Seeking the Truth About Joe Biden’s Two Marriages
What follows is not exactly what I thought I would write, originally. I didn’t know where, exactly, this would go. I’m not even sure now, that it went where it went. It’s almost too unbelievable. We may be looking at so many lies, the truth may never be found.
Or maybe it will be found, and very soon, and it will be EXTRAORDINARY.
Buckle up. We are now in uncharted territory.
1 – The Cheaters
Something really stinks about Joe Biden. I knew there was something strange about his relationship with Jill, after his first wife’s death in a car accident. I couldn’t really put my finger on it, until I read a piece by the guy who was Jill’s first husband. He claimed that Jill had an AFFAIR with Biden that broke up their marriage.
LINK: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html
ARCHIVE: https://archive.fo/BOn8i
That almost settled things, but I was bothered by the fact that the first husband seemed so POSITIVE toward Biden, despite him breaking up their marriage. That is not entirely impossible – but still, there was something strange about it that just bothered me.
Now, the thing is, the dates leave open a LOT of possibilities – including the possibility that the affair between Jill and Joe starting BEFORE Biden’s first wife Neilia died. And THAT gets ugly.
But I had no idea HOW ugly.
SO – I was already suspicious that things were weird.
But THEN I saw an allegation that Joe and Jill got involved EVEN EARLIER.
https://twitter.com/Johnheretohelp/status/1411074811615449091
(Edit – tweet deleted – but captured by Wayback Machine…..)
Say WHAAAAT?
Sounds like rampant nasty speculation to me, but still, things ARE weird in HAIR-SNIFFER PARADISE.
Actually, I got to THAT tweet through an even more shocking tweet – a reply to it.
Let’s just save that image…..
In fact, let’s save that tweet, too…..
And then there was ANOTHER one in the thread.
THAT is a much better picture!
Heck – let’s save that, too.
Replies to this tweet include assertions that this was taken when Jill was divorced and Neilia was gone, as well as that it was photoshopped.
Seems like an insoluble mess, right?
2 – Finding The Photo
Well, the truth is, this picture appears in a German online magazine, and was allegedly posted by one of Jill’s granddaughters on Twitter.
Nach dem tragischen Verlust seiner Frau und Tochter 1972 lernte Senator Joe Biden seine zukünftige Frau die Englischlehrerin Jill Jacobs bei einem Blind Date kennen. Die beiden heirateten am 17. Juni 1977 in New York, 1981 kam die gemeinsame Tochter Ashley zur Welt.
Enkelin Naomi twitterte dieses schöne Bild der beiden damals frisch Verliebten mit den Worten: “Zusammen sind die beiden weit gekommen”.
Translated:
After the tragic loss of his wife and daughter in 1972, Senator Joe Biden met his future wife, English teacher Jill Jacobs, on a blind date. The two married in New York on June 17, 1977, and their daughter Ashley was born in 1981.
Granddaughter Naomi tweeted this beautiful picture of the two newly in love with the words: “Together, the two have come a long way”.
Naomi is identified here:
Let’s just save that tweet…..
Let’s just save that picture:
Looks like a nice family. Just sayin’.
Her name is Naomi Biden. Examples:
Turns out that she’s on Twitter as (at)NaomiBiden, and she’s a chip off the old block.
Remember that I told you that the reason that the ONE “fraud state” exception to THIS:
……was because PENNSYLVANIA needed to LOOK GOOD on vaccinations?
There you go. Straight from Biden’s granddaughter’s mouth. When THE PARTY needs you to look good, other party members make sure it happens.
Whether it’s REAL or not.
Anyway, check out Naomi Biden’s Twitter timeline. Very CCP. Errr, I mean ACP.
So I kept digging through the standard Democrat Communist party line, and THERE IT WAS!
Let’s just save that…..
AH! We’re finally THERE. We’ve shown that the photo is AUTHORITATIVE – meaning that it was “blessed” by being released by a Biden granddaughter. In a world of disinformation as one of the most powerful weapons of the LEFT, I don’t even trust this photo to be real when released by a Biden family member. But it is AUTHORITATIVE. It was released by them AS IF it was real, to make people believe it was real.
And where THAT goes from there, we will find out.
3 – How Old Is Jill In That Photo?
This is the gazillion dollar question.
We had some BETS MADE in a prior thread.
I challenged people to guess the ages of Jill and Joe in that photo, avoiding any reliance on externals – just their knowledge of humans, such as their own kids, neighbors, relatives, etc.
The exact comment was HERE: https://www.theqtree.com/2021/07/03/2021%c2%b707%c2%b703-joe-biden-didnt-win-daily-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-760607
You’re welcome to go look at the answers and generate statistics. My rough estimate is that most people figured she was in her late teens. The OUTLYING answers were early middle teens (13-15) and 20s. Most opinions seemed to be in the 16-19 range.
High school girl. That is our “group vision stereo consensus”.
This starts to become problematic.
4 – The Timelines Collide
Jill Biden was born June 3, 1951.
LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Biden
ARCHIVE: https://archive.fo/ZquKp
She was married to Bill Stevenson on February 7, 1970, at the age of 18, 4 months shy of 19.
Thus, the picture SEEMS to be from BEFORE she married Bill Stevenson. It is extremely unlikely that the picture is from AFTER her marriage to Bill Stevenson, which ENDED in separation in October 1974 and civil divorce in May 1975.
The Bidens allege that they met during that separation period, in March of 1975. They were married on June 17, 1977.
March of 1975 would have made Jill Biden 23 years old, 3 months shy of 24 years old.
That is at the extreme of her potential age in that picture, based on the reckonings of our group. It is an extreme minority position, with more opinions at the OTHER extreme.
But let’s go from there to the Bill Stevenson story – that goes as follows.
According to Bill, Jill met Joe through Bill’s political support for Joe Biden.
Here is his chronology listed in the Daily Mail:
- Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview
- Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up
- The way the Bidens tell their story, Joe saw a picture of Jill in March 1975 — after her marriage crashed — and they went on a date and have been together since
- But Stevenson claims he and his then wife met Biden in 1972, when they worked on then-New Castle County Councilman Biden’s first campaign for the Senate
- At the time Biden was married to his first wife Neilia who died with their daughter Naomi in a car crash between the election and Biden taking his Senate seat
- ‘Jill and I sat in the Bidens’ kitchen,’ Stevenson said. ‘We worked on his campaign’
- Stevenson said he first suspected Biden and Jill were having an affair in August 1974; He was then 26, Jill was 23 and Joe was 31
- ‘One of her best friends told me she thought Joe and Jill were getting a little too close,’ he said
- That October he got confirmation when a man informed him Biden was driving his wife’s car and the two of them got into a fender bender
- Stevenson said: ‘I asked Jill to leave the house, which she did… I considered Joe a friend. I’m not surprised he fell in love with Jill’
Now, I’m going to be blunt and early here – I no longer trust THIS story, either. I think it’s a “Clinton special” – a substitute scandal, like Cuomo’s kissing scandal, which is used to deflate the “he murdered thousands of old people on purpose for politics” scandal.
But let’s play along. After all, if I’m right, and it’s an “alibi” of some kind, it will be close to the truth.
Stevenson claims that Jill and Joe met through HIM (convenient) in 1972. THAT would make Jill Biden roughly 21 years old.
Leaving Jill’s age aside, THAT makes a lot of sense. Now what is VERY cool is that we HAVE a picture of Joe Biden campaigning in 1972, thanks to the Daily Mail.
You can see Neilia – she’s going to die in a car accident in December of that year, AFTER Joe Biden WINS his Senate seat in November but BEFORE he goes to Washington. Their 1-year-old daughter Naomi will die with her.
Now it may just be the clothes, but I would almost swear that Joe Biden looks a few years older in this photo, than he does in the “Jill on his lap” photo.
But all we have done at this point, really, is to introduce doubts.
But NOW, I’m going to introduce even more doubt. What if somebody came up with a PICTURE of Jill Biden during the early 1970s?
And before I forget to mention it, what if that picture comes up in a story about Bill Stevenson having a lurid affair of his own which allegedly led to multiple murders? And what if the first murder was soon after Joe Biden married his ex, Jill?
Watch out – this whole thing gets WEIRD very fast.
Yes – that is Jill and Bill Stevenson. Jill’s style here looks very 1972-1974.
Let’s look at her more closely. First 2X magnification.
Now even closer – 4X.
This looks like a 19, 20, or 21-year-old girl to me. That would make her a sophomore, junior, or senior in college. Perfect fit – read Jill’s biography in Wikipedia. This matches both her biography and the framework of the Stevenson story.
However, she is noticeably OLDER than the picture of the girl on Biden’s lap.
What’s interesting to me, is that I knew girls at that time, who were AGED as in the “lap girl photo”, but wore fashions like the girl in this photo, which styles were popular at the time. Same hairstyle and top – bandana around the neck – but these girls were younger – high-school aged – facially very much like the girl in the lap photo, or just a bit older.
Thus, it seems entirely possible to me, that the photo on Joe Biden’s lap was taken while Jill was in high school, possibly babysitting for the Bidens. Maybe she had a prom, or a dance, and was like a member of the family at that point.
