Food for thought……….
We’re all still reeling from the machete Hanukkah attack in Monsey, NY, and the shooting attack at White Settlement, TX. Fortunately, most of us will never understand why it’s a problem for Americans to worship as they choose. Politicians will argue about who is to blame and “hate groups” for at least one slow news cycle in a selfish attempt to grab press or fundraise. Yet once again, the family reports the perp in New York had a long history of mental illness, was not raised to hate particular groups/skin colors/religions nor was he a member of any hate group……. he was just mentally ill and had been hospitalized before for such cause on several occasions.
Most of us can think of a particular person in our lives for whom we have disdain, but we don’t attack them with machetes or shoot them. We are mentally sound and can reason that violence is not the answer. It’s the mental illness which pushes people over the edge. If we want to solve a problem like the criminally insane, we need to properly identify the problem, the cause of the problem, and possible solutions for safety of the population writ large, but that’s not what is happening today.
Recognizing the problem and associated costs of unchecked mental illness would make sense, be cost effective, safer for society. Why would our elected leaders ever do something so easy and fiscally prudent?
Deflection of the problem of mental illness for personal or political gain only helps politicians. It’s truly detestable to use the death of constituents to further political power. When you watch the news today, see it for what it is, avoiding one problem while furthering the narrative of another “alleged problem”.
The media is worse and far more corrosive to regular Americans. Mental illness is not what the pundits want to talk about, right? It’s not the preferred public pitch. The narrative is a “rise in hate groups”, which justifies paranoia of one color/religion/sexual persuasion of America to fear other groups….. as in…. “those white people should fear machete-wielding black men”, and/or all guns, and whatever happens, it’s the fault of the white person. Funny, I recall Mr. Larry (who happens to be black) and I (the white female) both wielding machetes, cutting down a privet hedge, when we took a break for a cold beer. Would the media prefer Mr. Larry and I not work together, not know each other, not worship together, eat at the same table together, listen to the same music, laugh/dance/sing together…….. or vote similarly? Seems like it……
The media push for a “rise in anti-Semitism” is an easy narrative given what has happened in New York over the last few weeks, but are we leaping to a convenient conclusion about disparate incidents? Punctuated by the drama and severity of the attack in Monsey? Is it possible the media doesn’t care about the real cause of Monsey, other than for how the attack helps the media’s narrative? After all, a rise in white nationalism (even though the perp is black) is a great way to blame President Trump and all those uneducated white Americans who voted for him. Could it be the media jumped on the story in Monsey, as opposed to the story in White Settlement, as a golden opportunity in a further attempt to divide Americans…… because it is good for business?
And then, something strange happened. From out of left field, I saw a kernel of hope in the midst of the melee of media distraction…….
In the never ending quest to find common ground with the left, we might have a sign from above. Follow me for a second, it might work…… maybe….. It’s a stretch, I concede, but it might be an opening.
Last summer, Pete Buteigeg pitched the idea that the Chinese prison camps are horrible, and “the Trump Admin stays silent”. Back in July of 2019, Pete called for sanctions against China. No kidding. What kind of sanctions, Pete? Given the entangled economies of the USA and China, what kind of fallout could we expect for immediate sanctions if we follow your idea, Pete? Gee whiz, we remember the NY and DC press with dire warnings of economic collapse when President Trump announced a few tariffs on China. Outright sanctions would cause a meltdown on Wall Street, but it might be okay……. cuz Pete is a Dem, right?
BUT Pete said this in July of 2019…… watch what happened.
Strangely, just yesterday, Judd Apatow retweeted the Butteieg tweet (from July) about the Uighurs and added this separate tweet……
So, we have a prominent Jewish guy, in Hollywood, calling for us to pay attention, shun China, for their treatment of the Uighurs…… and why aren’t we talking about it more?
Apatow is right!
This is good.
Remember, we all said, “Never Again” after the Holocaust.
Why does China get a pass? As long as the media is deflecting from mental illness, why not USE THE DEFLECTION of the media? In this way, ALL Americans have a common enemy in China’s CCP……. instead of fighting with each other.
China’s problems with fentanyl, IP theft, truly horrific environmental policy, currency manipulation, military buildup, treatment of Hong Kongers, and double dealing in the third world only adds further fuel to the fire.
When the media deflects from the real cause of mental illness for homegrown attacks, the discussion is dead for the moment, saved for another day. Yet, we need to be able to leapfrog the media, and use their momentum to accomplish another goal.
Is it possible the left is coming around to be AGAINST China?
We all know how strongly Hollywood is influenced by China….. interesting to speculate where the ramifications of such an action could lead.
Let’s keep in mind, Judd Apatow is a Hollywood type (he did The Hangover movies) with millions of followers on his Twit feed.
He’s a hard leftist who can be offensive and irrational at times. Okay fine, we can all be irrational at times. Let’s not pick that fight right now.
For instance, Apatow thinks that because Mick Mulvaney stepped out of the Oval Office when Giuliani was there, to preserve President’s confidence with personal lawyer, that means the President and Giuliani were conducting illegal Ukraine policy.
SMH.
Can we presume the left thinks the President is not allowed to defend himself in a public forum, not allowed to appeal an illegitimate subpoena for clearly granted Exec Privilege, and NOW not allowed to have an attorney either?
Anyway….
Nonetheless, Apatow’s salvo against the CCP is a glimpse, a crack in the wall so to speak. If Apatow is an average Hollywood leftist, and he cares about this issue, then others may as well. It’s a chance for some modicum of unity.
This MIGHT be a place where we can all agree, on the Uighurs, to unite against China and further erode the CCP public image. Good heavens, the NYTimes claims the CCP has “separated over a half million children from their parents”. It might be a chance to use the press to accomplish a worthwhile goal, to OUT the Chinese Communist Party policy.
It might work.
The goal of those who seek to harm America is to control the greater levers of power in the USA. They use division of Americans by class/color/sex/politics, which makes it easier. Well, if that’s their goal, can we use this issue to bring us together and turn this missive back toward our collective enemy?
After all……..
When we said, “Never Again”, did we mean it?
Or, is it okay for China to keep a million people in prison camps merely because we like cheap Nike t-shirts?
Or, is it okay to imprison a million people for their faith just because they are Muslims? As opposed to Jews and Christians?
No, it’s never okay to keep a million people in prison just because of their faith. What does “Freedom of Religion” really mean to us in 2019?
Our forefathers risked their lives for the idea.
How strange…….. and natural…… would it be for Jews and Christians, left and right, to unite as Americans in defense of Muslims against an oppressive Communist regime?
Imagine the irony, and the shocked faces, when we turned the table on our common enemy.
This makes too much sense for snowflakes, pols and MSM to understand. Great idea. How to break through their sterile minds and implement new thought???
