Unlike the full House Judiciary Committee three ring circus yesterday, finding ANY information about today’s hearing featuring that committee’s sub-committee (how many committees do these people run?) on Anti-Trust took some digging.
Essentially, at noon eastern, the heads of Twitter, Amazon, Google and Facebook will be questioned by a subset of the full Judiciary Committee. This little pow wow will be happening via video conference due to COVID hysteria, so, unlike the outrageous treatment of Attorney General William Barr, there will be no glaring lights on the witnesses, and humanitarian breaks at the witnesses’ leisure since they will be in the comfort of their own surroundings.
Oh, yeah, that’s fair.
So, who is involved in today’s Q&A where the person being examined presumably will be able to spew their propaganda at will?
Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook)
Sundar Pichai (Google)
Tim Cook (Apple)
Jeff Bezos (Amazon)
The subcommittee welcomes Bezos for the first time, who also owns the Washington Post.
The topic today is are these online entities too big. Not the censorship issue that is sure to come up since there’s been so much of it in the last week, but should these platforms be broken up since they have so much power.
As if those four men are going to be forthcoming about that.
Who is doing the questioning?
| Majority | Minority |
|---|---|
| David Cicilline, Rhode Island, Chair Hank Johnson, Georgia Jamie Raskin, Maryland Pramila Jayapal, Washington Val Demings, Florida Mary Gay Scanlon, Pennsylvania Joe Neguse, Colorado Lucy McBath, Georgia | Jim Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin, Ranking Member Matt Gaetz, Florida Ken Buck, Colorado Kelly Armstrong, North Dakota Greg Steube, Florida |
| Ex officio | |
| Jerrold Nadler, New York | Doug Collins, Georgia |
Oh, good Lord. Rep. “Guam might tip over” again. And that McBath woman.
Well, at least we have Matt Gaetz.
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This will be a fawning effort to inoculate big tech from anti trust investigations…
Well, we know they aren’t staying at the Trump Hotel DC.
Not sure if I can endure another day of Dem-agoguery, but I’ll try.
I think you have coined a wonderful word for the DIMs… 😉
I kinda liked it. 😁😁😁
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IN ADVANCE – Press Secretary issues the Trump White House Statement:
** Statement from the Press Secretary Regarding the Implementation of President Trump’s Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship
“On Monday, the Department of Commerce, as directed by President Donald J. Trump’s Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship, filed a petition to clarify the scope of Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act. The petition requests that the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) clarify that Section 230 does not permit social media companies that alter or editorialize users’ speech to escape civil liability. The petition also requests that the FCC clarify when an online platform curates content in “good faith,” and requests transparency requirements on their moderation practices, similar to requirements imposed on broadband service providers under Title I of the Communications Act. President Trump will continue to fight back against unfair, un-American, and politically biased censorship of Americans online.”
https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-statement-from-the-press-secretary-regarding-t-1844541698
You can bet your britches PDJT won’t back down on this!!!
President Trump will be boarding Marine One/Air Force One heading to TEXAS.
Look for some devastating tweets en route!
Yes they are too big, yes the cee aye a is involved, yes they are traitors, yes antitrust should break them all up!!!!!
There is a SIMPLER solution, PULL their access to GOVT owned internet. DE PLATFORM THEM, like they did to conservatives. See below.
Deplatform the deplatformers? I love it!
“Sauce for the goose Captain” (to Quote Mr Spok in the original Wrath of Kahn)
There are enough sub-committees, it seems, that addressing a random majority-party Member as “Mr. (or Mrs/Miss/Ms) Chairman” is more likely to be right than wrong.
In 1994, when the House flipped Republican for the first time since the Pleistocene, I was at a victory party, and our local congresscritter (R) was in attendance. He had been about as effective in Congress as any minority party member was, and had only been in the house for about six years, but I congratulated him on his new committee chairmanship. He just laughed, as if he didn’t think it could possibly happen.
And sure enough he got one.
My congress critter has been there since the 1990s, and I don’t even know if he’s on any committees. He’s rarely seen.
Yes that hearing will be SUPPRESSED so as to avoid any public sunlight should one of them slip up. My question WHERE THE F is Lindsey Graham? Why is HE not questioning anybody in the Senate?
OK, enough with HIM and his committee. We have OTHER Senate committees like the ones that handle finance and anti-trust. Section 230 should be REVOKED NOW. Then let them ALL sue, they CAN”T know why? Because THEN they have to present EVIDENCE on BOTH sides. AH, SUNLIGHT.
