DEAR MAGA: TGIF Open Thread 20230310

Blood and Sand

Ingredients

  • 1 ¼ ounces Scotch
  • 1 ounce Cherry Brandy
  • 1 ounce Blood Orange Juice (freshly squeezed)
  • 1 ounce Sweet Vermouth

Directions

  • Pour all ingredients into a shaker.
  • Fill with ice. Shake vigorously.
  • Strain into cocktail coupe.
  • Garnish with a brandied cherry or enjoy straight.
  • Cheers!

On Thursday, there were two stories really overshadowing everything else. One was the hearing featuring Matt Taibbi of Twitter Files fame of the Congressional Subcommittee on the Weaponization of [Government] Stuff. Talk about a dumpster fire. WOW where do the Democrats come up with these people?

Thankfully, Jim Jordan was presiding. Here’s the majority of it rather than putting in countless tweets, people can just fast forward. Sorry to just link it, but the darn thing won’t embed and as of this writing that is the longest video available. This is the FOX feed which will also not embed.

Lowlights here:

From Sundance:

A Familiar Brand of BS from Former DOJ Lawyer, Turned New York Rep, Dan Goldman

The second story is more on Tucker Carlson and the reaction to his release of J6 videos following three specific story lines.

HUGE! Tucker Carlson’s Team Reveals Video Footage Shown By Jan 6 Witch Hunt Committee Was DOCTORED…Inserted SCREAMS and Other Crowd Mayhem Sounds [VIDEO]

Beware the Nonresponsive Response to Tucker Carlson

Tucker Carlson is Arguing With Fog

Here are Tucker Carlson’s J6 show ratings compared to other cable nets guarding the narrative

Thanks to Gail for pointing out we should all watch this:

Tucker Carlson now is a target for challenging the Democrat groupthink

And now, for everything else:

Badlands News Brief – March 9, 2023

EXCLUSIVE: “If You Saw What I Saw, You Wouldn’t Release It Either” – Judge Napolitano on What President Trump Said to Him About Releasing JFK Files

Well, that definitely does nothing to alleviate curiosity.

From Reason?

There’s Something about MAGA

Lies, Damn Lies, and Democrats

The Secret History of the British and American Elite Who Worked for Hitler

A lot of major Democrat donors have a couple things in common

How ‘National Developmentalism’ Built America

Death of a Myth

You Can’t Eradicate “Transgender” People — Because They Don’t Exist

The 100+ Year Old History Of Death By Arrogance

The Width of a Thought

The Men Behind the Curtain – Part 4

Flynn v. United States

TERRIFIED OF DISCOVERY: MASSIVE IMPLICATIONS IN PFIZER WHISTLEBLOWER CASE

Did the “QAnon Shaman” Get Shafted on Sentencing? New Footage Raises Questions Over the Chansley Case

House Republicans call for a ‘briefing’ on the DoD’s latest failed audit

As grip slips on J6 narrative, Democrats reintroduce ‘COVID-19 Victims Memorial Day’

Congress presses Norfolk Southern CEO on Ohio recovery and a new train derailment hours before hearing

I’m sure there are incidents on CSX, Union Pacific, BNSF, etc., but we aren’t hearing about it.

When Your Getaway Car Is an EV, Charge It First

College Industrial Complex’s Left-Wing Lies

Matt Taibbi Releases Twitter File Review #18 – Whole of Government Censorship Approach, Including Senate Intel and Legislative Branch

Tweety Tweets:

It’s a start, and at least he’s calling out liars on national television.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1633861857969852419

I dare the guys in drag try to describe what it feels like.

https://twitter.com/DonBauman61/status/1633823217537236992

Sure, it’s the same guy.

https://twitter.com/jacelala/status/1633841356320960515

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1633625785553547265

MEME STASH:

As a former competitive swimmer…sort of…that’s hilarious.

https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1633925654675685379
https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1633908317666852881
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1633777716796309507
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1633808509035741185

And now for the business portion of the post borrowed from Tuesday:

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out. There is also a “rescue” thread there for members of the Tree to rendezvous if the main site goes kablooey. A third site has been added for site outages of longer duration.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion. In that spirit, though, threats of violence real or hypothetical are out of bounds.

Fellow tree dweller the late Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And Auntie DePat’s requests:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

_____________________________________________________

MATTHEW 21:33-43, 45-46

33“Hear another parable. There was a householder who planted a vineyard, and set a hedge around it, and dug a wine press in it, and built a tower, and let it out to tenants, and went into another country. 34When the season of fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants, to get his fruit; 35and the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. 36Again he sent other servants, more than the first; and they did the same to them. 37Afterward he sent his son to them, saying, `They will respect my son.’ 38But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, `This is the heir; come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ 39And they took him and cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. 40When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” 41They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death, and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.” 42Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the scriptures: `The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? 43Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it.” 45When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. 46But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because they held him to be a prophet.

SATIRE!

Top Questions from the Congressional Committee Hearing on the Protestant Reformation

No offense intended, but that was funny.

Have a good weekend!

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TradeBait2

That would be to the affirmative, ladies and gents.cGood post, DePat.

The Clowns’ money supply arrives via illicit drugging of the world, especially Americans. Cartels are employed by them, FIB, DODGE, corporate globalists and the Uniparty via the swamp critters.

Why do you think B2 and tranny general looked like they were sucking on lemons during PDT’s Caribbean military task force presser?

Good to see real journalists going there. Thank you, Elon.

cthulhu

Thank you, DePat, for the good things you bring us in each of your posts.

Seriously, I’ve still got some open tabs from yesterday….

Aaiiieeeee!!!

cthulhu

Awwwwwww…..shucks…..

 😊 

rayzorback

I’ve still got many tabs open from yesterday also.
I need more hours in the day!

Gail Combs

I SECOND THAT!!!!

And I read at over 1000 words a minute.

I certainly do not know how D-Pat does it!

cthulhu

Update — I have one left from yesterday and am otherwise current, but may be sleeping soon.

You always bring us such great content!

Brave and Free

In agreement, seems like there’s not enough time in the day to keep up.
Thanks DP.

scott467

“HUGE! Tucker Carlson’s Team Reveals Video Footage Shown By Jan 6 Witch Hunt Committee Was DOCTORED…Inserted SCREAMS and Other Crowd Mayhem Sounds [VIDEO]”

_______________

Yes, that’s right… they WITCH DOCTORED it!

scott467

The “like” button for DePat’s article isn’t working. I clicked it about 20 times.

TheseTruths

Yes, it’s the same guy.

The signature on the left is from 2010.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Joe_Biden_Signature.svg
My signature looks different than it did in 2010.

And
https://misbar.com/en/factcheck/2021/01/30/commotion-joe-biden%E2%80%99s-signature

cthulhu

In the 1990s, I signed a couple of hundred checks per week, multiple thousands in total.

My signature never recovered.

TradeBait2

Yep. Been there, done that, have the signature to prove it.

TradeBait2

Keyboard is beginning to go into decline.

TheseTruths

Naomi Wolf is being redpilled in a major way.

Dear Conservatives, I Apologize
My “Team” was Taken in By Full-Spectrum Propaganda
https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry

There is no way to avoid this moment. The formal letter of apology. From me. To Conservatives and to those who “put America first” everywhere.

It’s tempting to sweep this confrontation with my own gullibility under the rug — to “move on” without ever acknowledging that I was duped, and that as a result I made mistakes in judgement, and that these mistakes, multiplied by the tens of thousands and millions on the part of people just like me, hurt millions of other people like you all, in existential ways.

But that erasure of personal and public history would be wrong. 

I owe you a full-throated apology.

I believed a farrago of lies. And, as a result of these lies, and my credulity — and the credulity of people similarly situated to me – many conservatives’ reputations are being tarnished, on false bases.

She then talks about the J6 reporting.

I don’t agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos as depicting “mostly peaceful chaos.”[https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3887103-tucker-carlson-shows-the-first-of-his-jan-6-footage-calls-it-mostly-peaceful-chaos/] I do think it is a mistake to downplay how serious it is when a legislative institution suffers a security breach of any kind, however that came to be. 

But you don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to believe, as I do, that he engaged in valuable journalism simply by airing the footage that was leaked to him.

There is much more about that…Then:

So a half of the country has been tarred by association, and is now in many quarters presumed to be chaotic berserkers, anti-democratic rabble, and violent upstarts, whose sole goal is the murder of our democracy.

Republicans, conservatives, I am sorry.

I also believed wholesale so much else that has since turned out not to be as I was told it was by NPR, MSNBC and The New York Times

I believed that stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop were Russian propaganda. Dozens of former intel officials said so. Johns Hopkins said so. [https://sais.jhu.edu/news-press/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinformation-dozens-former-intel-officials-say%5D.

“Trump specifically cited a “laptop” that contained emails allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden”, said CNN Fact-Check, with plenty of double quote marks. [https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_036fb62c-377f-4c68-8fa5-b98418e4bb9c]

I believed this all — til it was debunked. 

I believed that President Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia — until that assertion was dropped. [https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/03/mueller-concludes-investigation/

I believed that Pres Trump was a Russian asset, because the legacy media I read, said so [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book]. 

I believed in the entire Steele dossier, until I didn’t, because it all fell apart. [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63305382]. 

Was there in fact an “infamous pee tape”? So many other bad things were being said about the man — why not? [https://www.businessinsider.com/christopher-steele-trump-pee-tape-probably-exists-2021-10]

I believed that Pres Trump instigated the riot at the Capitol — because I did not know that his admonition to his supporters to assemble “peacefully and patriotically” had been deleted from all of the news coverage that I read. [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-11/trump-team-hoping-peacefully-and-patriotically-will-be-shield]

Because of lies such as these in legacy media — lies which I and millions of others believed — half of our nation’s electorate was smeared and delegitimized, and I myself was misled. 

It damages our nation when legacy media put words in the mouths of Presidents and former Presidents, and call them traitors or criminals without evidence. 

It damages our country when we cannot tell truth from lies. This is exactly what tyrants seek — an electorate that cannot know what is truth and what is falsehood. 

Through lies, half of the electorate was denied a fair run for its preferred candidate. 

I don’t like violence. I do believe our nation’s capitol must be treated as a sacred space. 

I don’t like President Trump (Do I not? Who knows? I have been lied to about him so much for so long, I can‘t tell whether my instinctive aversion is simply the habituated residue of years of being on the receiving end of lies). 

But I like the liars who are our current gatekeepers even less.

She ends with:

I am sorry I believed so much nonsense. 

Though it is no doubt too little, too late — 

Conservatives, Republicans, MAGA: 

I am so sorry.

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cthulhu

Someone needs to take her aside and say, “y’know, Naomi, there are places where you can go inside and publicly say, ‘I have sinned; I have wronged,’ repent, make amends, and be accepted within…..”

Sadie Slays

SD warned us about these awful cowards switching sides over a year ago. His rant was about COVID, but could apply to any proven conspiracy right now.

Professional Leftists Begin Trying to Retreat from the Consequences of Their COVID Nonsense

The professional political leftists are starting to rebrand themselves as having fallen victim to the “bureaucracy of COVID”, and according to those high-minded people who think very highly of themselves, we are supposed to embrace this new enlightenment from the same people who were demanding our acquiescence to their dictates.

This example of “THE AWAKENING” from an uber-progressive, Ms. Bari Weiss, on a television show, is supposed to be something I am told to appreciate. WATCH:

I/We are expected to appreciate the same people who demanded our acquiescence to every policy that was created by their ridiculous fear, simply because they now admit ‘oops, my bad‘?  Sorry, not happening.

For two years they shoved their intolerant fingers in our faces, destroyed lives and livelihoods, made ridiculous demands in order to sustain their own fear, threatened our children, destroyed the economy, used COVID as an excuse to destroy families and steal an election, attempted to force us to kneel at the altar of their mask wearing and never-ending vaccine crap… and we’re just supposed to what, forgive them?

Fat chance. That sound you heard was millions of us locking the door, turning around to face them, and now the reckoning is about to begin.

I/We need to see these people destroyed with the heat of a thousand supernovas.

The vulgar lies and verbal filth have been extreme for two years as these ideological parasites utilized their microphones and typeset in a brutal attempt to tear down our nation.  We have all been witness.

Anyone trying to convince us this assembly of our union is not tenuous might want to revisit their proximity to reason, because they’re not just out of the city – they’re also out of the same state the ballpark is located in.

David Mamet had a famous saying, I repeat it often because it helps people break the cycle of abuse.  Essentially: …‘in order for democrats, liberals, progressives et al to continue their illogical belief systems they have to pretend not to know a lot of things’…

By pretending ‘not to know’, the professional left carries no guilt, no actual connection to conscience. Denial of truth allows easier trespass, and that is exactly what Ms. Bari Weiss is attempting in that soundbite.

This hate-filled Democrat ideology relies on our willingness to reconcile their presentations and grant benefit within their seeds of doubt.

It is time for ‘cold anger‘ to turn hot.

Sorry, forgiveness is for the next generation…. 

We need to destroy those who carried out this abuse.

Our parents were forced to die alone in isolation while we were forbidden from holding their hand or being with them. Thousands never had the opportunity to say goodbye.

We also know exactly what the covenant of marriage is all about; and it has nothing to do with being forced to stand outside hospitals, screaming in unbearable choking anguish, while our wives and husbands took their last breaths…. ALONE!

You want forgiveness for that?

F-YOU, I do not even remotely possess that capacity.

I refuse to give any “coming to the right side” credit to the vile, intolerant, hate-filled and insane leftists who demanded all the totalitarian bulls**t they now accept as futile nonsense. Weiss et al should be shunned, mocked and cast into the pit of irrelevance.

The high-minded, reach-across-the-aisle crew can continue bleating philosophically about how we must grow our ranks by accepting the newly found recalcitrance of those who have carried out this nonsense. However, the constant granting of benefit to those who abuse us is the epitome of battered conservative syndrome.

Professional apologists for the right wing of the UniParty can keep trying to make the vulture a better sandwich in the hopes that eventually it will stop abusing us. Meanwhile, prudent people, those slow to anger but resolute upon arrival, accept the leftists and Democrats for who they are, toxic abusers intent on destroying the liberty and freedom the aisle-reachers claim to cherish.