We just need an inroad.
That inroad will be when the Chinese inevitably cheat in a big and horrific way on the “Phase One” part of the trade deal.
OR it will be when we uncover overt Chines assistance to the COUP.
OR it will be when we uncover or DECLASSIFY ChiCom abuse of the mentally ill as MK ACTORS.
(….and that serves both purposes, because it shows direct abuse of the mentally ill for POLITICS….)
OR it will be when Paul Pelosi’s crimes involving China get big in the news cycle.
But more seriously, China uses the Chinacrats and Dimpeachment as a way to pressure Trump during trade negotiations. Revealing any part of that provides opportunity.
I think you have a good point that Dems periodically WAKE THE F UP about stuff – or at least some of them do. I think we will see this increasingly. And THAT provides us with new opportunities.
Another thing that can help is to generally reduce the political yield possible by abuse of the mentally ill.
WHOA – I just saw something.
The following is HUGE. I would never have seen this, were it not for this post.
Notice what California and New York are doing, with the
homelessmentally ill on the street.YES. The socialists in California and New York don’t have a HOMELESS problem. They have a MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT PROBLEM – and that problem is SOCIALISM. Basically, SOCIALISM is so bad – so inefficient – so horrible with managing money – that it eventually has to cut corners just to keep functioning. They have to dump the expensive mental patients out on the street.
That is what we are seeing. Not a “mysterious” homeless problem, which is what THEY have deflected it to. It’s no mystery! The root of the problem is SOCIALIST MISMANAGEMENT OF MONEY, unable to care for the mentally ill, so it just lets them live in public, which is cheaper.
THEN they just leverage the problem as a new “crisis” to justify NEW socialist policies and actions.
How do we deal with THAT? We cannot just accept their “Cloward-Piven hand-off” – that is their GOAL – to federalize THEIR inefficiency and make US pay for it.
How do we get rid of socialist abuse and “dumping” of the mentally ill in New York and California?
FIRST THINGS FIRST, WE HAVE TO BLAME SOCIALISM FOR ABUSE OF THE MENTALLY ILL. Trump doctrine. RESPONSIBILITY.
And come back to it bigly. WHO helps socialism in California and New York? To a large extent, CHYYYNNAA.
Gotta CUT THOSE TENTACLES WITH A MACHETE.
Dr Drew and Scott Adams are pushing this theory.
Homeless problem is NOT a need for more housing and money – at all.
The problem is drug addiction and mental health.
Now, is housing too expensive in these areas, yes.
Is new construction of housing overburdened in these areas with excessive regulation? YES
But throwing federal money for more Section 8 housing will NOT solve the homeless problem.
Exactly. They HIDE the mental health and drug addiction problem as something else.
Socialism is the problem. It’s always on a buying spree of the wrong things, not earning its keep. Who gets the short straw? The mentally ill who don’t want to be restrained. Open the doors and they run out. ACLU helps.
It’s a CON JOB. THE D CON.
Creating new housing for them is Cloward-Piven spending that won’t work, and at the highest levels in CHYYYNNAA, the commies KNOW IT.
Don’t think for a moment that Potus,(a real estate guy) hasn’t thought of the empty asylums. They don’t have to be houses of horror.and, sadly, some people need involuntary commitment.
With psych care the important things to remember. Separate the mad from the bad and house developmentally disabled separately too.
Good vigilant staff. Forced drug withdrawal. Clean up, health checks and treat concurrent conditions. Good , nutritious food with vitamin supplements as necessary. Graduation to halfway houses.
And ffs take children off incompetent parents. Fostering to be brief. If no hope for likely meaningful improvement then adoption. No lingering in foster care for years , shunted place to place
We always blamed Reagan for turning people out of the asylums.
Come to find out, it was several decisions from Warren Court that deemed we could no longer restrict people against their will.
Need more info on that part.
But if the same rulings are on the books, we can’t put people in homes, and clean them up against their will.
We have involuntary commitment here. 2 shrinks have to sign off and it’s reviewed by court.
2 qualifiers:
1 they are a danger to themselves
2 they are a danger to others
In related info we have involuntary medical incarceration when someone is contagious and wil not self segregate or submit to treatment. Mostly used for TB BUT ITS ON THE BOOKS in case of Ebola or any other really nasty contagious disease
That would be great.
I recall trying to commit my mother in late 80’s, and it was hell.
She eventually committed suicide, spent hundreds of thousands in family money, and horrific angst to all family members.
Yet, when someone who is mentally ill is uncooperative, there is no easy solution.
Exactly. BUT. IF YOU TAKE SOMEONES AUTONOMY FROM THEM YOU ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY!
They are entitled to good living conditions, good food, medical care and basic human dignity. Also, to the best of your ability the person/govt incarcerating them is responsible for treatment of their condition .
I know that sounds like socialism but you cannot deprive someone of all decision making and choices without providing for them
We have two categories in psych wards. Lock up and voluntary. Voluntary has lots of sb categories ie anorexics,
lockup is for batshit crazy and staff carry duress alarms. They often have to be separated from each other too.
I thiught one of my psych books suggested it happened under Kennedy.
You’re right Jane.
1963 – President John F. Kennedy signed the Community Mental Health Centers Construction Act. It provided federal funding to create community-based mental health facilities. They would provide prevention, early treatment, and ongoing care. The goal was to build one for every 125,000 to 250,000 people. That many centers would allow patients to remain close to their families and be integrated into society. But it ignored statistics that showed 75 percent of those in hospitals had no families.
Remember it was when JFK EMPTIED the mental hospitals and closed them down that the incarceration rate in the USA sky rocketed.
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In the 1950s we DID NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM!!!
We had ENFORCED Vagrancy laws.
Criminals =====> Prison
Mentally ill ====> mental hospitals
Poor People ==> The ‘Poor Farm’, where they were housed and employed growing their own food and producing crafts.
Elderly ====> Taken care of AT HOME by stay at home Moms.
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🔸The Commies got rid of the Mental Hospitals INSTEAD OF IMPROVING THEM.
🔸The Commies got rid of the ‘Poor Farms’ claiming it was ‘cruel’ to require those housed to ACTUALLY DO WORK.
🔸The Commies BUSED Little Drug pushers into the lucrative middle class neighborhoods.
🔸The Commies got rid of the stay at home Moms via ‘Feminism and RAISED TAXES and REDUCED WAGES.
🔸And now the Commies are working at getting rid of prisons.
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“On October 31, 1963, President John F. Kennedy signed into law the Community Mental Health Act (also known as the Mental Retardation and Community Mental Health Centers Construction Act of 1963), which drastically altered the delivery of mental health services…”
At first Halfway Houses were keeping Mental Health patients medicated and off the streets but as the Fake News removed the spotlight the funding dried up and the mentally ill ended up on the streets. (The article has long since been scrubbed)
And I don’t have my non PC textbook any more that indicated what you just said Gail.
