For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.
We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.
For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.
Primary Update Links:
- Links to the USA CoronaVirus Task Force: http://coronavirus.gov/
- Johns Hopkins CSSE Dashboard to update number of “official” cases within China and worldwide: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
- Another summary of data, updates and sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
- Hard Link to the World Health Organization: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
- Hard Link to the Center for Disease Control: CDC Updates: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:
- Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
- Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
- Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates
- Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
- China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
- An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
- Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
- Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
- Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.
- Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
- Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
- Other news items
Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:
- January 25th, Our first thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/25/20200125-coronavirus/
- January 27th, Our second thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/27/20200127-coronavirus-update-thread/
- February 1st-9th, Our third thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/01/20200201-coronavirus-update-thread-3/
- February 10th – 18th, Our Fourth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/10/20200210th-19th-coronavirus-thread/
- February 19-29th: Our Fifth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/18/20200218th-29th-coronavirus-update-thread/
- March 1-10th, Our Sixth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/2020-march1st-7th-coronavirus-covid19-xivirus-wuflu-6th-update-thread/
- March 9-16th, Our Seventh Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/09/2020-march-9th-16th-coronavirus-covid19-xivirus-wuflu-7th-weekly-update-thread/
Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.
Love to all!
Here’s an editorial on Dallas County Texas . . .
Blog: Flawed County Decision Based on Flawed Data
As counties across Texas enact “shelter-in-place” orders, at least one county based their decision on questionable data.
Robert Montoya
March 25, 2020
https://texasscorecard.com/metroplex/blog-flawed-county-decision-based-on-flawed-data/
We’re closed down all over Oregon, and we have counties with no cases at all – counties that are very rural.
Unnecessary in rural areas, and counterproductive!!!
It’s ridiculous Linda. I asked the bank teller yesterday who is a childhood friend ,yes were rural we know everyone and I am a 6th gen Oregonian ,if she knew of anyone who has the China flu she says no but she’s heard rumors.rumors? Is this what idiot Kate bases a shutdown on? Rumors? I’m betting so.
So sick of liberal. Errr communists I could just puke.
Thank you for this. Our county judge and at least one commissioner are advocating for a shelter in place order. The fear mongering is almost criminal.
Yes it should be criminal.
Daughn – the date above should be 3/27.
Hope you get a good night’s sleep!
I fixed it!!!
The way to fix these is (0) click on the title, (1) change the date number, (2) edit the date number in the URL above the title (may have to click elsewhere and then back in the title), and (3) remove the “-2” at the end of the URL, which the system uses to create a unique URL.
From near close of discussion between Wolfie and Rex on 3/26, when did Chinese virus/Bill Gates planning possibly start?
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University, beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruitment plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china
2011 is a significant date in SARS research – I don’t remember exactly – but it’s big. Yes – this is a timeline item. China is going WHOLE HOG under Obama. Their ally Holder is going full guns against the Tea Party. And virus research made some BIG STEPS right then about SARS and BATS, but I don’t remember what it was. It was some publication I read. BIG DEAL.
Please oh please someone start a timeline who has more cycles to do this! Soon we’re going to correlate Spygate, Impeachgate, and Xigate on the same reference axis! And need a Nasty Nan tracker too!
I really CAN’T do it in the near term
You CAN bet the family farm that they are ALL related, and involving MANY of the same players in the Cabal. It is as certain as death and taxes
There are a lot of studies between 2005 and 2015, and a resurgance with this virus. Kinda weedy, but abstract is doable. Not sure this is it. There is another ftom 2012, but based in Italy.
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Coronavirus ORF8 Protein Is Acquired from SARS-Related Coronavirus from Greater Horseshoe Bats through Recombination.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26269185
WOLFIE 🙂 This bat study? Drop 3896. It is a few posts down. Jordan is also connecting dots.
Good stuff! Was not aware of recent Q drops. Gonna go big with them now!!!
What is the current status of Lieber & the two ChiCom spies? Are they prevented from traveling?
All these same words, like nanoscience, chinese, research lab, Wuhan. When did the groundbreaking for the lab occur?
That lab in Wuhan is a bio level 4 that means HIGHLY pathogenic. There are NO coincidences. NONE
For reference, the place I retired from had a bio level 3 lab, and we HAD to be trained for and WEAR the complete self contained “space suits” I think we had some anthrax and various other viruses, mostly NOT related to humans, but MICE, they just went overboard to PREVENT the spread TO humans., but NOTHING weapons grade, and NOTHING approach small pox or worse, which is what is in BL4
Cool! Thanks for that dig!
People: Please, Please stop dividing the current # of deaths into the current # of known cases and calling it the death rate. That is NOT how the death rate is calculated. That is fake news, even if it is not on purpose. We need to be responsible in fighting fake news, not creating more of it ourselves!
When we don’t have our basic facts straight we don’t understand decisions that are being made and we do not sound informed when we are speaking to Dems/leftists on social media or in person. Facts matter.
One more time…
If we have 100 cases of the WuFlu and 10 people have died and 10 people have recovered… we do NOT have a 10% death rate!
10% of the known, documented via testing cases have died but that is not the death rate.
Why? because the 80 cases that are left are Not yet resolved in death or recovery. We do Not yet know the death rate of group A until all 100 cases are resolved in death/recovery.
At that point we can say, 50 people died and 50 people recovered which gives us a 50% death rate.
We do NOT calculate the death rate by dividing those who have died into the total number of current, ongoing cases.
Now, the death rate will be less than the percentage of resolved, diagnosed cases that died. Why? Because we Know that there are more cases than those that are documented – same as the flu.
Over time, as stats become known, the CDC will make an educated guess/estimate of how many undocumented cases we had – the # of none symptomatic cases, the number of mild cases and the number of harder cases who still didn’t get tested &/or hospitalized. Then they will add those #s of all estimated/projected cases to the known cases divide that number by all of the estimated deaths (documented + an informed estimate of the people they figure died due to the WuFlu but were undocumented/tested). That will be the death rate.
As things are developing they are studying the data and developing estimates as we speak.
However, the death rate is NOT deaths divided into known cases. Stop doing that as it makes MAGA supporters look silly.
This has been explained multiple times. Here is an article that may do a better job of explaining it than I do:
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/18/calculating-the-coronavirus-mortality-rate-its-complicated/
currently of US documented cases of Wuflu we have had 1,300 deaths/1,868 recovered….of 3,168 resolved cases 1,300 have ended in death.
That would look like a disastrous ratio/death rate except:
1) death seems to be quickly by days and even weeks than recovery so of those who got sick a the same time those who would pass seem to do so after a few days but actual, full recovery takes multiple weeks.
2) there are many more cases that have had WuFlu and recovered that are undocumented via testing which account for Many more recovered
3) and we projected the death rate of those hospitalized with complications will also go down as more effective therapies are found
Remember, our current stats are a fluid situation of a Developing story. Everyday’s stats will increase for the foreseeable future, although hopefully at a reduced rate and then at manageable numbers (Not just the rate but also the raw numbers of increase once the total case load reaches a large total, right Steve? that is one of the points I got from your article) and every day is 1 day snapshot of a growing #, not a final total.
Do you approve of how the State of GA calculates their death rate%
https://dph.georgia.gov/georgia-department-public-health-covid-19-daily-status-report
It is not my personal opinion so nothing for me to approve/disapprove…which is an odd way to post your question if you don’t understand the difference…but I am happy to help you understand.
AGAIN – they are not posting Death “rate” but the % of known cases who have died … which is not the actual death rate because the known cases include ongoing/unresolved cases. The above linked article helps explain this.
GA web site literally does NOT call that the death “rate”. BIG different. Words matter. This is not my “opinion”…see the info from your link:
“Confirmed cases and deaths in Georgia.
COVID-19 Confirmed Cases No. Cases (%)
Total 1643 (100%)
Hospitalized 509(30.98%)
Deaths 56 (3.41%)”
They are noting % of deaths of known current cases, not death rate. Remember, that the rest of recovered/deaths will come down
1) as the numbers of informed estimates of the mild cases are added into the numbers, just as the CDC does every year for the flu. This will greatly increase the estimated WuFlu totals but will reduce the apparent death rate.
2) and as more cases are resolved – recoveries take weeks and for hospitalizations for often for multiple days to weeks in the ICU.
As conservatives we want to be accurate and informed, more so than the average and facts matter. Some do calculate the death rate by dividing past deaths into ongoing cases…but that is not correct.
If the first article didn’t help maybe this one will…
https://towardsdatascience.com/why-the-coronavirus-mortality-rate-is-misleading-cc63f571b6a6
I’ve stopped caring about the death rate, personally. It’s so different for different age groups, and behaviors change it so much, I find it more important to just bring these bastards down before they build something with a higher death rate, whatever that is.
Not saying you shouldn’t worry about it or post about it – just explaining my apparent lack of interest.
I care about bending it DOWN, beyond that it’s just more fear driven statistical pseudoscience right now.
Thank you. I concur wholeheartedly!
I care about rate of growth, # of new cases, complications rate and hospital load esp. on ICUs.
I also care about treatment options and the messing around with the solutions on the table is despicable! And the % of Americans who have it and are unable to work at any given time is another important stat to me.
But death rate is important as it is being misquoted too low and too high, partly in honest mistakes, partly (by some) as spin.
Its a number, a fact, not an opinion and some in the media are using it to bolster their narratives. we must correct the fake news but we have to do so correctly to be effective.
So many other aspects to this situation and you are right – Where did it come from, by who, how, why…All critically important! Thinking about that aspect of this deal Now is good so that you gather while it is still fresh and the narrative is not 100% streamlined…and things are accidentally reported and/or still available online.
Also, the horrible way the Dems and media are politicizing this and creating fake news about President Trump, false narratives, etc. is just despicable!
the economy, long term impacts on society, long term changes to deal with other bioweapons for national security purposes, short term/long term impacts on us as individuals of the shut down and finally, taking care of our and our family’s health…so many important layers and aspects to thinking about and death with this situation!
At this point, I really don’t know what can be done to unmuddle what has been muddled by the leftists.
If you could explain to everybody in very simple terms what a proper death rate should be – I mean very basic terms – it might be useful.
The most useful thing I’ve found so far is an analysis of that damn cruise ship!
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/
It may be below, but maybe, a simple formula less paragraphs. Slow folk, like me get befuddles easy. Distracted, simply move on. Yet know the death rate matters. Moved on already.
How many pieces of fruit. 2 apple + 2 orange = 4 pieces of fruit.
Compute death rate. A (one or two words) divided by B (one or two words) = C death rate.
If it can be this simple, it would help slow folk like me.
Pardon my being a simpleton.
It’s why the morbidity rate (those who actually die) keeps going down.
The denominator SHOULD be all those in the USA who have the disease.
Well, we’ve heard countless stories of delays in testing and no testing available in some areas……. some people HAVE IT and never know they have it.
We need an accurate number of actual people who have the disease. But we only need that number for those who want to scream about a number in the middle of a pandemic.
It’s why China quit testing.
It’s why many other countries quit testing.
Those who get sick, or think they are sick, will go and be tested. If diagnosed, they will receive instructions to be admitted to hospital or go home.
Only way to get an accurate number on those infected is to test every single person in a county ——- and come up with a number.
But that number may change tomorrow, because more people become infected.
And the next day.
Deaths/those who are confirmed to have the virus means nothing when compared from country to country.
We don’t count cases the same way as China.
We have obviously tested more than any other country on earth.
Skews the numbers.
All designed to mislead the public. Cherry-picking stats to scare people.
And that is why we simply move on to more important facts.
How to get the economy moving to warp speed again.
Nail the perpetrators…
🙏🙏🙏 Prayers up, took my wife to urgent care 🙏🙏🙏
Wanted you to see this Wolf
I am sorry to hear this! Prayers now and together with my family in the morning
Keep us informed!!! Will keep praying. There is a bad flu our right now, too. Whatever it is, our prayers are with your whole family! <3
No details yet but word is she’s fine PTL
(((Michael – may God watch over your precious family ))) ✝️💖
Praying right now, Michael. God be with you both…May the Lord grant you both comfort, peace, healing, rest, joy, light, & life. In Jesus’ Name
🙏🙏🙏
Double like, Wolfie. Lack of interest because other moving parts are a priority.
Numbers are beautiful, but they can be a trap. Right now, the other side is using them like flypaper to slow us down and keep us away from what matters – BIG changes in numbers that point to the exit.
The death rate and cases tote board, on ALL news channels, are NOTHING more than a tool of PROPAGANDA and FEAR. SOON, because the numbers in that BOGUS exponential projection from Imperial College are and always were FANTASY, ALL these tote boards will GO AWAY. People WILL be come desensitized to it, and like the work “racist” now, will cease to have “impact”
The death rate that they used and are USING still IS calculated by the KNOWN cases and even “projected” deaths from Covid 19. It was part of the hook to instill FEAR.
Now, as MORE and MORE people are tested, and more show infection, the “death rate” DECREASES DRAMMATICALLY. So they have ALREADY tried to move that goal post bu the words “highly contagious” and “community spread” Soon those numbers will peter out, because it was ALL based on a lie, and we had WAY more people infected, EARLIER, who recovered, never reported, or were MIS reported, even the DEATHS,. JUST as I have been REPEATEDLY saying for weeks here.
Brix CONFIRMED it yesterday, and you would have thought she shot Old Yeller by the MSM reaction.
People need to WAKE UP, and realize that this was an OP, a FARCE, an EXAGGERATION of a RAL virus, that was MORE like the REAL annual flu that it was the 1918 Pandemic it was HYPED to be,
Once you GET to that point, it is then EASY to ask WHY would they do that? From there it is a SHORT leap to WHO benefits, and then the realization that this WAS an OVERBLOWN op designed to destroy the economy, all by inducing FEAR of the unknown, fanned by projections and JUST enough “health officials” to hype it JUST enough to scare the SHIT out of people with REAL deaths, but WAY over projected death, and spread rate. JUST enough to make we the people susceptible to the ATTACKS on our economy and OUR FREEDOMS, so that we would HAPPILY give up our jobs, our businesses, and our FREEDOM in the name of things like “civic duty”, “patriotic duty”, “helping the most vulnerable” “doing the right thing for the elderly” , and my fav, the “right thing to do as a good neighbor and a human being”
Raise your hand if one of you local officials have uttered one or more of those phrases (raises hand).
