The question of FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith, the indictment of whom was POSSIBLY announced by AG William Barr in response to Sundance’s announcement of an imminent release about DOJ, is very interesting.
Clinesmith is the guy who altered an email about Carter Page, hiding that Page was a CIA source, and thus allowed the BAD Carter Page FISA to continue to be used against Trump.
Is Clinesmith cooperating? How MUCH is he cooperating? People are speculating like crazy. A lot of people are taking Barr’s “gib” as a sign that BIG FISH ARE GONNA BE IN THE FRYIN’ PAN! Clinesmith has to be cooperating! He’s SINGING!!!
Really? “Trey Gowdy really?” Are we sure this isn’t more “Tick Tock Club”?
Remember James Wolfe? He THREATENED to give up a bunch of people in the Senate. Sure seems very convenient that DOJ attorney Jussie K. Liu made that all go away with a wrist-slap for lying to the FBI.
Yeah, but now it’s DURHAM. And Durham is a “straight shooter”!
OK, so you say Sundance says Durham’s not real, yada yada yada, but throw that all aside – Clinesmith is TALKING. RIGHT?
Set aside the possibility – which I think is very real – that MKULTRA techniques may have been used on Clinesmith, to insure he would “come through” on “Carter Page not a source”. Totally subconscious. He won’t remember a thing. Those techniques can also interfere with investigation. “Missing time.” Gaps in memory. There is some possibility that these techniques can be REVERSED, but SET THAT ASIDE, TOO.
We simply need to know two things:
- is Clinesmith giving up useful evidence which will get more coupsters?
- is OTHER evidence accumulating that will get more coupsters?
Q seems to be saying YES!
Room for 5 more indictments.
Link to New Q Drop
Q!!Hs1Jq13jV617 Aug 2020 – 6:59:35 PM
[Placeholder – Indictments Tracking > Non_Civ]
[Set 1]
1. Kevin Clinesmith [KC][11.3]
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[Placeholder – Indictments Tracking > Civ]
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us
Will this information have come from Clinesmith?
Not necessarily, IMO. I think it’s possible, but there may be MORE witnesses and MORE evidence.
We do NOT know how these indictments relate.
So what do you all think?
I’m up in the air right now. I want to hear MORE from Sundance.
Tomorrow – whoops, I mean TODAY is Tuesday. Sundance promised to DROP today. Let’s see what happens.
On Sunday, in one of his talk show coverage posts, Sundance had a video of Nunes talking about Clinesmith. Take a listen:
NOW – this is very interesting – Gateway pundit restates something that makes a lot of sense – that Comey “knew” Carter Page was CIA.
If you read the article, you will see that this reasoning is based on the fact that Carter Page is KNOWN to have sent a letter to Comey, telling him that he had worked for the CIA. Page copied a WITNESS on it, so this is a KNOWN FACT.
In my opinion, TGP is overstating the case by ASSUMING that Comey believed that letter. Well, whether or not Comey believed he letter, we know that FBI top brass was RE-ASKING the lowers about Carter Page’s CIA status when Clinesmith DOCTORED THE EMAIL to hide it. So in my opinion, Comey was getting COVER from Clinesmith when he asked for VALIDATION on Carter Page having no relationship to the CIA.
Clinesmith GAVE Comey that cover by doctoring the email.
So GREAT – there has to be some smoking gun where Comey or McCabe or SOMEBODY told Clinesmith what to do – to doctor the email – RIIIIIIIGHT?
WRONG! There may be, but we don’t know yet.
OK, then. Is it the opposite? Clinesmith did it all by himself – right? End of the line? One guy caused all this damage by doctoring an email?
ALSO WRONG! It may be, but we don’t know yet.
I want to know more about what DOJ is holding here.
And I want to see what SUNDANCE is holding, too.
TODAY.
Tuesday.
Sundance, https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/14/its-500pm/
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I wanted to let Duchess know that I was going to include the MKULTRA stuff here, but decided that the discussion is better in a post by itself, so that this discussion stays more focused on WHETHER Clinesmith is a dead end.
If Clinesmith starts to look like a blame magnet and a dead end of responsibility, then I definitely will get that MK discussion out for people to think about.
Thanks, Wolf!
SD doesn’t think the Clinesmith bust is substantive!!!
“No admission of guilt”!!!
SD: “No, actually it wasn’t. A half-assed, and rushed, criminal information combined with an attorney who stated his client Clinesmith would provide no admission of guilt, is not substantive progress. ”
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I agree with SD. If there is no admission of guilt, not even on a single count of anything, then it’s just more of the same old BS.
Besides, according to Cupie-doo, ‘WE HAVE IT ALL’ and there will be “NO DEALS”.
YUP. Seems like a dead end.
A guilty plea is an admission of guilt.
“Guilty is admitting to the offense or offenses.” https://www.fighterlaw.com/criminal-law-101/criminal-trial-lawyer/types-of-criminal-pleas/
I have not heard of KC taking an Alford plea:
“An Alford Plea is a guilty plea of a defendant who proclaims he is innocent of the crime and admits that the prosecution has enough evidence to prove that he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is entered when an accused, together with his attorney, has made the calculated decision to plead guilty because the evidence against him is so strong that it will likely lead to conviction.”
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/the-alford-plea-guilty-but-innocent
Unless there is something I don’t know, then if KC pleads guilty, under the law he is admitting guilt.
“Unless there is something I don’t know, then if KC pleads guilty, under the law he is admitting guilt.”
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If that is so, then his attorney needs to be disbarred, for undermining Justice and the public’s right to know that Justice is and will be served.
As an officer of the court, KC’s attorney is guilty of violating the public trust, corrupting the public trust, and should have his license to practice law DISSOLVED.
I don’t know who is going to FIX this &^%$, but someone *&^%$ well better FIX it, before the American People fix it FOR them.
Because the bad actors will not like the way we fix it.
But they won’t ever believe we’re going to do anything until we actually do it.
Which is why I support what SD is doing 100%.
Do it.
Or give me the authority to fix it.
I won’t hesitate.
Zealous will I be.
Wonder why Flynn didn’t take an Alford plea. Was that NEGLIGENCE, or worse yet CONSIDERED CRIMINALITY, by his Holder attorneys, Cowardice & Treason?
Good question.
And what a perfect name for Holder’s law firm, ‘Cowardice & Treason LLP, Esquires’…
My understanding is that under an Alford plea people have to face the punishment of a lesser charge. (I am no expert on this.)
I’ve been saving this for you Scott…
Thank you T3, that is AWSOME!!!
😂😁👍👍
Also commenting on what is looking like an Assange pardon:
It would be great if it is Assange!
People were wondering…’Doesn’t there have to be a conviction before a pardon can be made?’
Well, Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon for any crimes that he might have committed.
Nixon hadn’t been convicted of anything.
So I think there is a precedent there.
😏
It does seem that Boente was one of the rogue roadblocks that had to be removed before anything could get started.
If it’s Assange, they better have some iron clad protection in place for him! No more Epsteins!
Oddly enough, I find I am caring less and less as Nov. draws closer.
What I mean is, I am really beginning to take Q (and DP) to heart. It’s NOT that I am any less interested, or that I don’t care about outcomes, or justice served, etc.
Rather, I don’t care about KNOWING how this movie ends. Part of that has to do with my absolute confidence that this election is over (spoiler alert! Trump and the GOP win the WH and both chambers of Congress), and part of it is that I have absolute faith that PDJT has everything under complete control (as he always has).
We are watching a movie. One so carefully scripted that Clinesturd’s court date Aug. 17….the Qth of August…was foretold to us two (2) years ago.
I really could care less if SD is right, wrong, or somewhere in between. Also, I have absolute faith in AG Barr, Trump’s cabinet, and of course PDJT himself.
I no longer feel the urgency to stay abreast of the day-to-day minutia. Today….now…I’d rather just watch and be entertained by liberals going absolutely insane while PDJT cruises from win to win to win.
Will I be interested in how this all shakes out? Of course! Do I need to follow the minutia anymore? No.
In the words of Paul McCartney (or was it George Harrison?)….
I”m definitely getting the same feeling, in that it’s turning into a kind of Big MAGA Rocky Horror Picture Show participation movie. The urgency is gone, even when the Dems come up with their next bullshit crisis to stave off justice and defeat. I just go along with it.
Don’t forget to bring hot dogs, toilet paper and toast.
I absolutely LOVE that video – I annoy my family by singing that song around the house!
Sam’s has been and IS still out of TP!!! No PT or toilet bowl cleaner in a town of over 7million!!!! What’s the damn deal?????
Walmart makes more money on the mark-up so Walmart gets the first shot at the supply.
Avoiding them like the plague. I can run around quickly in Sam’s. Can’t stay in store too long, lose oxygen.
Costco’s been good locally, but if you need to really get some, better to go at beginning of the day. Only one case per customer.
I’m with you. I have been reading John Blanchette’s book, only 2 chapters available now. You can find him in Facebook by checking out E511 (stands of Ephesians 5:11) not his name. You have to look on the page to find where to download his partial book (free). The videos are tortuous to watch whereas his point is clearly found in his prologue & 2 chapters.
