“What if, in all the possible scenarios except the one currently playing out, billions of people, instead of the millions dying now, are wiped out? By whatever forces we are up against, known or unknown, seen or unseen?”

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Conceivable, but seems unlikely. More conceivable at the beginning (either 2016 or 2021) than now, because what you describe sounds like a sort of hostage situation, e.g., someone has a doomsday weapon (bio, nuclear, something else) and is threatening to use it.

If that was the case, the original response could make sense, but 3 years is an eternity for military intelligence to locate and eliminate whoever poses that threat.

It could be a decentralized threat, like self-launching nuclear warhead missiles inside shipping containers distributed all over the U.S., as one of the scenarios was discussed a year or more ago.

3 years is still a long time to locate and eliminate all of them.

The other really big problem that I always come back to is the secrecy.

In WWII, WWI and every war that has ever taken place in human history, the public (who stood to lose the most!) participated in their own defense and survival.

Whether it was men on the front lines, Rosie the Rivetter in the factories, mafia working with Feds to watch the docks and import/export, regular citizens keeping an eye out for anything that looked suspicious, and on and on and on.

When total destruction is a potential outcome, the public has a vested interest to know, and a God-given right to defend themselves, and the government has a Constitutional (and economic, and moral imperative to protect and defend the public.

If total destruction is a potential realistic outcome, then total mobilization of every available resource (involving the public) is mandatory. You don’t hold anything back, because doing so only diminishes your chances for survival. You need all hands on deck.

We’re not doing anything like that. Not even a teeny tiny bit. So apparently we’re not in any danger of annihilation, which, in turn, means there is even less justification for allowing all the destruction and loss of life to take place.

And besides all that, the government, our government, has no right to keep such a thing from us. They work for us, not the other way around. We the People created the Constitution, the Constitution created the government to serve and protect We the People.

Not We the People plus all the other billions of people of the world. We the People of the united States of America. If we can help them too, then by all means do so, but not by sacrificing 220+ million of your own people to do it. That’s definitely not part of the bargain.

Our Constitution, and the government we pay for, is a national Constitution, for a Sovereign People, not a global one.

If the white hats are in control, they don’t want our input in any way, except busy work to keep those of us who are paying attention occupied with a wild goose chase to enlighten people who don’t want to know.

Maybe that’s helpful in some edge case scenario, but it was never going to be determinative, because you don’t wait around until everyone understands and agrees on who the bad guys are to do something about a national threat.

You eliminate the threat, and then show everyone. If someone in leadership has a bad case of the feelz, and just needs to show everyone first, then DO it. Like we did at the U.N. during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Lay it all out, make your case before the People of the whole world.

What you don’t do is dick around for six years in a whisper campaign to wake everyone up, while 220+ million of your own countrymen get injected with death vaxx.

Besides that, if you wait until everyone crawls out of their safe space, mentally engages and comes to terms with their inner child, you’ll be waiting until the dawning of the Age of Aquarius, or our sun goes super nova. It’s ridiculous.

And besides ALL that, as a practical matter, the gov’t cannot even be allowed to keep a war secret from the public which it (the gov’t) serves. Our gov’t can’t even lawfully fight a war that We the People don’t authorize.

This makes good sense, because if the gov’t was allowed to do such a thing, how would We the People ever know if we WON, or whether we LOST and were taken over by a hostile victorious nation?

That’s why you can’t HAVE a ‘secret war’, not one that involves the potential loss of your own nation.

So there are ALL KINDS of problems with whatever it is that ‘we’ are supposedly doing.

The prime directive of the U.S. military, to protect and defend the Constitution and the Republic, is not and never was dependent on John Q Ostrich taking his head out of the sand.

But it very much does require the Authority and Approval of the American People who don’t have their heads in the sand, because that’s who the gov’t works for and serves.

We the People have RIGHTS.

The gov’t has duties and obligations, first and foremost, to We the People.

“And the game is ongoing. It is not static, and never will be.”

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Then are we not locked into a permanent state of never-ending war, with the MIC ruling the world, because we can never know who is winning, or who is losing, or even who won, or who lost?

In WWII, people could see who was winning, and who was losing. It took time for damage reports to travel across the world, the military obviously knew days (or weeks) before the public, but the public was aware of enough to know whether we were winning or losing, victories and losses on various important battles, etc.

If Hitler had won, everyone would know, and we’d all be speaking German now.

But suppose there was a secret war, and we lost.

How would we know, if the victors forced our Congress and judges and the goof in the WH to be their subjects, their proxies, their occupation ‘Vichy government’ to secretly rule over us, in exchange for getting to keep their positions of power, wealth and influence over us?

This is why you can’t have secret war when it could result in the loss of your own country, you end up in a scenario where you lose and the People becomes subjects of a hostile foreign adversary without even knowing it. And their lives just get worse and worse and worse, hollowed out and destroyed from the inside without resistance, while the proxy gov’t officials, like Jews who sold out their own people to the gas chambers, live a life of luxury.

