Are you ready? Only Gordon Sondland will testify today, and he is a key player in the whole Schiff Circus. He spoke to the President on 5 occasions, at least that is what we are being told. After yesterday, we can expect the Dems to try to make up some lost ground. Oh, and don’t spend all your energy here ——- there is a Dem Debate tonight.
Yesterday, ThinkThinkThink passed me this photo and it’s perfect for today. Members of the swamp, all having fun together.
Testimony will be streamed from same places as yesterday.
Thought I would take this opportunity to tell you a little more about Gordon Sondland, the US Ambassador to the EU.
Gordon Sondland was born in 1957, based in Portland Oregon, born in Seattle, founder of Provenance Hotels and co-Founder of Merchant Bank Aspen Capital. He’s a multi-multi-millionaire, if not a billionaire. Interesting – he dropped out of University of Washington to start the real estate biz —- he did well. His parents were Jewish and escaped the Nazis. He’s been married to Katherine (Katy) for decades and their charitable foundation, which supports families, has been active since 1999. Until 2016, Durant was the Chairperson of the Oregon Investment Council, the body that oversees the over $85 billion Public Employees Retirement System Fund.[68] They have two children, Max and Lucy.
Sondland has been enormously successful renovating older downtown buildings and turning them into fabulous gems from Denver to Seattle, to Los Angeles and back again. A project like The Old Post Office in DC, would have been Sondland’s dream come true. When he was appointed as Ambassador to the EU, his wife took his place as Chairman of the Hotel Company.
There is a lot of speculation about how loyal Sondland will be to President Trump. Let’s look at Sondland’s political history to see if we can discern how he “leans”.
- Sondland was a member of the transition team for Oregon Democratic Governor Ted Kulongoski‘s administration and was appointed by Kulongoski to serve on the board of the Governor’s Office of Film & Television.
- Sondland also served as Oregon liaison to the White House. (Under Bush)
- In 2007 President George W. Bush appointed Sondland as a member of the Commission on White House Fellows.
- During the 2016 United States presidential election, Sondland initially supported Donald Trump, but cancelled a fundraiser and repudiated Trump for his attacks on Khizr and Ghazala Khan
- April 2017, it was revealed that 4 companies registered to Sondland donated $1 million to the Donald Trump inaugural committee.
- On March 12, 2018, the Wall Street Journal reported that President Trump selected Sondland to be the next United States ambassador to the European Union. (Confirmed June 28th, 2018)
- Both Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) testified in support of Sondland.[33] Sen. Wyden suggested that Sondland’s “family history is both fascinating and instructive as to why he has the experience and understanding to serve as the U.S. Ambassador to the E.U.,” noting how his Jewish parents fled Nazi Germany before coming to the United States.
- Sondland served as Co-chair raising funds for the George Bush Center.
- Sondland has served as Trump Admin lead for coraling EU nations for Iran Sanctions, the SPV vehicle which skirts US sanctions, and has been a vocal critic of the Nord Stream Pipeline.
Because Ukraine (allegedly) wants to enter the EU, Sondland would be the primary lead guy in charge of Ukraine policy. Bill Taylor would answer to Sondland. Volker would answer to Sondland. There are two text message exchanges we will probably see today. Here they are.
Ukraine Bill Taylor: [12:47:11 AM] Bill Taylor: “As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.” This was seen as the “set-up” text message. It came AFTER the Politico article was released, and Taylor already knew the premise was bogus. Yet, here, he is trying to trap Sondland.
It took Sondland approximately 5 hours to reply to Taylor’s text message (because Taylor sent the message a 1:00am in the damn morning), and it was later revealed that Sondland had called Trump prior to writing a response, in which the president repeated the phrase “no quid pro quo” several times. Sondland responds:
[9/9/2019, 5:19:35 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly. Thanks
Wiki
On November 5, the New York Times reported that Sondland had provided updated testimony stating that he did in fact view delivery of the aid package as contingent upon the Ukrainian government publicly opening an investigation of Trump’s political rivals as desired by the President. According to the testimony, he relayed this position to Ukrainian government officials. (note the phrasing from the NYTimes – it could be that the President merely wanted corruption from 2016 and Burisma and origins of the 2016 election investigated ——– which happen to be the Bidens)
Fiona Hill created the theme of “The Sondland Problem” whereby she chastised Sondland for pushing more investigations. “The Sondland Problem” was a trending topic on Twitter, yesterday.
The press has been after Sondland as well. They interviewed his general contractor who is renovating his personal residence. No kidding. And the press criticized Sondland for spending over $250K on the renovation of his kitchen. Word to the wise, if Big T was a billionaire – and as much as I love to cook – I could easily spend a MILLION dollars on our kitchen. Besides, it’s Sondland’s own money.
Here, we see Sondland standing next to Secretary of Energy, Rick Perry. Sondland has done a good job for the Trump Admin and probably NEVER expected this kind of scrutiny. The left will be desperate to disparage Sondland…. it’s there best chance for something substantive. Let’s hope he can withstand the barrage.
Sondland will only be available in the morning/early afternoon session. At 2:30pm Laura Cooper, Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary for Ukrainian and Eurasian affairs and David Hale, Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs. We’ll do a seperate thread for them.
Thanks Daughn for the info.
The Dems are positively terrified of any investigation into Ukraine.
I’m afraid it is working.
Our DOJ may be afraid to touch something too hot.
https://www.oann.com/rep-adam-schiff-to-ukraine-dont-investigate-bidens/
daughn, where in that article do you see anything about the DOJ being afraid to investigate?
I don’t. Apologies for confusion.
I fear that there is so much spotlight on Ukraine, NOW, that any kind of an investigation will be perceived as political.
then maybe it should remain a secret until indictments are handed down…
Yea, that would be my take, hint at it, justify the hinting, but don’t drive it home. Maybe begin to spell out that this investigation has been going on long before phase 4 of coup was begun….
And that is exactly why they are kicking and screaming. They want it to appear as political retribution when the dirt comes out
^^^ Same reason Vindman won’t face justice. Faux impeachment needs to fade first.
Vindman will most likely face a military tribunal. There are just too many officers up in arms about his insubordination to the Commander-in-chief AND going around his chain of command to let this go. It sets a very bad precedence.
Rightfully so.
Vindman has intentionally violated numerous UCMJ Articles.
Wellllll, this made me stop on a dime.
And look who is reporting, it’s Michael Isikoff of Yahoo, instrumental in the Steele Dossier.
He’s reporting the FBI wants to interview the WhistleBlower.
https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-seeks-interview-with-cia-whistleblower-121637359.html
On the surface good news by me. However, me thinks, Isikof is part of the larger MCM problem, faux reporting and MCM collusion with D-Rats / deep state.
That said, WhistleBlower needs to be thoroughly investigated. It’s all part of an attempted coup, not WhistleBlowing. AND, yes, I am inadvertently, stating the obvious to what I believe are like minded folks. This entire Ukraine WhistleBlower mindset needs to be turned in the public news / Internet domain to reflect the larger coup attempts.
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Still believing the aux impeachment inquiry will be “tabled” within a week or so as D-Rats disingenuously announce their investigators are pursuing leads. Lead that shitty would describe as, “more than circumstantial”. This will linger through the 2020 election cycle with “breaking news” as an October Surprise. D-Rats have NOTHING else. A Hail Mary in the making, me thinks.
Me also thinks the only thing that will stop the faux impeachment is, a series of actions we patiently await…
– FISA IG report release. Includes declas and release of texts, emails, etc. Near total transparency.
– Followed by Huber generated massive indictments, arrests of previously thought “untouchables” Brennan, Clapper, Yates, Comey…hopeully into hussein’s inner circle. IF there is true justice, hussein himself.
those last 2 words…hussein himself…that’s on TOP of my Christmas list!
AND, IF hussein goes down, the entire Clinton Crime Family goes down.
Praying for Justice.
Not going to happen.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/20/20191120-shampeachment-testimony-of-gordon-sondland/comment-page-1/#comment-316740
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/20/20191120-shampeachment-testimony-of-gordon-sondland/comment-page-1/#comment-316743
Zero will have his reputation destroyed but there will be no charges against him. The constitution says that he must be impeached and removed in order to allow criminal prosecution. IMO the DOJ will produce a legal memo explaining that the constitution prevents prosecution.
WTHeck?
Checking comments from OT, and this popped up as part of a comment.
Nov 16 2019 of an ISIS leader captured in a Ukraine apartment building. But note this comment in their article.
“We know that the U.S. State Department that helps promote Democracy through the USAID program paid the rent of the apartment that these “Chechens” lived in. We have communicated with our American Colleagues to clarify why the apartment rent was paid by an individual named Yovanovich for almost 10 years (Lease prepaid in 2009) from the U.S. Consulate in Armenia.
Georgian Press Conference November 22, 2017 – Giorgobiani”
https://loomered.com/2019/11/16/high-profile-kidnapping-isis-leader-arrested-in-ukraine-bust-suspected-links-to-yovanovich-biden-kerry-pelosi-and-romney/?fbclid=IwAR2U7QGHHCuHGdwa926mYZYB6xo7BOv9-dIsw1hGuttGQcyCsycLLhXBbZ0
WOW!
Link that with the dig Comrade Fudge made on Yovanovich. She is like Typhoid Mary. Chaos, revolution and the overthrow of governments follow her wherever she goes.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1196540217131438091.html
Lefties just trying to protect the cows that keeps giving milk.
Unbelievable web.
NBC is convinced Sondland will turn traitor on the President today.
FTA
“They knew what we were doing and why,” Sondland plans to tell the House Intelligence Committee, according to his opening statement obtained by NBC News. “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.”
so the opening statement has been released to media already?
this is an attempt to dirty Pompeo
did we know this already? Ciaramella linked to Soros? thru emails…
FTA
The Soros links continue in the whistleblower report, which Breitbart originally reported mirrored concerns in a July 22 piece from the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, a foundation funded in large part by Soros and tech giant Google.
snip
While it was phrased as if this were information passed along to the whistleblower — i.e., “multiple U.S. officials told me” — a footnote about the allegations refers to the OCCRP report. “In a report published by the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP) on 22 July, two associates of Mr. Giuliani reportedly traveled to Kyiv in May 2019 and met with Mr. Bakanov and another close Zelensky adviser, Mr. Serhiy Shefir,” the footnote states. Furthermore, three more allegations in the whistleblower complaint are footnoted with the OCCRP report as a reference. Significant portions of the whistleblower report, in other words, were (at best) buttressed by or (at worst) merely echoing a piece from a Soros-funded organization that was — no matter how you feel about the information contained therein — a hit piece slanted against the Trump administration’s efforts in Ukraine.
https://neonnettle.com/news/9504-links-between-george-soros-and-ukraine-whistleblower-emerge
Article from American thinker. Adds detail to the timeline as well as greater understanding.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/president_trump_never_impounded_even_one_dollar_from_ukraine_aid.html
Should be fun. At stake is the unqualified mantra that Spy Gate in Ukraine along with Biden Gate are debunked conspiracy theories. Keeping this bulwark intact is all important in fending off against the coming IG report on FISA Gate and discrediting Barr and Durham investigations. Glad Nunes got the Solomon Report added to the congressional record. Should allow Sodland to add in after the fact reflections that justify any questionable actions.