I could insert some classic movie poster about this, but you know what I’m thinking.
But then let’s just set that all aside now, and see the context of that OTHER weird story from the Daily Mail.
Which newspaper may be following the angle that I’m thinking.
5 – The Timelines Always Get Them
MORE at the link….including videos of Stevenson….telling his story….
ARCHIVE: https://archive.fo/7rz2G
Now – just check out this “memorable scene” from Stevenson…..via the article…..
Stevenson alleges that the next day, Robert showed up at the apartment ‘pounding on the door’ and that he slammed a wad of rolled up cash in Kathie’s face.
That’s a bit of a shocker there, but before we go on, ask what better class of theories might fit that memory.
Now go on.
Ten days later, she vanished.
He thinks Robert – who has long been accused of murdering his wife but has never been charged over it – was driven to kill her after discovering their affair.
‘This is something that has to be righted. I was together with them and he went crazy. I feel like I’m the missing link in this case,’ he said.
Stevenson said he watched Kathie ‘grow up into a beautiful young woman’ after their families became friends when they were kids.
‘She was that cool little sister – I watched her grow up to be a beautiful young woman.’
He says in 1974, he and Jill hosted Kathie and Robert Durst at their home.
He says Jill and Kathie ‘hit it off’. ‘Both very smart, they’re similar people. At that age. It was hard not to hit it off.
‘I remember him talking to himself in my garage. To me it was like, “oh my god.”‘
Years later, once his marriage to Jill had broken up and after Jill and Joe had gotten married, Kathie started confiding in Stevenson, he says.
‘She said I’m having a real problem with Robert and I’m scared to death.
She said he was being violent with her. At that point, she couldn’t trust anybody around her that knew Robert.
‘I don’t know why she picked me but I’m glad she did.
‘But I do feel that I let her down. I look back at those last two months and go, “what could I have done differently.”
He says he visited Kathie five times between 1981 and 1982. They stayed at Kathie’s apartment in New York City and it was during that time that it became romantic.
I think the DM may be thinking the same thing I am. They have THIS as a sidebar to what I just quoted.
TIMELINE OF BIDEN AND DURST MARRIAGES
- 1970: Jill and Bill marry
- 1973: Kathie and Robert Durst marry
- 1974: Bill says he and Jill hosted Robert and Kathie Durst at their home
- 1974/1975: Jill and Bill separate
- 1977: Jill and Joe marry
- 1982: Kathie Durst disappears
Is there a connection? That might lead to “lives lost”? Read that article.
Can you guess the word I’m thinking?
I strongly suspect that SEVERAL stories are falling apart. It’s not just about dementia now.
W
PS – check out the “record-correcting troll comments” on the DM articles. They seem professional to me.
References
Daily Mail Article on Jill Biden’s Affair with Joe Biden:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html
Archive of Affair Article:
Daily Mail Article on Jill Biden’s First Marriage Relation To Murder:
Archive of Murder Article:
Appreciate this post Wolf. I have been watching it come out drip by drop and knew something was very off, but no way could I ever put it together like you can.
Thank you! The DM reporting is really leading the way here, and I suspect their reporters know the score, even if it looks like their editors think they’re helping Biden by selling these “approved backstop stories”.
Layers of lies. If one breaks through, the “real story” catches the fall. But I suspect that the “real real story” is very close to that picture from the granddaughter.
They really do feel like the media can protect them.
I have to thank one of the trolls on the DM, who said Bill Stevenson was a liar. THAT was a key piece of information. When I realized he was likely telling a “stopgap”, “firewall”, deflection scandal story, then it opened up all the possibilities.
I suspect that JHTH is far closer to the truth than wrong – at least on the first part of his accusation. Likely a steamy moment with the babysitter – an abortion – and all the things that followed.
People know the truth and Trump has stated so many times. But the citizens had no clue or didn’t want to accept just how deep and ugly it was beyond the rosy glasses they wore.
And the “elites” are so intertwined in their corruption that all it takes is for someone to pull on the few loose strings and the entire ball unravels.
I believe it’s coming and I believe that Trump knows this and is watching with amusement.
It’s just – OMG – it’s like Q is RIGHT.
😎😂😅😜😥😳
(mixed feelings…..)
I’ll make this comment here. I smoke cigarettes and my dh and I sit and roll a box a week at our home office desks. Like I’ve stated before, I wasn’t brought up watching much tv and it wasn’t until I married him (a huge tv/movie buff) that I was really exposed to tv series or movies.
We watch and rewatch a certain fbi related series while rolling cigarettes. I said to him last week….interesting that many of these fbi series came out around the same time, showing the fbi as good looking, good guys eh? He agreed.
He stopped being the tv series buff once we married, so no clue what’s on tv nowadays but, hmmmm to selling the fbi in a positive light in the early 2000’s.
Yeah, there has been a lot of “image control” via Hollywood, and FBI has been a prime recipient of that stuff!!!
This site is loaded with information and pictures about Jill, Joe, Neila, etc. It’s too much for me to process, but if you scroll down there’s some interesting reading about Jill Giacoppo’s Sicilian family roots.
https://neiliabiden.com/#jill
It’s also been noted that adult women that dress like teens (and/or teen whores) do it for a reason, whether they realize it or not.
I think some women get stuck in that mentality. Men, too, for that matter. Endless high school. And I can see why. If the teenage years are “working for you”, who wants it to stop? It actually takes a certain amount of fortitude to turn that crap off and get serious about life. To REALLY grow up.
I met a lot of girls AND guys back then who not only didn’t want to leave that lifestyle, but refused in practice.
Wolf Moon
But there are ways for women over age 40 to look stylish and attractive, and not have to spend $$$ to make that happen. It’s the women who think they can pass for 40 when they’re 70 that can be a problem.
My part of Texas is just filled with heavy oldsters in tank tops and Daisy Dukes.
Where is the dignity and self-respect?
Tossed out like God was tossed out!
Eye sores, they are.
In Germany is a saying ” They look in the back like a lyceum in the front like a museum”.
😄
In other words, a Mausoleum 😀
(not exactly the Commodores idea of a Brick House 🙂 )…..
🤣
🙂
Yeah. Sad and gooky.
Reminds me of this: 😆
I was down the pub the other night and overheard three very hefty women talking at the bar.
Their accents sounded Scottish, so I approached and asked, “Hullo, are ye three bonnie lassies from Scotland?”
One of them angrily screeched, “It’s Wales; Wales, you bloody idiot!”
So I apologised and replied, “I am so sorry. Are ye three whales from Scotland?” And that’s the last thing I remember!
Ahhahahahaha!!! 😂😂😂
Some women in their 70s dressing like lamb look better than teens dressing the same way who look like mutton …
The difference is the same: ‘heavy’.
True Dat. 😄
I know a lot who are still refusing even in their 60s.
In the Joe and Jill case she would have added motivation to keep the “young” in the relationship because he is compulsively attracted to young girls.
It’s never going to be enough to attract him. But she’s got dirt to bind him to her
https://twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1413599242057248771?s=19
“And I can see why. If the teenage years are “working for you”, who wants it to stop?”
There’s a cosmic cautionary tale in there somewhere!
AMEN!!! Gotta grow up.
Interesting indeed and a lot of info.
The site has been archived!
https://archive.fo/FkyF9
Thissss is why people should not lie and make up fairy tale stories. In the old days it took on the ground investigative work and journalists to uncover these things.
The internet has made it very easy for us to track down and document info. I am still as baffled today as I was when everyone around me jumped onto social media to post their entire lives and pictures, why do that????
I was working on my cyber security degree and just shook my head. I was also well aware of the governments interest in this field and utilizing the sheep to give up info. That’s all I’ll say on that topic.
But you’ve proven my point again with this topic Wolf.
And yes, imho that’s a teen girl on his lap.
Regarding Bill Stevenson’s “Clinton Special” — one feels there is a distinct possibility that Stevenson was given a “hint” by “someone” to come up with a story that could act as, first, a “decoy” to take any heat off Biden; and, second, as something to keep Stevenson off “Someone’s BodyCount” list.
Then there’s Biden’s granddaughter Naomi, who comes across like a Mafia-style “disinformation disseminator.”
Then there’s “Dr. Jill” Biden’s choices of dressing. It appears that she prefers to wear items that make her look a couple decades younger than her real age. Even that mid-80’s style blue chintz dress on the Vogue cover. Not to say that she has to wear things that make her look like Ma Kettle — she really needs the help of a professional dresser.
I think Jill Biden always knew how to get a rise out of men. ALWAYS. This ties in with what Elize is saying. I think she felt that POWER over Joe Biden as a teen, and didn’t want to give it up.
That attraction was always there. Even after she got married to Stevenson, she still felt an attraction to Biden.
I can see a LOT more now.
I was stationed at Dover, lived in several of the towns in DE, had to travel to McGuire several times for training and was familiar with the area in general because of being raised in a neighboring state. That entire Wilmington, Philly, NJ area was a disgusting cesspool. I was very happy when I left!