A lot like the country we live in right now.

You could have a secret war in little countries all over the world, like the criminal See-i-A does every day of the week, and it won’t be lawful, but it also doesn’t lead to the possibility of losing your own country.

If your own country is in danger of being lost, you can’t keep that a secret, because if you lose, the People never know they’ve been taken over.

And the People, whom the government exists to serve, never have the opportunity to defend themselves.

Preventing the People from knowing about a war that could result in the loss of their own country is an unpardonable crime of the Highest Treason.

It could only be done by bureaucrats who have no lawful Authority to make such a decision.

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Another big issue is that just like Russia knows (and comments about frequently), we also know that an exceptionally small number of globo-tyrants and oligarchs are responsible for ALL of the global insanity.

For Agenda 2030, Event 201, depopulation / genocide, Climate Scam, Operation Constant Chaos (my own name for it), lawfare, weapons-grade propaganda against civilians, Vaxx-genocide, etc.

It’s all being orchestrated and funded by less than 100 people, probably less than 20 people.

And none of them are leaders of any nation, they are ALL private citizen billionaires, or more likely, trillionaires.

A handful of individuals with more money than anyone in the universe besides God.

These international criminals benefit from having no nation to defend, and yet have control over greater financial resources than any nation on earth (including ours).

They are terrorists, psychopath tyrants whose only desire is to destroy humanity.

It would take about 30 seconds for any of the larger nation-state militaries to wipe them out.

Our own Constitution provides for just such a problem, authorizing the issuance of Letters of Marque and Reprisal, against specific individuals, for specific crimes.

The bearers are the Letter of M&R (e.g., Navy SEALs) can cross any border to carry out their mission.

There is nothing, N O T H I N G whatsoever, that requires us to be sitting ducks, for going on half a decade, while John Q Ostrich gradually stirs from his deep slumber.

There is nothing that justifies allowing 220+ million Americans to be injected with Death Vaxx, or 5+ billion people around the world to be injected with Death Vaxx, because nobody can figure out what to do about 20 people who are committing genocide.

If any government is too weak and pathetic and corrupt to stop it, then lots of patriotic individuals within any such government can RELEASE the NAMES and EVIDENCE of the CRIMES to the PUBLIC.

And the PUBLIC can find these bastards and eliminate them, if the militaries are too big of a bunch of p^ssies to do it themselves.

Soros doesn’t have an army to protect him. Neither does Gates, or any Rothschild, or Schwab, or any of the other demonic ghouls.

Put their names and faces in the public, and let the public save themselves.

It would take about 24 hours to locate all 20 or so of these self-absorbed super villains.

Those who were spotted out in public would do the Mussolini dance on the spot.

Those who were discovered in their ‘compounds’ or mansions would be surrounded and burned out.

It would be over in less than a week.

So there’s no excuse for any of this bull&^%#.

We’re like hostages who have Stockholm Syndrome, trying to come up with excuses to justify the actions of the criminals who took us hostage.

But that’s not how it works, not for Sovereign People who have God-given rights.

We the People should be holding the authorities accountable. The very LEAST they are obligated to do is INFORM the public as to WHAT in the HELL is going on.

And the only reason they wouldn’t is not because of some grand noble ‘saving us from ourselves’ BS.

The reason people in power hide things is always the same.

It’s because they screwed up, and they don’t want to be held accountable for it, so they bury it, cover it up, make sure the secret is never found out.

That might be par for the course in a lot of *&^%holes around the world.

It’s not par for the course in America.

Somebody’s gonna pay.

“Killing those 20 people would have been gamed out by the super computers. The outcome of that would be known. And it could be WORSE than what is currently happening.”

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That is an argument for war in perpetuity, because:

We are never told who the enemy is.

We cannot know how the war is going.

We can never know if or when the war is over.

We can never know who won.

War is the ultimate excuse to usurp power from the People.

These are all guaranteed (not speculative) results of a ‘secret war’.

These are just a few of the reasons why no such ‘secret war’ can ever be allowed to take place, because it will always be to the advantage of those in power to make sure the war never ends.

In order for a condition of war to exist, the entire premise, is that someone, somewhere, is engaging in hostile aggression toward you.

As a practical matter, it is practically impossible to engage in war against a nation, without that nation knowing who is attacking them.

In the current situation, the public knows who many of the most visible hostile aggressor are. The intelligence agencies and military know exactly who all the others are, and where they live.

The resolution to war is to surrender, reach a truce, or defeat the hostile aggressor.

I’m very partial to Door #3.

If you eliminate the hostile aggressor(s), by definition, war ends.

No matter how the computer games it out, eliminating the opponent is objective and the definition of victory.

When the hostile aggressor(s) are eliminated, there is no one left to DO anything worse than what is currently happening.

Unless you are thinking some kind of trans-dimensional time-warp sci-fi scenario, eliminating the enemy ends the war.

The enemy is known.

The enemy’s location can be ascertained.