Meanwhile expect Dems to attack Sodland’s credentials as a non professional appointed diplomat through out the hearing. It will be the businessman vs trained bureaucrat motif given as a larger argument of whom has the better qualifications to fill such posts is wrapped about the hearing.
Dems will also be seeing in Sodland, the closest thing to President Trump sitting before them and thus expects to see TDS on full display.
If we were questioning Soland today, what questions would we ask to fill in the time line, to refute the fake news den coup narrative that exists and is being built, and to go on the offensive against the corrupt dems? What questions could be asked today not just to defend POTUS against attacks but to shake up the current narrative? What questions could be asked to put the heat on the Dems re corruption in Ukraine within the bounds of the phone call and this “inquiry”? What questions could be asked to put the heat on the Dems to show the sham roots of this inquiry, that they know much that they pretend not to know, that it is politically motivated and that they are twisting themselves to create this charade?
What would we ask? What questions would we write for them to ask if we were key staffers or consultants? If we were the GOP MAGA think tank as lawfare is for Dems?
(We really can and sometimes do function as a think tank, a MAGA think tank. Great when we do! understanding current events and past events, the “news” narratives is critical – but affecting the future as a MAGA think tank would be outstanding!)
Sondland is blaming State Dept for not allowing him access to his records.
He COULD have had access to his records if the House voted for impeachment and this was an official proceeding.
The decision to release records or not is tied up in court, but the Dems refuse to wait for an answer – a legal answer.
Sondland did not want to work with Giuliani but did not believe his role was improper.
If I would have known about all his contacts, some of whom are under indictment, I might have acted differently.
Did not think it was improper at the time.
Every effort made to notify members at the State Dept every step of the way.
Not a rogue operation.
Everyone at State and WH was notified.
Every step of the way.
Giuliani did want a quid pro quo – needed a statement for 2016 election, DNC server, and Burisma investigation.
We learned WH suspended aid to Ukraine.
He was opposed, Ukraine needed funds to “fight Russian aggression”
In absence of explanation, I “came to believe” it was because the WH wanted what Giuliani was asking for.
He shared his opinion with Ron Johnson.
Sondland wanted aid handed over without an precondition.
Support Ukraine fragile democracy.
State Dept standard line.
Russia in the Crimea is a security crisis —- (it’s over with – Russia got Crimea – no going back now)
He worked well with Yovanovich.
Met several Ukraine officials in Brussels under Poroshenko and Zelinsky.
During Zelinsky inauguration, we were impressed with Zelinsky, anti-corruption, wanted strong relationship with USA.
Returned to WH on May 23rd to report back to President.
We asked for two things
A phone call between the two Presidents
A WH visit from Zelinsky.
“we asked for…” the President thru him or what the Ukraines asked POTUS for?
President Trump was skeptical.
Ukraine “tried to take him down in last election”
We tried to change his views.
President said to talk with Rudy.
President knew too much.
They did not want to involve Giuliani.
He believes men and women of State Dept should talk responsibility for matters in Ukraine.
He’s throwing Rudy under the bus.
Perry offered to talk to Giuliani.
Vl=olker made calls to
Early August – first time SOndland talked to Giuliani
wanted 2016 election, DNC server were important to the President
State Dept and NSC were ALL INFORMED.
They knew what we were doing and why.
Hmmmmmmmmmm – therefore for anyone at State Dept or NSC to claim they did not know about Ukraine accusations from Rudy ARE FALSE – they did know.
They were informed the whole way.
No abrupt termination of meeting on July 10th
He disputes Vindman testimony.
“We went outside and took some great pictures”
July 13th, three days later, I emailed Morrison, met him that day for first time.
I wrote, call between two leaders, should happen before 7/21, sole purpose is for Z to give assurances for new sheriff in town, any hampered investigations to move forward unobstructed, goal is for WH visit.
The NSC was informed the WHOLE WAY.
July 10th
Taylor told him Giuliani was still meeting with Lutsenko – and very concerned.
Meeting would not happened.
Good grief, please tell the Dean to let the official Government speak for the people
Taylor pushing Giuliani out.
Everyone in the loop.
Everyone knowing what was going on.
Rudy was communicating with Lutsenko who is supposed to be corrupt, without our knowledge.
Sept 24th Pompeo told Volker to talk to Rudy.
On july 25th they had the call.
Read it on Sept 25th, day it was released.
All I recall hearing was that the call went well.
Very odd I did not receive a readout.
NOW – people say they had concerns about the call, but they did not at the time.
Would have been nice if they told me.
Sondland was not on the call.
I have no reason to doubt the accounts of others who overheard this call.
True the President likes to use colorful language.
WH has not allowed me to see any readouts of that call.
I would have been MORE surprised if the Pres did NOT ask for investigations.
NO RECOLLECTION OF TALKING ABOUT BIDEN OR HIS SON ON THAT CALL
Was there a quid pro quo
yes
Giuliani wanted a statement, public, announcing 2016, Burisma, and anti-corruption.
Exact quote.
I talked to Zelinsky just now. Will assure him that he intends to run a thorough fully transparent investigation and intends to turn over every stone.
EVERYONE was in the loop.
No secret
Everyone informed on July 19th.
Volker and Rudy had a breakfast – teed up call with Zelinsky
Address any personnel issues.
Yermac, once we have a date, we will call for details set up press, for re-boot of relationship involving investigation of Burisma and 2016 election.
They got an agreement on statement
Everyone in the loop.
August 26th
Bolton requested Giuliani’s contact info on August 26th from Sondland.
He thought Bolton’s request very odd.
Taylor informed him on July 18th on hold on Ukraine aid.
Never learned why or participated in meetings on it.
Sept 1st, Ukrainians became aware of hold on funds (because of the POlitico article) in Warsaw.
If the Democrats get away with what they are doing then no other President in the future will be safe.
To me it looks as if they are working on making the president not relevant and put all the power in the Congress. I see that a president could in the future come out of the collective voted on my Congress no the people and only responsible to the Congress not the people..
Why do I say that? Just look what they are doing in heir power grab? Where does that come from not from the US constitution they all have sworn to uphold? This is foreign to the US.
Saying this is hate is to simplistic and by focusing on that this is motivated by hate we miss a lot. No it is not hate this is very carefully planned orchestrated. They are set to overthrow the government.
Obama was successful in changing the Intel , the FBI the DOJ. He was successful changing the Military and the only work left was to change Government itself. US has not in resent history had anything like this and memories are not fresh but mine are.
I heard the way Hitler came to power I saw the way East Germany was established and how it worked. I did not live long under communism but traveled every school vacation to my grand mothers who were left behind in he DDR. I saw I heard and lived it for 4 to 8 weeks a year with them.
I hope today will be a good day for President and therefore for us.
I admirer P Trump so much and wonder how he functioned while this is going on. Democrats do so much damage to President in the world and to all he has to do to keep this country going and safe.
“To me it looks as if they are working on making the president not relevant and put all the power in the Congress.”
“I admire P Trump so much and wonder how he functioned while this is going on.”
Both points, spot on!
Sondlands impression of withholding aid only came from Politico and the fallout from the politico article.
President had to cancel trip to Warsaw – Hurricane Dorian.
Zelinsky raised aid question with VP Pence and was it tied to aid. (delay of aid)
Sondland thought delay may not be lifted until statement was released.
But HE THOUGHT IT based on Politico article.
He knows how important it was for Ukraine.
I stress State Dept was informed and fully supportive.
June 5th, EU mission, Phil reeker, positive media coverage of Zelinsky at the event.
They do love the press – wow they follow the press.
Sept 3rd, Pompeo appreciation to join series of meetings with ukraine in Brussels.
Mike – responded – All good, you’re doing great work. Keep plugging away.
Our efforts were reported and approved.
Fully apprised the State Dept.
It’s been an honor to serve the USA.
Schiff crashing and burning.
No mention on the call of “Bidens”
David Holmes went down in flames.
President Trump wants the big stuff. He didn’t trust the Ukraines.
I was waiting for Sondland to stop and say, “Please quit putting words in my mouth.”
It was pretty obvious.
https://twitter.com/_RatAssassin/status/1197126026725384192
Schiff keeps trying to insert Bidens name
Schiff keep characterizing them as “political” investigations.
Schiff is trying to get SOndland to admit the President was looking for something “of value”
This is a key underpinning of bribery statute.
Schiff is winning here.
Not good for our side.
I disagree. He protested too much. The only thing I think is looking not good at this point is that Sondland is not a note taker, and that he relies on others’ notes and recollections to remember himself.
ONly good thing is that it is all coming through Giuiani and not the President directly.
but Sondland wasn’t on the call…if he’s a fact witness…what were the direct conversations he had with Zelinsky or POTUS?
Dem Counsel trying to portray the Trump Admin as obstructionist by denying documents to Sondland to “trigger his memory”.
Sitting in a restaurant with David Holmes in Kiev, whole team was there.
Was it Yermak? He’s not sure.
The Ukrainians didn’t let the staff into the meeting.
He called Trump from restaurant.
Unclassified conversation.
Topic was not classified.
It was an open line – both of us aware.
He does not recall holding the phone away from his ear.
He claims to have overheard part of the conversation, “President Trump loves your ass”
Laughter
Sounds like something I would say.
We communicate in a lot of four letter words.
When I said, “Zelinsky loves your ass” and “He’ll do whatever you want”, he meant Zelinsky was very eager amicable to work with the USA.
Disputing HOlmes
We had been talking about the investigations for quite some time.
“We know the Bidens were on President Trump’s mind”
Objection, facts not in evidence.
Sustained..the jury is ordered to disregard and the comment struck
Sondland – “If we wanted to get anywhere in Ukraine, we had to talk to Rudy”
Investigations had to be announced publicly – prosecutor is leading witness.
Not that they had to be finished, just started, and transparent.
Sondland is allowing prior testimony to stand and Dem Counsel is drooling.
He came to the conclusion the hold was conditioned ———– but it was because of the Politico article.
The announcement of the investigations – correcting.
He thinks it is a quid pro quo
He thinks the aid was held up on uly 18th, he never heard anyone advocate for holding the aid.
Press reports presuming it was being held or tied together. Again, Politico planted the seed.
It does not MATTER what Soundland or ANY of these other fools THINK. They have NO proof, only HEARSAY.
I could not give them a reason why the aid was being held.
He concluded the aid was part of the quid pro quo
Okay, I don’t get it. If we’re sending money to a foreign government, why can’t we put conditions on it?
We do. Problem is D-Rats and deep state creating a faux crime…simply does not exist. Think nervous Nancy’ SMEAR process.
Reality is, IMO, there are ALWAYS strings attached to money we give. Tax dollars provided to states, counties, cities, foreign governments. Tax dollars not intended as general funds – slush fund. Money has an intended purpose, not for some things, do this… All common sense. Also, tax dollars abused by scammers….Biden’s Clinton’s…well to be fair, probably 95% of politicians, their friends, family…
“concluded”
lots of employees with lots of thoughts that are sharing them freely and then acting on their own thoughts v. specific directions.
these employees would not fair well in the private sector as employees!
Objection! Speculation.
In pull aside in Warsaw, Sondland said to Yermak, he wasn’t sure but it COULD be the reason aid was held up (announce investigations or else).
