The photo above is one for the ages.
While we are all aware of the news by this point, we can use this thread to accumulate info for further use. Use this thread as our own historical record. Here, we can dump info details, maps, credit to various agencies, comments, etc.
We’ll start with the statement from the President, the ensuing presser, and work backwards…. and by the way, God Bless Our Military! Full transcript is located at the bottom of this post.
It started with a single Tweet from President Trump at 8:23pm on a Saturday night during the World Series.
If the WH stream fades away, here is another one. (Update, WH link is now posted on Youtube – link is below)
Here is the White House statement on Baghdadi:
Lindsey Graham was apparently in the WH Situation Room when it happened. He spoke from the WH podium. Where was Mitch McConnell???????? Video is not available as yet but we will post when it hits. Lindsey did post this at 10:08am. UPDATE: Video of Graham Presser available at 1:22pm
I’ll let you guys fill in all the extra details. It’s a good day for the world. God Bless our Military and the dog who was injured.
Americans never forget.
Per Maria Bartiromo: “We called Debbie Dingell of Michigan to come on the show.” As of 11:47am, FOX News had “not heard from the leadership of the Dem Party on reaction to the incredible news” of the Death of the #1 Terrorist in the World…… silence.
Per Maria Bartiromo: As of 11:53, “We are just getting reaction from House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi….. someone must be watching”. Interesting. “While the death of this leader is significant it does not mean ISIS is dead”….. and she goes on to demand a briefing. Snippy response. No praise for our military, etc. (I was proven wrong 75 minutes later, Pelosi did praise military in beginning of her statement.)
Update, 1:15PM: Official Pelosi Statement:
Pelosi Statement on Al-Baghdadi Raid
OCTOBER 27, 2019 PRESS RELEASE
Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement after ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in a U.S. military raid:“Americans salute the heroism, dedication and skill of our military and our intelligence professionals and acknowledge the work of our partners in the region. We are relieved that no U.S. personnel died in this daring raid.
“The death of al-Baghdadi is significant, but the death of this ISIS leader does not mean the death of ISIS. Scores of ISIS fighters remain under uncertain conditions in Syrian prisons, and countless others in the region and around the world remain intent on spreading their influence and committing acts of terror.
“This month, the House passed a joint resolution on an overwhelmingly bipartisan 354-60 basis which rejects President Trump’s green-lighting of Turkish aggression into Syria against our Kurdish partners, and calls on him to present a clear strategy to defeat ISIS. The House must be briefed on this raid, which the Russians but not top Congressional Leadership were notified of in advance, and on the Administration’s overall strategy in the region. Our military and allies deserve strong, smart and strategic leadership from Washington.”
Nancy Pelosi
Please continue to check Q Tree Daily Thread for minute-by-minute response from our members.
Per Dora and others, much has been made of the the connection between John McCain and Al Baghdadi.
In the immediate aftermath of the successful raid, the media has decided to make the raid political. The pundits are questioning why the Dem Leaders in Congress were not notified when Lindsey was at the White House and Chairman Burr of Senate Intel was notified (talk about a leaker, yikes!)
Anyway, Glen Greenwald has already located a 2015 NYTimes article about the 2012 Osama Bin Laden raid, which explained as follows. WH attorneys deemed justifiable delay t notification of Congress during the raid……. yet Leon Panetta, unable to contain himself, blabbed to Congress without permission. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1188496336473219073
Media Response: Unreal to watch the NYC/DC media twist themselves into a pretzel to defend terrorists…… cuz orange man is bad.
At 9:31am, Eastern Time on October 27, 2019, the Washington Post surprised the world with this headline: “Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, extremist leader of Islamic State, dies at 48” https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-islamic-states-terrorist-in-chief-dies-at-48/2019/10/27/0d004abc-663d-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html
The reaction from the public was swift and #WashingtonPostDeathNotice trended for most of the day.
Later in the day, several times, WaPost attempted to correct the headline after blowback.
The reaction from Bloomberg tried to outdo the terrorist pandering of the WaPost. From Bloomberg: “… Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi transformed himself from a little-known teacher of Koranic recitation into the self-proclaimed ruler of an entity that covered swaths of Syria and Iraq”
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Transcript from The President’s Announcement
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Last night, the United States brought the world’s number one terrorist leader to justice. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead. He was the founder and leader of ISIS, the most ruthless and violent terror organization in the World. The United States has been searching for Baghdadi for many years. Capturing or killing Baghdadi has been the top national security priority of my Administration. U.S. Special Operations forces executed a dangerous and daring nighttime raid into Northwestern Syria to accomplish this mission.
No U.S. personnel were lost in the operation, while a large number of Baghdadi’s fighters and companions were killed with him. He died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming. The compound had been cleared by this time, with people either surrendering or being shot and killed. Eleven young children were moved out of the house un-injured. The only ones remaining were Baghdadi in the tunnel, who had dragged three children with him to certain death. He reached the end of the tunnel, as our dogs chased him down. He ignited his vest, killing himself and the three children. His body was mutilated by the blast, but test results gave certain and positive identification.
The thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments in utter fear, panic and dread – terrified of the American Forces bearing down.We were in the compound for approximately 2 hours, and after the mission was accomplished we took highly sensitive material and information from the raid.Baghdadi’s demise demonstrates America’s relentless pursuit of terrorist leaders, and our commitment to the enduring and total defeat of ISIS!The reach of America is long. As you know, last month we announced that we recently killed Hamza Bin Laden, the very violent son of Osama Bin Laden, who was saying very bad things.
He was the heir apparent to Al Qaeda. Terrorists who oppress and murder innocent people should never sleep soundly, knowing that we will completely destroy them. These savage monsters will not escape their fate – and they will not escape the final judgement of God.
Baghdadi has been on the run for many years, long before I took office. At my direction, as Commander-in-Chief, the United States obliterated his ‘caliphate’ in March of this year. Today’s events are another reminder that we will continue to pursue the remaining ISIS terrorists to their brutal end.
Baghdadi and the losers who worked with him – in some cases people who had no idea what they were getting into and how dangerous and unglamorous it was – killed many people. Their murder of innocent Americans Jim Foley, Steven Sotloff, Peter Kassig, and Kayla Mueller were especially heinous. The shocking publicized murder of a Jordanian pilot who was burned alive in a cage for all to see, and the execution of Christians in Libya and Egypt, as well as the genocidal mass murder of Yazidis, rank ISIS among the most depraved organizations in history.
The forced religious conversions, the orange suits prior to many beheadings, all of which were openly displayed for the world – this was all Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s work. He was vicious and violent, and he died in a vicious and violent way, as a coward, running and crying. This raid was impeccable, and could only have taken place with the acknowledgement and help of certain other nations and people.
I want to thank the nations of Russia, Turkey, Syria and Iraq, and I also want to thank the Syrian Kurds for certain support they were able to give us. Thank you as well to the great intelligence professionals who helped make this very successful journey possible.
I want to thank the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines involved in last night’s operation. You are the very best there is anywhere in the world. I want to thank General Mark Milley and our Joint Chiefs of Staff, and I also want to thank our professionals who work in other agencies of the United States government and were critical to the mission’s success.
Last night was a great night for the United States and for the World. A brutal killer, one who has caused so much hardship and death, was violently eliminated – he will never again harm another innocent man, woman or child. He died like a dog. He died like a coward. The world is now a much safer place.
God bless the United States of America!
Comments from The President of The United States on the death of Al Baghdadi, October 27, 2019.
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Question and Answer Session
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Any questions?
Q When did you first hear that this was — operation was going to get started?
THE PRESIDENT: We’ve had him under surveillance for a couple of weeks. We knew a little bit about where he was going, where he was heading. We had very good information that he was going to another location. He didn’t go. Two or three efforts were cancelled because he decided to change his mind — constantly changing his mind. And, finally, we saw that he was here, held up here. We knew something about the compound. We knew it had tunnels. The tunnels were a dead-end, for the most part. There was one, we think, that wasn’t. But we had that covered too, just in case.
The level of intelligence, the level of work, was pretty amazing. When we landed with eight helicopters, a large crew of brilliant fighters ran out of those helicopters and blew holes into the side of the building, not wanting to go through the main door because that was booby-trapped. And there was something — it was something really amazing to see. I got to watch it, along with General Milley, Vice President Pence, others, in the Situation Room. And we watched it so clearly.
Q They had body cameras? Or how did you watch the —
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I don’t want to say how, but we had absolutely perfect — as though you were watching a movie. It was — that — the technology there alone is really great.
A big part of the trip that was of great danger was the — it was approximately an hour and 10-minute flight, and we were flying over very, very dangerous territory. In fact, some of our leaders said that that could be the most dangerous — flying in and flying out. And that’s why, last night, we were so quiet about it. We didn’t say anything, and I didn’t make my remark until after they had landed safely in a certain area.
But the flight in, the flight out, was a very, very dangerous part. There was a chance that we would have met unbelievable fire. Russia treated us great. They opened up. We had to fly over certain Russia areas, Russia-held areas. Russia was great. Iraq was excellent. We really had great cooperation.
And you have to understand: They didn’t know what we were doing and where we were going, exactly. But the ISIS fighters are hated as much by Russia and some of these other countries as they are by us. And that’s why I say they should start doing a lot of the fighting now, and they’ll be able to. I really believe they’ll be able to.
Yes, Jennifer?
Q Sir, can you say what role the Kurds played in this, just generally?
THE PRESIDENT: They gave us not a military role at all, but they gave us some information that turned out to be helpful, the Kurds.
Q And can you tell us what the role of Turkey might have been, and Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: Who?
Q What was the role of Turkey? How did they help?
THE PRESIDENT: Turkey — we dealt with them. They know we were going in. We flew over some territory. They were terrific. No problem. They were not problem. You know, they could start shooting, and then we will take them out. But a lot of bad things can happen. Plus, it was a very secret mission. We flew very, very low and very, very fast. But it was a big — it was a very dangerous part of the mission. Getting in and getting out too, equal. We went in identical — we took an identical route. We met with gunfire coming in, but it was local gunfire. That gunfire was immediately terminated. These people are amazing. They had the gunfire terminated immediately, meaning they were shot from the airships.
Q I’m trying to understand the timing. You talked earlier — you know, several weeks — about pulling troops out, you know, and then troops were put back in. And then, you know — I’m trying to understand the timing of when this operation — how it fits —
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I’ll tell you, from the first day I came to office — and now we’re getting close to three years — I would say, “Where’s al-Baghdadi? I want al-Baghdadi.” And we would kill terrorist leaders, but they were names I never heard of. They were names that weren’t recognizable and they weren’t the big names. Some good ones, some important ones, but they weren’t the big names. I kept saying, “Where’s al-Baghdadi?” And a couple of weeks ago, they were able to scope him out.
You know, these people are very smart. They’re not into the use of cellphones anymore. They’re not — they’re very technically brilliant. You know, they use the Internet better than almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump. But they use the Internet incredibly well.
And what they’ve done with the Internet, through recruiting and everything — and that’s why he died like a dog, he died like a coward. He was whimpering, screaming, and crying. And, frankly, I think it’s something that should be brought out so that his followers and all of these young kids that want to leave various countries, including the United States, they should see how he died. He didn’t die a hero. He died a coward — crying, whimpering, screaming, and bringing three kids with him to die a certain death. And he knew the tunnel had no end. I mean, it was a — it was a closed-end — they call it a closed-end tunnel. Not a good place to be.
Q So this was going on before you made the announcement that you’re pulling them out?
THE PRESIDENT: I’ve been looking for him for three years. I’ve been looking for him. I started getting some very positive feedback about a month ago, and we had some incredible intelligence officials that did a great job. That’s what they should be focused on.
Q And about what time did this operation start yesterday, sir? And have you notified the leaders on —
THE PRESIDENT: Well, this operation started two weeks ago, in terms of the real operation, because we had him scoped. We thought he’d be in a certain location. He was. Things started checking out very well. We were involved, on our own team, with some brilliant people who I’ve gotten to know. Brilliant people that love our country. Highly intelligent people. And we — we’ve had it pretty well scoped out for a couple of weeks.
But he tends to change immediately. He had a lot of cash. He tends to change, like, on a dime, where he’ll be going to a certain location. All of a sudden, he’ll go someplace else and you’ll have to cancel.