Hell We should do it SO they would stupidly SUE. THEN we can have ALL sorts of “fun” watching them try and DEFEND themselves against the charges and EVIDENCE the FCC has, as well as others. We can have ALL sorts of witnesses from GP, Breitbart, Don Jr, Praying Medic, and TONS of other conservatives CENSORED and flat out de-platformed.
Let them EXPLAIN and SHOW how they are NOT censoring, lets SEE the algorithm! Lets call Google techs and supervisors along with Twitter and Facebook “mods” LETS ASK THEM. Are you under ORDERS for this censorship? WHOSE orders? HOW is it done? WHY? How come it is SO one sided. IS it BECAUSE of the election? WHO wrote the algorithm? Do you have a BAN tool? WHY? Are you a platform or a PUBLICATION? Why do you even HAVE content mods on an OPEN platform?
See those are just a FEW off the TOP of my head, and it would END this sham, ONCE and FOR ALL. By either removing the tech frauds libel protections via sec 230, OR by PROVING the censorship, and leading to govt regulation OR breakup. For example, Google would be FORCED to sell YouTube, and Vimeo.
They REALLY screwed the pooch THIS time. ALL we need is ONE courageous FCC chairman to DO IT. Come on Pai, DO IT. PULL their sec 230 protections, HELL, PULL their access to GOVT owned Internet entirely. Essentially REMOVE the whole damn THING.
Google and Twitter may OWN the servers, but they do NOT own the wireless and wired LINES, as are the SATELITES. That is STILL Govt property., just like the VERY cable and TV and radio stations do NOT own their spectrum of the air waves, that is GOVT property, and it IS regulated, just SELDOM enforced. Time to dust off the rule book, and SLAP THEM WITH IT.
Gee just how much Ad revenue can one make when ones ENTIRE operation is REMOVED from the internet. Let THEM see what it is like to be DEMONITIZED. They will THEN sue, GOOD, right where we WANT THEM to be.
OR, more likely, the SHAREHOLDERS of said tech companies would DEMAND a scalp. a BIG one EACH, and THEN all the crap would END. Make it a REQUIREMENT to get back on the web that the CEOs must GO, along with the ENTIRE senior administrations. Then put them on PROBATION, ANY censorship again and it is 1 YEAR without access…IE a DEATH sentence for whatever company DARED try it.
NO MORE GAMES> PLAY DIRTY, just like THEY do. WE have the power, USE IT. IMHO, we we ALL better off without Facebook and Twitter and Google ANYWAY. We survived 220 odd years without them, we can do MORE.
Gee, then MAYBE go after the MSM’s in the SAME WAY, ANY lying propaganda, and poof, no license to operate. DO JUST ONE of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and ALL the others SNAP to.
Then we could ALL watch as noirmies EVERYWHERE are subjected to TRUTH. I suspect they will NOT be happy OR quiet.
Time to take the gloves OFF while WE still CAN. Better WE do it, and return to some sort of “normalcy” than to let THEM get power and do WORSE to us, PERMANENTLY.
@Jack and Bill Gates should be included.
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1288454963417485317
A few comments:
https://twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1288284938803060737
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1288426719850962945
Tech giants agendas are to
1. silence conservative
2. influence the election
3. to squelch news about inexpensive COVID cures (HCQ, Ivermectin and BUDESONIDE – PULMICORT – STEROID ASTHMA MEDICATION – INHALED via NEBULIZER) must be investigated, indicted, prosecuted!
Their actions are criminal and unconscionable – they have contributed to the deaths of thousands!
Never forget!
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… snort 💦💦 .. PERFECT … 😬
Addendum:
Tech giants agendas are to
1. Silence conservatives
2. Influence the election
3. Spread propaganda narratives
4. Increase the number of Coronavirus cases/deaths and blame it on Trump
5. Squelch news about inexpensive COVID cures
6. Provide a platform for all kinds of illegal activity hiding behind the mask of free speech.
For example, they edit conservative voices as hate speech/disinformation, yet allow a platform for human traffickers, under the guise of in “good faith” we didn’t know.
What’s proposed is a modification of DECENCY in communications law. Publishers would become liable to those damaged by what they choose to publish, or not publish.
Imagine the potential liability for removing the advice of licensed medical professionals. I would imagine that a licensed professional would need to approve the decision to publish or remove, thus accepting liability for the information provided, or not provided.
