Cultural Marxism and the Tyranny of the Mini Skirt

Building the connection between Cultural Marxism and the mini-skirt started with a comment from a high school classmate. We, the graduates of a certain all girls high school in fly over country, participate in an annual fundraiser resembling the NCAA Basketball Tournament. The various decades go through the whole bracket thing (we start with 1960s v 1980s, 1970s v 1990s, etc., and whittle it down to two classes). It goes on for a few weeks before we get to the final combatants. The winning class for any one bracket is determined by percentage of class participation. For the last two years, my class – one of three in the mini-baby boom a few years into Generation X – and a class quite a few years our junior have been pitted against each other in a battle to the death.

This year my class won. Take THAT Generation Y…at least I think they’re Generation Y.

At any rate, what was interesting to us “old ladies”, was a comparison of the two class pictures taken on the front steps of the school when we were seniors. In my classmate’s words, “We were so modest” in our clothing choices compared to the other class when we were out of uniform.

In examining at the photographs, my classmate was right. We who were teenagers in the 1980s were covered from neck to well below the knees in clothes that were in no way form fitting or tight, and the ladies coming of age over a decade later were ALL sporting skirts that hit them at least three inches above the knee.

There is something to be said for this comparison simply being about the ebb and flow of fashion over the decades, but somehow…given current trends…an argument can be made that women’s natural instincts to be conforming, to an extent, are exploited to the point that we are being manipulated into what the Cultural Marxists want us girls to be above all else: sex objects, and subject to human desire moreso than any other force.

I write that not to be hard on my own sex, but as an observation after searching high and low in ready to wear clothing for longish skirts to feed my own rebellion against the tyranny of the mini skirt. Even among the outfitters that offer the plain American woman fare, it’s not easy to find – longish skirts that are not denim and versatile. A handful of retailers do carry long skirts, but they tend to all look alike.

Due to the sheer number of mini-skirts on the market, and several of them being pleated and/or plaid just like the proverbial little Catholic school girl who was the subject of more than one derisive pop tune in the 1980s, (trust me, there were – and are – plenty who couldn’t even fake purity if they tried) it just seems that there is some other plot afoot.

See, along with the baby burlesque offerings of decades past and present, despoiling those who are “pure” is a fetish of the perverted, even if that “purity” has to be faked.

Of course, that’s not how the fashion of the mini skirt was sold to women when it became all the rage in the waning days of the most influential fashion designers of the twentieth century. No, back in the 1960s, the mini was a symbol of breaking free of the established order of things, and that, the cultural marxists in control of the entertainment and mainstream media channels at the time assured the young people of the world, was just what women wanted to do.

(Three generations later, we know that the goal was to break down society and turn it into a matriarchal culture, Henry Makow posits, but the reality is, the people at the top of the food chain wanted paganism back. They have been busy putting all the legal aspects of pre Christian paganism into place, and filling the void the planned decline of religion and the associated lifestyle created when they imposed crap like women’s lib on an unsuspecting public.)

It’s not that the mini-skirt was really new when it appeared in a London boutique in 1964. No, minis had long been a part of entertainment costumes for dance, musicals, and science fiction offerings, entertainment that was either saccharine or dystopian in nature, and completely not grounded in reality. In other words, the mini skirt represented an escape from reality. That it happened to show off a woman’s legs…well, the men, ahem, didn’t mind.

Honestly, how were mere mortal women supposed to compete with this?

https://youtu.be/A2XdG8oF3sM

And it’s not like this was a lone occurrence. It was more like front loading that eventually gave us this.

This particular video touched off a (hand wringing concern from the mommy set) tangential firestorm regarding encouraging overeating and obesity as opposed to girls developing eating disorders that result from teenage girls trying to achieve the impossible as presented in airbrushed pictures. Psychologists can argue over which is more valid of a concern for the modern parent of teenaged girls.

What it did in the context of this essay, though, was use the mini-skirt to sell to young women the idea that their sexuality depended on wearing one.

Which is worse, the mini skirt or leggings for showing off legs, etc., is a matter for a different debate.

The truth, though, is that the mini skirt at this time in history, perhaps since its appearance on the fashion runways in the 1960s, has held women in the grasp of Cultural Marxists. It is expected that we chuck our natural modesty to bare knees or risk being labelled something other than sexually desirable women.

What is interesting about that is that the woman fashion designer who liberated women from some of the practices that were actually dangerous when it came to shaping – Coco Chanel – considered the knees and the elbows to be ugly, and thus believed that they should be covered as often as possible. Her fashion creations reflected that belief.

A parallel construct in fashion is women in trousers, jeans and the like. Along with leggings, that’s an argument for a different day. The reality is that since the Cultural Marxists started to dictate fashion choices outside of the preppy realm, and pushing the classic American fall back look aside – to the point of derision – in a lot of ways, young women have been put on display like pieces of meat. It is now expected we be revealing, or we risk being sidelined and compared to leftist heroines like the vampiress Fiona Hill.

What makes the rise of the mini-skirt as expected fashion egregious in so many ways is that the Cultural Marxists used women’s natural tendencies of wanting to look good, be attractive, popular, and fashionable against us to make short skirts a norm in the female wardrobe happen regardless of modesty concerns, religious related or not, and men being, well, men.