But this was one where we knew he was there. And you can never be 100 percent sure because you’re basing it on technology, more than anything else. But we thought he was there, and then we got a confirmation. And when we went in, they were greeted with a lot of firepower. A lot of firepower.
I’ll tell you, these guys, they do a job. They are so brave and so good. And, so importantly, many of his people were killed. And we’ll announce the exact number over the next 24 hours. But many were killed. We lost nobody. Think of that. It’s incredible.
Q And when you told the Russians, you requested permission —
THE PRESIDENT: Our dog was hurt. Actually, the K-9 was hurt, went into the tunnel. But we lost nobody.
Q And so you requested to the Russians to fly over this area they controlled. What did you tell them —
THE PRESIDENT: We spoke to the Russians.
Q What did you tell them you were going to do?
THE PRESIDENT: We told them we’re coming in.
Q Okay.
THE PRESIDENT: And they said, “Thank you for telling us.” They were very good.
Q But did you tell them why? No? You just —
THE PRESIDENT: No. They did not know why.
Q Was any other country given —
THE PRESIDENT: We did tell them, “We think you’re going to be very happy.” Because, you know, again, they hate ISIS as much as we do. You know what ISIS has done to Russia. So, no, we did not tell — they did not know the mission, but they knew we were going over an area that they had — they had a lot of firepower.
Q And have you notified the congressional leaders about this? Pelosi? Mitch McConnell?
THE PRESIDENT: We’ve notified some. Others are being notified now, as I speak. We were going to notify them last night but we decided not to do that because Washington leaks like I’ve never seen before. There’s nothing — there’s no country in the world that leaks like we do. And Washington is a leaking machine. And I told my people we will not notify them until the — our great people are out. Not just in, but out. I don’t want to have them greeted with firepower like you wouldn’t believe.
So we were able to get in. It was top secret. It was kept. There were no leaks, no nothing. The only people that knew were the few people that I dealt with. And again, Mark Milley and the Joint Chiefs of Staff were incredible. We had some tremendous backup. Robert O’Brien, Secretary Esper, Secretary Pompeo. Pence, I told you, he was great. There’s a very small group of people that knew about this. We had very, very few people. A leak — a leak could have cost the death of all of them.
Now, they’re so good that I think nothing was going to stop them anyway, if you want to know the truth. That’s how good they were. We had them also surrounded by massive airpower. Up in the air, yesterday, surrounded at very high levels. We were very low. We had tremendous airpower.
Q And you watched all this from the Sit Room? Who were you with in the Sit Room when you watched this?
THE PRESIDENT: Secretary Esper, a few of the Joint Chiefs, Mark Milley, some generals. We had some very great military people in that room. And we had some great intelligence people — Robert O’ Brien. It was really great.
Yes.
Q Was the pullout of the U.S. troops in Syria last month strategically tied in with this raid? Was it —
THE PRESIDENT: No, no, the pullout —
Q Is this a red herring?
THE PRESIDENT: Right. Sure. It’s a great question. And you’re doing a great job, by the way. Your network is fantastic. They’re really doing a great job. Please let them know.
Q Yes, sir. Thank you.
THE PRESIDENT: No, the pullout had nothing to do with this. In fact, we found this out at a similar time. It’s a very good question — because we found this out at a similar time.
No, we’re after these leaders. And we have others in sight, very bad ones. But this was the big one. This is the biggest one, perhaps, that we’ve ever captured, because this is the one that built ISIS, and beyond, and was looking to rebuild it again. Very, very strongly looking to build it again. That’s why he went to this province; this is why he went to this area.
You know, a lot of people — I was watching, this morning, and hearing, and they said, “Why was he there?” People were so surprised. Well, that’s where he was trying to rebuild from because that was the place that made most sense, if you’re looking to rebuild.
Yeah.
Q You sent out your tweet last night. At what moment did you decide to send that?
THE PRESIDENT: So, I sent that right after I knew they had landed safely.
Q When they had returned?
THE PRESIDENT: Right. And that was to notify you guys that you have something big this morning, so you wouldn’t be out playing golf or tennis, or otherwise being indisposed.
Q Where did they land? Where were they safe? Where had they landed?
THE PRESIDENT: I’d rather not say. But we landed in a very friendly port in a friendly country.
Q Does this give you any pause by your decision to withdraw the troops?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I think it’s great. Look, we don’t want to keep soldiers between Syria and Turkey for the next 200 years. They’ve been fighting for hundreds of years. We’re out. But we are leaving soldiers to secure the oil. And we may have to fight for the oil. It’s okay. Maybe somebody else wants the oil, in which case they have a hell of a fight. But there’s massive amounts of oil.
And we’re securing it for a couple of reasons. Number one, it stops ISIS, because ISIS got tremendous wealth from that oil. We have taken it. It’s secured.
Number two — and again, somebody else may claim it, but either we’ll negotiate a deal with whoever is claiming it, if we think it’s fair, or we will militarily stop them very quickly. We have tremendous power in that part of the world. We have — you know, the airport is right nearby. A very big, very monstrous, very powerful airport, and very expensive airport that was built years ago. We were in there — we’re in that Middle East now for $8 trillion.
So we don’t want to be keeping Syria and Turkey. They’re going to have to make their own decision. The Kurds have worked along incredibly with us, but in all fairness, it was much easier dealing with the Kurds after they went through three days of fighting, because that was a brutal three days. And if I — we would have said to the Kurds, “Hey, do you mind moving over seven miles?” Because, you know, they were in the middle, mostly. So you have seven or eight miles. “Could you mind moving over?”
Because, I have to say, Turkey has taken tremendous deaths from that part of the world. You know, we call it a safe zone. But it was anything but a safe zone. Turkey has lost thousands and thousands people from that safe zone. So they’ve always wanted that safe zone, for many years. I’m glad I was able to help them get it. But we don’t want to be there; we want to be home. I want our soldiers home or fighting something that’s meaningful.
I’ll tell you who loves us being there: Russia and China. Because while they build their military, we’re depleting our military there. So, Russia loves us being there. Now, Russia likes us being there for two reasons: because we kill ISIS, we kill terrorists, and they’re very close to Russia. We’re 8,000 miles away. Now, maybe they can get here, but we’ve done very well with Homeland Security and the ban, which, by the way, is approved by the United States Supreme Court, as you know. You know, there was a reporter that said we lost the case. And he was right, in the early court. He refu- — he didn’t want to say; just refused to say that we won the case in the Supreme Court. So, you know.
But we have a very effective ban, and it’s very hard for people to come to our country. But it’s many thousands of miles away, whereas Russia is right there, Turkey is right there. Syria is there. They’re all right there. Excuse me, Iran is right there. Iraq is right there. They all hate ISIS. So, we don’t — you know, in theory, they should do something.
And I’ll give you something else: The European nations have been a tremendous disappointment because I personally called, but my people called a lot. “Take your ISIS fighters.” And they didn’t want them. They said, “We don’t want them.” They came from France, they came from Germany, they came from the UK. They came from a lot of countries. And I actually said to them, “If you don’t take them, I’m going to drop them right on your border. And you can have fun capturing them again.”
But the United States taxpayer is not going to pay for the next 50 years. You see what Guantanamo costs. We’re not going to pay tens of billions of dollars because we were good enough to capture people that want to go back to Germany, France, UK, and other parts of Europe. And they can walk back. They can’t walk to our country. We have lots of water in between our country and them.
So, yeah. Go.
Q You mentioned that you met some — gotten to know some brilliant people along this process who really helped provide information and advice along the way. Is there anyone in particular, or would you like to give anyone credit for getting to this point today?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I would, but if I mentioned one, I have to mention so many. I spoke to Senator Richard Burr this morning. And, as you know, he’s very involved with intelligence and the committee. And he’s a great gentleman.
I spoke with Lindsey Graham just a little while ago. In fact, Lindsey Graham is right over here. And he’s been very much involved in this subject. And he’s — he’s a very strong hawk. But I think Lindsey agrees with what we’re doing now.
And, again, there are plenty of other countries that can help them patrol. I don’t want to leave 1,000 or 2,000 or 3,000 soldiers on the border.
But where Lindsey and I totally agree is the oil. The oil is, you know, so valuable for many reasons. It fueled ISIS, number one. Number two, it helps the Kurds, because it’s basically been taken away from the Kurds. They were able to live with that oil. And number three, it can help us because we should be able to take some also. And what I intend to do, perhaps, is make a deal with an Exxon Mobil or one of our great companies to go in there and do it properly. Right now, it’s not big. It’s big oil underground, but it’s not big oil up top, and much of the machinery has been shot and dead. It’s been through wars. But — and — and spread out the wealth.
But, no, we’re protecting the oil. We’re securing the oil. Now, that doesn’t mean we don’t make a deal at some point. But I don’t want to be — they’re fighting for 1,000 years, they’re fighting for centuries. I want to bring our soldiers back home. But I do want to secure the oil.
If you read about the history of Donald Trump — I was a civilian. I had absolutely nothing to do with going into Iraq, and I was totally against it. But I always used to say, “If they’re going to go in…” — nobody cared that much, but it got written about. “If they’re going to go in…” — I’m sure you’ve heard the statement, because I made it more than any human being alive. “If they’re going into Iraq, keep the oil.” They never did. They never did.
I know Lindsey Graham had a bill where basically we would have been paid back for all of the billions of dollars that we’ve spent — many, many billions of dollars. I mean, I hate to say it, it’s actually trillions of dollars, but many, many billions of dollars. And, by one vote, they were unable to get that approved in the Senate. They had some pretty big opposition from people that shouldn’t have opposed, like a president. And they weren’t able. If you did that, Iraq would be a much different story today because they would be owing us a lot of money. They would be treating us much differently.
But I will say, Iraq was very good with respect to the raid last night.
Q Sir, just to pin down the timing a little bit better here: You got back to the White House around 4:30 yesterday afternoon. Did you immediately go to the Situation Room?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I knew all about this for three days.
Q Yes, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. We thought, for three days, this is what was going to happen. It was actually — look, nobody was even hurt. Our K-9, as they call — I call it a dog, a beautiful dog, a talented dog — was injured and brought back. But we had no soldier injured. And they did a lot of shooting, and they did a lot of blasting, even not going through the front door. You know, you would think you go through the door. If you’re a normal person, you say, “Knock, knock. May I come in?” The fact is that they blasted their way into the house and a very heavy wall, and it took them literally seconds. By the time those things went off, they had a beautiful, big hole, and they ran in and they got everybody by surprise.
Unbelievably brilliant, as fighters. I don’t — I can’t imagine there could be anybody better. And these, as you know, are our top operations people.
Q And Baghdadi apparently had been in bad health for some time. Was there any indication of that? Or —
THE PRESIDENT: Well, we don’t know that. But he was the last one out, and his people had either been killed, which there were many, or gave up and came out. Because with the 11 children that came out, we were able to do that. We don’t know if they were his children. They might have been. But as I said, three died in the tunnel. And the tunnel collapsed with the explosion. But you had other fighters coming out also. And they’re being brought back. They’re being — they’re — right now, we have them imprisoned.
Q I was going to ask whose children they were, but do you remember what time you went into the Situation Room?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I started at five o’clock. We were pretty much gathered at five o’clock yesterday. We were in contact all day long through, hopefully, secure phones. I’ll let you know tomorrow. But nothing seemed to leak, so I guess they were secure, for a change.
But we gathered more or less at five. The attack started moments after that. The — the liftoff started moments after that. Again, the element of attack that they were most afraid of was getting from our base into that compound. Because there’s tremendous firepower that we were, you know, flying over.
And I won’t go into it, but you had a very big Russian presence in one area, you had a Turkish presence, you had a Syrian presence. And you’re flying low. It’s very dangerous. And there were shots made, but we think these were people that were shooting that were indiscriminately shooting. The helicopters took some shots, but we think that these were people that were just random people that don’t like to see helicopters, I guess.
Q Sir, was there any kind of DNA test done? Or where is the body? You know —
THE PRESIDENT: So, that’s another part of the genius of these people. They brought his — they have his DNA. More of it than they want, even. And they brought it with them with lab technicians who were with them. And they assumed that this was Baghdadi. They thought, visually, it was him. But they assumed it was him, and they did a site — an onsite test. They got samples.
