Are we ready to overdose on links??????????????????
Cautiously Optimistic – The House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government
Tucker Carlson Outlines How the National Security State is Superseding Elections by Controlling Politicians
Badlands News Brief
Many Top-Level Elites Skip The Davos Summit This Year
Destroying American Democracy – An Inside Job
Maria Bartiromo puts Kevin McCarthy in the hotseat…
This a Republican Turning Point
Women Expect: To Have Gas Stoves
Well, I do anyway, unless there are no gas lines available. My hometown put them in in 1904. And, yes, we did it first. 😁
Joe Rogan Theorizes Joe Biden’s Own Team is Trying to Get Rid of Him Before 2024 By Uncovering Mishandled Classified Documents
Elon Musk Mocks WEF as Global Elite Gather in Davos
The worry in Davos: Globalization is under siege
MUST READ:
BlackRock, Inc. And the Vanguard Group
Chevy reveals first ever Hybrid E-Ray Corvette… Would you plunk down $104,000…
In a word…NO.
AstraZeneca boss at Davos… Street interview…
How the Deep State Launder Classified Docs
What, they don’t use Tide pods and Biz?
Ever wondered who was behind that greenie push to ban gas stoves?
Speaker McCarthy delivers…so far
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar land Oversight committee assignments after removal by Democrats
Tweets!
Yes, folks, it was a photo op.
MEMES!
Have a good day y’all.
(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)
And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:
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MARK 3:1-6
1Again he entered the synagogue, and a man was there who had a withered hand. 2And they watched him, to see whether he would heal him on the sabbath, so that they might accuse him. 3And he said to the man who had the withered hand, “Come here.” 4And he said to them, “Is it lawful on the sabbath to do good or to do harm, to save life or to kill?” But they were silent. 5And he looked around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, and said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was restored. 6The Pharisees went out, and immediately held counsel with the Hero’di-ans against him, how to destroy him.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.
And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another. More than one is going through a rough time right now.
It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.
In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.
Unix is dead. Long live Unix!
Don’t expect to see any more big AIX news. This means the last Unix left is… Linux
https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/17/unix_is_dead/
I was under the impression that BSD had an old AT&T v7 UNIX license at its inception.
Wow. I had to read it to believe it. Solaris turning into vaporware – WOW.
I remember seeing a ton of Sun hardware down at Weird Stuff and thinking…..”but, but, but….this was popular a year or two ago.”
Now there’s an option. Buy an old workstation for the memories. Wife ain’t gonna like it, but yeah. They can be pretty retro.
And then run Linux on it! 😂
QubesOS!!!!
95% of that impressive old hardware couldn’t run Qubes to save its life.
What does it run, in your experience?
Steve can tell you more about what Qubes actually runs on, but you need Intel/AMD 64-bit hardware, multiple cores, and 16G+ of RAM.
I’ve got some 8-core Xeon workstations with 12G RAM that I might eventually try.
Old Sun gear runs old Solaris — good luck finding an installation disk. I’ve seen SGI Indigo workstations….again, proprietary, good luck finding the software for scrapped hardware. I used to own an AT&T UNIX PC…..life is too short…..
They even had a VAX 11/780 at Weird Stuff for, IIRC, $250. I could have used the equipment cabinet as a base for a dining room table.
Yeah, I hear you. I do have some old Solaris laying around somewhere, but not so sure what it actually is. Might be open version, which was problematic even in its best days.
LOL! Might as well be PLAN9.
Holy smokes, I think I used to work on an 11/780…back when it was top of their line.
I’ve even worked on a Cray 2.
The 11/780 I am thinking of was huge, not just a vertical cabinet.
But the more I think back on it (35 years ago) I think most of the size was a physically gigantic array of 300 MB hard drives, each roughly 18x18x12 inches in size, and also a gigantic power supply (the size of three small (but full size) refrigerators).
You’re right, no doubt.
It’s fussy about hardware even today, not because of specs but apparently some things just don’t work with it.
Been there, done that. Got rid of most of ’em.
The stuff I’ve had in my garage….I actually had TWO wide-format dot matrix printers — one by Anadex, and the other by Printronix after they bought Anadex. If you set ’em up right, they could print an entire box of greenbar paper — or invoices, if you had sprocket-fed forms. Best of class, and built like brick telephone booths — must’ve weighed 75 pounds each. Beautiful machining, kevlar belts, heavy-duty linear bearings….
Finally got rid of them when ribbons became unavailable. Probably should have broken out the parts.
If I’d have kept them, I probably could have made them into 3D printers — the linear bearings were that solid and that smooth.
But, of course, I got rid of ’em 10 years before desktop 3D printing was “a thing”.
Remakers should be more of a thing. I loved that repurposed microwave oven!
So much is considered disposable.
At Maker Faire, people were doing things like using rejiggered toaster-ovens as tiny batch surface-mount IR solder machines. Having actually done prototype-to-manufacturing, having one of these on a bench would have saved SO MUCH time and money (part of the trick is that you do a five minute preheat at about 275, then do the solder reflux at 425 for about 75 seconds, then drop to 300 and taper to 150).
Between Maker Faire and the engine builders, you start seeing opportunities in everything. (You might look into the Cabin Fever show next year — https://www.cabinfeverexpo.com/ )
Or there’s this —
https://www.gaudi.ch/GaudiLabs/?page_id=652
How about repurposing a broken CD player as a scanning microscope?
https://hackaday.io/project/28101-scanning-laser-microscopy-made-by-cd-rom-opu
(Hint: same principle can work for DVD or Blu-Ray)
Wild!!!
And probably with greater resolution.
I own a TRS-80 Model III, an IBMPC/XT, and an Apple IIe.
COOL!!!
No electricity, so candles are necessary.
LOL @ no e- !!!
In Clif High’s latest podcast, he reports that about 50 per cent of invited attendees did not show up to their current Davos.
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Clif is a bit far out but he does have a linguistic program that shows shifts in the collective thinking.
From his nephew:
https://clifhighvideos.com/20230117a/
Great news on a variety of fronts: Half of WEF didn’t show; Deep State has abandoned Biden; And more.
A good listen. Audio only, so easy to scroll about.
Above timeline helpful, as Clif talks.
Hospitals collapsing??? In Colorado I have new hospitals that I inspect in. Several just built in the past few years that are already full and they are adding additional buildings too.
As sick as the population is, excluding covid and jabs, this is a growing business. Very few are doing anything to improve their own health. Even after going through covid that clear as day targeted the fat and sick.
WEF has brought attention to the financial gangster cabal over them. People are figuring out things they were never supposed to know.
The whole scam is falling apart.
Do these sites really need to be protected from bots etc., or is clouflare some leftist thing throttling viewership?
Yes.
Which half of the Q are you anwering.
Both.
AND logic.
The deeper truth is that the BOTS are the left hand feeding the right hand.
Once I realized that SPAM can be used to get people to install software on their machines…….
Hence Akismet, which then performs censorship……
BOTS can be used similarly……
It’s a mess.
Good question that’s above my pay grade.
I don’t see the fly. This could be a counterfeit.
Yup! Something was off! I could feel it! 😉
The fly in the ointment was found in his garage.
I had a feeling you would notice that! I decided that the fly is in the back as usual, and therefore just not in our line of sight. 😅
Conspiracy theorist!!!
The problem with this often-true scenario is that purebloods are still being blamed for things.
^^^ Precisely. ^^^
Personally, I am DONE taking shit from Covidiots, AND WOKE ASSHOLES.
Nor do I give a damn about being PC, potentially butt hurt feelings.
Hard truths need to be known.
Ha ha ha! These people are so pathetically clueless.
Following in lockstep and seemingly proud of it. 🙄
It’s a parody account I believe, saw this yesterday on patriots.win.
Oh I see Wolfie already posted it below.
Thanks.
STUNNINGLY STUPID!
She’s one of the best parodies out there.
Good to know, thanks.
I raged on her on Twitter for quite some time, until I caught on to some curious reactions. And wondered why the heck people kept retweeting the crazy leftist! 😀
Stunted and Boor
LOL!!!