This could potentially apply to all information within the realm of licensed professions. This public health and safety.
Think public health…
There go all those YouTube videos advocating diy structural design, potentially?
Amen, Mary Morse!
AND PROTECTED!
Okay, looks like it’s live now.
He looks like something that escaped from a Petrie dish 🧫 … and I certainly hope someone’s looking to put him back in it … DANG … 😖🤚‼️ ..
Okay, sorry, feeding time at the zoo and the special needs 8-year old is just being ornery.
I hope you pamper yourself to the hilt once the kidlits are back home …. and 🥂🍷🥃🍺🍻🍹🍸🍾🎊🎉🎊🎉 .. take care sweetie … we love ya 🤨❤️😉❤️
Jim Jordan going through litany of conservatives censored.
Twitter was invited, they decided not to come.
Talking about shadowbanning of Jordan, Gaetz.
More censoring.
Jordan talks awfully fast.
That’s because there are time limits and he wants to get the most words he can on the record. Very clever, actually.
RSBN Link:
LIVE: Google, Facebook, Apple, Amazon testify before House Judiciary
Thanks. Company (my sister) yakking at me.
Surprised he’s actually wearing a suit! Must be trying to impress.
You know when you look at the panty-waist pictured in the video with the start just under his nose and over his lips his forehead and brow looks like Hitler …. I knew there was something off about this thing/being … I wonder if he’s a genetic diabolical cocktail ….. shudder/ugh/blech …
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1288529405044756481
Hay Mah .. looking here … that there is a suit wearing a .. PUD … BWAHAHAHAHAHA
What am I missing? I’m being talked at.
I don’t understand the context or the question.
Accuse, Deny
Accuse, Deny
Accuse, Deny
There. IG is finished. Reclaiming my time.
It is…dang auto rewrite…
Thanks. My sister finally just left. Man, can she just talk.
Hang a roll of duct tape by the door.
She’d bring it in, and say I found this outside.
LOL … run away‼️
Ha Ha … heh heh heh heh …. 😂
DP you are lucky to have a sister I wish I had one.
God Bless you
Sisters and brothers both have their pros and cons. Throw in big personalities, and it can get dicey.
They are predators and they gobble up smaller competitors. A few years back there was a website called thefind.com. Plug in the item you wanted and it would pull up all sites on the web selling it and you could buy from the lowest priced seller. FB bought the site, and discontinued it. Now we’re back to Goog, who promotes AMZ first and foremost.
disgusting
30 seconds with the ear buds in, and Nad-less is doing the same thing the Dems did yesterday, blather blather accuse, and then talking over the witness when they try to answer.
Sensenbrenner (sic) only gave half an argument then backed off. Weak.
Nadless just lectured Zuckerberg on mergers and acquisitions.
Wow.
dems will pressure big tech bossess, threaten them and then give them a back room deals(commitment to continue squelching conservative voice)
Yeah, I would imagine that’s the case.
However, if any one of these guys can be proven to be lying today, add perjury to the list of crimes.
So far, though, this is all about business practices. And, it’s pretty zzzzzzz for the general public.
Please, pull the other one.
The House of Representative of the United States of America is in SOVIET hands.
The simple brilliance of that statement leaves me speechless. It is so true it’s dangerous.
Mr. Guam is going to tip over decides to talk to Tim Cook. Seriously, even if it is Tim Cook, being questioned by this imbecile is insulting.
It’s okay. Timmy is just daydreaming about showering with his boyfriend.
While the Democrats are acting disgracefully, just like yesterday, the witnesses were obviously prepped. “Thank you for the question, etc.”
Gaetz’s topic is American values.
Wait for the video on this. Gaetz is a master of debate.
Questioning the claim that Google has limited involvement in China. HA!
AI in China is limited to a small group of people.
Sure, The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs said something else.
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288542383097950209
The longer I listen to this, I agree. This is scripted, and some kind of propaganda attempt at a cover up.
Now we’re hearing about the fake FB accounts and Russian interference in the 2016 election.
The gentleman’s out of time but the witness may answer the question. Wow.. what a change from yesterday.
Here’s part of the Gaetz segment.
This did come up in some questioning I was half listening to with all the chaos around here.
Why do the DIMs have almost TWICE as many members present as Republicans?
Never mind, that’s a rhetorical question, right?
