. They provide geological, hydrological, and economic data about construction projects and their impact on the surrounding area. Included are correspondence, data and permit files, notebooks, reports, and studies. Construction project files contain correspondence, design memorandums, notes, plans, progress reports, specifications, and test results. Material also includes monthly reports on bridge and permit applications, probings and ranges for proposed docks, as well as a survey of Little Krum Bay, as well as material realted to Crown Mountain, St. Thomas.Nontextual records include engineering drawings, blueprints, maps, and a collection of photographs.”…
JIMHO, Epstein was whisked off in time to make the 5:am flight from Andrews AFB to Gitmo .. and breakfast.
Prior to his stay at MCC, the highest profile ‘ visitor ‘ was El chapo .You can bet,Plenty of$$ nefarious$$ probes and attempts were made to get around security .A lot was learned. whoo’s who ?
See clandestine /sneaky rod tweet posted by Marica above.Do you think they would leave the security of such a high value inmate to a NYC detention facility ?
Do you think an international crime organization would attempt a rescue from Gitmo ?.. on Alert ?
He is worthless POS dead or alive and he knows it , the protection is gone, the Gig is up and there ,at least he knows he’s safe to talk .
He enjoys the Caribbean and I hear , it’s hot hot hot in August ..
Umph, oof, umph, umph……ok, I’m just gonna drag this whole thing in here and just drop it.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/08/jeffrey-epsteins-week-in-pictures-special-edition.php
Ha!
That was outstanding. McAfee knows things, despite the press constantly depicting him as crazy.
That made my day and it’s not light outside yet.
Anybody up for some REALITY PORNO?
Seriously, this is a tabloid paper talking about the STEAMY STUFF in the Epstein release.
YOU WERE WARNED.
NSFW / Rated between R and NC-17 / Brain Bleach Recommended
https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/jeffrey-epstein-demanded-three-orgasms-a-day-like-eating-court-docs/
That article confirms some of the stuff that the Anons had discovered weeks ago…
The “egg-shaped” detail, for example.
Of course…the Anon meme-makers had a lot of fun with that one.
Heheh.
Epstein became “Eggstein”…with memes of his face perfectly photoshopped onto an egg.
I wanted to post some of it here, but thought better of it.
It’s sort of TMI for a lot of people.
I hope the Board Owner saved all that!
Mark Steyn filling in for Tucker said the Government has no idea of the whereabouts of Ghislaine Maxwell. 🤔🤔 Anyone else heard this?
Yes, she sold her NYC property and disappeared according to IPOT. There was a single report of her death suposedly but I could not find it.
AP now reporting that one of the prison guards was not officially a prison guard, just a corrections employee…
Fox News.
Engineered incompetence.
Instructions for controlled disaster…you bet, Wolf! Just cannot think anything else!
My thoughts about Epstein.
It has never made much sense to me that he attempted suicide the first time and we didn’t hear any details, AT ALL. He had attorneys. Would they not have been sob-storying all over the internet?
I think I said when the lights went out twice that they may have moved him. Or that when El Chapo was moved, it may have served as a diversion to get Epstein out.
DH asked me a good question. Would it be illegal for the U.S. Marshals to fake a death to put someone in witness protection? I don’t know the answer, and haven’t really been able to find it.
I think Epstein is most likely at Gitmo. I JUST CAN’T accept that A.G. Barr let him die. I also read somewhere that Barr visited to MCC just a week or two ago. That just doesn’t seem like the normal course of things to me.
Q said “patriots are in control.” Well, if they are, this shit didn’t happen. If they’re not, we’re screwed.
Great post Ms Eggplant!!😜 That’s why Sneaky Rods thread makes the most sense to me…Trump and Barr are pretty genius—It just “wouldn’t happen on their watch.” White Hat’s in control…I have to believe that…or you are right..We Are SCREWED!!!
Thanks, Marica. Trump and Barr ARE VSGs, so it makes sense they wouldn’t let this happen.
…”I think I said when the lights went out twice that they may have moved him. Or that when El Chapo was moved, it may have served as a diversion to get Epstein out.”…
I can’t make the link work 🙁
Ok ok its not Aliens…. But I’m side eyeing the hell out of this. I’m still 50/50 on if it was arkancide (is that how one spells it) or if he’s in Gitmo.
But I do trust Q’s comment on ‘we have it all’ so.