Ok, that’s a good one.
Greg Price:
It stands for ArmaLite (not assault rifle, not automatic rifle). It is named for the company that developed it in the 1950s.
Well, it’s not like people shouldn’t already know that Jerry Rivers is an idiot.
Joan Rivers at least was intentionally silly.
….but it’s a dry cold!!!
LMAO! 😂
Here’s the latest ground report.
https://mars.nasa.gov/news/9281/curiosity-mars-rover-reaches-long-awaited-salty-region/?site=msl
Salty!
More along that line…..
Sciency is as close as it’ll get.
Is the mobile presentation of the site working any better today?
Yes so far. Will see if more posts during the day adds or detracts. Tyvm.
Kemp, at WEF, really is an idiot. Here’s witness testimony to that effect.
Well there was a reason they had to keep him as governor. And I don’t believe it was his intelligence.
Swedish rappers having duels by bombing of apartment complexes!
I know it’s three hours late, because I’ve been talking and reading and reading and talking, but DePat put together a first class collection of links and memes tonight with some really cool stuff — and I, for one, really appreciate it.
THANK YOU, DePat!!!
Amen!!!
HOWOOOOOO!!!!!
My favorite is actually the header photo. I was dying laughing.
I have a pony who did that. He grabbed my water bottle and flipped it so he could drink it down!
We have others that will grab the hose and drink out of it.
That was a particularly good catch.
That it was Aquafina (produced by Pepsi) is also amusing. One imagines camels taste testing it against Dasani (produced by Coke).
The number of priests martyred or just outright killed during that time is stunning. Some have been canonized as being in Heaven. And the sad thing is that Catholics were allowed to practice in the concentration camps moreso than any other faith tradition.
Nazism is just insane – and the Ukrainian version is no exception!
An excellent pair of tweets.
Had me there for a moment. An excellent pair of tweets….. It’s early and the coffee hasn’t kicked in yet.
And yes excellent tweets BTW.
LOL!
Huxley: “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.”
In case you missed it last night, Scott was arguing that the only proper instrument for Christian services is the human voice. He brought many citations and thoughts, so this wasn’t just an idle whimsy for him. I don’t necessarily agree, but he brought a lot to think about…..then buried it in the after-midnight section of a prior day’s post.
Here’s a link to where he was really rolling, but I’d encourage someone to scan both higher and lower. https://www.theqtree.com/2023/01/17/dear-kag-20230117-open-thread/#comment-1033490
It’s an interesting question. I get both positions. Personally, I see both sides as trying to make a traditionalism appeal, which is interesting. One goes as old as Christianity – one goes older.
IMO the only way I think it would be definitively solved, would be if biblical scholarship could determine fairly convincingly to all Christians that Paul’s objection to “sensuality” in straying churches had anything to do with instrumental music, because that would then pit canon against it, but I personally suspect that this wasn’t even on his radar.
Here is a great reference I found!!!
https://www.bible.ca/H-music.htm
I think there is merit to various positions as well, but I find myself rooted in cynicism.
Without any musical instruments, I suspect that you are most likely to experience nonrhythmic discordant cacophony in spontaneous song. A good example would be a restaurant version of “Happy Birthday”. While we are given free will by our Creator, I find it difficult to imagine that such is His desire.
I could easily see a particular church limiting instrumental accompaniment to a soft tap of a tambourine and subtle chords in respect of the human voices singing Praise, but I find it difficult to imagine a random group of people producing other than noisy gibberish without.
On the other hand, I think that most of us could agree that accordions are abomination, drum solos are unholy, and auto-tune is grounds for excommunication.
I think a ban on K.I.S.S. and Black Sabbath might be in order, too!
In church, I should hope so.
OTOH, for fun…..
A song about a spectral hebephile….
More fun, of a botanical nature —
After I have my tea, I’ll come back to this.
Beautiful, in tune polyphony is possible without instruments, but it takes singers who know what they are doing.
Without ANY musical instruments, you need singers trained to be able to hold pitch. Even with such people, it tends to sink. Seriously, I was in a chorus that held pitch during the Rossini Stabat Mater a cappella movements, and we were complimented by anyone who heard that performance. It just doesn’t happen all that often.
As for the accordion, I disagree. In the right setting, like an Irish dance feis, they’re great. At Church…only if that’s the only thing available, and yes, I’ve been to Mass where that was the accompaniment.
Auto-tune is part of training for singers, actually.
Absolutely correct about discordant.
Next time you’re at a birthday party with everyone singing around the cake unaccompanied – take a listen. It’s an eye-opener. Unless you have ringers in the bunch keeping it straight (functioning as an accompaniment instrument) it will be all over the map.
I was annoyed at that whole thing last night. I just wanted a brief answer to a simple question. Where is it written that God considers music (singing, instruments, take your pick) an effrontery in worship?
No one wants bad music in church. No one wants the crassness of the modern world banging out from the chancel. No one wants a loud, poorly voiced electronic organ shrieking in a dry room. No one wants a sub-par vocalist bellowing out on a sub-par PA system. I could go on and on. Everyone’s heart is in the right place – but bad music, poorly executed, lacking aesthetic sensibility, does not belong in church. Not because it shouldn’t be part of worship, but because it’s a distraction from worship. An intrusion on worship.
One of the problems I have with the new mass is that the congregation is asked to sing way too much. (More than the denominations with the real singing traditions ask of their people.) We require that these poor folks sing the:
Entrance Hymn – Kyrie – Gloria – Responsorial Psalm – Gospel Acclamation – Offertory Hymn – Sanctus – Acclamation – Amen and Agnus Dei . . . and that’s all before the distribution of the sacrament. And then, just to make sure they’re completely engaged, let’s make them sing something while they’re on line for Communion. It’s like the value of silence, as punctuation, has been totally lost. It’s just ridiculous. Needless to say, my husband and I never punished our people with this monotony.
Technically, we’re supposed to sing the Creed, too. And the Eucharistic Prayer should be chanted. Actually, there’s music written for everything from “May the Lord accept the Sacrifice…” to the Angus Die (Lamb of God), but a lot of priests can’t sing well enough to do it.
As a cantor, I’ve argued for years not to expect too much in the way of singing from the congregation, but the pastors out there won’t hear of it. I also would prefer we do the Antiphons for processional, Offertory, and Communion, but we’re held hostage by two Missalette companies, and what they have to sell that the bishops won’t reject.
I was only talking about the standard weekly procedure, with the expectation of “participation” indicating “engagement” by the congregation. ( I’ve never done a sung creed except when accompanying the latin mass.) We often used a choir anthem at the offertory, almost always unaccompanied SATB during communion, bringing the organ back, barely audible, after communion. There is literally no concept of aesthetic ebb and flow in most churches.
Yes, it was always OCP materials with us. Although we’ve used Watershed psalms as well. That’s why I never understood the need for the ridiculous “cantor” arm-raising, which we never did. These folks have heard the same material for a quarter century. 🙄
I’m going to disagree with the invitation to sing.
Multiple places I sing, and have sung, have gone to “worship aids” so we can diversify from what’s in the hymnals.
Real quick example of voices making beautiful music without accompaniment. This is actually one of my favorites, and the choir I sang it with really doesn’t exist anymore.
When I’m more awake, I will answer this. “Sensuality” can be taken different ways. There’s the way most people think, i.e., what leads to continuation of the species, and then there is engaging the senses. Music, incense, art, and all of that engages the senses which is why it is used for the greater Glory of God.
Sensuality in music needs a backbeat.
There’s a lot that goes into it.
“Here is a great reference I found!!!
https://www.bible.ca/H-music.htm”
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That is the first website I found which I couldn’t trip up, after spending around 7 months going from Christian website to Christian website, making a game of “spot the error”.
I was skeptical, but I decided to look, to see what I could find.
After reading the Bible straight through, one time, and then checking various Christian websites, most of the time I could find something in the “About Us” or “Statement of Faith” page that was not according to God’s Word, in under a minute.
As soon as I did, I moved on to the next one.