I really wish I had transferred some of that article on half-way houses to my notes. It was very good and went into the problems of trying to get patients to take medication, the cuts in funding and the placement of people who were too ill in half-way houses instead of into full care facilities where they belonged.
I ran across it back before I realized the internet scrubbed good articles.
I got rid of almost all of my texts before I realized the pols were trying to destroy our education system, mental health, etc.
Glad I held on to the Saxon Math books I bought for our youngest and then entrusted them to our oldest for his kids and on and on.
The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. In 1981 President Ronald Reagan and the U.S. Congress repealed most of the law. wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980
Great points. This explains the huge jump in openings for social workers and the like in the mid 1960’s.
Yes. Do you think social media could do it, or will that possible dialogue be shut down immediately?
I’m still in wonderment how Kayne and Candace have been able to obtain success without really being silenced by social media. Wish they could see your writing DNW.
They are both terrific and inspirational.
Candace is really something.
Candace is completely out of my feed. Even retweets.
Twitter is SMART and EVIL.
May I say “$#it ?”
Gonna pray on DNW’s idea to take hold.
Something needs to change.
Someone has to make a move.
Me thinks you have made the first one DNW. You brought the thoughts together.
Wonder if there is a way to contact Mark Stein. He has spoken of the Uighers in China, on and off for a long time now. Just a thought.
Twitter is being given enough rope. Same with fascist book
Sure hope so. They need to be taken to the WoodShed ASAP!
While I love, respect, look up to, and seek to share your positive, life affirming joy and celebration of people, Daughn, in this case I do not share your optimism.
We cannot seem even seem to come together with members of our own side simply because some of us visit and consider Q drops for our take on current events.
For a long time now, I have been heartsick about the lack of outcry from our side against the violence of AntiChristian forces which have targeted and sought to eliminate Christians and Jews across the planet.
President Trump has led a worldwide effort to safeguard Christians and Jews and as a result has been the target of hatred and vilification from not only the perpetrators but from pharisaical Christians and Jews in his own country.
I mention this because I do not believe that China, now to be given even greater global control of the internet by the UN, targets only the members of one religion for imprisonment in camps. I would not want to address the issue without noting the persecution and targeting of other groups, considered as unfriendly to the state as well.
In a related issue, I do not believe that the synagogue shooter was any more mentally ill than other like minded individuals who have targeted the innocent in similar events. In fact, there are internet rumors speaking to other causes of his violence.
I believe that we need to hone in and fight for the right to speak freely and address all causes of antiSemitism and antiChrist behaviors. Instead of crying victim when their side is called out, members of certain PC privileged groups ought to own up and take actions to make the changes necessary to make the world safer—and that not by eliminating the rest of us.
I worry that this will be even harder under the new internet controls.
Sadly, I would not be surprised to see the talking points coming from Deblabio, Cuojo, Buttgag, Fartswell, snd Schitt dutifully echoed in Temples and pulpits across the country blaming the President for the rise of hatred in the country while turning a blind eye to their own lack of prosecution of illegal criminals, to their release of violent illegals back into the community, to the special favors and privilege they give to terrorists affiliated with their favored left leaning religious groups, and to their policies of open borders that allow gang members, members of the cartel, and terrorists or terror affiliated groups free and open access to the country and its citizens.
The truth is what I believe will set us free and bring good people from all walks of life together. This is why, imo, the left is working overtime to suppress it…and us.
Censorship and persecution of all of us, election fraud, and the lies of the media work against all that hold the key to a free and safe environment in this country for each of us and our loved ones as well as the rest of the world.
#1 Deplorable goal and work effort under God’s direction and control: saving humanity.
I think his mental illness is islam. China persecutes Christians and falon gong too.
I’m going to go there and say it. China has correctly identified Islam as a threat to civilisation and humanity. No matter what govt or religion.
Islam and Communism – basically false prophet and antichrist in pattern – are the two dragons wrestling to control humanity.
We can cheer them both from the sidelines
What China is doing to their Muslim population I cannot condone.
Hitler did the same to Jews. Hitler and communist east Germany separated children from parents to intro them to their ideology . This is subtle not open at first. Communism will always use youth and turn them against traditional cultural values.
Pray that POTUS stays strong get the support he needs and that women can once more raise their own children to families values. I know it is a step backwards for women but in reality it is a step forward. Men need to stay with women and heir kids and support them it is a family affair. We split families into little pieces for the flavor of the month.
Merkel is weaponising kids against their parents in Germany. Echo’s of the stasi
There is ZERO reason why Moms can not stay at home and if they wish go back to work during school hours once all the little ones are of school age. (Taking it we have GOOD CLASSICAL SCHOOLS!)
All it takes is THE WILL within corporate American and a change in our school system.
If Schools ran all year it would be better for the children since it would not mentally jerk them around. Also daycare can be WITHIN the corporate setting. 8 Companies With Onsite Childcare Hiring Now
The problem is solvable. It is just the Commies DO NOT WANT IT SOLVED!
Ironically many moms work a second job so they can afford the house in the expensive neighborhood with the “good” (actually, less bad, but don’t tell them that unless you’re ready for an argument) school.
That is why I said TAXES and WAGES.
If we did not have 60% to 80% of our earning taken from us and WASTED on things like BLOATED Gov’t, USAid ==> Money Laundering, ILLEGAL benefits to BUY VOTES…. We could cut our tax rates to 50% or even 40%. Then Moms could stay home!!!
It wasn’t so long ago (early 1970s) that if I, as a wife earned minimum wage while Ex-Husband was a 2nd Lt., we could have saved enough to buy a house OUT RIGHT IN SEVEN YEARS!
What happened? OPEC and energy prices (and taxes) sky rocketing while wages did not.
The other answer is: home school. Then you don’t need to live in the fancy school district, because you are not using the school.
You are of course correct in principle, but it’s easier for someone to implement my solution since he doesn’t have to persuade the rest of the country to shrink the government drastically.
AMEN on TRUTH.
Getting the TRUTH out is the first step. Getting it out QUICKLY is now a duty that too many in government are shirking.
If we can accomplish this, I believe it might awaken good people—for instance those who are simply blinded or brainwashed into an oblivious state of cherished illusions—into making a change.
Those who are okay with the uncovered villainy we would not want to unite with anyway.
This is a good argument for repentance and cleaning up our own acts as we step up in our God given assignments to help preserve the planet. We are, and must be salt.
Without good people villainy is embraced and will take over.
(Which leads me to beg forgiveness for my less than respectful treatment of the names of our opponents. I fall prey to the same weakness of flesh when I am driving in heavy traffic☹️).