He writes of eschatology of Revelation and hypothesis is that the white hats and black hats (NWO) are run by the same being, Satan. White magic will overcome black magic, thus paving the way for an acceptance for the false Christ. Very interesting reading. So I think events will fight back the NWO and we will “win.” Something to think about.
Can you give a link to the download of the book. I don’t find it anywhere on the Facebook page.
Since I have never had a Facebook account I an idiot to doing things on it. I found it on E511 Ministries to click on in the bottom right of the page, but I can’t find it now. Maybe you could send him a message.
I found this on his YouTube when you click more on E511 Ministries, at the bottom is this
Read to the first 93 pages of my book The False Apocalypse here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o718mhbk2s…
That dropbox link doesn’t seem to work now.
Oh, Susy, I’ve wondered about something like this. Have to read this book. Thank you.
There is no magic that wins, white, black or otherwise. And the light is so bright that it is beyond our ability to see it.
“In the words of Paul McCartney (or was it George Harrison?)….”
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It was Paul. 👍
A long time ago, in a land far, far away… 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P6X3IWLECY
I think I just had a minor heart attack! “Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you, honey!”
Just when I think I have somebody pegged, they surprise me. And here I thought you would be the one I’d be going back and forth with over SD and “the reveal or not” until it was over.
You are one of my favorites FG&C. Don’t ever change.
I think I just had a minor heart attack! “Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you, honey!”
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It took me almost 3 full seconds before I was pretty sure I knew that reference… and that’s about two seconds more than it should have taken 😂
That’s what I’m talkin’ about. 👍🏻 What a read.
Let it be 😎😎😎
As I tell Kimi all the time “It is what it is”
Hillary wasn’t sposed to lose, she did and she lost a rigged election, now how do y’all reckon that happened???
It’s all just one big shit show and that’s all it is, Trump’s got this….
Damn Trump Gravity thing hit again🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Tomorrow – whoops, I mean TODAY is Tuesday. Sundance promised to DROP today. Let’s see what happens.”
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Isn’t SD’s plan to release the name to the media first (no idea why), and then make it public 24 hours later, in which case that would be Wednesday?
That was the original plan, but I have no idea if that’s STILL the plan. Note that yesterday he didn’t publish anything but the dailies.
Not sure. And if we hear it from the media FIRST, that could be today.
Also note that the Daily Open and the daily Presidential Admin post were done by Ad rem for the 18th….can’t recall having seen that before (I always assumed they were on a cron job and posted themselves, since the content never changed).
Observant, you are.
It’s because they ARE on a cron job that I think he had AdRem do this today solely to give the impression he was away. Because he didn’t HAVE to have AdRem do it to have it get done.
https://images.app.goo.gl/P7njB8hjnr7FhHB77
See y’all November 4th
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Greg Jarrett on Evening Edit last night, stated that Carter Page showed Jarrett a copy of a letter that Page sent to Comey informing Comey that Page, at the time in question, was a CIA operative. Jarrett said he included that copy in one of his latest books. Jarrett says this confirms Comey knew Page was CIA.
Also that the CIA informed Comey directly, that Page was in fact on their payroll and had been for some time. All this prior to Comey signing off on the FISA warrant.
The Page letter definitely confirms that Comey knew Page SAID he was CIA. The nature of the direct information to Comey (and how direct) will likely determine if Comey does jail time, or skates!
Comey may be in trouble!
Comey gets the letter. Once the FISA is active, any conversations Comey has about it’s content are now subject to review. Say he calls Brennan? Or his people call Brennan’s people? Or he calls someone else for direction on how to proceed? Page says he wrote lots of letters, including to Wray.
He’s the CarterP virus.
I don’t doubt that tracking Clinesmith would unravel many threads – specifically the threads that were directly involved in developing and carrying out the plan to deceive the FISA Court.
IMO, that’s a small part (though significant) of the Big Picture. In the threads yesterday discussions revolving around the massive spying by Obama were brought up. Something that we know likely went on from the start of his tenure in D.C. He finalized weaponizing all our federal agencies against the People, and the country.
Logic would dictate, that as a result of that spying Obama and his minions, acted upon whatever perceived adverse findings they found. Whether it was individuals, groups like the Tea Parties, or businesses like Gibson Guitar.
I take POTUS at his word, they “caught them all.” Barr has indicated that there’s depth and breadth to this entire story, never before seen in our history. I take Barr at his word.
I’m not worried. POTUS knows that this is for all the marbles.
In the meantime, the Left’s meltdown into total rage and chaos is a sight to behold. They’re not going to win.
On a side note, but connected to what I believe will be a serious thread – is how CCP money has far more infiltrated and taken control of not only some of our government agencies, but leadership positions. Gov. Cuomo, in his DNC speech last night used the phrase, “European Virus” – a flat out lie intended to deflect from China.
I wonder if they’re able to follow the money…
Spot on post IMO, ladyp. I don’t think there is any doubt they are able to follow the money as well. Many of the globalists are tied up in the human trafficking, so they are subject to PDT’s order that allows the government to seize their assets. I have no doubt most of the 180,000+ federal sealed indictments relate to it.
Ask yourselves, fellow patriots, why all the hate for somebody who is cleaning up human trafficking, illicit drug distribution, illegal invaders, etc.? Why are the globalist business leaders and their politician henchmen/women fighting FOR all of the visas, foreign workers and criminals while fighting against law enforcement. Why are they so against the wall and use of funds to protect our borders through DOD appropriations while providing sanctuary cities for criminals and illegals to rape, pillage and plunder?
Yeah, we know. Without confession, repentance, and paying the penalty for their crimes they will be burning in the pit with Satan for eternity. I want them to stop and save their souls before it is too late, but we know many will be lost forever because they cannot do those things and possibly know the Lord.
182,771 sealed indictments
Map and other info. It is interesting to see where those sealed indictments are.
https://www.ourgreatawakening.org/182771-sealed-indictments-being-unsealed/
“European Virus” yeah, cause their benefactors must not be blamed for what they DID! Also, must counter POTUS’s i.d. Of the “Chyna Virus.”
I choose to believe. I believe in Barr, and Durham. I choose to believe that their loyalty is to the rule of law and to their country and not the grubby little institution called DOJ.
I may be wrong and then everyone can laugh at me if you like. It is impossible to know at this point so all we can do is guess. And it makes me happy to believe, therefore I will until there’s some reason not to. If Barr and Durham fail PDJT, I’m sure Barr will be replaced after the election.
I tell you, Syl….if anyone winds up laughing at you then they will be laughing at me, too, standing right next to you (if not in front of you, which would be more to my liking in such a situation).
FG&C 🤗🤗🤗
So will I.
BARR DID NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE JOB!
Always remember that.
Someone who was NOT connected to President Trump in anyway had to be found and confirmed. NOT an easy task.
Just as a reminder:
Sessions recused due to DOJ rules.
Sessions was also set up by Kislyak and the Obama Admin, IMHO. That was what he would be angry about. Sessions said himself that when Kislyak came to his office, no one quite knew why he was there. Meeting lasted just a few minutes.
AG Sessions or ANYONE that Trump appointed that he knew or was in the campaign, like Rudy Giuliani or Chris Christi would also have been forced to recuse.
THIS IS THE RULE!!!!
GOVERNMENT ETHICS
“[…]C. DOJ-Specific Conflict of Interest Regulation: No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome. 28 CFR 45.2
Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, candidate, political party or campaign organization arising from service as a principal advisor or official; personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality.[…]”
GOVERNMENT ETHICS: https://www.justice.gov/jmd/government-ethics-outline
“[…]C. DOJ-Specific Conflict of Interest Regulation: No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome. 28 CFR 45.2
Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, candidate, political party or campaign organization arising from service as a principal advisor or official; personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality.[…]”
There are a heck of a lot of DOJ personnel and judges who SHOULD recuse and did NOT!
I have the shovel at the ready FG&C…
POTUS is still using the word, “Treason” this morning – with a capital “T” – not pie in the sky thinking.
We’re getting closer. 🙂
I think so, too, LP. (And I can hardly wait…….)
We’re on the same page, Sylvia! Optimistic, and realistic. No reason to doubt. POTUS is stronger than ever, and he has more people voting for him than in 2016.
Nor is he going to let them steal the election. I believe the theft issue is more about the Dems trying to hold onto the House. but if POTUS can not only turn out votes for him, but also downticket – the Dems won’t be able to pull off the fraud.
Yes, I do think PDJT has more support now than in 2016. We will win…….and we will have justice.
President Trump said Monday he will pardon someone prominent on Tuesday.
“Doing a pardon tomorrow on someone who is very, very important,” the president told reporters aboard Air Force One, according to the pool report.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/president-trump-says-he-will-pardon-very-very-important-person
Remember…it takes two witnesses to get a conviction of Treason.
And the higher up the food chain that the witnesses are, the more credible their testimony is, because their positions would have made it more likely that they witnessed the treasonous acts.
I think that AG Barr has been working his way up the food chain.
Announcing the Clinesmith indictment sends a message to the other guilty parties that Clinesmith is singing, because of the lesser nature of it…with 6 years in jail instead of 20 years.