If I hadn’t made a sort of game out of it, I would never have kept at it long enough to find one that taught just what the Bible says, not more and not less. I would have abandoned the search, convinced that nobody taught or practiced Christianity as it is in Scripture.
Error is not hard to spot, if you have read the Bible once. More is better, but once is enough to spot plenty of error.
It’s like watching a movie. Then watching the movie a second time, after somebody has added a bunch of scenes, and removed others. It’s not hard to notice, if you’ve seen the original first. You don’t have to be an expert to notice things that weren’t in the original, or remember things that were in the original, but are now missing.
It looks like multiple quotes that I used are also on the page you linked, which is probably where I found them years ago, when I presented this argument the first time. I had them saved on my hard drive, but couldn’t find them earlier in the day, because my free Copernic Desktop Search program didn’t transfer from my old PC to my new one last year.
Copernic switched to a “pay every year for service in perpetuity” business model, and I won’t do it, so I had to find a new free desktop search engine (‘Agent Ransack’) today (yesterday, as of now) to help me find my research for the musical instruments in worship argument.
The website you referenced is maintained by a member of another non-denominational, autonomous / independent church of Christ, whose sole authority in matters of God is God’s Word, the same as the congregation I am a member of.
A few weeks after I found the website above, I found another website that I also couldn’t find any obvious error in. It was completely different than the one above, in format, style, etc., but held the same positions on the subjects that were addressed on both websites, and both presented Scripture (book, chapter and verse references for everything) to support every position.
When it occurred to me that I had found what I had been searching for — it was kind of a shock, like finding a needle in a haystack after figuring there was no needle to be found — I spent 3 days thinking about it, deciding what I should do.
I knew the answer, there was only one thing to do, it just took some time to come around to it. It was going to mean making some changes in my life, and I wasn’t sure how I was going to do it.
But it didn’t matter, because how could I look for something for so long, and having found it, walk away from it, knowing that I had found it?
I couldn’t, and I knew I couldn’t, it just took a few days to get comfortable with it.
It was the second website (U.S. based) that I contacted and who in turn put me in contact with a congregation in my area. It was some time later that I found out the website in Canada (www.bible.ca) was a congregation (independent and autonomous) with which we were in fellowship.
Seven months of searching, with no luck, and then two websites discovered within a few weeks of each other, both teaching the same things from Scripture, both of which turned out to be in fellowship with each other (and with the congregation I was added to), though all three are wholly independent and autonomous from each other, just as the churches in the first century (and in Scripture) were.
I have seen you reference that website in Canada several times over the past few years, and I think I commented about it every time.
“IMO the only way I think it would be definitively solved, would be if biblical scholarship could determine fairly convincingly to all Christians that Paul’s objection to “sensuality” in straying churches had anything to do with instrumental music, because that would then pit canon against it, but I personally suspect that this wasn’t even on his radar.”
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If you do some research on Scriptural Authority (general authority, specific authority, approved example, Apostolic command / commandment of the Lord, etc.), and how the silence of the Scriptures is in no way implicit permission or approval to do some thing in matters of God, it will be definitively resolved, and quickly.
And every other controversy can be resolved the same way.
It won’t have anything to do with ‘sensuality’.
Either we have Authority for a thing, or we don’t. It’s very simple. It’s not ‘mystical’ or woo-woo. It doesn’t require a divinity degree. We have no Authority to make up our own religion or plan of salvation.
If God’s will was even 1/1000th as complicated as men would make it, no one would be saved.
Almost all solutions to controversy are very simple, because the cause of most controversy is not complicated, it is self-will vs. God’s will.
No matter what God decided for His plan of salvation, Man was going to find infinite ways to ignore God’s will and do his own thing.
Identify the source of controversy or objection.
Then try subordinating whatever it is that is causing our objection to the Authority of God — i.e., to His Word, what we can know about God’s will because it says so in His Word and we can put our finger on the verse or passage.
If God’s Word is silent on some thing, that is not tacit permission to do it, in the same way that if our boss doesn’t specifically say that we can’t borrow his car, that doesn’t mean we’re free to take his keys and go for a ride when we feel like it.
People make it so complicated, when it isn’t.
The solution to a controversy usually becomes evident very quickly, if we take the “less of me, and more of Thee” approach.
It’s the “me” that gets in the way of understanding.
“It’s the “me” that gets in the way of understanding.”
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“Almost all solutions to controversy are very simple, because the cause of most controversy is not complicated, it is self-will vs. God’s will.”
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So, can “WE” as “Christians” called by his name, Override God’s “Will”?
Change HIS Plans?
I think not.
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Those NOT “Called” may be able to do so, but Nobody can override God’s will or change HIS mind/plans. If “we” could, God would not be God.
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I have stated this concept before but many reject it.:
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Say I am traveling down a road, and come to a fork in the road.
It appears to me that I have a “Choice” to make.
Either go left or go right.
God KNOWS that I will go Right.
So it is impossible for me to go Left even if I think I have the ability.
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Research “Election and Predestination” in the Bible.
It will become clear that HIS “will” will be done.
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Romans 8:30
and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
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John 10
26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep. 27 My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
I have stated these things before and will leave it right here as I don’t have the time to argue the case further.
Just a point – John 10 does not say that the sheep cannot jump out of His hand. It just says that an outside force/entity cannot remove them.
Doesn’t say that they CAN either.
So they’re the equivalent of vegetables with souls?
Seriously, why would Christ voluntarily sacrifice Himself if following Him wasn’t also voluntary? As I recall, there was a rich young ruler who was chosen but declined.
Helpful hint: most who are saved were not predestined.
Believe what you want.
ALL who are “Saved”…. ARE
Predestined”… kind of the definition of Predestined.
I can NOT fathom God sitting in Heaven WAITING on “us” to be “saved” (By our works/words).
It suggests that he does not know who are his “Elect”
voluntarily sacrifice Himself…
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Matthew 26:39
And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.”
I believe that the “Plan of Salvation” (His death on the cross and resurrection) Was in fact PROPHESIED…
PROVING that it was PREDESTNED.
Well, you’re the only one here apparently who understands that having perfect knowledge of future events is incompatible with anyone having free will.
So the next question is: does God have free will if he knows what he himself will do down the road?
I suppose that he DOES have the “Free Will” to do whatever he so desires, but
God is PERFECT…
No need to change his PERFECT plan.
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I challenge you to find the words “Free Will” in the Bible.
I’m not claiming they’re there. That’s a claim other Christians make (or they’ll claim the concept is implicit, or called by some other set of words). Not me.
As I pointed out, you’re the only one here who seems to see the fundamental conflict between 1) God knowing how it’s going to turn out, down to the last detail and 2) us having free will. And you resolve that conflict the way you did. I’ll let others argue with you that your resolution is wrong, or that there’s no issue…I have no dog in that fight.
My question to you is whether God could possibly have free will if *he himself* knows what he’s going to be doing, or whether he has any ability to alter a perfect plan–which would itself involve a contradiction; if the plan needs changing, it’s not perfect, if it is now perfect, no change can or should be made; God therefore has no choice.
I may be the only one HERE that believes this way.
So be it. I would prefer others to search the scriptures to see if these things are TRUE. Not to just believe what some MAN/MEN has told them.
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8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not a result of works
(or words)
so that no one may boast.
(That “they” are smart or good enough to be saved by themselves – Free Will)
10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand…
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“Free Will” allows “us” to tell God what He will/must do (“Save” us).
Oh but you DO have a dog in the fight.
ETERNITY is a LOOOONG Time.
No dog in the fight over whose interpretation of the Bible is right.
And if as it turns out you are correctly interpreting the Bible and that the Bible is correct, there’s not a darned thing I can do about it, right? Since I have no actual free will, there is NOTHING I can do to change the outcome.
True enough.
If God doesn’t lead you to a saving faith….
Well, that says enough for me.
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Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the Lord with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding.
In fact there’s no guarantee that you are Elect either, and there’s nothing you can do about that.
