I was surprised and DELIGHTED to learn that Andrew Torba has decided to take a stand against German NAZI bullshit.
Torba Fights Back Against German Censorship, Refuses To Block Access To Gab Or Implement Speech Regulations
“Why should we block an entire country from accessing Gab because their government is sending us fines we won’t pay and veiled legal threats that mean nothing to Gab as a US corporation?”
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Andrew Torba, the CEO of Gab, has declared that he will neither restrict German IP addresses from his accessing his site, nor implement German censorship regulations, following a demand from the country’s government.
In a blog post, Torba, who has been running Gab since its inception in 2016, revealed that the free speech social network had received “a huge packet of documents with fines and legal threats” from German authorities, due to the fact that Gab has never enforced the country’s controversial Network Enforcement Act, known more commonly by the NetzDG acronym.
Andrew Torba had initially thought he would go along with the much more practical route of blocking German IP addresses. I was OK with that…. kind of….. but it BOTHERED ME.
Evidently, it bothered Torba, too. Enough that he changed his mind.
HALLELUJAH!!!
This is EXACTLY how to take a stand against GLOBONAZIS.
It is VERY instructive to read Andrew Torba’s open letter on his decision.
LINK: https://news.gab.com/2021/09/20/germany-wants-to-force-gab-to-censor-its-not-happening/
Please give that a click, although I am reproducing the letter here in its entirety for this site’s historical records.
This week we received a huge packet of documents with fines and legal threats from the nation state of Germany. Gab is refusing, and has refused for many years, to comply with the German Network Enforcement Act. Gab is a US company and as such we are under zero obligation to obey foreign laws from tyrannical governments.
For those unfamiliar, the Network Enforcement Act is a draconian German law aimed at combatting “fake news” on social networking websites. “Fake news” is of course, whatever the German Government says it is.
For example this week Facebook deleted 150 accounts belonging to an anti-lockdown movement in Germany, likely at the behest of the German government under the Network Enforcement Act.
Because of Gab’s unwillingness to participate in State-mandated censorship of free speech, the German government is now coming after our bootstrapped tech startup with heavy fines and other legal action.
Gab is not a lawless website. We work diligently to stop and prevent illegal activity from taking place on our platform. We have great relationships with many foreign countries who understand and respect our position on free speech and appreciate our zero tolerance for criminal activity. The German government isn’t concerned about any actual criminal activity, they are concerned with Thought Criminals who dare to dissent against their globalist regime.
According to our legal team, who has been working with us on this issue for several months, we have three choices.
- Obey German censorship laws and start censoring content that the German Government doesn’t like (this is not going to happen)
- Disobey German censorship laws and pick a fight with the nation state of Germany (I likely wouldn’t ever be able to leave the US again, they would come at us from every possible angle through state-sponsored deplatforming, heavy fines, they would possibly leverage contacts in the Biden Admin to come after Gab in other ways, and Lord knows what else.)
- Temporarily stop providing this service in Germany by blocking German IPs.
I hate everything about these choices, which is why we went public with this information to gather feedback and consensus from our community on the topic.
The overwhelming majority of people have been very supportive of the third option. Our lawyers are suggesting this option. Our community is suggesting this option. I’ve had many people email me and reach out privately to say that this is our best course of action. We seem to have a consensus.
Yet it doesn’t sit right with me.
Ultimately as the CEO of Gab I alone need to make this decision. These are the types of decisions that define a man and make history. If we block German IPs to appease the German government that sets a precedent that other countries will want to follow. We are not IP blocking ourselves into a corner here. If the German government wants to stop German IPs from accessing Gab they can block us themselves.
Why should we block an entire country from accessing Gab because their government is sending us fines we won’t pay and veiled legal threats that mean nothing to Gab as a US corporation? I won’t be able to travel to Europe anyway because I’m not getting injected with an experimental substance. On the bright side I now have a huge stack of kindling paper for my wood stove this winter.
The reality is the German government has zero authority or jurisdiction over how we operate Gab. We have no corporate entity in Germany, we have no employees in Germany, and we are not German citizens. We are Americans.
In America you play by our rules, we don’t play by yours. Germany is a guest in our community and they will respect our values and way of doing things, not the other way around. I have nothing but love for the German people and they too deserve the fundamental human right to speak freely on the internet.