!!!!!! This is VERY pertinent here on this thread as begins to explain why Trump admin didn’t tap into the vast pool of outsiders, non GOPe, Non swamp available to them to staff admin – talented MAGA conservatives from across the nation ready to uproot and go to DC in service to their country, President Trump and MAGA
We would have spotted deep state registers, even and maybe especially the RINO/GOPe half of the UNIparty.
There is the media bubble that we must “punch” through as then Candidate Trump said during the campaign. AND there is the Uniparty bubble/shield around the swamp, their fortress walls that MUST be Breached and then knocked down, thoroughly destroyed until no stone is left atop another.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/anti-trump-deep-state-blocked-trump-supporters-from-white-house-jobs-destroyed-database-created-to-recruit-trump-supporters-for-wh-positions/
Dang! This just burns me up and answers so many questions about staffing the admin that had puzzled so many of us!
Sondland again saying the assumptions he was making were based on his personal belief.
President Trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on the announcement
Tying it the announcement to release of aid was my personal assumption – was conditioned.
Never heard those words from the President.
I made the assumption talking to Giuliani, I knew he wanted Ukraine on the record publicly.
Good. This is enough unless he releases any other “bombs”.
And yet the LYING MSM is reporting that Soundland testified there was a quid pro quo, COMPLETELY ignoring the statement that Soundland SAID UNDER OATH. Soundland: ” I have heard rumors about many things, what do you want from Ukraine Mr. President.?” Trump: ” i want NOTHING, NO quip pro quo!, I want Zelensky to do the RIGHT thing, but I want NOTHING. ”
Game over fools !
I’m looking for something I can’t find. In Nunes’ opening statement, did I hear correctly that he is submitting subpoena for Hunter B and the WB? What I did see is that #presidentpelosi is trending. That is their endgame goal
I sure hope there is another shoe to drop here
Sondland just threw the President under the bus.
I am not watching live right now. how did he throw President Trump under the bus? what did he say?
https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1197167796033138690?s=20
What am I missing?
Sondland clearly says president Trump stated he does not want quid pro quo. Sondland as NO FACTS to dispute this position.
Yet, Sondland’ personal feelings are contrary to official word AND facts.
Bottom line, to me, Sondland won’t lie AND is an unhappy TDS driven bureaucrat.
That is because he was sent to dem “re conditioning camp” and THEN changed his story. So REAL simple. I could shred him.
Ready?
Ambassador Soundland, in you FIRST testimony you said ther was NO quid pro quo and you did not think that there was ANY hint of ANYTHING being held up. Then you changed and “ammended” your testimony days later saying there WAS.
BOTH cannot be true, so are you lying THEN or are you lying NOW?
Now when he says, which he WILL, ” I simply did not remember accurately everything in my FIRST testimony”
I then CRUSH him. “Well, Ambassador, you seem ALL over the place and confused as to the facts, how do we KNOW NOW that you are rememebering things accurately NOW, instead of then.? It seems that you are confused and THAT makes you unreliable, and ANYTHING you testify to should be taken with a grain of salt.”
Then he will say “No, I simply did not recall everything then, and new facts helped me remember”
To which I say “Ambassador Soundland, If “new” facts helped you remember something knew in less than two weeks, HOW can we be sure you will not get even MORE new evidence that might make you remember something else. Your testimony is simply too flawed and unreliable to be used to try aand Impeach a setting President.
GAME OVER, and I am not a skilled lawyer. Ratcliffe should SHRED this fool.
Text as I said, President saying “No quid Pro Quo” to Taylor, to alleviate his concerns.
He should take it up with the Secretary. (Pompeo)
He was under the presumption it had to be the Zelinsky who made the statement.
To get a WH meeting and aid released.
Really, the people with the answers to these questions are Sec. Pompeo, and Giuliani, and there is no way either of them can be run over by Schiff even if they actually showed up to testify.
This is looking like a bad episode of High School Musical.
5-10 minutes.
Taking a break so the spin cycle can ramp up. Hasn’t happened in any of the other hearings. My head hurts after watching this
Over time I began to presume all was linked. (the aid to the public statement by Zelinsky to the investigations)
They were not aware the Bidens = Burisma
Problem is = Burisma also equals BILLIONS of dollars in theft from Ukraine. If the DOJ had worked with Ukraine to recover the money from Burisma = The US taxpayer would not have to give Ukraine 400 million dollars a year.
^^^ AND bottom line above, “…US taxpayer would not have to give Ukraine 400 million dollars a year.”, is what drives President trump perspective on aid.
America First. Don’t waste tax dollars. Both of these perspectives contrary to deep state, DOS standard procedures, politicians in general.
Sort of akin to MIC loves endless wars. Deep state, DOS love endless programs to “help” other countries, AND line the pockets of bureaucrats, their family and friends.
There are trillions at stake.
BINGO!!!!!!
not only that, but i think it adds to these State Department employees prestige…imagine being courted at parties, dinners, events because you represent the most powerful and giving nation on earth…people would be sucking up at the speed of sound to garner your attention…makes them feel more important and powerful than they truly are…
Yup. That is the psychology of it. “I’m the faucet handle. Show me some love!”
STATE DEPARTMENT WEINIES!!!
Schiff – there was a quid pro quo
An official act was in exchange for something of value to the President.
Something he wanted for his re election.
High crimes and misdemeanors
Sec of State was aware
Mulvaney was aware
Schiff implying all the Trump Admin was crooked, and they are obstructing.
Good grief, I wish I was in there. I would throw the full cycle of corruption at that Schiff bastard!
“YES YOU FUCKER! We want investigation, so that our taxpayer dollars aren’t going into a pit of slime that pays Democrat traitors like you!!!”
And right on cue….Schifty has set the floor on fire in his race to the closest cameras
Yes, does look like Sondland is trying to protect himself.
Sondland just ran over
Pompeo
Giuliani
VP Pence
Trump
and Mulvaney
Curious as to how – if he is explicitly stating no quid pro quo and that was his assumption how is he also throwing them under the bus? What am I missing from the comments that throws them under the bus? thanks
Facts aside, nervous Nancy smear campaign adapted to Ukraine.
^^^ ALL factually BS.
“Under the bus” through innuendo, NOT facts.
Me thinks.
OK. confusing because everything I am reading from conservative sources are quoting him with quotes that exonerate President Trump for Dem talking points.
When will the GOP go on the OFFENSIVE in the Dem mess?
they will Never learn their lesson as long as the GOP only plays Defensive!
I think Southerland had so much input and so much was discuss with so many people and he did not write anything down. How many people can remember in detail casual conversation or official from months ago.
That is why this is such a farce.
Of course he tows people under the bus because he was not aware what Schiff is asking him and a lot of people made assumption that are not rooted in reality.
Correction: Sondland
Klintoons probably threatened Arkancide.
I have to say I’m praying right now that GOD strikes the deep state down. Permanently.
It appears Sondland is pushing back & disagreeing with Goldman’s narrative. Goldman appears to become angry with his own witness.
My perception of Sondland is that he came in as a willing witness for the Dems and suddenly got ‘woke’ to the fact that his earlier assumptions were used to write a narrative of ‘fact’…..I’m thinkin’ Sondland might be a little more combative in round II.
I’m inclined to agree. He’s not one of the club, and he’s not willing to perjure himself for admission.
Nunes: that was a chance for Democrats to hold a press conference.
Ha ha ha ha. Somebody willing to call Schiff on his $#!+.
LOVE IT!!!!
U1 summary thread.
The logic of the Dems is flawed.
The Dems are trying to convince America the only reason the President wanted investigations in Ukraine was for his own re election.
Using this logic = The President should be impeached for trying to save the world because it might be good for his re election.
Using the Logic = The President should be impeached for making the USA Energy independent because it was good for his re election.
using this logic = The President should be impeached for talking to Kim Jung Un because making the world a safer place is better for his re election.
Same with China
Same with the Veterans
Same with re-building the military
Same with the booming economy or unemployment
Same with negotiations with Mexico to stop illegal immigration.
If the President does something good for the people of the USA, AND it happens to benefit his re-election chances. Should he be impeached?
EXACTLY. You are seeing how the Democrats SNEAK IN on the other side’s POSITIVE and turn it into a NEGATIVE.
They do this OVER and OVER and OVER.
Trump – with his MASTERY of the downside – never takes his eye off the ball of delivering the positive in a positive way. The POWER of positive thinking.
The DEMONCRATS count on dumbing down the voter with their propaganda, to go along with the reframing of the positive as a negative.
Remember – what they are doing here is trying to turn THE ART OF THE DEAL into a BAD THING.
WE WANT A DEALER. It’s a good thing. The DEMONCRATS are trying to manipulate our thinking.
This is a perfect example of an ALINSKY FEAR.
The best Alinsky fears are where the enemy is made afraid of THEIR OWN POSITIVES.
I had a great boss who was like Trump on this, only she was not as good, and her reputation suffered because people simply couldn’t take the heat. But the bottom line is that she would push people to get things done, where the easy way out is some kind of negative, threatening quid pro quo, rather than what she really wanted, which is “WORK IT OUT, PEOPLE”. What you want – art of the deal – is every side gets what it wants.
INVESTIGATING CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR BY DEMOCRATS IN UKRAINE IS A LEGITIMATE DESIDERATUM BY ANY ADMINISTRATION – EVEN AN HONEST DEMOCRAT ADMINISTRATION, WERE SUCH A THING TO ACTUALLY EXIST.
So that said, wanting this legitimate thing, and wanting Ukraine to have COSTLY aid, which they would not need to be given if they weren’t paying off DEMOCRATS, is not a crime.
What BIDEN is doing is a crime. What TRUMP is doing is solving crime. Which would happen, if the WICKED DEMS would get out of the way.
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1197169996948017152?s=20
THIS! This is going to TOTALLY discredit Soundland, You CANNOT reconcile wha5t he TOLD Taylor in a private text, and what he SID he “feels” today. It makes him TOTALLY unreliable, and he will be SHREDED by Ratcliffe, Nunes, and Jordan. Schiff will probably break his gavel, trying to interrupt the questioning to “save” HIS witness. Won’t work. IF he tries it. Some Republican MUST take one for the team and OUT Ciaramella on LIVE TV and Schiff. Let the MSM then try and deny or NOT report THAT.
I thought this was a good moment.
We’re playing telephone on twitter. Somebody came up with a quick meme.
https://twitter.com/SupremeLordKek/status/1197193100831182848
There is a GREAT deal of finger point to a highly regarded Dem donor being involved in theft from Ukraine.
Yes, Ukraine has lost BILLIONS of dollars and it is mostly IMF money, which means it is American taxpayer money.
If the DOJ helped Ukraine find the money, the US Taxpayer would not have to spend 400 million a year.
NOW – the MP’s from Ukraine demand help from the USA to recover the 7.4 Billion.
WOA!! Reply to tweet
Now it becomes clear why shiff for brains is trying so hard to control the show.
I’d call them bureaucratic dissidents – guilty of sedition/treason.
YES! Their actions transcend personal preference, charitably professional…sedition / treason needs to be pursued vigorously. ALL rooted in $$$.
Intentional disruption, leaking confidential/classified information, disobedience – failure to carry out President Trump’s policy decisions. Just like Comey and Yates.
They are all guilty.
wtf
https://twitter.com/Roxesays/status/1197190623599697925?s=20
the date on the article is October 4
yes I know. I hadn’t seen this b4
gotcha!
lol…
what i meant was…oh, I misunderstood…not that I presumed anything…after all I’m not a US Ambassador…LOL
After the aid was released—not directly tied to the aid being released! In others words, we opened the investigation—now release the aid (this did not occur).