The professional political left would like nothing more than their victims to be comfortable forgiving them for their openly hostile attacks. Within that dynamic, the abuser is free to repeat the cycle, and make no mistake – they will repeat the cycle, eventually.

Actions have consequences. We are not fast to the sentiment of hate; we know the damage that sensibility can create within oneself. However, eventually, reluctantly, decisions are reached.

Those who perpetrated these two years of hell need to be held to account, and unfortunately, this type of accountability is so severe in consequence there can be no quarter provided or terms which might provide even the most remote possibility of a reoccurrence.

It is uncomfortable to accept that our response needs to be of such severity that our children will be witness to a visible anger they did not know their parents were capable of. But witness they must if we are to ensure these vile and intolerant leftist creatures are destroyed forever.

I would rather provide the opportunity for my children to forgive me, than to see them forever living in a hopeless land of totalitarianism where freedom and liberty have been dispatched from their lives. At least in the former their choice is possible.

The professional political left must be destroyed with extreme prejudice.

We’ve watched them ridiculing us, the riots, and the lack of support for laws, or their enforcement. We’ve been absorbing all that.

We’ve been exposed to violence upon us by both paid and volunteer operatives of a corrupt political system. We know these things; the media trying to hide it doesn’t change our level of information.

We are not necessarily hateful. This is a sentiment beyond hate, it is far more purposeful.

We literally watched in 2012 as the Democrat party thrice denied God during their convention. The doors to evil enterprise opened by official party proclamation and request. Now we are seeing the consequence.

We notice the liars, even from a great distance – seemingly invisible to the mob. We still held open the door for the riot goer. Mannerly.

We’ve watched our borders being intentionally unsecured. We’ve watched Islamic Terrorists slaughter Americans as our politicians proclaim their uncertainty of motive.

We know exactly who they are, and why they are doing it. We do not need to stand around discussing it.

We’re clear eyed.

You see, this sensibility does not want to exist, it is forced to exist in otherwise unwilling hosts – we also refuse to be destabilized by it. Transgender bathrooms are more important than border security.

Illicit trade schemes, employment and the standard of living in Vietnam and Southeast Asia are more important to Wall Street and DC lobbyists, than the financial security of Youngstown Ohio. We get it. We understand. We didn’t create that reality; we are simply responding to it.

Deliberate intent and prudence ensure we avoid failure. The course is thoughtful vigilance; it is a strategy devoid of emotion. The professional political media can call us anything they want; it really doesn’t matter…. we’re far beyond the place where labels matter.

Foolishness and betrayal of our nation have served to reveal dangers within our present condition. Misplaced corrective action, regardless of intent, is neither safe nor wise. Trust me, the middle of America, and we are not describing a region here, is both SAFE and WISE.

When the well attired lady leaves the checkout line carrying steaks and shrimp using an EBT card, dinner options we cannot ourselves entertain, the door is still held open; yet, notations necessarily embed. These acceptances are never erased. We understand.

When the U.S. flag lies gleefully undefended, it is not laying unnoticed. When the stars and stripes are controversial, yet a foreign flag is honored or celebrated – they may not realize it, but we are paying attention.

When millionaire football players kneel down rather than honor our fallen soldiers and stand proud of our country, we see that. When the FBI sends more agents to investigate a NASCAR garage door than to defend teenage girls in the act of being raped by an Olympic doctor, we are noticing.

When a school community cannot openly pray, it does not mean the prayerful were absent. When a school board tries to silence the voice of the parents, the kitchen table conversation modifies accordingly.

When a liar and manipulator seem to win an election, the underlying irreconcilable outcomes do not pass without observation. Many Americans, far more than the minority would like to admit, know the difference between truth, lies and political agendas.

Perhaps the political left will discover that we perceive their deception the way a long-term battered spouse absorbs the blow in the hours prior to the pre-planned exit; with purpose.

A shield, or cry of micro-aggression will provide no benefit, nor quarter. Delicate sensibilities are dispatched like a feather in a hurricane.

Americans are still tolerant and patient people, the most compassionate and generous people in the history of all mankind, but we are also very purposeful. They could have stopped with us, but they did not. Instead, they came for our children.

You see Ms. Weiss, when pushed far enough, hard decisions are reached…

And you have pushed us much further than simply ‘far enough‘.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/01/22/professional-leftists-begin-trying-to-retreat-from-the-consequences-of-their-covid-nonsense/

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cthulhu

Yup, there are rules about such things, and “so sorry” is only the start of the path — not the end.

scott467

The end is a rope.

The only thing they’re sorry about is being caught.

cthulhu

Naomi Wolf was a “useful idiot”. I can hope that she can be brought back into the fold.

By contrast, actors like Fauci belong with #ToxicHornetsOnPatios, so their last stop isn’t gravity, either.

kalbokalbs

One of the benefits of being Slow AND Not watching Pravda anything, I had never heard of Naomi, until she was on Bannon.

On Bannon trashing Covidiocy and Covidiot Injections…

Gail Combs

Naomi Wolf and Matt Taibbi I certainly do not bundle in with the rest of the vicious venomous snakes.

They have a code of ethics and it shows.

pgroup2

A-fucking-men, brother.

gil00

I say that all the time!

TheseTruths

Naomi Wolf is already on our side regarding COVID and vaccines. She is doing great work to expose Pfizer and vaccine companies.

Unlike those who want us to “forgive and forget” regarding COVID policies, she is not asking for anything from us. She does not mention “forgiveness.” She merely admits that she was wrong.

I’m glad to see someone with her clout coming around to the truth and being willing to admit her error. That is so rare that it is almost unheard of.

Tonawanda

Agree on your assessment of Wolf.

Weiss was different. When she made her bogus mea culpa, she equivocated, and did not detail the basis for her statement. I forget the specifics, but she threw in baloney which was a sure indication that she did not really mean it.

When a person admits wrong and apologizes, IMO, the person needs to specifically articulate why the apology is needed, otherwise the apology is meaningless. Explain exactly what you did wrong, so others know that your apology is based on an actual exercise of conscience.

Seems to me Wolf has done that.

pgroup2

NO! She’s not on ‘our’ side.

She has the correct position regarding covid vaccines.

That’s it. She needs to wander in the desert for a few years.

Aubergine

You’ve got it. She still doesn’t like Trump, while admitting that may be reflexive.

Well, hell, Naomi, do some damn research about him, why doncha ya?

kalbokalbs

Pravda News is her problem. She needs to cut the cable.

Gail Combs

Naomi has her hands full chasing Pfizer so I will forgive her lazer focus.

TheseTruths

NO! She’s not on ‘our’ side.

I said, “Naomi Wolf is already on our side regarding COVID and vaccines.”

para59r

Confused, is this the same woman that appears regularly with Bannon?

Since Naomi first started appearing regularly with Bannon I assumed she’d already turned. Certainly seems so as she fits in so well with us now.

It makes this apology thing seem more like instruction for her old friends on the left. The same ones that have long since disowned her and totally stripped her off the internet of all accolades after being a household name as a woman’s libber for several decades.

pgroup2

Precisely why it’s hollow, to me.

TheseTruths

Yes, she is frequently on with Bannon. She has does fantastic work revealing the duplicity of vaccine companies.

It makes this apology thing seem more like instruction for her old friends on the left.

Yes. Or maybe she is following her faith, which I think instructs one to admit wrongs and apologize, and that is the end of it.

(This is not aimed at you; just general observations.)
No one is saying she has suddenly turned MAGA and we have to trust her to be in, say, a cabinet position. This could be a simple situation of someone who was duped, now awakening — the very thing we want to see. And she is admitting her errors and opening herself to ridicule, which people are willing and very quick to provide. She might have included detail and links as instruction to old friends; so much the better.

People seem to be assuming that she is asking for something or expecting something, but there is not a smidgen of that in her writing.

I would be hesitant to want those who *know* everything that a person is thinking and feeling, as well as their motivations, on my jury if I were on trial. That kind of prejudgment that doesn’t even take the facts into account is the opposite of fairness.

Aubergine

If the psy-op starts up again, these same people will revert and do the same shit they did the first go-round.

They cannot be trusted. EVER.

gil00

Nope. Like miss lindsay sashays to whoever has power theyd do the same to survive.
The snake poem…you let me BACK in!

gil00

He is very right on this.
Being sorrybisnt enough, bc theybwill always do it again, corrupt others, and will have profited in some way off of lack of severe consequences.

TradeBait2

Here they come clutching whatever tools of repentance they can grasp to make a display. Jesus spoke of people like that.

She’s still a swamp critter playing a part unless she displays true humility and retreats totally from the public square. You will know them by by their fruit.

She still does not acknowledge that government operatives and police instigated Fedsurrection. Buh bye. I have no use for leftist pretense.

pgroup2

Ditto.

TheseTruths

She’s still a swamp critter playing a part unless she displays true humility and retreats totally from the public square.

I don’t understand this statement. She is a well-known person who is doing great work exposing vaccine companies. By being on Bannon and elsewhere, she is educating people. Why would she need to stop doing those things?

And as for humility, what is more humbling than saying “I was wrong” multiple times, providing the precise things one was wrong about, and being vulnerable to derision and ridicule — which is what the majority here have provided?

ROBERT BAKER

Interesting comment C. Yesterday I linked a Mark Steyn program with Naomi Wolfe where she talks about the churches, and in her case synagogues, being shut down. She mentioned that at one point during the lockdowns she was so desperate to worship God in a community setting that she went to a Catholic church and was dismayed that the parish was segregating the vaccinated and unvaccinated. So from what I heard on yesterday’s show she probably has done just what you suggest.

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TheseTruths

I believe she is starting to wake up (hence my fist comment about her being red-pilled), and that that is fantastic news.

ROBERT BAKER

It was my impression that she is mindful of God from a Jewish perspective and takes her faith more seriously than some liberal Jews I have observed.

TheseTruths

I think that is correct.

scott467

“I believed a farrago of lies.”

___________

A farrago?

What is that, a european clown car?

😂

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cthulhu

I thought it was a Portuguese boat.

scott467

“So a half of the country has been tarred by association, and is now in many quarters presumed to be chaotic berserkers, anti-democratic rabble, and violent upstarts, whose sole goal is the murder of our democracy.”

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TheseTruths

I’m surprised at the reactions from people. Naomi Wolf has been wrong about a lot of things for a long time, and she is admitting it even though there was no need to. Usually we rejoice at people being red-pilled.

scott467

I’m only one person, so maybe it’s just me.

I tend to like her when I see her, but what she wrote comes across as self-serving and condescending.

She’s not fired up and angry about being manipulated and lied to on an unimaginable scale, the way any normal person would be.

She’s just ‘sorry’, and qualifies her ‘sorry’ by repeatedly making excuses, demonstrating that she’s not really sorry at all.

I’ll believe she’s ‘sorry’ when she goes after the people who did this to our country.

cthulhu

Sorry is a good first step…..but it is only a first step. If she stops after that one, then she will still deserve whatever happens.

TradeBait2

And this ^^^

it wasn’t even a full confession. It was a kicking the dirt, I missed some of this type stuff deal. Full confession, full repentance. Until/if that happens, she is controlled op.

There is no “opinion” in what TC presented. It’s all on the video with time stamps plus tons of other evidence.

para59r

Unless she receives some deep seated resentment from non Bannon watchers on the right, this seems more slyly addressed to the left to give them a path and yank them over to the MAGA right.

For Bannon watchers this is all water under the bridge. At this point she’s done more for MAGA than even the slickest RINOs.

pgroup2

I have political acquaintances with whom I work regularly. But they are NOT trusted simply because I work with them and we share a few values.

TheseTruths

But who said anything about trusting her? That is what’s puzzling about this discussion. People don’t even seem to be comprehending what they’re reading.

singingsoul1

Dr N Wolf is an example to her liberal friends family. She is showing that one does not embrace Trump necessarily and still embrace the truth and can have the humility to admit one was wrong.
Why I am a strong strong supporter do not expect every person to like him.
She just has been red pilled and slowly she is admitting to her self how she was deceived but do not expect her to embrace all of MEGA . I am happy for her she has seen deception from her liberal group she believed.

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TheseTruths

I agree.

singingsoul1

🙂

kalbokalbs

Thank you! The circles Naomi lives in, THIS must be a huge deal. Good for Naomi AND good for those that know / trust Naomi.

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Gail Combs

EXACTLY!!!

I am puzzled that people are not happy that the scales are falling from her eyes.

singingsoul1

Must be hard on her and it is never easy to come from the dark into the light 🙂

TheseTruths

At this point she’s done more for MAGA than even the slickest RINOs.

This.

kalbokalbs

Nicely stated.

TradeBait2

This ^^^

Aubergine

Yep.

TheseTruths

There is nothing she could have said or done that would be satisfactory to people. She said she was sorry, but that was self-serving (because people can read her mind). She said she was wrong, but she hasn’t done enough even though saying you’re sorry is always a first step. She didn’t ask for anything from us, but she is being put in the same category as those who have advocated for vaccine mandates but now want forgiveness.

Some aspects of this discussion, and reactions here, are repellent to me. No one said we have to trust her now, and she hasn’t asked for that either. No one said anything except that she has realized some things. Those things will make her message more powerful for our side, and I am grateful for that.

scott467

“There is nothing she could have said or done that would be satisfactory to people.”

_____________

Very true, we each have our own life experiences and that affects how we see the world.

If I had been intentionally misled by my government and all my whackadoo Leftist friends, to the point of inflicting real harm and damage on my fellow Americans, I would be LIVID at the government and my Lefty friends who did such a thing.

My apology would not be qualified, it would be complete. I would no longer associate with the people who misled me, and I would want a Cliff’s Notes version of everything I’ve been missing while living in LeftistLand, to get up to speed as quickly as possible.

And I would want retribution, justice, against those who purposefully misled me and in turn caused me to harm others.

And I would be furious with MYSELF for having been so incredibly naive as to trust academia or government or the Left, about anything.

I don’t sense much of any of that from her comments, so it doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.

I don’t dislike her at all, I’m glad she’s waking up, I’m glad she is willing to recognize mistakes and admit them.

On the other hand, like everyone else here, I have been burned so many times by RINOs and others who say the right things but don’t mean them, that it’s hard to take anyone seriously who isn’t breathing fire.

And if I had been a useful idiot for the Left, and then discovered that to be the case, I would be breathing fire.

I wish that she was.

I would relate much better to that.