Talk about tyranny.

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GA/FL

Yeah – but the 80s styles were modest and skirts were longer. It was all about Laura Ashley dresses with lace collars.comment image
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Little House on the Prairie was a hit show.

GA/FL

At least that was what was going on in the South fashion-wise.

Deplorable Patriot

Up here those dresses were late 80s. Early was alligator city, and then some weird angles. Things were modest. I went to a funeral a few weeks ago, and the grand daughters of the deceased would NEVER have worn what they did if their grandmother was picking out their clothes. I’m serious.

GA/FL

When the cleavage craze hit – I saw grown women with 4 inches of cleavage at church and at a funeral. Imagine the poor preacher trying to concentrate!

Deplorable Patriot

Still happening in these parts along with the gold zippers that make everything look really cheap.

rayzorbak

The “Cleavage” craze……
I think of it as the “tit split”.
Female version of a plumbers crack?

Deplorable Patriot

No, dear, that would be a whale tale.
And what is wrong with a little cleavage after 5 pm?

rayzorbak

Not a darn thing!

Deplorable Patriot

I knew I liked you.

rayzorbak

opposites sometimes attract 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Wait. A 😉 goes with that. $#!+. I swear it’s the cough medicine.

rayzorbak

What does 5 pm have to do with anything?

Deplorable Patriot

A son of the south is asking me this?????????????????
😳😳😳
Okay, so in Gone With the Wind, and at a few plantations I’ve visited over the years, it was a general rule women didn’t show their bosoms until 5 pm or later. Ankles never, but boobs after 5 or dark.

rayzorbak

That was long ago 🙂
Now ANYTIME of Day/Night is ok by me.

Deplorable Patriot

Uh-huh.

rayzorbak

Just don’t get mad when we guys look if you’re gonna show ’em.

Deplorable Patriot

Now, why would I do that?????
Yo, eyes up here.

rayzorbak

ok…. just don’t SLAP!

Deplorable Patriot

Just s finger under the chin.

rayzorbak

But I’m a foot taller than you…….
I was looking at your ….. shoes…. ya…. that’s it 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

And I forgot to do my nails.

Deplorable Patriot

Seriously, my dresses like that were purchased in 1988 and 1989. I also had a couple jumpers that were chinz. The flat chests…talk about the big squeeze.

rayzorbak

That top dress looks like a “Ginsberg”

GA/FL

LOLOL!!!!

Deplorable Patriot

FLAT. You can say it. Personally…it’s a no go anymore. Have to have spandex, and I’ll leave it there.

SingularZoe

I loved those dresses. There was a time 200 years ago when just showing a bit of ankle was considered very provocative and improper. DP, this was an interesting essay. I remember when my mother let me wear my first mini-skirt. I wish she had said “no.” Still, I did not wwear them routinely. I was more the wool plaid skirt and sweater kind of girl.

Deplorable Patriot

My mother is/was a wool plaid skirt and sweater sort. It tempers my diva tendencies.

Sue Mcdonald

I just love Laura Ashley dresses.i shop thrift stores to find the dresses I wear, you can’t find good dresses any longer. I wear dresses every day exceptions are winter cold and rain.i am a woman and as such I am not wearing slutty attire ever. I do wear leggings in winter with tunic dresses and I don’t own a pair of jeans.i feed my animals in a dress with polka dotted rubber boots ,which my hubby thinks is adorable lol. We all want to be pretty and we are even more when attired modestly jmo.

GA/FL

Amen!

Deplorable Patriot

AGREED. I have leggings for every day of the week. I have no jeans, but do have a few pairs of capris for the summer, essentially for parties where I know my feet aren’t going to hit the floor.

rayzorbak

3 things that don’t lie:
1. Drunks
2. Babies
3. Yoga Pants

Deplorable Patriot

Depending on the age…mini-skirts.

rayzorbak

ok….. 4 things

Deplorable Patriot

Honestly, I went to a party over the summer, and a choir friend was wearing a sleeveless shift dress that hit her above the knee…. No one with 65+ legs should wear anything that short.

rayzorbak

IDK….. I’ve seen some pretty good looking 65 yr olds….
oh…. the legs (never noticed) 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Yeah, at a certain point with all the broken blood vessels revealing the legs is just not attractive. I’m lucky to this point. My mom and some of my friends not so much.

rayzorbak

They have lasers now for those broken vessels.

Deplorable Patriot

I know, but some of us aren’t going to do that. My friend and her husband spent a fortune on a 15 year old dog who ended up being sent over the rainbow bridge anyway. Voluntary laser surgery for a cosmetic issue would not be something she’d do.

rayzorbak

ok…. just sayin…
if it is a self confidence issue……
There are “procedures” 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, there are. Not going that direction if I can help it. As it is, my “bosom” buddies have given me the names of their plastic surgeons thinking…well, I don’t know what the heck they were thinking.

Gail Combs

Actually my almost 70 year old legs look a LOT better that some of the young women’s legs I have seen. Of course my ankles are still trim and my muscles still hard from all the walking I do. (No wrinkled skin either.)
The rest of the bod…. ERRRRrrrr, anyone have a burlap sack?