If you have it all then watch who does what…
So, I got thinking more about the blackouts in N.Y., and I had a thought.
What if those really WERE attempts to get Epstein, and they were thwarted? And the “suicide attempt” was really a murder attempt? Maybe that was enough for the White Hats to decide they couldn’t protect him at the MCC, so they had to move him. BUT, they didn’t want anyone to know he was moved (defeats the purpose; even people who man Guantanamo have families and maybe kids to be threatened), so they had to make it look like he was dead.
If so, you can bet there will be a rationale all laid out to justify it when his continued existence is revealed. God willing, it will be at the trial of the Hag and her minion, Beelzebubba, with assorted other perverts included.
IMO, if they faked his death, he will stay dead.
Here is an elaboration on the “alive theory”.
As you say, one or more attempts. First the blackout. Later, Epstein is found on floor, attacked by a guard who flipped temporarily into a psychotic MK state. The thing is, Epstein is FAMILIAR with MK – deeply familiar. (There is more people are going to learn here, if my latest thinking is correct on how it was used.) Epstein knows that his jig is up.
SO HE OFFERS TO COOPERATE.
Epstein is gone, replaced by an actor with similar features, professional grooming, etc. Stunt double. I won’t describe how they did this, but it’s easy.
The next MK attack happens, and we were ready for it. Psychotic guard – same one that Epstein tipped us to, is strangling Epstein, we send people in. When it’s over, guard is removed, comes out of altered state, has no memory, WE’RE READY.
We have the attempt. We play it out publicly as a successful hit. Actor is removed by people who are in on the extraction.
Epstein’s deal is that DOJ gets to pretend he’s dead, and all laws proceed accordingly.
Warden and guard / employee / witnesses / MK victims are removed from office, treated like “under investigation” (they are, but different purpose).
This is my current second theory, after REAL DEATH.
I agree with everything you wrote, it is exactly my thinking. I am not an expert on MK, but I know it can be done, and that the person would “wake up” unknowing. And the actor/stunt double is easy, too. Especially since Epstein was in a cell 23 hours a day. Nobody was looking at him for very long. He “dies,” phony EMS shows up, rolls him out uncovered so some photos get taken, and that’s it.
I think the cellmate may have been the attacker in the first episode. I mean, have you seen the guy? He’s huge! And, the cellmate was a former cop, who was himself “attacked” (by who, the Incredible Hulk?), and required “surgery” in 2018. Who knows what they put in his head?
This article is about the cellmate:
https://lawofficer.com/news/official-says-epstein-feared-hulking-ex-cop-charged-multiple-murders-cellmate/
I remember the outage in Manhattan. It seemed notable*, but I didn’t connect it with Epstein.
*As a long-time Atlas Shrugged fan, big power outages in NYC, especially at night, can carry some evocative power.
But when I saw Q’s drop about it, I immediately thought “Die Hard”, not AS.
There were actually two, within a week to ten days of each other. I checked both times and the MCC was in the outage area.
Man. we could’ve used some John McClane taking care of Epstein’s sorry ass. He might have made it to trial!
Apparently, Shirley Skipper Scott is the warden…cannot seem to find out anything about her.
Anyone else?
https://www.redstate.com/diary/kentucky_dana/2019/08/10/took-jeffrey-epstein-off-suicide-watch/
Related to Coretta Scott King?
Not sure, however, apparently she sued her way into the position…
Here’s one view of her employment: https://www.federalpay.org/employees/bureau-of-prisons-federal-prison-system/skipper-scott-shirley-v
No mention of a lawsuit.
Wow, that is quite an increase, considering she has done little and is now responsible for the premature death of one of the worst criminals in the 21st century.
OK – found it:
“Fritz
I find it curious that the current Warden of this NY MCC, one Shirley Skipper-Scott, worked as a “social scientist” in the federal system for several years at the GS-12 level (source: https://www.federalpay.org/employees/bureau-of-prisons-federal-prison-system/skipper-scott-shirley-v ).
Then, she sued AG Eric Holder for employment discrimination in 2013 (Mississippi SD, # 3:13-cv-00017 ), resolved the case in 2016, and saw her career blossom into federal prison administration at the GS-14 level, i.e., in the top 10% of federal payscale, thereafter.
So the top administrator in charge of this highest of high profile prisons, one that has held some of the most notorious criminals and defendants, has all of three years’ administrative experience?