Our mission is to defend free speech online for all people, everywhere. Including in Germany. We will continue to do that, regardless of any threats from foreign governments. If we bow to Germany today, what’s to stop us from bowing to literal tyrants, such as those in Russia (like Google and Apple did just last week) or China (as Apple has done for years)?
In matters pertaining to serious crime, German police forces already know how to reach us, as indeed they have done many times in the past. We will continue to respond to those requests and provide prompt assistance to those police forces on a voluntary basis. What we will not do is restrict access to, or remove, content which is legal in the United States on or from servers in the United States.
As I write this today is the day the American Constitution was signed over 234 years ago. We must stand up now to defend it and fight for the freedoms enshrined in it, which come from God, for all nations.
I’m not sure what will come of this decision, but I will not make an important choice like this from a position of fear. I leave the outcomes of this decision in the hands of God Almighty and I pray that the German people will take back their country and freedoms very soon.
Until then: wir werden nicht nachgeben, “Nuts!”. (we will not comply, Nuts!)
Andrew Torba
CEO, Gab.com
Only Jesus Saves
We expect some large legal expenses in dealing with this matter and would greatly appreciate any support. You can upgrade to GabPRO here or make a one time donation on the Gab Shop here.
I think this is AWESOME.
We are learning to STAND UP.
This is the nature of true Christianity – as this priest describes in a too-long and badly titled video (talk about Fatima is less than a minute at the end), which nonetheless makes a FANTASTIC point near the beginning.
Christ without the cross is NOT Christianity – it’s what SATAN offers as a cowardly substitute.
So we are going to have to stand up, and it will mean CONTACT WITH THE ENEMY.
So be it!
W
This man should be in the Patriots Hall of Fame.
OUTSTANDING!!!
Exactly! I wanted to make sure people saw this. HERE is somebody taking a stand.
And this isn’t the first time Andrew has made a stand…
He stood up for the Q peeps and proclaimed that they were Welcome at Gab.
Yup. He has an intuitive sense for where we need to go!!!
I believe people taking a stand is beginning.
I personally know of someone taking a stand and losing their job for not getting the “Stab”.
And the latest Project Veritas federal whistleblower that just came out.
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/
I also read an article this morning how health care officials in NY are worried about the number of employees who may leave because of the mandate to get the stab.
Neon Revolt helped Torba a lot during the early days of Gab’s development. I joined to lurk a few months after he started it when Neon recommended it. The goal was always free speech while remaining independent of all outside forces and influences.
Yes! Neon was there long before the great Untwittering!
“If the German government wants to stop German IPs from accessing Gab they can block us themselves.”
Forcing them to out themselves as being akin to china.
Gab plays a Trumpian move.
YES! That is absolutely brilliant reasoning. The German Nazis can block Gab. It’s THEIR responsibility. THEY can shit on their own citizens at THEIR risk.
And we don’t like being shat upon!!! (OK, I’m just a resident here, but my wife, son, and extended family are citizens, some of them dual citizens, which could be interesting).
Hmmm. As a US Citizen, wonder if I could force access to GAB? It seems the Turks and other Mozzies are afforded the RIGHT to receive Turkish TV, and satellite broadcasts IIRC FREE OF CHARGE…
We are having demonstrations every week, getting bigger and bigger. The politicians are in a frenzy because of the election this coming Sunday. I’m hoping and praying that GOD steps in and cleans this mess up.
What Merde-Kuh and all the other NAZI/Commies/Satanists (but I repeat myself) want is TOTAL CONTROL, from the CRADLE to the GRAVE. The same group of Malthusian misanthropic malcontents that Ronald Bernard said comprises the top 7000 or so in the world.
But GOD is infinitely BIGGER, MORE POWERFUL, and WILL NOT LET HIS WORD COME BACK VOID.
AMEN!!!
Tech and social media companies have become, or are expected to become, the brown shirt arm of governments. The more companies that comply, the more brazen governments become with their demands to control the people. Thank God for Gab, Project Veritas and the others that are working to stop this tyranny. People of the world have had enough. Let the sunlight shine upon their evil acts!
Yes! Good for Torba!
😁 ✊
Ya just gotta love the “up yours” quote by using “Nuts!”
Yeah, that is most awesome!!!
Something in German culture’s DNA causes totalitarian impulses to take over the country.
It happens over and over. It’s just how they roll.
Something in Jewish culture turns them into victims, like right now in Israel with the multi-death-shots.
American culture is the result of people fleeing oppression. We are independent in our very marrow.