Ah but:
Since I may be the Only on HERE that understands this Doctrine. There may some HERE that may want to look further into this Doctrine.
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I found this:
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https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/where-in-the-bible-does-the-teaching-on-free-will-originate
If PROPHESY comes true (and it has)…
It MUST have been PREDESTINED.
Well, the doctrine of ‘predestination’ is a little complicated.
One of the problems is that the passages referenced cannot be reconciled with all other Scripture on the same subject.
This violates the concept of non-contradiction, i.e., God, being perfect, and knowing the end from the beginning, does not contradict Himself. If we find an apparent contradiction, it requires further study in order to understand what is being said, because the correct understanding must necessarily reconcile with everything else God has said on the matter.
I can look up the passages that don’t reconcile with ‘predestination’, but is there any point to doing so, if one’s mind is already made up?
It takes a considerable amount of effort to hunt down verses and passages from the fragments I can remember. Often I have to do an Internet search for my best recollection of a phrase from a passage I’m looking for.
For example, I wanted to find the verse where Paul expresses concern that he himself might be lost, because if Paul can be lost, then who couldn’t be?
And if everyone could be lost, then how can that be reconciled with ‘predestination’?
So I searched “Paul says he must be careful that he himself not be lost”.
Didn’t really help much, the search results are all over the place. I remember bits and pieces of the the verse I’m looking for, because of the old English in the KJV, so that’s my best shot. I remember something about “Lest others be saved while I am lost”.
So I went to blueletterbible.org and searched the KJV online Bible for just the two words I’m pretty sure are in the verse I’m looking for, “lest” and “others”.
That worked. I found it:
“But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” (1 Corinthians 9:27, KJV)
To do that for maybe 10 or 15 verses or citations during the course of presenting one’s case takes a lot of time and effort (for someone like me!), it doesn’t come easily, to hunt these verses down, from fragments of memory. So hopefully they are not rejected out of hand.
It is easier to apply logic and reason, but it still requires tracking down verses because you can’t really reason from the Scriptures without citing the Scripture, sooner or later.
You can start, but pretty soon you need a verse to prove the point. Like this:
Why did any of the Apostles bother to preach to anyone, if those who were saved were chosen to be saved before the world was created? If those who were saved were saved anyway, and those who were lost were lost anyway, then why preach the gospel to anyone? What was the point?
If those who are ‘lost’ are predestined to be ‘lost’, i.e., if God chose their fate for them when He created them, then how can they be condemned at the Judgment, if God made them to be lost?
God is perfect and just in all His ways. Would it be just, to condemn someone for eternity who had no choice in the matter?
The Scripture does not agree with God wanting anyone to be lost, it says just the opposite (now I have to hunt down the verse I’m thinking of to make the point):
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“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; [4]
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2:4, KJV)
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If God would have all men to be saved, if that is His will, and we have no choice in the matter, then why aren’t all men saved?
why aren’t all men saved?
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Could it be possible… That All (True) Men ARE saved?
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Hebrews 13:2
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
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Remember, there are “Fallen Angels”. How many? I don’t know.
Just a thought.
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Now you’re starting to speak my language.
That I recall, St. Paul didn’t really talk about music. His emphasis was really more on modesty than anything else. There’s a lot of admonishment of presenting oneself immodestly. And there’s a lot of mystics and recipients of apparitions who talk about that.
Engaging the senses – sight, hearing, taste, touch, and smell – is something else. That’s why Churches should be beautiful and colorful, incense rises to Heaven (the good stuff, not the cheap crap), music is part of it as are bells, Communion, etc.
The distinction of “sensual” has been blurred in modern English.
I think I’m now understanding why one of my earlier churches had separate instrumental/vocal and vocal music services. They were both awesome.
The premise that everything for worship has to be just like the first century Anno Domini is, IMO, nuts. And if that was actually practiced, there would be no protesting because worship was the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass then.
The biblical premise for not using instrumentation during worship and praise does not exist, and, in fact, as demonstrated by other QT dwellers, is called for in much of Sacred Scripture, so why this would be an issue is really rather confusing.
As to the human voice…the talent for using it in praise varies in all of us. That is by God’s design. There are many of us created in God’s image who actually have great pitch and can carry a tune without help. For many tunes, and a lot of chant, yes, I am one of them. Every time I’m at Benediction and somebody starts either or both O Salutaris Hostia and Tantum Ergo using the Pange Lingua chant, I end up rescuing it. Even listening to the Brothers of Mary with the Salve Regina…yeah, they needed help.
But, that’s not the point. It’s all supposed to be a JOYFUL noise unto the Lord. Why this cannot include instruments is a strictly human argument.
Edward Dowd on J.D. Rucker CONFIRMS what we’re thinking about who is behind the scamdemic…..
https://thelibertydaily.com/edward-dowd-reveals-who-he-thinks-is-behind-vaccine-turmoil-hint-its-not-big-pharma/
https://rumble.com/v262gom-edward-dowd-reveals-who-he-thinks-is-behind-vaccine-turmoil-hint-its-not-bi.html
29 mins: FINANCIAL GURU, Edward Dowd explains his job is to, without all the information, ID early trends so he is ahead of the herd.
30 mins: CEO of insurance Healthy workers 40% excess mortality (25 to 64), life Insurance for future 500 and mid size corporation. MUST DROP DEAD WHILE WORKING. These should be the HEALTHIEST PEOPLE.
32% excess mortality in the general population
Disability data is even worse.
3.2 million more disabled. More than 1/2 were in the labor force. Disability rate of employed went up 31%. General population went up 8%
32mins: UNEMPLOYED- fired or quit because they did not want jab. Their disability rate is only up 4%!
The healthiest are those who left their jobs and refused the Jab.
I think twas in the last couple of weeks, can’t find it now, but some newly appointed government guy in Israel said something to the effect that they were going to be more careful about what was reported about Russia. This ammunition transfer and the sale of aircraft might explain that…
“The Pentagon will transfer to Ukraine 300 thousand 155-mm artillery shells that were stored in American warehouses in Israel.
Washington and Tel Aviv concluded a corresponding agreement last year, The New York Times reports, citing sources.
Approximately half of this ammunition is already in Europe and is expected to go to Ukraine via Poland.”
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This is notable for two reasons:
1. This probably explains the recent Russian sales of Su-35s to Iran, at least in part, given the agreement was apparently struck last year according to the part. In effect, Russia retaliated to Israeli aid to Ukraine and in a big way, given consistent reports of possible Israeli strikes on Iran by the new government in Tel Aviv.
2. With considerable mirth, it must be noted that 300,000 shells is the entire annual production of Europe. Because of gross deficiencies in production within the EU and United States, NATO has increasingly been forced to turn to buying from the stocks of other states to support Ukraine. Israel thus joins a list of nations extending from Pakistan to South Korea.”
Threadreaderapp
Curious what people think.
https://notthebee.com/article/today-in-la-music-teacher-punches-student-in-the-face-in-viral-vid
The delinquent definitely had SOMETHING coming. The question is WHAT.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charge-dropped-against-teacher-seen-video-punching-student-who-called-n1074036
GOOD!
When I was in school it would NEVER have gotten that far. I watched a Jr high student disrespect a teacher and end up getting wacked on the hands with a ruler before being assigned detention.
As I said a couple days ago. The USA education system is TRAINING MIKE BROWNS. If you do not learn to be civilized by the time you leave school, then you are GOING TO BE SHOT!
I couldn’t understand what the kid was saying, but the teacher hit him out of the blue. The kid didn’t make any physical threats toward the teacher. I don’t know if the teacher ordered the kid to sit down or anything of the sort, but maybe he could have called the principal or the kid’s parents or something. I would expect that any parent, even if the child was a juvenile delinquent, would be outraged that their kid was hit.
EDIT: I just read this in the article posted by cthulhu:
So the teacher was hit by a ball and had been attacked by students before. That puts things in a different light. I still have a problem with punching a student in the face before the student escalates to that level, but I understand where the teacher was coming from.
You do not assault a teacher, period. Self-defense in the rare event that the teacher abuses you, but never an offensive attack.