Wow. Just wow.”
#18
August 11, 2019, at 9:53 AM PDT
LINK – https://ricochet.com/661243/it-could-be-suicide-or-murder-but-incompetence-is-a-certainty/
Promoted to 2 yrs in the prison systems of Puerto Rico, before moving to NY.
There are posts of a S S-S’s selfie giving a triangle sign at this site.
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-08132019/
And this creepy video of a reporter filming the outside of the Zorro ranch, until dogs are sent after him and his cameraman.
https://youtu.be/B3zf13gpry0
The ranch has a massive below grade footprint. Appears to be built like Disney. See evidence of a walkout basement at 13:50 and 14:15 below the portico.
The triangle hand sign is her Delta Sigma Omega sorority sign. See her facebook page. Their colors are red and white.
this video suggests evidence of construction below grade, on the island….
https://youtu.be/A83l9p5LpF0
Wow! Sorry, I have had a few late nights working this week. Wow.
They paid her off and then put her in a ridiculous position.
I wonder if even Barr’s group is looking this far back?
Where are those 2000 pages of documents? All I have see are 55, but not sure how to look it up 🤔
Enjoy:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs.html
What if after the attempt in July he sang like a canary…?
Hey, maybe Epstein had a ‘secret vault’ on that island…in the underground area…and that’s where he kept his diaries and videos of big name pedos?
And the FBI was there to retrieve them.
For the record…I think Epstein is still alive, and here’s why:
Our White Hats would know that it would have a chilling effect on all the other witnesses, if Epstein was suicided in his cell.
Our guys would know this!
They would know that the other witnesses would clam up…too afraid to talk.
I mean…duh.
So I think this whole thing, of putting Epstein there in that ‘vulnerable’ place, was a setup from the beginning.
It would make sense to stage Epstein’s death and whisk him away to a safe location.
The witnesses are probably being told…”How do you know that Epstein is really dead?”
With a wink and a nod.
And I would imagine that the witnesses are being given 24 hr protection.
That’s my theory, anyway.
🤓😏😎
As I said above, Where are Maxwell and Chandler???
Epstein may have been the ‘face’ but I think they were the STRINGS going back to the Puppet Masters.
What if the spot light was on EXPENDABLE Epstein while the valuble players were whisked away?
Oooooh, you just gave me a thought.
What if there IS a VAULT, and Epstein’s death triggered a dead man’s switch?
He’s killed (or suicides, for argument’s sake), and a designated person calls up the FIB and tells them where to look.
On Pedo Island.
Yep…I thought about that too.
And that’s a very real possibility.
But that would be IF he is really dead.
I tend to think that Epstein made a deal to turn over all that he had…his ‘insurance policy’…in return for helping him to disappear.
I can see him telling the Feds:
“If I give you everything I have, then I’m a dead man.”
So the Feds told him:
“We can arrange for you to ‘be dead’ and then disappear.”
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I’m thinking it was Ms. Scarlet, in the Conservatory, with the rope.
[my apologies if someone already guessed that]
My money is on Col. Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick, but who knows.
You’re confused. It was Whitey Bulger that got whacked with the candlestick in the library.
I haven’t read the other posts yet, but this is most cynical and Machiavellian possibility I’ve come up with.
A) the government, thanks to the NSA and search warrants, already had all the information they needed, so Epstein had nothing to bargain with, and the prosecutors didn’t need him
B) as far as prosecutors are concerned, he deserves the death penalty
C) so why not use him as bait, to get whoever orders the hit on murder-for-hire charges
So do something really stupid, like putting Epstein in one of the most corrupt correctional facilities in the country, and see how long it takes for someone to kill him.
You have the NSA monitoring everything, all the time, anyway (if they intercepted Nellie Ohr’s coded Hamm radio messages, they’ve got EVERYTHING…), you just sit back and listen for Clinton or Soros or Hussein or whomever to give the order to an underling, and then the underling to the next crook, and so on, all the way to the killer inside the prison.
Or you do it backwards.
How hard can it be, when you the target (Epstein), you control the setting (the prison), there is a short window of opportunity (I’m surprised he lasted a month), and you know all the possible suspects (Clinton, Soros, Hussein and their entire network of pedo lackeys).
Wait for the killer to strike. It WAS captured on video, regardless of what they tell us.