Of COURSE you have, and MORE. Part of the SOP. Appeal to our basic decency, patriotism, and our love for each other. My little Napoleon even used CHILDREN, and the implied threat that they might inadvertently give it to ( INFER KILL) Grandma and Grandpa, so we need to “social distant, and remain good little worker bee…er citizens
GET IT NOW. These people, who NEVER let a good crisis go to waste, who have politicized EVERY mass shooting, weather disaster, and terror event to try and further their agendas, USED this very real, but ORDINARY virus to ATTACK all of us. IF it turned OUT to be what they HYPED it to be, they would have been GOOD with that, the MORE DEATH and suffering the BETTER.
It would make the masses more tractable, easier to RULE, and WILLING, no BEGGING to give up their freedoms in exchange for the government to STOP this.
Now some TRUTH. NO government ANYWHERE, and at ANY time could STOP this, anymore than they could control the WEATHER OR stop the sun coming up, they do NOT have that kind of power, NEVER did, NEVER will. ONLY God has that power, and he is NOT playing their games. HOW do you stop what you CANNOT see, you CANNOT hear, you CANNOT smell, you CANNOT predict, and you CANNOT TOUCH to FIGHT IT? YOU CAN’T, you can ONLY mitigate it, and wait for it to be OVER, unless you find an ANTIDOTE. It WILL run it’s course, they ALL do, whether we like it or not, and whether we have a “vaccine” or not, people will STILL get, spread, suffer, and some DIE from this.
Once more, I don’t care for your lecturing tone. You keep harping on calculations and fear-raising projections that change every day, are often based on faulty or irrelevant data, and are interpreted by many sources in various ways. You imply we are stupid or ill-informed because we ignore you or don’t agree with you. Day-to-day data tells us little until we can identify localized trends. I will rely on Dr. Birx and my state websites for that information.
I have no interest in your growth rates or death rates or other data manipulations. Feel free to keep posting it, but please stop haranguing us for not listening to you. The superiority really gets old.
That is sure to leave a mark.
Never get in the middle of seasoned ladies’ back and forths about their convictions. Sometimes they can be bloodier than middle school scuffles in the ghetto.
Gave me a laugh that anyone would choose comfort of their emotions over facts but always good to start the day with a laugh.
More of a reflection on those who refuse to learn than the one who has earnestly and repeatedly tried to explain for days and days.
Impossible for me to understand wanting to stay ignorant v. learn. When Steve posted his article on exponential growth, I studied it and learned that it is not just exponential growth but getting to a certain size too quickly because at that point, even if the growth rate flattens, it is still a large case load for the hospitals to carry and additional growth will still be larger numbers even if percentage is low.
I read that article multiple times because I wanted to Learn and Understand. Odd to me to run into people who actively don’t want to learn and are offended by facts.
If dealing in reality and facts raises one’s fears then one are not dealing in reality. One needs be fearful of facts. Facts don’t care about your feelings and truth has no agenda – don’t we want facts, regardless of some people’s emotional reactions to the realities of a tough situation?
I have manipulated no data. I have used no faulty data.
If we understand facts, we can deal in reality and then focus overcoming and achieving. If we do not understand the facts then we not make quality decisions or support those who are making quality decisions.
Hiding from facts (such as constantly focusing on today’s numbers and asking why the strong actions taken by President Trump based on today’s numbers) is undermining President Trump and his leadership as well as undermining the steps he is trying to take to save American lives.
Comfort porn is just as bad as fear porn – both are inaccurate. Hiding from reality is silly, inaccurate and lessens the credibility of the person doing so and this blog regardless of how much better it feels and how much more comfortable it leaves one.
If someone comes here and reads inaccuracies, complaints and disagreement with President Trump’s recommendation to stay home, with statements ignoring the growth rates, etc….all of the blog looks silly and the posting we are doing on other subjects looses credibility.
Was the same way with maga OT. She would jump into a conversation with something semi-ontopic, and then head into either eyeoreville or controlled opposition. The condesention could be from either. I pray against both for her. And will disengage. I need to stay focused on different facts, and my thumb tendonitis from scrolling past her posts needs time to heal.
Bonus: I can work on my typos 🙂
“Thumb tendonitis” 👍😎
As I drove into Nashville and am waiting (and waiting) in the dr. office you comment…”controlled opposition”…keeps floating back into my mind and makes me LOL.
Opposition to what? Really funny when I know the deep commitment my family and I have had, long hours dedicated and “spare” money given/spent toward electing and then supporting and now re-electing President Trump.
“Controlled Opposition”…insert laughing emoji here (+eye rolling emoji)
Seriously, why resort to this kind of smearing? Helpful?
MAGA Mom was educated in the USA and understands math.
(the pundits make me crazy)
Not question her math, nor her natural curiosity and hunger to learn. Just that it tends to show up in distracting places. I pray for her restlessness attitude to ease. Maga obviously would do well with higher education, where facts can bring reassurance.
Magamom, you’ve said you are in TN. As of 3/26/20, tn.gov is reporting 14,909 positive cases and 3 fatalities. Percentages aren’t listed. If tomorrow is sunny it may be a “nice day for a mow” – Todd Wilkinson.
https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov.html
thankfully, your numbers are significantly wrong … by a lot
TN has 957 confirmed cases as of 2 pm today .. including 13, ages 0-10 and 56 ages 11-20. 🙁
Something to remember is that state health dept web sites, the CDC and the WHO dashboard are all slightly behind/not reporting in real time. I find the link below to be more accurate although I check the TN health dpt. web site as well as FL, VA, GA, CA, LA, NY and WA #s on a daily basis (hot spots and/or friends/relative’s locations) to get a detailed picture of what is happening in those locations.
This web site is more accurate and the rest catch up…
world o meters dot info forward slash coronavirus forward slash country forward slash us forward slash
(spelling this out as WP seems to Hate this web site!)
TN has at least 1,098 confirmed Wuflu cases and these + more will show up at 2 pm tomorrow on the state web site. Cases are growing fastest in Nash, Shelby (Memphis) and Williamson County (just south of Nash and location of first known case)
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/covid-19-1098-cases-confirmed-in-tennessee
We have had 53 recover. So we have ~1,050 active, known cases as of right now as 56 have been resolved/concluded in death/recovery. We know we have unreported cases and cases yet to be diagnosed but already infected. same as everywhere else.
We have had somewhat aggressive testing and early lock down of schools as soon as the infections were known and I think that has helped slow the spread significantly. the first case in Williamson County had children in local schools and son was found to be infected. Williamson County and the directly affected private schools shut down very early.
the testing of people connected to this family and in the schools helped find cases that were mild and that helped slow the spread + has given us a number of recovered cases despite a relatively short time of having infections in our state.
Early action, esp. with schools and testing, has helped slow the spread here in TN. Our first case was found 3/5 and while cases have grown it is 22 days and we are just over 1K so that is good.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/mayor-cooper-metro-health-to-give-covid-19-update-at-9-30-a-m-thursday
Yep, 14K is total tested. Was reading an abstract at the same time. Mea culpa.
We have a less than 10% positive rate of testing and, yes, 14K+ have been tested. We have had multiple testing sites around Nash and Williamson county (and I assumed Memphis as well). Schools closed quickly infected counties and the whole state shut down schools within a short time. Staying at home is helping slow the growth.
Hospitalizations are less than 10% of known cases…again, because we are catching a lot of cases early and most of our diagnosed cases are 50 yrs and younger.
It came to TN via college students and traveling professionals. Williamson County case was from the BioGen conference/traveling in Boston, from my understanding. And it sadly got into our young people. We have almost as many 0-10 yrs as we do 70+ yrs. 🙁 Don’t like seeing children sick!
By the way, who is Todd Wilkinson and what does the “mowing” quote mean? I looked the name up but couldn’t’ figure it out.
Sorry I need an explainer but thanks for the help!
Since by your posts I can see you like a lecture, I have decided to interject here to give you one.
The tone of your posts is pissing people off. Whether you information is helpful or not is irrelevant in that case, because people won’t read it. I don’t. I scroll right past you, because patronizing is just irritating.
You might try changing the tone some if you really want people to pay attention and understand what you are attempting to convey.
Your loss.
Time out.
The “mowing”, I think, was a mild snark to the effect that only three people were deceased in the entire state of Tennessee. All of us are having a hard time deciding if we are over-reacting.
See what I mean?
Not meant as a slight…….. at all.
Oh…missed that completely.
Saw the post about TN #s, instantly knew it was way off, so shared accurately and talked about TN, what was happening here and so forth. Did so because a) didn’t want to let such errors stand for others reading down the thread to become misinformed and 2) hat that was the topic and the interest.
After posting TN data, stats and chatting about TN, I was curious about the rest of the comment. Thought maybe he was a media star and it was a well known quote or something. Weather has been was gorgeous yesterday and we were out gardening and beginning our spring haying. Thought maybe it was a Tennessean talking about getting out in the fresh air.
I had No idea it was snark. If it was…would have not have waisted my time with foolishness. Would have just corrected the gross error with links and moved on.
Was the suggestion for me to go back to school also snark? I took it as a compliment at the time. Happy being a housewife and due to husband’s MD/PhD educational background knew what that would actually mean and know I am way to old for all of that but still took it as a compliment.
What a waste of time and waste of blog space.
Lol, it was meant to get outside and relax! Todd is a character in the movie “My Blue Heaven”. When he finally accepts he is in a neighborhood and not NYC, he is in his new yard, mowing, and laughing. The girls and I use the line often when we want a break to head outside. Not meant snarky. Great movie!
Spent a good portion of the day outside (not near Anyone but our own family) gardening yesterday, taking pictures of spring trees in bloom, soaking up the sun, Bible studied outside with son….but thanks for the suggestion
husband in healthcare industry so son is too aware of facts despite Zero network news (actual fear porn v. tough facts) in our house (Zero TV of any sort, for that matter)…been playing extra games and making sure we make good memories during tough time.
Don’t watch most mass media so missed the reference…even tried looking it up.
PS: healthcare industry is not operating based on fear porn/network news. this is a tough situation (regardless where it came from) with Much hope developing
That is exactly the point; it could be everyone’s loss. So, if you could be less preachy and superior about sharing the info, everyone might be more inclined to read it. I, however, am perfectly capable of calculating the actual rates of transmission, death, etc., so it really doesn’t matter to me what you think they are.
funny place to give me a lecture…when I don’t know something I am interested and ask. I want to learn. I read, post and share to Learn. Amazed at some people’s insistence that ignorance is preferable.
In this post, I was just reading along, someone posts some wildly inaccurate numbers about TN so I share correct TN info. And then I didn’t understand the last half of the post so I search, can’t find anything about T. W. so I ask.
Irony that is the post to which you reply that you don’t read or want to learn…in reply to a post in which I am asking questions, wanting to learn and curious about information.
Seriously, I’ve gotten unsolicited advice from you that was “not knowing” in my personal circumstances.
Please, give it a rest. You may not realized it, but it is driving a lot of us up a wall.
then scroll….just like I will now ignore and scroll past various “facts”, fake news, inaccuracies, misuse of info, etc.
I already scroll through lots of funnies that don’t interest me. Same with some topics that are popular. I just scroll…
And I Never thought to:
a) let posts I don’t like upset me, much less drive me up the wall (except for A from O who was mean)
much less b) ask anyone to stop posting because of my personal preferences for focusing on information &/or other topics.
Some asked for information and when it was provided in a form they did not recognize or that did not resonate with them, they did not seem to absorb or even understand.
.Some are making wild statements that are simply not true.
Whatever…shrug….
You mean well, we know, but, please, all is not what it seems.
Ithought your P.S. was was a good point, Maga. I’d like to see Blue Heaven. I think I’d like it.
MM – your consistent position is that everyone is wrong, has wrong numbers but you.
That is a lot for us to believe, considering you were once willing to post a complete fabrication about a fictitious hospital in FL, my state where my daughter is dependent and severely disabled.
We/I embraced and forgave you for this frailty/fallibility and now you have developed a know it all ‘attitude’ that your snippy response to Aubergine exhibits.
Reminds me of that story in the Bible of the man who was forgiven much, but then came down heavy-handed on his fellow servant.
This is a loving community, a forgiving community and a learning community that admits when we are wrong and knows we frequently are.
Right now – as we have seen ALL NUMBERS and projections with this pandemic are unreliable and nothing is written in stone….statistics can be manipulated depending on motives and ideology of persons publishing them.
We must, absolutely must keep calm, respect, honor, encourage, lift up and love one another.
I have given NO projections of numbers other than to say, that yes, this is growing and grow fast.
Careful with what is fiction and what is not. Doubly important for you to deal in the realities of the numbers and what is happening in the hospitals.
I appreciate your willingness to share about your daughter but we Must remember Hippa laws and be careful what we share. Remembering those laws might make an impact on what we share and post.
I have not thought “everyone” was wrong about “everything”.
I have commented on, with much back up data and links to articles explaining, the following:
-proper calculations of death rates are important or we would right now think we had a Much larger death rate than we do (85K cases and 1.3K deaths…that would be a high death rate! but so would misunderstanding the current 1.3K deaths/1.8K recovered)
-making wild statements of 14K cases in TN
-saying that 1/2 of winter hospitalizations in VA are due to seasonal illnesses like flu and misunderstanding flu #s
-others usage of flu numbers … final flu #s include many assumed cases that are not yet built into WuFlu #s. We need to compare apples to apples v. to oranges.
-frequent misunderstanding that all of these reaction is about whatever the current day’s # of cases/deaths from Wuflu happens to be and not understanding that President Trump is making decisions based on where the numbers are going over the next days and weeks. And we need to be aware of what the real issues are v. today’s #s.
I have learned much on all of the above (esp. methodology for surveying flu activity in US) and shared.
Sorry I corrected you numbers form 14,909 to the correct ~1K. Sorry I explained the details happening in TN.
You posted about it so thought you would want to know.
By the way, thanks for the career advice. I saw and answered.
We’re falling into the trap – the trap of look-how-many-signed-this-letter.
How many ‘scientists’ signed a letter saying global warming exists and is an existential threat?
Doctors need to publish their findings and simply care for their patients. If they require hydroxychloroquine, then prescribe it. But let’s not get into the sporting event mindset where the highest score becomes the truth.