It’s an interrogation technique, to split up the guilty parties and then tell them that their cohorts are giving up information.
It is intimidating…and it works.
The other coup-plotters have to be searching their memory banks about what Clinesmith was a witness to:
What did he hear?
What did he see?
Did he record anything?
Does Clinesmith have a dead-man’s-file somewhere?
Was Clinesmith MK’d?
We don’t know…but it’s a possibility.
Even if it was done, did Clinesmith stash a file somewhere before it was done?
The 08/17/20 Q-drop is encouraging in that it gives us hope that there are 5 more indictments coming soon.
It fills in the No. 1 slot on this earlier drop from April:
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In another earlier drop, Q also gave us this list of the coup-plotters…with KC/Kevin Clinesmith at the end:
[FBI [JC][AM][JR][MS][BP][PS][LP][JB][MK][JC][SM][TG][KC]]
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Hmm…I wonder if TG/Tash Guager will be the next indictment?
One month has passed since Pres Trump told us we would have an “amazing 8 weeks”.
He said that on 07/16/20…while standing with a display of heavy-lifting machinery.
Heavy-lifting machinery…hmm, nice optics there.😉
He said that on a Thursday, iirc, and then said that “starting next Tuesday” they would be revealing some of it.
https://twitter.com/LileStarseed/status/1284102638095736832?s=20
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So we’ve got about 4 more weeks to go…which takes us into the week of 09/11/20.
I know one thing; the Post Office has been a big topic lately.
Which makes me think that that was the main reason why AG Barr went on Hannity to talk about the Vote-by-Mail issue…and the huge potential for fraud that it poses.
Barr talked about that more than anything else.
That’s just my opinion, though…YMMV.
Great stuff Wheatie!
I see also that Tash might be the next target. I believe SD has focused here. What he is exposing.
Possibly what pushed the issue of bringing out KC…because Tash was about to be exposed with evidence from SD and is number 2. One before two…who is next? Number three… Comey. ? more spots to fill…plenty of names to play with.
I am definitely sitting back enjoying the show. Corn going in next week. (and watermelon…summer is coming🌞😁🌸). Cupboard is stocked with popcorn.
Winter in the tropics of Oz is so beautiful…wish you were here. 🌺
I also remember reading something about the post office. Post Master having the flag or the permission of the flag to do trade. Owned by the British and nearly lost recently if it wasn’t for a fello coming out and claiming it to the UN and such. Can’t help but wonder if this is in play with the Post Office narrative to come.?
Thanks, She.
*waves*
😀👋
It’s always good to see you!
It’s been hot and humid here, but also lush and green…because we’ve been getting some rain.
Rain is pretty much always welcome here in OK, since there are times when we don’t get any at all.
At this point in the summer, I am looking forward to some cooler temperatures coming in a month or so.
😏
Haha not me. Don’t like the cold at all…hence living here.
Will take 90% humidity anytime!
Would love to experience your version one day though!
……and the food 😁
Same here in western Carolinas, Wheatie. Normally our back gardens are looking pretty tired at this time of year but because of so many late afternoon thunderstorms recently, everything is still lush and blooming.
We have large windows looking out and I’m savoring the beauty…even the countless shades of green among the trees.
Nevertheless, will be delighted when the humidity fades away.
AMEN on the humidity fading! I am in the center of NC (Piedmont) and I have never seen the grass so lush. My animals can not eat it all! (Hubby is out mowing the pastures.)
Wheatie speaking of the USPS this is the top story of our local rag…
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2020/aug/18/rep-huffman-meets-local-postal-workers-outside-wes/
They are pushing vote by mail big time lol if they can keep up with Christmas vote by mail is no big deal…
What these people fail to talk about is all the fraud, we vote absentee because were in the boondocks but I noticed last time our prepaid envelope is different than Kimi’s sister who is registered democrat.
Just FYI, this popped up and was posted on the daily by eilert:
I wouldn’t dismiss Clinesmith’s importance just yet.
speculation….for now
True. But a lot of what gets discussed on various boards is.
PARDON is for Susan B Anthony on the 100th Anniversary of Womens Vote – 19th Amendment!
https://www.c-span.org/video/?474926-1/president-trump-pardons-susan-b-anthony&live
PDJT was teasing and trolling everyone – HA-HA!
Trolling?
Or gauging reaction and the speculation as to whom it might be?
Testing the waters floating a trial balloon.
AND TROLLING
Susan B Anthony was against Abortion….
I think you’re right! Susan B. Anthony is a heck of a stalking horse!!! LOL!!!
Testing the waters with a TROLLING LURE.
Gotta love our President. He fooled EVERYONE!
Susan B. Anthony! Ahhahahahaha!!!
President Trump is gonna give me a heart attack.
I gotta cool my jets, man.
My latest, ties in here sort of. For the record, I”MHO Clinesmith is the BEGINNING, not the end. One net is closing, Recall What I told you all and highlight in this post it is compartmentalized.
What IF Q is telling us that Clinesmith is not one indictment of 6, but one indictment of SIX compartments. Clinesmieth will lead to the closure of this 1/6th and more indictments in it. That would mean that there are FIVE other indictments, in mty view from DIFFERRENT compartments that will lead to THOSE LOOPS being closed via MORE indictments. DOJ, FBI, CIA, State, Foreign, WH. That is SIX compartments, with likely sub compartments in each like Clinton, MSM.
look here for my latest. http://politicalprognosticator.politics.blog/2020/08/18/i-think-i-need-to-clarify-my-position-re-sundance-and-his-reveal
I don’t think so, P-rex…Q gave us these six as the [Civ] indictments, for the FBI.
He gave us other placeholder lists for [WH] [C_A] [DNI].
OK, my mistake, I KNOW the investigation is compartmentalized, caught me in the middle of writing my latest blog post, and I might have mis read, apologies.
Lets approach it like this then Clinesmith is the first of six FBI indictments. WHO would be the others?
Baker?
Priestap?
Strzok?
MCCabe?
Comey.
That is SIX.
Is one of them cooperating and thereby enabling one more? Or is there someone like the subordinate agent to Strzok that is cooperating and fingered them all?
Will there be six or more or less in DOJ?
Lynch
Yates
Bruce Ohr
Lisa Page
Meuller
Rosenstein
How about CIA?
Brennan
??
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??
How about State?
Kerry
Winer
Nuland
Yovanovich
Taylor
How about NSC?
Clapper
Vindman
Ciaramella
How about Foreign?
Hannigan
Halper
Downer
Mifsud
Tawill
How about MSM
Issakoff
David Korn
Haberman
How about Clinton camp?
Hillary
Podesta
Mook
Brazille
How about the WH
Rice
Power
Rhodes
Jarrett
Biden
Obama
How about Fusion GPS?
Simpson
Steele
Nellie Ohr
Then you have the lawyers and judges like
Weismann
Rudolph Contreras
Emmitt Sullivan
and more from FISC and Mueller’s team/.
STILL compartmentalized as I theorize EACH of these areas has a US attorney. RICO conspiracy COMING.
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Q Sets may very well be aligned with FIB, DOJ, IC…
OR, sets may be linked to in SD vernacular, silos. Distinct coordinated criminal efforts by officials from various agencies. Target – Flynn silo. Target – Page silo… Some bad guys played in multiple silos.
Dunno which way this will go. The latter is my suspicion.
My bet it is campartmentalized. Obam spread it far and wide so it would look pervasive, AND it masked and insulated HIS involvement.
It was ALWAYS him, and the EVIDENCE Nunes SAW. It is his PDB.
They need to FOCUS on the busted timeline. Fine PROVE Page was set up, but WHAT was USED in that setup besides Clinesmith’s alteration. That’s right the DOSSIER. What was Muellers ROADMAP? The DOSSIER. What is ALL they had BEFORE Crossfire began to setup Papadopolous, Cohen, Manafort, Don Jr and Trump? The DOSSIER.
What were they trying to PROVE with Mueller? The DOSSIER. What does the Dossier allege?
That Trump is a Russian asset, and he is compromised via financial troubles and a sex video.
What REFUTES that, WikiLeaks.
Who did they attack to REMOVE using the Russia allegations? Flynn
see the pattern
…. then AG Wm. Barr said that if they had any evidence that a crime had been committed ….. they would prosecute (after the election). Don’t know how long the list has to be before they see the evidence they already have.
When it one GIANT conspiracy, with HUNDREDS of people involved, includiong foreign agents and agencies, it does NOT happen quickly. When you are trying to end a criminal Cabal that has had 40 odd years to entrench its self, and you still do not fully know WHO is friend and WHO is foe, you must proceed cautiously. You do NOT want one slip up or error to end the whole sting.
While I respect and uphold the process and those who have authority over us recognizing that they are only in those positions because God allowed them. However, my faith for a secure future is not in them. “I know in whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed to Him against that day”. A righteous person lives by faith and the difference is in where he/she place our faith. Clearly DOJ need to quit delaying and getting moving with what they have.