Think how horrified and sickened many of us were to discover the true character of George H.W.Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney—all of whom many of us voted for in past elections…not that we were given much choice. Yet had ee known early enough in the process, many of us would have worked overtime to provide the country with better choices (as in the primaries).
But people have a chance in 2020 snd even before to ally themselves with true goodness seeking to safeguard individual freedoms vs an evil that seeks endless power and tyranny. Think of it, many people who abhor cooperation with foreign governments to control our elections will vote for the Democrat, thinking they are making the righteous choice.
They will never know the truth of Seth Rich, the Awan brothers, the coup against the President, or who really was close to Jeffrey Epstein because they are continually listening to lies. They will not understand why they are, and remain, targets of “hate”.
Without the truth, goodness dtwnfd to be equated with protecting the environment and combatting racism as well as removing the cause of violence against innocents (guns) and keeping the borders open to reunite families with their children.
We have our work cut out for us.
Anything we can do to further the DOWNFALL of the FAKE NEWS is a step toward our goal.
I’m not at all hopeful about our country uniting. This article is a few months old, but it’s a good one.
I have no illusion about agreeing on everything.
Heck, I disagree with Big T all the time.
But we need to look for small threads, a chance, a place to start.
We fear and oppose what we do not understand. If we can come to terms on one issue, then………. who knows?
I have no problem taking small wins to start! That is the start of red-pilling “the left”.
First, we have to be in the same room to talk to each other.
Can’t we just send them to Venezuela for a year? You know the SHOCK TREATMENT.
Whatever happened to the Peace Corps? It seems to still exist but I haven’t heard anything about it in decades.
As long as the fake news doesn’t control the room. If it does, then scare everybody out and destroy the room! 😉
If the powers that be would quit experimenting like Dr. David Banner of The Incredible Hulk fame, then we would get somewhere with all of it. But they are. They are tapping into the reptilian brains all the time, and that’s why we get the first 45 seconds of this only disguised with propaganda:
I’m not trying to be flippant at all, just saying that the people are being manipulated in the same sort of way.
As for China…at this point, to “save face” somewhere along the line they are going to make a big, fat, arrogant mistake. I hope it gets caught on video.
“In the never ending quest to find common ground with the left,”
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It’s the wrong quest.
It’s like a Christian trying to find common ground with a Satanist.
Mmm…. literally, in many cases.
The Left has completely abdicated any ‘place at the table’. They never deserved one in the first place, because the aim and intent — from the beginning — was subversion and treason.
They are the scorpion, and we are the frog.
And every time we let them ride on our back, they sting us halfway across the river. Because they are scorpions.
Or snakes, if you prefer (one of DJT’s favorite metaphors), and we knew they were snakes when we took them in.
I do not seek any common ground with the Left, because I have no misconceptions about what the Left is.
The only way to find ‘common ground’ with the Left is to take ALL of the ground, leaving them none.
I mean complete and total scorched earth take no prisoners, Old Testament eradication. Outlaw communism (and islam), seize the assets of every subversive Leftist entity in America, prosecute ALL of the traitors, starting with the MSM so they don’t have the opportunity to subvert the narrative as they successfully did in the 1950s.
McCarthy was right, and if we (Americans) had supported McCarthy then, we wouldn’t be in the fight of our lives NOW.
If we want peace, eradication is the price.
If we want to live under constant threat to ourselves, our loved ones and our country, then don’t pay the price, and allow the cancer to continue festering and metastasizing as it has from the beginning.
Because it is not benign, it is malignant — and it is purposeful, and premeditated, and calculating, and psychopathic, and it’s entire reason for being is to kill you and our country.
“The media is worse and far more corrosive to regular Americans.”
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The media is the #1 tool of the subversive / communist / globalist hostile invaders.
That’s what they are, hostile invaders.
Not “at the gate”, but deep inside the gate, having infiltrated every upper level of government and industry.
They use the media to further their specific interests AND to protect themselves, by making MSM the ‘enforcer’ of political-correctness.
These people are literally MONSTERS, inhuman psychopaths, in order to do what they do FOR A LIVING.
They are guilty of crimes against humanity which make Hitler pale by comparison.
There is no punishment too great for these people, for what they have done and continue to do, with open eyes and malice aforethought.
They threw their lot in with Satan.
They can renounce Satan anytime they like.
But until or unless they do, they’re with Satan, and Satan’s objective is and has always been the total and complete destruction of mankind.
I know many people dislike the simplicity of the concept of good and evil, black and white, right and wrong, preferring a million shades of gray.
It began as good and evil, black and white, right and wrong.
It exploded into a million shades of gray, like an expanding universe.
When it contracts, it will all come back to the same elements it began with: good and evil, black and white, right or wrong. The million shades of gray are only temporary fig leafs to hide behind. That’s all they’ve ever been. A vacation from reality. A convenient excuse to ignore ‘right and wrong, good and evil, black and white’, i.e., let’s just put this little fig-leaf on it, and then we can do what we want, without shame or guilt or excuse.
It never works.
Not in the long run.
It only makes the pain greater when the necessary correction comes.
And knowing that, the pain of that correction is always put off for as long as possible, which is how the evil is allowed to grow to such unimaginable magnitude.
And it will keep growing until something like the French Revolution happens, before order is restored again.
And Satan is fine with that.
A lot of people died in the French Revolution, and in all revolutions.
Satan loves death.
It’s what he wants most for us.
All 7+ billion of us.
But most of us won’t even look his way, won’t recognize him, won’t even believe he exists.
And Satan appreciates that very much.
It’s his favorite trick, and the best one he ever played.
Okay, let’s say “Satan controls the media” (Come on, not all of it at least.) After all, we are the news now. I liken the death of MSM to the death of AT&T. They are fat, slow, and greedy, wanting their customers to accept what they sell. All innovation gone……. and from nowhere, comes MCI, fax machines, personal computers, and cell phones.
Same thing with news.
Let’s assume everyone who believes in Islam is a horrible person and evil (Really,? that’s a stretch, but for the sake of the exercise, okay, let’s presume it.)
Do we just sit here and complain in our own echo chamber?
Let them win?
No thanks…..
It’s about finding something, some small inroad, where we can agree.
And it may not be this issue.
I could be completely wrong.
Bigger issue is finding SOMETHING.
When we can all agree on a single issue, everything changes.
Suddenly, they’re not so crazy anymore, and suddenly we’re not worth killing quite so much.
See what I mean?
I’m a bit pessimistic, but the idea of some bit of common ground that could allow family and friends a breather from the more extreme sides is a possibility.
I think those will happen anyway, as the rhetoric and violence gets worse. Most people do not want violence or another civil war, of that I’m sure. The media hypes their POV in order to discourage the rest of us.
Well….around here in my leftist state people unite around the state sports teams and—believe it or not—Christmas.