I can imagine! BIDENWORLD.
He is definitely representative of the area. /shivers
Shades of “Westworld”… (Worstworld???)…..
Excuse me? I was born in Brooklyn, then lived in Queens Village, grew up in Monmouth County and now live (30+ years) in rural southern New Jersey, south of Philly. Trust me, apart from Camden and AC, it’s anything but a cesspool.
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You just called Wilmington, Philly and South Jersey a disgusting cesspool. I’ve lived in NJ all my adult life. I’m disputing your statement.
I’m glad that you are happy where you live. I found the areas unpleasant.
“Unpleasant”, for whatever your reasons might be is quite different than the “disgusting cesspool” broad brush.
It’s my understanding that food fights are left to occur on another forum.
If someone didn’t like the city I lived in, I’d just shrug and leave them to their opinion.
Reason #2 I don’t post on forums. I’ll go back to just reading and not posting.
Thank you for the forum Wolf. 😊
I didn’t realize that standing up for myself was a problem. I merely suggested that you might be a little more careful with your language. That’s a food fight? I’m definitely not the only resident here that would take offense at someone offhandedly trashing their neck of the woods. HAGD 🤔
Don’t Go! Your perspective is valued.
There are four good choices in a confrontation:
Push back
Ignore
Walk it off
Apologize
I leave it up to everybody what they choose to do – but I always counsel to toughen up, no matter what. Take the blows and stand. Gain strength.
Most people pick walking it off over walking away. I just give them the time they need, however long that is.
Please don’t let this stop you from posting. The ribbing on NJ and NJ pushing back has been around since before I was even born.
Exactly.
And what was so wrong with Old Jersey??? 😀
(OK, it was halfway across the globe, but it’s all relative, eh? )…..
Is AC Atlantic City?
yes
Remember that map cthulu posted the other day about states hating each other? I said that part about the mid-Atlantic states hating NJ, and NJ hating everyone back was accurate.
https://www.theqtree.com/2021/07/10/2021%c2%b707%c2%b710-joe-biden-didnt-win-daily-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-764215
Have to admit that I’ve taken part in several of these!!!
That’s why I posted Tom Lehrer’s “National Brotherhood Week” (which probably no-one remembers anymore).
Epic line… “and everybody hates the Jews”…
and the ending:
Be nice to people who are inferior to you
It’s only for a week so have no fear,
Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year…
Anyone remember TW3? “That Was The Week That Was” ….
Tom Lehrer wrote most, if not all, of the songs for that…
(Now the theme song is going through my head…)….
(Oddly similar to the Hamm’s beer jingle(!) )…
I do recall that song.
A bit before my time but my parents were big Lehrer fans.
I still remember my Dad’s best friend nearly falling out of the chair laughing at “Vatican Rag.”
He has all of his songs up as PDFs now, with words and music (or just the words, if it’s someone else’s song, e.g. “Sociology” being “Choreography” from “White Christmas”).
Here’s the sheet music – Tom Lehrer has released everything to the public domain!
https://tomlehrersongs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/national-brotherhood-week-music.pdf
The whole ball of works is at https://tomlehrersongs.com …
Interesting that “Lehrer” means “teacher” in German.
Not sure if he has a doctorate, but if he does, that would make him Professor Doktor Lehrer…. in the reverse order that the titles are conferred…
I was about to write “I’m pretty sure he has a doctorate” but then I decided to check.
He basically gave up on his dissertation after dissertating (if that is a word) or just plain dissing for fifteen years. So he at least TRIED to get a doctorate.
He probably was never a full professor as a consequence.
What caught my eye about the pic on the lap is Jill’s hair and headband. STRAIGHT out of about 1966-67. I’ve seen too many movies and photos of the time period of people in that sort of class. Not everyone had sprayed and coiffed dos that were hard to sleep on.
Plus, the fading of the photograph puts it in the later 60s. Film quality at that point takes on that yellowish sheen as it ages.
As for the cover story, if the MSM walks in lockstep on it – and the DM is as swampy as all the rest when it comes down to it – the narratives will cement to the point that contrary information becomes cognitive dissonance. No one who is invested in the narrative is going to believe the real truth, whatever that is.
So we’re looking at 15-16 if that is correct.
Yeah, that’s a scandal. THAT is control.
I might go as young as 14, but I don’t think so.
Given her body “development” in the various pics I agree that she’s more in the 15-16 range. I think you’re right that 14 is pushing it.
Not to mention the top or dress style. Just enough at the top to keep it on, but not so top heavy that you can’t wear it.
The question I have who babysits with an outfit like that? Whose parent lets their daughter walk around like that except at a pool party?
She was on her own! No parents! 23 or 24.
She was in prime CATCH A MAN age. This all makes sense now.
Right. 23 – 24 year-old babysitter sporting a much younger look.
Stevenson said he first suspected an affair in 1974, when his wife passed on meeting an up-and-coming rock star who was set to play at his Delaware club.
“I know exactly when it was,” he told the Daily Mail. “Bruce Springsteen was going to play at The Stone Balloon and I had to go to Northern New Jersey to pay him in advance.
“’I asked Jill to go with me and she said no — she had things to do, she had to look after Joe’s kids, Beau and Hunter. It was kind of a big deal to go meet Springsteen,” he continued. “I had no idea she and Joe were that kind of friendly.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
Yup. That was when he got the wake-up call. And others were hinting to him, too. There had to have been rumors.
And during that time, he surely blabbed to people – including the Dursts.
That obliterates her version of Joe somehow getting her phone number and she was surprised
Right and I’m thinking she pursued Joe not the other way around. Wolf comment about her trading up explains it.
Honestly, Stevenson and the hippie ballroom days just doesn’t seem like a very “Jill Jacobs” lifestyle. That picture with the hippies – she was NOT fitting in.
I think there is some honesty there that they grew apart.
And no way to end a decaying relationship faster than an AFFAIR with somebody too big for the future ex to do anything about it, other than ACCEPT THE OUTCOME.
If she was 23 or 24 in that pic, I’d be mighty surprised. Maybe 15.
I’m thinking Jill was TRYING hard to look younger. That explains why DePat sees her sporting sixties stuff. THAT is how Jill would remember youth, and look young to Biden. I think Jill, and if any IC was behind her, that IC, was appealing to Biden’s pedo side.
This is all very interesting.
She wasn’t baby-sitting since Joe was there too. She was visiting Joe and sons.
Exactly. She was telling Stevenson she was babysitting – but Joe was there, so it’s more like a visit. Perfect excuse in leftist virtueland.
And she is babysitting – she’s the one taking care of the kids while Joe is on the phone, doing deals, etc.
This is a picture of Joe Biden in 1966. He has too much hair for the above photo.
What I am thinking is WAY down a rabbit hole.
I don’t think the girl in the white dress is Jill Biden.
The shape of her face is completely different than the girl in the other photo Wolf posted. The girl in white has a narrow pointed chin. The other girl’s face is square with a wide chin.
I think they posted this photo claiming it was Jill to deflect from the truth that some other teenage girl is sitting in Joe’s lap.
That’s my conspiracy theory of the day.
For that matter, put the two Joe images side by side, and there’s subtle differences at the eyes, the chin, in the color pic the man is heavier, he’s also not smiling and that’s something Joe always does.
So, is Naomi passing off pictures of people other than Joe and Jill as Joe and Jill.
Good catch.
Well, it’s a thought. Nothing twisted is beyond these people.
Where is the Biden pic from? I think getting a set of pictures of him may solve this.
I found it doing a search of Joe Biden in 1966. I’ll see what else I can find.
Here are some more:
?auto=webp&s=db5d7cd898eff36a80ec00b2bcbd0298c09bc8a8
This one says he is 26:
I really think the “girl in the lap” photo was taken in the 70s.
OK – he was born November 20, 1942, so age 26 would be 1968. But 4 years later, in 1972, he’s lost almost all his hair in front, and it is highly visibly receded? And he gave up a young Kennedy look for a heavy combover?
We need some EVENT photos from the 60s.
BUT if this is right, then at least the trajectory of the 68 photo is right. But we need an event photo to lock it in.
Sorry THIS is the 68 photo – the one with shorter hair is 66.
He’s got bell-bottom jeans in the photo. Early 70s for sure.
History of Bell Bottoms…..
Later, the bell bottom trend got famous again during the 1960s. They became a fad among both men and women. As the American youth became more involved in radical political and artistic movements, a culture of rebellion began. These young people rejected the mainstream fashion and were often tagged as ‘Bohemians’ or ‘Hippies’. They were known to shop for clothes from the cheap, Army Surplus stores, and this is where they found the Navy’s denim bell-bottoms.
Adorned with embroidery and patches, these pants represented the hippie culture. The designs soon got famous, and people started turning their straight pants into bell-bottoms by inserting a triangle of fabric into the side seam of the pants. Later, fashion designers picked up on bell-bottoms and soon the trend was selling under famous brand names.