Also the teacher told the student to LEAVE THE CLASSROOM numerous times and the kid kept swearing at him calling him a c..nt and other nasty words.
There is no discipline in schools these days. That is why students do what they do. Zero consequences. What we grew up with compared to today are polar opposites.
Let’s see if this plays…..
https://banned.video/watch?id=63c5ff379c97e319257b9ef6
Go to around 12:25 on this video for a hilarious closing message!
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination-guidance-for-healthcare-professionals
An easy to understand explanation of how the WEF aims to accomplish the great reset by turning fascism upside down.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/01/17/prostitutes-attending-wef-summit-in-davos-create-business-opportunity-for-eu-sex-workers/
Wonder if the prostitutes are fully jabbed and boosted, gotta spread that spike around to all the WEF groupies.
A Turner’s Cube made on a mill….
Not as cool.
Verse of the Day for Wednesday, January 18, 2023
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“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,”
1 Peter 1:3 (KJV)
Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!!!
BE MY VOICE
BABY LIVES MATTER
JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN
PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD
Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.
I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.
Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.
May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.
With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.
Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me.
Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.
AMEN.
PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER
WM I’m sure he’s not going after you just because you got YT working again…
“In the near future, YouTube will be closed, and those who continue to use it will be punished – the founder of Wagner PMC Evgeny Prigozhin” 10:54
Intel Slava Z
There can be no talks about negotiations with Zelensky, Lavrov said.
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LOL!
Sounds like YouTube is assisting NATO by giving up data on users in Russia and Ukraine.
The Daily Chart: Get Real About Wages | Power Line (powerlineblog.com)
http://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/01/18/a-second-paper-confirms-the-mrna-shots-cause-recipients-to-make-less-effective-antibodies-to-the-coronavirus-over-time/
by Alex Berenson
Yours Truly: The journal Frontiers in Immunology has just published a peer-reviewed paper which shows that repeated injections of mRNA-based COVID-19 “vaccines” do indeed promote the creation of more IgG4 “tolerate but never clear” cells in the body of the recipients, to the detriment of the IgG3 “fight and clear” cells.
The effect was found in BOTH the Pfizer-BioNTech “vaccine” and the Moderna “vaccine.” However, the effect from the MODERNA “vaccine” was worse in terms of the production of the IgG4 cells.
The effect was also found to be more profound in people who were “COVID-19 naive” BEFORE they were “vaccinated.”
[This, regarding the Moderna “vaccine”, would stand to reason, as this product, mRNA-1273, contains 100 mcg of spike protein per injection in the adult dose, as compared to the Pfizer-BioNTech product, BNT162b2, which has 30 mcg of spike protein per adult dose.]
It was found that the “class switch” in IgG cell production was NOT found in the adenviral-based AstraZeneca COVID-19 “vaccine”, due to the mechanism of this product. [However, Yours Truly will also say that the AstraZeneca COVID-19 “vaccine” is capable, like the Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) COVID-19 “vaccine”, of producing thrombosis and thrombocytopenia syndrome.]
Berenson says: “Also: what did Pfizer know and when did the company know it?”
Yours Truly would add: “And what did Moderna know and when did the company know it?”
IMO, the paper also indirectly confirms the fact that growth of IgG4 cells in the body may well hamper / damage the immune system response to other viruses and/or other infections.
The paper cited in the Berenson article:
https://doi.org/10.3389/fimmu.2022.1020844
published January, 2023
Yours Truly: The article was edited by a senior Pfizer-BioNTech USA scientist Shikha Shrivastava, and peer-reviewed by Lela Kardava of the NIAID and by James D. Brien of St. Louis University.
IMO, it would appear to be a significant conflict of interest for a Pfizer-BioNTech scientist to edit any paper related to a “vaccine” produced by that company?
Yes. She’s not a co-author. What the heck is going on there?
This is big. I will explain soon.
Looking forward to it.
Working on it right now, but taking a break!!!
via Sergey Lavrov’s T’gram channel
US Special Envoy for Climate Change John Kerry – Called himself and those gathered in Davos “chosen ones”:
And when you think about it, it’s rather unusual that we, a select group of human beings, due to the fact that this has touched us at some point in our lives able to sit in a room, get together and talk about saving the planet. I mean, thinking about “saving the planet” is almost out of this world.
Just wondering what it is that has “touched” that select group of vermin sociopaths. I doubt if their savings are being eroded much by sky rocketing prices.
This is the mentality that was used to push what they’re doing.
Very similar to the Nazis, in many ways. “The Final Solution” – perfect example of how the solutions are what kills – road to hell paved with “intentions” – very often a mythical, not even good end that requires a bad means.
Kerryyyy’s actions for globalism are not much different from Zelenskyyyy’s – it’s just a different group of people who will pay the price of foolishness masking malevolence.
He’s always been this way. Complete dumb azz bullshzzer. Will be a featured character in the BIMD series down the road.
Loose cannon who liked to kill according to Vietnam vets.
Everyone of these assholes on the federal payroll needs to answer for their attendance.
Sttarting with, who or what funded their $25,000 deposit. Remaining expenses, how much and who / what paid. Aircraft they traveled on.
Then get into the why attend, what they got out of it, promised.
Start with Wray. Then roll onto Uniparty assholes.
Arrogance and megalomania. Such people should not be in positions of power.
& inevitably are drawn to same 😡
“I mean, thinking about “saving the planet” is almost out of this world.”
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He’s right, it takes a nearly inhuman amount of arrogance and ego for any man to believe he can save the world.
And it usually takes some kind of blunt force trauma to the head, to think the world needs saving in the first place.
And then you have to marry into the Heinz fortune, in Lurch’s case.
So it’s an unusual set of circumstances that leads to winding up at the Dickie’s confab of ‘chosen ones’.
edit: “Davey’s”, not Dickie’s. Sorry.
We will destroy the earth in the name of “Green Energy” – The Burning Platform
Ya know why she wouldnt do it right? Right? Lol.
LOL!!!
I think she handled it well.
Yeah, it’s baggage from her past, but she has to live with it, and this is the price.
And she is deeply aware of it. Lol.
That’s right.
And she’s a sick, sick woman.
Hoe smells her coronation,which we’ll dread.
What if right before that is scheduled, a flurry of ‘hot’ pics shows up on the internet of Little Miss Kneepads doing her Willie Brown exercises.
Can you say President McCarthy?
OR information that she is NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN! (She isn’t)
“they” sure didn’t give a crap about that for the Obamanation that causes desolation!
She is untouchable if she gets in that way. GOP will not do anything against her. Too much of a PR disaster. But she is not re-electable and her term would be short.
What an absolute nightmare!
I pay no mind to what Biden is doing. Would do the same with her.
Ditto 🙂
“What if right before that is scheduled, a flurry of ‘hot’ pics shows up on the internet of Little Miss Kneepads doing her Willie Brown exercises.”
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Why would that bother any Leftist devilrat?
They’ll use the photos in textbooks for grade school sex-ed. class.
“Ya know why she wouldnt do it right? Right?”
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Because she’s already done it before?
Boom. Lol.
Worth the read just to see to the lengths they go to foster guilty verdicts for J6 political defendants.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/proud-boy-trial-update-defendant-dominic-pezzola-still-not-seen-discovery-three-days-trial-lawlessness-shame-judge-kelly/
The so called Proud Boy is an ex marine and Golden Gloves winner sitting in jail for two years and still is essentially not allowed to understand the charges being brought against him by the prosecution (being denied discovery) and the trial is now on day three.
Fucking Soviet/Nazi Democrats.
It’s plain as day that they are fully Soviet when they don’t respect the rule of law and insist on show trials: Not to get justice, but theatrical psyops to bully the people into compliance.
From “The Conversation” – an online magazine monologuing about what you think, and that you should feel like you are intelligent and smugly superior for knowing what to think with a sugar high of fake intellectualism . . .
They’re a “gateway,” alright – the gateway to economic sustainability. If I didn’t have gas coming from the gas company, I’d have to install a propane tank in my backyard.