This is common ground. Fan hats replace maga or pussy hats, and most people go all out buying things for Christmas.
In fact, I long ago stopped complaining about the commercialization of Christmas and just became thankful. I am all for starting in July and devoting a full half year to the planning and celebration of the holiday. Christ is in it, whether you believe or not.
I think it might help if, like on this site, in a broader sense we all acted on our beliefs and befriended and loved one another.
People are hungry for this and for true goodness. They are just confused as to what it is.
This is why I am eo upset that there is infighting among the President’s supporters , and by people who should know better.
“This is why I am so upset that there is infighting among the President’s supporters , and by people who should know better.”
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The infighting is BECAUSE WE ARE FREE AND WE ARE STRONG!
It is the price we pay for freedom and logical thinking. As long as it does not get nasty it is healthy.
The Commie Left is ridge and ENFORCES Conformity. Most of these people are NOT thinkers (just regurgitators) and they are not STRONG. They can not stand on their own two feet. That is why they have to virtue signal.
Once you take away the agents provocateur and the PAID thugs and the MSM Gaslighting, I think you will see the left/commie sheep fall apart. This is WHY Q is prepping us to inform and explain to the bewildered sheeple what has happened.
2010 Rasmusen: 36% Democrats, 25% are Republicans, 17% Tea Party and 23% not sure.
*https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/february_2010/tea_party_candidate_now_comes_in_last_on_three_way_generic_ballot
2018 Rasmusen: 40% of all voters in party registration states are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are independents.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_rhodes_cook/registering_by_party_where_the_democrats_and_republicans_are_ahead
Perhaps the difference?
August 22, 2013 — The Rasmussen Reports, LLC Board of Directors today confirmed that founder Scott Rasmussen left the company last month. In part, the move reflects disagreements over company business strategies.
From Infographic: Psychopath Vs. Sociopath
“Let’s assume everyone who believes in Islam is a horrible person and evil (Really,? that’s a stretch, but for the sake of the exercise, okay, let’s presume it.)”
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I wouldn’t suggest that. It’s more like a disease of the mind, a death cult, and millions of muslims in the world today have never known life without it.
But in no way is that an acceptable excuse to continue in it.
Probably the large majority are not purposely or actively evil. But their foundational worldview is, and about that, I have never heard a credible dispute.
Has anyone?
I would love to hear the argument, but in all my years of waiting, asking, looking, not a single adherent has ever stepped forward to make it. Over a billion adherents, and not one credible argument among them.
I can’t be the only one who has noticed that there is no affirmative defense for islam ever presented by anyone.
There is a reason for that too, and it’s not even complicated, it’s right in our faces.
You could call it the “Manson dilemma”, or the ‘Jim Jones dilemma’… except Manson was only responsible for the deaths of a handful of people, and Jones was only responsible for the deaths of hundreds.
Mohamad (and the cancer on humanity he created) is responsible for the subjugation and murder of hundreds of millions, maybe more than a billion human beings over the last 1,400 years.
By every chart, by every statistic, by every metric, by every measurement conceivable, islam is far and away responsible for the overwhelming majority of terrorist violence (‘religious’ violence) around the world. There is no other belief system that even merits mentioning in the same breath, no one else is even close, no one else even registers on the graph.
It is literally not possible to defend a belief system invented by a mass-murdering pedophile and rapist, so they don’t even try. Instead they rely on intimidation, violence and corrupted Western notions of ‘tolerance’ and ‘protected class status’ to attempt to silence others into never questioning the origin of their heinous belief system.
The origin of islam is as ugly as it could possibly be. If there is any ideology in the history of the world that is responsible for more pain, more oppression, more suffering, more rape, more genocide than islam, what would that ideology be?
Somebody cue the crickets.
Which is why those who follow it and choose to remain in it have no excuse.
It literally cannot be defended, based on the very (claimed) words of the inventor himself.
So while all muslims may not be evil, their foundational worldview absolutely is, and it is so hideous and anti-human that it is literally without any credible defense.
We are all subject to temptation. islam feeds on carnal temptation. It provides adherents an excuse to do evil in the name of islam, to indulge the temptation rather than resist it. It provides an avenue to satisfy carnal desire at the expense of others, to do unspeakable harm of others, to violate others in every way imaginable, and to feel righteous and justified in doing so.
It is grotesque.
It is so hideous that it can’t even be spoken about in ‘polite company’, which is why it isn’t.
I like Islam in Islamic countries. Bring it past a certain percent anywhere else, and there will be blood. Maybe in 500 years that will change, but I have no proof that this must happen.
“I like Islam in Islamic countries.”
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I understand what you mean, but take it a step further, and you start to feel bad for the people who are essentially trapped in islamic countries. It’s modern day slavery. Where not prevented from doing so, they actually have OPEN SLAVE TRADING MARKETS. Wherever external restraint is absent, islam always (and almost immediately) reveals its true nature.
These are people who will throw homosexuals off the roofs of buildings. It’s so insane that it almost sounds funny for a second, like ‘you can’t be serious’ funny… until you realize it’s real, that they really DO that — and many other things — to human beings.
And the GOATS. What is it about the goats, that they can’t keep their PECKERS out of them?
What in the WORLD is that about?!?
The closer it is examined — basically, just looking at it, it’s not like it requires detailed study — the more islam reveals itself as codified/cultural criminal insanity.
And how surprising can that actually be, considering the known history of its creator?
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“Bring it past a certain percent anywhere else, and there will be blood. Maybe in 500 years that will change, but I have no proof that this must happen.”
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Indeed we have proof that it would not happen, not even in 5,000,000 years. If it never happened before, in the entire history of islam, then by what reason of logic would it ever happen in the future?
Mo declared himself the ‘last prophet’, which means anyone who comes after Mo, and teaches anything different than Mo taught, is a false prophet, by definition — to be summarily executed.
That is how (and why) the most violent psychopaths rise to the top and maintain power in islam. They have ‘religious authority’ to murder anyone who challenges them, or anything they do.
That is the ideological Petri dish from which ‘reform’ is supposed to spring forth…
There’s a better chance that Bambi beats Jaws.
With Bambi hog-tied and dragged behind a boat as bait.
There is a fascinating aspect to islam’s ‘place’ in the 21st century, and how ‘the world’ treats islam, compared to how ‘the world’ treats another very similar ideology of the historically recent past.
islam revels in being
athe example of the very worst that mankind can be. I don’t mean the spit-polished faux presentation they put on for appearances in the West — I mean real islam as it is practiced in the hellholes of the world — AND in the West, away from prying eyes. Like all the FGM surgeries that happen right here in America, right under our noses.Or all the islamic terrorist violence, hard to miss that…
But the question / observation I wanted to get to is this… first, what should we call it?