I have never given much thought to ancestral memory, but it sure seems plausible to me lately.
I like to say when it comes to the US, Canada, and Australia (although, since it was a penal colony, it’s a little different), the people with get up and go got up and went. We’re very much doers which is what is making all of this waiting for things to happen an excruciating experience.
Ain’t that the truth.
Independent Curmudgeons…. THAT’s US!
For the most part, those who immigrated to North America were risk takers. The more complacent types stayed behind.
Also, we are a people of many mixed nationalities and races.
One other thing; If you make a comparison between pure breeds of dogs and mixed breeds (mongrels) you will find that the mixed breeds have better cognitive abilities. They think differently and have strengths that pure breeds don’t that have been bred for traits that have specialized purposes.
” Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.” Albert Einstein
You never met my Lab.
There are always exceptions. As with any human, environment does play a part (good or bad) in the behavior and abilities of animals.
You want a smart dog, ditch the crate. I’m telling you, there’s a difference. Yes, the training is more work, but the end results are beneficial.
What’s the old line: “The cowards never started and the weak died on the way….”?
It’s not just Germans, it’s Europeans in general.
Folks here are used to being governed, not being the government. Hence the paeans to “Governance” at the twin EU Headquarters buildings in Brussels and Strasbourg (the latter of which is only used one week per year – go figure). This goes back to the times of multiple Kingdoms and city-states, and Feudal times before that (resistance is feudal).
The USA is unique in its culture and practice of self-determination, and self rule. And it’s amazing (and distressing) to see how little Europeans understand those concepts. (Big Europeans, too…).
There are many folks here who are fed up, but without Second Amendment rights and the spirit of independence, it’s a rough go… The AfD (Alternativ für Deutschland), politically conservative, Christian values, basically where the CDU/CSU were 30 years ago, are considered to be Hard Right Extremists! The Overton Window has moved so far left that it’s not on the main structure anymore, so to speak. Anyone to the right of Stalin is considered a right-wing radical… And Merde-Kuh controls the horizontal, and the vertical, and the volume (just like in the outer limits), and the lefties will take over from her when the election is done this weekend and she goes off into the sunset of eternal infamy.
Trouble is, her replacement (just like her) is NOT elected, but rather SELECTED, by backroom negotiations between the various parties of the coalition (it’s only once been a complete majority, and that was in Adenauer’s time). Then again, it’s a uniparty of five parties against the only good one, the AfD.
The alternative press is describing Merkel’s tenure as 16 years of failure… and hinting at 16 years of treason against Germany, German people, and German History (outside of the 20th Century).
I still think she’s Hitler’s daughter, if not in fact but in spirit. Then again, Eva Braun IIRC was much better looking…
She does look a lot like that girl who is supposed to be Hitler’s kid. I think you are right.
Scary that America is the one supposed to be leading the charge, but we have an illegitimate pResident right now.
Illegitimate daughter of Hitler and his horse.
Or his donkey, but then she’d look like AOC 😀
Nah, A syphilitic She Camel was the Mother.
Merkel is a communist grew up as communist and did not change. She is not playing with reality.
BASICS – our foundation of reasoning – FIGHT OR FLIGHT – how they are implemented – a lot of that is hereditary.
If you look at humanities spread out of Africa (The Garden of Eden) you see an increase in ‘spine’ and in intelligence. If you went north and did not plan for the future (WINTER!) you died and so did your kids.
THE 7 EUROPEAN DAUGHTERS OF EVE
The problem is we have become comfortable material rich to much to loose. Europe know what it is like to loose everything.
The totalitarian impulse has crept into the US political class, the Intel class the DOJ class and FBI.
The world has gotten smaller and I say totalitarian is a human impulse.
The victim is not alone Jewish thing look around how many people are paralyzed not show the individual spirit the spirit of freedom.
France, Australia and Germany and Italy have shown resolve to protest against totalitarianism and found a strength within themselves.
Europe knows what it is to loose freedom and therefore they protest . They know what totalitarianism looks like and they refuse to be victims.
Just my observation it is doing not talking take action where one can peacefully within the law..
A number of humans really will take any small amount of power given to them and completely corrupt it. We do have that in our nature.
I think some of us humans seem to control our impulse because we know what gives life other think life is in power.
There always is a price to pay some of us know it others learn the hard way later in God’s time.
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🙂 I like it.
Me too!!! 😀