And to get to his body, they had to remove a lot of debris because the tunnel had collapsed. But these people are very good at that. And — and they, as I said, they brought body parts back with them, et cetera, et cetera. There wasn’t much left. The — the vest blew up, but there are still substantial pieces that they brought back. So they did an onsite test because we had to know this. And it was a very quick call that took place about 15 minutes after he was killed, and it was positive. It was — it’s, “This is a confirmation, sir.”
Q There was also a report that his wife had detonated — or one of his wives had detonated a vest. Is that —
THE PRESIDENT: So, there were two women. There were two women. Both wives, both wearing vests. They had not detonated. But the fact that they were dead and they had vests on made it very difficult for our men, because they had vests on. And it made it very difficult for our men. Because you never know what’s going to happen. They’re lying, they’re dead. They never detonated. But they were dead.
Q And if (inaudible) on the successor — the possible successors, have you been briefed on who would possibly fill in the seats?
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. We know the successors. And we’ve already got them in our sights. And we’ll tell you that right now, but we know the successors. Hamza bin Laden was a big thing, but this is the biggest there is. This is the worst ever.
Osama bin Laden was very big, but Osama bin Laden became big with the World Trade Center. This is a man who built a whole, as he would like to call it, “a country,” a caliphate, and was trying to do it again.
And I had not heard too much about his health. I’ve heard stories about he may not have been in good health. But he died a — he died in a ruthless, vicious manner. That, I can tell you.
Q Were any prisoners taken, sir? Were any adults taken for intel purposes?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, we have people that were taken. We have — many of the people died on the site. But we have people that were taken, yes. And — and the children, we are — we left them under care of somebody, that we understand.
Q Can you say how many? Or do you believe that these were —
THE PRESIDENT: Eleven children.
Q Eleven children. How many adults?
THE PRESIDENT: I’d rather not say. I’d leave that to the generals. But —
Q These were —
THE PRESIDENT: — a small group. More dead than alive.
Q Which operations teams were involved? Which Special Operations teams were involved?
THE PRESIDENT: Many of them, and at the top level. And people that were truly incredible at their craft. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Q And were there — as far as partnerships goes, were there any other forces involved? Or was this only American troops in this raid?
THE PRESIDENT: No, only American forces.
Q And did the U.S. —
THE PRESIDENT: Only American forces. But we were given great cooperation.
Q Did the U.S. rely on —
THE PRESIDENT: We told the Russians we’re coming in, because we had to go over them. And they were curious, but — but we said, “We’re coming.” How we said — one way or the other, “Hey, look, we’re coming.” But they were very cooperative. They really were good. And we did say it would be a mission that they’d like, too. Because, you know, again, they hate ISIS as much as we do.
Q Sir, I meant for intel purposes, was there any foreign intel that proved useful along the way in this operation?
THE PRESIDENT: So, we had our own intel. We got very little help. We didn’t need very much help. We have some incredible people. When we use our intelligence correctly, what we can do is incredible. When we waste our time with intelligence, that hurts our country, because we had poor leadership at the top. That’s not good.
But I’ve gotten to know many of the intel people, and I will say that they are spectacular. Now, they’re not going to want to talk about it. They want to keep it quiet. The last thing they want, because these are — these are great patriots. But the people that I’ve been dealing with are incredible people. And it’s really a deserving name: “intelligence.” I’ve dealt with some people that aren’t very intelligent, having to do with intel, but this is the top people and it was incredible. It was flawless. And it was very complicated.
But — so, I do appreciate Russia, Turkey, Iraq, and Syria, to an extent, because, you know, we’re flying into Syria, and a lot of Syrian people with lots of guns.
So we had good cover for probably the most dangerous part. It would not sound to — you know, when you fly in, it doesn’t sound like that would be the most dangerous when you’re going into shooting nests and all of the things that happened once they broke into that pretty powerful compound. That was a very strong compound and, as I said, had tunnels.
But the most dangerous part, we had great cooperation with.
Yes, ma’am.
Q Did you inform Speaker Pelosi ahead of time?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I didn’t. I didn’t do — I didn’t do that. I wanted to make sure this kept secret. I don’t want to have men lost — and women. I don’t want to have people lost.
Q Do you anticipate inviting the Special Forces teams to the White House after this?
THE PRESIDENT: Oh, yeah. They’ll be invited. I don’t know if they’ll want to have their faces shown, to be honest with you. You know, they want to — they’re incredible for the country. They’re not looking for public relations.
But they love doing what they’re doing. I’ve seen it. The First Lady was out there, recently, looking at what they do. She came back, she said, “Wow, I’ve never seen anything like that.” The training — you know, all of the training — and the power of the people. The men and women, the strength, the physical strength, the mental strength. These are incredible people. These are very unique individuals.
Q You mentioned whimpering. Could you hear that on your video hookup?
THE PRESIDENT: Mentioned what?
Q The whimpering of Baghdadi. Did you hear it?
THE PRESIDENT: I don’t want to talk about it, but —
Q Okay.
THE PRESIDENT: — he was screaming, crying, and whimpering. And he was scared out of his mind.
And think of James Foley. Think of Kayla. Think of the things he did to Kayla; what he did to Foley and so many others. And for those people that say, “Oh, isn’t this a little violent? Think of how many times have you seen men — I think, in all cases, men, for the most part — but in terms of this, where you see the orange suits, and you see the ocean and they’re beheaded. Or how many of you got to see — because it was out there — the Jordanian pilot whose plane went down, they captured him, they put him in a cage, and they set him on fire.
And the King of Jordan actually attacked, very powerfully, when that happened. They’ve never seen anything like that. But he set him on fire. This was al-Baghdadi. And you should never, ever hopefully see a thing like that again.
Now, there’ll be new people emerged, but this was the worst of this particular world. This was the worst. Probably, in certain ways, the smartest. He was also a coward. And he didn’t want to die. But think of it: Everybody was out, and we were able to search him down and find him in the tunnel. We knew the tunnel existed. And that’s where he was.
Q And you’ve taken a lot of heat for the Syria pullout. Do you think this will change the standing — your standing —
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I don’t have a Syria pullout. I just don’t want to guard Turkey and Syria for the rest of our lives. I mean, I don’t want to do it. It’s very expensive. It’s very dangerous. They’ve been fighting for centuries. I don’t want to have my people — 2,000 men and women, or 1,000, or 28. We had 28 guards. And I said, “I don’t want them there anyway. I don’t want them.”
Now, I will secure the oil that happens to be in a certain part. But that’s tremendous money involved. I would love to — you know, the oil in — I mean, I’ll tell you a story. In Iraq — so they spent — President Bush went in. I strongly disagreed with it, even though it wasn’t my expertise at the time, but I had a — I have a very good instinct about things. They went in and I said, “That’s a tremendous mistake.” And there were no weapons of mass destruction. It turned out I was right. I was right for other reasons, but it turned out, on top of everything else, they had no weapons of mass destruction, because that would be a reason to go in. But they had none.
But I heard recently that Iraq, over the last number of years, actually discriminates against America in oil leases. In other words, some oil companies from other countries, after all we’ve done, have an advantage Iraq for the oil. I said, “Keep the oil. Give them what they need. Keep the oil.” Why should we — we go in, we lose thousands of lives, spend trillions of dollars, and our companies don’t even have an advantage in getting the oil leases. So I just tell you that story. That’s what I heard.
Q Did Gina Haspel play a role in this? Can you talk a little bit about that? And I saw your NSC counter-terrorism director out in the hallway. Was there a role with NSC counter-terrorism?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. Everybody. Gina was great. Everybody played a role. Joe was great. Gina was great. They were all great.
Q Just to follow up, did your Syria pullout, did that generate the intelligence that led to this operation?
THE PRESIDENT: No. We were looking at this — look, as I said, Steve, I’ve been looking at this — I’m here almost three years. I’ve been looking at this for three years. They’d come in, “Sir, we have somebody under…” — I said, “I don’t want somebody. I want al-Baghdadi. That’s the one I want.” They’d said, “Well, we have somebody else.” I said, “That’s great. Fine. Take them out. But I want al-Baghdadi. That’s who I want. I don’t want other people.”
And then I also wanted Hamza bin Laden because he’s a young man, around 30, looks just like his father. Tall, very handsome. And he was talking bad things, just like his father.
You know, if you read my book — there was a book just before the World Trade Center came down. And I don’t get any credit for this, but that’s okay. I never do. But here we are. I wrote a book — a, really, very successful book. And in that book, about a year before the World Trade Center was blown up, I said, “There is somebody named Osama bin Laden. You better kill him or take him out.” Something to that effect. “He’s big trouble.”
Now, I wasn’t in government. I was building buildings and doing what I did. But I always found it fascinating. But I saw this man — tall, handsome, very charismatic — making horrible statements about wanting to destroy our country. And I’m writing a book. I think I wrote 12 books. All did very well. And I’m writing a book. The World Trade Center had not come down. I think it was about — if you check, it was about a year before the World Trade Center came down. And I’m saying to people, “Take out Osama bin Laden,” that nobody ever heard of. Nobody ever heard of. I mean, al-Baghdadi everybody hears because he’s built this monster for a long time. But nobody ever heard of Osama bin Laden until, really, the World Trade Center.
But about a year — you’ll have to check — a year, year and a half before the World Trade Center came down, the book came out. I was talking about Osama bin Laden. I said, “You have to kill him. You have to take him out.” Nobody listened to me.
And to this day, I get people coming up to me, and they said, “You know what one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen about you? Is that you predicted that Osama bin Laden had to be killed before he knocked down the World Trade Center.” It’s true. Now, most of the press doesn’t want to write that, but you know — but it is true. If you go back, look at my book. I think it was “The America We Deserve.” I made a prediction, and I — let’s put it this way: If they would have listened to me, a lot of things would have been different.
Q Sir, can you talk about some of the difficult decisions you had along the way here in this operation? Anything that weighed on you or that you had to —
THE PRESIDENT: Well, just death. I mean, you know, I’m sending a large number of brilliant fighters. These are the greatest fighters in the world.
Q How many?
THE PRESIDENT: I’d rather let the generals tell you, but a large number. We had eight helicopters and we had many other ships and planes.
It was a large group. And again, this is a large group heading over very, very strong firepower areas where — that was decision one: Will they make it? And they made it, but they took fire, but they made it. They didn’t take — we don’t believe, again, it was nation fire; we believe it was individual group fire or gang fire, as they call it. So, they made it, so that was a big relief.
Then they went in, they blasted their way in — you’ve heard. They blasted their way in so quickly. It was incredible. Because this building was quite powerful, strong. They blasted their way in, and then all hell broke loose. It’s incredible that nobody was killed — or hurt. We had nobody even hurt. And that’s why the dog was so great. We actually had a robot to go in the tunnel, but we didn’t get it because we were tracking him very closely. But we had a robot, just in case. Because we were afraid he had a suicide vest on, and if you get close to him and he blows it up, you’re going to die. You’re going to die. He had a very powerful suicide vest.
Q Did you have to make any decisions in the moment, while troops were on the ground?
THE PRESIDENT: No, they had it just incredible. We were getting full reports on literally a minute-by-minute basis. “Sir, we just broke in.” “Sir, the wall is down.” “Sir,” you know, “we’ve captured.” “Sir, two people are coming out right now. Hands up.” Fighters. Then, the 11 children out. Numerous people were dead within the building that they killed.
Then, it turned out, they gave us a report: “Sir, there’s only one person in the building. We are sure he’s in the tunnel trying to escape.” But it’s a dead-end tunnel. And it was brutal. But it was over. And as I said, when he blew himself up, the tunnel collapsed on top of him, on top of everything — and his children. I mean, so he led his three children to death. So, you know —
Q And in the tunnel, that’s when the robot followed him in? That’s why no troops died?
THE PRESIDENT: The robot was set to, but we didn’t hook it up because we were too — they were moving too fast. We were moving fast. We weren’t 100 percent sure about the tunnel being dead-ended. It’s possible that there could have been an escape hatch somewhere along that we didn’t know about.
So we moved very, very quickly. I mean —
Q Was he being chased then?
THE PRESIDENT: — these people, they were moving — they were chasing, yeah. They were chasing. But again, because the suicide vest, you can’t get too close.
Again, one of the reasons with the wives is if they have a suicide vest, you know, you have to be very, very careful. These vests are brutal. Brutal. And they go for a long distance.
Yes, please.