Deplorable Patriot

Good skin tone should NEVER be discounted. I strive to walk for an hour a day. It does help.

Deplorable Patriot

Wait, I meant good muscle tone under the good skin tone.

kalbokalbs

“…and men being, well, men.”
Uh, hmmm, well, OK, dang it, alright, OH YEA…, mini skirts, women’s legs, women in general…visual delights. Daily count my blessings for the gift of vision AND women. SORRY. No, no, really, I am not sorry;-)
Possibly a healthy heathen male of sorts;-)
OR, simply a guy, admitting to being a guy.
By the way, really, really like the opening pic…with skirts, legs… 😉 😉 😉
OK, ready for incoming arrows…;-)

Deplorable Patriot

“mini skirts, women’s legs, women in general…visual delights. Daily count my blessings for the gift of vision AND women. SORRY. No, no, really, I am not sorry”
I’ve heard it enough – even from sincere Catholic guys who are looking for a modern version of the Virgin Mary to wed – to know it’s true. I just had to wait for one of you guys to say it.

rayzorbak

I’ll hold the shield for ya 🙂
(Top pic is nice)

Deplorable Patriot

It was from an article about upskirt video in Texas, actually.

kalbokalbs

Well, upskirt is beyond disgusting.

Plain Jane

Really interesting thread DP. The psychology of fashion, from the bustle to the now leggings that show even butt cracks for little girls is …. I don’t know the word for it.
I figured the reason for the short skirts was to get more cuts out of the same yardage to reap more dollars. I had to buy about 7 T-shirt dresses this past spring. Really nice dresses, great price, but I would look much better in them if they were 5 inches longer.
I think natural body length proportions, the proportions created by God, 2/5 to the waist, 3/5 waist down. Most anything outside of that seems incongruent. Mini skirts cuts the body into 3 sections, or worse, it gives the top proportion big predominance over the center space taken by the mini. The dress hem that is longer than the top puts the garment’s look into best ratio.

Deplorable Patriot

Historically, the skirts go shorter when we are at war. Why is usually put forth as conserving cloth. At this point, I don’t believe that.
As for body proportion, it’s all about balancing out what is on top. I’m 4’11”-5’0″, BUSTY, and need A-lines with a fake cleavage to look balanced. I’ve been able to play with that, and minis are just OUT.

rayzorbak

Damn….. you caught me!
No wonder I couldn’t tell you what color your shoes were 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Typical man…..

rayzorbak

At least you know that I’m not Gay 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

None of the men on this site are gay. Believe me, classical musician that I am. I can spot the species from miles away.

zorrorides

DePat, this site of Der Voolfs does seem masculine and hetero, when you notice it, but we have several hundred percent more than our share of strong women commenters.
… And I imagine each one of you is more beautiful than the commenter before…
Love, Z

Deplorable Patriot

If we’re all so anonymous….

Deplorable Patriot

By the same token, Wolf is not running a dating site, if you know what I mean.

Plain Jane

Fine tuned gaydar…LOLOL

Plain Jane

I have varicose veina and am old enough to be a great granny. Do you think I want to show leg? LOL
I’m 5’4” since I shrunk, (stenosis) a size L (14-16) and unless I make my dresses, I either show leg or veins. I wear hose in cool weather and suntan in the warm weather. Hee, hee.

Gail Combs

I have always thought fashion designers are gay men designing clothes for young teen boys and then forcing it on full grown women.
I would LOVE to find a blouse that actually is NOT to tight in the arms (I lift 50# feed sacks) and doesn’t stretch tight across my chest. Generally I give up and wear men’s cowboy shirts.

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll tell you what, for concert black, I find jewel necked t-shirts with long sleeves. I go through at least one a year. It’s far more comfortable than trying to find blouses.

Gail Combs

I use long and short sleeved Ts around the farm. The cowboy shirts are ‘advertising’ for us so I wear them away from the house.
I am thinking of using my old jeans to make skirts patterned after a sq. dance skirt I really like.
It is cut something like this skirt without the frills:comment image

Deplorable Patriot

Oh. please do. Full skirts are the best!

Gail Combs

I have already done the pattern as a driving apron for carriage driving out of a deep green and deep cranberry crushed velveteen. It really came out looking quite nice. (The colors matched my carriage and the pads under the harness on my horses.)
I am a bit ornery and if I can find what I want I will make it.

Plain Jane

That is clever.

rayzorbak
Deplorable Patriot

I like the Duluth Trading Company. The camis they produce…yeah, you don’t need the details.

rayzorbak

Just looked like “working” women’s type of tops.
At least in the commercial 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I have always thought fashion designers are gay men designing clothes for young teen boys and then forcing it on full grown women.

Indeed.
Fashion models…I suppose I’d date one if I had no alternative.

Deplorable Patriot

Steve, darling, you will always have alternatives. Even with the lizards you keep.

Plain Jane

That is a problem I had when I was younger. At one time a DD and arms usually accompany that.

Deplorable Patriot

DD…i wish I still had only a DD problem.
Then I went paleo.