Barr himself said that the indictment wasn’t going to be earth shattering. Clinesmith is a great start, and like you, I believe there are going to be some serious developments in the not too distant future.
beginning to sound like click bait
Yup. While the investigations are compartmentalized, focus areas, I gotta believe they are talking and sharing information. Casting a wider net, bullet proof cases.
Barr is no dummy. He willingly accepted this task. President Trump is damn sure asking smart questions, probing and giving emphasis where additional effort may be required.
We will win.
I wonder if SD is being played? These guys have a lot of practice. They had to get Millie out of the way who is next? Maybe they catch up to SD and find a fictional crime to silence him .
I do not trust the game that is played. The swamp will fight back and they will take anyone with them if they think they will be harmed.
Prayer for SD stay safe these are dangerous people he is dealing with.
AND he is DOXED and therefore KNOWN.
Think MS13 and other Florida gangs.
October 2011
“Since 1991 about 256 gangs established themselves in Miami Dade County. Many of those gangs have come and gone, but currently over 70 of those gangs remain active. Over 2,300 gang members engage in a variety of criminal activities, including narcotics trafficking, robberies, burglaries, shootings, homicides, assaults, and auto theft. Some are located in South Dade (Homestead, Naranja, and Cutler Ridge), while others have emerged in North Miami Beach and Miami Gardens and still others are in Doral and Sweetwater. These numbers, compiled by the Miami Dade County Police Department’s Street Gang Unit provide us with a glimpse of the problems faced by the county and the state as they try to cope with curbing the violence generated by these gangs….”
*http://newweb.jssinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/White-Paper-The-Gangs-of-Miami.pdf
It is thought that Seth Rich was takenout by 2 MS-13 members.
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MS13 Hit Squads & CIA
Anonymous
5 Nov 2017 – 1:06:58 AM
Who funds MS13?
Why did BO instruct HS & BP to release MS13 captures at the border?
What agency has direct ties to (2) major drug cartels?
Why is AG Sessions / POTUS prioritizing the removal of MS13?
Why is AG Sessions / POTUS prioritizing building the wall?
Immigration?
Drugs?
Who do you hire for a hit?
Who can be eliminated after the job is complete?
Seth Rich.
Who was found dead (2) shortly after his murder?
What affiliation did they have?
Classified.
Q
DOJ is under no obligation to play SDs games, follow his lead, (wishful) edicts… Quite the contrary.
DOJ has to build a solid case, indict, arrest, prosecute…
I, 100% am irritated that this process is taking so many years.
I’ll stick with Barr, Durham and prosecutors Barr has brought in.
President Trump will be extraordinarily vocal, IF Barr is not towing the line.
Staying on the Trump Train for the full ride.
david graham
@davidgr13041678
Replying to @TheLastRefuge2
Not coincidentally they asked you to delay until today, and low and behold the Bipartisan Senate Report comes out today supporting the Muller Report.
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That is it and now I wonder what else they are cleaning up and not give POTUS his dues that there was a cup attempt and POTUS did nothing. Mueller and his henchmen need to be locked away for a long time.
The government is arrogant to betray us and POTUS like that.
Cross posting from the Daily as IMO this is applicable here per the Senate Special Committee on Intelligence discussion:
Looks like a pre-emtive strike on the Durham investigation appeared in Newscorp’s Wall Street Journal (no, it is not a trade journal any more).
https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1295739790042763268..
Quigley Retweeted
Hans Mahncke
@HansMahncke
And there it is. In one feel swoop, the Senate Intelligence Committee undoes years worth of work exposing the Russia hoax, giving the media and Democrats the perfect weapon to neutralize anything that may come from Durham.
Quote Tweet
The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
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Members of Trump’s 2016 campaign represented a major counterintelligence risk due to contact with Russian affiliates, a bipartisan Senate probe concluded https://on.wsj.com/2CGCVzU
11:10 AM · Aug 18, 2020
🐎💩
I managed to unearth my decoder ring and figured out your emojis! LOL
Try it on some of Wolfie’s circular posts and let me know if it works! I need the help😁😁
… bwahahahahaha .. 💩👍‼️😜🤚❤️ ..
Lil Marco is neck deep in Muh Russia, they dont want 100 million patriots coming to DC and dragging them out of our house, trust me….
The SSCI might provide some fodder for the media, but I couldn’t care less what they say.
Reminder of who is on SSCI. A couple disappointments on the R side:
Don’t trust any of the R’s or the D’s on that list. All deep state IMO…
Frikkin Cornyn, disgracing Texas!! 🤬
Don’t get me started on that vile GOPe POS.
Each and every one of them are owned by china
Well maybe, just maybe they can be stripped of their citizenship and deported to … CHY-NAH 🤔‼️
You know, air drop from a C3 transport aircraft in the middle of the night from a sickeningly high altitude in the middle of winter … in the wilderness .. with parachutes 🪂.. (wait for it) made in
.. CHY-NAH … BWAHAHAHAHAHA … 🤨
… 🤗 … 🤨🤚🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸‼️ …
…. seriously .. 😐👍 …
Richard Burr is the piece of 🐗💩 that gave the WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION JURISDICTION OVER AMERICAN FARMERS!!!!
I have nothing but contempt for that piece of 🐗💩 Actually 🐗💩 is more useful since it can be used as fertilizer. Burr would poison the field or anything that ate him!
…
Did I mention I do not like Burr?
I’m not getting started on Roy Blunt.
I am mild in comparison?🤣
Yes, Tom Cotton…big disappointment. Others…expected.
No intelligence there that I can see…
Cornyn is RINO big time. He’s crooked. What about Cotton?
While Cotton may not be pure Deep State, he is a Police Stater like Peter King…not that big a difference. Thinks it’s okay to stick big gov’s nose under the tent whenever they want. Probably loves him some (un)Patriot Act…
Was also part of the Sea Island group too, if I remember correctly.
An Island Full Of Millionaires Wants To Stop Donald Trump …fortune.com › 2016/03/08
I have read here and peeked there and somehow don’t know If promised stuff is happening today, tomorrow, or never.
Are we still waiting?
Sundance best have a dead mans switch. After all the wierd things going on as Q was increasing on popularity and the strange posts OT, it would be nice to just stop playing games .
he just tweeted something about releasing journalists from secrecy
Now he says 2 PM today, back on. ??
The one investigating is not Durham but its Rudi ?
Wolfie, FG&C
The political indictments and the ‘teasing there of’ is THE MOVIE. The SQUIRREL the DNC and Fake news is chasing.
I think the REAL harm will be the DRUG, SEX and HUMAN trafficking… AND THE FRAUD. Think USAid and the RED CROSS Think MONEY LAUNDERING BY BANKS — ALL OF THEM!
DawsonSField has been following the money laundering trail.
“Ten financial institutions: Deutsche Bank, JPMorgan Chase, Citibank & others have been issued subpoenas in recent weeks from the office of USVI Attorney General Denise George!…”
Virgin Islands govt goes after Epstein’s financial records, subpoenas JPMorgan, Deutsche bank
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1288126693916307456.html
“China accuses HSBC bank of setting it up in a sting with DOJ to catch Huawei violating sanctions on Iran & Syria!…”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1287825866823798786.html
>>>>>>>
Roscoe B Davis and others had a listing on sex trafficking:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1291342456806678533.html
It is ALWAYS reported locally ONLY:
In a recent report from the Ohio Human Trafficking Task Force, more than 300 people in the state were victims of sex trafficking, about 25 were trafficked for hard labor, and another eight were trafficked for both purposes.
*https://www.cleveland19.com/story/37287986/ohio-ranks-fourth-in-the-country-for-human-trafficking-cases/
However with the closing of the border President Trump has SHUT DOWN THE REVENUE STREAM.
CONTINUED…
#SOULWAR ✝
Brent Cates, Brian’s Brother has a really good thread on what has happened while everyone was chasing the Political Squirrel.
He does an indepth look at not only the Human, Sex & Drug trafficking but the importing of assassins and enforcers.
This is why I do not think we have seen the last of AG Sessions, the SILENT EXECUTIONER.
(And yes I think President Trump lies when needed for the good of the country.)
I have trouble thinking he would extend it to withholding a Senate endorsement. Hope I am wrong.
IF other things are planned for Sessions and POTUS is OK with the present Senator, then yes I can see POTUS withholding an endorsement and Sessions playing along with it.
And yes Barron plays too!
I wondered if I got kicked off CTH because I firmly defended Sessions. I never posted a lot but, I did believe Sessions was a white hat. I had a hard time letting go of that thought. He really isn’t though?
I have always thought Sessions had good intentions but was misguided.
Not misguided but TRAPPED.
Sessions believe in the Rule of Law and therefore HAD to recuse. The left could give a crap about the Rule of Law so had no problem using Lawfare against political enemies. To the Left ONLY WINNING & POWER MATTERS.
Only if Sessions agreed,,,he was probably ready to retire and volunteered to be the sacrificial lamb. That’s what I would like to think!
Very, VERY possible.
Trump is a master of misdirection.
IntrIguing ideas here.
Actually I think it is both but the BIG CRIMES are the TRILLIONS of $$$ going to enemies of the USA and then 10% being laundered back to the various politicians.