.

“She said she was sorry, but that was self-serving (because people can read her mind).”

___________

I can’t read her mind, my assessment is based on the totality of her comments, which, to me, amounted to some pretty weak sauce.

Better than no sauce at all to be sure, but I like hot sauce, and this was extra mild.

.

“She said she was wrong, but she hasn’t done enough even though saying you’re sorry is always a first step.”

___________

I’m not suggesting she has to do anything, I just know that I would be on fire for the truth if I discovered that all my Conservative friends had been lying their asses off to me for the past 30+ years, and I had unwittingly been used by them, so much so that I even caused real harm to others.

I would be furious.

More angry than I already am on a far too regular basis.

So it’s hard for me to relate to someone who doesn’t react in a somewhat similar way.

.

“She didn’t ask for anything from us, but she is being put in the same category as those who have advocated for vaccine mandates but now want forgiveness.”

____________

TT, I don’t know anything about her, except the occasional video clip or comments I read here.

I was just giving my impromptu reaction to the comments she made, same as I might do to Schlicter or Tucker who are (presumably) on the side of patriots, and as I regularly do with people who are obviously not on our side.

I’m not putting her in any category, I don’t even know enough about her to categorize her. I was just reacting to her comments in real time, based on how they struck me, as I read them.

.

“Some aspects of this discussion, and reactions here, are repellent to me.”

_____________

They needn’t be. We’re in a pressure cooker. Surrounded by enemies of the Republic. We have zero practical leadership on a national level, for a variety of reasons (both real and imagined).

It’s nice when a member of the opposition wakes up and switches sides.

But when our friends and family (and in some cases, ourselves) have been injured or killed in the trenches of this insanity that we’re living through, we can’t expect everyone to play the part of Aunt Bee when there are Terminators walking among us.

It’s great if Naomi is one of the good guys, but let’s not forget our own wounded and dying in the process. There is plenty of PTSD to go around, except it’s not post, it’s current and ongoing traumatic stress disorder. (COTSD).

There is a war going on, undeclared though it may be. It is only natural that people are cautious and reserved toward those who switch to our side, especially if they’re not laying waste to their former comrades.

I appreciate that you are taking Naomi’s perspective into account, please don’t forget to take the perspective of those on our side into account as well.

.

“No one said we have to trust her now, and she hasn’t asked for that either. No one said anything except that she has realized some things. Those things will make her message more powerful for our side, and I am grateful for that.”

____________

Me too 👍

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TheseTruths

I read the first paragraph or so and stopped at the part where YOU would want complete retribution, seemingly immediately. It’s not a realistic expectation of anyone else. I don’t agree when people think they have a right to say not only what others think (as if anyone could know that), and what others should say and think, but also on what timeline — which seems to always be their own without regard to the other person’s life experiences and history.

Paradigm shifts can take time. I rejoice to see anyone starting the journey, and especially someone who has name recognition and influence. This is a very positive occurrence.

scott467

“I read the first paragraph or so and stopped at the part where YOU would want complete retribution, seemingly immediately.”

___________

Okay.

.

“It’s not a realistic expectation of anyone else.”

____________

I don’t really have any expectations, I can only relate to what other people say in the context of my own experience, and express the same.

.

“I don’t agree when people think they have a right to say not only what others think (as if anyone could know that), and what others should say and think, but also on what timeline — which seems to always be their own without regard to the other person’s life experiences and history.”

__________

I don’t know exactly what you’re referring to here, but it may have been addressed in the rest of my post, which you didn’t read.

.

“Paradigm shifts can take time. I rejoice to see anyone starting the journey, and especially someone who has name recognition and influence. This is a very positive occurrence.”

__________

Agreed.

gil00

Oh that meme. I feel like SLJ in that scene when i hear that phrase.

scott467

Me too! 👍 😁

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scott467

“I don’t agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos as depicting “mostly peaceful chaos.””

______________

Well that’s the beauty of a video.

It doesn’t require any interpretation, the video speaks for itself.

scott467

“I believed that stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop were Russian propaganda. Dozens of former intel officials said so. Johns Hopkins said so.”

_____________

I didn’t even realize there was any credible dispute about the laptop 😲😂

How can you be so OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY to not even do a 30 second Internet search?

She’s not really a journalist, she just plays on one TV!

Gail Combs

Maybe I understand her better that the rest of you because I lived in Commie Central for years.

ALL her friends are liberals or socialists or communists. They ALL wholeheartedly believe the LIES.

It is a complete miracle she even woke up enough to be suspicious of the vaccine.

Humans are herd animals and very very few will go against the herd. NAOMI DID!

So I applaud her courage. SHE was OSTRACIZED for her courage by her former friends. She has written about that too.

ROBERT BAKER

From her comments on Mark Steyn it is obvious that she sees dangerous parallels between the covid lockdowns and 1930s Germany. She is very sensitive to the power of the State to delegitimize entire classes of citizens and she is realizing that she has become an enemy of the people she once trusted. It is a sobering recognition of how fragile the bond is between citizen and government. I believe it actually terrifies her. Her new perspective seems genuine to me.

Tonawanda

Have lived in communist environments all my life, and completely agree with your assessment. The American places where communists are the majority population are the most parochial places in America. The child-like acceptance of dogma might be just humorous were it not that sadism is the fundamental psychological state of these believers.

Neo Neocon has a great series called A Mind Is A Hard Thing to Change (or words to that effect). She wonderfully details how hard it is for a communist/leftist to get out of epistemic closure (as she did). I read Neo Neocon for years, and earlier on she was still trying hard to see things for what they really are. She eventually got there, but not without a lot of self-honesty and strict objectivity.

phoenixrising

Amen!

scott467

“I believed this all — til it was debunked.”

_________

It was all debunked from the BEGINNING.

You only ‘believed it’ when the ‘debunkers’ were people in your own orbit, faces you recognized and related to.

Tonawanda

Exactly the point Gail makes a little above. The stupidity humans need to rise above, the epistemic closure they need destroy, is both personal and communal. People often reflect the stupidity of the group they identify with.

scott467

“I believed that Pres Trump instigated the riot at the Capitol — because I did not know that his admonition to his supporters to assemble “peacefully and patriotically” had been deleted from all of the news coverage that I read.”

___________

So after the first 9 or 10 things you realized were lies, you didn’t see a PATTERN developing?

Let me guess.

‘Investigative’ isn’t your type of ‘journalism’?

scott467

“I do believe our nation’s capitol must be treated as a sacred space.”

____________

It’s a building where corrupt people go to commit their crimes with the protection of what used to be called law enforcement.

The criminals who prowl the halls and corridors desecrate that ‘space’ all day, every day.

TradeBait2

Oh…so much this ^^^

scott467

“I am sorry I believed so much nonsense. 

Though it is no doubt too little, too late — 

Conservatives, Republicans, MAGA: 

I am so sorry.”

________________

I’ll believe you when you become a zealot for tearing down the whole filthy, rotting, criminal totalitarian control system.

The same system that duped you so easily.

pgroup2

You forgot salting the earth where it stood. I want to see her lugging bags of salt.

That will be a sign of her genuine flip.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I was just about to post this.

A Big Effing Deal!!!

cthulhu

Let’s see if it leads others to The Good.

TheseTruths

It’s huge.

kalbokalbs

Naomi has done great things, tirelessly exposing Covidiocy / Covidiot Injection DEATH shots.

  • Very thankful for this.

ONLY Major qualm with Naomi’s rant. WHY, apologize to the fucking republicans.

  • Seems Naomi has a bit more waking up to do.

I for one greatly appreciate Naomi.

Maybe Naomi needs to cut the cable, to fully awaken.

  • At which point Naomi may realize J6 was a FF operation, against America. Feds orchestrated and incited whatever violence may have occurred. 99% of protestors were peaceful Americans.
  • Trump AND MAGA were Tared and Feathered on J6.
  • Speaking of J6, hopefully we’ll see more about the “timing” WSB and a few posted regarding literal coup.
TheseTruths

Seems Naomi has a bit more waking up to do.

Absolutely, and she might or might not fully awaken. I think vaccines provided a good start, and this is another welcome step for me, anyway.

gil00

How much harm or damage did she do during it all while “being misled?”
Easily misled means not much of a thinker.

TheseTruths

I’ve seen many accounts of people changing political parties or voting for someone and looking back and saying, How could I have been so stupid/ill-informed/unaware? It happens to a lot of people. When someone comes out of it, or part of it (since indoctrination runs deep) I’m willing to help them on their journey.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!

None of us are perfect so we should not cast stones but instead help the person to further enlightenment.

gil00

Definitely requires a lot of patience to do it.

Barb Meier

Robert Malone’s comment on Naomi’s apology: “Robert W Malone MD, MS
Mar 10 · Who is Robert Malone
“My friend Dr. Naomi Wolf has demonstrated her courage and integrity in this and many other essays and interviews. Please read her apology – if only those responsible for the clear breaches of ethics and rabid governmental overreach of the COVIDcrisis were so courageous, we might be able to begin to recover. Leaders of the Democratic party and many other western political parties have convinced themselves that propaganda and censorship are justified based on a utilitarian ethos of “ends justify the means”, but they use their ill gotten powers to gaslight and harass, and to stomp on fundamental civil rights. It is far past time for all who believe in the American experiment in self-governance to remember the hymn ‘stop, children, whats that sound, everybody look whats going down”

TheseTruths

CNN Adds Another Major Failure to the Books as Jill Biden’s Primetime Special Bombs Spectacularly
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2023/03/08/cnn-adds-another-major-failure-to-the-books-as-jill-bidens-primetime-special-bombs-spectacularly-n713455

The plan was simple. Get the CNN primetime spot some watch time by giving an interview with the woman America can’t seem to get away from, First Lady Jill Biden. Only there’s one flaw in the plan. Despite the fact that she’s been shoved into everything from sports to Grammy presentations, Jill just isn’t carrying water.

According to Fox News, the ratings for Biden’s primetime appearance were more than abysmal: “’Jill Biden Abroad’ averaged a dismal 368,000 total viewers compared to 2.7 million for Fox News’ ‘Hannity’ and 2.3 million for MSNBC’s ‘The Rachel Maddow Show,’ which both aired in the same time slot.”

So, not only did Biden not attract viewers to the CNN primetime slot, she chased a good deal of them away. In fact, as Fox News added, Biden’s appearance on CNN was outwatched by reruns of shows like “Friends” on TBS and “Gunsmoke” on TV Land Classics.

While this isn’t good for CNN, this is even worse for the Biden Administration. With her husband Joe embarrassing everyone every time he gets in front of a camera, Jill was supposed to be the relatable and admirable face of the Biden administration. The fact that few are tuning in to see what she has to say about the administration shows that people aren’t interested, and in politics, that’s incredibly worrying.

scott467

“According to Fox News, the ratings for Biden’s primetime appearance were more than abysmal: “’Jill Biden Abroad’ averaged a dismal 368,000 total viewers”

___________

Jill Biden: A broad?

Seriously?

😂

Aubergine

Isn’t that hilarious!?

scott467

“In fact, as Fox News added, Biden’s appearance on CNN was outwatched by reruns of shows like “Friends” on TBS and “Gunsmoke” on TV Land Classics.”

___________

She was outwatched by reruns of Bob Ross painting happy little trees 😁 👍

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smiley2

…Bob Ross painting happy trees….

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litenmaus

LOL…priceless response smiley…..thanks for the morning chuckle :0)

scott467

Bob Ross was a meme before there was an Internet!

The funny thing is everybody (of a certain age) knows who he is 😂

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smiley2

you’re welcome !

nikkichico7

Bwahahahahaha bwahahahahaha … 😂👍‼️ … good 🤨🤚‼️

kalbokalbs

Jill BiteMe IS An Eyesore. Simply horrendous sight on any given day.

Bitch needs to be put out to pasture. S P I T.

pgroup2

Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving bitch.

phoenixrising

Also shows Bydan didn’t get 81 million votes … if his wife didn’t get 1/3+- mil viewers

Talk about dumb people who still believe Joe WON!

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TheseTruths

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) told Breitbart News on Wednesday that he intends to fully release to the public the tens of thousands of hours of U.S. Capitol surveillance footage from January 6, 2021.

“We just want to make sure we go through them all, and it takes time,” he continued. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/09/exclusive-watch-speaker-mccarthy-vows-full-public-release-of-capitols-january-6-surveillance-tapes/

TradeBait2

👍

Only the stupid and totally brainwashed will be left to carry the Uniparty’s water when this is done.

para59r

When you say ‘stupid and totally brainwashed’ I assume you are including the truly evil.

TradeBait2

Of course. 👍

TheseTruths

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cthulhu

He spelled “censor” wrong.

RAC

Literal-minded comment detected.

para59r

🤔That might be why he took out the word “sensor” and added the extra verbiage in the second tweet. He may have sensed something wrong and he couldn’t put his finger on it…or doesn’t know he can delete a tweet and re-write!

OR

He’s an advanced student of Trump and knows how to call attention to his work. 😆

phoenixrising

probably using ‘audio’ – not keying in

cell phone can’t discern ‘homophones’

pgroup2

Are those queer electronic devices?

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phoenixrising

I’ve been waiting … you didn’t disappoint 😉

TheseTruths

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cthulhu

OK, now for a segment of TMI along with a bleg.

Developing over some years, and accelerating over the last year, I’ve been developing a herniated umbilicus. On one level, I can be scientific about it; whereas on other levels it is an experience too much like a bad science-fiction story. I’ve been looking into having it dealt with by surgery, but ran into a whole bunch of “you must have hypertension under control; you must have OSA under control; you must have blood sugar under control; etc.” before I’m a candidate for surgery. At the end of last year, I ended up at one of the top docs in the area and he finally said something that made sense.

He said, “there is something pushing this out, and if we just corrected it today it might pop out again tomorrow.” So he sent me over to do a CT scan to see what’s in there (I was thinking a chestburster from Alien, or maybe a 40-pound tumor). On Wednesday, I got together with him again to review the results.

“Cooth,” he tells me, “you’re full of ascites.” I replied, “well, you’re not the first to tell me so, and are unlikely to be the last — but that’s quite an accent you’ve got there.” He then went on to tell me that ascites are random fluids in the body cavity — much like edema is fluid in the legs and feet. They are often correlated with cirrhosis of the liver, to which I say, “HAH! Irish DNA!”. [Seriously, the CT says “Liver: Normal in size, contour and density. No mass or focal lesion” and that the portal vein is normal. And blood tests for liver function have been good for over a decade.]