Q Have you spoken or will you speak to the families, like the Foley family?
THE PRESIDENT: I’m calling the families now. It will be a pleasure to do that. The Foley family, who I know. We’ll be calling Kayla’s family. What — what he did to her was incredible. It’s a well-known story, and I’m not going to say it, but you know that. He kept her in captivity for a long period of time. He kept her in his captivity, his personal captivity. She was a beautiful woman, beautiful young woman. Helped people. She was there to help people. And he saw her and he thought she was beautiful, and he brought her into captivity for a long period of time and then he killed her. He was an animal, and he was a gutless animal.
Thank you all very much. I appreciate it. It’s a very great day for our country.
Daughn,
Thanks for the report. This is exciting news!! It is nice to have it all in one place.
Elizabeth
One Evildoer down – may the rest soon follow.
Domestic terrorists, such as Antifa, as well.
And I include leftist ideologues and traitors among the domestic terrorists.
Maybe even Pelosi herself. Her response makes me think that she is AWARE of Turkish intrigues, and was helping them in their ANTIAMERICAN PRO-ISIS BS.
Note her “complaint” is that she wasn’t notified in advance…
“The House must be briefed on this raid, which the Russians but not top Congressional Leadership were notified of in advance, and on the Administration’s overall strategy in the region.” – Pelosi
No one should be wondering why.
House of Commies. Notifying them would be TREASON.
No Leaks.
I loved how they called him “serial leaker Adam Schiff”. That guy needs to be OFF the intel committee.
I don’t believe any Democrat in Congress should be notified of anything regarding National Security. They have essentially proved themselves as being enemies of the country. It’s more than just “leaking” classified information… it’s aiding and abetting America’s enemies.
AMEN!!!
Look how much DAMAGE Democrats are doing with JUST THE HOUSE.
Brian Cates tread answering the WaPo’s fawning sympathetic obituary of Al Baghdadi:
The KGB-CIA Amazon Bezos Baldy Pencilneck America Dies In Soviet Democrat Darkness Washington Compost is a POS.
Wolf you don’t need to candy coat it with us. Why don’t you tell us how you really feel?
Yeah. Say it like you mean it
What I’d say is:
Jeff Bezos: HOW DARE YOU!!!!!
AMEN!!!
You stole my childhood,my dreams!
Washington Post describes Al Baghdadi as an “austere religious scholar”.
Not all austere religious leaders can make Pack-a-Mama Francis look good! There is that!
It’s as if they’re making him the Islamic Francis of Assisi…
Bag-dung-day was anything but austere… more like a bum steer…
The deep state are being exposed more and more… time to expose THEM to Gitmo, or that new virtual reality (electrically enhanced reality) “gamer chair” Sparky…
In other news, Jeff Bezos announces that the Washington Post is merging with its parent paper, Pravda.
Thanks for putting this up, Daughn.
It is interesting and revealing to me if Lindsey Graham was in the Sit Room when this was happening. So many people don’t trust Graham, but he appears to have a good working relationship with Trump. He is ex-military and very active and supportive of our armed services, but not currently on a committee related to that. Also interesting because of his connection to the snake McShame, and his connections to the ME. All I know is, I trust Trump to know who to trust.
I love that the head of the Intelligence Committee, ole Shifty-Schiff, was excluded. It is ridiculous to me that anyone would even consider that telling Nancy Pelosi would be a thing.
God Bless our great troops (canines included), and God Bless President Trump!
Amen
Telling Pelosi would be equal to telling Auntie Maxine .
Equal to telling al Baghdadi
He’s being used as the lead hound. He’s taking the press off thecliff. Maybe Judas goat would be more appropriate. And he’s enjoying every minute
Dem leaders were not informed.
It is the judgment of the President that the Speaker of the House, third in line to be the President, probably would sacrifice US military personnel rather than allow something to happen that might make the President look good. And we are not shocked at this judgment. Rather, we applaud the President for his decision.
That this had to be done, to me, is chilling.
Dear Representative Schiff,
Please consider this notice of the upcoming raid on you and your affiliates cash cow.
Feel free to leak this information to them in advance.
Thank you,
POTUS
P.S. Psyche. I already made the raid.
Why should POTUS tell the traitors anything?
The reflexively anti-American party should not be informed about the fate of their accidental allies.
And about the fate of the allies they created too.
Chad needs to get it right they are not Democratic they are Democrats. I wish people think a little and it irks me every time I read or hear about Democrats being Democratic.
Nancy trying to downplay the success of the mission.
https://twitter.com/AnthemRespect/status/1188456216445386753
Pelosi has a nerve. Under democrat leadership President ISIS thrived and became a gruesome killing machine to muslims and Christians alike. The poor people children women men alike just butchered.
Nancie needs to shut up and thank her lucky stars that President Trump is comander and chief and not Hillary.
Per Jennifer Griffin and others, the US Team was on the ground for over 2 hours. Described as “a huge intelligence win for the CIA and others”.
https://twitter.com/TrueQanuck11/status/1188448032976756737?s=20
And just like that, we realized that Spygate was only a pimple on the huge stinking pig.
Yep, Creation of ISIS, Benghazi, emails, spygate, Russia, Ukraine….decades of corruption.
THEY ALL NEED TO HANG!!!
Spit!
https://twitter.com/steph93065/status/1188450652000702464
Heck, if they’re REALLY that upset, why don’t they file articles of impeachment against Trump?
WELL??
Washington Post is taking MAJOR HEAT from the public over referring to Al Baghdadi as “an austere religious scholar”.
Yeah, ISIS, the people who burned the Jordanian Pilot alive, made sex slaves of the Yazidi women, and beheaded journalists.
Tell me again how the Washington Post cares about Khashoggi but doesn’t give a damn about James Foley?
They should. It should Be a front page article about US taking out top terrorist. An Obituary?!?, to mourn his death is totally disgusting. Was it penned and submitted by Hussein?? the squad???
Husband thought it was a joke.
It’s serious.
The Washington Post really is THIS BAD.
Its pretty sick. Would they have done this for pol pot, hitler, et al? The scum was truly violent just for shoots and giggles. No one should read or credit this rag. Hope it drops some red pills today.
OMG! Click on the hashtag, Folks are having a good time mocking!! 😂😂
I think that mocking them is great.
It’s time we start calling out and mocking the fake news anywhere and everywhere we see it.
I’d love to see a ton more sites like the Babylon Bee out there to fight against the demonic drivel that the left pushes continuously.
It’s unbelieveable the crud that’s on the news over here…. then again, Göbbels is somehow still here…
And, the AfD (our Deplorables) have done really well in today’s elections in the state of Thuringen, even topping the CDU (unfortunately, Die Linke still got more). BUt of course the swampians are saying that we proles are not getting THEIR message (reminds me of Steve Ballmer saying to a reporter: “you must have misunderstood your question”…).
NO, DERP STATE: YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND OUR MESSAGE!!!!!! Time to send Satan Soros and all his Demonic minions packing… off to Hell, where they came from…..
IMO, Jeff Bezos and his financial backers are to be considered enemies of the United States. Any information conduits to them should be shut down.
I bet we’re going to see more moves by POTUS that block out the Dems – they’re a National Security risk.
I’d like to see VSGPDJT and we Deplorables BLOT OUT the dems.. soak them up and send them off, maybe with Musk… not Mars, but a ways away, say Proxima Centauri… or, Europe, where they can whine about Gore-Bull warming while shivering watching the (methane) ice volcanos… and then trying to figure out, if methane is a greenhouse gas, why isn’t Europe warming…
They are SOOOO clueless… they probably thing Avogadro’s number is how many you put in Guacaomole…
They have now CHANGED the headline online!
They think we are stupid. People take screenshots, you morons.
Twice now
Wow! They just can’t get it right. Morons.
Since all directives come from Bezos (9 am orders)…it has to be him making the decision. Needs to be called out loud and often.
Seriously?
What I want is an update on the condition of the poor brave military dog.
And I resent the statement that Al Baghdadi died like a dog . That military dog was brave and loyal and I’m hoping is comfy and recovering
You tell ’em, Daughn. ThanQ for putting those two names together and hanging them around the figurative neck of the WA Compost.
Why did the WaPo have that “obituary”?
Two words:
JEFF BEZOS
Two more words: leftist shills
aka Dr. Evil
Well, Mr. Austere, Religious Scholar, here’s your 72 dude virgins.
[I’ve been dying for an occasion to use this movement, #2 of the Verdi Requiem, a total blast to sing.]
WOW.
awesome!
I think this is a “Verdi Cimbasso”, a combination of bass trombone and valve trombone. It’s used in only a few other places by Verdi, as in “Aida” and by Puccini. The Cimbasso has the same range as a tuba but the sound is more “mellow”.
OK, that one I *hadn’t* heard of.
But it seems like it’d be useful in a marching band, as it doesn’t stick way out in front like a conventional trombone. And it looks a lot lighter than a tuba.
Bass trombone, I believe.
Did someone say “Tuba”?
(I still haven’t forgetten that the wonderful cello intro was left out 🙂 ) (that strikes fear in the heart of all cellists who have to audition with it – excepting Leonard Rose, of course)… Not Oktubafest yet, but:
The cello intro is #1. Dies Irae is #2. Sad that the exciting parts are over in the first two movements, but, hey, at least there’s a reprise!
Yep. But, there’s always room for cello…
(ducks flying salads, half-eaten aspics, halloween brain salad forms….)… 🙂
(how I miss think geek 🙂 gamestop bought them and geoblocked them grrrr)…
Comments are gold, too. And later in the vid they do “What a Wonderful World”, great harmonies…
For tubaholics (or skeptics), there’s the Vaughn-Williams Tuba Concerto, a great piece in its own right… not an “oom pah” instrument at all…
Cuppa Covfefe
I had the great honor to be a solfege student of PHILIP CATELINET, the tubist of the London Philharmonic for whom the Tuba Concerto was written, back in the day at the Music Department of the Carnegie Institute of Technology (now Carnegie-Mellon University). Mr. Catelinet taught tuba, composition, and solfege.
The collection of talent on this page is constantly a source of pleasant surprise and wonder.
Love it!
Re Posting duchess01’s video of the Ridgecrest Team
SO VERY PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN
SO VERY PROUD TO HAVE DONALD TRUMP AS LEADER
SO VERY PROUD TO HAVE YOUNG MEN LIKE THIS FOOTBALL TEAM IN AMERICA
(TY daughnworks247 — its has been re posted all over FB & Tweeter..)
The left has now decided they are angry Pelosi and Schumer were not notified.
Trump already addressed the issue.
https://twitter.com/heyitsCarolyn/status/1188488189754912768
https://twitter.com/AnthemRespect/status/1188456216445386753
Is that Andrea Mitchell? Old, haggard looking woman. What is it about Lefty women? No joy in their lives? No happiness? Everything must be bitter that they ingest.
POTUS’ strategy is to kill the Mfr’s!!
We had to notify Russia first because they control the airspace AND
Quit whining Nancy. You Cannot be Trusted !!
Pelosi Statement on Al-Baghdadi Raid
OCTOBER 27, 2019 PRESS RELEASE
Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement after ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in a U.S. military raid:
“Americans salute the heroism, dedication and skill of our military and our intelligence professionals and acknowledge the work of our partners in the region. We are relieved that no U.S. personnel died in this daring raid.
“The death of al-Baghdadi is significant, but the death of this ISIS leader does not mean the death of ISIS. Scores of ISIS fighters remain under uncertain conditions in Syrian prisons, and countless others in the region and around the world remain intent on spreading their influence and committing acts of terror.
“This month, the House passed a joint resolution on an overwhelmingly bipartisan 354-60 basis which rejects President Trump’s green-lighting of Turkish aggression into Syria against our Kurdish partners, and calls on him to present a clear strategy to defeat ISIS. The House must be briefed on this raid, which the Russians but not top Congressional Leadership were notified of in advance, and on the Administration’s overall strategy in the region. Our military and allies deserve strong, smart and strategic leadership from Washington.”
Nancy Pants is Pissed for sure, BFLY! Thanks for posting! What was it President Trump said?
We notified Russia, Syria, and Turkey that US would be performing an operation, got their buy in to stand down.
He also thanked all countries (Russia first in list) and Kurds in this morning’s announcement.