THINK the Drug Cartels paying CA, TX and other states to look the other way while the drugs flooded into the country.
THINK CHINA and Clinton where Clinton’s China policy was based on BRIBES from China.link
THINK Politico’s The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook
Remember this was done WHILE A WAR WAS DECLARED on Terrorism. Aiding the ENEMY anyone?
Also think John Kerry and his negotiations with Iran behind President Trump’s back.
Ant that is just the stuff that made it into the open.
…
I think the KEY is when Q said:
What happens when people learn the TRUTH?
What happens when people WAKE UP?
They will not be able to walk down the street.
THE GREAT AWAKENING.
Q
Political crap like the Nixon fiasco is NOT going to cause people to wake-up and go for the throats of these pieces of 🐗💩
Harming/killing children, wholesale STEALING TRILLIONS of $$$ of tax payer money, SUPPORTING MURDERERS…. that is going to matter.
Did SD get suckered into waiting until Tuesday and the release of the Senate report showing so many contacts with Russia, etc.?
Did SD get suckered into giving them time to get ahead of him?
He calls out the investigation but got suckered into waiting until the release of this report making it look like the investigation was justified after all?
Sad
More realistically, SD was approached by a seemingly trustworthy source and given assurances. He acted in good faith.
Now, he is free to act as he sees fit.
Will be interesting to see if he can have the impact he hopes have.
While we have are waiting, (credit to Clivus OT)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/pro-trump-russiagate-doc-in-the-works-from-daughter-of-hollywood-legend-exclusive
Information warfare
Status Update – Meeting and Briefing Today….
Posted on August 18, 2020 by sundance
First, thank you for the continued support. This is a highly unusual situation and far outside my comfort zone. Over the past several years y’all know I have dug deep into the investigative weeds behind all things associated with the Trump-Russia madness and assembled a complex set of research and evidence materials that are very troubling.
From the outset my goal was simply to ensure that investigative operations within the totality of government would be aware of the hidden evidence that is not supposition, but fact-based with direct evidence.
Obviously a secondary objective, given the nature of the material, was to ensure those in positions of power and influence would know that we know….. and that fundamental knowledge would mean they could not hide it.
If they do nothing, the least We The People deserve to know is who “they” are. Specifically who “they” are without equivocation.
Today at 2:00pm ET should be a conclusive point in that regard as I am directly briefing those unknown and hidden people, actual badges, who have the power and authority to act. However, that said I hold no confidence and/or trust toward them.
This has not been easy. Unfortunately there exists a myriad of self-interests on and individual and institutional level who would not want this evidence to surface….. and so this odd game of briefing, obfuscation and intentional attempts to “not become aware” has been ongoing. That’s a bigger story for another day.
After several -seemingly- purposeful delays, and some expressions of good faith which I am not sure are actually ‘good’ or ‘faithful’ we come to this moment approximately an hour from now. The media who I have briefed on the material have been released from any/all prior confidences. Additionally, I have released the name of the primary investigator (deep behind the Durham probe) to the same media. If those media voices do nothing, I will share who they are… until then, I grant them benefit of courage and patriotism.
It’s time to start asking some very hard questions…. but in order to do that, these voices first needed to know the material so those questions could be asked; hence, the exhaustive travel for in-depth briefings in multiple cities and states.
Nothing is supposition; everything is connected to deep and direct evidence of corruption that covers a variety of interests and numerous institutions. The most adverse to sunlight are members of Mueller’s purposefully installed special counsel unit. After the Obama administration left office, Andrew Weissmann and crew took over. They did things that only Machiavellian thinkers could imagine. It will all come out; the question is when?
After another attempt to delay,… I took a purposeful stance. Everyone reversed course and we are back on track.
Expect no help from the Senate; they were participants… Today’s released obfuscation and nonsense from the SSCI is evidence in that regard. The entire upper chamber is compromised; they know it, I know it and a large part of the American electorate know it.
I dislike immensely not being able to just be the guy with a blog who outlines research material, provides the direct source information and explains to people what is going on. Recent weeks/months have been challenging because when your goal is to extend benefit-of-doubt, you do not want to impede any truthful efforts. However, I have exhausted my ‘benefit-of-doubt‘ stash; I need to return to my original position: ‘THE TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA’.
So begins the worst/best phase of the Big Ugly.
Thanks again for all the support.
All in…. More later…
Whatever flaws he has, there can be no question this man is a true patriot of our beloved Republic and staunch supporter of our great President.
I wish him and his efforts God’s speed, protection, and blessings towards all success.
Go git you some, Sundance!! Kick DC’s collective, bloated, and corrupt ass!!
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Like and agree
Yep. Get em Sundance!
https://twitter.com/spirovideo/status/1295791694013636609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Well, is the shit finally going to hit the fan, or what?
I’m wearing my “shit hit the fan” gear and everything.
Does this include a pooper scooper and rolls of little baggies?????
🦋ROFLWingsO😂😂😂
Attacking Dawson
https://twitter.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1295840612210454528?s=20
If you’ve ever spent time in a law firm, you just want to bang your head. All that evidence and information is under lock and key, especially if people on The Hill are implicated. I temped on a case where sensitive information was behind a combination lock where the combination was changed on a regular basis. This is far more consequential. If that’s the bee under his bonnet, uh….
Durham’s group is gathering what they need for the charges they are bringing is what I get out of this. He’s not denying Durham has a group, just that they aren’t going for charges that seem to be desired from other perspectives.
Observing over some years the Government is very good to quickly prosecute the little guy or the one that is in their cross hare. They protect each other.
The republicans for some reason always site with democrats and democrats enjoy destroying the republican. One cannot fight with a sea when the other has a machine gun.
Republicans are more concerned about decorum and appearance than action. That is why they do not like POTUS he is all action and does not worry about the artificial crap.
William Aldenberg.
Involved in Sandy Hook.
That’s your investigator for Durham.
Searching for more now.
Who reported this? Do you have a link?
‘I didn’t give them puzzle pieces, I gave special investigator William Aldenberg the fully assembled puzzle.’
He’s got a Twitter account @USAO_CT
I have seen Aldenberg before I do not forget faces. I now wreck my brain where? He looks so familiar?
Yes, look at my next comments.
Aldenberg was a plaintiff against Alex Jones over his questioning of the Sandy Hook story:
https://www.winknews.com/2018/07/24/radio-host-cites-iconic-reporters-in-bid-to-nix-sandy-hook-lawsuit/
He was one of the first responders on the scene? Weird?
From the article above:
“The plaintiffs include the parents of four children killed at the school – Daniel Barden, Dylan Hockley, Ben Wheeler and Avielle Richman. Also suing are relatives of two slain educators – school Principal Dawn Hochsprung and first-grade teacher Victoria Soto. FBI agent William Aldenberg, one of the first responders to the scene, is also a plaintiff.”
Thats wierd
Are we sure that the Sandy Hook William Aldenberg is the same William Aldenberg SD named? It seems likely, but it needs to be asked…
It’s not that common a name.
I’m holding on to the faintest of hope that it’s NOT the man directly involved in a major false flag.
My daughter lives close to Sandy Hook and we visited shortly after the inside happened. I can tell you the Sandy Hook shooing really happened. This could not be hidden to the people living there because most people know each other. In close community one cannot hide fake.
How many people and children were shot I am not sure if there was a cove up it hd to be in the numbers not that it did not happened.
A false flag and a hoax are not the same thing. A false flag can still end with real life shootings, injuries, and death.
Well, the Sandy Hook guy is an FBI agent, so it does seem likely. But I’m still looking.
William B. Aldenberg, more specifically. Also he’s an attorney.
There’s far too many attorney’s alive to expect to get the real story, uncontested. They usually can’t agree on the colour of shoe laces.
Sadie, there is a bunch of stuff on this page about Aldenberg, Sandy Hook, and whether he was really there. I thought it would be of interest to you, especially.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-sandy-hook-dad-dave-wheeler-caught-in-swat-uniform-on-day-of-shooting.7123/page-2
Thank you!
We really are watching a movie, aren’t we?
Seems that way.
I hate sounding stoopid, but so be it.
What is SD hoping exposing this guy’s name will do????
I could give two flicks if his name is Daffy Duck, I just want indictments.
IKR???
Is he hoping to bring pressure to bear on this guy? Is he hoping to discredit the lead investigator and get him replaced? I just don’t understand……
Me either. Now we have a name to pester??
Hiya Miss Sylvia!
What they dont get is that real people are bioling with rage while they play Capitol Hill footsie in suits and ties. They need to do this now or if people dont see it they may take it into their own hands,xand everyone on the Hill, save the President and his family will end up being fair game.
Hi Gil! Oh yes, boiling mad. They had better think again if they think we’re just going to let this go.
“What is SD hoping exposing this guy’s name will do????”
No clue, but there must be a reason. If he was involved in Sandy Hook, and the treehouse dweller is not being manipulated, something odd is going on.
DP, not at all sure exposeing his name was a good idea.
He seems like a DS puke to me. I’m glad he’s been outed.