And I’m thinking to myself…..I’ve been on two hypertension medications for a while. One is designed to relax the walls of my blood vessels, and the other is designed to make them permeable to liquid. The permeable one has me bumping along with better or worse edema all the time — maybe it’s not just leaking in my feet. This might also explain the continual coughing-up of phlegm that I had thought was because of a defective CPAP (which got recently replaced).

It is also a sad fact that modern medicine is not all that savvy as to the causes of hypertension, and both medications merely treat the symptom. A side note of the CT scan says, “Adrenal glands: 5.5 x 4.6 cm fat-containing left adrenal nodule, consistent with a myelolipoma.” Adrenal nodules sound like something that might cause hypertension.

So I’m about to head to my PCP…..and I want to tell him what the next steps will be. But first, I’m brainstorming here. Any ideas?

scott467

After the last couple years, it seems definitely worth trying unconventional therapies for just about anything besides broken bones or stitches.

TradeBait2

Which is what we as a family did. As a result we are healthier and essentially off nearly all RX.

RDS

Just IMO, but it may be that one or both of the hypertension medications may be involved here.
IMO, it’s possible to control / manage hypertension in ways that may not need to include prescription drugs, or may be used in conjunction with the correct drugs for the person —
Was your potassium level checked? That might be a factor.
Do you take a probiotic every day? That might help.
What about salt intake?
Diet changes can help, too.
So can certain “lifestyle changes”, like cutting down on stressors.

Perhaps getting the adrenal gland issue taken care of may help also.

Sending Deep Healing to you and Deep Wisdom to the PCP.

TradeBait2

This may or may not help, bud. When the chiro took scans of my torso, she showed me the fluid pockets (ascites). The adjustments have my body is correct alignment now, so nothing is crimped or contorted to allow for these pools of fluid. Their creation appear to be environmental, major candida (fungal related) in this area; as well as diet (too much sugar and processed carbs) related. I will preface this with saying I gave up alcohol nearly 30 years ago.

Over the past couple of weeks (5 weeks into it) I have been releasing a lot of fluids since going Ketogenic. I hope to have follow up scans in the next month to see what has happened with the ascites. I’m losing 2 lbs. per week with no extra exercise. My BP is in the low normal range. If that is not an option, there are elements of the Mediterranean diet in Keto that may work better for you.

Wifey is no longer on BP meds with her weight loss and chiro adjustments. Amlodipine caused problems with her system. At first it worked fine, but over time it messed her up. She just takes a low dose fluid pill every other day for her inner ear problems. Her BP would sky rocket for years. She is now low normal most of the time. Being sick can cause a BP spike once every 2-3 months, which she takes Clonidine to control. One dose of it and she is back to normal.

Good luck with figuring this out.

gil00

Good this is your adrenal is not cancerous. Deal is there they need to do some other labs and have you see an endocrinologist. Based on those results they have to either take out the adrenal gland OR leave it and repeat the CT in 1 year to check for growth. If it does grow theyll remove it. Otherwise itll just stay there.
Growth on your adrenals can interfere w bp and other things. It depends on what youve got going.
They call these “incidentalomas.”

Aubergine

Coothie, you are correct about the nodules causing hypertension:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24251175/

If they removed the mass, it might solve the hypertension. Whether they will operate or not is of course another question.

Gail Combs

Cooth do you have problems with salt? do you have low potassium?

Check out: Conn’s Syndrome Diagnosis and Testing
It is a cause of high blood pressure that does not respond well to medication.

smiley2

Cold War comedy…one of Wilder’s best…

scene from Billy Wilder’s One, Two, Three (1961)

communists…

Cagney plays the CEO of Coca-Cola’s West Berlin plant.

TheseTruths

That was great! Nice inside joke, too, with the cuckoo clock playing “Yankee Doddle.” James Cagney starred in “Yankee Doodle Dandy” in 1942.

eilert

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smiley2

the persecution of General Flynn…recap..

Flynn v. United States

article link..

https://www.uncoverdc.com/2023/03/09/flynn-v-united-states/

3/9

 👍  👍  👍 

eilert

This was probably shown in pieces elsewhere during the last days, but this is the complete compilation of the DC Police causing the riot on J6:

para59r

cthulhu

So, another random bleg…..

Where’s bfly? I miss her terribly. I hope she’s on one of the associated sites.

RDS

Yes, bfly is indeed missed.

para59r

She says she’s fine. Say’s she’s on TS, though I ran across her on GAB. But agrees, would of been nicer if she was on one of our sister sites, but I don’t think she had a history with them, not sure.

kalbokalbs

Pure delight Butterfly brings, fits in anywhere. Absolute JOY, Butterfly is.

TradeBait2

Miss her very much. Such a good soul. Hope she comes back.

mollypitcher5

I, too, want to chime in…@ bfly…miss your infectious enthusiasm and sweet spirit. Please step back in

smiley2

come back bflygirl come back !!

 💕  we miss you here. 💞 

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Aubergine

Me, too. I miss her.

scott467

Me too. I noticed she had not been posting recently, but didn’t know why. Glad to know she is okay.

Barb Meier
para59r

ty Barb! Not there often at TS but it would be nice to have someone more than Trump on follow.
Okay… found by only using name. Not extra stuff… ty!

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eilert

Capitol Security Info – Portal Submission | Republican Committee on House Admin
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GA/FL

Who is going to trust them?

Gail Combs

THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT!!!

pgroup2

Only fools would trust that the donkey party will never get ahold of that list.

duchess01
duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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eilert

smiley2

ah yesssss

the Psychopath smirks

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eilert

Carpe Dunktum found the culprit who defaced that “Pride Flag”

para59r

Gail Combs

Gee, they should see the road around here!

I could out fit all my vehicles and trailers with the amount of rubber left on the road.

gil00

Why yes i did feed my tamigochi….

ROBERT BAKER

I must say that I am surprised that the Motion Picture Academy of Arts turned down Zelensky’s request to address the world at their shindig. Rather, I would have expected the Academy to give Zelensky an Oscar for his role as Ukrainian President. The Academy missed another opportunity to generate a ratings bonanza and make the awards relevant again.

mollypitcher5

Maybe they finally noticed that virtue signaling political agendas at an entertainment event doesn’t make them relevant . It makes them simpering morons that many refuse to watch and also reveals the “stars” themselves biased points of view that turn many people off to even watching their stupid movies . Don’t mix politics with business

gil00

It takes away time from them celebrating themselves.

kalbokalbs

^^^ Yup. I stopped watching their self created “love fest”, to their greatness, thirty plus years ago.

gil00

Itd be tolerable if there was only 1 award show for music and one for film, but this is a never ending festival.

mollypitcher5

That too !

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ROBERT BAKER

I expect they looked at box office receipts and read the tea leaves.

eilert

phoenixrising

ALERT: Iran and Saudi Arabia agreed to restore ties and to reopen respective diplomatic missions after talks in China, state media in both countries reported Friday

https://insiderpaper.com/iran-saudi-agree-to-restore-severed-ties-state-media/

t.me/insiderpaper/17513

JUST IN – Joint Trilateral Statement by China, Saudi Arabia and Iran on the deal of Saudi-Iran ties and re-opening of embassies

Follow Insider Paper for more news

t.me/insiderpaper/17514

phoenixrising

via zeroHedge

FTA

Snip … “… The detente is also a surprise given the warming relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel, based on attempts to bring Riyadh into the Abraham Accords. Very likely, this new agreement which was helped along by China will delay any possibility of the Saudis and Israelis establishing official relations on an accelerated timeline.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/archrivals-iran-saudi-arabia-restore-ties-china-brokered-deal

phoenixrising

Bernhard at MoA has piece on the detente’ between KSA and Iran:

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Mediated By China Iran And Saudi Arabia Restore Ties – There Are Winners And Losers
This is huge!

Regional rivals Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to restore ties after years of tensions

The deal, which will see the two countries reopen embassies in each other’s capitals, was sealed during a meeting in China and announced Friday in a joint communique.

Archrivals Iran and Saudi Arabia agreed Friday to restore diplomatic relations, a dramatic breakthrough brokered by China after years of soaring tensions between the regional rivals.

The deal, which will see the two countries reopen embassies in each other’s capitals, was sealed during a meeting in China — a boost to Beijing’s efforts to rival the United States as a broker on the global stage.

The agreement also may put a dampener Israel’s ongoing efforts to normalize relations with its Arab neighbors.

The talks were held because of a “shared desire to resolve the disagreements between them through dialogue and diplomacy, and in light of their brotherly ties,” according to a joint communique from Tehran, Riyadh and Beijing that was published by the Saudi Press Agency, the country’s official news agency.

The agreement followed intensive negotiations between Ali Shamkhani, a close adviser to Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khameni, and Saudi Arabia’s Minister of State Musaad bin Mohammed Al-Aiban, according to the statement.

It added that the foreign ministers from both countries would “meet to implement this, arrange for the return of their ambassadors, and discuss means of enhancing bilateral relations.”

The joint statement by Saudi Arabia, Iran and China is here:

Snip … ” … There are winners and losers in this.

The winners are:

  • Iran, which will now be even more able to break through the sanctions wall the U.S. has put up around it.
  • Saudi Arabia, which now will likely be able to end its disastrous and costly war on Yemen.
  • China, for outplaying the U.S. State Department by achieving this.
  • Iraq, Syria, Yemen as they will become more peaceful as the two middle powers influencing policies on their grounds end their rivalry.

The losers are:

  • Israel, because the chances for its attempts to get the U.S. into a war with Iran are now diminished. Its hoped for coalition with the Saudis will not come into being.
  • The U.S. for having been outplayed on its traditional ‘home grounds’ in the Middle East.
  • Anti-Iran hawks everywhere.
  • The Emirates for losing at least some of the sanction busting trade with Iran to Saudi Arabia.

This renewal of relations will change the Middle East:

Cont. reading: Mediated By China Iran And Saudi Arabia Restore Ties – There Are Winners And Losers

phoenixrising

from the comment section:
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“Only an hour or two later … didn’t take China very long at all … once the ducks were in a row …

China to US: Stop plundering Syrian resources, pull troops out, Presstv.ir, Mar10’23

China has called on the United States to stop plundering the natural resources in Syria and withdraw its military forces from the country.”We call on the United States to sincerely respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of other countries, and to immediately stop its illegal military presence and marauding in Syria,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning told a news briefing on Friday.

China also urged the US to lift the illegal sanctions slapped on Syria and to stop all actions that exacerbate the humanitarian crisis in the country.

The United States has illegally intervened in military activities related to the Syrian crisis, which has led to the death of a large number of innocent civilians and a serious humanitarian disaster,” Mao said, adding that his government calls on the US authorities to lift “illegal unilateral sanctions” against Syria and to stop actions that aggravate the humanitarian situation in the country.

According to the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson, since 2014 the Syrian crisis in the country has resulted in at least 350,000 people losing their lives in the violence, and 14 million being in dire need of humanitarian aid.

kalbokalbs

The US should leave Syria. Sucks when Chinee are right. Snowball growing.

Please

Between Russia and the ME, China has oil for long long time

scott467

“China, for outplaying the U.S. State Department by achieving this.”

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In fairness, in order to outplay the U.S. State Dept., all they had to do was show up.

phoenixrising

Via Andrei Martyanov’s blog … comment lifted: (I can find nothing from MSM)

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US senator said that the United States has no protection against Russian missiles

Russia still poses a significant nuclear threat to the United States, says Roger Wicker Ranking Member of the Senate Armed Services Committee

The United States does not have the means of protection against modern Russian strategic weapons, including Poseidon nuclear torpedoes. This was stated on Thursday by Senator Roger Wicker (Republican from Mississippi) at a hearing in the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“Russia still poses a significant nuclear threat to the United States. Moscow has a larger and more modern nuclear arsenal than we do. It can also create additional nuclear weapons in a short time,” he said.

Wicker added that “Russia has created nuclear weapons that have no analogues in the United States, including nuclear torpedoes capable of crossing the ocean, as well as intercontinental ballistic missiles.” “This is a weapon from which we have no protection,” he pointed out.

The senator also noted the growing danger to the United States from China. “Beijing is modernizing and expanding its nuclear forces at an eye-popping rate. It will probably overtake the US in the early 2030s,” Wicker continued.”

kalbokalbs

^^^ T R U E.

Yet the morons in DC are hell bent of poking the Bear. <<<Dumb fucks.

Gail Combs

That is why I wrote the case for nuclear war. The Cabal wants to wipe out the USA one way or another and are not above using nukes to do it.

ROBERT BAKER

It is the land they want; it is the people they don’t need. The land is more valuable than many serfs. I do not believe they want to contaminate the land except as a last resort. If nuclear war actually occurs on a global scale it will be because the cabal has lost and as Alfred says, “Some people just want to watch the world burn.”

I never thought about it until now but that may be why Revelation talks about a new heaven and new earth. The old earth was not only corrupted but literally contaminated.

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kalbokalbs

Which is why I floated neutron bomb, a week or two ago.

They want the land, unspoiled.

  • They don’t give a rats ass about “cities”.
  • They want the resources, land potential and of course, the literal beauty of America. other countries as well.
  • Speed bump of sorts along the way is, killing off, 15 of 16 folks on Earth.
ROBERT BAKER

I haven’t heard much about neutron bombs in many years. I wonder how many they have.

kalbokalbs

Dunno. Here’s what a couple quick searches pulled up.

Google What countries have neutron bombs?

  • By numerous accounts, Israel and China have tested and possess neutron bombs. The strangest case, however, is that of Russia.

Do Russians have neutron bombs?

  • The only country definitely known to deploy dedicated (that is, not dial-a-yield) neutron warheads for any length of time is the Soviet Union/Russia, which inherited the USSR’s neutron warhead equipped ABM-3 Gazelle missile program.

US – Bush in 1992, following the end of the Cold War. The last W70 Mod 3 warhead was dismantled in 1996, and the last W79 Mod 0 was dismantled by 2003, when the dismantling of all W79 variants was completed. According to the Cox Report, as of 1999 the United States had never deployed a neutron weapon.