Once you know who the killer is — which they knew immediately, I’m sure they watched it happen — the NSA follows every communication the killer received (email, recorded phone calls, lawyer visits, etc.), and does the same ‘trace’ for everyone on the same floor as the prisoner, in case the orders came from another prisoner who was in contact with the outside.
Follow the lines of communication right up the chain to the person who ordered the hit. Any of the probable suspects should already be under constant FISA surveillance anyway, so there are multiple angles to pursue, to get to the source.
This way, they save taxpayers the cost of a lengthy trial and prison sentence, Epstein is dead, and whoever ordered the hit gets a bonus of going down for premeditated contract murder.
You may be right. There is NO BAIT LIKE EPSTEIN.
NONE. The Clintons or their backers HAVE TO GO AFTER HIM.
Why not be ready?
AND it would work well to convince Maxwell and Chandler to TALK FAST to score plastic surgery & Witness proptection…
That was my thought as well that Epstein was used as bait. There’s so many federal prisons with tighter security, why put him in Manhattan?
Who has read Natural News guy’s latest on the Perv’s demise?
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-12-alternate-theory-emerges-jeffrey-epstein-swapped-out-of-his-cell.html
Except that I’m not convinced he’s dead, unless he was drugged before someone used a sheet to smother him.
Maybe not drugged – see below!
Can somebody be MK’d to kill himself?
Seems a bit of a stretch, or at least a major technical challenge, unless the subject already has some kind of death wish.
But if you are a puppet master, and Epstein is a major player in your “puppet string” operation, or at least the faceman and marketing guy, who samples the merchandise so the “customers”, (candidate puppets), know what is available, it sure would be useful if he came with his own built-in self-destruct switch, that could be activated by verbal command, through prison walls, as it were.
I believe, based on observation of cases where I am of the opinion that the people WERE subject to individual MK, that SOME people can be programmed to commit suicide, but it has to be something that is ALLOWED by both SHORT-TERM DESIRE and a LACK of of LONG-TERM INHIBITORS. Satanists, the death-obsessed, those who have sexualized death, etc., are particularly subject to suicide, just like they are useful for murder.
Note that COMMISSION OF A CRIME UNDER MK followed by “allowed realization” plus any programming to encourage suicide as an escape can create the necessary mental state to overcome weak defenses against suicide.
A HARD BLOCK on suicide is possible by a DEEP belief in God and theology forbidding suicide. This will typically divert the outcome to something else.
There are other, cruder (but still somewhat ingenious) ways to induce suicide, but they are subject to the same sorts of blocks and inhibitors. The Google whistleblower forces my hand on this. To protect witnesses and whistlebowers, I need to raise their paranoia levels sufficiently to protect them from real dangers.
The Google whistleblower is aware of the fact that Google and the Deep State want a “mental illness” narrative. What he may or may not realize is that there are chemical means to induce states remarkably close to normal organic mental illness. Indeed, it becomes something of a moot point whether it actually is or isn’t mental illness, but the TRAJECTORY is different when induced chemically. If it can be limited to a single assault, the prognosis for a swift (weeks to low months) recovery is good. That dirty secret needs to be understood, as well as how to deal with it. The Deep State, of course, will try to get an evaluation within that time-frame. This is one of the best ways to discredit a target.
KNOWING that one has been chemically assaulted, and that it WILL end in recovery, is a strong tool to withstand the assault.
Some of these agents begin acting quickly – within MINUTES for certain acute effects. I have good speculations on what classes of substances are used, but nothing proven. In general, they seem to mimic biological pathways of the organic mental diseases they induce, but not exactly, by necessity.
Thanks!
For various reasons, I’m particularly interested in the Google whistleblowers and their continued physical and mental health.
So that part of your answer was serendipitous! More than I was hoping for!
Good. I wish them the best of health and strength. Friends of truth don’t let friends of truth get sucker-punched by Deep State.
Scott’s theory of using Epstein as bait makes sense to me, but it presents a problem.
To my knowledge, there is no legal mechanism that allows an officer of the law to use a US citizen as bait, no matter what the citizen has done. Indeed, we have a Constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment of guilty citizens that would preclude using Epstein in this manner.
PDJT has been meticulous in staying within the bounds of the law in his quest to clean up the Deep State, as he must be if, in the future, we are to be ruled by laws rather than men.
For this reason, I think Epstein was tried and executed some time ago. This episode was staged to explain his disappearance, and to show the black hats that there is a new sheriff in town.