Yep. I would have guessed there are other ways of laying on pressure. Or, is SD planning to expose every FIB agent investigating the various silos?
Something seems off to me.
Don’t know if it matters, but it’s information.
Alderberg is Norwich University Class of 1991. Graduated New England School of Law, Class of 1998.
Norwich is private and military. It is the nation’s oldest private military college and the birthplace of ROTC.
This guy may be outstanding.
Is SD saying Durham appointed Aldenberg to be over the investigation? (If not, then who did?) If so, is SD enumerating problems with him? I don’t know what the issue is yet.
Me neither, which is why I’m digging. Is it the Sandy Hook connection? What?
https://twitter.com/terrance_willy/status/1295852366739247104?s=20
Sounds like he gave Aldenberg all his info, then he doxxed him because he didn’t do ___________. ??? 😵😵😵
THAT is the best theory I have heard yet!
😁
Quite probably unfair, but, a few days ago I likened SD stated way ahead to a child scheduling a tantrum. If SD doesn’t get his way, he’s going to do….dox, dunno…
Agree.
From SD’s Twitter threadreaderapp:
*https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1295817275401015299.html
SD: “2.) The investigative agents, those who most people put their faith upon, are hampered by compartmentalized isolation of evidence. The system is purposefully set up that way.
Evidence is essentially silo’d.”
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The problem with this theory is, and has always been, that unless they’re all MORONS, they have to be aware of SD’s blog, not to mention Q and multiple other sources of information.
The information is EVERYWHERE, in the PUBLIC DOMAIN, and these are supposed to professional investigators.
Trying NOT to be aware of all that is going on, especially if you are a professional investigator, would be like trying to navigate a Hall of Mirrors without ever seeing your own reflection.
It’s stupid.
You couldn’t do it, unless you put a bag over your own head.
No doubt in my mind, the guys running these silos are talking to each other. Barr would ensure it. President Trump would insist in no uncertain terms. IMO.
Yep.
If I understand Sundance correctly, he seems to be saying that he has been briefing these investigators and DoJ lawyers around the country, and getting blank stares when he mentions basic things that have appeared on his blog for years, like a certain letter the FISA court sent out, detailing severe problems with the Carter Page FISA warrant application.
SD: “I have extracted and collated evidence from inside each compartment; then assemble and deliver to the investigative unit in such a manner as the political toxicity is removed. ”
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So he’s acting as a sort of DNI (Director of National Intelligence) who has access to all agencies (actually public domain information), and pulling the relevant information from each agency (actually from the public domain), and assembling it all like a PDB (presidential daily brief), and making presentations like it was a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility).
And all of this is necessary because our government has very purposefully designed itself and its procedures in such a way that their own corruption can never EVER be caught.
BURN it ALL the way DOWN to the GROUND.
SD acts like HE has EVERYTHING.
Surely he has a lot. Wonder just what makes SD so sure he has everything, is smarter than whoever he talked to, and those he talked to were fully forth coming with SD. The latter is wholly, unbelievable, IMO.
“SD acts like HE has EVERYTHING.
Surely he has a lot. Wonder just what makes SD so sure he has everything, is smarter than whoever he talked to, and those he talked to were fully forth coming with SD. The latter is wholly, unbelievable, IMO.”
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My impression is that he doesn’t have everything by a long shot… but what he DOES have is more than enough.
What he DOES have is irrefutable proof, blowing open the entire 3+ year conspiracy to overthrow the President of the United States, using public domain information, government documents, released court records, sworn testimony, etc., etc.
What he appears to be saying is LOOK, there are already more than enough pieces to this puzzle to lock everyone up FOREVER.
The PROBLEM is that nobody at Gang Who Couldn’t Shoot Straight Headquarters wants to connect all the puzzle pieces into a complete picture.
It’s all right there, it completes itself, but you have to actually LOOK at all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle and how they fit together, and the DOJ and FIB are going to extraordinary lengths to NOT put the pieces together, to NOT connect the dots, to not ‘see’ the complete picture.
And the ONLY rational reason for that to be so is because the institutions are protecting themselves, which means the ‘black hat’ Deep State players IN the institutions are protecting the guilty, and the supposed ‘white hats’ are protecting the institutions, and they need each other to reach their own goals, so they work together. Different objectives, same outcome, i.e., the ‘muh beloved institutions’ survive, and the bad guys all get away.
Everybody (Deep State / career government employees) is happy, except — of course, and like always — We the People… and Justice.
And that, I hope, is what SD is BLOWING UP, all the way down to the bedrock.
These ‘government agencies’ are not just corrupt, they are a NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT to the Republic… and by extension of their corrupt activities, a threat to the WORLD.
What SD knows is what we all know… corrupt institutions will NEVER fix themselves, because not only is there zero motivation to do so, there are a trillion reasons not to, because everybody ‘inside’ the system is benefiting from the status quo, in one way or another.
The corrupt DoJ and the corrupt FIB stand at the edge of cliff.
What I hope is that SD gives them a gentle push into the abyss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZeYVIWz99I
… just threw them scot pipers in there .. 😉🤚 … 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸 ..
Aldenberg was born 11 Nov 1968. He’s older than the one photo floating around looks.
Doug says:
August 18, 2020 at 6:53 pm
“I didn’t give them puzzle pieces, I gave special investigator William Aldenberg the fully assembled puzzle.”
Now I understand that phase 2 is to widely distribute the “fully assembled puzzle”, which will provide eyes on Barr, Durham and Aldenberg to prevent them from burying the story.
It appears that Sundance has already been played once by being asked to delay until Tuesday. Further delay just plays into the hands of those that don’t want to know, and don’t want you to know either.
It is time to spread the word now.
Who is Doug?
Commenter OT
Thanks – interesting comment.
OK, is SD going to inform the masses? Or stick with pressuring the select few? IF SD, has a timeline, say mid September, he is running out of time.
I think Doug was just repeating the original plan. I have no idea, but I’m fed up with the Drama. Meet my demands or I dox you does what?? 🙄 Uh, maybe they’re busy or Barr has his own damn schedule!!
Agree.
EXACTLY, bfly!
Will be interesting if Q posts on this if its as Big as it could be…and I think they need to.
Well, I hope he has something more earth shattering than this. What is the point of naming this guy? To besmirch his credibility, since he was involved with the Sandy Hook investigation? There were a lot of things about Sandy Hook that look like a false flag. Or to call him out if he doesn’t use Sundance’s research? Otherwise, I don’t see the point. I hope Sundance recognizes that there are a lot of things he doesn’t know, that have not been revealed to the public.
I hope Sundance recognizes that there are a lot of things he doesn’t know, that have not been revealed to the public.
^^^ Nor would the DOJ likely, even legally divulge much of anything to SD.
This is more suspenseful than Breaking Bad…”Say my name!”…”Aldenberg.”
Lot’s of pics at this link.
https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2018/11/05/did-sandy-hook-parent-david-wheeler-play-an-fbi-agent-on-december-14th-2012/
Where’s that cat????
Now wait just a damn minute.
Devin Nunes sent 14 Criminal referrals to DOJ. You mean to tell me he didn’t send supporting documentation?
IG created a report and sent 2 referrals. Plenty of documentation.
Maybe the referrals got assigned to different investigators, but SOMEONE in charge should be aware of all of them – BARR.
Some Dude’s info is different. It is additional info, about Wolfe and FISA, accusations that SC was running the DOJ.
That is entirely different from the 16 referrals, which I believe MOST were pre-Special Counsel.
It makes total sense that Aldenberg wouldn’t know about his info – Wolfe (closed case) and SC (new can of worms).
But that doesn’t mean Durham’s group hasn’t been doing anything!!! And that Barr doesn’t know what’s what.
He just gave them extra info, basically more homework, by adding Wolfe and SC, unless he has info on CH that they don’t. His info for example, has no bearing on the Office of Net Assessment paying and running Halper as a spy, 5 eyes, etc….
SD is the one that doesn’t know all. Pretty prissy of him with his slanted narrative, demands, and doxxing. Glad they have his info, it’s good analysis, just Not liking how he’s done this – they know nothing, he’s the HERO, not sitting well with me.
Bingo. Whatever SD may have given DOJ, if potentially useful to DOJ, has to be thoroughly vetted. Takes time. Hope, SD is not mucking things up, for his ego or financial gain.
Agree.
“Hope SD is not mucking things up”
Same here.
Lots of unanswered questions.
What is the relationship between Aldenberg and Durham? Did Durham appoint him? If so, is the idea supposedly that Durham has appointed someone inept or Deep State or anti-Trump or dishonest or bought and paid for? What is the alleged problem with Aldenberg?
If Aldenberg was given all of SD’s materials, what happened then? Did he not give a satisfactory response? What was the expectation, and what happens going forward?
Does anyone know whether SD’s premise — what we’ve seen of it — is correct, that information is compartmentalized so investigators never have the full truth? I would think only insiders could address that. And then you don’t know if they’re protecting sensitive info that can’t be shared or whether they’re duping you. Surely AG Barr and others would know about this.
If SD has been working on this for a couple of years, how would he know when there was new info from any of the government entities unless sources within them were constantly updating him? In other words, how is he up to speed on everything without cooperation? Then, who was giving him info?