From Wiki.

neutron bomb, officially defined as a type of enhanced radiation weapon (ERW), is a low-yield thermonuclear weapon designed to maximize lethal neutron radiation in the immediate vicinity of the blast while minimizing the physical power of the blast itself. The neutron release generated by a nuclear fusion reaction is intentionally allowed to escape the weapon, rather than being absorbed by its other components.[3] The neutron burst, which is used as the primary destructive action of the warhead, is able to penetrate enemy armor more effectively than a conventional warhead, thus making it more lethal as a tactical weapon.

The concept was originally developed by the United States in the late 1950s and early 1960s. It was seen as a “cleaner” bomb for use against massed Soviet armored divisions. As these would be used over allied nations, notably West Germany, the reduced blast damage was seen as an important advantage.[4][5]

ERWs were first operationally deployed for anti-ballistic missiles (ABMs). In this role the burst of neutrons would cause nearby warheads to undergo partial fission, preventing them from exploding properly. For this to work, the ABM would have to explode within approximately 100 metres (300 ft) of its target. The first example of such a system was the W66, used on the Sprint missile used in the US Nike-X system. It is believed the Soviet equivalent, the A-135‘s 53T6 missile, uses a similar design.[6][7]

The weapon was once again proposed for tactical use by the United States in the 1970s and 1980s, and production of the W70 began for the MGM-52 Lance in 1981. This time it led to protests as the growing anti-nuclear movement gained strength through this period. Opposition was so intense that European leaders refused to accept it on their territory. US President Ronald Reagan ordered the production of the W70-3, which remained in the US stockpile until they were retired in 1992. The last W70 was dismantled in February 1996.[8]

mollypitcher5

Also gives a tiny bit of credence to the idea that sending millions of people from other places to Western nations thins out the populace in resource rich countries and puts the humans in much more densely confined cities. Easier to target?

mollypitcher5

Well that’s a sobering thought. They and the malignant forces that drive them need to decimated …like yesterday

kalbokalbs

100% agree, with your conclusion and artile(s).

phoenixrising

via zeroHedge
GOP Presidential Field Rallies Around One Idea: Declare Drug Cartels Terrorists
FTA

Snip … “… Once the Mexican drug cartels are placed in the same legal category as al-Qaeda and ISIS, the Republicans now competing for the presidency have revealed an appetite for more than financial assets. Former President Donald Trump, who is running again in 2024, promised in January that he would “designate the major drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations” and then deploy special forces to “inflict maximum damage” on their infrastructure and operations.
A Trump campaign spokesman told RCP that the goal is simple: “Stop the scourge of drugs and violence from crossing our southern border.” The plan, straightforward: “Declare war on the cartels.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gop-presidential-field-rallies-around-one-idea-declare-drug-cartels-terrorists

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Mexican President responds:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mexico-president-rebukes-calls-us-military-action-cartels-offense-rcna74200

barkerjim
phoenixrising

Not our Butterfly !

Ohh, we miss ya darlin’ … hope to see you soon  😍 

Dora

The media doesn’t care.

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The Biden Admin Lost 20,000 Migrant Children, and That’s Not the Worst Part
The Biden Admin Lost 20,000 Migrant Children, and That’s Not the Worst Part – PJ Media

RAC

It may take a few years till the true jab toll becomes apparent, and the focus become those who gave the orders.

TradeBait2

Those who read my BIMD about the House of Haslam will now better understand why Buffett has made the closing of the purchase of the family stock of Pilot Flying J such that Berkshire will own 80% control – making it wholly owned per corporate law.

This is the way the globalists do things. They get in bed with RINOs like the Haslams who have been successful in business and carving out a national niche. They capitalize on scratching their itches to do other things – politics, sports, etc. The purchase of the family owned giant is arranged over time to both’s benefit. Buffett forks over $11.4 B over 5.5 years with the Haslams still retaining 20% to take advantage of Buffett’s future plans.

Buffett is getting bigger in distribution. Going for control of all things tied to the population’s needs. Food, energy, construction materials, housing, EV’s, etc. PFJ is already contracted with GM for 2000 EV charging stations in their travel centers by 2026.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathway-pilot-gas-stations-ev-charging-network-2023-3?op=1

eilert

kalbokalbs

Swing AND Another, Miss. D-Rats, Deep State and Pravda News total failures.

barkerjim
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phoenixrising

Did this parent prep the child? The children are given the words they will be tested on … it’s a matter of rote … flashcards and drills!

kalbokalbs

Cracking up, I still recall a Daughn post. Daughn posted about getting 95%, or whatever high score (not 100%), on a spelling test in grade school.

As Daughn posted, she bragged about the high grade to her father.

Daughn’s father chastised Daughn, she should get 100%.

  • After all, the school gives the test in advance, with each word, spelled correctly.
phoenixrising

Exactly! When the gr/grands spent week-ends with us when they were in grammar school… I spent lots of time drilling them… helping to prepare for spelling tests on Monday. Earlier, that’s how they learned multi-tables … flash cards and drills. I have encountered young adults today who don’t know their tables…

phoenixrising

oops … that should b ‘grands’ – not gr/grands! who are three and five … although their parents practice what this ol’ lady taught ,,, they memorize scripture among other things …

RedLegLeader68

I miss Miss Daughn !!

kalbokalbs

Yea, Daughn is wonderful. Hope she is doing well.

cthulhu

Daughn has been at Marica’s….but I gather she is currently REALLY BUSY.

phoenixrising

Big Timber day on Wall Street: Bank Panic

Bank Stocks Plummet as Bank Runs in the U.S. Gain Momentum at Federally-Insured, Non-Traditional Banks

If you keep a diary or news journal, be sure to write down March 9, 2023 as the day that a full-blown bank run began at non-traditional banks in the U.S.Bank depositors were already nervous after federally-insured Silvergate Bank (ticker SI) announced on Wednesday evening that it was closing and liquidating. Its publicly-traded stock had already lost over 90 percent of its market value over the prior 12 months at that point.[.]

Unfortunately, the bank panic spread quickly yesterday to other banks – both large and small. PacWest Bancorp (ticker PACW) lost 25.45 percent of its market value by the closing bell yesterday while First Republic Bank (ticker FRC) fell by 16.51 percent. Mega banks on Wall Street were also not immune to the fallout: Bank of America (ticker BAC) lost 6.20 percent while the largest bank in the U.S., JPMorgan Chase (ticker JPM) – which is also battling lawsuits and escalating press about its ties to deceased child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein – fell by 5.41 percent.[.]

And there is Credit Suisse, Vanguard

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2023/03/bank-stocks-plummet-as-bank-runs-in-the-u-s-gain-momentum-at-federally-insured-non-traditional-banks/

I took a look at zerohedge’s website … didn’t stay long … headlines don’t bring any smiles

eilert

Gary McBride on What’s on The 8,000 Hours of J6 Footage He Has | Frank Speech the Home of Free Speech

He downloaded this videos, when he was told not to. Wink! Wink!
M5 News – Fight for the Truth, Eagles Nest (m5newsgate.com)
The above link shows hours of bodycam from DC Police:

The Truth…J6 Full BWC Footage of Officer BAGSHAW Part 1 of 2. WE THE PEOPLE WILL DO THIS!

The Truth…J6 Full BWC Footage of Officer Bagshaw Part 2 of 2. WE THE PEOPLE WILL DO THIS! (3hrs 24min)

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eilert

Ray Epps appears at 23:25 in Part 1

phoenixrising

WSJ: Saudi Arabia, Iran Restore Relations in Deal Brokered by China

In Israel, the announcement of restored Saudi-Iran ties was met with dismay.“The Saudi-Iran deal is a total failure of the Israeli government’s foreign policy,” said Yair Lapid, the opposition leader. “It’s the collapse of a regional defense wall we started building against Iran.”

barkerjim
Valerie Curren

For any of us who are paying Gab-sters here is a creative use of the movie feature making a political statement quite humorously 😉

[video src="https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/131/187/732/playable/b018dc3916f66da4.mp4" /]

https://gab.com/Whistler1001/posts/109994873917327580

Video plays at gab if not here, 1/2 minute…

Valerie Curren

Further insights on certain politicos 😉

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Zombie Maxine Waters hears a noise.

https://gab.com/dmduncan/posts/110000125526953768

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Killary

other iterations at the Gab post here: https://gab.com/JayRoss55/posts/110000104320332162

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kalbokalbs

Looks like Maxi… Such a horrid face and despicable attitude.

Valerie Curren

Yep, evil finds its true form! LOL

Valerie Curren

Another version of evil

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more at Gab post here: https://gab.com/dmoreno78/posts/110000954911023865

I think this might be Fauci in an accurate representation!

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more at this Gab post: https://gab.com/dmoreno78/posts/110000942809778847

multiple images, Pete Butt-trains, FJB-toilet, Commie-La–Leprechaun

https://gab.com/dmoreno78/posts/110000922431871578

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Valerie Curren

DP shared a tweet the other day w/ a short Dr. Thomas video in an open. There are several videos here including what appears to be the source for that twit video clip.

https://www.naturalblaze.com/2022/12/dr-paul-thomas-why-another-great-md-lost-his-license.html

This man is amongst the doctors being actively hunted by the cabal for telling the truth about vaccine dangers to kids & has done some work w/ RFK jr, I believe.

Dora
phoenixrising

The View should be cancelled …

TradeBait2

I would be worried if she didn’t. Positive affirmation we are doing things right. She’s never been right about anything.

phoenixrising

Gail Combs

How about prosecution under HATE SPEECH???

phoenixrising

Amen … About time too

RedLegLeader68

How ’bout me dropping a 175mm on her seat on the AAG in NVA? Just sayin’ …

mollypitcher5

Lol…yes, skip all that time consuming and never satisfying prosecution stuff!
I’m sure the old gal has forgotten the years of pro lifers murdering abortion doctors and staff… I don’t think it was acceptable then either

Gail Combs

Isn’t that BITCH dead yet? I guess even Satan doesn’t want her!

phoenixrising

JUST IN – U.S. bank regulators seize Silicon Valley Bank in largest bank failure since the Great Recession — AP

https://www.disclose.tv/id/100115/

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/silicon-valley-bank-crashes-65-halted-pending-news

TradeBait2

Going to go ahead and release my latest BIMD in a few minutes. After this one in a week I will be releasing a discussion with financial autopsy on dumb bank owner decisions from back then to help educate the flock.

We need to prepare.

Precipice.

phoenixrising

Thank you TradeBait … I hope they read and act
I feel like the Greek Kassandra … you and about 4 others read my posts ,,,

phoenixrising

Scott, how do I go about buying gold/silver coins… Catherine Fitts suggest we use cash (not the debit card) whenever possible… see https://home.solari.com/

Gail Combs

Try talking to Kirk

Coupon Code: JON
• Free Gold/Silver Consultation
http://kirkelliottphd.com/badlands/

he is now doing a show with Jon Harold
Badlands Economy Update – With Jon & Kirk Elliot – 3/6/23https://rumble.com/v2bzi2q-badlands-economy-update-with-jon-and-kirk-elliot-3623.html

phoenixrising

Thank you so much!

Gail Combs

You are very welcome.

scott467

PR, did you mean me?

It’s a complicated question, but I’m happy to try to explain my ‘take’ on it.

[it’s hard to do without covering a lot of information, and I suspect what most people really want to know is “what should I do”, so I’ll give an example of what I would do at the end, I won’t leave you hanging with a bunch of details!]

I would guess she means to use cash if buying from a local coin shop, because a cash purchase won’t be as easy to track if the gov’t decides to confiscate at some point.

But the coin shop has video cameras, so some kind of record is going to exist, and there are coin dealer reporting rules regarding large transactions, and apparently it’s hard to get any substantial amount of cash out of a checking or savings account without triggering all sorts of bank reporting to the gov’t.

We always aid and abet the gov’t by pretending they’re stupid, but they’re not, they know exactly how to seal off all the exits and exploit every advantage available to them, and then they play dumb, like they’re just incompetent.

But they’re only incompetent in one direction, the direction that benefits them and hurts everyone else.

So, paying cash at a local coin shop is probably best if buying smaller amounts and buying on a regular and long term basis. If you have the time, you could build up an emergency reserve, and no one besides your coin dealer(s) would know.

If buying local, I would do an online search to get a list of local coin dealers based on my zip code, pick 5 or 10 that are located in areas you feel safe going to, and then do a check on their business name with the Better Business Bureau to weed out any who either haven’t been around very long, or have significant numbers of complaints.

This shouldn’t take more than about a half hour or so to do.

Then go to a website that posts current prices for several of the bigger online dealers, like this one:

Silver prices are at the top, gold prices are further down:
https://comparesilverprices.com/silver-gold-products/

The prices are not always accurate, so it’s a good idea to click through on the name of each dealer to verify that the price chart at https://comparesilverprices.com/silver-gold-products/ is up to date.

Once you have an idea of what prices are like online (so you have a baseline for price comparison with local dealers), and you have a list of 5 or 10 local coin dealer names, I would call each one and find out their prices, or just visit their websites if they have them.

Since there are a large number of different types of silver and gold products (bars, coins, generic rounds, junk silver, etc.), you will want to decide beforehand exactly what you are interested in, and ask about those specific items, so each phone call can be quick and to the point [I’ll tell you what I would do at the end].

Then call each of the 5 to 10 local dealers, ask about their current price for your pick of 3 or 4 specific items, make a note of their prices, and call the next dealer, until you get through the list. People on youtube do this, and demonstrate that prices do vary quite a bit from one local coin dealer to the next, so it’s worth doing, especially if you intend to make a sizeable purchase.

There are pros and cons to various different products. If cost was no object, I would just get 1oz American Silver Eagles, because they are always in demand, they have a beautiful design, and they are a sovereign coin of the United States with a legal tender value (only $1, but it is legal tender).

The problem is that American Silver Eagles have a ridiculous premium above the silver spot price, so if the spot price of silver is $20, the dealer price for a 1oz Silver Eagle may be $40, i.e., you have to pay twice the spot price of silver to get it.

By comparison, it looks like 1oz Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins are going for $28 each today.

Canadian mint coins are nearly as popular and in demand as U.S. mint coins, in demand all over the world, etc., but significantly cheaper than U.S. mint coins at the moment.