Plain Jane

That was pretty rough as a young lady back then. Daughter dearest has that- plus, and she’s a natural blond also. She had to put many idiots in their place. She even contemplated a redux. Has to buy upsize or she actually looks cheap and phony. She came by it because of Grandmas and great-grandmas on both sides of the family.

tom f

Thanks for this.
…………”and compared to leftist heroines like the vampiress Fiona Hill.”
Snort
Gonna pass this along to a few female friends for feedback.

wheatietoo

The Fashion Industry is itself a tyrannical industry.
It tries to dictate to us What we should wear.
It imposes ‘seasons’ to the longevity of it’s fashion trends…thereby forcing an expiration date on the clothing that has nothing to do with whether the clothing is worn out.
The concept of ‘fashion’ started out as something that only royalty and the idle rich could afford to follow and adhere to.
Working class people could not afford to discard perfectly good clothing just because it might be “out of fashion”.
With the advent of sweat shops and clothing factories, fashion entered an age of being mass produced.
The fashion overlords loved the fact that they could dictate to the masses what they should be wearing…because it kept the factories in business, cranking out the latest new trends.
Clothing could be made even cheaper and cheaper…because it only had to last for a season or two, until the next trend came out.
So I reject the whole idea of ‘fashion’ because it is an artificial construct, imposed on us by people who look down on us.
I like clothing that is well-made and will hold together until the fabric becomes threadbare.
It takes some searching, but there are brands out there who make such clothing.

Deplorable Patriot

“With the advent of sweat shops and clothing factories, fashion entered an age of being mass produced.”
We’ve gotten spoiled on that front.

singingsoul1

I go by style and add new cloth like blouse where the print is nor a scarf or what ever. I update by clothe by singular pieces. A new top to older pants or skirt or new jacket for a dress or new shoes and therefore I always look in style and up to date but not bound by fashion.
I have tops that are 25 years old and they are back in style. I do buy expensive since I do not throw my clothe easily away and also keep it nice by not overdrawing in the drier or take some things to the cleaner.
I find freedom in this and get many compliments and I do not like frilly clothe or lots of prints. I also do not like baby blue or pink. I do not like dowdy either. I like to spruce my clothe up with my jewelry and scarves. I must at least have 50-60 scarves they dress up any black dress or white blouse and black skirt or pants.

singingsoul1

Correction: over drying clothe. The dryer is the enemy of fabric. .

Gail Combs

” The dryer is the enemy of fabric. ”
AMEN to that, I always try to have my clothes left a bit damp and then hang them to finish drying. For anything with ‘stretch’ I try to never use the dryer except to ‘air fluff’

Deplorable Patriot

I have lines and drying racks. It might be old fashioned and more work, but clothes last longer.

singingsoul1

The dryer breaks down the fibers.
Also the washer with an agitator. I needed a new washer and opted for a drum and am vey pleased.
I also hang things damp up and somethings do not go into the dryer at all.
Funny thing my parents came to visit and my father used to do the wash for my parents. First he put everything on hot but never used a dryer before. At my house he used the dryer set it on hot because one did not argue with him. He shrunk all their clothe except underwear 🙂 At the time their clothe was not made for dryer so t-shirts my mothers stuff all shrunk. I am still laughing at it.
I tased it for them again and stretched things while wet and hung it up to dry.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very astute. We men, of course, don’t want to admit that this is problematic, but we really have to, if we’re going to be honest about how cultural Marxism is operating, and keep it in check.
Here is something to chew on. RIGHT NOW, the place where I find the absolute shortest micro-minis and tightest clothing being worn is……. DRUMROLL….. churches, synagogues, and other places of worship – and that goes twice as strongly for special functions as opposed to regular services.
Services are Broadway. Weddings are Vegas.
This is even true in “modest” sects, denominations, and other (non-Judaeo-Christian) religions. Even in Islam, people try to play peek-a-boo around the edges. Oh, there’s rules, and all the smart girls are breaking them.
I am serious. Dress is more modest in the MALLS than in the churches, thanks to Muslims.
What is interesting is WHO IS WEARING the teeny minis. It’s all the women who are “in the market” and seriously looking for a man. Some are a bit older – divorcees and widows – but most are quite young – high school and college age. All the girls who are looking for a boyfriend.
This results in the odd contradiction that some of the women who are “showing off the goods” are the absolute most innocent of the bunch. But the pickin’s are slim on moral and religious men, and the competition seems to be fierce. Apparently it works to stir up attention. And CHURCHES are where the fish are at.
I had an interesting conversation with a father of a gal who was in this camp – she is utterly innocent, highly biblical and religious, and yet dresses like a nearly naked nymph. We had a bit of a “code-talk” about things, and I think we both agreed that it is nearly impossible to fight – yet there is a little shopping list that works like crazy to keep such kids safe:
– keep them in the company of other kids like them
– keep darker cultural influences away (cut the cable)
– keep the drug crowd and sex-before-marriage crowd away
– keep them active in the religious community
– martial arts training
Especially the latter. Any woman who wears a mini well and isn’t planning on “sharing liberally” needs martial arts training, IMO.

rayzorbak

Nail……. Meet HAMMER!
Sex sells…..
Shooting fish in a barrel (and women KNOW it)