Trump wouldn’t go along with the bait thing, I agree. I disagree with Trump’s quest to clean up the deep state. I no longer believe he wants to do any such thing. He refuses to take any action against them when he has a chance. He wouldn’t even release the declass information to the public. He rarely if ever talks about draining the swamp anymore, only economic stuff & a little about immigration. This is not how I imagined a Trump administration would be like. I fully expected the Clintons to be in prison by the end of 2017. The DoJ could have been cleaned up in 60 days. Instead of bringing in his outsiders, his “killers” he talked about during the campaign, he used beltway hacks who all back stabbed him. He takes advice from his enemies, & Tweets about it when they screw him over. SMH This crap is still going on today.
That’s a bit of an Eeyore perspective, but I can see how there is evidence that supports it.
I think the job is taking longer than you estimate because it is inherently very difficult.
How do you clean up the government and restore the rule of law when two of your most powerful tools, Main Justice and FBI, are hopelessly corrupted, full both of active conspirators and of “sleeper agents” who come highly recommended and whose record seems clean, but who backstab or go inert when put into important positions of trust.
It’s a chicken-and-egg problem, and he is working on it very successfully. But it is taking longer than we would like, and even substantially longer than was part of the Plan.
No battle plan survives contact with the enemy, and this enemy has a lot of resources (albeit not as many as in January 2017 !! ) and is both determined and has a lot of animal cunning and ruthlessness. The enemy has employed delaying tactics and other countermeasures very successfully. I’ve written here recently the Plan might have been delayed by as much as a year. This is due to Müller, to sleepers, to the machinations of the Senate intelligence committee, and to other factors.
But around the time Herr Müller, A.K.A. Sideshow Bob, released the Weissman dossier this spring, Q promised things would go a lot faster, and they have. Last month, following Sideshow Bob’s pathetic swan song, Q promised that things would go faster yet, and this also has been true.
As for running on cleaning up the government, events have reached a point where he would prefer for him and his team to do it, rather than to talk about it. And he refers to it happening in his tweets, rather than make more promises about it.
Also, he hasn’t needed to keep running on draining the swamp explicitly, since there has been Q to keep us informed. And it is MUCH more effective for us to inform our own families, friends, and acquaintances, and make memes and tweet and retweet them, than for him to talk about the fight against the Deep State.
I hope this allays your fears.
Trump 2024. Trump 2028. After watching Don Jr., I’m thinking we could really make Deep State’s diminishing future a kind of hell on Earth for those devils. They will WISH they had gotten it over in 8 years.
Bwaahaahaahaa‼️
This guy is working a DIVERGENCE between CBS (reporting an uncomfortable fact) and David Axelrod-controlled NBC (covering it up).
Ok, so I’ll go ahead & throw my take into the hopper. Using what we all have seen & experienced for the last three years, I have to go with the simplest & unfortunately the worst of the theories. For events such as the “mass shootings” I start out looking for the all too familiar patterns of the known deep state hits. If I see the same old pattern, I know to assign the “suspicious” tag to the event & proceed accordingly. This latest killing fits those patterns perfectly. All the tells line up perfectly, almost too perfectly. I figure that is because for something as important as this, the DS fell back on the old tried and true operational methods. After all, they always worked in the past.
I’m certain that this was a deep state hit for obvious reasons. They didn’t want the optics of him talking in open court. So that would indicate that since he was being housed in the most corrupt district I can think of, & in a cracker box of a jail etc, the cameras failed, the guards were tired, bla bla bla, all the pieces fit the pattern. This setup had to be laid on above the AG office level. Ask yourself, WHO controls all the logistics? Who can make all this happen? Easy, AG Bill Barr.
Barr isn’t incompetent. He’s been around for decades & well knows how all this works. Why wasn’t Epstein in a secure undisclosed location? Why weren’t there eyes on him 24\7? He allowed Epstein to be dealt with as some street thug or hooker would be, instead of the most high value prisoner in the country. WHY? Who’s call was it? Barr.
Judging by what we’ve all seen for many years, I’m forced to conclude absent information to the contrary that Barr is deep state like most other Trump appointees. President Trump apparently trusted him to handle this. He handled it all right, but not as Trump wanted, but what the deep state wanted. President Trump also didn’t follow through on security arrangements for this extremely important “drain the swamp” puzzle piece. Does Trump just want all this deep state stuff to go away? He already admitted that he was going to let Clinton skate. Has he realized that it’s too big to fix? Is he worried about his family? Has he backed off? These are unanswered questions.