What happens to Aldenberg now that his name and role have been revealed? Is the expectation that he will be replaced? If so, why?
I hope this has not compromised any investigations, which take long enough already.
All good questions. All I can think is that SD believes that Sandy Hook was a hoax and Aldenberg was associated with that.
What I know is, Sandy Hook is the black hole of rabbit holes. I got down in there for a while and oh, boy. I climbed back out and tried to forget it. I was actually watching them chase a second shooter in the woods that day. I’ll never forget it.
“Sandy Hook is the black hole of rabbit holes.”
Yes! I doubt we’ll ever know the whole truth.
Sandy Hook is the huge red flag for me.
What I have only hinted at previously was how I was manipulated to join Facebook just prior to Sandy Hook, and realized very quickly (due to experience chasing down bugs in graphical user interfaces) that the place is not there for our benefit – it’s a socialist laboratory AND control mechanism. Once I got in, I realized that they strongly manipulate who sees what in order to both change people’s minds and measure what is possible in changing people’s minds. It’s a human rat maze. When Sandy Hook hit, it became VERY apparent what was going on. I FLED. My “friends” who got me there were not actually “friends”. They were a mix of interesting “group leaders” with sketchy backgrounds and fellow subjects.
I do not care whether Sandy Hook was real, a hoax, an “augmented propaganda event”, or whatever in the hell it was. It was USED to manipulate us, and it is FILLED WITH LIES just in terms of what was done with ME. I *KNOW* something was sketchy there. At a conspiracy level, the knowledge that Sandy Hook was coming was betrayed. It was a lot like Event 201. Most people are pawns – they have no clue. Most people on the chessboard are pieces – they have very limited knowledge and effect. But the people who played everybody – THEY KNEW IT WAS COMING. That leaked through to me, from their larger plan.
I did not get clarity on the event until I realized that it was – most likely – both REAL and FAKE. This happened after Vegas, where enough pristine unquestionable data of both reality and fakery got through, that I could gain an optimal view using BOTH. That then worked for Sandy Hook, too, but I don’t have the same level of evidence on the deaths. But my best answer is to assume they were real. Did Lanza do it? Unknown. Somebody did, if I’m right.
Real bullets hit pavement in Vegas, and the videos and acoustics build a total mesh that cannot be fake. I don’t have that for Sandy Hook, but I believe that some of the alleged parents on film are not real, but propagandists that were meant to lead a psychological operation. Holder said, “I wish there was some way to brainwash people against guns”. Another lie – he was already doing it.
I just don’t know what to think here. But things are troubling. I would be much more at ease if SSA Dugan was in charge here. We know he would pursue things honestly.
H/T beentheredonethat from OT:
“An FBI agent stationed in CT, William Aldenberg, was the 1st FBI agent at the scene of the Sandy Hook massacre. John Durham was the US Attorney of CT before becoming the special prosecutor. It would make sense that Durham picked Aldenberg as lead investigator since they probably worked with each other for years.”
New article, talking about Wolfe, Assange, corrupt SSCI trying to oust POTUS in cahoots w/SC, and throwing down the gauntlet to Barr, Durham, and Aldenberg. WE KNOW. What are you going to do???
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/18/substantive-elements-of-a-big-story-behind-the-mueller-special-counsel-purpose/
Raise hell!
I tried to get through that but will have to go through it again. It would be nice if there were a bullet-point summary: Because Prosecutor X did/didn’t do Y, AG Barr is complicit, etc.
That was a resonse to Butterfly.
Let’s see if he answers me.
https://twitter.com/bflyjesusgrl/status/1295919682554339329?s=20
If hes traveling he read it.
I read through the article again and feel I’m missing something and it is missing something, though it is very detailed. I kept thinking that we know the things enumerated, and I didn’t understand SD’s point.
I made this timeline:
2/9/17 – 11/7/18 Sessions AG
11/7/18 – 2/14/19 Whitaker acting AG
2/14/19 Barr AG
April 2019 Barr launched investigation into origin of FBI’s investigation of Russsia’s interference in 2016
election. Durham was appointed by Barr around this time to look into Crossfire Hurricane.
October 2019 Durham’s investigation was reported to have become a criminal probe.
SD says Barr needs to explain this to the nation:
“The intelligence apparatus was weaponized against a candidate by those who controlled the levers of government.” Isn’t that what these investigations are for?
This statement isn’t clear because it is missing something grammatically.
“Where the DOJ and Bill Barr’s investigative unit labeled ‘The Durham Investigation’ is directly connected to the decisions the special counsel and DOJ made in 2017 and 2018 to protect themselves and internally corrupt actors from discovery.”
Durham’s investigation started in about April of 2019. According to his Wiki page, “Durham was given the authority ‘to broadly examin[e] the government’s collection of intelligence involving the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russians,’ reviewing government documents and requesting voluntary witness statements.” And then it became a criminal probe. So isn’t Durham looking into the events of 2017-1018?
Swipes at Barr at the end: 1) “That type of honest sunlight delivery means taking people back into the background of the larger story and explaining what decisions were made; with brutal honesty and without trepidation for the consequences, regardless of their severity and regardless of the friends of Bill Barr compromised by the truth.”
2) “We know…. You know…. William Aldenberg knows and likely by tonight John Durham knows; so AG Bill Barr shouting at President Trump not to ‘tweet‘ doesn’t change the fact this corrupt curtain has been removed and the truth stands on it’s own merit.”
I notice there doesn’t seem to be much discussion about this or coverage on conservative sites. It is time-consuming, and I haven’t fully digested it yet. Maybe it’s just me, but I wonder if some others are going to have a difficult time trying to decipher what SD is getting at and expects to happen.
Wait…didn’t we learn that Sessions had appointed Durham to investigate the internal corruption and leaks in the DOJ?
And that thing about “compartmentalization” of the whole Investigation…with different compartments not knowing what the other compartments are investigating?
When you are dealing with the Deep State, which has tentacles into everything…it makes sense to ‘compartmentalize’ the investigations.
The object is to keep the Deep State from knowing what is being discovered — not to keep things from being discovered.
It works both ways – continuously. The problem is that DS has excellent monitoring of even the most secret investigations – witness Sal Cincinelli’s murder, Epstein’s murder, etc. Any secret investigation can be secretly taken down, and nobody knows. And from where I sat in Shallow State, ONLY sunlight had any effect on the near-traitors – who pulled off all their crap by super-compartmentalization.
Personally, I’m a fan of sunlight. Q does that – so does Sundance. I’ll take two scoops! 😉
I’m a big fan of sunlight too, as you know.
I just don’t want anything to play into the hands of the coup-plotters and their skeevy defense attorneys.
How does it help us win This Election to make it seem like our white hats are doing something wrong?
And sorry for the delay in replying…I’m not getting an ‘orange dot’ on my notifications bell sometimes.
So unless I open it up and check, I don’t know when I’ve gotten a reply.
😬😒
So are you saying you don’t want them to get off?
What if they are doing something wrong?
Let me ask this. Would you be willing to let almost all the coupsters off if that was the price of winning the election?
I’m presenting a choice which may be false, but just tell me your honest choice, if that WERE the only choice.
Trump re-elected, Coup prosecuted.
Pick ONE.
It’s a tough choice.
I pick “Trump reelected”, of course.
But why does that have to be an either/or choice?
It doesn’t.
We can have Both.
But it may not be on Sd’s preferred timeline.
If we don’t get Pres Trump reelected…then the ChiComs will own us!
This is the most important Election of our lifetimes.
We have to retake the House, retain the Senate and get Pres Trump reelected.
I’m sorry if I keep harping on that, but to me, that’s the most important thing right now.
I still fail to see how this Sd drama is going to help us with the Elections.
I would prefer to see him apply his investigative zeal to the ChiComs…and expose all the ways that they are paying off the Dems/Media and trying to keep Pres Trump from being reelected.
Now if he did that 👆…then I would get out my pompoms and join the Sd cheering squad.
Wheatie, you have a way of boiling things down to the crucial essence. It is one of your superpowers. It helped me to refine my focus. Now let’s get PDJT reelected! That is THE biggest priority.
Thanks, Syl.
Yep, nothing is more important than getting our President reelected!
(He’s gonna win again, Wheatie!)😘😘😘👍
Based on some things I read today, I think SD’s concerns are no longer fully warranted. He may have revealed some good stuff, but “the coup” has just had one leg shot out from under its tripod, and it is GOING DOWN.
I need to validate what I read, but if true, then Q is right – there should be about 5 or 6 indictments just for FISAgate on Carter Page.
The fact that this information got out, but not in obvious response to SD, tells me that Sundance may have had more effect than he thought, or not – he may have just said “where’s my proof?” right before the proof was coming anyway.
Doesn’t matter – BUCKLE UP – the left is going to go nuts.
Smuchas, Wolfie, thanks for posting this. Your thoughts and observations are always worth knowing, and in this case reassuring. I’ll keep my eyes open.
If Trump is reelected, we get four years to push for the coup plotters to be prosecuted.