I would imagine it’s because there’s twice as many of them on the committee.
Dumb me… I thought there is supposed to be an equal number, minus the majority chair…
That’t the full committee. I don’t know about subcommittees.
I believe Jordan is correct… this hearing is against rules… or like a six y/o, Nads has changed the rules… GOP rules do not allow a Committee chair to also serve as a SUBcommittee chair… and by any rationale Jordan SHOULD be there today.
DIMs think we are stupid? That we don’t see the questions and answers are scripted?
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_subcommittee#Service_on_subcommittees
Service on subcommittees
House rules are silent on how members are assigned to subcommittees, as this practice is traditionally governed by party rules and practices.[2]
House Rule X generally restricts members of Congress to service on no more than two standing committees and no more than four subcommittees within each of those committees, with some exceptions. For example, the chairman and ranking member of the full committee are allowed to serve ex officio on their subcommittees without that service being subject to the limitation. Also, service on any temporary investigative subcommittees established by the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct does not count. Finally, representatives can request waivers from their respective party caucus or conference to serve on additional committees or subcommittees
House Democratic Caucus
Democratic Caucus Rule 26, which addresses subcommittees “when the Democratic party is the majority,” states that no subcommittee can be more than 60% of the size of a full committee. It further states that the resident commissioner and delegates should not be counted in determining subcommittee (or committee) size.
House Democrats allow each committee member to bid, in order of seniority, for available subcommittee leadership slots. For all committees, except Appropriations, this is done by full-committee seniority; for Appropriations, it is done by subcommittee seniority. Caucus rules generally limit Members to chair only one full committee or one subcommittee with legislative jurisdiction. Subcommittee leaders selected for the Appropriations Committee, Energy and Commerce Committee, and Ways and Means Committee require Democratic Steering and Policy Committee approval.[5]
House Republican Conference
Republican Conference rules are silent on subcommittee size and ratio issues.[5] Each committee chair determines and provides to other Republican members of the committee the method for selecting subcommittee chairs. However, a majority of the Republican Members of the full committee can disapprove the selection procedure. Republican Conference rules changes for the 108th Congress required subcommittee chairs of the Appropriations Committee to receive full conference approval. Under House rules, subcommittee chairs are limited to six years of service. Republicans also limit members to a single committee or subcommittee chairmanship; the chairmanships of the Standards of Official Conduct Committee and the House Administration Committee are exempt, thereby allowing a Member to chair either of these panels and an additional panel. Finally, Republican Conference rules prohibit a full-committee chair from leading a subcommittee of the committee they head. Republicans generally leave assignment decisions to the committee leader to determine, although most employ a bidding approach that allows members to select subcommittee slots.[2] Chairmen are limited to six years as the ranking member on a committee, with time spent as chairman and as ranking minority member counting towards the limit. Since the rule has come into force in 1995, waivers have been granted, though very rarely.[7][8]“
https://twitter.com/RealMiniAOC/status/1288546341749104641
GDPR compliance…the Google guy is “not familiar” with a specific issue.
Yep. Coached.
Such donations are an interesting way to silence people.
Man, I’m listening to the Google dude, and I’m wondering just how many crisis public relations practitioners they have in house. He just said something I learned to write in 1994.
Armstrong from North Dakota (?) doing well.
He was talking about getting warrants and law enforcement abusing data being available.
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288549426034810880
Bezos has taken acting for the camera. And he memorized the script and talking points rather well.
Still not saying anything other than propaganda.
Well…the Democrats are at least giving lip service to the right things.
Stuebe asking questions based on personal experience to the Google dude. I’ll have to find that video too.
NO! I DON’T WANT YOU ORGANIZING MY EMAIL FOR ME! ALL THE SALES EMAILS ARE SENT TO A DIFFERENT FOLDER AND IT’S TICKING ME OFF.
JORDAN!
Holy $#!+. He just asked if Google was going to help elect Joe Biden.
Stammer…we support what campaigns do…stammer, sputter.
Jordan just got the Google guy to lie under oath.
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288554887341629447
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288554673264381952
Oh, my. Jordan just exploded at Scanlon who said that Jordan was talking about conspiracy theories.
When video is available…..
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288555067101061121
Philly. nuf said?
Then she went on to talk about diapers.com… 😆🤣😂😆
Yeah, I know. It was surreal, and working to set the narrative.
I swear they’re getting ahead of the indictments.