Deplorable Patriot

“Here is something to chew on. RIGHT NOW, the place where I find the absolute shortest micro-minis and tightest clothing being worn is……. DRUMROLL….. churches, synagogues, and other places of worship – and that goes twice as strongly for special functions as opposed to regular services.”
Been to a Catholic wedding lately? At least at the Cathedral here, the rule is skirts to the knees at least and shoulders have to be covered.
I’ve said for a while, when the Lord blesses me with a husband, +, I’m putting both sisters in law in the wedding party so I can dress them. Neither has a clue.

singingsoul1

I never dressed like that but maybe it is an American thing?
If a girl in my time dressed anyway sleazy or to tight pants or skirt or to short she would be seen as a one night stand. Maybe times have changed?
One begins early teaching kids how to dress. I never took my kids just in bathing suit out in summertime. My daughter always had to change and the boys wear a shirt. This carried into adulthood without me having to say much.
Age appropriate dressing is always good.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, times have definitely changed, IMO. The various correlations of clothing and character are simply not the same now, as they were in my younger days.

Gail Combs

Sorry Wolfie,
I still think if you dress like a slut ‘you are asking for it’
If you do not want ‘attention’ (you are married or in a strange location) –Then DRESS MODESTLY!
That rule still stands. What you are seeing now is nice girls being hoodwinked into thinking it does not matter if you dress like a slut by the media, and their parents & schools are not countering the message.
Don’t forget the Elite are intentionally GROOMING young kids and these ‘fashions’ are part of the whole.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – they are LITERALLY ASKING FOR IT.
They are basically “trolling the good boys” and counting on them not getting bad boy on them. it’s a dangerous game, frankly.

Gail Combs

Yes it is.
I had that discussion a long time ago with an army sargeant on an army base. He was running the woodworking shop and his ‘helper’ was a lady addicted to short-shorts and tight tees. She was ALWAYS complaining to him about the guys getting ‘fresh’
I spent quite a bit of time there and made several pieces of furniture. I never once had a problem even though several of the guys helped me. They were always respectful.
You do not have to dress that way to get dates either. I never had a problem in that area and turned more than one proposal down.

Deplorable Patriot

Even this morning…I was fresh from the salon, and the gentlemen at the bank were most gracious. The security gentleman opened the door, and a cop let me go ahead of him in line. I was wearing a skirt and earrings. Those guys…so cool.

jamcooker

Nobody sits girls down and has a realistic talk about male libido which is not the same thing as the birds and the bees. When my hubby was teaching, that was something he made sure to include, and the girls paid attention with results.

singingsoul1

So true I am also shocked at time how parts dress their 12 old child with make up heels that is so wrong on many levels.
My granddaughter is 16 she does not care about heels or make up. She is an outdoor type of girl she loves hiking and horseback riding. She is not into all the fashion stuff and her mind is on studying.

Gail Combs

Singingsoul,
I hate seeing mothers push their little girls into grown-up attire. Make-up and heels should be for 16 years old and up or for play only.
Women push their girls at 12 and then are shocked when they are pregnant at 14.

singingsoul1

So true

wheatietoo

Well, yeah…remember the ‘Slut Walks’?
The radical feminazis declared that women should be able to dress “as slutty as you wanna be”.
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110506-slutwalk-hmed-330a.grid-8×2.jpgcomment image
.
Haven’t seen any slut walks lately though…
Is it because the Leftists are embracing the Islamists?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Whatever their MASTERS tell them to do!

scott467

“Here is something to chew on. RIGHT NOW, the place where I find the absolute shortest micro-minis and tightest clothing being worn is……. DRUMROLL….. churches, synagogues, and other places of worship – and that goes twice as strongly for special functions as opposed to regular services.”
___________
I wonder how they get away with it?
Someone is in charge, and whoever that is, he or they are allowing it, or it wouldn’t happen.
Our preacher must do several sermons on modesty every year, especially when the weather gets warmer.
I have never seen anything even close to a mini-skirt at church.
I’m not even sure what would happen if a woman wore a mini-skirt to church, because I’ve never seen it. I suppose one of the elders would simply ask them to leave and come back wearing something appropriate for worship. If the elders could beat the other women to it.
They wouldn’t be allowed to stay, that’s for sure. And the preacher would almost certainly change his scheduled sermon to the subject of immodest dress, and why it is just as sinful for women to entice men to lust as it is for men to lust, not to mention that doing so in the Lord’s church, during WORSHIP services, is off-the-charts disrespectful to one’s brothers and sisters in Christ, and worst of all, to the Lord, and to the whole point and purpose for coming together on the first day of each week.
I don’t believe any woman would dare to even try it. I haven’t seen it, anyway.
And due to normal (and healthy) constraints of social pressure, if nobody else is doing it, it’s certainly less likely for individual woman to go rogue.
.
“Services are Broadway. Weddings are Vegas.”
___________
I don’t know what to say about weddings, except that Christians don’t stop being Christians outside the church building.
Services are definitely not supposed to be Broadway.
It’s not entertainment hour, it’s not attendee’s choice of ‘contemporary or traditional’, it’s not about trends or fads or what’s popular at other places of worship.
It’s about doing things according to God’s Word, in an orderly and respectful manner, in hope that our worship would be pleasing to the Lord.
After all, that’s what we’re supposed to be there for.
If it was just a social hour or a place to go be like the world, there are a lot of other things I would do instead of going to church.
.
“This is even true in “modest” sects, denominations, and other (non-Judaeo-Christian) religions.
__________
I don’t doubt you. That’s one of the things we don’t see, is what other churches’ worship services are like. I would guess that ours are boring compared to some, maybe compared to many. If people are there to be entertained, then they are there for the wrong reason.
.
“Even in Islam, people try to play peek-a-boo around the edges.”
__________
islam is a murder cult. Every conversation about islam should begin and end with that truth.
.
“Oh, there’s rules, and all the smart girls are breaking them.”
_________
Not very.
Smart, that is.
But then if they were smart, they would be able to think their way out of islam in about two seconds. It’s not rocket science. If the founder of your religion was a mass-murdering pedophile, and members of your religion are raping and murdering people all over the world after the example of the founder of the cult — then as Jeff Foxworthy might say, “Here’s your sign.”
It’s incredible…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I really think it creeps in from the popular culture. Public schools are absolutely dangerous in that respect. I think it’s a peer effect. Parents know that their kids’ “good” friends are wearing something, and they let their guard down when their own want to wear the same.
Usually it’s the dress for events where there is dancing that is the worst.
But I am not kidding. These girls are wearing them as short as Vegas call-girls, which, if you’ve ever seen them (usually in or moving through the lobbies in the casinos), is VERY short. In a few cases, I’ve seen SHORTER, and gotten JAW DROP.
And of course this whole uber-sexualization of teens just creates the Epstein world. It’s not a good thing. NOT. AT. ALL.
Public schools are hellholes of Marxist subversion. Period.