Snowflakes are melting over it. 😂😂
We notified the heads of state of countries with a ‘Need to Know’ – who would assist in this operation – what would Nancy Poopy Pants and Schmucky Stinks have contributed to this operation, BFLY?
They would’ve blown the OP, possibly getting our troops killed and letting the terrorists get away. And Then blamed POTUS for it. It’s their own damn fault, POTUS has NO reason to trust or respect them!!
Amen goes right there, BFLY!
In their minds ALL of that isn’t a bug….it’s a FEATURE.
No wonder they’re ticked.
Wagging a pointed finger at POTUS and prancing out of a major policy meeting has consequences, Nancy. He won the election…hmmm, now where did I hear that? Deal with it!
Piglosi doesn’t realize that she is NOT over the executive branch, and that VSGPDJT IS, and he is Commander-In-Chief.
Sowing division, hate, and lies is the only thing she and the DEMONicRATS can do. We should bill them back for all the time and money they have wasted…
And one of the best, if not THE BEST, that we have had in decades, if not a Century or more…
Thank you, BFly, I was wrong and getting pundits and not the actual statement.
I’m going to copy this into the main thread.
they do deserve strong smart strategic leadership and with POTUS they have it
Even more important than that (speaking as a veteran)? They KNOW, without a SHRED of doubt, that POTUS has their six!!!!
EXACTLY!
VSGPDJT made sure that NO ONE knew about the OP except those with an absolute need to know, thereby putting as few troops at risk as possible. As you said, showing that he’s got their six.
Piglosi (like von der Leyen and, barf, AKK [Annegret Krampf-Karrenbauer]) wouldn’t know which way to point a gun… not that it matters because our guns don’t shoot straight once they heat up 🙁
Interesting, too, that VSGPDJT informed those with a need to know, including Russia, Syria, Turkey, and presumably the Kurds, AND THERE WERE NO LEAKS! (AFAIK)…
Kind of embarrassing and disgusting that our so-called enemies are better at keeping secrets than our so-called (or SHOULD-BE) friends are…..
As he said, the Russians have a LOT of weapons in that area – can’t take the chance of an accidental incident – the fact is, those 3 control overflight areas so it just made sense. Piglosi is a fool!
Shamefully, the typical left wing Hollywood crowd made the takedown of Baghdadi political, BLAMING President Trump, and accusing the President of creating the operation to “distract from his impeachment”.
The hashtag “#Staged” has begun to trend on Twitter.
I think theyre so depraved they arent even getting pleasure from their own circle jerk. Its ok, theyre helping make all the entertainment industry that much more irrelevant and hopefully poor.
IMO the entertainment industry is being very entertaining. There’s nothing that tickles me more than whining overly privileged snowflakes losing their minds over POTUS victories.
We should each send them pics of dead roses bouquets.
Here we go again – more Backwards Liberal Think – as Q often says – ” These people are stupid! “
Here’s a woman who has 250K+ followers on Twitter.
The left is RUSHING to discredit the President for the raid on Baghdadi.
It makes no sense.
This is not political at all. Terrorists don’t ask for a voter card.
The Bower’s women knows that how?
Was she there dos she work for POTUS or s she one of the many Obama left over intel shrews ..?
Answers: Unclear – No – No – Strong possibility – hope this helps, sing – /s
This was actually a valuable comment.
Indicates to me that Obama was definitely photoshopped into the Benghazi photo.
Pure projection and practically VERIFIED by the fact that THIS is the point they would jump on first.
Strange, eh?
I always thought he looked like he had shrunk into himself in that photo. Never thought about it being photo shopped, but looking at the proportions of just his head, not even considering his torso, compared to everyone else’s, it’s way off, his head is not that much smaller in real life.
Zero was brought in at the last moment, had no idea what was happening. Leon Panetta was running the show and didn’t let Zero in on it until it was too late for him to intervene.
Leon Panetta… another DEMONicRAT from Kalifornistan…
I’m trying to remember when we had decent politicians from California, and other than Ronald Reagan (who wasn’t perfect) and Richard Nixon (who was Whittier than most people give him credit for), no one comes to mind… not even going back the 60 years I can remember (more or less 🙂 )…
I didn’t study Cali politics but I do remember studying Reagan as gov, quite eyeopening. I think his time as gov taught him a few things.
Devin Nunes.
Yep. McCarthy might turn out to be OK, too. Forgot about them…
And, in other news, Kalifornistan is facing blackouts, and even more blackouts after this round is done. Looks like PG&E are in a pee-ing war with the PUC and do-nothing-useful-Newsom…
Oh, but lookie here. Independent contractors (especially writers) and “piece-work” contractors are basically being run out of business… so he is doing something… just nothing good…as usual… learned from Auntie pretty well…
But his brain is…
Zero is a pinhead
We’ve been learning to recognize truth by seeing the intent of their lies.
Cover-up for their failed FAKE messiah.
These lefties love to make the comparison:
Look who is in the bosses seat in the left picture and in the right.
PDJT loves to troll doesn’t he.
The left picture the supposed boss actually is shafted on the side on the only remaining seat available.Was he late for the meeting?
The right picture actually would show that an actual briefing has take place (look at all the documents) Also if it was staged would they show the jumble of cables.
On the left picture HRC has some kind of picture on her laptop.
Probably Huma… or one of their young “friends”…
Seeing that cable salad, I don’t feel so bad about my, erm, cables al dente (all dented?) on my desk 🙂
VSGPDJT is a BOSS, and a great CIC.
Øblowhole, on the other hand, not only isn’t good enough for the JV team, he’d get cut from the frosh-soph and even Pop Warner teams… seeing him throw, he probably wouldn’t make Pee Wee little league (or, horrors, “Coast League”)…
That Betty Bowers person is weird – go look at her website. What real Christian says they are America’s Best Christian?
Who in the heck would follow someone like that?
She’s even asking for money in the first tweets.
I think this is a leftist account making fun of Christians – like the Sunday School Lady on SNL.
That is exactly what it is.
And if she had continued to focus on that…
But no, she had to go after Trump, meaning her site is NOT just about some of the really stupid people who happen to call themselves Christians. Not any more.
“The “Baghdadi raid” pics was staged, hours later. Trump was playing golf when it happened.”
In the evening, of October 26…when the sun sets at, what, 6-6:30pm, and the tweet announcing something big happened came at 8:39 pm when it was dark. Does some club around DC actually light their golf courses? Or do the idiots think that Trump uses glow in the dark balls or something?
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, only stupid, really stupid people are going to fall for that.
In case the Lefties do in the little penguin on twitter, here is my tweet. You might screenshot it. 🙂
She’s got it EXACTLY BACKWARDS! as befits DEMONicRAT projection.
How long until they start comparing Benghazi with Al-Baghdadi… ???
The only decisions Øbunghole was able to make were “do you want the towel wet or dry”…
Top or bottom
Retweeted by our own Marica.
from Trump: “We secured documents relative to the founding of ISIS”
Hmmmmmm………
https://twitter.com/kal_hnd/status/1188480093863038976
Remember it was jobs and climate change causing their behavior?
Hmmm. Because you just want to get a head (falling down on the ground beside you)…
Would be interesting if somehow he were exposed as a fake Moslem, or an apostate Moslem. Then THEY would all be after him… hoist by his own retard…
Being gay automatically qualifies him for the death penalty
Yes, BO, he’s turning up the heat.
Everyone is wondering about the injured K9, our precious doggie, who was wounded when Al Baghdadi blew up his suicide vest.
https://twitter.com/PatriotBluesT/status/1188487749143334916
I am betting it was the dog that chased him into the tunnel – injured when he blew his suicide vest, most likely.
Look at that face! Yep, Belgian Malinois.
FYI – the Obama Admin did not notify Congress either about the raid on Bin Laden.
Wh lawyers decided the delay in notification was justified for national security.
Wow, all of this hand wringing over nervous Nan, crying Chuck…not knowing in advance the mission to nail al bag…
AND, Russia, Turkey…knew…
Easy peasy…operational security critical to success and American lives. Minimal folks with “Need To Know”. OPSEC!
Russians, Turks needed to know minimal so they would NOT engage our forces.
100%, D’Rats have questionable motives these days.
– “RESIST” enflamed with TDS have D-Rats rabidly doing everything they can to harm America, Americans…including US Military.
ZERO reason to trust any D-Rats.
They’re NOT on America’s side. Not sure whose side they’re on. THEY are not really sure whose side they are on. But they ARE sure they’re not on America’s side.
They’re PSYCHOLOGICAL CASUALTIES.
Don’t miss that sentence after the highlight…
DiFi anyone?
The swamp’s depth never ends.
The swamp’s perfidy never ends, either.
https://twitter.com/DodsonTom/status/1188481128543469568
Uh…..that is NOT the same guy…….? At least, it is pretty clear to me. Are they supposed to be? The DM article was garbled on my end.
AGREE – not the same guy – look at the noses.
That and the distance between jaw bone and ear lobe – 2 things that jumped out at me.
I believe they ARE the same guy, but there is PHOTOGRAPHIC WIDENING in one case.
I will defer to your superior judgment but, IMO, the nose is even shaped differently.
No reason to defer to my judgment! I simply say what I believe – always. I could be wrong.
But I’m actually impressed that I am now able to look at a photo and “thin it” or “widen it” in my mind. I’ve been working with a lot of memes that are accidentally thinned and widened by people using image software and changing graphics using corner and side handles. The ability to spot these cases and pick OTHER photos is very helpful in making quality memes.
KGB-CIA-DNC-MSM whatever is using thinning and widening, as well as colorization, to pull off disinfo ops. Snopes uses the disinfo in all possible ways to help the left.
There’s some disagreement on when he was released from the camp. 2004/5 or 2009
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2014/dec/31/setting-record-straight-when-did-we-free-islamic-s/
Sunday Morning Futures | Fox News – 10/27/2019
Sen. Daines on ISIS leader’s death: It is a great morning for America, it is a great day for the world
Montana Republican Sen. Steve Daines says President Trump deserves so much credit for his relentless pursuit of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/sunday-morning-futures
Sunday Morning Futures | Fox News – 10/27/2019 ( Dingell is a Dingbat)
Democratic lawmaker reacts to the killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Michigan Rep. Debbie Dingell thanks the brave men and women of the U.S. military, intelligence community and everyone who assisted in the takedown of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/sunday-morning-futures
Wow did she look old this morning.
She’s usually fairly well put together, but not this morning.
She has quite a bit of responsibility at Fox – by Sunday – I do not think any one of us would look any better, Daughn – and – she has tons of guests, too – both financial and political – I think she needs a ‘spa’ day and a new ‘hairdresser’ – a good ‘stress facial’ would work wonders, too – jmho
Lol, Sweet Duchess, I think Miss Daughn’s talking about Dingel, not Maria. ☺️ Debbie looks like death today💀
OH – * slaps self upside head * BFLY –
Dingell always looks like she has been ‘dumpster diving’ – not only is her mind disheveled, but her clothes look like hand-me-downs – from Good Will – not making fun of Good Will – mind you – during the ‘Zero’ years – many working women found some nice business suits there.
Maria has to be patient with her – because Dingell gets lost in la-la land easily – the woman is a fruitcake!
Andrea Mitchell looked like an exhumed skeleton too. Saw her picture from some morning tweet.
I’ve still got it running on my TV – IMO, her hair looks greasy but I thought she looked ok otherwise. Maybe with this breaking news, she put in some late / early hours preparing…..?
Sunday Morning Futures | Fox News – 10/27/2019
Rep. Ratcliffe says all Americans should be grateful for the death of ISIS leader al-Baghdadi
Texas Republican Rep. John Ratcliffe says the Trump administration ‘cut off the head of the snake.’
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/sunday-morning-futures
https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1188481046993653760?s=20
To snowflakes crying about POTUS thanking Russia:
https://twitter.com/bflyjesusgrl/status/1188483213355823104?s=20
Oh, Grow Up!!! To quote a favorite expression of Joan Rivers (may she R.I.P)
Interesting historical perspective on the Osama Bin Laden raid in retrospect.
The U.S. intelligence documents not only confirms suspicions that the United States and some of its coalition allies had actually facilitated the rise of the ISIS in Syria – as a counterweight to the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad- but also that ISIS members were initially trained by members and contractors of the Central Intelligence Agency at facilities in Jordan in 2012.