The 1970s was the era well-known for the introduction of disco. The disco era is famous for its flared pants, wide-collars and high heeled shoes. It is this period where the bell-bottoms became a huge success. This era was known for bell-bottom jeans or pants that flared out from the bottom of the calf and had slightly curved hems. In 1971, blues rock group ‘Derek and the Dominos’ also mentioned bell-bottoms in one of their popular music singles ‘Bell Bottom Blues’.
If thats him its the youngest ive even seen. But likely, his sonsvlook like him there.
This picture claims to be from November 1972
found here
https://www.biography.com/political-figure/beau-biden
Excellent! These are ages 2.75 and 3.75. In February 1973 they will be 3 and 4. In just 3 or 4 months, look how much their faces have advanced.
Check this out! This is a picture of Joe in June of 1974 in his Washington office.
It’s in an article where there is NO mention of Jill, and he is apparently seeing some famous journalist lady in Washington.
This looks like a completely different trajectory from what is being painted now – EXCEPT for his ambition to be President!
https://www.washingtonian.com/1974/06/01/joe-biden-kitty-kelley-1974-profile-death-and-the-all-american-boy/
My beautiful millionaire wife…
What a crock. Her family owned a diner in working class Auburn, NY. She was teaching English in a Syracuse City School. Other news articles talk about how broke she and Joe were and all they had was a Corvette that car salesman Joe Sr. gave them.
I think this guy was a chameleon. Neilia used it – and it got used back on her by the Deep State.
The Soviets / CIA / DS pulled off that accident, IMO.
They’ve had an enormous amount of time to muddy the waters.
To me, that Instagram post is some kind of misdirection. I think it’s the DATE. I think it was an intentional POST-DATING of the picture, to feed Snopes something to debunk realizations that their story wasn’t holding water.
OMG – I GOT IT – I GOT IT – I GOT IT !!! A connection. It’s either in opposition or in concert.
The FIRST Daily Mail article from Bill Stevenson saying there was an affair went out on August 17, 2020, which I believe was also the DNC convention. Jill’s Instagram post was August 20, 2020. Naomi’s tweet wasn’t until 4 days after the election., November 7.
Jill also tweeted out this lap picture on August 18, 2020.
Yup. It was definitely a media effort.
I’m curious what the total number of media responses to the Stevenson drop was. We have two posts by Jill which were echoed most effectively by NEGATIVES, and one media back-up, all of it followed by SNOPES and fact checkers.
You know what? I think they ran negatives on themselves to blow up the pictures as a media confrontation of Stevenson’s allegations of an affair. It’s a cunning kind of self-hoaxing. Push it out, cry “Pedo!” falsely, prove virtuous in the fact check.
Yup. That’s it. I also think they’re using that picture to make her look virtuous, when in fact it was the opposite.
It’s a slick form of reverso! Get us to flail at the wrong accusation. TRICKY.
And we look like bad in the process.
We have to suck it up and face it – but THAT is how we learn their ATTACKS.
All con jobs prey on our weaknesses and sins. BUT they are still CON JOBS – and after we admit what WE did, we can go understand what they did and WHY.
I learned A LOT today!
AMEN!!!
Learning from errors is ESSENTIAL!!!
It also discredits conservatives in the chat realm. The lap pics are out there with people insisting she’s 15, when it’s clearly not true. This makes us look like we’re making up dirt because we’re on opposite sides of the political spectrum. That is what the Left does.
It’s a very slick op. But watch the timelines and you see how it works.
But let’s be honest – she looks young. Images are like that. So it’s only clear *upon investigation* to a significant number of people.
I won’t even guarantee that all here will be convinced by those other pictures, even though I think they’re very convincing myself.
I asked the group that question for a reason, because I was generally curious, and it looks like MOST of us thought she was 4-8 years younger than she really (almost certainly) was. Thus, the picture is misleading – possibly intentionally so.
I agree that she looks very young in those pics. I also know that it’s possible for people to look much younger than they are (and older, too). That’s why I don’t put much stock in pics that people insist “prove” something. Too many factors could be at play.
Pictures have lost a lot of value as proof for a lot of reasons. But still, I gained some great intelligence today.
They’re sensitive on the Stevenson allegations, and they used a deceptive means to immunize on it, rather than proving he’s a liar.
We learned the means of this defense, and we can watch for replays.
Most importantly, we can take that nugget we found – their sensitivity on Stevenson – and examine new things.
Exactly!
My daughter was 25 and as second job taught chemistry and math in Junior College the students thought she was a student because she looked so young.
Yes some people look very young she still does.
THAT makes all KINDS of twisted sense!
Gotta keep this on the table!
Good find on the other photo of Jill! They just don’t look like the same person to me. And Joe is older in that photo than 1966.
This whole thing is weird.
If the girl on the lap is a deception, Snopes is playing along, but they’re also playing along on 1975, and I’m just not buying that the girl on the lap is 24 years old.
But IMO also the girl on the lap and adult Jill Biden have certain very unique eye features that are conserved, and most of my money is that it’s her. As for that B/W photo of Biden I don’t trust it. I think somebody helped his hair, one way or another. Overexposed, overcontrasted, something. I think a sharp color pic of him would show SKIN up there.
I tend to agree, I think it’s Jill on the lap. The age of the photo, the way her hair curls and the shading affect the look of her chin in the lap photo.
He’s got damn near bell-bottoms on in that photo from Instagram. Definitely 70s.
But ultra-wides like he has were trendy in 1968.
Bootcuts fully wide in 1963.
Could also be airbrushed, one of the “Photoshop” tools of the old days. Wasn’t uncommon for a photojournalist to, erm, Dr. a photo if needed… directly on the negative, sometimes…
Does Jill have a younger sister?
She’s the oldest of five girls.
Could it have been one of her younger siblings perched on Joe’s knee?
And, BTW, anyone with 5 girls would definitely have been doing “hand-me-downs” in their wardrobes at the time….
Anything’s possible but if you scroll down in this link there’s a picture of 3 brunettes and 1 much younger dirty blond.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/a/jill-biden-joe-election-2020-philadelphia-pennsylvania-20201014.html
And check this out – the Biden campaign dates this photo as 1976.
This is June of 1976. This makes the kids roughly 6.5 and 7.5 years old. First and second grade. What do people think?
Here is another one of those pictures. AGAIN, the Biden campaign is saying they’re from 1976, whereas Jill herself later says they’re from 1975.
I think it’s in 75 or even a bit earlier. I’m going by how old the boys look.
I think the media is saying 1976 because if they had their first date in 75 it would seem odd she would already be chummy with his sons.
Anyone else remember this….
Jill said she received her first phone call from Joe to “tune in” to watch him speak at the 1972 Dem Convention. Lines up with what her ex husband said about then meeting in 72.
Yup! I agree. Summer 74 or summer 75 – probably June. The Biden campaign “lied away” from the problematic 74 date, knowing that if it was questioned, they could “fall back” to 1975. Later, now, after it was much safer, they could say 1975 and it was no big deal, because they are denying a direct accusation that it was 1974 and Biden was stealing a donor’s wife.
This is a great recollection about the phone call and 1972 – that means Biden was already on a personal basis with her before his wife died.
Remember that his wife was MORE CONSERVATIVE – a Republican – and she was the BRAINS who got him elected.
Once he was elected, she was a liability.
Lantos got him to go to Hungary – resort in the mountains with Jill – MK ULTRA treatments (Soviet brand – “brainwashing”).
This is ALL adding up. This guy was a serious investment by the treasonous Intelligence Branch, in bed with Moscow and Beijing.
That 1974 article I just found (see link) shows ZERO sign of Jill – not even mentioned. I think she was a secret. I think he may have done and regretted the wild thing with her in summer of 1972 or later.
Thus, he may have turned to her for companionship after 12/72.
Posting a possible timeline as a new comment.
Yup. If that’s the case, then he was keeping her a secret until Spring of 1975.
I believe a lot of “historical” photos are fake. Especially ones involving CIA-backed elite families, politicians, and others figures that serve the cabal agenda.
Exactly. If some of the later “young-looking” pictures are fakes – even “deep fakes” then it would serve as an escape route.
I tend to believe they are not fakes. Why? Because I know a lady with professional fashion skills, in her 50s, who can pass for 25, and it’s shocking when she does it. She literally looks like her daughter’s sister.
So my top theory right now is that Jill Biden set out to win a senator – possibly not just by chance of opportunity.
I think the IB (Intelligence Branch) just does this to run the country.
Shades of “I’d Be Surprisingly Good For You” from “Evita”:
[Eva:]
It seems crazy but you must believe
There’s nothing calculated, nothing planned
Please forgive me if I seem naive
I would never want to force your hand
But please understand, I’d be good for you
I don’t always rush in like this
Twenty seconds after saying hello
Telling strangers I’m too good to miss
If I’m wrong I hope you’ll tell me so
But you really should know, I’d be good for you
I’d be surprisingly good for you
(end excerpt)
Almost as if the wiles and wilds of the DEMONRATS are based on the tinpot dictators and commies of South America… liberation theology???
Sometimes that musical really hits close to home…
Almost like in South America (then again, the KlownsInAction probably had some hand in more than a few “revolutions” down there.