scott467

“Parents know that their kids’ “good” friends are wearing something, and they let their guard down when their own want to wear the same.”
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My parents really couldn’t have cared less what the other kids were doing, in fact, it almost seemed like they took some kind of perverse pleasure in preventing us from doing what the other kids were doing, simply because other kids were doing it. 😁
Which backfired completely, leading to rebellion on all fronts, because the highest authority in our house were fallible human beings, and by our teenage years, we were as aware of their failings as they were of ours.
This is why a higher Authority (God) can be so effective, so long as the parents are equally subject to that same Authority (not hypocritical), as a model of behavior to the children.
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“Usually it’s the dress for events where there is dancing that is the worst.”
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No doubt. I went to dances in high school, but I wasn’t a Christian then. For the young people at the church where I am a member, it’s not a matter of dressing appropriately for dances, because there is no appropriate reason to attend a dance in the first place.
So they don’t go to dances.
That may sound draconian at first (it kind of did to me, when I first heard about it), but the preacher gives very effective sermons on all the temptations to sin that arise when young people with hormones racing through their bodies are moving together, in the dark, to music. And if dances today are anything like they were when I was in high school, alcohol (or worse) is involved too.
And I found that I couldn’t argue a single point the preacher was making. He was right. All kinds of bad things can happen, there’s plenty of downside, but what’s the upside?
It’s sort of like asking the same question about going to a bar (which I was very good at, at one point). There are lots of bad things that can happen — get drunk, get in a fight, drive home drunk and kill someone, get arrested, get dead, go home with a woman (which doesn’t seem bad to someone who isn’t a Christian, but fornication is sin). All of those bad things can happen, and those are just the first few that immediately came to mind, not an exhaustive list. And what are the good things that can happen from going to a bar?
It’s almost identical to kids going to dances in that regard.
Except from videos I’ve seen on the interwebs, the high school dances today don’t look like they did in the 1980s, they look like Girls Gone Wild at Spring Break.
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“But I am not kidding. These girls are wearing them as short as Vegas call-girls, which, if you’ve ever seen them (usually in or moving through the lobbies in the casinos), is VERY short. In a few cases, I’ve seen SHORTER, and gotten JAW DROP.”
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It’s not called Sin City for nuthin’ 😉
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“And of course this whole uber-sexualization of teens just creates the Epstein world. It’s not a good thing. NOT. AT. ALL.”
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Exactly….
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“Public schools are hellholes of Marxist subversion. Period.”
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Yes, even the good ones in small wealthy communities, that rank highest in their state.

Gail Combs

Public schools should have dress codes PERIOD!
Ours did. Skirts or dresses no pants on girls. Skirts to the floor. No sandals. No tee shirts. Heck I and a group of friends got taken to the principal’s office for wearing a blazer with dad’s tie!

scott467

Hi Wolf, I had a reply to your post this morning, and I thought I saw it show up but now I’m not sure, maybe it went straight to the bin?
Is it even possible for a reply to post, and THEN go into the bin?

jamcooker

Since people come in all sizes and shapes, no one style or fabric choices are going to be right for everyone. Tall people can wear items that don’t look good on short people and vice – versa. Larger people are more able to wear large print items that very thin or small people have difficulty wearing; and you can say the same about small print fabric. Of course that’s not always true either.
I think DP’s point is wear appropriate clothing for age and venue. Macron’s wife is a good example of someone who chooses to wear clothing that looks inappropriate for her age. let alone the venue, although the last time I remember seeing her in skirts that were a little longer, just a bit above the knee rather than mini – skirt length.

ozzytrumpster

What’s appropriate for a female pedophile? The one who married the schoolboy and is old enough to be his mummy and dresses her stick thin body like a mile Cyrus type clone?

rayzorbak

My fashion tip:
When I look in my closet…..
Yep… that’s clean.
It will work 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Typical man…..

rayzorbak

Typical “Young” man maybe……..