Galileo knows all about this.
Not necessarily a trap – depends on situation/motives/people/rationale/evidence behind the signatures.
That being said – Thomas Paine/True Pundit has occasionally ‘disappointed’ as have Cernovich and Posobiec.
Oh yeah – I am well aware of the trap. Nobody is “falling for it” here. But the reason the trap works is that, at the bottom, there is real bait.
What it DOES in fact do, is prove that the opinion (whatever it is) is not merely an outlier, as the other side will allege, but has some actual adherents, willing to go public. There are real people – those signed on – who believe it. At that point it becomes fluffy social influence, but “let all compute what they will”. It’s a form of news.
THE DATA is real. What it means is up for grabs.
One of the best examples was “50 IC big names against Trump”, followed by “60 military big names for Trump”.
The anti-Trump IC letter, and the pro-Trump MIL letter, were EXTREMELY instructive, in terms of WHO believed WHAT. The exact numbers were not so useful, except in the context of the order.
IC struck, and .mil struck BACK. A pattern, as it turned out.
I’m always on the lookout for fake news. Even a trap of our making for the purpose of snookering the enemy is fake news. It’s just ‘good’ fake news.
A side benefit of this whole ongoing coup effort (with its mind-fucks) is that we all get to ‘exercise’ our brains which has been proven to delay onset of / protect against dementia.
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1243438061901365260
Anyone banning hydroxychloroquine should face 100% PERSONAL liability for such action, just as anyone mandating 100% treatment with hydroxychloroquine. Such decisions belong to doctors, and doctors exclusively — any governmental interference with doctors should be regarded with the highest level of scrutiny.
I think it already is personal liability.
Michagan Gov (D) just did.
Any word on New York’s supposed mass effort to treat with hydroxycloroquine?
Do we even know if they actually did so? Supposedly there were going to start on Tuesday.
President talked about it on Hannity during a long interview last night.
Said they’ve been on it for a “day and a half” and “we should know something soon” and “you may hear details before me” and “so far nothing negative”.
I have a feeling the sequestration of talking about HydroxyC has to do with supply. Hospitals and physicians hoarding and prescribing to family and friends. We’re still ramping up on supply.
Every bit of the “anecdotal” evidence suggests that the Trump cocktail works.
Safe to say every physician in the USA knows about it by now.
We now have a supply and distribution problem. If we can get the pills out, we don’t need the ventilators, obviously.
Yep.
I guess no one expected to suddenly need half a billion of them, split and distributed to every hospital.
“so far nothing negative”.
^^^ That in itself IS positive. TDS folks would leak negative in a millisecond.
Patfrederick posted this on the open thread. They have the drugs, but they’re still thinking about who gets what.
Can’t have those positive results for a treatment/cure coming out, now can we? Sickening!
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/clinical-trials-begin-week-york-coronavirus-treatments-health/story?id=69817703
It should come down to: Q) Is the patient about to die? A) Do it. Nothing to lose at this point.
I do recall there is a contraindication on this medicine; people with a certain condition are supposed to avoid it. I just can’t remember what.
I’m attempting to share Michigan data here, fyi
Daily totals:
Posted 3/26/2020
Daily Confirmed COVID-19 Cases by County
County Cases Deaths
Bay 1
Berrien 1
Calhoun 1
Cass 1
Clinton 1
Detroit City 146 3
Eaton 1
Genesee 17 1
Hillsdale 3
Ingham 4
Ionia 2
Isabella 1
Jackson 5
Kalamazoo 5
Kent 5
Lapeer 2
Lenawee 2
Livingston 5
Macomb 66 4
Mecosta 1 1
Missaukee 1
Monroe 3
Montcalm 1
Oakland 125 5
Oceana 1
Ogema 1
Otsego 1
Ottawa 2
Saginaw 1
Shiawassee 1
St. Clair 3
Tuscola 1
Washtenaw 20
Wayne 121 2
Other* 13
Total 564 17
City of Detroit and Wayne County are reported separately.
*MDOC cases
The daily totals are updated each day at 2 p.m., with single day COVID-19 results as of 10 a.m. To view overall totals click on the cumulative data button below.
This info from this link:
https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus
Michigan Cumulative Data:
This information is updated daily at 2 p.m., with COVID-19 results included as of 10 a.m..
Note on cumulative counts: This report is provisional and subject to change. As public health investigations of individual cases continue, there will be corrections to the status and details of referred cases that result in changes to this report.
Note on the deaths: Deaths must be reported by health care providers, medical examiners/coroners, and recorded by local health departments in order to be counted.
Overall Confirmed COVID-19 Cases by County
County Cases Deaths
Allegan 1
Barry 1
Bay 4
Berrien 11
Calhoun 7
Cass 1
Charlevoix 4
Clare 1
Clinton 7
Detroit City 851 15
Eaton 4
Emmet 2
Genesee 63 1
Gladwin 2
Grand Traverse 3
Hillsdale 5
Ingham 22
Ionia 2
Iosco 1
Isabella 3
Jackson 17
Kalamazoo 10
Kalkaska 2
Kent 41 1
Lapeer 3
Leelanau 1
Lenawee 5
Livingston 21 1
Macomb 347 11
Manistee 1
Marquette 1
Mecosta 1 1
Midland 6
Missaukee 1
Monroe 21
Montcalm 3
Muskegon 3
Newaygo 1
Oakland 668 15
Oceana 1
Ogemaw 1
Otsego 7
Ottawa 18
Roscommon 1
Saginaw 10
Sanilac 1
Shiawassee 1
St. Clair 13
Tuscola 2 1
Van Buren 2
Washtenaw 92 3
Wayne 538 11
Wexford 1
Other 13
Out of State 7
Total
2,856
60
City of Detroit and Wayne County are reported separately.
For consistency with previous outbreak reporting methodology, the Michigan Department of Corrections (MDOC) has been added as a separate jurisdiction under the “Other” category. This has resulted in the reclassification of some confirmed cases previously indicated among county case counts.
This data, & further below from this site:
https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163-520743–,00.html
Cumulative Number of Specimens Tested for COVID-19 – Last Updated 3/26/2020 14:00
Lab Type Negative Tests Positive Tests Total Specimens Tested
Commercial 929 40 970
Hospital 5411 1965 7477
Public Health 2822 611 3439
Grand Total 9162 2616 11886
Notes:
This is a new reporting system and additional laboratories will be included over time. Counts of specimens tested positive will not equal number of people with COVID-19. People may have more than one test or may have had their test from an out of state lab.
Total samples tested includes test that were negative, positive, and inconclusive.
Commercial labs only includes data from LabCorp.
Public health labs include the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services Bureau of Laboratories.
Counts represent the total specimens tested, not total patients tested. A patient can have more than one specimen tested, therefore the number of specimens tested may be more than the number of patients tested.
Overall Percentage of Cases by Sex
Sex %
Male 51%
Female 49%
Overall Percentage of Deceased by Sex
Sex %
Male 60%
Female 40%
Percentage of Cases by Age
Age %
0 to 19 years 1%
20 to 29 years 7%
30 to 39 years 12%
40 to 49 years 16%
50 to 59 years 19%
60 to 69 years 21%
70 to 79 years 15%
80+ years 8%
If you go to either of the links I shared the data is visually easier to process in tables…Blessings to all!
Note, the vast majority of cases are in Metro Detroit (Detroit City, Wayne, Oakland, & Macomb Counties) Washtenaw is just West of the Tri-County area in includes Ann Arbor in an expanded Detroit Metro area, fyi.
I think we may have stumbled upon the beginnings of the plot.
From Gab:
https://gab.com/STACKS/posts/103892142360415875
TrueBlueGood reposted
7h
STACKS
@STACKS
Posted in CCP CoronaVirus
A Rockefeller Foundation report produced 10 years ago imagined a viral pandemic as the perfect catalyst to implement “tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership,” eerily similar to what’s unfolding during the current #coronavirus outbreak.
https://www.newswars.com/globalist-think-tank-laid-out-scenario-where-virus-outbreak-prompts-authoritarian-crackdown/
Globalist Think Tank Laid Out Scenario Where Virus Outbreak Prompts Authoritarian Crackdown
Decade-old Rockefeller Foundation report described virus as catalyst for top-down government control
NewsWars
You should probably share this on the daily thread too (if you haven’t already)…it sounds like something from which to springboard an epic wolfen post! As always you continue to amaze…& You Rock! Blessings!!!
Bingo!
Okay, now THAT makes sense, and that the Q team would incorporate it into the plan of exposing media, medicine, and the Democrats all at once would not be too much of a stretch.
Yup. We have seen more MENDACITY by the people who need GITMO-TIME in the last couple of months, than in all the prior hoaxes put together.
And let us not forget that this panic is being fed by the frequent showing on Netflix of “Contagion”.
Who is advising Netflix? Barry and Susan Rice. They’re feeding the panic monster.
Yup. I think BARKY THE CLOWN is signed onto this action BIG TIME.
and we know $0r0$ is connected to the Øbominables, the pandemic and Netflix.
The Little Princess today declared to me for the umpteenth time: I don’t buy the conspiracy theories.
I’m seeing that across the board with friends and family.
Red pilling is going to need to be quick and brutal to get it to stick, IMO.
My favorite post of the day, Wolfie. The Newswars article. Thank you
Here are further notes from Michigan, as I’ve heard/seen so far.
My husband does purchasing at his company for that location & his boss said it was up to him to keep parts coming in to justify keeping employees on the job & not in lay-off. A co-worker went on voluntary lay-off.
Daughter worked her last restaurant kitchen prep shift til likely mid April. She was still given an “essential industry” letter from her manager, perhaps in case she needs to come in (she’s going to keep it in her truck whenever she needs to be on the road, just in case). She said they went from 8 people on a shift to 4 & now to 3. Her work can now be done by a manager apparently. Daughter was already doing the work of a dish tank along with her usual KP duties. This is an eat-in restaurant that did carry out prior to CV issues. They have been using Door Dash for deliveries now too.
Heard on radio the new Chick-Fil-A has created a whole delivery system. They are also offering free food to health care workers.
Serendipitously, daughter just finished training to be a “staff” for her disabled brother. Just like God to provide a way to (partially) make a living working at home & w/ a needy family member. They did their first shift together today & it went very well. There will be many creative options for them even in a Lockdown.
Son’s friend works in a top quality elder care facility w/ all levels of care. He is mostly working from home to protect their residents from contamination as much as possible. He recently moved out of his parents’ (really the church parsonage) home into an apartment & is dealing with a lot of isolation. His parents’ plans to return to the mission field may be delayed by all the CV upheaval, as likely will be the church’s search for a new pastor…
Another friend was pulled over by a cop yesterday & given a $500 ticket for being on the streets without being able to justify his outing (as in not going to/from work or for food). Not sure what community, but this seems excessive.
Husband’s band was going to practice, as usual, in the husband/wife house (guitar/singer) so just drummer & bass (hubs) would travel. As it was the day of the governor’s “stay home stay safe order” they decided not to risk it. At least one planned concert/gig has been postponed or perhaps cancelled.
Husband’s church has already decided to cancel their Easter service, & he’s bummed for he was to play bass…
On a store run to Sam’s club quite a few things were out including Chicken, Ground Beef, & a lot of fruits & veggies, I believe. There was still a decent amount of pork. It wasn’t busy but more like a “ghost town”.
Yesterday 2 sons threw football in street in front of the house & also got dog on a couple of walks. Today kids went to a local park to kick a soccer ball around for fresh air & to get into the community (goals on disabled son’s IPOC, Individual Plan of Service), some thought even being out in our own backyard was illegal…are we under martial law now or do we still have at least some basic freedoms???
Public library is closed til early/mid April depending on developments & nothing is supposed to be due/overdue in that time but an item due “today” couldn’t be renewed so we dropped it off just in case.
Son had the video chat Bible study w/ a few guys last night & though one of the free video chatting services kicked them off part way through they ended up “meeting” for about 1 1/2 hours. He also bought a video gaming system & online service so may play some games remotely with friends, something his older brother can coach him in.
We continue to get mail & Amazon Prime deliveries without issue.
Spoke with parents (79 & 80) & they are doing well at home, though Mom is getting stir crazy. They got to watch church on TV & were even playing cards to pass some time. They don’t want any of us to visit though we’ve offered any help they might need including shopping &/or other errands.
People are going a bit stir crazy here too since this is the time of year we start to come out of hibernation & those with forms of “Seasonal Affective Disorder” really want the doldrums of winter to be gone. Being cooped up doesn’t help when you are inherently “space” people!
Husband has commented that travelling about locally feels strange, like far fewer people are on the roads.
Daughter’s college is likely going to finish the semester online only. She doesn’t know how this might impact her plans to transfer to another local university for the Fall.
Heard on the radio, Rush’s show I think, about a small town in PA (Bloomsburg/bury?) that has all radio stations play the same song at a specific time in the evening & “everybody” goes out on their front porch & dances. It’s supposedly gone viral online & is a big encouragement to the community.
A Detroit police officer died of CV recently (& he was in his 30’s I think) so now all cops will be fever checked before shifts.
Husband’s work is leaving doors open, less touching of door handles, so he hears all the noise from the shop floor (very Loud industrial work) & freezes his butt off all shift. Some co-workers are very paranoid about the disease & work hard at distancing.
Made a crock pot version of 15 Bean Soup from pork chop scraps & stuff around home, practically a free meal, hearty & filling & reasonably well received.
Recently loaded special needs son’s 2 week pill box & added Vitamen C tablets to his morning & evening pill regimen to help him keep up his immunity (he’s the post liver transplant guy on anti-rejection meds). Oh he also asked his girlfriend to marry him, & she said yes, so when all this CV stuff dies down it will be time for some interesting meetings w/ her parents/Mom (her dad is autistic) as she also has special needs, so putting on a wedding, let alone a marriage, between 2 special needs people will be a whole new level of a learning curve–Whee!
A caller to Guy Gordon’s radio show on WJR tried to discuss Dr. Fauci being a “deep stater” & GG cut him off & said he wasn’t going to “allow anyone to peddle that crap around here”. GG was apparently doing his show from home because he was fighting an illness so protecting co-workers.