If Sondland’s notes and transcripts etc were held back from his review, is it possible that is because of the larger investigation or is that just wishful thinking?
Is this throwing red meat to the Dems a way to get more info out into the public realm? He kept emphasizing that everyone was in the loop….was he really throwing them all under the bus to save himself or is the bus just getting warmed up?
I like how your thinking….
I have been hoping since the public hearings started that we’d have a Perry mason/Joe Friday/Scooby Do/Columbo moment (pick your pop culture metaphor) that would reveal the smoking gun of democrat/Ukraine corruption right after the proverbial bullet renders this whole thing to be the seditious farce we all know it to be.
Fix above post – type faster than I think (which isn’t saying much)
…proverbial bullet renders this whole thing >DOA, revealing it< to be the seditious farce we all know it to be.
Could be. Shiff jumped the shark (AGAIN!) He went right out and highlighted Soundland’s testimony that he THINKS implicates Trump,even though it DOESN’T. He forgot, big surprise, that there are STILL the Republicans chance to cross.
What Schiff did is akin to a prosecutor going to the press after questioning a witness that SEEMS to indicate a guilt by the defendant, only to forget that the DEFENSE gets to cross, and that the SAME witness may just CREAM his premise during cross and completely exonerate the defendant (WILL happen today too)
Schiff tried to call the game over at HALFTIME. OOOPS. BIG 2nd half coming folks, BANK on it. Then Shiff will have just DESTROYED his shampeachment by highlighting Soundland, who I bet will completely be tied in knots during cross, and either directly contradict his dem questioning, or be TOTALLY discredited.
sharing TRUMPISM’S post on the open thread–it just too damned funny not to
https://twitter.com/CoBeeJay_USA/status/1196836087844556802
We were not the irregular channel because the leadership decides on the policy.
In re notes etc… “can’t get to them”… Interesting choice of words
Yeah…in a courtroom…this guy just spiked the deep state professionals.
I said it the other day, the President sets policy, whatever it is, and ANY action taken by ANYONE in the name of that policy, no matter WHAT it is is the regular channel. ANYTHING else, no matter the “intention” is the IRREGULAR channel. That is where this whole thing FAILS. BADLY too.
latest from Ben
Sondland just made a great point about the “aggreived” parties not having direct communications calling Cabinet secretaries “irregular” when it comes to channels.
The second half of the Republican counsel back and forth is going to be an important transcript.
Dems get another 30 minute session? Why is that needed….
Because Schiff declared they were going to have one.
Maybe……all that chum in the water this morning will pull in more eyes and ears for this afternoon. Schiff worried about….something….to award a second extended round from their side. This might get better
Schiff making up rules as he goes.
In Sondland’s testimony —- they had the President.
When it turned to Castor – he successfully rebutted.
Now, back to Dem Counsel, wants to get it back
15 new investigations into Burisma
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/767386700/ukraine-corruption-probe-audit-sought-by-trump-eyes-hunter-bidens-former-employe
Somehow I can’t see Mulvaney doing any sort of a drug deal.
https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1197198960609439748
BINGO. Using MSM “reports” of LEAKS from Schiff. This is dossier circular reporting 2.0. Again, Soundland is UNRELIABLE, he is too malleable if a POLITICAL article can influence his OPINION despite FACTS and STATEMENTS by the President to the contrary.
Sondland’s point during this back and forth with Republican counsel was that he’s Ambassador to the EU. That’s a lot of territory, and his days are long and hectic, talking with all sorts of people. Note taking is a luxury he does not have the time to take.
Frankly, that makes it look like the professional foreign service people have way too much time on their hands.
It also makes him UNRELIABLE. Is he misremembering THEN in his FIRST testimony? OR is he misremeber ing NOW. He has NO notes to back up his “memory” OR his “opinion” He has SPECULATION based on an already PROVEN faulty memory, because he had to “amend” his original testimony.
Where he is PROVEN unreliable is the ONLY fact we have, and that was his very own text to Taylor where he said unequivocally there was no quid pro quo. His FIRST testimony corroborated that FACT and evidence. He has NO corroboration for his change, only a “feeling and opinion” based on a BIASED Political article.
Soundland is TOAST.
Meadows “gets it”
This is going nowhere. Schiff is going to parse the testimony to buttress his claim and the media might very well go along with it.
Uh, yea. It is all part of the smear. Nervous Nancy stoopid enough to explain the smear mechanics to the adoring MCM.
.
.
A few years back, the first time I saw the smear executed. Hell we all saw it, the smear.
– That vile POS Harry Reid smear mittens regrading taxes or some such BS when mittens was running for President.
– Well after the elction was tossed by mittens, won by hussein, some reporter, (CBS or like phony) asked vile Harry, if Harry regretted the personal attacks on mittens taxes.
– Vile Harry smirked, and said, “it worked”. Sort of like the ends justify the means.
^^^ First application of the intentional political smear blatantly on display, AND admitted to by evil D-Rats.
Failed in muh Russia collusion. Failed in obstruction. WILL FAIL with Ukraine / faux impeachment.
I worry about the smear part. Most Trump supporters are not plugged in like we are.
Spot on.
AND, IMO, critical thinking is a vanishing skill, with many these days.
Don’t more than you think ARE in fact plugged in and listening. That is how Trump got elected, the dems ASSUMED that most Trump followers were not “smart” enough to make the decision. Trump won going away. This is just the same. They THINK they can fool people. Their own polling and actions (CBS cutting away yesterday) say DIFFERENT.
Contrary to MSM BS, the rabid left is only at MOST 20% of the populace. That AIN’T enough, especially when minorities and independents are flocking to Trump in droves..know why? Because he KEPT his promises and they see what is happening. WATCH.
I’m just watching to see how this plays out. More nasty stuff to come.
Nothing nasty, only smoke, but NO fire. The counter attack by Trump has not begun, it will be shock and awe.
What I mean by nasty is…staged events. But I agree, once the hammer goes down, the termites will scatter.
more like roaches when the light is turned on!
Paraphrased….Texts and emails are good for reference. Written notes….meh….DEPENDS on who is writing them
“…..DEPENDS on who is writing them”
….and when
Nervous Nancy delusional belief is her ascension to the Presidency.
– Take out President Trump and VP Pence.
^^^ 100% NEVER will happen.
Ohhhhh, that bitch!!!!!!
Misquoting Ken Starr
https://twitter.com/jengriffinfnc/status/1197188642567004161
yep thought this would happen. Each side is going to dig in. It’s all about protecting the impeachment vote. I don’t trust the Senate at all.
Little reason to trust the Senate.
Good news is, zero facts to support impeachment. Unless I missed something.
IMO, impeachment rooted in rumors, innuendo and personal belief by folks afflicted with TDS.
Zero facts to support impeachment.
Remarkably devoid of facts. We are easily manipulated in this country. That scares me.
She’s getting TONS of backlash!! Tried to send out correcting tweets, NOT delete the Inaccurate tweet! Too late, Screw her and Fox!! Apparently all the NeverTrumper commenters are assembled today. That’s why I’ve been watching CSPAN, don’t want to add to their ratings, nor hear their drivel.
Ummmmmm this might be important
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1197207357635387397?s=20
Come out it will…….
DING DIN DING. Wait till the facts come out in THAT trial,
Cross posting for posterity.
3607
Ukraine MPs Demand Trump and Zelensky Investigate U.S.-Ukraine Corruption Involving $7.4 bln
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
20 Nov 2019 – 12:24:02 PM
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html
What happens when the PUBLIC discovers the TRUTH [magnitude] re: [D] party corruption?
What happens when the PUBLIC discovers the TRUTH re: [FAKE NEWS] coordination w: [D] party to conceal, shelter, and protect those criminally responsible?
Define ‘Projection’.
THE GREAT AWAKENING
SHEEP NO MORE
WWG1WGA!!!
Q
Liking that Q post bigly;-)
Great timing by Ukraine. Almost as if this were choreographed.
These people (D-Rats, Deep State) are stoopid.
LIKE A PLAN. Imagine that.
Sondland’s experience with memory is familiar. Some things just stick with you. He most likely did not know he was going to have to testify to this, how was he supposed to know to write this stuff down. The man is busy in his job. They won’t let this go. Other then knowing the records are unavailable because the State Dept won’t release them, this focus is ludicrous.
Nunes: where are we today?
Ha.
Isn’t this interesting:
Swamp mud is thicker than water.
“I’m always in a good mood”
Only thing that would of made that better…..
Is if he was holding a giant microphone and dropped it as we walked to Marine One
That would have been awesome. Good idea, sauce.
Nunes had a good point. On Saturday in the bunker they interviewed the guy in charge of releasing foreign aid who can enlighten everyone on all the when’s and why’s. Sondlund’s perspective/testimony might be different/clarified if he had all the facts. Schiff refuses to let that person testify or release the transcript. Rules say Republicans cannot introduce new info or ask questions about anything that hasn’t been released by transcript. Schiff is stacking deck, tying hands, controlling witnesses and manipulating the entire process. UnAmerican, Total BS!!! SHAMPEACHMENT!!!
It makes absolutely no sense for the procedure to occur in this way.
How can we cross examine one witness when we do not have disputing testimony from other witnesses?
You can’t.
And AFTER all the witnesses were disposed, there should have been 4-6 weeks interim for the teams to put together their cross examinations, compare testimonies of others, and subpoena other witnesses and records for verifications.
IF they were interested in the truth.
That’s why it’s a SHAM!! Schiff is a witness, a Judge with own rules, the Jury, and the Executioner.
And they call POTUS a dictator??
If you read the Q drops, the team wants us to watch and for it to be out there.
It has puzzled me all along why Repubs are even participating. There was NO vote in Congress either to hold hearings OR change precedent from prior impeachment process.
Why didn’t they refuse to give this legitimacy – if they participate in a sham investigation why are they not defying Schiff’s rules and asking the right questions.
It’s looking like it’s part of the plan.
Who wants to lay odds it WILL come out..like being read on the House floor.
bwwwhhhaaahhhaaa
https://twitter.com/SHEPMJS/status/1197220782578909184
Wait, wait, wait……….. I’m shaking.
Damn, this is huge.
Read carefully.
According to Interfax-Ukraine, MP Andriy Derkach announced at the same press conference that deputies have received new materials from investigative journalists alleging that the ‘family’ of ex-President Yanukovych funneled $7.4 billion through American investment firm Franklin Templeton Investments, which they claim have connections to the US Democratic party.”
(Okay, this is the missing billions, some estimate as high as 30 billion funneled out of USA)
“Last week, November 14, the Prosecutor General’s Office (PGO), unnoticed by the media, announced a new suspicion to the notorious owner of Burisma, ex-Ecology Minister Zlochevsky. According to the suspicion, the Yanukovych family is suspected, in particular, with legalizing (laundering) of criminally obtained income through Franklin Templeton Investments, an investment fund carrying out purchases of external government loan bonds totaling $7.4 billion,” said Derkach, adding that the money was criminally obtained and invested in the purchase of Ukrainian debt in 2013 – 2014.