Deplorable Patriot

Are you calling me a cougar? ‘Cause seriously, I’ve been 29-30 for quite a while now. 😉

rayzorbak

LOL…… My grandma died a 16……. many, many 16th Birthdays.

Deplorable Patriot

16…do I remember that one?
My grandmothers were 88 and 87. Both remarkable women in their own rights. Granny was amazingly talented artistically. Grandma was…Grandma to everybody. She was special, and developed every talent God gave her.

rayzorbak

Not sure how old mine REALLY was…..
But she was a singer too.

scott467

Man, is that awful. The acting appears to be designed for 5 year olds. And what’s the goof in the red shirt doing, reading a cue card off the side of Roseanne’s sister’s chair?
Her reverse psychology to push these two non-actors back into what can only be a dysfunctional relationship took about 0.00156 seconds to see through, and then we have to sit in torture while soy-stalk boy dutifully connects all the obvious dots while pretending not to see them.
I couldn’t make it past the 1:09 mark.
I haven’t watched a regular TV show (besides Walking Dead, Lost and House, M.D.) in at least 10 years.
If this is what it has turned into, I won’t be going back 😁

Deplorable Patriot

Sheldon’s mother was BRILLIANT. Her point was made by the Leonard character. Tell a man not to do something, and that’s all he wants to do. It’s true.

scott467

“Tell a man not to do something, and that’s all he wants to do. It’s true.”
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So tell him not to get up early, tell him not to go to work, tell him not to pay the bills and not to do any of the items on the ‘Honey Do’ list, and you’ll be all set 😁
Why not tell the boys to NOT let your dog out in the front yard?
If your reverse psychology theory is correct, they will do exactly what you told them NOT to do, they will let your dog out in the front yard — which is where you wanted them to let the dog out in the first place 😁
And that will keep the dog away from whatever he is allergic to in the back yard 👍

Deplorable Patriot

A couple I know who are BIG in the organ world…a console was moved and wasn’t behaving correctly, and it had something to do with the plug. K was on the bench telling J all about it, and she said, “But don’t touch it.” Well, he touched it, and right in the middle of the Gloria on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, the thing went nuts. 100+ rank pipe organ and it sounded like thunder. K unplugged it just to get it to stop.
Sorry. It’s true.

ozzytrumpster

You forgot do I need to iron it?

rayzorbak

Iron it?
Bwahahahaha!

Deplorable Patriot

That’s what dry cleaners are for, right?

rayzorbak

If you say so…..
Are “Dry” “cleaners”…
kind if like “clean fill dirt”?

Deplorable Patriot

No….

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In fairness The Producers video is “squashed” in the horizontal direction to fit widescreen onto a 4:3 NTSC TV screen; that woman in yellow ends up looking much skinnier than she actually is (and much too skinny for my tastes, which cover a fairly wide range of builds).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

…However, I wouldn’t have put it past them to consider the unrealistic slenderness a feature, not a bug…so your point remains intact.

Deplorable Patriot

Thank you for that. 😘

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We’ve had this conversation before; I don’t LIKE skinny. Give me voluptuous any day.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes… I know. Some day, I’ll tell you my actual measurements, 😉 I ain’t no size 2.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You’ve alluded to several key parameters at various times in the past. 🙂
I can’t stand the “glamorous” fashion stick figures (usually with short hair too). Gay men, literally, pick them out, guess what’s attractive to gay men? Anything but a woman’s figure.

Deplorable Patriot

Mmmm…they are not sexually attracted to a woman, but a number that I’ve known in hair dressing, anyway, have a thing for feminine hair. I went with a friend a number of years ago to buy her first wedding dress, and I tried one on. This guy I sang with looked at the picture and said to me, with your hair down and curled, yeah, that would be gorgeous.
Appreciation for beauty is not the same as sexually attracted.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ll believe you on the female hair. I just remembered the really short cuts on so many of those boyish fashion models and drew the wrong conclusion.

Gail Combs

Steve,
Nature tells you that a voluptuous rubenesque figure is preferable because that body type is optimal for producing and keeping babies alive even if the food supply is skimpy.
As Gramma said to Dad, But she’s so small, find a nice strapping girl. Unfortunately Gramma was correct. Mom had numerous miscarriages.

Deplorable Patriot

My great grandmother on the Irish side was my build, etc., and had seven children. My great-great grandmother on the Spanish side was tall, a large woman, and had 18. 13 lived. My great-grandmother on that side ( th oldest) had seven, six lived into adulthood.
It’s all genetics and diet.

Gail Combs

Mom was a little over 5ft, all legs and literally too short waisted to carry a child full term.

Deplorable Patriot

I love it. A man trying to justify objectification. 😉
Steve. She’s a TOY! 🙄🥱😴

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I didn’t listen (sound off). I just noticed she was ridiculously skinny, and stopped playback.