If Trump loses, even if the plotters were charged today, they will never be prosecuted.
Trump has to win. Sundance needs to stand down. It isn’t even a question of whether he is correct or not. It’s a question of helping or hurting the President’s reelection.
I think Sundance may be being used by the bad guys, honestly. I will continue to follow the story, and contribute information as I can (and will; I know more than I will write about Aldenberg), but I wish he would stop.
Sunlight isn’t helpful when you are sneaking across the Delaware in the dark, to attack the enemy before he can defend himself.
“I think Sundance may be being used by the bad guys, honestly.”
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I wondered the same thing, Aubergine.
😏😉
THIS RIGHT HERE is the problem I keep harping and harping on.
Sundance’s writing style and explanations are not gonna cut it for “normies.” If WE can’t follow it, with all of the background knowledge we have, the AVERAGE voter isn’t gonna see it either.
I agree with Wheatie on this. The election is what matters right now. NOTHING else.
If Trump wins, we have four years to do what Sundance claims to be trying to do. If he loses, nothing revealed between now and the election means a damned thing.
If Trump isn’t President, NO prosecution begun now will ever bear fruit, ever. What Sundance is doing is counter-productive. I’m glad most of the conservative universe is ignoring him, or outright disavowing him.
I will look at evidence that Barr is covering for his friends or Durham is not investigating or Aldenberg should not be on the case, etc., but I haven’t seen that evidence yet. Maybe it’s in the packets SD talks about. But I agree that right before the election is not the time to do this. It is very distracting, and we need all hands on deck, in full force, without our time being taken by other issues. Dems are throwing enough stuff at us as it is.
The time is AFTER the election not before!
It’s been so long since I have bothered to read anything SD wrote I had forgotten that feeling of furrowing my brow and reading through one of his posts only to get to the end and go “what?” And then go back and reread, and reread some more. And I’m not an idiot. I was an English major. I’m used to reading densely written essays. But I need a secret decoder ring to get what SD is trying to say.
Me, too. Do those still come in Cracker Jacks?
😂😂😂😂 I don’t know! Don’t even know if they still make Cracker Jacks!!!!!
Shouldn’t I be offended by Cracker Jacks?
I wondered that, too!!!! 😂😂😂
LOL!
For those offended by Cracker Jack, Hillary is coming out with a snack called Cackle Jerk! 😉
Ha! They do! And they still taste GREAT! 😉
Oh gosh, I bet they do! Do they still have the secret prize inside? I loved those…….
Yup. Still little, cheap, and stupid, BUT IT’S A PRIZE!!! 🙄 😉
My grandparents used to buy us those as a treat……and I just loved the prize! Glad the tradition continues! 😊😊😊😊😊
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I’m still going with what Joe diGenova said a week or so ago and that was he thinks that some will be indicted before the election, but many more afterwards. We still don’t have all the courts secure. Just look at the D.C. Court of Appeals…
I think this is right, and there is information today that makes me believe it.
Full disclosure: I have had a lot of trouble following all of the revelations OT and making sense of things.
AG Barr ended the witch-hunt. Q has been telling us that would happen for a long time, and in what order. I found that more helpful than the criticism, OT, of AG Barr.
Actions mean more to me than words, especially in Washington. Even so, I believe that AG Barr has done a great job in explaining what needs to be done to restore Justice in this country and I see him doing that. He may not be going as fast as some would like, but contending with sabotage from corrupt officials and replacing corrupt judges in order to get a fair trial is not an instantaneous process.
He has said a lot, clearly and forcefully and in a way that people can understand, about the coup but i think he cannot and must not say or do anything that might prejudice the prosecution of the criminals involved, (which I agree, will only happen if the President is re-elected). I love his responses to Congress.
So I am a fan, and I am saying so because I think appreciation needs to be expressed where we can for those on our side. It is a lot easier to be left in this country than right and people can experience a lot of grief for saying and doing the right thing..
I don’t understand how an investigator appointed by and working under the main investigator isn’t part of the same investigation. Maybe I missed something.
SD has a place in our fight and I feel sad that he works so hard and tries so hard to make a difference and thereby has to look at so much negative stuff. I think it colors his attitudes and he needs our prayers,
He is attempting to inform the public, but for many (at least me) his articles are so detailed that they become too much to wade through and they are hard to skim…..and I am more interested in politics than most.
And then there is this:
Dividing and censoring the President’s supporters is not helpful, imo.
I don’t expect perfection on our side and I don’t think it is helpful to have that mindset. If we see people working on behalf of the President and mostly doing their job then I think it is worthwhile to support them and save our ire and fire for the truly evil on the other side.
As others here have said, our primary goal should be the re- election of President Trump. To keep him in office we need a Republican House and Senate. We need Mitch and we need Lindsey so we should probably say and do all we can to help them and other Republicans get re-elected.
We need an energized and enthusiastic army of digital warriors searching out the truth and getting it out to the rest of the public because we sure as hell cannot rely on the vacant, leftist tools in the MSM.
We need one another and we need to be able to communicate with one another not only to inform, but to support when the going gets rough so that we can stay in the fight.
Think about it this way….
Do you want to be part of a family that is constantly criticizing and finding fault with one another snd fighting amongst themselves or one which exhibits appreciation for one another and allows disagreements without throwing the offending member out?
Using the word “family” for the President’s supporters might be a stretch but in a sense it is the finest and best description of the kind of attitude held by its members that strengthens them and helps them be effective and successful in the world.
This message—WWG1WGA—is bringing people together all over the world. Hopefully it will help
Last words last sentence: All tree people.
Well said, LM. I agree wholeheartedly.
I have followed this Sundance drama reveal & everyone’s thoughts. I am in Wheatie’s, Aubergine’s camp: that re-electing President Trump is the only thing that matters a whit at this time. I followed this Big Ugly stuff pretty well since Judge Collyer’s order July 2017. A lawyer for 30 years, I used to be pretty respected in my tiny legal niche, yet this is so complex, overwhelming, & of course not my area, that I feel like a total maroon (spelling joke). You all blow me away how smart you are, which is 1 of 2 reasons I rarely comment. (2nd reason is techno). Normies’ eyes glaze over… mine too at times. The corruption of our legal system is staggering. That much I get!!!
I don’t have your creds, yamabudo, but I’ve been following it closely from the beginning, too. But you’re right, it has gotten so complex and widespread it is hard to make sense of a lot of it. If we’re struggling, think how it must be for normies to try to get up to speed.
I’m really glad you spoke up. It’s reassuring to me that a lawyer who has been following this closely finds it hard to follow. Speak up more often, please! You’re worth listening to.
You are so kind. Fwiw ,my dad, WWII vet, healthy 93, atty 25 yrs, law professor 25 more years, multiple post JD degrees, feels same as we do in regard to the complexity, difficulty, etc. I have always felt whatever justice we see will be in the 2d term. As a taxpayer, all this chicanery is beyond infuriating.
Oh, glad to hear your dad’s thoughts, too! God bless him.
To avoid offending Wolfe or anyone here, i posted my reply to my site.
IF enough want it here I will post it. lets just say I am DISAPPOINTED in SD. BIGLY.
http://politicalprognosticator.politics.blog/2020/08/19/my-response-to-the-sd-reveal
I think you are correct that there is a much larger picture here, a forest, if you will, that Sundance is missing for the trees.
BINGO. Sundance is looking at a BRANCH of a BIG oak tree, IGNORING the rest.
I agree with you that he has the Durham timeline all wrong, which is leading him to make some incorrect suppositions.
Exactly my point, simple and concise, TY Linda.
I have been the remedial student multiple times throughout the years, both here and at OT and fellow treepers have always been helpful and kind.
This question is not being anti SD … I still read/scan OT daily (mostly scan and scroll and I am looking news and events – great comments bring tidbits from all over)
Anyway … I don’t “get” it.
Why was revealing the name of the prosecutor/investigator supposed to be such a HUGE boom? What was all of the fuss? What coverage and what was the point? What big impact was that reveal supposed to have?
It doesn’t seem to have been such a big deal … are the outward going waves from the reveal still being felt or still building and then will be felt?
SD thinks people didn’t know things … did they not know or not care and pretent to not know?
SD is as clear as mud on this one. Don’t feel alone in your confusion.
As far as I knew, the name of the investigator was a SIDE ITEM Sundance picked up while delivering his MAIN MESSAGE.
Nobody seems to be following up on his main message that I’ve seen. I’m not even positive what the EXACT main message is yet.
OK – thanks to both of you all for answering. So I am not lost in not understanding but am actually up to date as far as it has gone. Got it.
I will keep on keeping on with what I am doing to MAGA and win 2020 as the last 4 yrs are still better than under HIllary or any other dem … but President Trump could have done so much more good without crimes against him and I am Very concerned about our future if no justice is brought.
Brian Cates posted a thread questioning the latest SD post about William Aldenberg. Worth a read if you want a skeptic’s take on it, but the theory at the end is why I’m posting this:
“This actually makes more sense than Sundance tracking down Aldenberg, getting him to sit for an interview that turned into a briefing, and then some kind of contractual relationship.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1297557809291198465.html