(Okay, Zlochevsky is the guy with the sapphire pinky ring who we keep posting)
(Look for Soros here, especially in this time frame – he specializes in collapsing a currency of a country – and we had a State Dept Coup of the Ukraine in the fall of 2013)
“The son of Templeton’s founder, John Templeton Jr., was one of President Obama’s major campaign donors. Another fund-related character is Thomas Donilon. Managing Director of BlackRock Investment Institute, shareholder Franklin Templeton Investments, which has the largest share in the fund. It is noteworthy that he previously was Obama’s national security advisor,” Derkach added.
(Wut?
They have Franklin Templeton and Tom Donilon involved in this one?)
HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyy
CRAPPPPPPPPpp
This is far bigger than ever imagined.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-indictment-reveals-hunter-biden-group-made-165-million-mp
GREAT GOOGILLY MOOGILLY!
You understand how big this is?
I do, and partially because of your reaction! But even with just the announcement of the indictment I knew it was big, but the details in the article you posted…that’s not a smoking gun, that’s a detonated nuke with tracer isotopes all over the Democratic party!
Change box from TNT to Nuke
AND nuke mushroom clouds…mushroom bigly;-)
I want to also know how much of the $150 BILLION that was given to Iran was funneled into Swamp pockets AND other Global Swamp pockets, as well.
Anybody else remember Iran threatening world oligarchs that they better take care of Trump or Iran will let the cat out of the bag?
And with the mullahs world hopefully imploding perhaps them cats will be free soon….
Yep. And hoping as the misery index for Iran mullahs and assorted shitheads leads to them outing hussein and his co conspirators.
You know they’re worried when they send Kerry over to the mullahs to make sure they don’t cave. This is ALL connected—the entire Global Scam!
Now what did I post yesterday. This was ALL about that IMF funding. NOW we get a hint where that money went, to the Dem and Obama slush fund. This is going to be H U G E. No wonder they don’t want Ukraine mentioned or investigated AT ALL. I bet that Crowdstrike server IS the smoking gun, THE money trail.
Define Irony. The Cabal used Ukraine to try and stop Trump in 2016, and they used it to try and get him impeached by Mueller in 2017-2019. Now they are using it to try and impeach him in 2019 AGAIN. Only Ukraine, once exposed, and it WILL be, will bring down the ENTIRE CABAL.
I have to wonder if those Red Cross cases full of CASH that Q showed us, were in fact the missing IMF $7.4 billion. He showed us that for a REASON. WELL in advance, just like everything else.
The pic of cash in Red Cross boxes was from a raid on an African dictator years ago. Unrelated.
I wouldn’t bet on any of it being unrelated to the rest.
Maybe same shit, different day.
NICE! Great brainstorming and connecting dots!
TY, Sometimes it just “clicks”
I ha e been tweeting the hell out of this and more… burning up Twitter.
And that’s exactly why I believe this is taking so long to start the indictments. The threads they’re unraveling are currently never-ending.
The impeachment “inquiry” is to dirty up POTUS for 2020, similar to what the Mueller Russian Hoax did for the 2018 elections, but bigger than that is the effort to stop the President/DOJ from finding and exposing the massive corruption the Democrats (and likely some GOP Uniparty) have been engaged in for years, decades.
G R E A T NEWS!!!
It will all come out…Action November it is.
Looking forward to a December to Remember;-)
Tom Donilon was in Obama Nat Sec Advisor position from January 20, 2009 – October 8, 2010
Executive Vice President for Law and Policy at Fannie Mae, the federally chartered mortgage finance company, as a registered lobbyist from 1999 through 2005
Donilon worked as Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs from 1993 to 1996, and served as the Clinton administration’s Secretary of State’s chief of staff.
He worked for several law firms. Joined Council on Foreign Relations, was Nat Sec Div when Osama Bin Laden was killed.
Then —– are you sitting down??????
You sure????
Read this part.
Donilon is the brother of Mike Donilon, a lawyer and political consultant who was Counselor to former Vice-President Joe Biden. His other brother, Terrence Donilon, is communications director for Roman Catholic Cardinal Sean O’Malley.[20] Donilon’s sister, Donna, is a nurse. He is married to Catherine M. Russell, who was Chief of Staff to Jill Biden, and in March 2013 was named the Ambassador-at-Large for Global Women’s Issues at the U.S. State Department. They have two children.
So his brother is Joe Biden’s lawyer, and his wife is Jill Biden’s Chief of Staff……
And Tom Donilon is at BlackRock when Ukraine government is overthrown, BlackRock is the largest shareholder of Franklin Templeton, and Franklin Temp is holding 7.4 BILLION of illegal funds/Ukraine bonds?
WTF?
Hmmm..heavy Philly connection
Sounds like some pretty cheesy stakes to me…
Q said to watch the wives… looks like we have to watch the entire family… kind of like a GIGANTIC termite mound… saw a picture where they poured gasoline over a mound, and of course there were furious flames (and even more furious termites) snapping and crackling and popping… swamp could use the same extermination treatment… Looks like the Orkin man is needed
Or at 4:00 AM or so: RAID
(Not RAID5, nor RAID50 or 60, but RAID 5000 or so…).
If Franklin Templeton is involved, how many other financial houses are involved?
I’m reminded of Templeton the Rat, from Charlotte’s Web…
Voiced by Paul Linde, IIRC.
Ha, that fits…
Wasn’t Paul Linde the one on Secret Squares that had the response to (question actually about UFOs):
“Jackie Gleason is sure that he’s seen them, but cannot be sure. What are they???”
Linde replies, “His feet”…
The host for that, Peter Marshall, is a good ol’ West Virginian… from the hometown of my kinfolk
Paul Linde was the best center square ever. I’m too young to remember him live, but there’s whole highlight reels of his zingers…and then he’d give the real answer. This was not a dumb man.
Glad to see your take on that!!!!!
I thought that looked important but some of the names were not familiar…..some of the starring players are in there though.
That’s huge. But Zlochevsky has disappeared. That’s going to make it harder to get information. Hopefully, it won’t stop the investigation.
Go Jordan!!!
JJ – Did the meeting happen?
GS – No
JJ- How many people were at that meeting?
GS – Confused look, what meeting?
JJ – The meeting that didn’t happen!
GS – , None, BwaHaaa
I told you guys that on cross the Republicans were going to SHRED this guy. Shiff declared victory at halftime. It will blow up in his face.
Head of Burisma was indicted today in Ukraine.
NOW you know why the “bombshell” testimony narrative. To DEFLECT and IGNORE this news. Nothing to see here move along while whistling past the graveyard. This is going to EXPLODE on the dems, and they will have NO answer except Trump is bad… BWAHAHAHAHAHA.
Congresswoman was mad at Sondland.
“How could you not think it was wrong to do what Giuliani wanted….. investigate Burisma and 2016?”
Sondland was confused.
Interesting that Ambassador Pyatt, Ukraine Ambassador under Obama, also requested a Burisma investigation in 2015.
And we still have no answer as to why the Dems are obstructing the ongoing investigation into the origins of 2016, do we?
OBSTRUCTION. Yes. MUHPEACHMENT is OBSTRUCTION.
Turner for the GRAND SLAM
You have to pull the video.
He just cleared it all up.
Sondland has no evidence of any condition of President placed on aid to Ukraine.
CNN and Schiff are full of schiff.
It was all his presumption.
Turner was a ROCKSTAR!!!
Sondlond’s PRESUMPTION is HEARSAY, NOT DIRECT EVIDENCE!!!!
Schiff’s mini-presser is a LIE. CNN’s chyron is a LIE!!!
BINGO. That is why one NEVER counts those chickens before they HATCH. Schiff just FUMBLED in his own end zone. He KNEW the MSM would run with HIS narrative, but that was only HALF the story, Ironically, by his “bombshell” press conference and grandstanding, MORE people tuned in to watch the Rpublican coss and DESTRUCTION of that narrative AND Soundland….Thanks Adam! Dumbass.
Adam is going to need LOTS of ice for that groin punch and LOTS of preparation H for his sore ass.
He didn’t fumble in his own endzone, he threw an interception into his endzone!
Giggle SNORT. GUFFAW…Told you, Schiff declared victory at HALFTIME. Please forgive me for this visual and the crassness of it….Schiff stepped on his own dick.
Definitely stepped on his own dick…… that is, if Schiff were only 2″ tall.
AGREED if ANYONE has “little man syndrome, it is Schiff. I think you might have been too generous…like microscopic.
Yea, lets just say he zipped up on himself….zipped too soon….gotta tuck it before ya zip it
I just heard now from Limbough that Sonderland was intimidated. A congressman Blumenauer welcomed Sonderland to the resitece.
Blumenauer has threatened to lead a boycott about Sonderlan’s wife Hotel and real-estate.
Blumenauer said he is calling it off because Sonderland joinend the residence.
Why is that not witness intimidation?
AND a quid pro quo.
Potus otoh is over 6feet tall and has to tuck it in his sock
POTUS gets to crawl into bed with Melania every night.
That ends any argument on dick size right there.
Schitt not only stepped on his own schlong, he stomped on it while wearing golf cleats.
He probably mistook it for a meal worm.
Agreed.
ooh….
Rush limbaugh just questioned ” who is pulling the strings of Sanderland, Vidman, Taylor and others.”
“Who is it who seems bigger than POTUS or anyone else.”
I found this interesting.
When we find out who it is then it is over.
Preamble may be over. Then the arrests and prosecutions can begin…treason, sedition…
OMG.
I had to be away all day today, so I have not seen any testimony until this piece.
First, God Bless anyone here who has watched this and posted commentary, because you are saints.
Second, WTF is a MORON like this guy clearly is, doing in any position of power or authority? Shouldn’t he be working as a Walmart greeter or in a McDonalds?
Third, if this isn’t the end of this shampeachment, I can’t see that anything REAL will ever end it.
Sondland is a self made ~billionaire.
He’s not a moron.
Just sayin’…
He just seemed so CLUELESS to me in that clip.
But I’m reading a Prognosticasaurus Rex comment right now, and I think I now know WHY?
Bingo Wheatie, THIS is what a death knell looks like. Good thing Schiff went out at halftime, had a press conference, declared victory and a bombshell, so that more people could tune in to the SECOND half and see the comeback, and OVER RUN of the dems, their narrative and little man Schiff. I said it before he stepped on his own “member”.
AND POTUS turns the KNIFE. LOL
Wolf hands POTUS a DRILL and an ADAPTER to go with it……
Spade bit i hope
Posted this for you wolf
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/08/767283820/not-one-drop-of-blood-cattle-mysteriously-mutilated-in-oregon
Thanks!
This is “unwelcome” news. The reason cattle mutilations ended for years, per Corso, was planetary exclusion – as in we started shooting down unauthorized craft. Not good if some of the damn pencilneck are sneaking in the back door.
Let’s hope they get the ozzy welcome.
Trespassers will be shot.
Survivors will be shot again
MOAR POWER!!!
Is there any statute in US law that forbids the President of investigating corruption, even the corrupt acts of an American citizen in a foreign country? No, it is his Constitutional duty!
Is it not within the power and duty of the President to require cooperation of a foreign government as a condition to receiving aid from the USG? Conditioned on the basis that there is no personal or professional benefit to the President or his Administration for said cooperation from the recipient, other than the proper assurance by the recipient that the use of the aid provided by the USG will be lawfully administered by the foreign country for the intended purpose.