Tried to watch Trump team’s press briefing today (we don’t have cable) so started on Fox/2 which was showing Fox News’ version, they cut off before Q & A so went to NBC/4 & they cut off about the same time, then to ABC/7 & they went just a bit longer & had discussion w/ Stephanopoulis so went to CBS/62 & they carried some Q & A but when Pence was coming to the mic they ended, PBS channels didn’t carry it at all…
Well, hang in there everybody & God Bless You All. Hope you each stay healthy & engaged & joyful. Blessings
Valerie!!!!!!!!! Congratulations on the engagement!!!! This is good news!! You can handle it, heck you can handle anything!
Thanks for the encouragement! We’re in completely unmapped territory here. Here there be dragons!
❤️ ⭐☀️ to you – you deserve a 😎 🏆 👑!!!
Oh my no…more like my whole family & in recent years I am the least of these in so many domains (not size however unfortunately!) Thanks so much & blessings. I very much appreciate so much of what you share at the Q-Tree! 🙂
As one PHD Nurse at FSU said one time, when the patient gets a diagnosis of ____ disease – the whole family gets it!
Well, that’s certainly true Is Spades around here.
Ironically my undergrad degree was pre-med but I got so burned out on science (which I love) that I wanted to take a side jaunt in another arena & “have my own life”…so just a few years later I get “the most complicated kid” (ever seen in a number of medical practices) ultimately have “no life” of my own any more & have to develop near MD level of specialized knowledge on his various issues…of course with no pay & practically no sleep!
Hand of God.
You know the expression, “God never gives you more than you can handle”?
Well, by the time Gunner was born, I was convinced I was going to have a physically/mentally challenged child….. because I was the kind of person who would have been “okay” with it.
Well……
What I wasn’t prepared for was the ultra-independent child.
Dear Lord does have a way of making us humble.
“Dear Lord does have a way of making us humble.” AMEN!
I actually never had even contemplated the disability angle of life before…it’s been quite the wild ride & a completely different universe from where both my husband & I have come from.
What a blessing to have Gunner be such an amazing person (based on what you’ve shared here). In addition to his hard wiring (nature) the way You raised him (nurture) has given him the wings, wisdom, wit, & wherewithal to soar to unimaginable heights…& by the time this life is spent he may even find a way to eclipse your own amazing & extraordinary life, as if that were even humanly possible!
HUG!!!
Back atcha!
One has only to go to your blog and see the heroism and beauty of your soul!
Thanks, GA/FL you brought tears to my eyes here. I couldn’t be here or blogging at all if I wasn’t so beat up by the life I’ve lead that at times I can still barely get out of bed, let alone out the door. Getting on WordPress initially was purely to have an outlet for self-expression for all that’s been carried & needs an occasional place to go…
I used to have an email signature line “hopefully glorifying God in the trials & triumphs of life”. When we look at our 4 kids & how amazing & unique & godly they each are that whatever the cost has been it has All Been Worth It.
WQTH is fellowship for shut-ins, overwhelmed and heatbroken folks.
I am definitely “heatbroken” as one of my favorite summertime phrases is “it’s stinkin’ hot”. My husband pointed out yesterday that the place we met in OK was 93* yesterday…boy am I glad to not be there now!
Interesting how the Q-Tree draws us all in & we’re not dead yet! If we weren’t “shut in” maybe we wouldn’t have the time or perspective to dig so deeply into these important topics that get dissected around here!
God has some type of mission for us wherever we are in life, whatever shape we’re in. PHC showed us how to soar, even as he was fading away from this plane…
We lived in Lawton, OK before AC was invented. I remember dust storms walking home from school….we put a wet rag over the fans trying to cool our apartment.
Yikes, we were in Tulsa. I had a cassette case I left on the dashboard that was turned into plastic ripples by the brutal OK heat.
…and of course, the contagious! :8-)
OAN carries our president’s speeches. CSPAN also, most of the time.
OAN can be accessed at: *https://watchnewslive.tv/one-america-news-network-live without the asterisk.
Pretty frustrating that the Stimulus Bill provides additional funding for both PBS and NPR, yet NPR in Seattle now says they will no longer carry the National Emergency CV Task Force press briefings. SMH.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/25/white-house-npr-stop-coronavirus-task-force-daily-press-briefings/
Thanks Pgroup 👍👍
Thanks so much!!! Though it won’t be on our large screen TV & therefore at least Partially paid attention to by the rest of my Household it will at least be visible. I definitely don’t trust what the MSM/MCM Says about these events vs what I see/hear if I watch/listen myself.
Wow Valerie!! You’ve really got your hands full!! I smiled about the marriage proposal; it’s so sweet. You will figure it out in its own rhythm 💖💖
Well, since you mentioned it, my son actually said he proposed in a text by sending a GIF of some sort that said “will you marry me” & tried to then unsend it. But she said you can’t unsend it because “I already said yes!”
How hilariously autistic, at least the way autism presents in my son!!!
What’s interesting is that since they both have special needs they presumably won’t be able to be financially independent, so we’re anticipating they will likely need to live with one family or another. Currently our son is on SSI (& has been virtually his entire life) & he has been working 3 hours/wk for a few months (currently on a CV hiatus) & supposed to bump up to 2-3hr/week shifts…this is no where near sufficient funding to support himself, let alone a wife.
We don’t think she’s ever worked & we don’t think she’s had “services” like our son does (w/ respite care & “community living supports” staffing). Now that our daughter can be a staff for our son IF her family decides to pursue that type of support for her perhaps our daughter could assist her too, maybe making such a transition easier & giving the families a way to be more on top of the needs they may have as a couple going forward.
It’s going to be so interesting, any marriage scenario is, but this one is likely more complex than most. There is a multi-ethnic side to her family so we may end up tripping over each other culturally accidentally. Thankfully we’re all strong Christians so we’re just talking about uniting 2 different branches of God’s family! What a huge blessing. Just like God, making love out of nothing at all! No one could have guessed from our family constellation that the second kid to approach marriage would be our very complicated special needs son!
That is truly lovely and inspiring, Valerie. You all are doing many things right to inspire enough hope in your son and his fiancee to believe in their future together. God Bless you for caring so well for your brood.
Thanks Alison. We’ve been making people who are definitely more part of the solution than the problem around here. Seeing how well Josiah is doing is truly an overwhelming Joy!
Menagerie, from CTH & Stella’s Place, saw some of what he’d written & brought him to the attention of a number of Treepers a few years back & he ended up getting some online prayer support from “perfect strangers” who are also brothers & sisters of the heart & soul!
God is so good & it is such a blessing to see how far he has come from those early days when professionals opined that he’d “never walk nor talk, never read nor write”…”with man this is impossible, but with God All things are possible”!!!
Regarding that “send unsend” proposal, we’ve had a few similar funny stories such that “a deal’s a deal” is a phrase that always elicits chuckles in our marriage 🤓❤️
Now that’s quite intriguing…what interesting stories you could tell! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Our son talked with her parents & “asked” them (or at least the mom) before proposing…but he never had those talks with Us beforehand. However, given the nature of his conversations recently it certainly clearly was on his mind.
He’d actually bought her a ring, just to give to her (since he’s had an income & a girlfriend we were amazed to discover just how much of a “giver” he is)…but maybe in his mind he wanted it for engagement (which he actually kept to himself–something which almost Never happens in any domain with him)…
Anyway, with the CV restrictions around here they haven’t been able to see each other in person very much. The other day they (girlfriend driven by her mother) stopped by our driveway to give him a cloth mask they’d made for him & he gave her the ring without fanfare…I think they might be using it for an engagement ring because she loves it so much…interesting times.
Oh Valerie, it all sounds just so dear!! From your wonderful son and fiancee to your special family!!! I hope you keep us in the loop with the planing! 🙂
Well I’ll try to drop a note from time to time as things progress. In know she said she wanted to have a “candy bar” at the wedding…not sure exactly what that means…Oh & Josiah asked his twin brother to be his best man!
Excellent!! Aww!! One of my kids had a ice-cream parlour thing at dessert. They scooped out the ice-cream and chatted with everyone as people fixed up their sundays. Josiah is such a fine young man( remember him from OT prayer), how nice he asked his brother to stand up with him!
That’s so sweet (multiple layers of meaning) 🙂
Oh & from previous comments he’s made he wants to dress up like Darth Vader to walk down the aisle…I’m thinking that plan will get a pass! It’s going to be interesting, random, & fun!
It will be unique and so special!!! What a blessing!
Amen, Foxie 🙂
First the Kentucky Derby and now the baseball season. This is getting depressing. (Sigh)
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Baseball stadiums across the country are DESERTED on opening day as the coronavirus postpones the season
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8158365/AP-PHOTOS-Stadiums-deserted-virus-postpones-opening-day.html
POTUS always ASSIGNS ownership where it rightfully belongs.
Governors now OWN the ChiComVirus SOLUTIONS for their States, including
• Testing
• Quarantines
• Treatment
• RECOVERY from INFECTION [No Hydroxychloroquine, SLOW Recovery]
• RESTARTING their ECONOMIES [Delayed Restart, DEPARTING Businesses]
Demo☭rats are desperately trying to trigger POTUS to “violate” the 10th Amendment for an October SCAMpeachment attempt. Will NEVER work.
Latest trigger-pulls come from Demo☭rat Governors (NV, MI, etc.) threatening-to-intimidate doctors and pharmacies who might prescribe Hydroxychloroquine to hasten ChiComVirus recovery and thwart its spread … in Demo☭rats’ attempt to drive economic ruin into the 2020 Election.
BOOMERANG IMPLICATION: This will create HOTSPOT COUNTIES in Demo☭rat States.
POTUS for the WIN: His letter to Governors reveals his War-on-ChiComVirus Team will be designating COUNTIES-at-RISK (Low-Medium-HIGH).
Demo☭rats for the LOSS: Hotspots drive ISOLATION!
• PARIAH States: Rhode Island is setting up Border Checkpoints!
• PARIAH Counties: Neighboring Counties will do the same!
• PARIAH State & County Leaders LOSE in the 2020 Election.
This post is important, gang. MAGA implications as we head toward the elections. Thanks, BlackKnight.
We are a Republic. This should be handled by the states with the feds providing support. Then the states pass the authorities and assets to the counties. Own your part in this scam, leftists. The more the Republic method is enforced, the more momentum that can be built for the Convention of States and the will of We the People to throttle the federal monster.
I have Loved this approach from President Trump! He is assigning back responsibility to the states. Fully prepared to help, issuing guidance but insisting they take responsibility, leadership and management of their own states. Excellent! Keeping the balance between fed/state gov in this time of crisis and actually this crisis may be a watershed for changing the balance back toward states rights and a blue print for other fed gov operations to use. Good!
President Trump is HOMESCHOOLING the Nation.
“No Hydroxychloroquine, SLOW Recovery”
AND, moar deaths, damaged lungs… = Pissed OFF citizens the guvs screwed them over for politics.
“….for politics – and kickback$$$$$!!!”
BKR said: “Demo☭rats are desperately trying to trigger POTUS to “violate” the 10th Amendment for an October SCAMpeachment attempt. Will NEVER work.”
That’s a very interesting possibility I never considered. Is there anything that we could use to back it up?
My view on this was that triggering the China Virus storm was designed to do exactly what Wolf was describing above, N.B. his addition of the Rockefeller Foundation report from a decade back. Trigger a massive tightening of government control and authoritarian leadership.
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/27/20200327-coronacrisis-china-crisis-daily-thread-dear-congress-please-get-your-act-together/comment-page-1/#comment-442790
In short, a major event designed in part of OVERWHELM POTUS, and entrap him in WRONG or COUNTER-CONSERVATIVE responses.
[Going to avoid using the FEAR word “pandemic” that the WHO promoted and push it back to “China Virus” or “Coronavirus”]
This is the plot that worked with George W. Bush, not once, but TWICE:
* After 9/11 W. “threw out” his domestic agenda, new agenda
* In the subprime mortgage crisis in Sep 2008, W. again threw out all his conventional thinking on fiscal discipline in the face of a crisis
Basically, it’s like seeing a massive battle fleet approaching, and your commander decides the best way to counter the threat is to kamikaze the enemy with every one of your own battleships! No strategy to speak of and guaranteed losses of at least 1 for 1.
If you are right on the 10th amendment thing, they’ve put Trump in a position where if he OVERREACHES it’s a win-win for them.
Scenario: Trump overreaches his power, and is taken to court by the governors:
* TRUMP WINS IN COURT: Basically, this TRASHES the 10th amendment and rips it from the Constitution. The leftists lose a short term battle but win a long term strategic WAR objective
* TRUMP LOSES IN COURT: Kneecaps Trump badly and sets up path to impeachment. Media portrays him as the authoritarian dictator. They will either get him in the Senate or get him in the Nov 3rd election. Barring that, they will use the court case as precedent to challenge and tie him up in court on everything else that they can – ironically, the LEFT will be leading the charge against the Executive branch overreach!
Either way, the OVERREACH scenario is a win for leftists for another key objective: MORE CONTROL, more power centralized. They may loath Trump but they don’t loath power – they’re just mad that it isn’t their guy in the White House, period.
They weren’t quite prepared for the scenario where TRUMP DOES NOT OVERREACH. While it was a logical possibility, I cannot think of a SINGLE situation in U.S. history where there is an existing precedent for NOT overreaching during a crisis. Maybe someone can assist.
However, they do have a blue-left alliance of governors who are ready to create trouble for the President and blow it back on him for NOT DOING enough.
Scenario: Trump does not overreach his power
* GOVERNORS BLAME TRUMP: This is the origin of the “Trump’s Katrina” or “Trump’s Chernobyl” narrative, that started even before the China Virus issue was really on the upswing. The idea is that “Trump is not doing enough to help the states”. Another win/win for them: Trump either abuses power or he fails the states.
* GOVERNORS WORK WITH TRUMP: They were NOT prepared for this scenario. They have no plan in place for this. Trump has given the governors exactly what they’ve asked for. He’s seized the initiative to be proactive with them, highly engaged, and advances constantly in terms of problem solving. Even Newsom and Cuomo are knocked back on their heels. Cuomo tried to trap Trump on ventilators and got swatted big time. Newsom will try something similar but right now he is stuck in OWNING the mess they’ve made in Cali and if he has a real problem, Trump will be out in front to solve it. Radical public transparency has made it impossible to defeat the Trump.