There are also Britannias (UK silver 1oz coins), Austrian Philharmonic 1oz silver coins, Mexican Solidad 1oz silver coins, South African Krugerand 1oz silver coins, and others.

Basically any sovereign national mint coin is going to serve the purpose of a highly recognizable and liquid product, and each will have a slightly different price at any given moment (with a big jump in price for the American Silver Eagles).

Then there are silver generic ’rounds’, which look like coins and often have similar images as found on coins, but they are made by private mints, so they are not official government minted coins. They still have the same 0.999 silver content and should say so on the ’round’ itself.

The generic silver rounds are cheaper than the sovereign gov’t coins, so you get more silver for your purchase dollar.

Then there are silver bars, which come in lots of different sizes and weights, but the most common sizes are 1oz, 10oz, 100oz, 1 Kilogram, and 1,000oz bars.

Generally speaking, the larger the size, the lower the premium charge over spot. So if the silver spot price is $20, then for example, a 1oz generic silver round may be $20 + $2.50 premium = $22.50 per round, and a 1oz silver bar might be the same.

A 10oz silver bar might have a $2.25 premium per ounce, so 10oz x $22.25 = $222.50.

A 100oz silver bar might have a $2.00 premium per ounce, so 100oz x $22.00 = $2,200

A 1,000oz silver bar might have a $1.50 premium per ounce, so 1,000 x $21.50 = $21,500

If you are only buying a small amount of silver, then the premium difference is negligible. You probably don’t want a 1,000oz bar unless is it being stored at a vault somewhere.

But if, for example, you were buying 1,000 ounces (of any product), the difference starts to matter.

1,000 silver eagles (1oz) might cost $40,000

1,000 silver Canadian maple leafs (1oz) might cost $28,000

1,000 generic silver rounds (1oz) might cost $22,500

100 x 10oz silver bars might cost $22,250

10 x 100oz silver bars might cost $22,000

Same amount of silver (1,000oz), but the cost in fiat dollars varies.

The same general principles apply to gold, but gold has lower premiums and because it is so much more expensive, is usually purchased in much smaller quantities.

Gold is safest and less volatile than silver, but gold also (generally) has less appreciation potential than silver. So most analysts recommend acquiring some of both, and the ratio depends on risk tolerance and/or age.

So the older you are, the less risk tolerance, the higher the percentage of gold should be.

So for example (only for demonstration purposes), someone in their 20s might want 85% silver, 15% gold.

Someone in their 40s might want 70% silver, 30% gold.

Someone in their 50s might want 60% silver, 40% gold.

Someone in their 60s might want 50% each, or maybe 45% silver, 55% gold.

Someone in their 70s might want 70% gold, 30% silver.

Someone in their 80s or older might want 90% gold, 10% silver.

Gold is the closest there is to a sure thing. Silver is more volatile, so it has more upside potential (especially if the traditional 15:1 or 16:1 value ratio is reestablished, compared to the current 91:1 ratio).

Basically, gold is the ultimate preservation of wealth insurance, and silver is a little less preservation but with a little more potential for appreciation, if that makes sense.

If the time horizon is short, or you just want to obtain some precious metals *right now* for insurance against a financial collapse scenario, then there may not be any real advantage to paying cash in person at a coin dealer vs. buying online, unless the cash is coming from under your mattress.

At an online dealer, the reason to use cash is because the purchase of physical precious metals is priced in tiers, and you get the lowest price if you pay cash, which means they lock your price when you click the website ‘buy’ button, and then you have something like 3 to 5 days for your check to get to them.

If you use crypto ‘currency’ it will cost a little more per ounce, and if you use a credit card, it will cost a little more.

At Providentmetals.com right now, a 1oz silver eagle is $31.74 cash (pay by mailing them a check), $32.07 per ounce if paying online with crypto, and $33.06 per ounce if paying by credit card.

If buying in volume, prices come down a bit (e.g., 100oz, 500oz, etc.).

And most online dealers ship for free on orders over a specified amount, which varies from online dealer to online dealer.

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What I would do:

If I was starting from zero, and had (for example) $10K to obtain some precious metals, I would first decide the ratio of silver to gold I wanted.

Suppose it was 60% silver ($6,000) and 40% gold ($4,000).

For the silver portion, I might get 70% generic silver rounds (because they are cheaper per ounce) and 30% sovereign coins.

For the sovereign silver coins, I would probably get 1oz Canadian Maple leafs or UK 1oz Britannias, whichever was cheapest (whichever has the lowest premium over spot).

For gold, I would probably get 2 x 1oz American Gold Eagles or Canadian Gold Maple Leafs, and use the leftover funds to buy a few more ounces of silver, or a fractional gold piece. A 1/10th ounce American gold Eagle is about $270.

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If I was investing a larger amount, I would diversify more, so I might get some generic silver rounds, some silver sovereign coins, some silver bars (probably 10oz). I might also get a bag of “junk” silver, which is the term for old U.S. coins that have silver content (all dated 1964 or earlier), so long as the premium over spot price was not too high (it has been high, lately).

For gold, I would probably stick with 1oz American Eagles and 1oz American Buffalos, unless for some reason the sovereign gold coin of another country was substantially cheaper.

If I had a large lump sum to invest, and didn’t have time to dollar cost average, I would probably use at least a couple or three different online dealers, just because you can never be too safe.

And if possible, I would want to try to “layer in”, i.e., maybe buy 1/3rd of the total I intend to purchase the first week, and then another 1/3rd the following week, and the final 1/3rd the week after that.

If you go “all in” all at once, and the market goes down, you end up further underwater than you would if you were able to spread the purchases out at least a little bit.

I hope this is at least somewhat helpful, if you have any specific questions, I am happy to try to answer (without writing another book 😉).

kalbokalbs

Excellent insights. Thank you.

scott467

I just checked, American Silver Eagles are $31.76 each at Provident at the moment, so considerably cheaper than the example I used above of $40 each.

And it looks like 1oz Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins are going for $25.66 each at Provident right now, so again cheaper than my example above which was $28 each.

For comparison, the cheapest generic 1oz silver round (looks like a coin but made by a private mint) is $24.26 each.

Please

remember also prices fluctuate with the daily price of the metal. Silver and Gold were down a lot this week, but today, Friday, they both went up ~ 2%.

But for comparison, the last time silver was this low, closing $20.53, was mid October 2022.

Sellers usually quote pricing as “$3.50 over spot” meaning $3.50 over the current price per ounce (of silver in this case).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And “spot” fluctuates minute by minute, so they’re wise to do so. If they quoted you an absolute price and then you showed up three hours later after silver or gold shot up, they don’t want to be held to that prior price. Conversely, if it went down you don’t want to be held to it.

phoenixrising

I am so grateful for the book! 😉 I am struggling about whether to sell the house or not … grandson and bride are going to leave the country (I agree with them that they should. ) I won’t have any resources to speak of when the crash comes and there is no pension, s/s … except the house and property, and that won’t pay the bills! I figure the gov’t will seize the property anyway … so …
your suggestions are all appreciated and I will copy and use them.

My late Father grew up in the Great Depression (this one will make that look like a walk in the park) and I heard some terrible stories… just trying to make the right decisions … may have waited too late to sell the property as interest rates are going to rise even more (causing more inflation for us serfs etc) … again, thank you so much!

kalbokalbs

PR,

Assuming grandson and bride have identified a country to move to, AND if Ok to share, what country? If NOT, FULLY understand.

This one, one the surface appears to be really prying, but not meant to be. Information is for evaluating what I may do. I KNOW, I GOTTA do something. Time is NOT on our side.

  • If you sell the home / property, where would you head off to? State, type of property…?
  • I also understand, totally unknowable, what direction you may opt for.
phoenixrising

You’re not prying Kal …

wrt gr/son & bride… they will probably go somewhere in Asia… tbd. They might have decided on Central America, but it looks as though US will start with Mexico and take their resources, then move into C.A., so … they are young, their only obstacle is language.

As for me … my concern is not to be a burden to any of my family. I am quite old to make a move and I could have another TIA or major stroke (both parents did) … I want to be able to use Medicare as long as I have, so I was looking at the Yucatan or even Baja CA, Mexico … I could fly in to the states probably Texas where gr/daughter and family are … she’s a minister and I don’t see her and hubby leaving any time soon. See what angst I am dealing with 😉

kalbokalbs

Appreciate it.

What to do, where to go…huge conundrum for me. Looking at a mixed bag.

  • Within the States, NE TX, W AR or Southern OK.
  • Philippines in a relatively normal world, doable.
  • English commonly spoken. Could get Dual Citizenship, which would get rid of “Visa” issues. (Would NEVER cash in my US citizenship.)
  • BUT, “Rights” take a beating. Starting with 2A. I could buy / bribe my way into a license to own a gun. But they could revoke it anytime.
  • All of my retirement “income” is derived from USG – Navy retirement, GS, SS. IF that evaporates, I’d be screwed. Of course, this is also true, if I am in the States.
  • >>> Covid wise, Philippines was draconian. Not as bad as Aussies, but very over bearing. Global Immunization Passport BiteMe signed the US up to, is a foreboding thought. <<< Couple it with WHO dictating health around the Globe. Terrifying.

Anticipate we’ll be, in The Philippines May 1 through July sometime.

In the short and mid term (year, perhaps two), likely a hybrid of two locations. NE TX and Philippines. Long term, who knows.

phoenixrising

Last words … you spoke, are the crux of the matter.. Who knows. We each have to follow our instinct … and that still, small voice…

kalbokalbs

small voice, carries a lot of weight.  :wpds_wink: 

phoenixrising

Kal, if you want info about places outside the Country, search for communities where expats have settled. There are almost as many leaving US as illegals coming in, mostly retirees because they can live so much cheaper outside … 😉 Key in for instance “US expats in Costa Rico” or wherever…

kalbokalbs

Thanks. If I were to leave the US, it would be for the Philippines. DW has significant family there.

RedLegLeader68

Also check to make sure SS checks [direct deposit] are accommodated there.

kalbokalbs

Appreciate the caution.

You prolly know this. Huge, US Citizen Expat community in the Philippines. Huge.

My understanding is, SS can be direct deposited in Philippine banks. Perhaps my Navy retirement and GS as well.

If not, Philippine National Bank is also in the States. Could draw in the Philippines.

Dunno about any caveats by the Philippine Government.

Retirement income is NOT significant enough to rouse IRS or any of those shit heads. Well, except my annual Fed tax filing. Required wherever I may reside.

My BIGGEST concern, potentially living in the Philippines. Collectively:

  1. The NEXT Pandemic.
  2. Philippine Government Edicts.
  3. AND whatever grip WHO may have on the Philippines.
scott467

You are very welcome 🙂

I would suggest caution before making any, shall we say, ‘radical’ moves.

There is an amazing amount of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) right now, and it’s impossible to know how much is manufactured (fake) and how much is reasonable.

For example, the precious metals dealers obviously have an interest is selling ‘fear’. If people are not afraid the world (as we know it) is about to end, they won’t be motivated to buy silver or gold.

And that makes coin / bullion dealers has sadz 😂

Everyone plays upon fear, and unfortunately, the elderly are a prime target.

Leaving the country has some attraction for sure, but where can you go that is:

1) safe
2) financially stable
3) low cost of living
4) minimal language barrier
5) good employment opportunities (or other source of income)

Since nowhere really qualifies as ‘safe’, I would add:

6) Constitutionally protects the right to keep and bear arms

In any other country I am aware of, you are depending on the gov’t to protect you in an emergency, and when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

In the U.S., you have a guaranteed right to protect yourself.

So that’s something to think about.

scott467

“I won’t have any resources to speak of when the crash comes and there is no pension, s/s … except the house and property, and that won’t pay the bills! I figure the gov’t will seize the property anyway…”

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If the gov’t starts seizing real estate, taking peoples’ homes, for any reason, I think the GOA (gun owners of America) are going to have something to say about that 👍😉

The elderly VOTE.

As a practical matter, if the gov’t intends to remain in power, they are going to have to provide Social Security payments to the elderly.

If we have hyperinflation, the gov’t will have to make cost of living adjustments to social security payments.

We pay attention to a lot of negative news here, and while it’s good to be aware of current events (as much as we are able to separate fact from propaganda fiction), we can’t (of course) be sure of what the future may bring.

DJT could win in 2024. He certainly must have a plan to overcome the fraud, and if so, he will certainly win.

That would change everything going forward.

Trump won’t allow the country to collapse, to the contrary, he will have a popular mandate to fix things.

As you likely already know, the general idea behind precious metals is as an insurance policy.

Generally, the recommendation is to have around 10% of investible resources in precious metals, because if everything else drops to 10% of current value, precious metals should increase by (at least) 90% or more, offsetting the losses in everything else.

So suppose you have $100K in assets like stocks, bonds, etc.

Suppose you put 10% ($10K) in precious metals as an insurance policy.

If the remaining $90K in paper assets crashes all the way to zero (unlikely, but this is just a hypothetical), the $10K in precious metals should go up at least 10x in value, essentially making you whole as far as purchasing power is concerned.

When the future looks a little more bleak than usual, maybe a 15% allocation to precious metals makes more sense.

When it looks like Mad Max world might be around the corner, maybe a 30% allocation to precious metals makes more sense.

If you have 30% in precious metals, and there is an ‘end game’ financial crisis, that 30% you invested in precious metals should more than compensate for other losses (and then some).

It may make sense to consider a 10% allocation to precious metals for insurance, and an additional 10% (or 20%) allocation to precious metals as an investment.

The idea of insurance is to carry enough to make you whole in the event of loss.

The idea of investment is to grow or increase what you have, so it is helpful to distinguish the two.

One might consider going to a much higher percentage, for example, a 10% allocation for insurance, and 50% (or more) as an investment.

That may turn out to be a very wise choice, or it may not.

Many people who ‘stack’ silver over the long term spend a considerable time being ‘underwater’, i.e., their precious metals are worth less than what they paid for them, and those precious metals provide no dividends or income in the meantime.

So finding a proper balance is important. Determining what the best balance is, is the hard part.

If I knew for sure that the entire financial system was going to collapse next week, I would go all-in on precious metals tomorrow.

But we can’t know that it will happen next week, or next month, or next year, or it may take ten years. Or longer.

And ten years is a long time to be holding an asset that has zero return on investment until or unless we sell, and if the precious metals market isn’t up enough to cover our investment cost, we can only sell at a loss.