You have no idea how much I hope I’m wrong.
you are probably not too far from the truth… the big wigs are too big because their big wigs are too big, etc, etc…
there is no breaking out of this without a fight so large and so massive that it will blow your mind. there are too many distractions. too many loose ends and many more that are ready to be loosened in order to distract you.
unless people are willing to fight to the end – unless people are willing to endure great distress and be able to survive like we haven’t survived since days gone by – then we will never see the end of it the way we imagine we want to…
finance, immigration, social justice (et al), climate change, fill in the blank here, and now the full on war against a certain color of people that i will not name (but their initials are white nationalists apparently) – all of it is a distraction to keep everyone in check.
real any or all of the cataclysmic ends of the age written in any book of whatever religion or civilization that you want – that’s what we have left to look forward to at this point – that is our only chance. a little release on the pressure valve here and there, a little “winning” here and there is not enough. it’s enough to keep people placated, reserved and behaving nice, but none of it matters.
we the people – and all the “we the people” of the earth – are only pawns in a game. we do not move the pieces as much as we think we do (or think we can). when we realize that and see the realistic fact you can start to get a sense of where it’s going my friend. prepare and get ready. don’t keep putting faith in a man or a woman or a group or whatever. their worst fear is we wake up. and even the president is going to be powerless to make lasting change. some fear this, others know the truth even if it really really hurts. the sooner you accept it and are ready for whatever, the better!
we will never overcome the powers that be – we just hope the powers that are to come are 1) able to and 2) are friendly to our plight if you know what i mean.
many i talk to every day have all kinds of theories, many varied beliefs (religious), etc – and one thing i tell everyone is “i hope for your sake it is just as you THINK it is, because you are going to be very disappointed if you have been led astray even if you have the best of intentions it might not turn out to be what you have been told to believe”…
but i say bring it on and let’s ride the wave and everyone of the same mind let’s stick together and do our best!
and just to clarify my stance:
i DO NOT KNOW what the truth is. i DO NOT KNOW the answers.
but i can say this with all my conviction of heart soul and mind:
if you THINK you know the truth – if you THINK you know the answers – then that is the biggest hole to fall into. when you KNOW something your mind is already closed off to anything that you cannot fit into that little crevice that you call your truth… don’t fall for that trap. question everyone, everything, and never ever stop searching for the fallacies in your own “belief” and you will do yourself a great service. (hat tip to my ww2 vet grandfather for that statement when i was 10 years old).
I didn’t mean to leave the impression that we cannot win this thing. We absolutely can defeat the deep state. We just can’t beat them by playing nice & by the rules, like Trump has been doing. It’s to his credit that he has chosen to go that route, he is an honest & forthright man. He strives to do the right thing at all times. But, when your entrenched enemy has been in power for a long time AND has been making all the rules to provide cover and concealment for their seditious activities, if you play nice, you will lose. The deck is stacked against you at every turn. That’s what we have been witnessing for three years.
As I’ve posted elsewhere & been slammed for it, this is not politics as usual and it is not a game. This is for the country. For realzies. Do we want America to continue to exist as the founders intended or not? If we do, then we must be willing to do whatever it takes to ensure victory. If bending the rules temporarily is necessary, so be it. We can & I believe Trump will return us to the letter & spirit of our founding documents…when it is over & we have restored our nation. Time is running out though. Look how long it’s taken just to get this far. His first term has pretty much been ruined. A second term is not assured. Trump must overcome deep state election fraud that will be off the charts. The great economy isn’t enough to overcome that. He needs something much bigger.
I also have a feeling that Trump is attempting to spare the people from the hardships and civil unrest that would occur if he were to lay it all out & burn it all down. I am also certain that that is exactly what it will take for us to win. We must again walk through the fire to regain our country. It will be hard, mistakes will be made. What matters in the end is, we won.
First time Im seeing this so adding
The comments from the nation’s top law enforcement officer came two days after Epstein was found dea https://personalliberty.com/investigators-uncovering-serious-irregularities-at-nyc-federal-lockup-where-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself-barr-says/
good one for response on Epstein
Hmmm intresting if he telling truth
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1161784416458252288?s=20