It’s like the 1980 USA hockey team. Trump has taken their game and shoved it back in their face. The Soviets have been the best team in the world and they have no idea what to do. THEY LOSE.
The blue-left political establishment is now grabbing at anything they can think of to stall what’s coming via state/local actions:
* Unconstitutional power grabs
* Shelter-in-place orders
* Policing and Big-Brother surveillance
* Orders blocking therapeutics and medical assistance – will NOT go well with voters
* Trying to KILL small business and local economics – ECONOMIC KAMIKAZES
* Local disruption of supply chains through stupid interference: Orders on when restaurants and bars can operate, when Grocery Stores can operation, how people CAN and CAN NOT shop in the store to limit total access to the store, requiring stores to have onerous cleaning regimens, etc etc etc.
* Limit all travel, whether automotive, airline, foot travel, of whatever kind wherever possible. Including closing municipal airports, setting up checkpoints, policing for people walking/biking, etc.
* STREEEEETCH out the length and duration of lock down orders as long as possible . . . for the economic phase, since political weaponization failed . . .
That leaves their next hope: Economic Sabotage (which I laid out in a separate post)
* Small businesses, especially restaurants and retail, take a huge hit and die
* Massive ILLIQUIDITY, huge economic destruction, toxic financial contagion
* People laid off, furlowed – huge job losses, massive unemployment claims
* CEOs and BIG BUSINESSES intentionally sabotaging their own companies to build narrative
* Media “reporting” on the massive financial crisis
* +MORE
* STRIKE at the heart of the Trump economic narrative
So Michael, this is sort of a follow-up to wolfie’s, is part two of my vote for favorite post. Well, I messed this up, but think you’ll understand. Now I need to read your post six more times to take it all in, including alll the implications. Brilliant.
BKR started it this time 😉 I’ve been thinking through a lot of different aspects from our 4GW discussion. There’s such a flood of information right now it’s impossible to keep up. That, and I’m recovering from a sleep deficit. It makes it hard to get my thoughts down.
TRUMP SCENARIO: Hydroxychloroquine and Monoclonal Antibodies cure people quickly, eliminating both the speed-of-contagion and the drain on the Healthcare System (facilities, beds, ventilators, equipment, labs, docs, nurses, etc., otherwise pulled from helping other medically-needy people).
“Demo☭rat Governors (NV, MI, etc.) threatening-to-intimidate doctors and pharmacies who might prescribe Hydroxychloroquine to hasten ChiComVirus recovery and thwart its spread … in Demo☭rats’ attempt to drive economic ruin into the 2020 Election.
BOOMERANG IMPLICATION: This will create HOTSPOT COUNTIES in Demo☭rat States.”
Ironically, as you’ve likely seen/heard in the news today is that Michigan is now one of 3 new states claimed to be CV hotspots. I hadn’t heard about MI limiting the quinine options. Do you have a source for that info?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/michigan-man-with-coronavirus-has-near-death-experience-is-saved-by-hydroxychloroquine-z-pak-then-unloads-on-liberal-gov-for-denying-life-saving-drug/
As of yesterday around here, and we’re just going to talk about the little island in the middle of the Metro Area which is only about a third of the population, and a tenth or so of the land mass in two states, these were the numbers I found.
Population STL City & County: roughly 1.2 million
Number of cases between the two: 230 – this may change today
Percentage of population with the bug: .2% ish
Now, that doesn’t include the outlying areas ans surrounding suburban counties where there are no universities, people don’t travel nearly as often, and where the suburbs expanded, but, um, only two people have died. Kansas City’s numbers are a similar rate for a smaller metro (YES! It’s smaller and their barbecue sucks.)
Either we really did flatten the curve with the stay at home orders, or it was massive overkill.
I’m sorry. I shortchanged the population in the city. Make that 1.3 million…and 230 people living on this little island between the great rivers are ill with COVID-19. We have PLENTY of hospital beds for that. More than enough.
Thanks for the info, DPat. Very helpful!
Okay, I take that back on no universities. THere are two regional ones, and some community colleges.
Reporting from the great state of Misery, uh, Missouri is slow today, and it looks like there was a big jump in cases in the county to our west. They, actually, did NOT go on stay at home orders when everyone else did. I think they are now, but will have to confirm that.
Yeah, I’ll stay on this side of the Missouri River, thank you very much. Seriously, there is NO love lost here for the self-righteous cowards that moved out there.
The photo on nurses in garbage bags was a fake. It was staged. One can clearly see the nurses wearing proper PPE underneath their garbage bags.
Statement from MtSinai Hospital in NYC:
This crisis is straining the resources of all New York area hospitals and while we do – and have had – enough protective equipment for our staff, we will all need more in the weeks ahead.
Promotion of FAKE news, to incite panic in the general public is dangerous and misleading. This fake story made it all the way to Zimbabwe. See the story published here: https://zimbabwe-today.com/worker-at-new-york-city-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/
They blame the death of a nurse on the lack of supplies… when in fact, he had severe asthma which was complicated by CoVid.
The nurses also complained about lacking supplies for the PAST YEAR, because people within the hospital tend to hoard them.
Governor Andrew Cuomo also addressed the issue in his daily presser on March 26th, informing the public – Every Hospital in NYC has enough supplies, we’re working on supplies for next week, next month.
Fake story, completely misleading, and it has been used to make America and the Trump Administration appear inept….. and spread all over the world.
So Daughn, wonder where the fake story and pic was first published. Sorry if it is obvious to others, just can’t tell. Wondered about it being in Buzzfeed?
SILVER LINING ALERT!
I know this shelter in place stuff is a pain for everyone, but I am seeing increasing calls from the newly minted home school moms and dads for a ditching of Common Core. If that concept can generate some traction…..
Great news!
I was thinking….. if parents started to actually read the textbooks their kids brought home, they might be surprised.
Also, we may find that a younger urban millennial may finally learn where their food comes from….. Ya’ think?
The latest of the horrified moms actually lives on the other side of the river in one of the smaller towns surrounded by farmland and dairy farms, but yes.
It just cracked me up this morning.
Daughn – here in CO there are NO textbooks. Two g’kids from kindergarten through 10th grade and I have yet to see one textbook. Yes the kids lug around gigantic, heavy backpacks, but they are loaded with spiral notebooks, folders, and planning calendars 🙄 – one per class?
That is how the schools keep us removed from oversight; we have no resources to try to understand what is being taught. At best, the kids bring home 1-2 pieces of paper with problems to work out their convoluted math or to solve word problems that ALWAYS are about Juan & Miguel, the poor migrants, … OR their homework is online multiple choice or googling something.
It has been very difficult to have any input into their learning because we don’t have access to the TEACHING part of the lessons, only the homework sheets. Very very frustrating!
Now that you mention it I find the same thing with my grandkids in Wash. Never a textbook, always papers that are definitely social programming, it’s not even subtle.
Interesting there are no textbooks while kids are under parental oversight, but they get to college where textbooks are an enormous cost; the textbooks are revised annually so used book $$ savings isn’t possible, and the textbook authors are the professors. It’s a real early-indoctrination K-12 followed by huge money-grubbing debt-burden for college students.
It really is total indoctrination. I even remember when they were babies and Builder Bob came on,” Yes we can”, 44’s slogan. Now all the rainbows etc and weird haircuts, or lack of…. It is so different and hard to monitor. I think the only place they can get “correct” info now, not indoctrination is from grandparents.
Indeed, Foxy. The singlemost reason I care about staying alive is to preserve historical truth for them. I hope you and Hoofy are staying healthy. Give him a hug for me ❤️❤️
Me too! Its so so important now. Yes we are hunkered down here trying to stay out of mischief!! I sure will!! I hope all is well with you guys too now you are home! Give DH a hug as well!!
Thanks, sweetheart. Tomorrow is his birthday 💖💖💖
Happy Birthday to your Hubby today!!! I hope you guys find something fun to do to celebrate!!
Thanks, Foxy. We’re gonna see our grandkids, after 3 weeks of staying home. We’ve deemed the visit ESSENTIAL to our health 🤓
Awesome!!! Have a wonderful time!!!
Common core is leftist garbage. Probably on the second term agenda of our VSGPOTUS.
Really? Ya don’t say:
https://twitter.com/FollowQanon/status/1243542580463390720
Would this have anything to do with the Pandeminc bonds issued in 2017 by the World Bank? With an expiration of June 2020? Can’t make money if you don’t have a declared pandemic by WHO within that window, dontchaknow.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/03/11/pandemic-bonds-what-the-whos-declaration-means-for.aspx
Maybe pin Fauci and this to the timeline.
Follow the freakin’ money.
Again.
We can never lose sight of that.
Daughn, here’s some more dots!
POTUS already told FDA to ok off label use. Thanks for this. Gov turning up the heat.
Andrew Cuomo report to the nearest confessional…as if Dolan would hold his feet to the fire on that.
And Michagan Gov (D) just said “Hold my beer”.
FFffffttttttttttt!!!!
Weird silver lining during China virus outbreak……. I think….. maybe….. not sure yet.
Husband took a part-time job at FedEx a few months ago. He’s lost 30lbs from all the walking around he does and feels chipper. He loves it and it keeps him busy. Something earthy, gritty, no responsibility, and originally designed to maybe pay for our health insurance.
He wasn’t looking for a career.
Well, since FedEx is so busy with Corona, he came home yesterday with another promotion.
Not what he intended at the beginning at all, but feels it is more like a duty during this time.
He looked at me yesterday and said, “Babe, we have to make sure the supply chain stays strong….. it’s vitally important.” ………..
Really? Thanks for the news flash, Big T.
And he OWNS that supply chain now, he’s thinking like a General.
OMG.
Created a monster.
Our house is beginning to look like a FEDEX distribution center with all the logo merchandise.
He’s having fun and I am extraordinary proud of him for stepping up.
Let’s see what happens.
Just think…premiums for your guests.
Daughn, that has me grinning ear to ear. For Big T and you. Cream rises to the top, and there’s nothing more rewarding than knowing you are contributing to the well-being of our country. Truly 🇺🇸💖
Let us know when you & Big T want to start shipping us our blueberry muffins… 🥰🥰
When he wants to get back to legal stuff, tell him about the two attorneys who bought a hot dog cart and set it up near the Valley courthouse in Van Nuys. They served up hot dogs of course but also legal advice to anybody with a question. The called it Law Dawgs. If the question was more than 3 minutes to answer, they handed the customer a business card so they could get together later.
Picture Big T in a full apron over a dress shirt and tie, dishing up hot dogs with chili or sauerkraut. Bet he’d take to it like a shorthair pointer to duck hunting.
And I meant that thinking of Big T in an apron.
“shorthair pointer”
definitely misinterpreting this by inadvertently slipping in & curlies… 🙂
https://twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1243384805305155586
France sanctions use of chloroquine for certain patients with coronavirus
https://t.co/nWvKN96ZCP?amp=1
Laura Ingraham is going to have more docs on who are prescribing the chloroquine treatment with great results.
Get out your medical dictionaries. A long read but specifically informative, particularly about the complexities of WuFlu.
Travel Nurse Network-The Gypsie nurse
Local Report: USA
My little sister is a travel nurse and she’s a part of this fb group. She sent me this post. It looks like it’s a public group. Link
I’m a reddit noob so I don’t know how to verify this to the sub rules…but I also found it interesting. Here’s the text-
Repost from another group. Interesting read.
“I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Class of 98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients and this is what I think I know.
Clinical course is predictable. 2-11 days after exposure (day 5 on average) flu like symptoms start. Common are fever, headache, dry cough, myalgias(back pain), nausea without vomiting, abdominal discomfort with some diarrhea, loss of smell, anorexia, fatigue.
Day 5 of symptoms- increased SOB, and bilateral viral pneumonia from direct viral damage to lung parenchyma.
Day 10- Cytokine storm leading to acute ARDS and multiorgan failure. You can literally watch it happen in a matter of hours.
81% mild symptoms, 14% severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, 5% critical.
Patient presentation is varied. Patients are coming in hypoxic (even 75%) without dyspnea. I have seen Covid patients present with encephalopathy, renal failure from dehydration, DKA. I have seen the bilateral interstitial pneumonia on the xray of the asymptomatic shoulder dislocation or on the CT’s of the (respiratory) asymptomatic polytrauma patient. Essentially if they are in my ER, they have it. Seen three positive flu swabs in 2 weeks and all three had Covid 19 as well. Somehow this ***** has told all other disease processes to get out of town.
China reported 15% cardiac involvement. I have seen covid 19 patients present with myocarditis, pericarditis, new onset CHF and new onset atrial fibrillation. I still order a troponin, but no cardiologist will treat no matter what the number in a suspected Covid 19 patient. Even our non covid 19 STEMIs at all of our facilities are getting TPA in the ED and rescue PCI at 60 minutes only if TPA fails.
Diagnostic CXR- bilateral interstitial pneumonia (anecdotally starts most often in the RLL so bilateral on CXR is not required). The hypoxia does not correlate with the CXR findings. Their lungs do not sound bad. Keep your stethoscope in your pocket and evaluate with your eyes and pulse ox.
Labs- WBC low, Lymphocytes low, platelets lower then their normal, Procalcitonin normal in 95% CRP and Ferritin elevated most often. CPK, D-Dimer, LDH, Alk Phos/AST/ALT commonly elevated. Notice D-Dimer- I would be very careful about CT PE these patients for their hypoxia. The patients receiving IV contrast are going into renal failure and on the vent sooner.
Basically, if you have a bilateral pneumonia with normal to low WBC, lymphopenia, normal procalcitonin, elevated CRP and ferritin- you have covid-19 and do not need a nasal swab to tell you that.
A ratio of absolute neutrophil count to absolute lymphocyte count greater than 3.5 may be the highest predictor of poor outcome. the UK is automatically intubating these patients for expected outcomes regardless of their clinical presentation.
An elevated Interleukin-6 (IL6) is an indicator of their cytokine storm. If this is elevated watch these patients closely with both eyes.
Other factors that appear to be predictive of poor outcomes are thrombocytopenia and LFTs 5x upper limit of normal.
Disposition I had never discharged multifocal pneumonia before. Now I personally do it 12-15 times a shift. 2 weeks ago we were admitting anyone who needed supplemental oxygen. Now we are discharging with oxygen if the patient is comfortable and oxygenating above 92% on nasal cannula. We have contracted with a company that sends a paramedic to their home twice daily to check on them and record a pulse ox. We know many of these patients will bounce back but if it saves a bed for a day we have accomplished something. Obviously we are fearful some won’t make it back.