So I guess what I’m trying to say is that there are (of course) a lot of factors to consider, and I don’t want you to get hurt, or get stuck with a significant percentage of your assets in an investment that could be underwater for an unknowable amount of time.

It would not hurt to speak with a financial advisor if you have not done so already, though finding one who even understands the concept of including precious metals in one’s investment portfolio may not be easy.

I’m sorry about all the stress this causes, it shouldn’t be this way, especially for people who are in what should be their golden years. The people who lead our country should never have allowed the People of our nation to be in this situation.

I know how hard it is for me. We didn’t ask for any of this, and I sure wish we weren’t in this mess. It would be even harder if I was 20+ years older.

Just be careful, and know that everyone here loves you, stay in contact, and I think we’re going to be okay. 👍🙂

phoenixrising

Scott, I think the dollar will crash before Nov. 2024 … 85% of the world is going to stop using it. Some give it 2-3 years … personally I give it about 18 mos. +-

I’m sure you don’t agree… and that’s okay.

I am a careful person… and I intend to stay in contact … thank you for all your kind suggestions, and regard.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I know I’ve seen predictions of imminent (within the next few months) demise of the dollar for decades. I know people who ran up their credit cards in the early 00s buying precious metals because they thought it’d happen soon. (That would have been a decent move, had the collapse come to pass; without it, it was a crappy move.)

And it hasn’t happened yet.

However, this is the first time that there’s been a lot of chatter about foreign countries/people not using the dollar for foreign trades and reserves.

And THAT would certainly cause a major drop–the biggest in the history of the dollar by far–though it might not be a total collapse.

pgroup2

Don’t trust dollars? Buy rubles. Russia ain’t going nowhere but up. Best thing that ever happened to Russia was BiteMe trying to sanction it to death.

And keep in mind that Putin will let any disgruntled American reside in Russia. So there’s always somewhere to go.  😂 

phoenixrising

Too cold in Russia … I like vowels … the yardman won’t take Rubles! You’re right about sanctions and work arounds improving Russ’ economy!

scott467

“Scott, I think the dollar will crash before Nov. 2024 … 85% of the world is going to stop using it. Some give it 2-3 years … personally I give it about 18 mos. +-
I’m sure you don’t agree… and that’s okay.”

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I don’t disagree, I just can’t be sure, at least with regard to timing. Watch (or read) any 3+ analysts, and you will get just as many opinions, all seemingly backed with solid data and arguments that make sense.

It certainly could crash before 2024. It could crash on Monday.

I have several subscription financial newsletters and watch several different analysts on youtube every day.

One thinks everything is blowing up soon, maybe within a few months, maybe sooner.

Another doesn’t expect any dramatic collapse, at least not in the next few years.

Others are somewhere in between.

One thinks the U.S. stock market could be volatile until October, and then it should move higher.

Another thinks the market is getting ready to drop substantially, and precious metals will drop at the same time, as institutional investors who were leveraged long in the stock market have to sell whatever they have, whatever is most liquid, which includes precious metals, which is why precious metals usually drop in sympathy with the stock market when the stock market has a big downward slide.

Some think the FED is clueless and bungling into collapse. Some think the FED (Jerome Powell in particular) knows what he is doing, and is at war with the WEF / EU / Globalists, not because Powell or the FED are good guys, but because the FED is beholden to U.S. commercial banks, and the U.S. commercial banks don’t want to give up power to the WEF / Euro commies.

Much foreign debt / loans must be repaid in U.S. dollars. As U.S. interest rates rise, people around the world who borrowed in U.S. dollars need U.S. dollars to make their loan payments, at the same time the FED is draining liquidity.

So demand for U.S. dollars goes up, at the same time as supply of U.S. dollars is going down.

This should (at least for the near term) strengthen the U.S. dollar vs. other currencies and strengthen the U.S. dollar against gold, meaning the price of gold and silver should go down in U.S. dollar terms (at least in the near term), while the price of gold and silver should go up in the currencies of many other nations.

At the same time, as U.S. interest rates rise, domestic corporations that were treading water at near zero interest rates are now in big trouble with higher rates.

When some large financial institution fails due to interest rates being hiked faster and higher than any time in recent history (or faster than ever, depending on how you measure it), does that cause a domino effect (financial contagion), and if so, at what point does the FED step in, and ‘pivot’, start cutting rates, and turn on the money printer again?

What is really going on?

No way to know.

I thought the whole financial system was going to collapse 10+ years ago.

It should have collapsed on multiple occasions going back to 1980, and yet it’s still going…

pgroup2

You need the services of a probate/trust lawyer. Property in a trust is unlikely to be taken. Too much legal hassle.

phoenixrising

God Bless you Pgroup … the thought struck me the other day that I could put it in trust … thank you for affirmation… I feel as though the Spirit is speaking!

kalbokalbs

That is Good To Know.

scott467

edit / correction: “Mexican Solidad Libertad 1oz silver coins”

No idea where “solidad’ came from, the Mexican sovereign silver coin is called a Libertad 😂

rayzorback

My neighbor call leftist idiots “Libtards” 🙂

kalbokalbs
pgroup2

A stupid coin?

RDS

This is just great, thank you.
IMO, having a bag of “junk silver” is a good idea for anyone who can afford it to store.
Also IMO (and this may cause a ruckus  🙂 ), it might be an idea to think about getting a CombiBar of either silver or gold.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A combibar isn’t bad.

But don’t break it apart unless you absolutely need to do so in the post-apocalyptic world to make change. Resale value goes way down if it’s broken. (Once the SHTF you’re not going to be concerned about resale value.)

And I don’t disagree about junk silver either, but (again, a pre SHTF consideration) the buy-sell spread is huge. Bad investment, good prep.

RDS

Agreed. IMO, the “junk silver” bag and the CombiBar should probably be considered as “dire emergency” items.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’d probably not bother with a silver combibar simply because junk silver does exist for small amounts (0.072 ozt in a dime–and that dime will probably be trusted by the recipient)…but gold, on the other hand…it’s hard to find in less than ounce sizes without paying an outrageous premium over spot.

Linda Harrison

Hi Steve – are you familiar with the 2013 B note star project for one dollar bills? I have one and have checked the website to see if the duplicate was listed to no avail. I wasn’t sure if I should go ahead and list mine or not. I didn’t know if there would be a downside to it. Any thoughts? Thank you.

kalbokalbs

“Prep”, is the sole purpose of whatever metals I hold.

Bonus of sorts, gold and silver looks really cool.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, don’t bust it up even if it’s for prep…just in case the S doesn’t HTF and you have to sell it down the road.

Wait until you need the small change.

kalbokalbs

Yea. One of these days I may scarf up some CombiBar gold. While the mark up is significant, the utility in SHT,F is significant. Or so I believe.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

…and of course some of my PMs are in numismatic coins…coins valued not because of what they are made out of but because the coin itself is rare. That’s definitely not “prep” except for old age when I will need the money back.

pgroup2

You forgot to mention the cost of insurance when the product is shipped. The notion that “oh it’ll be okay” is as ignant as can be.

Every person who handles the shipment could be a criminal. And the fact that the origin of the package is a bullion dealer is like putting a day-glo red star on the box.

One should not underestimate the value of junk silver beyond its melt value. Because of the Hunt Bros. effort to corner the market in 1980, huge numbers of junk silver coins were melted down.

Perversely, this caused the dates with the largest number of minted coins to now be the rarest dates. The production totals of each coin per year now have relevance to the current numismatic value inversely to the good old days.

Always go to estate sales because that’s where hoarded silver coins can be found. They can be purchased for spot but they might well have some rare dates in with the common dates. You’ll never know unless you buy the stash. The bonus is that if it was a fruitless search, you can always sell the silver you bought [assuming you were on a numismatic hunt].

Just for the record, your comment was better than some PM seminars that I have sat suffered through.

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kalbokalbs

^^^ Good information to consider, before online purchases.

FWIW.

APMEX shipments are shipped, tracked AND insured. Part of the cost of the metal(s).over $199. <<< Most everything, IMO.

Packaging IS bland, with NO indication of APMEX or contents.

scott467

“You forgot to mention the cost of insurance when the product is shipped. The notion that “oh it’ll be okay” is as ignant as can be.”

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Very much agreed.

It was my understanding that all of the big name online dealers ship registered mail and insured, with free shipping when purchasing over a specified amount (which varies from dealer to dealer) but always check.

If the dealer is offering free shipping for purchases over $100, and I was buying 5 silver 1oz coins for a little over $100 to get free shipping, personally I wouldn’t worry about whether they used registered mail or whether the package had insurance if it wasn’t provided for free.

If I was buying any amount over a couple hundred dollars, I would make sure it had insurance and was being shipped by registered mail.

My understanding is that registered mail is signed for at every stop/exchange of carrier along the way, from the sender to the recipient, and is always recommended for shipping coins or bullion (from dealer to you, or from you to a dealer).

If sending coins or bullion to a dealer, it should be packaged a particular way, which the dealer may expect you to know (and do), and there are videos on youtube showing how.

Here is the packaging video from SD Bullion I just found, which has some related good information about registered mail and insurance with regard to coins and bullion:

Any professional dealer should ship in an unmarked package, but it’s a good idea to ask.

And many of the big online dealers ship for free on orders over a specified amount, which varies from online dealer to online dealer.

Always check to make sure whether insurance is included (and if not, add it if desired), and that they are using Registered Mail for anything you want to be insured.

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Linda Harrison

Hi Scott – I have a few thoughts about this. If you “mail” precious metals using form 3806 it will automatically provide proof of ownership and will defeat paying cash from the dealer. If you have a significant amount of precious metals at home you might want to consider adding a rider to you homeowners policy to cover it. You could also ask if the metals were to be shipped, would they be covered in transit. I would think the metals would be covered if kept in a bank vault and if you transit them to and from the bank.

If you move out of the country would you have to mail it to yourself? I wonder what the rules the new country would have and how hard would it be to get rid of (sell) at the end and how much would you lose if the market falls because everyone is getting rid of theirs too.

If PR owns her home and sells it do you think she would be able to buy something else with the amount she gets in profit. The value of all houses are going up but you may not get enough to buy on the other end, If you own outright, I would think it would be cheaper to stay where you are and only pay utilities. The guy a few doors down from me fell on hard times and didn’t fix up his house or anything for years. The town couldn’t oust him because he owned the property. He recently had a heart attack and died, the house has been condemned. I am not sure what the town will do now but at least he had a place to be and the neighbors looked out for him and he housed all of the feral kitties in the neighborhood.

scott467

“Hi Scott – I have a few thoughts about this. If you “mail” precious metals using form 3806 it will automatically provide proof of ownership and will defeat paying cash from the dealer.”

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Hi Linda, agreed, I would probably not ship to an online dealer unless I had purchased from an online dealer, in which case there is already a record of it at NSA and probably every other federal agency anyway.

My concern about not being tracked is related to the possibility of gov’t confiscation, but I don’t think that is likely, because unlike back in 1934, nobody believes in the gov’t today.

I suspect compliance would be practically zero, and the gov’t can’t readily go door to door and rob people at gunpoint.

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“If you have a significant amount of precious metals at home you might want to consider adding a rider to you homeowners policy to cover it.”

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Agreed, but then your insurance company knows what you have stored at home, and there’s no way to keep that out of their computer system, and once it’s in their computer system, there’s no way to know who knows about it. Or how many insurance company employees know about it.

So personally, I would not want to have any significant amount of precious metals at home, or anything else that was really valuable, to avoid being a target of theft.

This is of course a big issue with precious metals. If you decide to acquire some, how do you keep it safe?

In many cases, any significant amount should probably be stored in a commercial vault. Then you have storage fees and counter-party risk.

If you store in a vault, you probably don’t want to have your bullion stored as part of a ‘pool’ account, you would want it stored as a separate or allocated parcel belonging specifically to you, i.e., not listed as part of the vault’s balance sheet.

This costs more in storage fees, but is likely worth it, because if the vault company goes bankrupt for some reason, items that are provably yours (for which the vault was only a paid custodian) don’t go to the creditors, like assets listed on the vault’s balance sheet (i.e., part of an unallocated or ‘pool’ account) would.

There is also the issue of domestic vault companies being subject to pressure from U.S. gov’t agencies regarding the possibility of confiscation / seizure.

The gov’t could not easily go door to door to force everyone to turn over their metal in a confiscation scenario, but they could very easily go to every commercial storage vault in the U.S. and confiscate the contents, and the vaults would have to comply with whatever bogus law or executive order was passed to justify the theft.

There are lots of ways things can go bad.

If the gov’t was really as incompetent as we are all supposed to believe, why is it so hard to protect our property from them?

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“You could also ask if the metals were to be shipped, would they be covered in transit. I would think the metals would be covered if kept in a bank vault and if you transit them to and from the bank.”

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I don’t know, that would depend on the fine print on the insurance rider. And if something happens to the shipment, how hard is it going to be to get the insurance company to honor the claim?

With Registered Mail + insurance to the specific package, I suspect it would be easier to recover from a loss than through a home insurance company.

.

“If you move out of the country would you have to mail it to yourself? I wonder what the rules the new country would have and how hard would it be to get rid of (sell) at the end and how much would you lose if the market falls because everyone is getting rid of theirs too.”

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Another interesting scenario related to the portability (or lack thereof) of metal.

You could mail it to yourself, depending on whatever exit rules may exist in the U.S., and whatever entrance rules may exist in the new country of residence.

Selling before you move and repurchasing after arriving at the new residence would be easiest, but then you have to deal with potential tax consequences, which could be cost prohibitive.

I would consult with a professional bullion dealer (and a lawyer) to figure out how that situation is commonly handled, or the best way to handle a scenario of that nature given one’s individual circumstances.

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“If PR owns her home and sells it do you think she would be able to buy something else with the amount she gets in profit. The value of all houses are going up but you may not get enough to buy on the other end, If you own outright, I would think it would be cheaper to stay where you are and only pay utilities.”

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I suspect it depends a lot on the real estate market you are in and the real estate market you are wanting to move to, since prices are climbing in some parts of the country and declining in others.

The latest data I have seen shows that real estate values (and sales) are declining in most areas now, due to the higher interest rates.