I swear it’s as if these people know nothing – literally nothing – about how literally anything in the real world works. They think transmission lines are magic and can take literally any load, no problem!
But Barry sure knows how it really is since he went phat yo and bought three of the largest propane gas tanks to run his mansion.
It’s not about the stoves. It was never about the stoves. It’s about controlling the energy you use.
At one point, the available use of energy to be put into constructive work was considered a measure of societal and civilizational progress. Human capacities have become more efficient and grown since then.
Let’s get down to brass tacks: I’m tired of these assholes lying through their teeth and to my face.
They don’t care about the climate. At all. At all!
They don’t care about safety at all – or they would be promoting next-gen gas ranges with heat transfer and exhaust capture. IOW – they would be progressive in the traditional sense!
All they care about is how much they hate other people and want them dead, eliminated, and enslaved.
That’s what it’s about. What they want for us is so sick, so despicable, and they know it is so wrong that they have to lie, lie, and constantly lie because their real goal is for them to be on top and the rest of us to be on the bottom or simply gone. Progress for all humanity? Hell no. Serfdom? Oh yeah, they’ll take that. They are vile, disgusting people.
Yup. Serfdom – or worse. Human evolutionary experimental livestock.
“Sold as the cook’s choice”
There’s no selling involved for people who cook on a range. I mean really cook. You can’t control heat on a cooktop like you can with gas, and certainly not with the old electric coils.
Heck, I preferred cooking on my WOOD STOVE to cooking on a blasted electric. I could kick myself that I didn’t insist on a gas stove, Hubby did not want one.
I do not like electric stoves. I have cooked on both but prefer top range gas and backing electric.
ditto
Think this is the Prime Minister…
“All missing material and technical means for the RF Armed Forces must be sent [to the front] no later than February”
— Mishustin
Okay … I now have my notification bar at Marica’s, but it’s totally gone here…
Perhaps there’s no longer room under the umbrella?
The bar or working bell comes and goes for me. Right now the bar is good the bell is there but does not work. Nothing to do with the umbrella 🙂 Love the cats they look very healthy 🙂
Hope the bar comes back for you I found many troubles are problems on my own computer.
Hi SingingSoul! agree about many of the ‘troubles’ are problems of my own …
Hope you and yours are well …
Just found your post.Yes I am well hope you are also 🙂
To get the bell here you need to log into the Q-Tree, preferably with Word Press. In my case I couldn’t Look at my notifications, clicking the bell would just get the spinning buffering icon. Wolf had me “drop shields” on Brave & now I can see those notifications while on the Q-Tree As Well As on Marica’s.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/poszar-was-right-saudis-admit-non-dollar-oil-trade-plans-davos
excerpt:
It doesn’t sound like the Biden administration is high up in The Kingdom’s strategic planning; and given the comments from The Kingdom’s FinMin, Zoltan’s ominous warning appears ever closer to reality: “dusk for the petrodollar… and dawn for the petroyuan.“
The future of America is tribes and co-ops. It’s the only way to somewhat ameliorate the effects of the inflation we’ve been off-shoring for decades.
Which will come roaring back like a tsunami when petroyuan takes over.
Change my mind.
agree …
I agree about the petrodollars coming home…and the effect that will have.
Perhaps the fact that I agree with you on something will cause you to question your own judgement?
We agree on a lot, including the meaning of words in Scripture. 😮
I need some elaboration on your proposition that I might question my own judgment.
A joke, from the reverse side: “Gee if HE thinks the same way I do…what’s wrong with ME?”
10 Reasons to Criminally Charge Pfizer NOW (substack.com)
CRAP!!!! The FAA is CHANGING THE STANDARDS FOR PILOTS!
https://rumble.com/v25rcc6-sauce-and-effect-ep-8-mon-600-pm-et-.html
go to 44:30 — 48:00 (3.5 minutes) they have a clip of Cardiologist Dr Thomas Levy on the Daily Clout (Naomi Wolf’s blog)where the good Dr discusses the ramifications of the standards change.
YOU DO NOT WANT TO FLY! Heck you do not want to live under an Aircraft flight pattern! They are now KNOWINGLY allowing pilots with possible heart problems to fly by NOT REQUIRING FURTHER TESTING!
I think this is not going to go over well, actually, and may end up being reversed. As it is, the pilots themselves wrangled no mandatory jabs from most of the big carriers.
In the meantime, this is why there are two pilots on every commercial flight.
It will make flying a lot more exciting.
Think of it.
Was that turbulence, or did the pilot just slump forward against the yoke?
Larry Johnson just posted new piece… take your BP med before reading
https://sonar21.com/firsthand-account-on-third-world-invasion-of-america/
from the comment section:
I’m convinced the US is giving people money to bid in the “auction”
I’m on the same page. The only buyer of our paper is ……us.
works for Japan, their people let the Jap Feb Bankers buy up more than 50% of all Japenese assets. Bankers own everything, people own nothing. They appear okay with it.
I’m convinced the US is giving people money to bid in the “auctions”.
Of course, it’s the only way they can “pay out” pension funds by liquifying markets.
And who runs the BoJ, but of course the FED.
So it’s rigged? But America is known for honesty, democracy, integrity and transparency. /s
It is an Cayman Island LLC, no information so I would guess the FED
Institutions still consider US gov debt as safe, pristine collateral.
Yes – they are buying the debt of an insolvent government run by satanic p*dos.
Unfortunately the boring normies in charge of these institutions do not care about that.
THE FED IS BUYING IT ALL UP WHICH IS HYPERINFLATIONARY. ZIMBABWE TYPE OF SHYT
Pension funds running for cover in a landmine field.
Mr softy laying off 10k employees is forecast of what’s coming
Avi Yemini
@OzraeliAvi
WE CAUGHT HIM! Watch what happened when
@ezralevant
and I spotted Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, on the street in Davos today.
We finally asked him all the questions the mainstream media refuses to ask.
Full story: http://rebelne.ws/3IZvjbo
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He goes there. Make it happen…
https://badlands.substack.com/p/the-chosen-one?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1135129&post_id=96353973&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
A hopiumistic™ article that makes some good points. 😄
Along with some, pure nonsense.
Well, that’s the best kind of bullshit…stuff that is partially true, or at least partially plausible. That invites you to assume the rest is too, even though you have no real information needed to judge it.
Trump building up Biden during the dem primaries? Absolutely. Convince the enemy that their best option is the mushbrain who is actually their worst option! Excellent strategy. I can’t say absolutely that that was what he was doing…but it certainly could be.
After that, I part company with this article.
God knows I love you. brother, but what the hell are you talkin about??
Askin’ for a friend … ;_)
…which I’m not doing. I agree. That’s why I called it hopium.
As I said a while back…
Hunter has flipped against his “dad” (Took half of his earnings)
and to save his own A$$
We’ll eventually find out.
Just as possible it happened this way:
As shown in the article, Trump pumped up Biden by making it look like he thought Biden was the biggest threat.
But instead of doing so because he wanted to lose to that mental midget, he did so because he wanted to maximize his chances of winning. That was Plan A.
Plan B came when Plan A failed because of massive cheating and it became apparent to Trump that he wouldn’t be allowed to challenge the cheating; no one with the power to rectify it would help. At that point, he decided to “let go” and work from the outside. And so here we are now.
I can’t believe he would actually have allowed the last two years to happen. Too many have died or had their lives ruined. Too many more will die down the road, because of what happened during the last two years.
Yes. To me, that’s a big hole in these theories.
To me, that’s a big hole in these theories.
^^^ Which is why it is, being polite, 100% click bait nonsense.
I have no difficulty thinking there’s a plan.
I have great difficulty imagining that it has never changed, and that this current shit situation–this exact situation and no other–was planned since well before 2016. That not only gives Trump, et. al., godlike ominiscience, it also means our enemies are absolutely powerless because they cannot–and couldn’t have– change[d] anything.
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Sometimes you can’t TELL the public the truth.
YOU MUST SHOW THEM.
It’s time to wake up.