A “bribe” is an illegal or unethical gift bestowed to influence the recipient’s conduct. Who is receiving “an illegal or unethical gift”?? The President of the United States—the president of the Ukraine? Is the legal investigation into corruption back in 2016 with Americans possibly involved in the Ukraine in some way illegal or unethical? According to the Democrats it is!!!
Pete, we have a TREATY with Ukraine, signed by Bill Clinton no less, that REQUIRES mutual corruption investigation and cooperation
And…Q just posted the pdf of that Treaty a little while ago.
……………………….
3609
Q!!mG7VJxZNCI
20 Nov 2019 – 12:48:14 PM
https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf
These people are stupid.
Q
I know!!!!!!! F*ck! Not saying that against you, Progno!!! Lol
Rep Conway brings us news that a Dem Congressman is abusing his office and being a bully by telling his constituents to boycott Sondland’s businesses in Oregon. This is causing protests, business disruptions, and lots of threats to him and his family. Sounds like witness intimidation to me!!
Rep Jackie Spiere dismisses by deflecting and saying President Trump is a bully too and does the same thing and moves on. 2X! With the gallery applauding. These people are sick!!!
The Dem Rep needs an ethics complaint opened.
They are openly inviting violence. That is how scared they are.
Here it is! Remember this?
Iran’s Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hossein Jaberi Ansari has just warned Western politicians that if they do not put pressure on the Trump administration the Iranian regime will leak the names of all officials who accepted bribes to pass the disastrous deal in the first place!
ALSO, notice the use of the term Western Politicians—now we begin to really see the size of this corruption and that it goes far beyond the Democrats, the DNC, Obama, RINOs—IT IS GLOBAL!!! The EU’s resistance to Brexit—they cannot permit rogue economically independent nations to exist.
These Western Oligarchs are siphoning the wealth and prosperity out of their countries in the lust to become Global Oligarchs.
“If Europeans stop trading with Iran and don’t put pressure on US then we will reveal which western politicians and how much money they had received during nuclear negotiations to make #IranDeal happen.”
^^^ AND, some wonder why the European countries so ardently support the BS Iran nuke deal. It’s all about the $$$$$ they were bribed with. Imagine, $1,500,000,000.00 cash arriving unannounced in the dark of night. Betting, disbursements were swift, AND disbursements also under cover of darkness;-)
AND, wondering here, how much money over the decades European politicians received to support Palestinians, Hamas assholes and ALWAYS oppose Israel.
Hoping all of what I suspect, comes out.
Great times we are witnessing!
I heard somebody calling it the “Great Awakening!”
BRILLIANT!
“Yes—I was able to buy a $15 million dollar waterfront home…cash baby!!!” (Barak Obama)
“Hah—F*ck global warming!!” (The Kenyan)
I could just see Øbozo mincing along in a pink polyester leisure suit, saying,
“I bought this house with NO MONEY DOWN! Actually, I bought this house with no money at all… of my own… Gee, isn’t socialism and cronyism great? Eh, Daddy Mr. Soros?…”
Good for Turner!
This clip precedes that one:
KABOOM!!!
Sondland is charitably a dope. It’s as if Sondland thinks his “presume” is evidence of fact, admissible, actionable. How the f@ck do these people get to be placed in such important positions, Ambassador, and be so f@cking ignorant.
I’m racing through a catch-up read between tasks, but this looks damning.
https://twitter.com/M2Madness/status/1197233351213629441
That’s the one, I could kiss you, Dep!
Republicans continue to nail it…forcing witnesses to state clearly ZERO FACTS support the quid pro quo Ukraine narrative…impeachment hoax.
How is Schiff not in hand-cuffs?
Let the crimes pile up and then prosecute on one crime. If he wriggles out of that, prosecute on a second and on and on until you find one that sticks.
IOW, the team wants him to commit career suicide before going that route.
But, WAIT…
In the clip above, Sondland testified that no one ON THIS PLANET told him that Trump was tying the aid to the Biden investigation.
But, what about people not on this planet? THAT wasn’t ruled out!
Quick CNN, run the presses! Sondland just testified that someone could have possibly told him that President tied the aid to the Biden investigation.
/sarc
This whole thing is a farce. The Democrats are investigating the “crime” of Trump asking people to investigate CRIME.
Democrat. ABUSE. Of. Government. And. Law Enforcement. Is. HORRIFYING.
Solomon just said on Hannity paraphrased ” why have the so called Ukrainian expert not told POTUS that the investigation into Barisma had begun some time ago and there is no need to ask.”
Of course we do not know what was told POTUS but to me it looks like an imperfect setup because in my eyes it failed.
Now lets see how corrupt anyone is on the Senate site.
To me it is astounding how little these people knew except gossip and on gossip they try to impeach the President and that is very sick.
This is a very good point. There will almost certainly be circumstantial evidence that Charlie the Tuna and Windbag tried to set up POTUS. I would be MONEY on it. Sins of COMMISSION and SINS OF OMISSION.
Two different Worlds.
One is reality, and one is the made up fake news. As I’ve caught soundbites here and there, and even a little of Ken Starr on FOX (Brian’s radio show played the clip) one would think that the Dems had proved everything they’ve been saying. Every news report is saying POTUS is guilty, guilty, guilty, and these witnesses have confirmed it.
The Lefty news organization are all tweeting the same narrative.
Yet, in my conservative twitter feed, and conservative sites (like here) – the opposite is being reported. People like Richard Baris, Cates, Larry Schweikart, etc. all are reporting how the Dems have been destroyed, their narrative burned up in these hearings.
I know what’s right. But by the news being reported, you’d think we’re losing… not winning.
I’m looking forward to some handcuffs being placed on these bad actors – including in the media – maybe charges of espionage might overcome their 1st Amendment protections. They’re as complicit in this hoax business – even more so than the Dems. The Media IS the fascist Left.
Think about it… Paul Ryan just joined FOX – he’s as intent on destroying America, as old Schiffty eyes up there in that hearing.
Control of information and knowledge—yes, the media is the Deep State HQ. Without them, the false narrative cannot exist.
We were always at war with Oceania… (no BigBother smiley, darn)…
We knew this would happen—anything predictable can be countered. 2020 is gonna be a doozy!
That is my original point. This is a smear campaign..that’s it. It will be followed by other challenges to his presidency. Flood the zone.
It truly is a race against time. When does the hammer come down?
I have to believe that POTUS and AG Barr know this, and they also know they have to stop the criminality.
Too much noise in the channel from all directions. I keep thinking something big is about to happen. Maybe I am wrong..but the news churn is flat out amazing
Maybe we’ll get there yet, NYGuy.
lol
So Sonderland’s a cropper
Burisma guy’s locked up
Prince Andrew’s soon for hiding
Trump’s 4-8’s big and Gallup
Leads biteme in Wisconsin
Epstein’s guards charged now they are
Guy54 where areeeee you ?????
What I want to see are the audience numbers. How many people are getting which message.
I have to step away, but WOW it looks like I’ll need to watch a replay.
Democrat Sean Patrick Maloney is acting like a smug jerk. He is demonstrating the frustration the Dems have with this witness. They are looking desperate at this point.
Quick reminder – Polly has really dug up a lot of nasty on Vindman, Yovanovich and CIAramella. VERY criminal. The reasons they are sensitive on this stuff are RIGHT HERE. The STINK of KGB-CIA-MAFIA is strong on these people.
https://youtu.be/MJsTquX9WMk
I get video is unavailable. This video is private.
Oh wow…this just happened.
It was playing just fine a few minutes ago!
This is how Youtube is censoring vids…by marking them “Private”.
Polly was mentioning the whistleblower’s name, Eric CIArmarello, and a lot of other stuff that Youtube doesn’t want exposed.
it’s all happening at once…we are very close…very close.
Polly moved the banned video to Bitchute,
HA! USSRTube at work for Menshevik Mommy Wocommie.
Amazing Polly just tweeted this out…about her video being removed.
https://twitter.com/99freemind/status/1197272011233472513?s=20
The Storm rages on….
I wonder how much the Queen had to do with this.
I have a feeling she ripped him fore to aft. She is from a different time, a different ethos, and certainly a different sense of morals (despite the idiot Prince Phillip, who I think is partially to blame for this).
Similar to Prince Harry, Andrew was not directly in line for the throne, so he saw fit to “sow his oats”, It seems that others in the British Royal family also did that (remember the scandal of Edward VIII that led to George VI assuming the throne)… “Randy Andy” has been a problem for almost as long as I can remember, and an embarrassment to the Queen. He has put her, and the royal family (OK, they’re royals, but they’re STILL A FAMILY) in a very awkward position, and she has (likely) repeatedly warned him.
I would not be surprised if the Queen lets Andrew stew in his own juices (as the Brits put it)… it’s sad, but sad for the victims, not for him. He’s only a victim of his own pride, lust, and ego… Will be interesting to see if he “mans up” and owns up to his misdeeds…
He is incredibly snobby and until the birth of William was second in line to the throne. Super sensitive re his and his girls(princesses of the blood) regal status. Travels everywhere with 6 staff. Gets 20,000 pound naval pension and 250,000 from mummy. But wants to live the life of absolute luxury. Been selling his royal patronage since he got out of the navy. That’s how Epstein roped him in. He’s greedy. He owns a Swiss chalet with 6 staff worth millions, his house in England was brought by an oligarch for 3 million over asking. His ex got a 5 million dollar loan from Epstein that somehow he managed to pay back.
Same story . Follow the money
I remember when Prince William and Kate got married. Randy Andy’s daughters were (apparently) dressed by a Martian Mistress… One of them had a hat on that looked like it was purloined from a bowery shop… Pearly Queens not included…
Owwwwww…. Garn….
He insisted on protocol to the point Kate had to curtsy to his daughters till george was born
Makes me think of Cinderella (or Cinderfella )…
It looks like he’ll get his comeuppance…
I hope and pray that William and Kate restore some sense (and reality) of normalcy, decorum, honor, integrity, faith, and honesty to the throne.
Prince chuckles I won’t address. I had hopes, as a cellist, that he would be normal, constructive, wise, and a contributior to British History.
I was wrong (it’s all your fault, Life Magazine from 1964)…
Every time I see the Queen I’m reminded of my Mum (RIP), five years older, but similar in appearance and voice (and decorum). One of the last vestiges of a time gone by (like a Vaughn-Williams folk-song suite); something and someone to whom we owe much, and hope to honor and emulate…
Many people criticize the royals; but look at the DEMONicRATS: are WE any better???
Better a benevolent Christian monarch than a despotic, Satanic DEMONiCRACY…
(and don’t get me started on Merde-Kuh. We just had a horrid stabbing here, von Weizacker’s son, a renonwed surgeon and expert Internist, killed by a 57-year-old (supposed) German – I suspect a false flag – on wonders what is next…).
The queen has comported herself with dignity and perfect impartiality throughout her reign. Sadly she took her duties so very seriously that she neglected her maternal duties. This, however, was the norm, not just for royalty but the nobility and wealthy.
I posted a link to a comrade fudge article which spelled out brexits doom for the eu, China and Africa. Europe needs to get its shit sorted and kick out the culture enrichers ASAP. The financial burden alone will be insupportable.
True
LOVE Soland’s expressions when being told what Schiff and CNN are saying about his AM testimony.
LOVE GOP bringing in Schiff’s press talking points to be rebutted in real time
Fight, GOP, Fight & Fight to WIN
Yes Mama, FIGHT is needed Right NOW
Trump wine..!!!!!!!!