Let’s call it the muslim/Nazi dilemma.
What is the real difference between a muslim and a Nazi — and if there is no practical difference, then why should they be treated differently?
Consider:
They are both ideologies of death.
They are both ideologies of the occult.
They are both ideologies of absolute supremacy.
They are both ideologies of conquest and world domination.
They are both ideologies of relentless violence.
They are both ideologies of complete and total disregard for the value of human life.
We could certainly go on with the commonalities, but that should suffice for now.
Only one is responsible for the cold-blooded murder of approximately 11 million people.
The other one is responsible for the cold-blooded murder of hundreds of millions of people, and continues to murder people around the world, every single day.
Only one — the one that lasted for about 12 years and has been gone for 75 years — is recognized as a historic pariah, whose name is literally a worldwide epithet.
The other — the one that has been around for 1,400 years, has murdered hundreds of millions of people and murders (and mutilates) more people every day — is accorded ‘protected class’ status — not coincidentally by the exact same kinds of wealthy Western ‘elites’ who supported the Nazis in the 1930s.
Earlier, Daughn wrote “Let’s assume everyone who believes in Islam is a horrible person and evil (Really,? that’s a stretch, but for the sake of the exercise, okay, let’s presume it.)“.
What happens if we substitute “Nazism” for “islam”, if we just remove the word ‘islam’ and plug in the word ‘Nazism’, and leave everything else exactly the same?
Let’s try it, and find out:
“Let’s assume everyone who believes in Nazism is a horrible person and evil (Really,? that’s a stretch, but for the sake of the exercise, okay, let’s presume it.)”
Any light bulbs going on yet?
Beginning to see how we’ve been taken in by the deception?
It certainly didn’t happen by accident.
For as horrific as Nazism was, the history of Nazism is many orders of magnitude shorter, with an exponentially lower body count, than islam — by every standard of measurement.
It’s not even a contest.
If it was, Nazism wouldn’t even win a bronze. Nazism couldn’t even carry islam’s jockstrap… maybe in a sprint, but not the marathon. islam wins the marathon walking away.
And yet we easily condemn Nazis and Nazism, while bending over backwards to enable and excuse and give the benefit of the doubt to islam — and to those who practice it — don’t we?
How does that happen?
What is the explanation for the radical difference in perception between the two, especially considering that the one which is coddled is so clearly and indisputably worse than the one that is reviled?
There are many words for it, but they all point to the same answer: conditioning, propaganda, inculcation, indoctrination, social pressure, brainwashing, mind control, marketing, branding, etc.
Hypothetically speaking, is it possible to actually believe Hitler’s Nazi ideology, and practice Nazism, and be a ‘good person’?
Is it possible?
Certainly there were good people who resisted, who had no choice but to ‘officially’ be members of the Nazi Party or be sent to the death camps… Oskar Schindler apparently was one such person — but clearly he did not believe Hitler’s Nazi ideology, and he certainly didn’t practice it, beyond what was necessary to maintain his cover.
And no muslim in any Western country today needs to maintain such ‘cover’ or risk losing his life, so we can dispense with that comparison as it relates to muslims in the West.
So again, is it possible to actually believe Hitler’s Nazi ideology, and practice Nazism, and be a ‘good person’?
Is it possible?
It’s an interesting question, isn’t it?
Everyone reading this knows I’m about to place them on the horns of a dilemma (I’ve certainly telegraphed it enough!)
It’s a fair question isn’t it?
It has to be, because everyone knows we’re about to ask the same question about islam, which is the only reason anyone reading this had to think twice about how they might answer the previous question, because they know the follow-up question.
So let’s get straight to it then. Is it possible to be a genuine muslim, to believe the tenets of islam and practice them, and be a ‘good person’?
Well, is it — or isn’t it?
Every person reading this, and who is honest with himself, knows the answer.
The more interesting question is this: did you know the answer before the muslim/Nazi dilemma was presented… or only after?
And more importantly, what are the implications of the answer?
How should it affect our interactions with adherents, or more importantly, how should it affect public policy and law?
Once you’ve ‘seen’ it, once you know the answer, can you ever ‘unsee’ it?
Can you take the blue pill and go back to sleep?
And if you could, why would you?
Don’t look away.
Were there any ‘good’ Nazis, people who believed the teachings of Nazism and practiced them?
If the answer is ‘yes’, how can that argument be made without defending the doctrines and practices of Nazism?
And if the answer is ‘no’, then how can there be any good muslims, either?
So… were there any ‘good’ Nazis?
Even one?
Truth may initially bring discomfort, but it always brings clarity.
And clarity is desperately needed when confronted by a deadly enemy.
“I liken the death of MSM to the death of AT&T. They are fat, slow, and greedy, wanting their customers to accept what they sell. All innovation gone……. and from nowhere, comes MCI, fax machines, personal computers, and cell phones.
Same thing with news. ”
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Except where is the ‘death’?
MSM hasn’t gone anywhere.
And they won’t be, until they are forcibly removed.
They are not actually beholden to ‘ratings’ or any notion so quaint. Their viewership / readership could drop to ZERO and they would still be on the air every night — working even harder. Media is their PRIMARY WEAPON and CONTROL mechanism. Does anyone think they would give that up for lack of ‘legitimate’ funds?
The MSM’s purpose isn’t to make money, and it certainly isn’t to inform or deliver ‘news’.
It’s purpose is control, to maintain the ‘narrative de jour’, because without it, the entire scheme collapses.
So the MSM isn’t going anywhere, until it is physically forced into submission by arrest and conviction of the majority of its members — no different than any other criminal organization.
Does anyone doubt that the Cabal has the ability to fund the MSM and continue it indefinitely, by whatever means necessary, regardless of ‘ratings’, until or unless it is physically prevented from doing so?
The MSM isn’t ‘dead’, it doesn’t even operate the way we are led to think it does, by any capitalist premise. It is just a weapon which will be used against us until the wielder of that weapon is disarmed.
The only time evil ever goes away, the only time it ever stops, is if good people decide to make it stop — and then do it.
We have a representative government, our forefathers chose a path where the power of force and authority resides in the lawful agency of government, and it is the government’s responsibility to enforce the rule of Law, and to protect and defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Our government stopped doing any of that a long time ago, long before I was born.
DJT was elected in large part to stop the insanity, to restore law and order.
He has accomplished many things in the last three years, but he hasn’t done that.
And that is the one thing that is more needful than any other.
The daily insanity of the world we live in, the orchestrated ‘propaganda narrative’ we are marinated in every day, the psy-ops and disinformation, is probably the worst aspect.
Where is Comey, where is McCabe, where is Yates… Brenan, Clapper, Holder, Lynch, Kerry, Biden, Ohr, Strzok, Page, Powers, Rice, Jarrett, Hussein, Clinton, Huma, Podesta, Steele, Wittes, Soros, and on and on and on?