Really makes me thing of Evita, here from the 1980 Emmys. Mandy Patinkin as Che was a sympathetic character, though the real Che was anything but…
Replace “A New Argentina” with “A New USA …”…..
The sick left – always romanticizing commie horrors.
Exactly right. The teased/sprayed thing was early 60s. Replaced by straight, usually parted in the middle. Or that Sassoon cut.
Great post Wolf, nothing would suprise me about these people. Once you remove God or faith in a higher being and believe that you alone are above all others your capable of anything.
Which they prove every day to us who are looking.
Thanks!!!
Yup. I suspect that anybody who attempted blackmail on these “state-blackmailed” creeps would be removed from circulation post-hast.
“You can’t blackmail Joe Biden. Only WE can blackmail Joe Biden.”
“Protection”.
Sounds like cults (e.g. $cientology), secret societies (Skull & Bones), Familigia (such as the many-hooved one of Poligrip Pavement Princess Mafiosi Piglosi d’Alessandro Gambino), and other networks (MS-13, etc.) where “skin” has to be given in order to be “in”. The dirt that these folks hoover up and have on each other insures their compliance and often utter silence, even in the face of severe punishment.
And, in the case of S&B, it could well be a Bonesman as the judge (or purported prosecutor) of the Bonesman defendant. The “shrub” empire is a prime example…..
And I think the Klintoons back at the beginning of the “Billary” years gathered enough dirt on folks in Washington and even Arkansas to control just about everybody in both places, and by extension, most everwhere else…
And Epstein and McAfee didn’t kill themselves, and Bye, Done didn’t win.
Exactly. Just like the Devil has replaced GOD in the Democrat platform and party, he has been invited in to replace GOD in the schools, since 1962.
The Ed. Biz have made themselves God(s). Having no God, the “state” moves in, just as in RED China. And that is exactly what RED China wants. To be everyone’s God, everyone’s controller, and everyone SLAVE to them.
We have neighbors where the second generation have moved in, complete with an uncontrollable, whiny, screamy, obnoxious daughter. Her parents make no effort to control her and her protestations, etc. Just wait until she’s a teenager… But, THEIR generation was taught (at least over here) that there is to be no corporal punishment, indeed no assertion of authority, as that would hurt their sense of self-esteem.
I’m esteeming every day listening to the brat.
No authority (except the state), no shame (because, like, self-esteem), no patience (I WANT IT NOW… or ELSE WAAAAAAHHHHH), no respect for others, and no independent thinking, despite being in total rebellion. The only thinking is a reflex “NO”…
What I find interesting is she looks heavily pregnant in that lap photo.
It could be the fashion, those types of shirts were like that, but the photo is also cut off in a way that would confirm either way.
I wonder if there are other photos from that day or moment.
I thought the same thing at one point. And any mention of abortion doesn’t work. More than likely a child would be born and hidden or adopted by someone else in the family. It used to happen all the time. One of my great grandfathers was such a case.
But HER family wasn’t really practicing Catholic. And I know that abortion was very popular among the “active teen set” around that time. Their moms were all sucking up the propaganda on abortion. Some moms were dragging their daughters in routinely.
No, but it was not socially accepted at all, I understand. It was VERY quiet if it happened.
At this point, it’s all speculation, though.
If she did disappear for 8-12 months, it might show in her history. But it might also be ruled out. That kind of disappearance has to be very carefully arranged. Gotta have a plausible story.
I would bet that Biden is a trophy keeper guy. I bet he wouldn’t allow for his DNA to be aborted.
Yes. Agree.
The photo from the other direction looks like it’s from the same session, although the added graininess makes her look (falsely) even younger.
But if she was mildly preggers? Could be. And yeah – a fuller photo might be very revealing.
This link shows a fuller photo. I don’t think she’s pregnant.
https://www.lenorathompsonwriter.com/beyondnarcissism/jill-biden-how-much-biden-crime-did-she-know-and-kept-secret
Good find. Thank you.
Here is the Instagram post, with link broken:
https(colon)//www.instagram(dot)com/p/CECz9sQhtvo/
Comment on the photo….”Pedophile Joe and just one of his victims”.
Yeah, that was great!
Note that in the comments on Instagram, a defender drops a Snopes “debunking” link:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jill-biden-babysitter-joe-biden/
The link says it IS her, but that it’s as stated, 1975, which I’m almost certain is bullshit.
Lot of girls and boys look chubby at that age and thin out later. Not sure if she is pregnant or just chubby.
I doubt she was pregnant. I think she was swooping in after Neilia was gone.
Neilia is gone December 1972. Jill then spent a year and a half getting closer to Biden behind Bill Stevenson’s back, until by summer of 1974, she was spending lots of time with the kids and Biden.
I’ve never birthed but don’t breasts swell with pregnancy? It may just be the way she’s hugged into Joe, but she looks more “flat” in the older age pics.
See Holly’s link below. Most likely not pregnant.
I’m waiting for the info to leak on what really happened with Neilia.
Imagine if she found out he knocked up the sitter and got her an abortion.
OR had shipped her off for a quiet bastard birth.
Maybe there’s a hole in Jill’s timeline.
But Neilia – that would have been a problem. Would the Senate seat have flipped? He would not have been seated, IMO.
I’ve seen a lot of strange information about that accident.
That link I posted has A LOT of information on the coverup of Neila’s accident and how it impacted the Senate seat. Also says Neila took all the kids because she didn’t want to leave them with the babysitter Jill Jacobs.
The blood sacrifice payment to i/ensure Pedo-Joe’s entrance into the Big Club?
Not to throw too big a monkey wrench into all of this, but I have a personal tale that is somewhat relevant.
When my ex-husband and I were “in love” and dating, we were on a trip and stopped into a bar to have a drink.
They checked ID’s and went away. A few minutes later, the bartender called my ex over and the exchange got heated. I couldn’t hear what they were saying, but the ex came back to the table and said we had to leave. I said why, he said tell you later.
The bartender had said that even though I had I.D., he thought I was under-aged, and they didn’t need “trouble.” They asked us to leave.
The upshot of this is, I was twenty-eight, and the mother of TWO. I was 10 months older than my ex, but he was Italian and older looking because of it. I think the contrast between us contributed to the impression that I was jail-bait.
Anyway, the girl in the lap could be as old as they say. It is possible.
Not impossible!
Ive was young looking for my age until my health problems the last couple years. More than once told my id was fake.
Me, too. I still don’t really look my age. Fifty-six and still naturally blond. A few grays blend in.
It’s starting to look like you’re right here. There are pictures with the kids that match the lap picture.
Me too, Aubergine. I was carded well into my 30’s.
Useful pictures here!
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/jill-biden/
Picture below says it’s an early picture of them in the 70’s. She looks older here as does he, even though it’s said to be the same time frame as the lap picture. Same for some of the early pictures of them at the cbs link.
I’ve looked at a lot 🤢 of pictures of them. The lap picture seems to be an outlier perhaps?
Here is the picture as something WP understands:
Unknown date, from Wikipedia, after they were married, meaning 1977 or later.
She looks her age mid 20 in this picture..
YES!!!
OMG – we have a SOVIET connection in 1977. LIKE BERNIE. From Wikipedia.
They spent their honeymoon at Lake Balaton in the Hungarian People’s Republic, behind the Iron Curtain;[32][33] the destination was chosen upon the recommendation of Hungarian-born Biden staffer Tom Lantos.[34]
Thats an odd place. Honestly when ive seen people take trips to those areas and you have some history on their political background (you should see the emigration history of hollywood) it is always a suspicious cat moment.
This post wolf….i still think about 15 yrs old. No way would i have ever ever sat on an adults lap after the age of 9 or 10, not even a family friend.
Grooming perhaps, but definitely a relationship beyond friend.
You know here is the deal. IF those camping pictures are real, then she’s a 23 or 24 y.o. sitting on a guy’s lap. That’s not that far out. I knew real 18-y.o. girls dating 30-ish guys back in the 1970s, and one marriage that started that way.
I think Jill knew Joe liked her looking young, and played on that “preference”.
She was “moving on up”, so to speak – catching a better fish. Stevenson was a two-bit operator. He was trying to schmooze a senator to get ahead. But she felt the hot gaze of that future senator upon on her, and I’ll bet she decided to give him a taste.
So look at the picture with Stevenson and his hippie friends. She was trying to look OLDER. She was 19-23 and trying to look older. THAT is why she looks older. But in the pictures with Biden, and his KIDS, she was trying to look young and innocent.
She was trying to catch a guy. Maybe she saw how Biden acted around young girls, and tried to slide into that kink.
Yes exactly.
Catfish!
YUCK!!!! Kalifornistan strikes again!
Didn’t Bernie Sanders spend his honeymoon in the Soviet Union also?
Exactly. This was a last-ditch method to get a brainwash going. Sabotaged rendezvous – interrogation and programming.
Never accept a free trip behind any curtain.
There’s a couple early pics of them among these ….I couldn’t grab them and no dates but they look to be early in their marriage
I’m posting what I came up with the other day when you mentioned this, Wolf. This only pertains to ages.