Yep. This hearing is a PR/psy-ops cover ahead of prosecution for anti-trust of Amazon. They’re bringing up one targeting of a competitor and buying them out. and price wars to destroy the competition after another, and giving the opportunity for Bezos to set the narrative.
Oh, gawd, McBath.
Bezos, can it. Amazon is PAIN IN THE A$$ for independent authors selling books. And it’s the only retailer like that, too.
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288558375031250950
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288559029829152769
Anything like the original ‘rooster’ cut of Trey Gowdy?
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288559415302524931
Not the donors I would expect for Jim Jordan.
Is he like SC rooster (Gowdy)? Makes great sound bites but nothing comes by way of literally action or consequence? Can’t believe that is true of Jordan…???
Google, Koch Brothers and Citizens United in top 10 w/10K each
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/contributors/jim-jordan?cid=N00027894&cycle=2020
same in the 2016 & 2018
Intersting … google consistently gives more to GOP candiddates
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00428623&cycle=2020
Interesting to see to whom they are donating this cycle … their $10K donations are not common
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2020&cmte=C00428623
“Is he like SC rooster (Gowdy)?”
I’ve never seen a sign of that. Gowdy can be like Lindsey Graham and others who say the perfect thing sometimes but not so much at other times. I haven’t seen that with Jordan. He is always reliable.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/president-trump-threatens-executive-orders-bring-fairness-big-tech
FTA
With minutes to go until the historic hearing of the four major tech CEOs in front of Congress, President Trump has tweeted his thoughts:
If Congress doesn’t bring fairness to Big Tech, which they should have done years ago, I will do it myself with Executive Orders.
Trump continued:
In Washington, it has been ALL TALK and NO ACTION for years, and the people of our Country are sick and tired of it!
Talking about slave labor in manufacturing, and all agree that it’s not tolerated.
Oh, yeah, there’s indictments coming. COVER COVER COVER!!!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288565217694298112
Might be the only thing of substance that has occurred so far in this hearing though of course it would require enforcement. Rep Raskin thanking Buck for his line of questioning and all 4 Big guys agreeing to Buck might have China fuming right now.
That crossed my mind about Buck.
Facebook gives overwhelmingly to Dem but also to GOP. Facebook gives to Presidential candidates and seems (from my limited research) to give during primaries as well as to incumbents.
Ingeresting to see which GOP and how much
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals?id=D000033563
Giving to both parties…very common when you are dealing with permits, regulations, inspections, unions, etc. Trump did it regularly, as has thousands of others who depend upon “signatures” to do business. I wouldn’t put too much stock in it unless it’s 100% one way…as many are!
Gaetz…if I was ten years younger…such a wonderful extemporaneous debater. No reading a script. He’s so nimble.
Talking to the Google dude about search manipulation, and that Google dude changed his story.
He he he he he.
Of course, the people who need to hear this aren’t watching.
Related.
https://twitter.com/Ey3s0nQ/status/1288567391673294848
Okay…Stuebe asking about the HCQ videos being taken down for violated “community standards”.
Answer: using CDC as the authority.
Good for Stuebe, shot back “opinion of medical doctors”. Still side stepped but point made.
I miss my Blackberry.
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There is no place for a tech monopoly that has managed to weave its way into the essentiality of every day life the way these tech firms have, to operate as their own private entities when they house public services that we pay taxes to fund.
REGULATE THEM TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS.
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Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon are monopolies and should be treated as public utilities under the FCC
Armstrong asking about sellers of Amazon.
Talking cookies now.
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288583723412271105
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288585932006924290
I’ve got some things going on here. Will be back from time to time.
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288593799355277312
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288593187368509442
https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1288592500727324673
Oh, good Jordan. I need No Doz for this hearing. These people are BO-RING.
He’s talking about “wrong think” and the “cancel culture” mob.
[crickets][
https://twitter.com/Tore_says/status/1288597326530072576
They’re rehashing the same stuff over and over. Denying working with the Chinese government, word parsing on censoring conservatives and wrong think.
Total propaganda psy-op to get ahead of the indictments. Some will fall for it. Most won’t.
Thank God, that’s over.
Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) Tweeted:
Tucker Carlson’s full segment with Rep. @Jim_Jordan on big tech:
“Google is your second biggest contributor in the last cycle. Why do you think they would give you money?”
“If Google gives me a few thousand dollar check, God bless them. That doesn’t change who I am.” https://t.co/ReTjkqpx4j
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