Who has actually been arrested and prosecuted?
Besides Epstein, who ‘died’ under the most ridiculous circumstances that even Epstein doesn’t believe it?
They’re all free as birds, taunting and plotting and profiting, just as they have for decades.
I’m glad the stock market is up.
I’m glad China is being confronted.
I’m glad about a lot of things DJT has done, and grateful.
But people weren’t crying out for those things. Those aren’t things that wrench peoples’ souls. Those aren’t things people ‘rend their garments’ (or punch holes in walls) over.
People were (and are) crying out for JUSTICE.
For the INSANITY to STOP.
For the RULE of LAW, for EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW.
For the love of everything good and decent, someone stop the TREASON and SUBVERSION.
WE could do it, if someone in Authority gave us the green light. The government SHOULD do it, but they won’t.
So we’re just in limbo, in misery, in an anticipation of deliverance, with no assurance that it will ever happen. We’re not ‘allowed’ to deliver ourselves from this evil, and the people authorized to do it, won’t.
They just won’t. I don’t care what their excuses are at this point, it doesn’t matter — they won’t do it.
And every time Q says something about his precious ‘concern’ for the mental well-being of the enemy, his manifest disregard for US only grows more apparent.
OMGosh, BlackKnighRides is here!!!!!!
I loved him and miss him!
Agreed. The gentleman is one smart dude.
Now if only BLADE would join us!
I used to think Wolfmoon and BlackKnightRides were the ol’ One – Two punch! Sometimes the ol’ right cross didn’t know what the ol’ left jab was up to, but I’d always be inspired, and laughing out loud!
Thanks God, for making our days so good.
Me too.
He obviously passed Wolf’s Extreme Vetting! 😀
Been wishing for BKR to join here FOREVAH 🤓💥☄️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Hope he starts commenting 🙌
Posted a link to this on Parler and Gab.
Ok,
I talked to Hubby who grew up in the Boston MA area. He is convinced that the Socialist/Commies who he is friends with will never ever change their stripes. They are completely convinced that Communism is THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. 🙄
(I figure out communism was a scam when I was nine. You would think these ‘intellectuals’ would get a clue.)
So that group will remain hard core.
However the union people who were betrayed by the DemonRats and the Blacks in the cities who were betrayed are a lot more practical than the ivory tower ‘intellectuals’ Hubby knows. Those people I think WILL switch when they understand they are living in shit-holes because the DemonRats STOLE THEIR MONEY. Scott Presler #ThePersistence is probably doing more to change minds than anyone else I know.
https://scottpresler.org/
The pendulum has swung, and locked in, to the left for many years. I just don’t see a way to unite Left and Right until the pendulum has swung back to at least the center.
They will not parley with honesty until they have lost hope of defeating us in battle.
On the plus side…
Daughn!— THis Post is soooooo Good and Important! And Brilliant!!!!
But… I am going..easier route—Bear with me….
This is gonna sound flippant—but not meant to be…..
My purchase….and Subsequent wearing of the “Epstein didn’t kill Himself” Christmas Sweater…………Was THE MOST UNITING sweater…..IT was ALSO…….THE most repeated MEME of 2019!!!!!! I truly believe……….The EPSTEIN Story—as sick and ugly as it is……….Will be the UNITER of this country!!!!!!…and I also believe…….Our Genius President………..Also Knows this! As does Honey Badger Barr!—
That. Is. My. 2020…………Prediction!!!!
This is actually a GREAT point. “EDKH” was one of the biggest UNITING memes of the year.
Very important FACT. And this tells me that a TRUE UNITING MEME will feel NATURAL and happen ORGANICALLY, and the best thing to do is WAIT FOR IT TO HAPPEN and then PILE ON HARD.
It…Is…………..Gonna …………….be….Organic!!!!! Just like flipping polls on Twitter!!!
If we didn’t pile on HARD……………When the Cov Catholic–Nick Sandman story–Happened—he—Wouldn’t be winning!!!! !!!! We Need to Keep reminding ourselves……We ARE! STRONG!!!! Moar than …63 MILLION…STRONG!!!!!
Hmmm…..speaking of uniting left and right…..looks like ristvan is working on getting banned at OT.
DARN!
Some Dude would be really stupid to ban Rud Istvan, a guy who has argued cases in front of the Supreme court.
Of course Some Dude doesn’t like any challenge to his awsomeness.
WUT?!!!!!
Just in case it later goes foom…..
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/30/hubris-peter-strzok-argues-in-court-his-first-amendment-rights-were-violated/comment-page-1/#comment-7707218
ristvan says:
December 30, 2019 at 7:20 pm
Well we have an instant answer. CTH is ID moderating me now for sometimes disagreeing.
ADMIN RESPONSE: You are not being moderated for “disagreeing”, you are being moderated for targeting other commentators with your remarks. READ THE RULES: targeting or ridiculing other commentators is not permitted.
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I suspect that ristvan had three theories put forth by different commenters in which he agreed in part and disagreed in large part. Rather than continually rehash the arguments, he’d say, “I think B is wrong in XXXXXXXXXXX…..and C is wrong in YYYYYYYYYYYY…..though A, B, and C are likely right with WWWWWWWW.” I suspect the greater problem was that ristvan thought that A, B, C, and SD were wrong about ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
What…A-Holes!!!! America…Much? Some Dude is..NOT…the same….
Moderating Ristvan?
Wow
“ADMIN RESPONSE: You are not being moderated for’“disagreeing’, you are being moderated for targeting other commentators with your remarks.”
Which means exactly what? “Targeting other commentators” could be as simple as addressing someone with whom you disagree. If that’s the “rule,” it has the same effect as stopping “disagreeing” — in which case ristvan was being moderated for disagreeing. The rules OT are not consistently applied and are very subjective.
Pretty weird, eh?
To Ristvan???
Gee, he doesn’t seem like he would be cross.
Admin definitely lowered the boom, however , on dear Ristvan.
Can their loss be our gain?
Ristvan, if you are listening…..please?
The screaming from the loonies is getting fainter
1) Fox News dominated the basic cable news industry in 2019, according to a new report, which specifies the network has hit record high viewership.
Nielsen Media Research said Fox News averaged 2.5 million viewers during primetime in 2019, far outpacing any other news network. The network’s viewership hit a 23-year high this year, blowing out its competitors, CNN and MSNBC, by a long shot.
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Scott Free @scottfree
2) Nielsen said CNN came in 22nd place, recorded just 972,000 viewers during primetime.