We are a small community hospital. Our 22 bed ICU and now a 4 bed Endoscopy suite are all Covid 19. All of these patients are intubated except one. 75% of our floor beds have been cohorted into covid 19 wards and are full. We are averaging 4 rescue intubations a day on the floor. We now have 9 vented patients in our ER transferred down from the floor after intubation.
Luckily we are part of a larger hospital group. Our main teaching hospital repurposed space to open 50 new Covid 19 ICU beds this past Sunday so these numbers are with significant decompression. Today those 50 beds are full. They are opening 30 more by Friday. But even with the “lockdown”, our AI models are expecting a 200-400% increase in covid 19 patients by 4/4/2020.
Treatment Supportive
worldwide 86% of covid 19 patients that go on a vent die. Seattle reporting 70%. Our hospital has had 5 deaths and one patient who was extubated. Extubation happens on day 10 per the Chinese and day 11 per Seattle.
Plaquenil which has weak ACE2 blockade doesn’t appear to be a savior of any kind in our patient population. Theoretically, it may have some prophylactic properties but so far it is difficult to see the benefit to our hospitalized patients, but we are using it and the studies will tell. With Plaquenil’s potential QT prolongation and liver toxic effects (both particularly problematic in covid 19 patients), I am not longer selectively prescribing this medication as I stated on a previous post.
We are also using Azithromycin, but are intermittently running out of IV.
Do not give these patient’s standard sepsis fluid resuscitation. Be very judicious with the fluids as it hastens their respiratory decompensation. Outside the DKA and renal failure dehydration, leave them dry.
Proning vented patients significantly helps oxygenation. Even self proning the ones on nasal cannula helps.
Vent settings- Usual ARDS stuff, low volume, permissive hypercapnia, etc. Except for Peep of 5 will not do. Start at 14 and you may go up to 25 if needed.
Do not use Bipap- it does not work well and is a significant exposure risk with high levels of aerosolized virus to you and your staff. Even after a cough or sneeze this virus can aerosolize up to 3 hours.
The same goes for nebulizer treatments. Use MDI. you can give 8-10 puffs at one time of an albuterol MDI. Use only if wheezing which isn’t often with covid 19. If you have to give a nebulizer must be in a negative pressure room; and if you can, instruct the patient on how to start it after you leave the room.
Do not use steroids, it makes this worse. Push out to your urgent cares to stop their usual practice of steroid shots for their URI/bronchitis.
We are currently out of Versed, Fentanyl, and intermittently Propofol. Get the dosing of Precedex and Nimbex back in your heads.
One of my colleagues who is a 31 yo old female who graduated residency last may with no health problems and normal BMI is out with the symptoms and an SaO2 of 92%. She will be the first of many.
I PPE best I have. I do wear a MaxAir PAPR the entire shift. I do not take it off to eat or drink during the shift. I undress in the garage and go straight to the shower. My wife and kids fled to her parents outside Hattiesburg. The stress and exposure at work coupled with the isolation at home is trying. But everyone is going through something right now. Everyone is scared; patients and employees. But we are the leaders of that emergency room. Be nice to your nurses and staff. Show by example how to tackle this crisis head on. Good luck to us all.”
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EXCELLENT post, BC!!! Thanks so much!
Great data, thank you.
Moving this valuable narrative to the big thread. Thank you.
Maybe wait a sec.
Sounds like it was written by RT (respiratory therapist) who can read a chart. And rather big paragraph about not using chloroquine. Not confirming or denying that, just reads a little “off”.
“If you have to give a nebulizer must be in a negative pressure room; and if you can, instruct the patient on how to start it after you leave the room.”
Agree with MDI rather than nebulizer, but this does NOT sound like anything an ER Doc would say or do. Am thinking maybe RT LARP.
If I am wrong on this, you know I will apologize. But this smells.
I agree. My antenae went up with no chloroquine.
But other than oxygen, what medications ARE you sending home with your multifocal pneumonia patients? What medications/treatment ARE you using for presenting patients who are Day 1 thru Day 9? You lightly touch on Zithromax, but that is all. What co-morbities do your vent patients have?
Suspicious cat reads this as anti- chloroquine propoganda, for now.
Agreed. And I’m not into medicine other than an observer.
RT would know if patients are sent home on oxygen, but wouldn’t particularly know about what meds are sent. And spent a lot of time on vent settings, bipap, MDI, etc. Easy enough to read labs from the admitted patient charts.
Don’t want to waste more time de-bunking this article. C-SPAN is rocking with 30 sec sound bites. At this rate, they can vote and be out in time for happy hour 🙂
The couch commando asked from the kitchen, What the hell are you watching.
And now, “Why do you insist on watching this crap?”
Hence, the red pill challenge. The people don’t have to the patience…or it just might be the men in my family.
Thanks, Carl. Really helpful.
Even if others here can debunk this – and that is appreciated – it’s good to see the fakes.
If the person’s intent was to wrongfully degrade the efficacy of HCQ, he would have done a much better job than merely saying he hasn’t found it useful, and that the hospital is still using it, and that the studies will tell.
The piece reads to me like an open, honest opinion, recognizing that the hospital is not going along with him and that time will tell. In fact, time will probably very shortly tell.
What do you think the popular baby names will be? DJ?
This is the diocese I’m in.
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Coronavirus On LI: Diocese Cancels All Funerals, Weddings
The new measures from the Catholic church are in response to restrictions on gatherings put in place by the state.
https://patch.com/new-york/rockvillecentre/coronavirus-li-diocese-cancels-all-funerals-weddings
Oh man…..that seems to be the pattern everywhere.
However – it is extreme. Are the priests also stopping blessing the dying?
All the funerals in my old hometown are graveside.
The priest could do a graveside.
I think we have a limit of 20 or so for funerals.
A cousin’s mother in law was buried this week and only immediate family was there. They were pretty devastated, but MIL was a nurse, so they knew she would understand.
Given the numbers in this part of the country, I’m not sure I understand. This is a metro of 2.8-3 million people depending on where the line is drawn and there are about 300 cases spread out among 17 city/county entities. That’s about one tenth of one percent.
Yes, the people here follow(ed) directions. Are we done?
Boss is on the warpath with General Motors CEO – she is so weak.
You get the idea all the messing around is going to backfire on the Dems. The explosion is going to be fun to watch.
Tune in to CSPAN 1 right now.
All hell breaking loose in the House.
Here comes Louie Gohmert.
Interesting that we have to pass this now, because the Dem Senate delayed it for a week.
I spent most of the night looking at this, looking at sunset provisions. He will vote for the bill.
Couple of articles from our regional hospital:
Cleaning – sanitizing – home – https://www.tmhhealthlibrary.org/health-library/story/c7021494-3ac3-4906-a812-5fd81705d208/
Healthy Pandemic Pantry – https://www.tmhhealthlibrary.org/health-library/story/240755a3-552c-4674-836b-737c6bbaee69/
Tips for long distance caregiving – https://www.tmhhealthlibrary.org/health-library/story/f5c668ee-3c12-4e67-98a5-aa729ea2dccc/
Germany to conduct anti-body testing among population
According to information from SPIEGEL, a large study is in preparation in Germany to investigate how many people have already become immune to Covid-19 after undergoing an infection. Those who are immune to the corona virus can probably go back to work and live a normal life. The project has not yet been finally approved, but the researchers hope to be able to test the blood of more than 100,000 subjects for antibodies against the Covid-19 pathogen from April. The test should be repeated at regular intervals to monitor the progress of the pandemic. The scientists want to find out how far Sars-CoV-2 has already spread and how many infected people it actually kills. The results of the study will make it easier to decide when to reopen schools and allow major events. If everything goes according to plan, the first results will be available at the end of April.
Source: https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-grosse-antikoerper-studie-soll-immunitaet-der-deutschen-feststellen-a-c8c64a33-5c0f-4630-bd73-48c17c1bad23?d=1585300132&sara_ecid=soci_upd_wbMbjhOSvViISjc8RPU89NcCvtlFcJ
As virus cases surge, Tokyo governor says lockdown may be only way to stem rise
BY RYUSEI TAKAHASHI
STAFF WRITER
MAR 24, 2020ARTICLE HISTORYPRINTSHARE
Tokyo Gov. Yuriko Koike said Monday that a citywide lockdown may become “the only option left” if various measures fail to prevent an explosive rise in the novel coronavirus in the capital.
“Cities around the world are in lockdown,” Koike said during a news conference Monday. “In Tokyo there is serious concern that clusters of infected individuals will lead to an explosive increase in the number of cases in the city. If that were to happen, we may have no choice but to impose strict isolation measures — a so-called lockdown — to prevent further spread.”
Despite ongoing measures to promote social distancing, as well as school closures and the cancellation of major public events, Tokyo was described as a region “at significant risk of further outbreaks” during a meeting of the government’s expert panel last week. According to an estimate by the health ministry, Tokyo could see upwards of 530 positive cases by April 8.
An additional 17 individuals were confirmed on Tuesday to have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the largest number of cases the city has seen in a single day — breaking the record set just a day earlier.
As of Monday, Tokyo has reported 154 cases of infection and four deaths. Of those that tested positive, 101 were hospitalized, 31 of whom have subsequently been discharged. Koike warned that the next three weeks are critical, as Tokyo could see an “overshoot,” or an explosive increase in cases.
“It goes without saying that Tokyo is the biggest city in Japan and serves as a gathering place for businesses, universities and people from around the world,” the governor said. “Because of this, the city is at great risk of experiencing clusters of infection emerging among youth.”
But it’s impossible to decipher whether the governor is truly considering a citywide lockdown, or simply mentioning such a possibility to frighten people into complying with efforts to prevent the virus from spreading further, said urban planning expert Hiroo Ichikawa.
“Shutting down Tokyo would be a massive ordeal,” he said. “The question is now whether Koike means it and specifically what she has in mind, or if she’s using it as a warning to scare people into taking the pandemic seriously.”
Several cities in northern Italy, parts of New York City and London, as well as countless other places around the world, are experiencing varying degrees of restrictive measures in order to prevent the virus from further spreading. On Tuesday, China lifted its lockdown on Wuhan, the city thought to be the origin of the novel coronavirus, nearly four months after the first cases were reported.
A lockdown in Tokyo would most likely come in phases and begin with the public transportation system, Ichikawa said. While Tokyo Metro and the East Japan Railway Co. are privately owned, they would surely heed Koike’s request if she were to call on them to scale back or shut down traffic, he said.
This would be followed by the prohibition of mass gatherings, Ichikawa went on.
Italy quickly placed several towns under lockdown, going as far as to fine or imprison violators and deploy the military to stand guard. The question arises whether the Tokyo Metropolitan Government or the national government have the authority, or the ability, to enforce such strict rules.
The short answer is no, according to Koju Nagai, a lawyer based in Hyogo Prefecture.
While municipal leaders can request or demand in varying degrees that residents stay indoors or schools temporarily close, they can’t enforce penalties on those who refuse to comply, Nagai said.
Over the weekend, despite Tokyo’s warnings against it, massive crowds gathered in local parks to see the cherry blossoms in full bloom. Countless public events have also been canceled in a bid to avoid mass gatherings during a festive time of the year when young adults graduate from school and start their first jobs.
“It’s unclear if Koike is envisioning a lockdown of the city’s functions or the movement of people,” Ichikawa said. “Hopefully she’ll specify what she meant, and what such an unprecedented decision might entail, in the coming days.”
*https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/24/national/tokyo-governor-urges-cooperation-avoid-city-lockdown/#.Xn0kU9VxU0N
MIGHT be the only solution for extreme hot spots.
Nancy steps to the podium…BATHROOM BREAK!
The woman is lying through her dentures.
Ground report: Nash region…highways have Very light traffic. Many more empty parking lots than last time i drove into town. Good – TN is staying home and slowing the spread. Closed schools in infected areas Very Quickly and rest of state followed suit relatively quickly. I think that helped.
PS: wonder if I post longer because of posting almost exclusively from lap top v. typing into phone? And that I learned typing (v. “keyboarding”) back in the day (remember having to correct multiple sheets of paper when typing in duplicate or triplicate?! Remember the return lever?) and at one point had a wpm in the 90s (not that fast any more but still close) so typing off a post takes a matter of minutes and is no big deal. + I usually already am familiar with the info I am posting so know where to find the links, etc. Longer posts make a different impression? Haven’t converted to twitter/social media short thoughts? Think in essays + long, complete &/or detailed long answers. Or just different personality – I have to purposefully focus on long stories whereas detailed posts long on facts are easy reading. Hmmmm…..mulling this over….
PS – Dr’s office Very dedicated to keeping Everything wiped down and patients separated and staff protected. Good!
Then there was me who once foolishly tried for a job as some type of secretary on a summer break from college. So for the 5 minute typing test I got 11 words/minute w/ 19 mistakes! I’m still waiting on that job offer 🙂
It is always good to have background on the experts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uWriZEC8BQ
Bill has passed the House.
Kevin McCarthy and Nancy are having a love fest.
Ugh.
Have a Pepto or a shot and enjoy the show.
While I was posting the video by Amazing Polly, The Gateway Pundit posted a similar article:
Dr. Fauci Confirms His Friendship with WHO Director General Dr. Tedros, Both Are Connected to the Clinton Foundation in Ethiopia
March 27, 2020, 12:43 pm by Jim Hoft
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/dr-fauci-confirms-his-friendship-with-who-director-general-dr-tedros-both-are-connected-to-the-clinton-foundation-in-ethiopia/
Fauci is falling. Greg Rubini has jury-persuading circumstantial that shows Fauci was either a knowing or unknowing part of the conspiracy. Useful idiot, plotter, or “pretended not to know”. But he was a plot insider, one way or another.
MOAR
https://twitter.com/Geebsvega/status/1242596149556645895
https://twitter.com/danli_wang/status/1242578048857157633
Wow, it’s really all out in plain sight there isn’t it.
I will be blunt – I think even *I* could convince a jury that these guys planned this, and particularly BILL GATES.