Joe Biden was born November 20, 1942.
Jill Biden was born June 3, 1951. She is about 9 years younger than Joe.
Beau Biden was born February 3, 1969. He was 18 years younger than Jill.
Hunter Biden was born February 4, 1970. He is 19 years younger than Jill.
Joe and Jill met in 1975, were married in 1977, and have one biological child, Ashley, born June 8, 1981. She is 11-12 years younger than the two boys.
Here is the photo that Wolf first presented.
https://www.theqtree.com/2021/07/03/2021·07·03-joe-biden-didnt-win-daily-thread/comment-page-1/#comments
And another:
Here is a photo with Jill in the same dress, with the same necklace and hair bow, with two boys.
I think those boys are Hunter and Beau. (Jill does not have any brothers and is the eldest of five sisters.)
The boys also appear in this photo (below). I don’t know if this is Jill bringing Ashley home from the hospital. If it is, then this pic was taken in 1981. The boys would have been about 11-12.
The boys are younger in the first photo.
The story is that Jill didn’t meet Joe until 1975, when the boys would have been 6-7 years old. If that photo was taken in 1975, then Jill, being 18 years older than the boys, would have been at least 24 years old.
Here is another photo with everyone wearing the same clothing that they had on in the other two.
Since Jill is at least 18 years older than the boys, she could not have been a teenager when these photos, and the one of her on Biden’s lap, were taken.
Incidentally, If Jill had been 24 here, Joe would have been nearly 33. So he was somewhere in his early 30s in the photo with her in his lap.
This is the link where I found the photos:
https://www.thelist.com/238230/the-stunning-transformation-of-jill-biden/
Good! I think we can do a calculation with this.
Here is a picture that they say is before they were married, but no date given:
VERY interesting. Note when it came out. August 19, 2020 – again – RIGHT AFTER the Stevenson allegations.
There’s an archive, too: https://archive.fo/exrhU
These pictures are interesting because there is no context or date given.
They are CLEARLY a response to the Stevenson drop, but don’t address it directly. They allow US to assume a context.
OK. Let’s calculate.
Beau Biden was born February 3, 1969.
Hunter Biden was born February 4, 1970.
This is them in Summer of 1972.
Beau Biden is 3.5 y.o.
Hunter Biden is 2.5 y.o.
This looks perfectly consistent with the picture.
In this picture, she almost looks the same as the lap picture, with the same dress:
Let’s give that equivalence the benefit of the doubt.
The boys look somewhere between 4 and 6 – I’m guessing 4.5 and 5.5 y.o. Beau doesn’t look 6.5 yet, and Hunter looks 4-ish to me. It looks like summer.
I believe that the SECOND picture in the lean-to (see your post above), is a year later – the boys look older.
The FIRST picture in the dress would be two years later, in summer of 1974. This would be around the time that Bill Stevenson alleges Jill was spending time with Joe Biden and the kids. The same time Jill was growing distant from him, and got in the car accident where Joe Biden was driving her car. She was choosing to babysit over going on trips with Stevenson.
THIS ALL ADDS UP to the Stevenson story, including spending all the time babysitting.
And THAT is why they deploy the pictures POST-DATED by a year.
They’re hiding the affair – the WIFE-STEAL.
That’s IT!!! You figured it out. It’s about trying to hide the Wife Steal using the Pedophile Angle which can be discounted because she wasn’t a teenager in those pictures. 👍👍👍
Yup. Interesting picture. And that picture may even be a legitimate 1975 picture, too. The putative start of the relationship – but not the real one, IMO.
And I still think she gave him a taste BEFORE Neilia died, but I have no proof. Just a strong suspicion.
Yes – I think she started spending summers with the kids in 74 and 75. The picture of her in Joe’s lap would be either summer of 73 or 74, but more likely 74.
ButI all three are wearing the same clothing as in the other pic.
True! The chances are very slim they would all be wearing the same thing a year later. It may be that Beau looks older because he’s smiling, and because of the lighting, which makes her look older, too.
Agree. My humble thoughts say these people are the same, same day, same year…whatever year that really was.
If it was a year later I think Beau would have lost a baby tooth and it would be visible in the smile…he’d be the blond one right ?
Yes. And she has the ribbons in her hair, too, in all three photos.
IMO it’s a question best answered by the age of the boys. Is it 2 or 3 years after the toddler photo in summer of 1972.
Whatever the case, she is 18 years older than the boys, so she could not be even as young as 18 years old in those photos. She was in her 20s.
Pedophilia is out unless it’s completely separate and at that point it’s just an allegation that they knew each other through some reason other than Bill Stevenson – which is beyond the DM stories. SO – forget that.
I think it comes down to adultery, and THAT is likely what is being hidden, if Stevenson is telling the truth. The question is whether these pictures are 1975 as the Bidens allege, supporting (but not proving) their story, or 1974 which would prove Stevenson’s story.
I tend to doubt that they would take pictures of 1974 and give them to the press. Why do it? The smart money would be to release pictures of 1975, and NOT release any pictures of summer 1974.
AND this explains where the Dursts might have still gotten into trouble, HEARING Bill’s side of things during late 1974.
If she and her husband were helping with Biden’s 1972 campaign I’m 100% sure he was interested in Jill at that time…I’d imagine very interested and what a coincidental tragedy about his wife and daughter.
Oh, yeah – he was interested in her for sure.
But at this point it wouldn’t concern anyone, would it?
Unless it’s connected to the Durst crimes.
😎
Presidential ambitions for both 1984 and 1988, then spent 20 years in rehab to get picked by Obama as a life insurance policy. But he was always very ambitious. Almost got into the runoff in 1988.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Joe_Biden
https://time.com/4080629/joe-biden-1988/
Plagiarism was enough to kill his 1988 run.
When we had a modicum of public morals left.
That or to cement the timeline regarding their public pre marriage relationship
Prepubertal for jill
Puberty isn’t a lightswitch. It takes years to settle in.
The top picture is Neilia though, isn’t it? I just saw the same photo in a Business Insider article, they say it’s Neilia.
Yes. THAT is Neilia – the point of the comment is the ages of the kids. At that point, summer of 1972, Jill is a campaign worker and wife of a donor, Bill Stevenson.
got it thanks. I’ve looked at too many pics today. 👍🏻
LOL! It’s a mess – but we’re making progress. We already have the Bidens and their campaign dating photographs differently!
Great compilation of pictures and information TheseTruths.
Thanks!
He looks older and she looks younger. One of those things.
This nails it.
the indoctrination cycle continuesBiden claims he met Jill in 1975 on a blind date. According to her ex-husband, William W. Stevenson, Jill met Joe when she was a campaign worker for him during the New Castle Councilman’s first Senatorial campaign in early 1972 and had an extra-marital affair with him starting at an indeterminate time.
In her book Where the Light Enters: Building a Family, Discovering Myself Jill recalls that she attended Joe’s 1972 victory party. Evidence suggests they immediately began having an affair. Dr. Jill Biden tweeted “during our first telephone conversation in 1975 Joe said: “Watch me speak at the Democratic Convention tonight!” The Democratic Convention was in 1976 and Jill and Joe were long into their courtship by 1975 and were married in June 1977.
According to Jill’s ex-husband she first met Joe in 1972. There was a Democratic Convention in Miami in July of 1972 where Biden, who would become the youngest Senator ever elected, spoke. Joe was married to Neilia Hunter Biden in 1972. Neilia died in December 1972.
Neilia realized Joe was cheating on her and started drinking. Jill Biden contributed to the death of Neilia and her one-year-old daughter in a fatal DWI auto accident. Joe broke up Bill and Jill’s marriage in 1974 after Bill became certain Jill was cheating on him, thanks to one of Jill’s close friends and a fender bender with Senator Biden driving Bill’s car. William W. Stevenson kicked Jill out of their home.
https://neiliahunterbiden.com/
You know, I think that tweet has been pulled. I can’t find it. That was an error on her part.
I did find it. Jill is speaking about herself speaking!
Ok, this is a lot of damning history that would need pictorial massaging
OK, wait a minute. I found that tweet, and it was misinterpreted.
She’s switching times and speakers.
This is an ERROR by the website.
Exculpatory! Remember – We’re better than DOJ and FBI!!! 😉
BUT – what Jill is doing is implying that their relationship was “newer” than it really was. Yeah, he got her number. But that does not mean there was no prior relationship.
According to her ex-husband they had known each other since 1972.
“I said, ‘Look, the Bidens made up this dramatic story that they met, he saw a picture of her,’ and I told him, I said, ‘That was so untrue,’”Stevenson said in the interview, according to the Times.
“There’s probably 500 people in Delaware that saw Joe Biden and Jill at three major fundraising events at the Stone Balloon [Ale House] in 1972, after the Stone Balloon opened in February.
https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/ex-husband-of-joe-bidens-wife-claim-two-had-affair-that-split-marriage-647632
Excellent! This is a hugely detailed “denial of their denial”!!!
ARCHIVED!!!
https://archive.fo/8Lz4T
It’s all so tangled. Check this out. Appears to conflate that tweet with another version.