Q
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Realization that people have to be shown…doesn’t mean that THIS method and exact sequence events was contemplated in March 2020.
Absolute non-sequitur.
Doesn’t mean that it WASN’T either.
So if there’s no meaningful way to use this to back your point, then why bring it up?
Just countering your argument.
Look, you can Mock the scriptures and blaspheme the Holy Spirit all you want.
That’s on YOU.
Where?
Pray…. then Read
I don’t pray. But I did read and did not see anything in Scott’s post.
PostS… If you don’t pray…. nevermind
Look for the discussion above
I did. Must have missed it.
He and I were having two different conversations, one about his notions of predestination and the other about the Q plan.
Why he chose to throw a fit here, rather then there–and for that matter, why he felt the need to throw any fit at all (I thought I was being respectful whilst pointing out the logical consequences of his view…which apparently he didn’t like), is beyond me.
What does THIS (whether or not the Q plan is unchanged) have to do with the Holy Scripture? Or the Holy Spirit?
Or have you confused this with the other discussion we were having? I tried to be respectful there with neutral phrasing, while making it clear I didn’t agree. If you thought this comment was directed at THAT topic, then I can understand your upset but it is mistaken.
It was about the other discussion. sorry
“….I can’t believe he would actually have allowed the last two years to happen….”
I certainly can.
If Trump had not walked away we WOULD HAVE HAD A CIVIL WAR! Remember ‘The Summer of Love?’
BLM, MS-13, CCP operatives and ANTIFA would have burned down American cities. THE CANADIAN MILITARY would have been called in to stop the RIOTS and I believe we would also have UN ‘Peace Keepers’
North American Military Agreement Signed by the U.S. and Canada
At that point you could kiss our 2nd Amendment and our country good by.
The whole damn mess would be held up to PROVE Americans could not govern themselves… WELCOME GREAT RESET.
You’re dropping context here.
I said he had planned to win the election; once it became clear he wouldn’t be allowed to win, he had to back off, and regroup. And that implicitly means allowing what happened to happen, because at that point he had no choice. That’s where we are today.
The article I am criticizing claims that he had always planned to lose the election, and always planned the shit show we are now watching. That’s where I call bullshit.
Sorry, Steve
I think you are correct. I do not think he expected this big a steal.
I for one DO think he expected the “Big Steal”.
Most intelligent people now see how bad things are and have been.
The entire “operation” was to EXPOSE, and then FIX the situation.
I agree with you here. The big steal was not only expected, but planned for. I still think it was some sort of trap.
“ I still think it was some sort of trap.”
—
I still think it IS some sort of trap.
I think he knew the steal was coming right after he was elected and could not get it stopped. So he regrouped and went about it a different way.
I just like to challenge the hopium sellers to make it happen.
They knew the steal was on from long before the polls opened.
“I think he knew the steal was coming right after he was elected and could not get it stopped.”
Point of clarification…do you mean 2016 or 2020 here? Your phrasing taken absolutely literally (he was elected in 2016) would indicate the former…yet some of the replies indicate they read it as 2020.
Pretty poor wording by me. He knew by early 2017 what was coming in 2020. By his quick response after the 2016 election he probably expected it to be a major issue with that election.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-pence-to-lead-voter-registration-fraud-probe-leaves-door-open-on-iran-deal-future
NBC: Donald Trump prepares for his return to Facebook and Twitter
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/donald-trump-prepares-return-facebook-twitter-rcna65809
Looks as if nothing is certain yet.
Trump needing advise from campaign advisers for his first tweet. That really sounds like bullshit.
“…workshopped ideas for his first tweet.”
^^^ N B C is the source. 
WOW Congressman Zinke (Montana) GOES THERE!! (2 minute speech — House Oversight of Government Investigations.)
There is a Deep State
Arabella – Dark money…..
Intro by Shady Groove: 12:00 start of the Honorable Mr Zinke @ 13:20
https://rumble.com/v25ui2m-live-1205-est-mg-show-season-five-ep.-10.html
Give him a listen!
Whoo-hoo! First Rosendale, now Zinke!
And I got to vote for BOTH!
Congrats – patriots.
About damned time we got some in office!
Lucky girl,
I got RINOS Richard Barr and Thom Tillis
Is there anywhere worse than CA tho? Ive got difi and alex Padilla (installed).
Worse than CA? No. But NV is mighty screwed up.
Exported!
Hawaii, IL, and NY are going to be horrible.
HI seems pretty bad but IL has things from their state gov that are just awful. Pritzkers…
That’s rough.
This is big IMO. He declared war openly in the halls of Congress.
You don’t do that unless you have your backside protected.
When I heard him I just about fell of my chair!
Yep, that guy knows many classified and other national defense things others don’t. At the Dept. of Interior he had command over tactical teams. Primer for those who don’t know what that means is below.
https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-20-710-highlights.pdf
This looks like a throw down to me, not just a probe or sniper type event.
Why should we send anything. That whole fiasco is just a money pit.
Meet the Green Energy Group Behind the Study That’s Driving Calls To Ban Gas Stoves
Rocky Mountain Institute partnered with China to implement ‘economy-wide transformation’ away from oil and gas
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/meet-the-green-energy-group-behind-the-study-thats-driving-calls-to-ban-gas-stoves/
OMG – China is pushing it in reverse to screw the West!
Good job, CCP. That is a SLICK TRICK!!!
An interesting interview (June 2013) that was memory holed. Chuck Todd talks of the State Department under Hitlary and PEDOPHILIA!!
@ 45:45 to 49:30 Nothing more happened. it was swept under the rug.
https://rumble.com/v25ui2m-live-1205-est-mg-show-season-five-ep.-10.html
@Breaking911
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BREAKING: New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern announces resignation
Wow!
Holy sugar honey iced tea.
@TheEpochTimes
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#SouthwestAirlines pilots set a “historic” strike-authorization vote, following a lack of progress in contract negotiations and a massive operational meltdown. https://www.theepochtimes.com/southwest-airlines-pilots-set-strike-authorization-vote-to-wake-up-company-officials_4994967.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=gab
Southwest Airlines Pilots Set Strike Authorization Vote to ‘Wake Up’ Company OfficialsSouthwest Airlines pilots have set a “historic” strike-authorization vote, following a lack of progress in contract negotiations and a …
@KanekoaTheGreat
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THREADhttps://gab.com/emoji/1f6a8.svg #OperationLockstep
Robert Kennedy Jr explains how the CIA used the Covid-19 response to vastly increase top-down government, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism.
“We’re in a huge Milgram experiment here, we got Anthony Fauci in his white lab coat.”
Bye you nasty b…h!
Timing.
Wonder if Jacinda is attending WEF.
Klause sent her a
Gold WatchGolden Parachute.She did a hell of a lot of damage. She needs to be at the bottom of the mariana trench.
Yea she did. Yea she does. Klause IS proud. New Zealand has been screwed.
Somewhere, some how, Jacinda got her Golden Parachute.
She’d poison the whole damned ocean.
Let’s send her somewhere in outer space, far, far away.
😸
If everyone who needs to be at the bottom of the Marianas Trench were at the bottom the Marianas Trench…it wouldn’t be a trench any more.
They’d call it Mount Marianas, and it would rival Mauna Loa as the largest mountain on earth.
Haha. No kidding. We would need a heck of a lot more bottom feeders!
I credit Garrison’s Hellraiser cartoon. She doesn’t want to be seen as fit company for Gates and Schwab.
Way too late.
So, she is not gay? Or is Clarke a woman who identifies as her husband?
I dont believe shes gay no. Unless hes her beard. Goes both ways after all.
Something is UP!!! WTH!!!
It’s all about banning fossil fuels. WHY???
It doesn’t make sense, if the good of humanity matters.
@RepMattGaetz
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House Republicans have the ATF in our crosshairs.
The continued existence of the ATF is increasingly unwarranted based on their repeated actions to convert law-abiding citizens into felons.
My bill today would abolish the ATF once and for all.
READ: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gaetz-introduces-abolish-atf-act-ruling-against-stabilizing-braces
What’s the point of abolishing the ATF if the crappy laws remain?