To sum up, CNN is suffering a credibility crisis as viewership is in a mass exodus, fleeing the fake news network to more conservative networks, such as Fox News. There appears to be no plan of action by CNN or liberal media to fix the hemorrhaging of viewership, indicating the trend will persist through 2020.
https://tinyurl.com/rr5ubvb
Fox is how they keep them in the Overton Window. At some point, we basically make them choose between FOX and THE TRUTH. At that point, the Overton Window shifts to REALITY.
Sorry Daughn but I can find no fault with China controlling the Uighurs. They are Muslims and are NOT just quietly minding their business in their province. They are constantly creating disturbances and fights with the govt. They are basically acting as if their piece of China is a no-go zone for the Chinese govt. Just like Dearbornistan and Hamtrackstan in Michigan.
It would be optimal if China just gave them their independence but I’m guessing there is some value in the land that China doesn’t want to lose. So it is re-educating them to think communist. Not what we like but seriously what is it to us? They aren’t machine-gunning them or running murder chambers with gas like Hitler did.
I think the Chinese commies looked long and hard at Europe’s Muslim problems and also at the US with our Muslim problems – and said we’re not doing that.
Muslim need to be in submission. China is doing it by herding them into camps. Survival for both the Uighurs and the Chinese.
Plus it’s not really any of our business. If they had killed them all, it would be over and then what? Would we hold a grudge for generations? I find what the Chinese commies are doing to the Uighurs to be the most humane behavior they have ever demonstrated.
Even if you don’t care if a regime kills a million people because you think their religion is bad, the general idea still works.
Beating China over the head with the PROBLEM of the Uighurs, while we claim high moral ground, would work to bring some unity to America.
No mind what your objection to Islam is, it doesn’t matter.
And yeah, I’m sorry to disagree, but killing a million Muslims would be a bad thing.
Thinking…… maybe that’s how the Germans were able to kill all the gypsies and Jews…… because they convinced the larger population to not care about them. Maybe? Who knows….
I don’t know, but if the CCP decided to imprison and kill a million people who belonged to the church of “let’s meet once a year and worship black-eyed peas and ham for dinner”, it would still be a problem. It’s still a million people dead….. and mostly for the purposes of a political “belt and road” goal.
“And yeah, I’m sorry to disagree, but killing a million Muslims would be a bad thing.”
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Of course… the majority are innocent women and children, and some men. They are essentially hostages to a maniacal death cult. They need rescue, not extermination.
We used to know how to do that, we used to know how to teach backwards people, barbarians, a better way, back when we were an openly and sincerely Christian nation.
But we can’t do that now, when we won’t even teach ourselves or hold ourselves to any Christian standard, thanks to the subversion of the Communists.
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“Thinking…… maybe that’s how the Germans were able to kill all the gypsies and Jews…… because they convinced the larger population to not care about them. Maybe? Who knows….”
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There is a meaningful difference.
Gypsies and Jews were not a national threat. Jews and Gypsies weren’t murdering and raping and sawing off people’s heads and burning them in cages and mutilating anyone’s genitalia, so Jews and Gypsies were no threat to anyone, at least not physically.
So the Germans and their Leftist ‘Nazi’ socialist ideology were just mass-murderers of innocents, as Leftists always are.
islam and communism are the same in that regard. islam and communism are extermination ideologies. ‘Submit or die’ ideologies.
So islam vs. communism is just two different mass-murderers trying to wipe each other out.
Borg vs. Borg.
I don’t wish ill on any innocent human being, but I sure won’t take one side of incalculable evil against the other when they’re just two sides of the same evil coin.
If the insanity and violence is to ever stop, they BOTH must be exposed and humiliated and repudiated into ‘Nazi’ pariah status.
The Uighurs are no threat to the CCP in this instance. It’s pure convenience.
And let me be more precise.
Killing a million people, just because they are muslim, is never a “good thing”
“Muslim need to be in submission.”
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Except ‘submission’ is not a long term solution.
It’s like saying cults who engage in ‘cannibalism’ need to be in submission…. it is not submission that is needed, but emancipation from their insanity, from the WRONG, from the ERROR of their way.
And yes, that is a JUDGMENT we should ALL be willing to make… take the PC subversive idiocy of condoning everything and judging nothing and throw it in the human waste treatment plant where it has always belonged.
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“China is doing it by herding them into camps. Survival for both the Uighurs and the Chinese.”
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Except herding into camps to be abused and murdered by Communists is no better than what the muzzies do, like concluding two wrongs make a right, isn’t it?
They should BOTH be stopped.
Called out, exposed, in the light of day, and repudiated, given the worldwide pariah status that both communism and islam deserve more than any other ideologies in the history of mankind.
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“Plus it’s not really any of our business. If they had killed them all, it would be over and then what?”
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For better or worse, anyone committing genocide makes it our ‘business’.
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“I find what the Chinese commies are doing to the Uighurs to be the most humane behavior they have ever demonstrated.”
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Then China sets a low bar for humaneness… but it’s no different than the Uighurs would do to the Chinese if the roles were reversed, because islam.
islam and communism are two deadly poisons, like two different strains of Ebola, working together when expedient, vying with each other for supremacy when it is to either’s advantage.
Neither is capable of understanding ‘peace’, much less seeking or maintaining it.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1211451728974868480.html
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1211716335006208000.html
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1211780216005124097.html
Carlos n theses attacks
Rationalizing, temporizing and justifying – even condoning in some cases – the forced imprisonment of fellow human beings- currently at 1 million – by a murderous communist totalitarian government. Will you get upset if they are murdered or is that simply better “control” of the Muslims? After all killing was “the final solution” for the Nazis as well.
Y’all are disappointing at best. When Eisenhower arrived at one of the concentration camps he ordered every newsperson to take pictures of everything because “someone will say someday this never happened.” When the Allied troops advanced on the areas where the concentration camps had existed for so many years, they found hundreds of Germans citizens had committed suicide because the realization of their evil complicity was too staggering to contemplate ahd have exposed to their fellow man.
I’m thinking I need to order up some mirrors.
Posted on 12/31.
Reviewed by author on 1/4.
Crickets.
“Then they came for me and there was no one left , . . . .”
“Posted on 12/31.
Reviewed by author on 1/4.
Crickets. ”
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Reviewed by author?
You mean Daugn?
Isn’t she your wife?
no, not me
Nevermind, I understand now, lol!
“When the Allied troops advanced on the areas where the concentration camps had existed for so many years, they found hundreds of Germans citizens had committed suicide because the realization of their evil complicity was too staggering to contemplate ahd have exposed to their fellow man.”
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We should expose communism and islam in the exact same way.
Teach it in the schools, in movies, in news media, every day, everywhere, the grotesque historical and current evil of islam and communism, everywhere it has ever been practiced.
Expose both, just like we exposed the atrocities of Nazism.
Except Nazism is only responsible for a tiny FRACTION of the misery and mass-murder that communism and islam have done, and continue to do, every single day.