I wonder where to get that ? I have to Google..
https://trumpwinery.orderport.net/wines/Red-and-Rose
Thanks for bringing that info plumnelly …
Fartacus tries to make a shot…and fails.
man, one of the Rebub bit players shoulda snuck a whoopi cushion into the hearing today…
…lost opportunity
Swallowell – the human whoopie cushion…
Fartacus: I came, I saw, I Fussed…
Sondland gave him the “you are an idiot” laugh!
Okay, so I just wasted my morning listening to most convoluted pile of discrepancies that I have ever heard. That gets topped off with Adam Schiff portraying himself as Hamlet and spittling his words ‘The Meeting, The Meeting, who gets to determine the Meeting”
This charade is absurd.
Question: Can the parliamentary rules ever be suspended?
Comedic Relief
Orrin Hatch certainly is enjoying retirement.
Info pouring out of Ukraine now.
This is MP Andriy Derkach, the guy who brought the case against MP Leshchenko and Sytnyk, Director of NABU.
Leschenko leaked the black box docs which got Manafort fired and everyone thinks are fraudulent.
Sytnyk is the one who we have on audio, admitting to helping Hillary.
Well…… they were convicted in Dec of 2018
Jan of 2019, case was overturned for “issuing part not having proper standing” and “statute of limitations”
March of 2019, Derkach appealed.
New trial started in October 2019.
Flood of info on Burisma and Bidens included here.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/interview/618506.html
The timing on the release of all this Ukraine information today puts a smile on my face…….Did you know daughnworks that today is Joe Biden’s birthday?…What a gift….bwahahahahaha.
Just posted on the Open thread…
The US Navy announced this afternoon that the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier battle group just transited the Straight of Hormuz into the Persian gulf yesterday, ratcheting up the pressure on Iran by a factor of about 100.
Thank for posting this FG&C, trying to keep one eye peeled while all hell is breaking loose in Iran.
Perhaps its time…..
And what’s going through my mind after reading that,
“Glory, Glory, Hallelujiah”…
With all the news coming out about Burisma indictment & Franklin Templeton money laundering, if ever there were a time our foreign aid should be tied to anti-corruption investigations, it is NOW.
Schiff pulled the thread; he can’t rewind it now. We’ve known ‘forever’ that IMF, World Bank, USAid etc. are mostly giant scams transferring our tax dollars to globalists & govt agencies. I always thought Africa was example #1. Turns out it’s Ukraine. Let’s start there & rip them apart.
We can’t break up the bureaucracies via our votes, and we can’t stop the laundering by refusing to pay our taxes. I’m beginning to think there is no peaceful option for draining the swamp. We need arrests. Lots of them. Throughout our intelligence & state departments. We need drastic downsizing & firings. We need an end to Obama’s SES designated ‘lifer’ appointees – how the hell can he unilaterally establish a personnel designation that a future President can’t overturn. It’s like the damn DACA designation.
Pissed. Pissed. Pissed.
yeah I’d really like to know more about how Obama could establish lifer appointees–and POTUS can’t undo that…maybe send them to Outer Mongolia to monitor …uh…something
Transfer their positions to San Francisco or Los Angeles.
YES!
put them on the Executive Needle Recovery Team
Or worse, send them to San Francisco.
they’re gonna be without power today….
Both FNC Chris Wallace and Ken Starr out with statements that Sondland ran over the Trump administration with a bus.
Idiots.
I know! Brian (Idiot) Kilmeaded played Starr’s nonsense on this radio show. Almost word for word said that this looked bad for Trump. What universe are they living in???
Sickening, because the low-information voters who only catch a soundbite or headline, will believe it.
I want handcuffs on these people.
Saw it a few minutes ago, now spreading like wildfire
DNA test confirms, Hunter Biden is daddy of child born to the Arkansas Cocktail Waitress.
LET IT RAIN…LOL LOL LOL
She better hurry and file those child support papers
You know, you get coked up, and you’re like a f*cking rabbit, jumping from hole to hole! First, his sister-in-law, then a waitress in Arkansas—who’s next??
IDK but for 83000/month I hope he buys some Trojans
LOLOLOL!!!
perhaps he could be on the Trojan board of directors and get a lifetime supply for free ? He’s got experience on being a figurehead and being an irresponsible moron
From the Hunter to the Hunted…
Liar, liar Yovanovich
getting cases dropped against Oleg Deripaska
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2019/11/20/ukrainian-intelligence-sources-report-ambassador-yovanovitch-lied-to-congress-protected-russian-oligarch-on-sanctions-list/
Daughn, you are truly amazing. Ever grateful for your many contributions!!!!
Alright, sedum and peonies have been trimmed back for the winter. What did I miss?
Hmm.
https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1197247812922171392
KKKANKLES SAID WHUUUUUT?
Wicked Alinsky beayatch.
Yep.
13. One of Satan’s favorite numbers… (illumis, Freumaurer, Bonesmen,et. al. …)…
13 – the date a whole lot of things happen in the Church, actually. October 13 to be precise, but it looks like this year was quiet.
Okay folks, I have to stop.
Can’t do anymore. Wil pku again tomorrow. Eyes are crossing.
Love to all.
Thank you for all the work Daughn and everyone who makes these happenings informative.
Thanks MQ for all your hard work!! Get some rest
Great post and thread…
That JD will get you every time Pecan pie makes a great antidote (Aunty-dote???)….
Take Care, and howdy to big T (Mr. Big T. ???)…
(or Ciao (bello) to Tomaso)…
Lmao..Sondland is so pissed
https://twitter.com/Beaner5280/status/1197217197556285441?s=20
Yes, NYGuy, he is not a happy camper! Think he has had enough Shitt!!
A couple of the questioners said they knew he had a plane to catch later.
Piss on Sondland…just another DOS piece of schitt. Hope he missed he plane.
Ask which side SOVIET-MOLDED OBAMA was really on.
Jim Jordan on
https://twitter.com/Mighty_rodent/status/1197244514747998208?s=20
MagaMom linked an AmericanThinker Article that is VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/president_trump_never_impounded_even_one_dollar_from_ukraine_aid.html
The critical sections:
WHY DID THE SECOND TRENCH NEED CERTIFICATION?
All president Trump did was FOLLOW THE LAW CONGRESS WROTE!
I am very grateful for your post. It is encouraging and uplifting, wonderful to read after such a hard day.
Thank you!
Not a bad day.
Schiff ran to the microphone again……… before cross examination where Sondland revealed never tied to any aid, and all speculation that the WH meeting and Zelinsky announcement being tied to delay in aid was because of his PRESUMPTION.
Hammered home with Trump’s own words, “I want nothing. I want nothing. No quid pro quo. Tell Zelinsky to do the right thing, what he ran on.”
Thank you Daughn,
I missed all that. I read all thr bad stuff then had to leave and was gone all day.
Thank God for this, and thank you for letting me know!
In Ukraine, people can go seriously missing…
https://twitter.com/JBP3666/status/1197294070634369024
He’s probably been Arkancided. Or, perhaps was Epsteined.
Or “oligarch-ed”.
LMAO!!!
Is this still going on?????
This is more dullness. Why are These two people here? All they know is aid was on hold, then it was released. More tell us how it made you feel from the Dems.
How does that make you feel, bfly?
Ok guys, after doing some listening and doing some serious contemplation, I have come to the conclusion that Soundland was a trap…for the DEMS. Bear with me.
First Soundland gives a behind closed door testimony totally vindicating the President, NO quid pro quo, and his text verifying that with Taylor comes out. Dems and Schiff are PISSSED. Then, out of NOWHERE, Soundland “suddenly” amends his closed door testimony citing “new facts” that caused him to rethink his “original” position and that he now believed that there was a quid pro quo.
Well, NOW Schiif and the Dems LOVE him, and the put him into the lineup for their televised scam, which I would bet my Gopher suit on that he would NOT have been anywhere NEAR if he had not altered his testimony to “fit” the dem narrative. Schiff makes him the “golden boy” and gives him the ENTIIRE morning alone.
Soundland gives a 45 minute, 23 page, opening statement, CONVENIENTLY highlighting ALL the dems wet dream list, Rudy, Trump, Pence, Pompeo, EVERYONE the dems in their wettest dreams want to oust. Soundland ominously FORGETS to include in the rambling speech THE smoking guy that EXONERATES Trump, the direct statement that Trump told him he wanted NOTHING from Ukraine, and that there would be NO quid pro quo. and that ALL he wanted was Zelensky to do the RIGHT thing, and follow through on his promises. Zelensky ran and WON on an Anti corruption platform and PROMISED to clean it ALL up.
SO we move on, and the dems and Schiff, who would NOT ask, for the exculpatory evidence, and were too STUPID to think it was NOT there proceeded to “question” Soundland on EXACTLY what THEY wanted to hear, and, absent cross, and the RIGHT questions being asked, Soundland complied.
Well he said he PRESUMED that there was in fact a quid pro quo for aid to the Ukraine, and not ONE dem thought to ask IF he had evidence. Nope, that was good enough, they got their soundbite. Breathless MSM pudits, including the never Trumpers on Fox could not contain their orgasmic fantasies…they FINALLY got him.
Hell, Schiff then could not contain himself, he called for a break, one which Soundland obviously was saying WHAT to. Schiff, after a short delay, probably to jerk off in the bathroom, sprinted to the Cameras and announced, matter of factly, We got him…Trump was guilty of bribery, quid pro quo, extortion, treason, and using the wrong sunscreen. Trump also wore white on the golfcourse AFTER Labor day…the HORROR.
One problem for Schitt…er I mean Schiff. He spiked the ball at HALFTIME. Schiff forgot there are TWO haves to the game, they appeared to “win” the first half, but the Republicans refocused at halftime, and came out on FIRE in the second half and SWAMPED Soundland, the Dems, Sciff, and their wet dream narrative.
Rep Turner DESTROYED the game, hitting the hole and scoring a 99 yd TD on the first play from scrimmage. He got Soundland to not only admit that the whole quid pro quo narrative involving Trump was his PRESUMPTION, but that NO ONE on the PLANET had told him that there was ANY request for or returned favor for the aid to the Ukraine. It would get WORSE.
Jim Jordan then dropped back and through an 80 yard BOMB getting Soundland to not only state that in the call with Trump that Trump EXPRESSLY told Soundland that there would be NO quid pro quo, but that he wanted NOTHING in return.
Now the the Republicns had gained the lead, and the dems were shell shocked. Elise Sefanik then took a short swing pass, and ran 75 yards for yet another rscore when she got Soundland to admit that there was NO ONE that tied the aid to Ukraine to ANY meeting OR statement.
Rep Radcliff then capped the epic comeback and blowout by Having Soundland confirm again that there was NO quid, pro or quo. GAME over, that is why you do not call the game at half time Schitt..er Schiff.
Now on to the trap part. Rush revealed that Soundland and his wife were the victims of Dem intimidation in Oregon, obviously that is WHY he “amended” his original testimony, the dems thought he was now THEIRS. Just as planned.
Wait, WHAT!? You mean that Soundland is actually team Trump? Yep, and ALWAYS has been. Soundland donated OVER 1 million dollars to the Trump inauguration. Soundland was IN ON the trap. Taylor was the one that TRIED to get Soundland to incriminate Trump in that text, and Soundland REFUTED it all right there.