The documents obtained by Judicial Watch also provide the first official documentation that the Obama administration was well aware that weapons were being shipped from Benghazi to rebel troops — including members from ISIS, the Al-Nusra Front and other Islamist terror groups — in Syria. An October 2012 report confirms thatr: “Weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles were shipped from the port of Benghazi, Libya to the Port of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria. The weapons shipped during late-August 2012 were Sniper rifles, RPG’s, and 125 mm and 155mm howitzers missiles.” The deadly and shocking attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission that saw four Americans — including a U.S. ambassador — slaughtered by jihadists occurred just weeks after the weapons shipment.
https://newspunch.com/declassified-documents-obama-ordered-cia-to-train-isis/
From 2015. Just a suggestion, Molly, to make note when it is old info. Hope you don’t mind. Someone like me, with a ……(ahem)….. short attention span…. and a simple mind, is likely to miss it! LOL
will make sure to do that in the future
No offense intended, of course.
Sometimes the fact that OLD reports take on NEW RELEVANCE later rather than sooner is pretty cool. This is especially true when TIMELINE FILLING makes re-evaluation of the information EXTREMELY USEFUL. So knowing WHEN things came out is actually very helpful, but SO IS THE RE-REPORTING of old info.
FUTURE PROVES PAST.
!!!!!
Oh, absolutely. I am not saying not to post it – not at all!
Exactly! We need lots of old postings – AND lots of identification as such. MOAR TRUTH IS GOOD TRUTH!!!
Glad you put this up. Was thinking that one was going to be needed last night for this. 👍 👍
You will laugh.
I was talking about how I was sooooooo wide awake and could not sleep……. right up until the time I conked out.
Instead of talking, should have put up the thread last night.
My fault.
LOL!! Hey, you are not an automaton! Those batteries need to be recharged every so often! Yours apparently are of the Energizer Bunny sort! Hubby used to have those too!
I gave my hubby a heads up at bedtime last night, and this morning I read him Wictor’s tweets that Ozzy posted last night, he was too tired last night. We listened to PDJT’s speech while I was doing hubby’s toenails this morning. (Yeah, it’s a thing that needs doing now.)
I fought with Bucket the dog last night, she would not settle down. Husband was sawing logs. Bucket and I were up from 1:00am until at least 3:00am.
Husband woke up, we turned on tv, looking for info, and WHAM…….. I slept through PDJT’s speech.
Bummer. It happens.
If “sawing logs” means snoring, do read this:
https://www.enthealth.org/conditions/snoring-sleeping-disorders-and-sleep-apnea/
Untreated apnea causes people to die in their sleep from heart attacks.
My grandmother was a champion snorer and lived to be 88 and 2/3 on the day. 27th of the month.
I could go on, but, people have been snoring from the beginning of time.
My mother also snorers all he life and past at 86.
Read in the thread theres more. Wapo….is wa pooop.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1188483557628485634
https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1165991745533992960
I wish that photo would go viral.
https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1188493792678236162
https://twitter.com/HimanshuWalimbe/status/1188494659233800193?s=20
Mike Morell, the slippery senior advisor to Hillary, and the guy who actually changed the Benghazi talking points for Susan Rice is MAD, stompy feet.
We were supposed to respect the Islamic State MORE while we killed their leader.
Huh?
We should have respected THEM more, like Obama did.
SPIT!
No
I like President Trump’s way a little better.
Trying to wrap my head around this one. We should have respected the guys who took Yazidi Christians as sex slaves, the guy who burned the Jordanian pilot alive, the guys who beheaded Foley.
Nah… bring him back to the USA for further study, but bring back his body parts.
Suits me just fine.
Yeah, Right – Wasn’t that the body they threw over the side of a ship so he could not be identified?
Go back in your hidey hole, traitor!!!
Good one, there, Mikey, good one. We’re supposed to respect the enemy when the entity is worthy of it. This scumbag was not worthy.
i hope they encase the “parts” in bacon grease and pig’s blood when they dispose of them after determining they are his parts…
Yes!
Always hoped bin laden was buried at sea with lots of pork.
It doesn’t work that way, unfortunately. They wouldn’t fear that in the slightest.
They believe that if you die while engaging in Jihad, you go directly to paradise NO MATTER WHAT, and you do so immediately. Buried with pigs makes no difference. (Anyone else who is going to paradise has to wait until judgment day.)
cowering in fear and crying doesn’t sound like engaging in jihad to me…
Yeah, well…I don’t know whether he gets a bye because he spent all of his time up until the last 5 minutes engaging in Jihad. Question for an expert and though I’ve met a few ex-Muslims who would qualify, I don’t know them well enough to contact them and ask.
but isn’t the manner of death important?
granted, they glorify suicide–and if he had come out fighting, guns blazing and committed suicide taking out a small company of “enemy fighters” that would be a different story.
running from a dog, cowering in fear, crying? doesn’t sound like a brave warrior to me. just saying
He was a coward. No argument there.
That doesn’t tell me what Islam says about whether he goes to paradise or not.
Does being buried with pigs mean bacon for all eternity? Asking for a friend.
Now see, THAT is an afterlife belief I could get behind!
When justice arrives in DC, can we strip this guy naked and put him in stocks on the National Mall? We could have a couple of pickup trucks of tomatoes parked next to him for those Americans who forgot to bring their own fruit to pelt him with.
Live streamed on the internet for the enjoyment of the rest of the world.
These people are NUCKING FUTS!!!
I wish they did not force our military wear this ‘gay is ok’ ribbon that was given to the entire military during the Øbscene administration:
Our SecDef and Chairman of Joint Chiefs are wearing this crap in the picture.
Barf!
Since DADT was repealed during the Ø admin – the number of M/M sexual assaults has exceeded M/F sexual assaults in the military.
Oh, yuck! SMDH – using our military as a social justice petri dish should be considered to be outright treason, IMO. Trying to flat-out take our country down!!!
transcript of POTUS’S speech
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/27/773842999/read-trump-statement-on-baghdadis-death
Thank you, thank you, Miss Pat!
Going to put this into the main thread.
you’re welcome…
LOL
You can bet our POTUS will deal with the WaPo….
There now!
Easy peasy, Nanny.
In the words of Fiona Glenanne, ‘Shoot them.’
Burn Notice was one of my favorite shows.
Me too, he was a hottie, Jeffery Donovan, – should have been the next James Bond.
Kind of had a thing for Bruce Campbell, myself.
wow…despite the crap that is SURE to follow…as least there’s this from Schiff
FTA
“My understanding [Pelosi] wasn’t [told]. But a couple of things, first of all, good riddance. [Al-Baghdadi] was a blood thirsty killer to the degree that he retained operational control of ISIS,” Schiff told the broadcaster. “This is an operational success, this is a symbolic victory. He had the blood of thousands and thousands of people on his hands, including many Americans and American journalists. So, this a great day, a ruthless killer has been brought to Justice. ”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/house-intelligence-chair-adam-schiff-says-he-wasnt-told-about-al-baghdadi-raid_3128886.html
Schiff sounds almost normal here…. amazing.
IKR?
he must be scared that POTUS gets him next…LOL
Remember – President Trump said, “We know who Bag Daddy’s successors are and we are going after them too.”
Congressman Mark Meadows:
Overwhelming force.
Premier military.
OPSEC critical ingredient.
Fight to only win, win, win.
VP Pence on the raid:
For those Democrat politicians and Fake News yappers who have and will express criticism of President Trump for this great military operation, one can only ask them this question:
WTH did you do to fight against ISIS during the 8 years you were in control of the military forces?
They stood by and either allowed Muslim Obama to fund and arm ISIS, or actually helped as DUPES or brainwash helpers like NO-NAME!!!
That’s it.
Momma is gonna need a whole lotta gauntlets to throw down.
Time for war against the MSM.
This is BEYOND THE PALE.
“… Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi transformed himself from a little-known teacher of Koranic recitation into the self-proclaimed ruler of an entity that covered swaths of Syria and Iraq https://bloom”
Are you freakin’ kidding me???????????
Is this Michael Bloomberg’s way to get the terrorist vote if he runs for the Presidency?
This is the POWER of psychology – the POWER of “reflexive anti-Americanism” being equated to a “virtue signal of intellectual prowess”. The KGB really scored with the creation of this virtue signal in the American psyche.
Don’t forget Judge Judy backs Bloomberg for president. Stupid old skank-ho.
The MCM is pure propaganda.
We knew it was fake.
Creating actual ISIS propaganda is your smoking gun proof.
It isn’t a theory, it’s a fact.
That’s telling her!
Again, worth repeating. The Obama WH lawyers decided delay of notification to Congress was completely justified but Panetta blabbed without permission.
Baked, Bagged & Daddy took 3 of his kids with him. Nice Daddy. Sarc
This is CNN:
Hm – the word ISIS occurs right in the middle of CNN’s motto – ThIS ISCNN)
100% PsyOp Propaganda. Blatant, malicious, intentional, and targeted against the American people.
Well CNN I still remember watching a video when the leader of Libya was hunted down and Hillary was celebrating how brutally he was killed.
CNN has sick people working for hem.
One can only imagine Al-Baghdadi cried, screamed and whimpered like a coward as he was chased into the deadend tunnel because he knew he was about to die by is own hand and end up in hell, suffering for eternity.
Nancy Pelosi is so busy spinning the success of our military and leadership of the Trump Admin……. she has decided we should give ISIS a playbook for how we are going to attack them the next time.
The stupidity is mind-boggling.
Even Cernovich sees it clearly.
I’ve never had a terrorist ask me for my Voter ID card, but that doesn’t mean the Dems aren’t trying to make terrorism political.
Citizen Trump congratulated President Obama and our Military.
Biden, only the military.
Yep, not a one has congratulated or even Thanked President Trump. This mission was far more dangerous than the one taking out UBL. I’m betting POTUS knew every aspect of every step before he courageously decided to go for it.
Washington Post now backing off their crass headline about Al Baghdadi
I guess the aliens made them do it????
No explanation. No one admitting they were an a$$hole this morning when they set the type?
The propaganda machine’s cogs are clanking and scraping.
How in the heck can anyone rationally defend someone like Baghdadi?
The guy who lights pilots on fire.
The guy who takes Yazidi Christians as sex slaves.
Beheads his enemies.
Tell ya’ what………. I want to know who EXACTLY knew he was there.
Waleed Phares speculating earlier on Fox, Said he thought BadDaddy was there to Meet with and make some sort of deal with AQ to merge the two groups.
When we break down how this propaganda ministry operates and understand that they get the info and the tact to take from their overlords who happen to be anti American,anti Trump and who rely on prominent DemComs to validate and justify .
It’s stunning to see it in real time….Pelosi and other “elected leaders” are so committed to undermining the duly elected president that they truly can’t be trusted with national security plans. If she had been told in detail (and I do think there may have been rumbles and that’s why she went to the region last week) she would’ve told her groupies who in turn would’ve told CNN who would’ve compromised the operation and men and women involved.
They’re allies in every way and they’re all enemy of the people.
Oh I am waiting for the Democrats to start defending al-Baghdadi as one of the good guys
Commit and apologize IS the strategy.
Yep – ppl see the headline for the first few hours. That’s what they want ppl to remember. A “retraction” after the fact is an acceptable loss when narrative shaping is king.
Guess that “somebody” called JEFF BEZOS and “hinted” that the original headline was bad for business …. might negatively effect the bottom line.
Great article and compilation Daughn.
Always amazing the breadth and depth of Information these posts gather , really quickly.
Thanks.
Scary good group.
Hmmmmm, that’s right.
Pelosi and Schumer + Steny Hoyer stormed out of the Syria briefing with all the Generals just last week.
More concerned with politics than peace.
LOL…POTUS can claim they were gonna be informed then….LOL
Good time for a reminder.
Biden was the one who spilled the beans on Seal Team 6.
McCraven was General in charge.
We need to run down the timeline on McCraven’s promotion.
I have unconfirmed source which claims McCraven was promoted 4 days after Seal Team 6 demise on Extortion 17.
If McCraven was an Admiral, how would he know details of movement?
Not sure about this claim. I didn’t not follow details of Extortion 17 as I should have.
Anyone else have details?