The fact that the Gates training advocated SPREADER POLICY is not going to get past a jury, and no experts will talk a jury out of common sense on that score, because other experts will counter them convincingly. I can do a math demo that the Gates policy is WRONG, using the Washington Post’s own simulation. No jury will go their way. NONE.
And this is something REALLY WILD.
Notice that Trump has now DOCUMENTED that the GATES TRAINING WORKED. How did he do it? His pressers where he said – the professionals all told him NOT to impose travel restrictions – which he over-ruled and did anyway. AND it turned out that Trump was right.
The GATES TRAINING IS KEY.
GATES TRIED TO SABOTAGE THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AGAINST THE VIRUS.
BIO-9/11 FAILED.
Virus & National Security:
affects economic security which is national security but also our military preparedness and readiness as the virus spreads among our military and actions taken to prevent spread among our military. Taking precautions so able to meet a national security threat if needed?
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-military-halts-overseas-movement-coronavirus
PRESS BRIEFING – 5 PM TODAY
WH –
Golden State –
Fox 10 –
President Trump moves Warp Speed – Warrior Mode – Pedal to the metal!!!
This is BIG. Diana West never goes out on a ledge that is not SOLID.
https://twitter.com/diana_west_/status/1243619694218817536
🇺🇸 🔔 AMERICA!
Good news: The USNS Mercy has arrived in Los Angeles to serve as a referral hospital for non-coronavirus patients. This will allow shore-based hospitals to focus on treating COVID-19 cases.
Some people are here to show their thanks.
IS THIS WHY the WHO peddled Chinese propaganda?
Wrong link – but here’s another about the Mercy. Can anyone read the signal flags?
STORY: https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=112490
Release Date: 3/27/2020 1:02:00 PM A A A Email this story to a friend Print this story
From Commander, U.S. Third FLEET Public Affairs
LOS ANGELES (NNS) — Military Sealift Command hospital ship USNS Mercy (T-AH 19) arrived in Los Angeles, March 27 to support the nation’s COVID-19 response efforts.
“The men and women of the USNS Mercy and the United States Navy are honored to be here in Los Angeles supporting FEMA, the state of California, county and the city in their ongoing COVID-19 relief efforts,” said Rear Adm. John E. Gumbleton, Commander, Expeditionary Strike Group Three.
While in Los Angeles, the ship will serve as a referral hospital for non-COVID-19 patients currently admitted to shore-based hospitals, and will provide a full spectrum of medical care to include general surgeries, critical care and ward care for adults. This will allow local health professionals to focus on treating COVID-19 patients and for shore-based hospitals to use their Intensive Care Units and ventilators for those patients.
Mercy is a seagoing medical treatment facility that currently has personnel embarked for the Los Angeles mission, including Navy medical and support staff assembled from 22 commands, as well as over 70 civil service mariners.
Mercy’s primary mission is to provide an afloat, mobile, acute surgical medical facility to the U.S. military that is flexible, capable, and uniquely adaptable to support expeditionary warfare. Mercy’s secondary mission is to provide full hospital services to support U.S. disaster relief and humanitarian operations worldwide.
U.S. 3rd Fleet leads naval forces in the Indo-Pacific and provides the realistic, relevant training necessary for an effective global Navy. U.S. 3rd Fleet works in close coordination with U.S. 7th Fleet to provide commanders with capable, ready assets across the spectrum of military operations in the Indo-Pacific.
For more news from Commander, U.S. 3rd Fleet, visit http://www.navy.mil/local/c3f/.
Meanwhile THE USNS COMFORT will steam into NYC harbor on Monday!
https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=112476
White House Photo of the Day:
President Trump and Vice President Pence participate in a video teleconference with Governors on COVID-19 | March 26, 2020
Here’s the link I meant to post above: IS THIS WHY the WHO peddled Chinese propaganda?
Sorry.
WOW. Their HOAX is falling apart.
Le Chimera Chinese Coronavirus is REAL.
The Corona PANIC is FAKE. A HOAX.
Let there be light!!!
Darkness to Light
AMEN!
Assuming I understand the article, effective 1 April, CDC approves HCQ off label for CCV. The slow side of me figures it is already approved, just not cataloged in the CDC system. We know it is being used, as do the Feds. no tantrums by Fed, so it is OK, off label.
Mini tantrums by mini Hitlers (guvs) are counter productive. They really ought to have something more important to focus on.
FTA
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will implement the new specific ICD-10-CM code for COVID-19, U07.1, April 1 rather than Oct. 1 as originally planned, the agency said today. The code is not retroactive, and more guidance on usage will be released later this week. AHA has been in close communication with CDC to move the implementation earlier, and this partially addresses AHA’s March 16 request for the HHS Secretary to immediately implement unique codes for COVID-19 disease, exposure to COVID-19 and screening for the virus.
*https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2020-03-18-new-covid-19-icd-10-cm-code-coming-earlier
Subject: Statement from the President Regarding the Defense Production Act
https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-statement-from-the-president-regarding-the-def-1842531154
Trump got the Defense Production Act moving.
He gave GM a chance to voluntarily do the work. They agreed and confirmed they could do it.
Then they started STALLING. (AS IF Trump has never seen this game before!)
And Trump has dropped the hammer down on them.
They’re going to whine and complain but they brought this DOWN ON THEIR OWN HEADS.
“Don’t let our fear-mongering stop you from dumping our propaganda!”
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all of the news about the crisis, THIS is their top priority? LOL. They’re desperate.
The HELL IT IS!!! If it stays on cardboard for hours, why not fake newsrags???
It probably feasts on fake newsrags! I’ll get my news online, thank you very much.
We just hit 100,000 China Virus infections. Over half that is New York/New Jersey.
President Trump is on now.
Cuomo ~”Hospitals don’t need Ventilators yet”
Reporter asks Cuomo if they have ventilators in storage like Trump said:
“That is incorrect and grossly uninformed.”
Then Says:
“We have ventilators in a stockpile & we didn’t send to the hospitals yet”Thinking face
Pure witch.
https://twitter.com/1776Stonewall/status/1243669828289912832
Get her on OAN, NewsMax or make her the JustTheNews TV anchor!
THE TIME TO START BURYING FAKE NEWS IS *NOW* !!!
This exchange speaks volumes.
Ben White is the Chief Economic Editor for Politico.
Jesse Lee used to be the Senior Advisor and in charge of Comms for Speaker Pelosi, AND Special Assistant to Obama.
Yeah…….. Trump standing and taking questions, slicing and dicing the media, is killing the left…… those who are looking at this pandemic via a political lens.
I’d watch it. It’s better then any movie or TV show they have nowadays.
Annoying Reporter: Can you promise that everyone who needs a ventilator will get one?
POTUS: Don’t be a Cutie Pie…..Wise Guy.
THAT was so wonderful. Our Queens guy Nu Yuah-kah don’t take no crap offa nobody.
LIKE A BOSS!
I can visualize how that Oval Office conversation went down.
I wonder if that conversation was before or after the last conversation with Xi. 😎
Here’s a very interesting graph:
Wonder if marijuana use increases risk of immune system vulnerability and complications in younger people.
Pence – 685,000 tests have been performed
Wow just a wonderful day to be outside. Most everyone was out and about cleaning their back yards.
My neighbor tells me he’s turned off the MSM. He said he’s sick of the BS and that America needs to get back to work asap.
I heard a lot of bouncing basketballs in the ‘hood today.
People are going stir crazy.
Really? Most people were walking around and just cleaning up their yards. A few basketball games but mostly everyone was having a good time. One was doing a BBQ
Yeah, there’s a lot of yard work happening here. Not at my house, but in a number of places.
Here is the famous tweet, NYHealth Officials encourage people to go out and attend a festival in Chinatown. Accuse administration of disinformation on Coronavirus.
This was 10 days AFTER Sec Azar declared a National Health Emergency, and the Trump Admin ordered testing of arrivals from China at NY airports beginning January 21st.
https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1243569351841779712
Commissioner Osiris-bot of the death cult!
Here she is blaming everyone else
She believed the timeline. She believed the ChiComs. She believed the lying head of WHO, puppet of the CCP. Worst of all, she believed the LYING ChiCom-Led Soviet Fake News Media.
The Boy Scout motto is BE PREPARED. But these people denigrated the Boy Scouts, and look where it got them.
My fav is: “Hold on, let me get this straight. The governments’ telling me to sit right here, and do nothing for weeks? That’s the most sense they’ve ever made.”
What’s bad is I do couponing as well so I fully understand.
Sending Breakfast/Lunch to school children during a pandemic is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.
Just because these families are poor, doesn’t mean someone can’t make a peanut butter sandwich.
So, USPS, UPS, and PepsiCo are sending BOXES with 2 weeks worth of food, even to rural families.
So, we’re clogging the delivery system.
Probably with Broccoli that the kids won’t eat.
There are pros and cons. Some kids just don’t have good parents, rich or poor, city or country, north or south, east or west..
Some ‘parents’ will sell the meals for drugs. The kids will still go hungry…for food and love and guidance and stability and safety.
‘course you and I don’t think kids are properly fed with boxed food designed to last two weeks! Yech.
We want their Mama’s to serve fresh vegetables, freshly squeezed orange juice, fresh eggs, vegetable soup, chicken and rice, corn bread, fresh hand shelled butter beans and peas, okra and tomatoes, pecan pie and home made ice cream…. pies and muffins!
The food is going to go to waste if they don’t. I saw some of what is being bused into the neighborhoods. May as well let the kids eat it.
Hey hey hey
Panera Bread is stepping up big time.
Why is Pence wearing a navy blue tie with a black suit?
https://gab.com/AdanSalazar/posts/103897319907590518
Alex Jones reposted
1h
Adan Salazar
Verified Account
@AdanSalazar
Texas Judge: National Guard Troops to Conduct Door-to-door #Coronavirus Checkups – https://www.infowars.com/texas-judge-national-guard-troops-to-conduct-door-to-door-coronavirus-checkups/
Texas Judge: National Guard Troops to Conduct Door-to-door Coronavirus Checkups
Dallas County judge says troops will be on ‘medical mission’ inquiring about contact with coronavirus patients
http://www.infowars.com
3 6 9
Can they do the census while they’re at it?
Yeah – I want them in full battle gear, helmets, goggles, armor when they go around the neighborhoods. Maybe drive a tank or armored troop carrier fan out in platoons!!!
That would be so much fun in neighborhoods with dealers, gangs and illegals!
:8-D
Yeah, I wonder how much of this “medical mission” is about rooting out drug dealers and other scum. Remember folks, we allegedly found Osama bin Laden via a “medical mission” (faux CIA vaccine program).
Honey, it’s called Multi-tasking! Saves taxpayer $$$
Hey, we might even get good numbers!
That’s not a great idea. How many people will those troops come into contact with every day? They could spread it more.
Remember that they are replacing nurses who do the exact same thing – go from house to house to check on patients as part of in home care.
they are no more likely to spread the virus than are the nurses as long as they take the same precautions as the nurses.
this is not a new service, just being shifted to the military to free nurses to cover nursing shortages due to ill nurses and due to increase in patient load.
The troops can get tested every day and rotated, staged, quarantined in a way that the virus can’t get past the inspection team. It’s potentially very smart.
This is good news…Hospital through put is a major issue and strategy.
Everyone is being pushed to the next farthest level to make room for incoming ICU WuFlu patients. Feds have rolled back red tape and regulations specifically for this.
Patients that would normally stay in the hospital are being pushed out early to the skilled care and patients that would normally be in skilled care are being pushed to home/self care that are dependent on visits from home health care workers/nurses.
One of the many challenges with this plan is the sudden surge in demand of patients at home and need for home health care workers and nurses to do the home visits and check on the patients.
This is a solution to help facilitate changes of standards who are going to be at home that might have been in skilled care in normal times.
this is also a working solution to free nurses to be in the hospitals giving skilled care to both meet the increasing demand for nurses as patients surge + help to cover for the increasing number of nurses who are sick themselves with WuFlu. Shortages in nurses and medical care due to increasing medical workers having Wuflu and increasing WuFlu patients.
So glad so much of fed gov and private industry including healthy care companies are forward thinking!
This sounds like cover for some other military operation. “Pay no attention to those men in military gear! They’re nurses! And don’t get too close and try to take pictures or anything because you don’t want to risk getting sick.Just stay at home and don’t investigate, citizen!”
“Medical mission,” my foot.
Shhhh. 😉
Agreed. Like I love to say, “No cover like reality.”
AND logic.
Someday I’ll go back and identify the Sandy Hook researcher who flipped the switch and turned on the lights. I owe that boy a LOT. From there, it was VEGAS where I suddenly realized that there was BS layered on reality.
Once the White Hats knew the virus op was GO and irreversible, the rest of the script wrote itself.
“You’re watching a movie.” YUP.
Should be rather exciting.
Media being media, again.
THIS is why it’s so important to see the whole presser for ourselves and NOT rely on the filter of the media.
Muckin’ fedia!!!
Private industry is really stepping up.
For a virus that is so contagious why do these ‘famous people’ only one spouse who ends up with it but not both. And yet Hanks and his wife both have it????
Based on my own experience, if you THINK you might have it, it changes behavior, and reduces the chance of spousal transmission. I didn’t think I had it, so my wife kept in contact and she got it. She MAY have gotten it before I became symptomatic, but not sure. More likely AFTER I became symptomatic, because she didn’t separate herself from me.
Bwwhahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG, we have the best President, ever.
Now i get it.
Worth every penny of the 25 million dollars.
Trump just appointed 10 members to the Board of Trustees to the Kennedy Center.
Among them, Mike Huckabee and Jon Voight.
Bwahhh-HAaaaa is right. Man – they can’t win with their political games.
OMG
Make Dems cry again!!! LOL
I think somebody just pissed in the gold toilet anti-Trump “art” object!
And those big, beautiful chandeliers in the hall that runs along the one side of the Kennedy Center may well get lowered to the floor and cleaned.
BONUS!
That adds a Very Different perspective to the NY #s. They are not spiking merely due to widespread testing catching mild & non symptomatic cases as some have thought (and I thought was happening in NYC) but are due to more people being really ill. :-0
Good to know many extra ventilators are ready in NYC and 100K more in 100 days. Hope we do not need them.
“Babies are being born with it.”
Uh…what?