Long before Dr. Jill Biden was in the running to become America’s next First Lady, she was picking up a cold call from a suitor named Joe Biden. “How did you get this number?” was the first thing she said when the then-senator rang her up in 1975.
Joe’s brother gave him the idea to reach out, but when he called Jill (née Jacobs), she was getting ready to go on another date. “You said, ‘Do you think you could break your date?'” Jill recalled in a video for the Democratic National Convention. And she did. “I called and told the guy I had a friend in from out of town, and went out with Joe.”
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a33655615/joe-biden-jill-biden-first-meeting-date/
Excellent – great stuff!
I’m reviewing mentally all of the my parents friends, etc. I can’t think of a single one that I would have sat on their lap like THAT at that age. Nope. That’s awfully chummy. And I’m just talking about how I would have felt. I can’t imagine any of THEM letting me sit on them like that, either. At that age you’re regarded as kryptonite not flirty/friendly.
Basically you regarded adults as decrepit loons with too much power. Tell them nothing, avoid them
LOL, lot of truth to that!
bwahahahah
Sneaky assholes
Ffs.
to be a successful liar you need to be smart.
niether Biden is qualified to lie to 4 year olds
https://amp.dailycaller.com/2021/07/11/mel-gibson-salute-donald-trump-ufc-264
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/katy/article/Sunday-Conversation-Texas-Army-National-Guard-16304245.php
“The Texas Army National Guard is a part time service. You train one weekend a month, two weeks in the summer, and it’s really utilized mostly for the college bound students, because you can do it all at the same time. And you’re gonna make between $700 and $1,500 a month while you’re in school, on top of getting school paid for.” But you probably should see how their Vax Policy works out.
“And you’re gonna make between $700 and $1,500 a month while you’re in school, on top of getting school paid for.”
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That is a pretty amazing deal… no other college campus student job is going to pay anywhere near $1,500/month for approximately 16 hours of work.
And to have school paid for, on top of that?
Why isn’t EVERYBODY in the National Guard?!?
Hell. I’d consider signing up
Exactly!
I might be going back to school… if the National Guard will take me… 😂🤣😂
IMO the army should only take old guys
https://www.ba-bamail.com/content.aspx?emailid=26338&source=mob
“IMO the army should only take old guys”
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Okay, I’ll have to wait a few more years then… 👍😁
I think pissed off middle aged guys would cut it too
Wonderful deal. And you get to shoot guns and maybe more exciting stuff. Maybe have excursions to go camping
https://www.activistpost.com/2021/07/electric-vehicle-lawsuit-prolonged-driving-while-sitting-on-giant-battery-caused-electromagnetic-radiation-injury.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ActivistPost+%28Activist+Post%29
. The legal aspect is unimportant, as I have no idea its relation to the reality. What I was thinking about was an article about how powerful these new electromagnetic motors are. They can actually propel cars at motorcycle speeds, a process which entails generating an alternating magnetic field to drive the magnets on the motors, which themselves are incredibly powerful magnets moving through space, creating their own flux in the electromagnetic fields around the car. I never thought about the powers of the moving magnetic fields required to propel a car-sized weight from 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds, or what 3 hours of commuting, encased within such an electromagnetic field in flux might do to one biologically. Electromagnetic fields have been associated with both activation of viruses such as Epstein Barr, possibly through effects on the immune system, and perhaps relatedly, with cancers such as lymphomas. Food for thought. You might want to let the electric car phenomenon take off for ten years or so, and see if anything interesting happens to the adopters, before jumping on the bandwagon yourself. Along those lines, I wonder what effect having graphene nano-particles congregating in certain organs might have on someone housed within an electromagnetic field in regular and very strong flux for a few hours per day.
what is your opinion of this wolf?
I though sitting on bomb/ extreme fire hazard was bad enough
“You might want to let the electric car phenomenon take off for ten years or so, and see if anything interesting happens to the adopters, before jumping on the bandwagon yourself.”
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No interest in electric cars for me.
I did see one up close recently, and it is surprising how quiet they are. I can only imagine how many more people (and deer, and other wildlife) will be killed by electric vehicles that are essentially silent.
I like dual exhaust V8s, preferably with off-road exhaust systems (1963 thru 1968 Corvette factory order option ‘N11’), which puts me about as far from electric vehicles as one can get.
Extra bonus points for never being mistaken as an enviro-whacko 👍😁
There have been calls for electric vehicles to make a car type noise as people don’t hear them
“There have been calls for electric vehicles to make a car type noise as people don’t hear them”
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Which would be the definition of phony.
As in “it’s not even a real car, and to prove it, we had to record a soundtrack of real car noises for it, and then program a computer to guess at the right time to play back certain noises…” 😂 🤣 😂
It’s like outlawing horses, and then making fake horses, and then recording real horse sounds to make the fake horses sound like real horses.
This is what always happens when people can’t stop fixing things that aren’t broke (there’s nothing wrong with internal combustion engine cars except for design by committee styling), or can’t leave well enough alone.
The insanity just grows and grows, and people just accept it.
All correct but sometimes someone looks at an age old problem and tries something new. So radical in fact it changes the whole field.
For example there were no stirrups till the mogul hordes invaded Europe.
So neither Rome nor Greece had stirrups. So they never developed their cavalry as the seat was too unstable. CAV with stirrups can stand and down slice and are devastating to infantry.
Otoh sometimes someone really thinks out of the box.
For example no farmer ever when looking for a new plough horse or breeding plough horses ever envisioned tractors. Till some dude did.
“For example no farmer ever when looking for a new plough horse or breeding plough horses ever envisioned tractors. Till some dude did.”
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And if they make electric tractors, hopefully they can record the sound of a real tractor and play it over a PA speaker system on the electric tractor.
Because that won’t be cheesy at all... 👍 😂
Nah, the electric tractors should play the sounds of draft horses over the PA.
And the cows and sheep won’t inadvertently walk into the tractor whilst checking their phones for social media posts
Like this ? 😆
Your point is certainly understood Ozzy 👍
I just have no patience for EG-whatever the term is (EGS maybe?) that has to do with ‘going green’ and the electrification of everything, because just like globull warming, I know it’s a big lie based on profit and ideology.
It’s insane by design, it’s not even possible that it’s going to happen — ever — and yet people act like it’s a done deal, and trillions of dollars around the world are being allocated to this fool’s errand and religions are being built around it.
Even silver analysts — who admit it’s not even possible based on the amount of silver that would be required to make the necessary number of batteries and solar panels and other stuff — love it, because even though it’s completely impossible, it’s going to drive the price of silver higher.
It’s the rank hypocrisy that drives me crazy.
The amount of fossil fuels required to build 2+ billion electric cars is insane. The amount of fossil fuels required to build 500,000+ charging stations is insane.
The amount of money needed for both is insane.
And there is NO MARKET for it.
There are not billions of people around the world clamoring for electric cars that cost at least 1.5 times as much as a regular car. There are not even thousands of people clamoring for it.
Only Ed Begley Jr. and the other Prius drivers.
The amount of waste from electric car batteries going into landfills is apparently already insane.
It would take DECADES before any net savings (in money, in fossil fuels, etc.) was realized once all the upfront expenditures are made, and before we ever get close to break-even, all those cars are old junk and need to be replaced.
It will DESTROY the environment twice over for the amount of benefit we ever gain.
And nobody cares.
Because we live on an insane planet run by insane people, and even the people who know better (e.g., silver analysts) don’t care, because it helps their stock and precious metals investments.
I hate insanity!
And the solar panels… I don’t remember if they have a 10-year or 25-year life expectancy, but whichever it is, due to the amount of energy (fossil fuels) needed to mine and process the silver to get it into the solar panels, you (again) only about break-even by the time the solar panels are at end-of-life and need to be replaced.
But in the meantime, 10s of billions of ounces of silver will have been wasted, and all the fossil fuels needed to make the fools’ vision a reality will have been wasted, like using twice as much gas to go on vacation because you decided it would be fun to drive at highway speed in first gear.
You didn’t get there any faster, and you didn’t go any further, you just burned up twice as much gas to get there.
It’s insane.
And the whole world is gearing up for this stupidity, because the governments of all Western nations are run by insane people, or more likely, run by people who are compromised by China, since all the insanity we’re subjected to always somehow redounds to China’s benefit.
I hate living in a world were almost literally nothing makes sense.
It’s like living in a forced LSD-induced psychosis.
Whether it’s for profit (corporations getting zillions of $$$ in government subsidies), or ideology (Leftist religion) or strategic military conquest (China), nobody cares if anything we do makes sense anymore.
They just do it.
Because nobody stops them.
And so making electric vehicles and then retrofitting them with traditional ‘sounds’, while saving nothing and depleting twice as many natural resources and wasting twice as much money, makes perfect sense.
In the upside down bass-akwards world we live in 👍
You’re right. We used to have to get wasted for reality to be this insane
Over here they’re trying to “be sustainable” with an experimental Hydrogen-powered switcher Loko. You’d think they’d have heard of the Hindenburg, but NOOOOOO.