No details just a comment. Your facts are good. He was Joint Special Operations Commander. Believes that gave him over watch of anything important going on in the Special Forces arena so he would of likely been actively briefed and involved on not just Extortion 17 as it happened, but the mission that led up to it with the rangers who got pinned down as well. I doubt anyone has made a serious allegation against McRaven but I’m willing to bet that some suspect the the guy was involved in a not so nice way as in having to do this last dirty deed for Obama on condition of promotion, to clean house or make payment on the Bin Laden hit, before moving on to the new billet in Europe where he would no longer hold any operational control of Special Forces in Afghanistan.
If you wanted to look for anything to point this way I’d look to see if JSOC was in anyway involved in the Ranger Mission that preceded Extortion 17 (likely they were joint asset to the theater commander and JSOC but either way they’d be privy to their intel) going in and why was the Seal team chosen for the mission. Lots of information calling that into question from the families about the latter.
Lots of video on youtube. watched on where a small group of congressman heard from the families and found that very enlightening but can’t pick it out of all of these.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=extortion+17+
That number 17 just keeps getting additional special significance, doesn’t it.
Here’s hoping that Q will give us something on that rat McRaven when he comes back.
Daughn, .. still working 24-7-365 Thank You.
I have not had much time available to keep up as of late, certainly have not had a chance to read all the comments in this thread , I will this evening..I promise ..
One favor , as an author,can you please add names to the victims pictures in your article?
Dedicating this day in their Honor
Gotta run …
Thanks !
WWG1WGA
Done, and excellent tribute.
Maybe another one?
Kind of tough to “get the band back together” when a bunch of its members are in pieces.
Yep. The religion of pieces…
Or that old movie (and composition) Five Sleazy Pieces…
https://twitter.com/nousdefions2/status/1188544099873370113
The Washed-Poo Compost… killed by Jeff Bøzøs…
When you think about it, what is Compost, but dead organic matter. We’re going to have to meme that.
LOL, both Posobiec and Cates have modified their twitter titles to “Austere Scholar”. 😁
Anybody doubt who started the ISIS mess? Read this:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/27/flashback-2016-secretary-of-state-john-kerry-admits-president-obama-intentionally-armed-isis-in-syria-audio-recording-and-transcript/
This is operational knowledge. Good it kind of catches the hands in the cookie jar so to speak. I’d also take it back to Obama’s Arab Spring Speech in 2011 where the strategy was actually put into full play. Obama being the community organizer he is set the lofty idea of democratic reforms in the middle east and by that undermined the dictatorships that existed. The dictatorships could only give so much. The ones wanting honest reform took to the streets with out a real plan. The ones wanting to strengthen Mohammed’s law, like the Muslim Brotherhood, were the only ones really organized to topple the dictatorships and seize power. The honest citizen protests/revolts provided them cover to do it. Egypt, Lybia and Syria bore the brunt the Arab Spring, with others, to include in Africa, bore it to a lesser extant.
Obama’s Arab Spring talk fanned the flames of resentment under the guise that the dictator ships would have to give some which they did, but they could only give so much with out loosing power and then it was just take a step back and provide a nudge here and there like you read in the CTH article.
The result was to destabilize the entire Mideast and begin the Hijrah (The Emigration) which flooded Europe, being allowed to get underway using the guise of humanitarianism. It has been all about spreading the faith while robbing the land.
Swallowswell is “not concerned” about this mission in Syria, only about the phone call 🙄
I cant find the clip where they are oh-so-worried about this causing a surge in the polls, an increase in patriotism, and “hugging the flag”. These people are EVIL and STUPID. I cant wait til the hammer comes down and the Kraken is released
I’ll rely on my fellow Q Treepers for ACCURATE info……
Pissy Crissy can FOAD!
https://twitter.com/M2Madness/status/1188525801442086915
Dude on the left has a Salafist beard…they’re the worst, most extreme. Over here, they’re under surveillance…
terrorist and Mohammedanist indoctrination threat…
Thanks Cuppa ……………
Looking more and more “tribal”, she is.
IMPORTANT REVIEW THREAD – history of ISIS
This thread is still being written….it’s live!
And it’s a wonderful thread, valuable history.
Thank you for posting Ga/FL
Here it is in full:
Twitter has reached peak stupid today, so let’s educate everybody.
The Islamic State was founded in 1999 by Jordanian career criminal Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
It was called The Organization of Monotheism and Jihad.
In 2003, the group went to Iraq and took part in the insurgency.
Zarqawi’s goal–as explained in a letter–was to ignite a sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
In 2004, Zarqawi pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda and renamed his group The Organization of Jihad’s Base in Mesopotamia.
Everyone simply called it al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).
In 2005, Ayman al-Zawahiri–al-Qaeda second in command–outlined the strategy of creating a caliphate.
In 2006, AQI joined with other jihadists to form the Mujahideen Shura Council (MSC).
At the end of the year, MSC united with more jihadists and formed the Mutayibeen Coalition.
The next day, they declared themselves the Islamic State of Iraq.
The 2007-2008 troop surge by the US inflicted almost fatal damage on the Islamic State in Iraq.
By 2008, the group was almost completely destroyed.
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the new leader on May 16, 2010. He recruited former Ba’athist military and intelligence officers.
From 2010, the ideology of the Islamic State was a mixture of Islamism and Ba’athism.
The Ba’ath Party is national socialism. It’s modeled on the German National Socialist Workers’ Party.
The Nazis.
Obama withdrew US troops from Iraq in 2011, and by 2012, the Islamic State was back in all the places where we’d driven them out.
The dynamic was exactly the same as 2003-2004. Shi’ite Iran controlled Iraq, so the Sunnis turned to terrorists to protect them.
The Syrian Civil War had started in 2011. The Islamic State sent fighters to engage Assad’s Syrian Arab Army.
The Islamic State created the al-Nusra Front, which became al-Qaeda’s franchise in Syria.
In 2013, Baghdadi declared the formation of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which he said included the al-Nusra Front.
However, both the al-Nusra Front and al-Qaeda rejected this proclamation.
By February of 2014, al-Qaeda had severed all ties with ISIL.
ISIL was rampaging through Iraq, and it began fighting the al-Nusra Front and other jihadists in Syria.
In June of 2014, the Iraqi armed forces collapsed. An entire division simply ran away, leaving all its heavy weapons for ISIL.
By the end of June of 2014, ISIL was the most heavily armed and wealthiest terrorist organization in human history.
They got their money from selling oil, from taxes, from kidnapping for ransom, and from extortion.
Baghdadi declared the worldwide caliphate of the Islamic State.
Obama called them the “junior varsity” because he didn’t want to deal with them.
Also, the Obama administration adopted a self-serving policy of fighting only terrorists with “al-Qaeda” in the name of their group.
When Russia intervened in Syria in 2015, Putin tried to implement the Algerian Strategy:
Make the enemy so strong that the country has to turn to an unpopular government for protection.
The Russians didn’t attack the Islamic State for over a year.
What’s happening now in the Middle East is that the locals are doing the fighting, with support from the US.
Everything from 2003 to January 20, 2017, was a series of terrible decisions.
NOW, we have a president who listens to the locals.
What we saw recently with the “betrayal” of the Kurds was kabuki.
The Syrian Arabs and Kurds had painted themselves into corners. Trump got them out.
Assad is a figurehead now. He has no real power.
Under Assad, the Kurds were brutalized.
Now, THEY get to call the shots. Assad lacks the ability to take back the areas that the Kurds control. So they’ll work out a deal.
And as always, everyone is ignoring the Gulf Cooperation Council.
Westerners can’t intervene in the Middle East. We have too much historical baggage.
If we’re ASKED TO HELP, we can.
But otherwise, we need to stay out of their affairs.
Baghdadi was tricked into entering Idlib.
And multiple operations were carried out last night. The videos prove it.
Trump isn’t talking about them.
@realDonaldTrump is cleaning up the mess.
If you can’t see that, there’s no hope for you.
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Wictor goes back on twitter using the name of his role model?
Could be…. wearing a funny aluminum strainer hat….sure knows a lot about the war.
That photo is one of my favorites of him and Roseanne…
Well now….!!! :8-)
And the never-ending flood of clickbait begins…
Quick WordPress quesiton when posting a tweet here, do I copy the Tweet ‘link’ or ’embed code’ and drop it in??
Thanks.
The link in the address bar works for me.
Thanks!
It’s the first one in the drop down menu: “Copy link to tweet”
Not the embed link one.
Thanks T3 🙂
Twitter mobile links are live, but won’t open fully.
Too Funny.
https://twitter.com/KPiexe/status/1188292295659085825
I didn’t realize this until I just saw this posted in someone’s twitter….has anyone else seen this?
.”..al-Baghdadi Was Held at US Prison Camp Bucca in 2009 Until Obama White House Agreed to Let Him Go ..”
I didn’t know, but somehow, I’m not surprised.
Leftists, Obama Officials Race To Downplay Al-Baghdadi Death
It’s proving rather difficult for some in the political world to assign credit where it’s due on the death of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/leftists-obama-officials-race-to-downplay-al-baghdadi-death
ABC did a much better, honest job of reporting. POTUS retweeted them.
Bernie tooting the same old horn…. yet the commander of the Kurds praised Trump’s actions!
Bernie and empty food shelves ! Oh boy.. This man has no fear in telling you what’s in store.
Ha!
It’s a photoshop. Someone added the food boxes to make it look like socialism could “work”.
Well done, LadyP!
Compare that picture of Kayla with the one in Daughn’s post – one can see the horrible change that happened to her while she was captive – tortured, and then killed.
I just read that Breitbart article…I am speechless….that poor woman.
I thought it was worth reminding folks of some of the details. Obama abandoned her, Foley and Sotloff – while giving up 5 ISIS killers for Bergdahl. That Bergdahl walks around today is an insult to the memory of the men and women who died at the hands of ISIS.
Absolutely appalling…..
NEW TARGET ANNOUNCED!
He’s really going to have to dash, if that’s his car…
Round ’em all up and end ISIS for good, and forever…
https://twitter.com/LindaLiberty9/status/1188536388586573824?s=20
Simple – Trump intends to kill them – or let the GCC or other allies do it.
Indeed! President Trump has been copping at the bit to get these vile,evil terrorists for way before he was elected.
Copping …should be chopping
One more time …chomping.
Whew😓
Hilarious.
Nancy wants us to TELL Isis what we PLAN to do.
No, Nancy.
We’re not going to tell them.
They’ll never see us coming.
She’in mho showing sighs of dementia. Or maybe all that alcohol killing her brain cells😜
They not killed they pickled
Using my Deep State decoder ring, “…it does not mean the death of ISIS” decodes to “Message to all Deep State: No need to panic. We’ll bring back ISIS and be back in business with the usual gravy train shortly.”
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1188560310803845120?s=20
They have no concept(refuse to acknowledge) that the U.S. Military strategy for the defeat of ISIS includes strategic humiliation. Make ISIS so embarrassing that no one will ever seek to restore it.
I like that thought
Hmmm – I smell Turkey a la Sanctions……
New THREAD UP
What a DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
There’s been ANOTHER STRIKE THIS AFTERNOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG, we never expected this one.
https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1188515434179584000
And we thought Friday was a wild, winning DAY! 🙂 Just think what tomorrow might bring…
It’s raining HELLFIRE Missiles in Syria today.
Gusty call.
I’m so proud, sticking my chest out!
GOGOGO USA!
Red October isn’t over yet!
Can you believe it?
Another one!!!!!!!!
Moar
https://t.co/KtZnOkwtDE
BREAKING: U.S. strikes kill ISIS spokesperson one day after Baghdadi’s death in Syria raid
John Conyers, longest serving black congressman, dies at 90
Known as the dean of the Congressional Black Caucus, which he helped found, Conyers became one of only six black House members when he was won his first election by just 108 votes in 1964. The race was the beginning of more than 50 years of election dominance: Conyers regularly won elections with more than 80 percent of the vote, even after his wife went to prison for taking a bribe.
They going down all over
I want videos of the whimping “Caliph” being run down by dogs.
That would do more to shut down their recruiting than 100 MOABs.
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1. As more details emerge about the takedown of the ISIS capos in Syria, it’s clear that this is one of the greatest clandestine operations in decades.
It’s far more significant than OBL’s death, the only link between the magnificent performance of US special forces.
What makes it different?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1188510156247699463
Twitter
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2. Start with this accurate observation – it couldn’t have happened under the Obama administration.