GOOD POINT !
Any record of any gubmint agency ever being abolished?
OSS (IIRC) !
😉
Renaming does not count.
(Trust me… they made it MUCH WORSE !)
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Ukraine says 16 killed in helicopter crash, including interior ministerReuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-16-killed-helicopter-crash-including-interior-minister-2023-01-18/
Intel Slava Z
https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1e6.svg Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine named equipment malfunction, violation of security rules and sabotage among the possible causes of the helicopter crash in Brovary
I would expect it easy to sabotage, Ukraine aircraft AND navy vessels.
Probably as easy as letting THEM do the maintenance !
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In over a decade of aggregating news on Ukraine, I’ve never heard of Brovary.
So I went to Wikileaks and I’m informed that the Battle of Brovary was a Ukraine victory during the initial “Kiev Offensive” by the Russians in March/April of 2022.
The funny thing is, the Russians were 26 miles to the west of Kiev in the suburb areas of Irpin and Bucha. Remember those? The media spent weeks telling us how the Russians were mad men murdering everyone in sight and the massacre of Bucha became the buzzword of the month. Kiev informed us that the Russians moved in and began slaughtering Ukrainians. Others informed us that Azov had been given free reign to kill with impunity….
Remember the guy with two press passes that was killed by what we were told were murdering Russians in the Irpin area? It was confirmed later that it was Ukrainian soldiers firing on civilians and killing the guy with two press passes.
(Wikipedia) The Ukrainian Armed Forces involved in the battle of Brovary included:
– 72nd Mechanized Brigade
– Azov Regiment [DING DING DING]
– Rapid Operational Response Unit
Cabinet Interior Minister Monasturksy who bit the dust in the helicopter crash had the vital task of maintaining security and running the police force during the war, as well as advising the president on certain security matters. It was Monasturksy who provided updated information on Ukraine casualties. (It is this Ukraine data that is being used by both NATO & the US State Department in their decision making)
The other two Ministers of the Interior were the second and third in command of the Department.
It has already been announced that Zelensky has chosen National Police Chief Ihor Klymenko as the new Acting Interior Minister.
January 11, 2023
The head of the National Police of Ukraine, Ihor Klymenko, has met with the commanders of special police units in Bakhmut to discuss the situation in the areas of active hostilities.
Why? Why would you put your Minister of the Interior and his top two ministers on the same helicopter? There are no reported “hotspots” anywhere near the path that the helicopter was headed in and I can’t help but think this was a Zelensky hit job via sabotage.
WOW !
GREAT INFO !
TY litenmause !
This made me LoL:
That’s hilarious. Thanks for sharing!
Mutiny erupts among WEF staff over role of ‘Mr Davos’Founder and chair Klaus Schwab has run forum for 52 years but is now seen by some past and present staff as ‘a law unto himself’Larry Elliott
(Posted, in its entirety):
“The future of Klaus Schwab – Mr Davos for more than half a century – has become a talking point at this year’s meeting after World Economic Forum employees voiced strong criticism of their chair and the lack of a succession strategy.
A group of current and former WEF staff members who contacted the Guardian said the 82-year-old Schwab was a law unto himself and had surrounded himself with “nobodies” who were incapable of running the organisation he founded in the early 1970s.
“Klaus has been at the helm of the WEF for 52 years. When he was born [in 1938] 122 of the 195 states in the world right now did not even exist. He is completely unaccountable to anyone inside and outside the organisation,” the group said.
“We are a group of current and former employees of the WEF. We want to play our role in fostering debate about the role this organisation plays in the world.”
The group said it wanted to remain anonymous. “We are hesitant to come forward as Klaus is very well connected and can make life very difficult for us even after we leave the WEF.”
Speculation about Schwab’s future has intensified this week after a piece on the online publication Politico said the WEF’s strategic partners – the firms that bankroll the $390m (£315m) a year business – were unhappy about the lack of a succession strategy.
The group of WEF staff members said they had posted their criticisms on the social media platform LinkedIn but they had been removed at the request of the WEF, something the organisation denies.
The posts, shared with the Guardian, said: “There isn’t much of a future for the WEF beyond Klaus not just because there isn’t a clear successor but also because his managing board is such a viper’s nest that senior leadership will be at each other’s throats the moment the old man pops off.”
A WEF spokesperson said: “The board of trustees decides any future institutional leadership appointments. The forum has a strong institutional governance structure in place to ensure its continued ability to fully support its mission.”
Former UK prime minister Tony Blair is one of the leading international figures who has been linked with the role.
The group of past and current WEF employees questioned the ability of the organisation to function without Schwab at the helm.
“In most organisations the next generation of top leadership is faintly visible at the higher levels of management but at the WEF Klaus has surrounded himself with such a group of nobodies at the top that it’s hard to see how any of them could be taken seriously by anyone of consequence inside or outside the organisation.
“Klaus picks his leaders using the same criteria Putin uses to pick deputies for the state duma: loyalty, guile, sex appeal. The quality of people at the top is reflective of the type of people who work for the rest of the organisation.”
The head of one UK company agreed that there appeared to be no successor to Schwab lined up. “My impression is that he will die with his boots on,” the executive said.
Another longstanding Davos attender expressed surprise that Schwab had allowed speculation about his future to surface. “If I am honest I find it a bit disrespectful [given everything he has done] but he should have known it would happen and taken steps to head it off.”
The World Economic Forum is a Swiss foundation and does not have shareholders.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/18/mutiny-erupts-among-wef-staff-over-role-of-mr-davos-klaus-schwab
“My impression is that he will die with his boots on”
— the sooner, the better.
AGREED !
😉
Very painfully. Jab-A-Day, would be just fine.
I’m sure there are lots of people of like mind to take his place, but infighting is good.
… lack of a succession strategy.
We’ll give ’em a helluva deal if they’ll take Kamel-hair off our hands.
Translate: Dr. Evil Schwab has garnered too much negative press and will be removed. We, the real power behind NWO, will appear weak and chaotic when in reality we are strong and focussed on re-establishing the feudal system.
Did you think KS was really the head of the snake? Foolish peasants, you probably think Potatus is in charge too!
So eat some more bugs, pay digitally and be surveilled constantly. Own nothing and be happy. Don’t like it? We’ll shut off your electricity, your access to your money, your job, your food and then we’ll send you to a re-education camp and use you for spare body parts.
Jonathan Turley on the DOJ allowing Biden lawyers to search for classified docs.
https://jonathanturley.org/2023/01/18/were-here-to-help-the-justice-department-makes-the-case-for-a-congressional-investigation/
replaced well-established national security protocols with an honor system to be followed by persons unknown…
AND…BiteMe lawyers…
It’s a cover-up. They’re doing a triage. The really damaging stuff is getting vetted out by I.C. as “too damaging to National Security to make public.” That’s how they protect him. It’s a very “Comey” plan.
@thebias_news
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JUST IN: Rep. Greg Steube (R-FL) taken to hospital after falling off roof, condition unclear.
Hmmm.
“The incident was first reported by Florida Politics journalist Peter Schorsch, who said Steube (R-Fla.) was found outside his Sarasota home by a part-time aide of his colleague, Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-Fla.).
The aide made the discovery while working his second job as an Amazon delivery driver.”
Thanks !
(Sounds a little “off” !)
Pro tip. If you are a Congressman, stay off the roof. No matter what needs to be done. Pay someone. You can afford it. For the rest of us, also, stay off the roof. Do a cost benefit analysis of paying Juan and Jose to do it, versus getting hurt and dealing with all that.
(Aah… THAT explains the second job with Amazon !)
Absolutely! I told mr gil dont you ever do it. Hes thinking he should clean the windows himself. Uh nope. Maybe he just needs a good pressure washer with a long extension.
My wife’s standing order to me is real simple.
Don’t do stupid shit.
Lol!!! Its universal.
25 foot fall. Too much.
We won’t get fooled again!
Popcorn get your popcorn!
That’s going to be fun! Good for him.
He seems serious about it.