Just think of it switching some tank cars, maybe a few chemical cars, having an accident which involved sparks and a punctured Hydrogen tank, and BOOM (you can record that noise for your electric tractor 🙂 )…
But, it gets *cough* better.
Seems that we’re set up just fine for diesel Lok refueling, but Hydrogen taps are thin on the ground. As in nonexistent. Sooo, the Hydrogen for this test lok has to be trucked in on a, you guessed it, diesel-powered truck over a few hundred kilometers…
The stupid; it’s gonna burn….
And while all the greenie battery boyz and girlz are proclaiming how great and wonderful EVs are, children and prisoners are mining Lithium and rare earths in RED China are parts nearby to provide battery and magnet source material, under VERY UNSAFE conditions. Oh, but they’re not animals, so the greens don’t care.
And, IIRC, those batteries can’t be recycled (or at least economically) so it’s in the skip for them. More pollution. And even if rare earths are not as rare as they would have us think (keeps the price up), they ARE expensive, a lot of trouble to mine and separate, and not as common as coal or oil…
But logic and science are unplowed ground for the greens and snowflakes…
But just think of the fun you could have… sound like a Stanley Steamer, or a bucket of bolts, then, later, sound like a AA Dragster or Funny Car, then, speaking of steam, sound like BigBoy 4014 pulling up over the Wasatch Grade, and then, just for kicks, the sound of a Concorde taking off, and a fighter jet…
Oh, and then maybe an elephant trumpeting, or the sounds of the sea for all the snowflakes out there…
And, finally, the tune “Low Riders Ride A Little Lower” bap bap bap bap bap, bap bap bap bap bap, bap baaaaaaappppp….
I don’t EVER want to spend hours waiting for the car to charge. I get pissy if there’s a queue at the service station, ffs
mini flux capacitor rip off!
Is that like people are “recycling” catalytic converters off of functional vehicles?
well the “flux capacitor” was Doc Emmet Brown’s (Christopher Lloyd) time travel device built into a DeLorean to enable time adventures in the movie Back to the Future. It required 1.21 gigawatts of power to operate so Doc stole some Plutonium from Libyans to get enough juice for a joyride…
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.5b9391f9b1ea45f7a376afae65a390bc?rik=RTzEcVHCaB5Cfw&pid=ImgRaw
hope one of these will show 🙂
&ehk=9OsgQIJ89YhevBxhZVB%2fomm90BCHZUk2s41dXS0l0zg%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw
Yeah, I’m fully aware of the BTTF reference, I was just riffing…..until I hit your last GIF…..
They both look so young….
Where has the “time” gone??? On the catalytic converters I hear that some people just remove them to get better gas mileage around here. You can even occasionally get Freon to get actual AC/refrigeration capacity, if you have the right older items…
I used to recharge my own A/C (in the US) and the rest of my family’s cars. Then the Ozone hoax hit, and that disappeared. Now it’s around $100.00 to get an A/C service, and that’s only if no new parts (filters, driers, etc.) are needed…
The latest refrigerant the regime here wants to push on us is as dangerous as Lithium: if the engine compartment catches fire, fluorine gas (and derivatives like hydrofluoric acid) are released, deadly, especially if someone is trapped; also for the emergency personnel.
But hey, it’s “sustainable”…..
(Irony of ironies, Daimler is experimenting with CO² as a refrigerant. Watch the greens ties themselves up in knots on that one…..)….
Oh my goodness the insanity will likely Never End until Jesus returns (look busy–Johnny English inappropriate reference)!
Just over the border in TJ, AC is frequently recharged with propane. It actually works pretty well, except for the slight chance that the hot pressurized side might spring a leak near a flame…….
Our freezer uses R600a, IsoButant, and has a warning label that gives me the willies. Among other things, it requires that the freezer be situtated away from any ignition sources (e.g. the furnace in the next room over) and have so many cubic meters of air space for every gram of refrigerant. We just squeak by on that one, as the freezer is situated at the bottom of a three-story stairwell (pays to build one’s house on a hill).
I miss the days of freon, good old R12, Dichlorodifluoromethane….
Wow – isobutane! Nice natural refrigerant there. What’s the date on that freezer – is this new tech or ancient?
New… OK, relatively new, probably around ten years old now, but it seems newer… And the company that makes our freezer (and fridge) is the best one over here – Liebherr (also like the name – Love GOD)…
I’d already been grousing about the refrigerant in our refrigerator, but I didn’t look at the label on the freezer until I’d plugged it in downstairs…
Too late… (shades of Marty Feldman in “Young Frankenstein”)…..
It IS a nice chest freezer, and only uses about 100w according to its nameplate, where I also found the, erm, warning messages…
But, the greens don’t care. And the Ozone lie lives on… Funny thing with them, they think the sun and cosmic rays (mediated by the sun, depending on its variations) have no effect on the earth, the ozone layer, or weather and climate.
They were probably getting stoned or sleeping during science classes… or maybe being coached by the ChiComs… seems all this green goofiness started around the time Hanoi Jane started yapping, and Stalin had his 100th…. aka “Earth Day”….
Here’s me shit bombing the site randomly with tidbits from everywhere
still glad to see me?
I’m glad to see you Ozzy…you always bring a wild untamed attitude with ya ! Makes me laugh every time….
It’s that zero fucks given about rules thing
You’ve been missed.
Absolutely So excited to see you here!!!! 😉
Bwahahahah
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/man-media-praised-waiting-hours-vote-dem-primary-arrested-illegal-voting/
“”That October he got confirmation when a man informed him Biden was driving his wife’s car and the two of them got into a fender bender.”
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It was a Corvette, a 1973 or 1974 I think.
Daughn had an article on her blog that mentioned it some time ago. If I remember correctly, there was something about the repair shop calling the wrong person or maybe asking for the wrong person that tipped someone (probably Jill’s husband) off.
Wolf, I just noticed that when I ‘like’ an article, the button turns blue and says ‘liked’ as usual, but my avatar does not show up in the list next to the button.
And when I refreshed the screen, the ‘like’ button no longer shows that I clicked it previously.
(try logging out and logging back in ?)
Logging out is a good way to never get back in… 😂🤣😂
But I’m feeling lucky today, so here’s goes 👍😁
😉
It worked, thank you Nor’easter! 😁👍
YW !
(“just keep pushin’ buttons ’til you get the desired effect”… is my motto !)
😉
That works for a lot of things, but it doesn’t usually work (for me) with computers… 😁
You’ve got a point there… But I never give up !
😉
😍 😍 😍
😉
Percussive maintenance
(whack it)
“Percussive maintenance
(whack it)”
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Or, you know, whip it.
Whip it good… 👍 😁 😂
Whippet 😆
or
Whippets are like junior greyhounds that were repurposed in the 60’s as frisbee dogs.
“Now Stevenson is about to publish a book that he says will blow the lid off the sham story.”
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About to publish?
👍😂🤣😂
Prepare for news of Stevenson’s unexpected suicide in 3… 2… 1…
He’s fucked
Just a couple of thoughts on this…
-Long Island News 12 (mentioned in the Daily Mail article) is Long Islands local commie news outlet available through the dominant cable tv/ Internet/ phone carrier Optimum (now Altice) (which does not carry OANN). They have spun off into a cable provided regional news outlets covering the New York tri State Metro area (including parts of New Jersey and Connecticut). FAKE NEWS. Mouth piece for TPTB.
-swinging and wife swapping were a fad that gained much popularity in the era of bellbottoms and disco. The C_A was also improving their tradecraft. Joe Biden became the youngest Senator ever “elected” (?).
-the question has be asked: “Who took the pictures” ?
I didn’t have time to go through all the daily mail but I did notice that Annie Liebowitz name was attached to the 2019 photo.
Annie Liebowitz has brought us all the world as seen through her communist lens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Leibovitz
“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.”
Or is it Delaware ?
Great thoughts!
And you’re right about something rotten. When was the last time the first lady was somehow connected to THREE MURDERS?
(NOT COUNTING THE CLINTONS…….)
Back in the 80’s, Biden had the reputation of being a panty-chaser.
But it was swept under the rug and the leftist media covered for him.
Nevertheless…it was common knowledge.
That was before the term ‘sexual harassment’
When Clarence Thomas was nominated for the Supreme Court…Joe Biden and Ted Kennedy were on the senate committee for the confirmation hearings in 1991.
The irony of this was so hilarious…that Saturday Night Live did a skit about it, lampooning the ridiculousness.
IIRC, Al Franken was one of those on the committee and he played Ted Kennedy.
😆
The skit had Biden and Teddy pumping ‘Clarence Thomas’ with questions on what worked best, in sexually harassing women.
Biden went through such a rapid balding process, that it was no big surprise when he got the hair plugs.
Joe considered himself a babe-magnet…so he had to save his image.
😂
He was referred to as “Plugs Biden” for awhile.
OMG – that’s right! Plugs Biden! Yes! Do you remember when he got the hair plugs? I think some of the pictures now make sense!!!
I was wondering when the plugs were going to make their appearance
So was Bye, Done, back in the day 😀
I think it was mid-to-late 80s.