It’s not just the cowardice of Obama and his people, who were frightened of these extremist and gutless thugs.
It’s also the simple fact that no one in the MidEast would have worked with Obama. They despised him as a weakling and loser, which he is.
In the MidEast, respect is given to the man with the strongest horse.
Trump has their respect.
Oct 28, 2019, 09:32 · Web · 12 · 22
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3. The Syrians, Turks, Iraqis, Israelis and of course the GCC under the Saudis, are not only willing to work with Trump.
They WANT to.
Not just that. Such is Trump’s power projection, they know what happens to anyone who crosses this special US POTUS.
People don’t realize how much this will elevate the prestige of the US in the troubled region. It may well lead to an entirely new dynamic between the nations there.
It’s a watershed moment.
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4. As for the situation in the US.
Impeachment is now DEAD. The House Intel Committee has utterly humiliated itself. As they played silly games, Trump got on with business.
Schiff and Pelosi may try to impeach POTUS, but they will utterly fail. Every member of Congress now knows that their seat is in danger, if they participate in the coup.
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5. Another thing – the FakeNews media is getting torched today, even on twitter, a leftist platform.
Openly mocked.
They won’t stop with their nonsense, but their efforts today to undermine POTUS and even sanctify Al-Baghdadi, reveal them as the corrupt liars Trump has been saying they are, for years.
Those of us who have been following events closely, will know what an important moment this truly is.
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6. Last point – as @ThomasWic has been explaining patiently for years, in 2017 Trump did what no other US leader has ever done – he ushered in a grand alliance of MidEast nations, including the Saudis and Israel, and assigned them responsibility to fix things.
Since then, it’s been one amazing event after another, including the takedown of major terrorists, reform in KSA, as well as major reversals for Hamas, Iran and of course, ISIS.
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7. And while there is a long way to go, the trajectory is undeniable.
The prospects for a MidEast period of peace and prosperity – on THEIR terms – is finally within their grasp.
As for POTUS Trump? Mt Rushmore awaits.
Hell, they may need a new mountain just for him.
We pray for his continued safety as he fights evil and leads American restoration.
#MAGA
The end.
matt: These haters fail to realize that hell is raining down on ISIS and Trump is telling all the little Baghdadis he’s coming for them too. That was a very clear message, especially with the dogs chasing him down. Very haram, that.
Defile forms to the right.
No real mention of the cooperation of the Kurds in nailing Baghdadi’s #2.
Hmmm…when was the genocide of the Kurds supposed to start?
Check the date on Trumps tweet. He’s felt like this for awhile huh?
They should have known better!
That message is unambiguous.
Unlike “Bring it on”.
Oh and BTW we remember Las Vegas.
“Continuing the previous operation, terrorist Abu al-Hassan al-Muhajir, the right-hand man of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and an ISIS spokesman, was targeted in the village of Ayn al-Bayda, near Jarablus, in direct coordination between SDF intelligence and the U.S. military,” Kobane said”
We now know what those conversations with Kobani were all about.
Ouch.
Discussions with the parents of Kayla, giving credit to our Military and President Trump.
Not at all happy with the Obama Administration.
Talking to Jake Tapper on CNN
Stupid stupid stupid. The raid isn’t over till everybody’s home.
Good thread on Potus and game theory
John Schulien @Johnschulien
Body language
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6) The biasing questions are disingenuously concealed as “held for future release.” But they are never released. If they were released, they would instantly reveal the poll to be a fake push poll. /end
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John Schulien @Johnschulien
5) Those questions have two intended effects –
First, actual Trump supporters get irritated at them and don’t complete the poll.
Second, the respondent is heavily spun towards believing whatever the poll suggests to them.
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4) What this means is that they “primed” the respondent by offering up a bunch of heavily biased questions that implied criminal wrongdoing by the President. Things like:
“Are you aware that President Trump asked a foreign country for damaging dirt on his political opponents?”
But they aren’t going to show you those questions.
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John Schulien @Johnschulien
2) Click on the “complete report PDF”
3) Look for something resembling this phrasing:
“Additional questions held for future release.”
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1) Easy way to tell when a poll is a fake push poll.
Go to the PEW website and find the article.
https://www.people-press.org/2019/10/17/modest-changes-in-views-of-impeachment-proceedings-since-early-september/
Modest Changes in Views of Impeachment Proceedings Since Early September
Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
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10) Addendum: I had forgotten that I had learned about Tit For Tat from the late, great Steven Den Beste. Here he applies the lesson brilliantly to the topic of war and deterrence:
https://web.archive.org/web/20060615011001/http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2002/02/fog0000000350.shtml
USS Clueless – Tit for tat
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If my facebook feed is to be believed, half the country believes that the House passed articles of impeachment today. 🤔
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John Schulien9) Once the rest of the world comes to actually believe that Donald Trump is a straight shooter, and that you don't have to fear being stabbed in the back by him, or becoming a victim of some sort of hidden agenda of his, the rest of the world will feel that they can now trust the American president, and that will be the foundation of trust that will allow President Trump to make breathtaking strides in world politics in his second term. /end
John Schulien8) He's not cozying up to dictators. He's *training* them. He's making *them* change their behavior and play by his rules, which are very simple.
John Schulien7) Barack Obama would have probably ignored the provocation. He wouldn't have wanted to lose the chance for a summit. And then he would have made more concessions at the summit. Just like with Iran. Donald Trump cancelled the summit, which was completely consistant with how he plays the game, and he *proved* to the Taliban that he does not play by Obama's rules. If the Taliban wants to benefit from Donald Trump, they have to cooperate with him, not stab him in the back.
John Schulien6) And now on to the Taliban. Apparently they were cooperating, and they were cooperating so well that they were on the verge of peace talks. Then at the last moment, they defected. Launched an attack in Kabul. Stabbed him in the back.
John Schulien5) And he does all those things better and more effectively than you do. What he's doing is teaching his competitors that it is much better in both the short and long run to cooperate with Donald Trump than to oppose and fight him.
John Schulien4) If you are important enough to be a player in the political game — If you publicly complement Donald Trump, he will publicly complement you back. If you publicly insult him, he will publicly insult you back. You might even get a nickname.If you make a peace offering to him, he will return the gesture. As if you were friends all along.And last but not least, if you launch a scorched-earth campaign of personal destruction against him or threaten his family, he will ruin your life.
John Schulien3) Playing Tit For Tat ensures that you never fall behind by more than one move, and once your opponent realizes that you are playing Tit For Tat, If they are smart they will realize that their optimal strategy is to cooperate for the rest of the game to get as many points as they can.
John Schulien2) When playing Tit For Tat you start out by cooperating, then on each subsequent move you "respond in kind" to your opponent's previous move. If your opponent cooperated in the last move, you cooperate. If your opponent defected, you defect.
I found the Tit for Tat theory very interesting….kind of like “I can be your best friend…or your worse enemy.”
Actually, Tit for Tat might be a good model for many of us to think about.
Vox journalist (of all people and of all places) says PDJT deserves credit from Democrats. He isn’t getting it:
https://twitter.com/AlexWardVox/status/1188545257107013634
The same people who whined and complained that Zero didn’t get enough credit from Republicans for OBL…
Which is why that journalist’s take is welcome.
Very true!
It’s becoming very obvious to almost everyone, including the people who aren’t normally political watchers, that the majority of journalists are unwilling to give the President any credit for any win at all…
Like trying to give credit for the economic expansion to Obama – when he should get credit for keeping the recovery going no faster than a snail’s pace.
Yes, yes and YES!
Sundance has a good post today on the other treehouse concerning the editing of the notorious WaPoo headline, Washington Post Mourns the Death of Al-Baghdadi.
Deplorable_Vespucciland made a comment on Sundance’s thread comparing and contrasting the Nixon spying on the Dems with Zero spying on the Trump campaign.
I attempted to post the following comment on Deplorable_Vespucciland’s comment, but apparently WP is acting up and won’t let me post there, or else I am currently banned OT.
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“Of course what the Obama Administration did to Trump in 2016 was a lot more extensive spying which makes Nixon look like a choirboy.”
You shouldn’t think of the two cases as unrelated to each other. Stefan Halper was intimately involved in both, as well as in Iran-Contra, in each case as a “Republican” attached to a Republican administration or presidential campaign.
What are the odds?
-In my lifetime, exactly 3 American presidents with a personal history of, or current activity in anti-Communist activism (Nixon, Reagan, Trump.)
-In my lifetime, exactly 3 American presidents that made the media go insane with personal hatred (Nixon, Reagan, Trump.)
-In my lifetime, the 3 biggest political scandals (Watergate. Iran-Contra, and Muh Russia/FISAgate) each involved one of these 3 presidents…
-And all three scandals featured the involvement of Stefan Halper, in each case pretending to be a Republican “helping” the respective Republican president or presidential candidate.
-And his activities in these scandals are the 3 most important, newsworthy events in Stefan Halper’s biography.
As Ian Fleming wrote, through the character of James Bond, “Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.”
Question: Who is behind Stefan Halper, and what does that person or agency have against anti-Communist presidents?
Daughn,
I apologize if this is too off topic.
But the WaPoo headline SD wrote about is definitely relevant to your post, and WaPoo “news reporting” and editorials were highly wrapped up in the history and impact of all 3 scandals I mentioned. So there is at least a tangential relationship, which runs via that birdcage liner, er, I mean media organ.
Cova, you might be onto something here.
No such thing as coincidence.
Actually, it’s Wolf who first pointed out the connections Halper had with the earlier scandals.
I’m just learning from him.
Thanks for creating this thread, Daughn!
Great job on chronicling and curating the details of this event!
😊🤗👍
“Pray for the dog”
-Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
on Maria Bartiromo’s show Sunday morning
A Tale of Two Dogs
It was the best of canines. It was the worst of canines…
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In searching the thread for the Lindsey Graham quote above before posting it myself, I found the word dog mentioned 10 times in Daughn’s post (mostly in the transcript of Mr. Trump’s announcement and Q&A session,) 7 times on the page of older comments, and twice on the current page of comments.
So many references to dogs clearly shows that our VSG POTUS is trolling his enemies, deliberately offending the Islamic State adherents by likening their hero and commander Baghdadi to an abstract dog, and even comparing him unfavorably to an actual dog, namely, the US Army K-9 he injured in blowing up himself and his three little human shields.
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Dogs are condemned in the Qur’an as unclean animals, as unclean as pigs, and therefore offensive to Allah. Their saliva is as unclean as other sources of contamination, such as the semen of a dog, the menstrual blood of a woman, or the touch of an infidel. Contact with any of these enjoins upon the believer quite an elaborate and time consuming rite of ritual purification. A dog may not be kept by a Muslim, unless the animal serves an essential purpose, such as a sheep dog or guard dog.
Muhammad was disgusted by dogs. (One of Baghdadi’s several attributes making it possible to recruit followers to potentially lay down their lives for him, and to plausibly claim to be the first Khalifa since the First World War, aside from his strategic sense, his capacity for obtaining funding, and his mastery of holy scripture, is that he is considered to be a direct descendant of Muhammad.)
To call a man a dog, or the son of a dog, is, in Islam, a mortal insult.
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Many Leftists in the Western world, as fiercely opposed to Trump as is any IS fighter, are educated enough to know all that I just stated, and many more know enough at least to have an inkling that Muslims would be gravely offended by the comparison of Baghdadi, or any Muslim, to a dog.
And, yet, the Leftists who know must keep their jaws largely shut, since, officially, Islam is an “Abrahamic faith”, exactly like Judaism and Christianity, and the nonsensical arbitrariness, the contempt of others, the pig-headed chauvinism, and the violence encapsulated in its many rules would run counter to the Narrative, if known to the Western public.
To speak would let the dog, er, cat, out of the bag, and thereby harm the Red-Green Axis.
I suspect that among the Leftists who do know foreign cultures the best, and who therefore are gnashing their teeth the hardest over knowledge they cannot speak, about how offensive Trump’s remarks are, are numbered many among the 🤡🤡🤡 in 🇺🇸 (C.i.A., for short,) including especially those who arranged the seed capital for Baghdadi’s play.
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Is “Karma” a flavor of popcorn? I think I might enjoy some this week.
SkyBlue has a long THREAD on Al-Baghdadi —
https://twitter.com/QBlueSkyQ/status/1188510635577036802