😲🤨
Yep, I’ve seen a few of those reports.
http://www.wkyc.com/
Updated 6:14PM March 27, 2020
DR. AMY ACTON, Department of Health Director for OHIO, said this afternoon that the state will have 10,000 new cases of the Wuhan Coronavirus PER DAY by the projected peak in late APRIL. These figures are based on data and projections from the Cleveland Clinic.
700WLW, Cincinnati
Gov. DEWINE of Ohio will call up the National Guard to start building temporary hospitals, in addition to converting hotels and college dorms into hospital rooms.
Wholly fracking shite.
Ok I have kinda held my tongue about Gov Cuomo (well to some extent). I have seen the PCs, I have read as much as I can about what is going on in NYC and I want to offer my point of view. Feel free to disagree, offer additional points ..whatever. I am not an expert just someone interpreting what is going on.
This guy (or guys..DeBlasio too) is messing up completely. In a really bad way and it is affecting the country. Why?
The governor cannot tell you what each hospital needs. He has anecdotal information, He uses projections based on positive testing. He doesn’t even know where his supplies are. Pres Trump embarassed him by providing a photo of ventilators delivered to a warehouse in NJ.
He should be getting/giving a rundown of what each hospital needs on a daily basis. All of them, Every one. Tell us one by one. Then his people should be matching up that with their actual supply chain. The PPEs can be managed effectively with a precise focus on inventory. The ventilators are a different issue. He can’t possibly handle 30,000 ventilators. Not doable. Not enough trained personnel to deal with it. Plus the needs vary from hospital to hospital. That is a panic-stricken projection that they have not thought through.
We need to give him what he needs in a timely way but not dump it on his lap all at once. That jeopardizes the needs of other states. Now Pres Trump is marshalling as many resources as he can get. Even dropped the hammer on that Dem lady who runs GM. But Cuomo/DeBlasio are harming the response that the Feds can give other states.
Cuomo needs to alter his approach to become more granular in his assessments for the public. He needs a superior supply chain management guy. Top notch. Someone who can walk in and help NYC out ASAP. He and DeBlasio need to assign state/local people in every single hospital in the city so they can report accurately. Perhaps cases can be tranferred to other hospitals (probably already thought of but hey).
This blame game is getting tiresome and it is affected the needs of other cities by diverting Federal attention to solving their problems for them.
Basically Cuomo and DeBlasio are in waaaayyy over their heads and they are not smart enough to organize their actions to address their needs effectively in a timely way. I haven’t even touched on their policy decisions or the statements of the people they hired. Their liberal inclinations are biting their ass now and they hired incompetent people. It is affecting the entire nation now.
OK just some thoughts. Fire away. I am sure I got some things wrong but I am frustrated. I am in NY and it is changing what we do even here in upstate NY. I don’t see an end yet. Go easy..I am a novice at this.
^^^AGREE 100%^^^ – wish YOU could get them straightened out….or PDJT could send some people to manage resources. I’ve decided Democrats can’t do or manage or fix diddly squat!!! (southern expression)
Yep. Yep. And Yep.
Cuomo HAS to get a grip on the hospital conditions and manage the inventory. It’s Obvious he has no clue.
AND
That’s why Blasio keeps calling for the Military to take over. He can’t handle it either.
Sad that Dumb and Dumberer are in charge of NY.
The Dems tried to force communism on Trump, and he is forcing AMERICANISM back on them. By putting the responsibility on Cuomo and de Blasio, their PC is now running up against REALITY. Utopian socialism is running out of everybody else’s everything.
Yeah..like understanding what resources you need. Basic concept.
Yup. Just being honest with oneself first, and then with others.
I think Cuomo’s probably not as out to lunch as de Blasio. Maybe he should put the NG in charge of NYC, reporting to him. Do you think people would be OK with that? I sure would.
needs competent ppl fast
Yes. No time for messing around.
Time to call Rudy’s team, asap.
Yeah, I was thinking that RUDY has PROVEN that he can run the city which de Blasio cannot.
NYC Health commissioner
More. Can you tell I am upset? Feb 7th
NYGuy….I think you are pretty much on target.
From what I’ve read, voter turnout in NYC is so low it is why people like AOC can get elected with something like 16,000 voters….and it’s equally bad for important offices like Mayor. And, that’s not even addressing the corruption and fraud of the unions.
So, in some respects if you elect incompetent politicians who are in it for the money how an you expect them to actually run a city in a crisis? It’s a parallel situation to the hurricane in Puerto Rico.
Isn’t it ironic that all the former “jewels” … the glamorous paradise of Los Angeles, the uniqueness of San Francisco, where everyone left their hearts…and the center of the world with the lights of Broadway, the Big Apple….have become rotting, empty shells…going the way of Detroit and Chicago. And the apathy of the citizens just allowed it to happen.
Why would anyone go there now…they have nothing to positive to offer. JMO
Wut?????
Wowwwwwwww, 5 minute test
Oh that will freak Cuomo out. He will be asking for 250,000 ventilators.
We need more stuff just like this. The media refuses to do it.
https://twitter.com/dailydigger19/status/1243652125315522561?s=20
France is not and may never have been a well-run country. They’ve got the EU problem, the leftist Macron problem, the Antifa posing as yellow vests problem, the influx of Islamists problem. They’ve got rapes, car burnings, high taxes…. lots of over-burdened, unhappy unsafe people!
NYPD hit hard.
https://twitter.com/dailydigger19/status/1243565356326817794?s=20
NY is suffering from stage 4 Democratitus with secondary incompetence syndrome.
FL/GA CORONAVIRUS REPORT/COMPARISON:
FL TESTS
3/26/20
28,644 tests
24,553 negative
2,359 positive
3/27 AM
32,468 tests
28,186 negative
2,765 positive
3/27 PM
33,822 tests
30,766 negative
3,054 positive
GA TESTS
3/27 AM
Lab – Positive Tests – Total Tests
Commercial Lab – 1739 – 8119
GPHL – 263 – 1746
3/27 PM
Commercial Lab – 1933 – 8119
GPHL – 265 – 1746
FL/GA STATISTICS + Counties where I have family members.
3/23/20 – MONDAY
FL – 18 deaths – 1412 cases – 194 hospitalizations – Leon 7 – Suwannee 0
GA – 32 deaths – 1026 cases – ? hospitalizations – Lowndes 10
3/27/20 – FRIDAY PM
FL – 46 deaths – 3,198 cases – 503 hospitalizations – Leon 12 – Suwannee 1
GA – 65 deaths – 2,198 cases – 607 hospitalizations – Lowndes 20 cases/1 death
LINKS
FLORIDA – updates 12 pm/7 pm – https://floridahealthcovid19.gov
GEORGIA – updates 12 pm/7 pm – https://dph.georgia.gov/georgia-department-public-health-covid-19-daily-status-report
Something is screwy about the GA test numbers. Either they were in Friday mode, not doing much today or it’s a typo…or bad reporting.
Are those totals Accumulative?
As in, new test numbers added to the previous totals.
Or are they totals of New tests…in addition to the other totals?
Yes, they are accumulative – totals of all tests.
Notice also – GA has more deaths per case than FL. Disturbing to me.
Thanks, GA/FL.
I figured that was probably the case…but wanted to make sure.
Florida has gone all out on their CCV website – revamping it frequently to offer better data, clarity, visual impact. Florida has a great disaster pages, etc. I guess we are more geared to disasters with the hurricanes and more interested in protecting our elders.
GA is stingy with its one page…and refused to give information re: travel because of ‘stigma’ and PC.
OMG
Very haute art….a happening.
So many symbolisms and metaphors, every kind, every level.
It’s just perfect that he’s Asian….and the beer is Corona.
A Chinese sword would have been a nice touch, but the chopsticks are good. It needs a bat.
He’s more of a swine flu persona, don’t you think, with the short nose, rounded face and body.
NOT LYING: China sues US in Chinese courts to affix blame on the US. This is the world-wide propaganda campaign to raise their influence in third-world allies and degrade US
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/27/chinese-lawyers-sue-america-on-conspiracy-theory-virus-came-from-u-s/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20200327&utm_content=Final
The best defense is a good offense, they must think.
Fake Outrage.
The ChiComs are following the commie play book.
They are trying to bolster their ridiculous lies with Fake Outrage.
We have class actions going against them in TX and FL.
Please! More detail! Private or DOJ? Lawyers etc. Thanks!
Larry Klayman with Judicial Watch filed a $20 trillion suit in Texas, everyone can join. Also saw tweets of other lawyers in FL.
Important
Another study from same guy in France.
80 patients this time.
It’s well past the time to get truckloads of HCQ and Z-Paks out to at least everyone who is in the serious or critical WuFlu categories . . . then work down from there with the available doses.
Will be a HUGE game changer for hospital saturation which is an issue that brings its own crisis. reduce hospital stays and reduce length of those who are admitted. medical stay begin to take as a prevented would be a huge game changer for understaffing due to illness/medical staff becoming contaminated.
impact on need for new meds and vaccine – Huge
So excited about this
https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/1243709746462330881
The ChiComs operate the biggest Troll Farms on the planet.
I’ve seen bootlegged pics of rooms full of iPhones mounted on cubicle walls…with each person operating dozens iPhones, posting the prescribed propaganda online.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/26/de-blasio-wont-release-key-coronavirus-stats-despite-promises-of-transparency/
He’s going to undermine Cuomo. Cuomo needs to sack his shit NOW and put the NG in charge!
POTUS activated 2 levels of NG reserves today.
According to worldometers, the U.S. now has 2,463 serious and critical cases of the WuFlu in the country. If I remember reading correctly, you would be classified as serious if you need supplemental oxygen. About 1/3 of the total serious and critical cases need mechanical ventilation. That would be 821 cases that need mechanical ventilation in the U.S.
New York currently has about 43% of the active WuFlu cases in the country. Assuming an even distribution of the cases across the country, then New York currently needs about 343 ventilators. Naturally they need to have a safety margin, and the number of ventilators needed by NY is growing rapidly.
So they don’t need an emergency drop of 30,000 to 40,000 ventilators. They have a certain number in use now, and 2,000 more should keep them going for, maybe, 12 days at the present growth rate of about 15%.
That’s not much time, so more ventilators will be needed very shortly if that growth rate continues, reaching 30,000 ventilators in about 32 days . . . again, if that growth rate continues and ignoring any ventilators that may be freed up by the recovery or death of the user.
The bottom line is that if the WuFlu continues to grow across the country at anything near a 15% growth rate, we will, indeed, needs lots of ventilators quickly.
Yep, tsunami is coming and the hospitals and President Trump see it – hence all of the drastic actions of the last weeks to do their best to prepare. We are SO Blessed to have President Trump as POTUS right now as NO ONE else could have accomplished what he has!
Cuomo admitting he doesn’t need 30,000 ventilators yet. They are a projection
Hey look, the article I posted here a few days ago was found by the Daily Caller (sorry for posting so much, I’ll stop).
https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/27/flashback-scientists-bats-chinese-wet-markets-pandemic-2013/
Tell you what. We’ll let you post as much as you want if you’ll lay some Katz’s pastrami on us. Deal?
My favorite. Could use some now.
I was carried away by the thought and the moment, so . . .
I just ordered 3 pounds of juicy pastrami, a jar of deli mustard and a loaf of rye bread shipped out.
Sorry, I’m drooling on the keyboard.
http://www.foodsmackdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/katzs-delicatessen-new-york-katzs-pastrami-sandwich-inside-610×407.jpg
NYGuy keep posting 🙂
There is no such thing as “posting too much’, NYGuy.
So you just go right ahead and post as much as you want to!
😄🤗👍
Hannity- Dr. Oz reporting 1) New test just approved can have results in 5 minutes. Up to 5million tests/day can be used to track virus. 2) French Dr. did larger study using hydroxychloroquine and zpac, 79 out of 80 patients recovered. Also helps to shed virus quicker. 3) Plasma test on ICU patients, 5 of 5 recovered.
6) NY chloroquine trial being done on 250 patients, don’t expect results for a few weeks. 7) Lots of Medical staff taking chloroquine as prevention to keep from getting virus. The NY guy in scrubs who did video calling it Biblical was on Tucker and admitted taking for prevention.
Some of the gov orders re prescribing meds was aimed at stockpiling for use as a preventative.
but this also means a preventative was known …. grrrr…..
But cutting the length of stay in the hospital will Change Everything!
>>Statistics Alert<<
…just scroll if you don't like stats….
Question: Serious cases are listed as ~2,500 in the US as of right now on the site WP hates.
But there are more than 2,500 hospitalized…rightt?
503 listed as hospitalized FL as of tonight…or is that were hospitalized at any time and includes “resolved” cases that have passed away or ongoing cases but those well enough to be discharged to home care? Confused and wish I had better data.
I have been playing with #s for the last hour and hospital saturation is one of the top concerns in this pandemic and to avoid becoming an Italy…anyone else hospitalization rates v. "serious" cases? Are the "serious cases" on the site that shall not be named accurate?
A very good thing they are taking it. I believe that lung damage like mine can be PREVENTED that way.
My first symptom was light-headedness, which I now believe may have been from shortness of breath. So GETTING AHEAD OF THE VIRUS IS CRITICAL.
“Lots of Medical staff taking chloroquine as prevention to keep from getting virus” This alone could explain why more is not being done with patients. Until supply exceeds medical staff’s extended needs the sick are going to be denied? Question then becomes who is medical staff and what more is being hoarded for whom? Example does some mayor or city official want it for his police, fire, ambulance, personal staff or personal use? Where would it stop. The right answer should be it goes straight to the sick and only the sick, not the maybe sick.
If this type of hoarding is suspected then they should radio tag the packaging and see where it’s going (sitting actually, held in reserve at someones home?)
https://www.foxnews.com/health/nashville-woman-21-regrets-coronavirus-video-after-falling-ill-herself-report
People fighting back in China? Oh my.
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/27/massive-protest-breaks-out-in-chinas-hubei-province-ground-zero-for-the-coronavirus/
WOW.
People are talking back to the FAKE NEWS, and it’s GLORIOUS!!!
https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1243741866631335936
Having public and private school children at home during the shutdown is Not “homeschooling”. They may be at home and they may be doing some homework/schoolwork but not the same.
We can’t do our usual homeschooling either during the shutdown/quarantine and we homeschool full time!
Remember Fe? Wonderful tweet!
https://twitter.com/wrigsmom/status/1243744071736348673