The dems then did what dems do, knowing that Soundland was the ONLY one of this crew that ACTUALLY did speak directly to Trump, they needed him to flip, or else ALL of the other “witnesses” were USELESS. Soundland “flipped” just as they hoped, and amending his original testimony, to fit the dem narrative. The dems THOUGHT their pressure had worked. See, they completely ignored his TEXT with Taylor. They would not get Soundland for PERJURY, because you do NOT get to amend sworn testimony 180 degrees without MAJOR repercussions, unless you are a dem or “helping” a dem narrative.
They ALLOWED Soundland to amend, and notice, before NOW, the Republicans NEVER objected…and THAT is the tell. They KNEW Soundland would exonerate the President under cross, and it would DESTROY the dem shampeachment. When Schiff skiked the ball at halftime, I bet they could not believe their LUCK and Schiff’s stupidity.
They GOT them folks, the dems were, noticeably SHOCKED on what Soundland HAPPILY revealed under Republican cross. They did NOT know what hit them. Just as planned. I told you all a few days ago that THIS was showtime, and that someone would “Flip” and exonerate POTUS…it was Soundland.
What to know how I think this entire thing was part of the plan and a setup? Trump himself, AGAIN, told us. Recall that DIRECT conversation with Soundland, which is TRANSCRIBED somewhere, you can BANK on it.
Soundland made SURE to as the RIGHT question. ” there are rumors…about Ukraine…just WAHT DO YOU WANT FROM THEM?.
Trump POUNCED, as planned. I WANT NOTHING…There will be NO quid pro quo, I don’t want anything from Ukraine, I just want Zelisky to do the RIGHT thing and follow through on HIS promises( to weed out corruption in Ukraine). That was the MONEY shot.
Why would Trump EXPLICITLY use the words quid pro quo with Ukraine, I want nothing would suffice…but NO he EXPLICITLY said NO quid pro quo. Trump NEVER used that, and WHY would he? he was NOT accused at that time, he did not even know this was coming…or DID he.
If I am right, and I think I am, Trump, Soundland, Rudy, and others like Pompeo, Barr, and maybe even Durham set up the corrupt players like Ciaramella, Schiff, Pelosi, Vidlnad, Yovanovich, Taylor AND revealed Biden and the dem corruption in Ukraine in one fell swoop. This will probably net Victoria Nuland, John Kerry, Johnathan Winer, and Alexandra Chalupa as well.
See, the dems and Cabal FORGOT that there has been and STILL is an ONGOING “leaks” investigation…they KNEW who the leakers were. They set a TRAP and that trap netted them WAY more than the leakers, it will take out a few BIG pieces like Pelosi, Kerry, and Schiff. Biden is GRAVY, he leads to the WH.
If you STILL think I’m crazy…riddle me this..what ELSE happened today…Ukraine INDICTED the president of Burisma. Ukraine TODAY had MP’s ASK for help in finding a missing 7.4 BILLION in aid from the US (IMF). There are NO coincidences.
Want more fuel? I was listening to Greg Jarrett. It was exactly 55 days on the “hold” on Ukrainian aid. it was released on SEPT 11 2019. No coincidenc there right 55= 5×5. Who said that? Oh right, Q…He also said enjoy the show.
I am Q..GREATLY. I cannot wait till we get to the CLIMAX. It will be must see TV. It will be public and undeniable. just as planned. I cannot wait for scene TWO, coming shortly (horrowitz) and then scene THREE starring Durham.
Spot on analysis. So many dots connected…with known facts, logically and reasonable conclusions.
In my mind I keep hearing President Trump last rally had thre distinct statements I had not heard spoken together, the third, never heard. President trump says, I broke the Bush Dynasty. I broke the Clinton Dynasty. then, went on to say, he xxx the Obama Gang.
– Many of the Obama Gang cited above.
– Me thinks, as you indicated above, Horowitz IG on FISA and Durham delivering indictments will have the Obama Gang cascading down bigly.
– Along with many IC, FIB, DOJ…
– AND, private citizens, me thinks.
Agreed.
Tucker Carlson just noted, all four Sondland atty’s are Dem donors.
Raskin, sitting next to Sondland, donated 130K to Dems.
Speculation the Dem lawyers wrote Sondland’s opening statement. I would have my atty’s write my opening = that would make sense to do.
But they did not script his testimony, because that was nearly 189 degrees from the opening statement. Methinks they THOUGHT they knew what he would say, but the DIDN’T
Agreed. My parallel version is this. We nailed who the leakers were a while back, including Windbag and Charlie the Tuna, but – as you say – realized it was WAY BIGGER – not just leaks, but YUGE, and included foreign bribery, etc. Biden, Obama, Jarrett.
THEN – when the DEMS tried to SET UP TRUMP via SONDLAND (with that text from Taylor), Trump and Q team figured (or already knew) that was part of the DEM PLOT.
They told Sondland there was no QPQ, but had him just play along, like FLYNN did. Just tell Sondland to do the right thing – the rest will be taken care of.
WICKED CONNIVING DEMS fall for it every time.
wolf, “Wicked conniving Dems”…I honestly think these vermin have been following orders for long, for $$, they have altogether forgotten how to think.
They are stuck in a sort of micro-managing reactive/response mode, unable to analyze or absorb reality.
It’s rather heartening that our few White Hats seem to be getting sharper.
These “hearings” are developing into quite the mismatch, in a sort of perverse, entertaining fashion.
Very much agreed. It’s bad fun to watch these burglars stepping on rakes!
wolf. it IS…and I am not the least bit embarrassed.
They STILL think Trump is Elmer Fudd.
Thank you for putting into words all the thoughts that have been rambling and scattered in my brain….excellent analysis!!
Volgarian…I agree. this take on Sonland makes sense.
YW, the Gregg Jarrett interview and thinking about just WHY Trump used the EXACT wording in his call to Sondland that the dems would later try to nail him with, made me put two and two together. NO ONE not even Trump uses that phrase, the last time I had heard it besides HS was in Silence of the Lambs,,,quid pro quo Clarice…
Thank you for this analysis.
I was thinking somewhat along the same lines — but hardly as thoroughly as you — as I watched testimony here on BBC Parliament.
Yet, when I watched the late night news yesterday on ITV, the reporter said the opposite. Basically, Sondland had effectively sealed the impeachment deal and that Trump was now in very deep doo indeed. I couldn’t understand that, yet my far better half agreed with the news report (BBC must have said the same thing), not having watched three hours of testimony.
I am so grateful for these threads, because otherwise I would be doubting my sanity.
Q said, TRUST YOURSELF. That little voice telling you something is not or is right, is usually spot on. Think logically, not emotionally. With Trump try to think BIG picture and out of the box!
Thank you — greatly appreciated.
YW!
Dems keep hammering that DoD completed its certification in May so Trump had no reason to withhold aid. BUT DoD only certified defense issues NOT corruption issues. Dems are failing desperately trying to get these folks to say POTUS is bad. Cooper won’t do it, she’ll only comment on actions that she knows about. Howell is the same, offering no opinions. Again, why are they here, they have NO DIRECT EVIDENCE!
“…they have NO DIRECT EVIDENCE!”
^^^ Common among all witnesses thus far, except Sondland. Latter quoted President Trump clearly. Wanted nothing. No quid pro quo. Zelensky do what he campaigned on.
D-Rats have nothing. Yet they’ll pursue a baseless nervous Nancy smear tactic.
Nice to hit that corruption angle, too! B-B-B-But it might hit B-B-B-Biden!!!
OMG – THE GREAT ONE has just HIT ON THE BIG ONE!!!
This is the exact same M.O. that Obama used to SHAKE DOWN KEYSTONE PIPELINE!!!
Obama shook down the pipeline forces by getting them to hire Sidley Austin – his old Chicago law firm – to try to get the approval. They spent an UNGODLY amount of money, and all they got was STRUNG ALONG.
It was a SHAKEDOWN!!!
These people! They are such SCAMMERS! Oh, this is the oldest trick in the book. Saddle up your “friend” with a “great partner” who will NEVER DELIVER because he’s IN ON THE SCAM.
This is how we KNOW that some of the cash HAS to be circling back to OBAMA!!! Just like Keystone! Look there and you will FIND!!!
Schiff makes me puke. OMG, please tell me we’re not doomed for another day of Schiff.
Stepped out and came back at the end where Schiff was once again denying the witnesses that Republicans requested. He also refused over and over and over to recognize R’s many point of orders. That’s not allowed, all PoO’s MUST be recognized!!
Ukraine policy by State and DOD is clear to me.
The will not stop until they rebuild the entire American Army on Russia’s border… and they want us to pay for it.
We’re supposed to defend Ukraine “from Russian Aggression”, but it’s okay not to allocate funds to our southern border and defend the USA homeland.
These people make me sick.
We are not the world’s policeman. What are we getting for OUR money??? I want a Wall!!! We need new roads and schools And, And, And……
So, Cooper gives her opening statement which jives with her deposition. Then she drops a hearsay bomb. At the end she mentions two emails that she said her staff received and recently informed her about. Both contained statements that the Ukraine Embassy was asking about the money on July 25 and that “The Hill” also knew. She has no more information than that…More last minute conspiracy??
Dems and MSM are now blasting headlines that “Pentagon Official claims Ukraine knew about the hold on July 25”. (Instead of August 28 from Politico article). Republicans tried to probe, but she had no more information. We need more information. President Zelensky did not ask about a hold on the July 25 phone call and has said he didn’t know about it.
Media ran with it.
Of course.
And Ratcliff successfully destroyed her premise.
Again, she heard it from a friend….. who had a conversation…….. at a party…… with an unknown Ukrainian………. about 4 months ago.
Her little amendments were supposed to be the icing on the cake they had so carefully prepared (Sondland). DNW thinks his Den lawyers wrote his open and it played right into the Dems hands.
Only problem with that…the cake fell
My bet is that this Schiff show will go on as long as the Democrats think that they need to go to completely (in their little minds) discredit Trump. Whpen the hearings start in the Senate, I expect them to go until the six presidential hopefuls have no hope.
My real hope is that the Republicrats take this gift of a standard and apply it to every incoming Democrat president-elect. They need to draw up articles of impeachment before the numb nuck gets a chance to plan his (or her) inauguration. There needs to be no more rolling over and playing nice like they did for Obama.
Amen Mark.
Let’s pray to God above that there is NEVER a Democrat pres-elect to test that plan
I cannot WAIT to see the result of “ratings” for the Dem Debate tonight.
Can anyone imagine having to watch a Dem debate after all this crap today?
Schiff is killing their message.
Good.
There was a Dem debate tonight???
We had the NY Rangers vs. Washington Capitols on.
Ukrainian MP says Burisma head to be indicted, Hunter Biden slush fund named –
https://www.oann.com/ukrainian-mp-says-burisma-head-to-be-indicted-hunter-biden-slush-fund-named/
Ukraine is indicting the head of Burisma and new reports are surfacing, which will have a direct impact on impeachment hearings. One America’s Jack Posobiec has all the details.
This is a photo of the outgoing Obama White House staff after learning Trump won.
Who is that on the far right?
Is that the man who shall not be named?
No, it isn’t.
This came up last week. The man you are thinking of has very dark hair.
What a shame. He has the sulky look I’m thinking Charlie the tuna must have
There are loads of them out there.