Deplorable Patriot

Sound off? What? Even my brothers as 11 year olds listened to the music.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Never saw the movie. Seriously.

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, I’m sorry. It’s REALLY funny.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

…Oh, and (speaking of toys) I worked with a woman once who had a coffee mug with “Boys will be toys” on it.

Deplorable Patriot

Mutton dressed as lamb?

Harry Lime

We now live in an age where men and boys are starting to wear mini skirts (and worse)…
I try to remain in my home as much as possible.

Deplorable Patriot

Hang on a minute. Kilts are DA BOMB. They are not minism but men in kilts…yeah, it was one in the morning. we were at iHOP, and…..

Harry Lime

Ha ha…kilts get a pass…those guys ate meat regularly and didn’t wear high heels.

Gail Combs

But they did wear a knife called a sgian-dubh

Harry Lime

Yeah…I can’t pronounce that…but either way you won’t catch me mocking a guy in a kilt.comment image

grandmaintexas

Having gone back to school, I am seeing a huge backlash to the over-sexualization of women.
I’m in classes with the late teen and just 20 crowd. Believe me, these ladies are in full revolt. In four months I’ve seen one glimpse of cleavage and one gal dressed in Daisy Dukes.
If anything, the gals are downplaying their sexuality. Little to no makeup, lots of shapeless sweats, and so on.
It could be my geographic location but I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the young people.
They’ve been living with the consequences of our screwed up culture their whole lives. They are much more conservative.
There’s a few old timers, and I have less in common with them than the young people.
Also noticed that this age group really yearns for solid relationships. They’ve had enough of cultural Marxism. Hope I’m not in a time warp, but that this plays out in a wider sphere.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This makes sense, actually. It means that SCHOOL is not being seen as a venue to “advertise” – it means they’re SERIOUS about learning – it means socialization is done ELSEWHERE. Very interesting.

grandmaintexas

One other thing I noticed is that there is a lot of non-sexual camaraderie among the students. They seem to genuinely like and respect each other regardless of sex.
This is way different than 30 or 40 years ago. It was all about the girl/boy thing back then.
I do hear them bantering about sex, but not with each other. I really wonder if some of the social conditioning is having an unintended positive effect. In the old, old days people were taught to respect one another, and there wasn’t such an expectation of instant sexual relations.
Now, kids have seen the repercussions of casual sex with the generation of their parents and even grandparents. They really do seem to be wiser.
But I am in a microcosm in a conservative area, so this might be a one off. But then again, there’s lots of crazy hair colors and tons of tatts.
I’m confused. 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, I hear you!!! 😀

Deplorable Patriot

Part of the conservatism, IMO, is who their parents are. The liberals didn’t reproduce all that much. Conservatives did. It’s still that way.

grandmaintexas

Great point. I have one liberal offspring…only 1 child.
I have 2 conservative kids…one is working on her fourth, the other a 3rd. 😁
The libs do recruit, but demographics win in the end.

itswoot

I once saw a woman wearing a muumuu
And I’ve seen one dancing in a tutu
But it struck me as being silly
When I saw a gal sitting at Piccadilly
While wearing both and eating fufu

Alison

I’ve got nothing to add that hasn’t been said, but the EXTREME sexualization of females through “fashion” is disgusting and absolutely sheep-like Cultural Marxism. Great topic, DPat 👏👏👏

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

As the primary editor, I’m just happy I didn’t have to read
CULTURAL MARXISM AND THE TRANNY OF THE MINI-SKIRT
The picture checks out at 100% in that regard as well. WHEW!!!

zorrorides

Spelling! Wolfs, spelling is wery important for editors.
heheheh

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, come on. You trust us, right??????

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One can never be certain of the odd chance that a typo or a photoshopo might sneak past even the most diligent author! 😉
And while I won’t claim that ALL MEN can discern the actual gender of a ladyboy in the lineup merely from the legs….. COUGH, COUGH, COUGH…. there are some who CAN BE TRUSTED for the job! 😎

GA/FL

I really needed a laugh after our last remembrance of how ugly a certain blog was about our dear Princely Handsome Cowboy.

patfrederick

I’m in your boat DePat…short and busty…grew to this height at 9, and grew out this far at 9 as well. I learned how to sew that same year. I am not a slave to fashion…I am a slave to my proportions. Certain things will never look good on me…mini skirts included. and after breaking my ankle, the ortho surgeon said no more heels…so I dress for my own comfort–I can wear ass hugging jeans and look good. Pair them with the right sweater and you forget I’m a Keebler Elf…
thanks for this article! I like the connections your mind makes!

Deplorable Patriot

I quit growing vertically at 12. The rest…not going there.

Gail Combs

For me, I reached full height at 10… in one year I grew almost a foot. OUCH!

Jonathan Caswell

You make a very good point with this! May I have the honor of reblogging this and more of your posts—with full credit and a link back to your blogging?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Feel free to reblog any content from here with credit and a link – both very much appreciated!

Jonathan Caswell

OKAY! THANK YOU!

Jonathan Caswell

Reblogged this on By the Mighty Mumford and commented:
YOWZA—-THIS POST LAYS IT ON THE LINE!