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“The guy a few doors down from me fell on hard times and didn’t fix up his house or anything for years. The town couldn’t oust him because he owned the property. He recently had a heart attack and died, the house has been condemned. I am not sure what the town will do now but at least he had a place to be and the neighbors looked out for him and he housed all of the feral kitties in the neighborhood.”

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I’m glad he had a place of his own, and neighbors who knew him well enough to look out for him.

I hope he is in a better place now, where hard times are no more.

I hope that for all of us, when the time comes 🙂

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Linda Harrison

Thank you for your thoughts on this. I retired from a major insurance company, actually handled insurance riders, we didn’t have a problem with employees stealing from customers.

My thought was, once you filed form 3806 they could just send you a letter and not go door to door. They already have the proof.

scott467

“Just for the record, your comment was better than some PM seminars that I have sat suffered through.”

___________

Thank you, there are a lot of things to try to remember!

And the more that I wrote, the more that occurred to me, and pretty soon it was a book 🤦‍♂️😁

Gail Combs

Well I certainly read them!

Actually one of your comments is in my next article.  🤓 

phoenixrising

Thank you dear Lady … rainy here in the Sandhills and I am feeling overwhelmed with the ‘whirl’ across the globe …

Hope you are having a good day, and the animals are well …

Gail Combs

Rainy here too.

I get the feeling we are now in the middle of the ‘Storm’

Many Patriots are feeling ‘battle fatigue’ and take some time off to recharge.

pgroup2

Just remember to support whirled peas.  😆 

phoenixrising

TY for your wit … I LUV it …

pgroup2

That’s because 5 people love you so much you don’t need nobody else.  😍 

phoenixrising

You are so profound Pgroup … you’re right too!

kalbokalbs

Looking forward to this BIMD.

Barb Meier

Thank you, TradeBait! A recruiter emailed me yesterday afternoon about my (or my network’s) interest in a 6-month+ contract with a “prestigious Investment
Bank” as a Learning Design/Development Analyst. I thought of you and dug
around a little. Saw how volatile the banking sector looks including about SVB
at Wolf Street. Today, it went boom.

Gail Combs

Thanks for the warning. I have an article ready for release but I will release it tomorrow.

RDS

TradeBait2
One agrees with you. The “ripple effect” has the potential to be enormous.
Say, for example, a person owns a few residential real estate properties. If tenants are unable to pay their rent due to being laid off / having their hours cut from the “ripple effect”, the results can be bad.
This is on top of the fact that many local governments have raised either the real estate tax rate, or the “assessed value” rate for such tax, or BOTH, this year.

para59r

For what it’s worth…

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. . . CNBC Bullshit Artist Jim Cramer Recommended BUYING SVB Stock ONE MONTH AGO

h/t Liberty Daily (featured story)

phoenixrising

Thanks Para …

Please

There is a running joke about anything JC says is sure to do the opposite

RedLegLeader68

TL;DR – is there a brief?

phoenixrising

Apparently there’s a coup underway in Jordan

https://www.mfa.gov.jo/

phoenixrising

oops … thos website is apparently a George Soros controlled site …

disregard .

My apologies…

barkerjim
Dora

https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg ʟᴇғᴛ ᴄᴏᴀˢᴛ ᴠᴀɢʀᴀɴᴛ https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg on Twitter: “The FBI didn’t want to raid Mar-A-Lago, but the DOJ at direction of Merrick Garland DEMANDED that agents raid the private property of a US president! https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f6a8.svg https://t.co/0UwpKots7C” / Twitter

RedLegLeader68

I’m about 50% believing this: what say Christopher Wray?

kalbokalbs

Garland has an ax to grind. Garland demanded the raid

Wray is a weasel. Does what others tell him to do.

Please

Or was glad to allow a less-skilled player to take the credit/blame …

phoenixrising

In silence
in the core of my soul
a moment of harmony..bliss
a moment of prayer…gratitude
a moment of truth…clear vision
a moment of well being..contentment
a moment of beauty
a moment of love…

~ Colette Haddad

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Valerie Curren

Since it’s Friday & this is just darn fun!

https://gab.com/possiblyyourneighbor/posts/109999500975386071

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“Sly and Prejudice, great film.”

https://gab.com/possiblyyourneighbor/posts/110000169449765974

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Thank heavens several swift roundhouse kicks to various production team faces spared us all from the horrors of a 1995 Pride and Prejudice starring Colin Firth.”

Hopefully DP forgives this touching on one of her faves irreverently, iirc 😉

phoenixrising

I don’t understand your comment – Colin Firth DID appear in a 1995 version of ‘Pride and Prejudice’ – Britbox streams and I view 😉 0r has my reading comprehension declined so much? 😉

phoenixrising

nevermind … I guess you did a little modification to tease DP and I glossed over it 😉

Valerie Curren

I honestly don’t know which P & P had Colin Firth but I thought DP had mentioned how much she loved it 🙂

phoenixrising

the 1995 version 😉

Valerie Curren

Thx 🙂

Valerie Curren

We really love the P & P version that has Keira Knightly as Elizabeth Bennet!

Gail Combs

para59r

Yes, we ran this one way back in the beginning. Comments ran something like, and I paraphrase here, “Likely gained Ashley Babbit’s trust on the way up to the capitol and led her to her death”.

If anyone remembers and I’m sure some will, someone gave her a short walking interview on the way from the speech to the capitol.

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para59r

kalbokalbs

Had not seen this video. Thanks for posting.

para59r

Actually went back to our Jan 7th 2001 thread and found it there.

kalbokalbs

Wow. Jan 7, 2021. Long drive that day. Tyson’s Corner, VA to Nashville TN..

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para59r

phoenixrising

‘Thimble minded’ … love it!

I even know some folks for whom that label would float right over their heads

para59r

😮

h/t https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/oops-aussie-comedian-says-the-vaccine-quiet-part-out-loud/

kalbokalbs

T R U T H. ^^^ Not posed to happen on Aussie National TV.

phoenixrising

Lifted comment … Tradebait, Para, others… may have thoughts about portion wrt SVB and T Bonds and mortgage backed …

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“The US banking system is collapsing. Regime media is trying to distract people about the SVB collapse (2nd largest in history) by saying it was about high risk investments to tech startups.

That’s BS. In fact, the collapse was due to SVB holding Treasury bonds and mortgage backed securities as assets. The value of both assets has imploded. Any US bank with these assets in their portfolios is now exposed. This includes giants such as J P Morgan and Bank of America.

We won’t know how bad things really are until markets open on Monday, but when you have world class morons and pathological liars like Janet Yellen saying that the system is resilient, you can bet that the true state of affairs is catastrophic.

America is going to pay an extremely heavy price for ‘electing’ the Obama/Biden regime. They are beyond incompetent, there isn’t a word in English that describes how bad they are. They’ve been an epic disaster since Day 1, and will continue to inflict debacle after debacle on the US, until they are removed from power.”

Please

They are beyond incompetent, there isn’t a word in English that describes how bad they are. They’ve been an epic disaster since Day 1, and will continue to inflict debacle after debacle on the US, until they are removed from power.””

OR, they are really competent at destroying the USA from within, silently, in front of everybody, with weak plausible deniability and anyone who notices is hammered as a conspiracy theorist etc.

kalbokalbs

The latter. Intentional destruction from within.

^^^ Only explanation for EVERYTHING, BiteMe and his goon squad, have inflicyed on America since 20 january, 2021.

phoenixrising

Comment lifted:
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Several additional facts for SVB:

They held low interest bearing Treasuries. The market went from 1.5 to 4.5% They didn’t unload the Treasuries when the rates started climbing.
They did force all the startups they financed to hold 100% of their cash and revenues in the bank. So most of their customers get wiped out because most of that money is not insured.
They and hedge funds have been dressing up dog companies and trying to sell them. They have run out of buyers for those bad investments.

gil00

Ponzi bank scheme?

para59r

Or ponzi economy?

Anyway, too hard to say at say at this point either way.

With rising interest rates there’s a lot of money moving around right now. People are taking big chunks of cash out and reparking them elsewhere.
Mostly moving the money away from things that give them the gitters.

Apparently SVB tried to cover some withdraws with assets that were less than they appeared and came up short, thus the bank run. I believe they are listing some real-estate funds, some bit coin stuff and some tech monies as being the ones that were worth less than they were written up to be.

SVB being the go to bank in Silicon Valley and everyone there being plugged in were fast to get wise to the potential problem and thus the run on the bank that in turn exposed soft rotten parts in the economy that the bank was connected too.

The bank is FDIC insured so the little investors will be okay. That currently covers $250,000 per depositor. If your smart you have an account in your name to that amount and one in the wifes name in that amount and your covered up to half million, (note I operate under the assumption it’s $250,000 per account so if you had multiple accounts you’ll be okay. However I’d hate to put that to the test, heck I thought FDIC only covered up to $100,000 per deposit when I started to answer this, so that shows how well I’ve been keeping up). It’s the money that exceeds the $250,000 per depositor that is subject to getting wiped out. Currently no more deposits may be withdrawn and the money from SVB has been moved to a more stable bank. Fair market dividends for the amounts they can no longer get access to at this point are going to be paid while they sort things out.

Anyway, there has been some effect in the wider Financial Markets that have caused a lot of gitters. This SVB is effecting good guys and bads guy (understands Charles Schwab took a huge hit) as well so I’m seeing this more as a ponzi economy thing. But with that being said, our economy is huge and should be able to take this blow as long as everyone does not turn into snow flakes… For which there is no guarantee but I literally bank on the fact the spill over will be contained for now.

Not sure that answer is complete or correct. All assumptions. Tells you better in 10 years from now. 😁

kalbokalbs

Good info.

phoenixrising

ZeroHedge has article …

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/record-bank-run-drained-quarter-or-42-billion-svbs-deposits-hours-leaving-it-negative-1bn

Looks like Jamie Dimon may be the winnah!

A run on SVB may have been engineered …take a look.

para59r

Now we are getting a better picture.

from yours… re.. engineered…

Prominent venture capitalists advised their tech startups to withdraw money from Silicon Valley Bank, while mega institutions such as JP Morgan Chase & Co sought to convince some SVB customers to move their funds Thursday by touting the safety of their assets.

I had put some roll up article on the speaker earlier, it covered headlines, one after another… one mentioned something about two persons in side the bank.. I didn’t catch who, (ceo, president?) who had been pulling out money prior to the collapse. Because of the nature of the article I was listening to I could not find from which article it was actually from.

phoenixrising

I experience that alot … read so much, and can’t find what I what to post … drive-by messenger is all I can manage … let you all connect the dots 😉

Thank you for all the dots you connect …

I share your thoughts about ‘possible ponzi economy’ – am seeing lots of controversy about how USG calculates GNP and how economy is not as great as claimed … as you say, we will see, in a decade or so…

kalbokalbs

Addition to above.

My understanding. <<< As I am NOT a financial guru, worth validating.

Joint Accounts are insured up to $500,000.

  • $250,000 each owner. (Husband / wife…)

^^^ This applies to banks FDIC and Credit Unions NCUA.

gil00

Its helpful. Its getting lost in the shuffle of newss.

para59r

answered under giloo.

phoenixrising

Thanks …

phoenixrising

via https://t.me/intelslava/45693 click for image – text is below

The Ukrainian Orthodox Church has been informed by President Zelensky’s government that it is to be expelled from its holiest site – the Kiev Caves Lavra – by the end of March.

The canonically-recognised Orthodox church in the country has prayed and struggled there for over 1,000 years.

para59r

Has that too. Posting above you…

para59r

This was interesting. (As Phoenix says…)

The Ukrainian Orthodox Church has been informed by President Zelensky’s government that it is to be expelled from its holiest site – the Kiev Caves Lavra – by the end of March.

The canonically-recognised Orthodox church in the country has prayed and struggled there for over 1,000 years.

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t.me/intelslava

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Until told different I’m going to believe this is more to do with Kiev wanting under ground defenses as they wait for the Russian storm heading their way.

Curranty in Bahkmut they are entering into a large industrial site with extensive multiple underground floors. Similar to what was in Maripol.

Intel Slava is just now provding more detail. (12 floors deep!)

 Forces of PMC “Wagner” broke into the huge industrial zone AZOM in Bakhmut – says the militant of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

“The Russians entered the industrial complex, we are trying to knock them out, they have entrenched themselves at night, we are trying to storm their positions,” says the Nazi.

As reported, the assault groups entered the Artyomovsk Metal Processing Plant from the north and began moving deep into the territory of a huge enterprise with dense industrial buildings and a network of underground utilities that go underground up to a dozen floors.

t.me/intelslava

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Also not remarked on from Col McGregor’s last talk was he anticipates the Russians not to mount the large offensive on the ground until near the end of June now because of ground conditions being too muddy. This of course favors Zelensky and NATO and allows them to build up defenses and thus prolongs the war.

It also means Zelensky is willing to see Kiev turned into rubble. Hopefully people deal with him soon.

Ooops… more under ground stuff.

It is reported from the field that a serious battle is going on in the market area on the right bank of Artyomovsk (Bakhmut).

Presumably, the advanced groups of the Wagner PMC were able to cross the Bakhmutka River and began moving towards the city center.

According to RT, between the market, the bus station and the building of the Artyomov school No. 5 there is a company stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a system of passages under the houses and an ammunition depot.

From there, the tunnels lead to the central part of the city – to the alley between the lower and upper parks, the Avangard stadium, as well as the Artemovsk pre-trial detention center and the machine-building plant.

These points are located in the geographical center of the city .

t.me/intelslava

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scott467

So imagine if you will, that the bulk of the professional Ukrainian army has long ago been wiped out, and now most of Ukraine military are unwilling conscripts without military training.

Including civilians up to age 55 or older, without any prior military training.

These men, supposedly, are taking on the professional Russian military. We hear of pitched battles, the Russians taking serious casualties, etc.

Does this seem realistic?

Imagine men from your own town or city, up to age 55, dragged against their will into forced military service, with zero training. How would they do, against a young, professionally trained Russian military?

Personally, I don’t think they would last 10 seconds, much less weeks, or months.

They don’t have the training.

They don’t have the morale.

They don’t have the leadership.

They don’t have the weaponry.

They don’t have hope.

Because no group of poorly led and untrained civilians has a chance in a direct head to head confrontation with local police officers, much less a professional military.

It’s… ludicrous.