The enemy has no credible nation-state level military defense, only private security.

The enemy can be easily defeated.

If our government is too corrupt to do their job, then individuals within our government, patriots, ‘whistle-blowers’, have a duty and obligation to inform the public about what the HELL is going on, along with the names and coordinates of the enemy.

The one thing our government never, EVER has the right to do, is engage in any secret unauthorized war.

They do it anyway, all the time.

The difference is that now they are doing it to US.

Their BOSSES.

And the lawful remedy to that is to cut their #*&^ing treasonous nuts off.

“I’ve advocated for years now that the solution is a national strike.”

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I’m all for it!

It would only be a first step, but that first step is critical.

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“If all the MAGA patriots just sat down for a month, they’d fix the mess.”

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I don’t know why they would. They have plenty of money, they have the military, they have access to all the supplies they would ever need, and air transport in and out of the capitol if necessary.

They have so much money they could fly to gay Paris every day for lunch, and twice on Sunday.

So they can literally afford, in every sense of the word, to wait us out, forever.

They won’t run out of anything, before we do. They won’t run out of anything, ever.

The same reason why strikes don’t work in France, or Brazil, or anywhere else they’re tried.

But it is still a critical step, because the People have to learn what doesn’t work, before they will be ready to try what does.

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“What would any of us do, faced with that choice?”

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The Constitution would require us to defend and protect the American People first, and we then have a moral imperative to help everyone else we can, once our own nation is secure.

The same ought to be true for every other nation, but many of them have people who murdered their way into power and now use force (including murder) to maintain power (otherwise known as kings and queens).

They don’t have any obligation to their subjects, besides a moral obligation, and morality has always been very difficult for mass murderers.

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“When I’ve posited this before, all I get from most people is “that can’t be true.” But I think it can. Would I sacrifice millions to save billions?”

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Does the Constitution provide for the option to sacrifice at least 220+ million Americans, in order to save billions of foreigners?

Does the gov’t, which was created to serve and protect We the People and our Republic, have lawful authority to sacrifice us, without our consent?

Would We the People ever consent to be sacrificed?

Any individual can make that decision for him or her SELF, if presented with that scenario.

But no representative of the People who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the Republic can ever make that decision for anyone else.

No government civil servant, up to an including the President, gets to sacrifice us.

His #1 job is to protect the Republic, not sacrifice it.

If some extraordinary situation existed where preserving and defending America meant the rest of the world was destroyed, POTUS *&^% well better choose America over the rest of the world.

Because at that point, that’s his ONLY job.

He was elected by us, to represent us, our country, our interests, our survival, and it has to be that way, every nation has to look out for its own survival.

If an elected leader turns his back on the people who elected him to represent them, and he chooses to sacrifice his own nation to save some other country instead, that’s not noble or good, it’s a complete and total betrayal of his own blood, his own family, his own nation and People.

Representative government precludes the possibility of anyone who represents us from sacrificing us for any hazy, sentimental ‘greater good’ Marxist BS.

A king who answers to no one might indulge his own dark fantasies and sacrifice his subjects in some such vile betrayal.

The man we elect to protect and defend us does not, cannot and never will have that right.

Not under any conceivable circumstances.

If any inconceivable circumstance should ever arise, e.g., space aliens threaten to destroy the world with a doomsday laser from space unless we all surrender to WEF, then our leader better trot himself out before the public and tell us the score, and let the People decide what to do about it.

Because that is OUR right.

NO ONE has the right to make that decision for us.

There is no conceivable circumstance where any leader has the right to sacrifice 220+ million of us.

Or even 1 of us.

That’s not his decision to make.

Because you can’t violate the rights of any person under the pretense of protecting the rights of everyone else.

By doing the former, the latter are not protected, they’re just next.

“Jeez, Scott, you know that if we were threatened by annihilation by aliens, and they told everybody, we wouldn’t just have an alien problem. We would annihilate ourselves.”

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I do not know that — in fact, based on my reply to your next point, it seems very unlikely.

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“The vast majority of people would panic, and utter chaos would ensue. This isn’t the movies, where some obscure good guys rise up from the masses, and everybody follows them.”

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Exactly. This is not the movies. In the movies, everybody panics.

In real life, the government just recently came right out and told the American People that we have UFOs flying around all over the place, we have downed craft, and in public testimony before Congress, the bodies recovered from these craft are of non-human origin.

And everybody yawned.

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“People would freak out. Look how people responded to something as innocuous as Covid. Many are still freaking out.”

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Even if that was true — which it doesn’t appear to be based on recent real life events — how would that give the gov’t any lawful authority to lie to We the People, or violate our Rights (or their duties and obligations) in even the slightest way?

It wouldn’t.

Like you said, it’s not a movie. There are procedures to follow to inform the public, whether it’s an attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese, or an eminent attack by Godzilla, or a threatened attack by Martians.

The Martians bit did cause a ruckus back in 1938 with Orson Welles doing the narrating on the radio, but we’ve seen that now, and we’re a little (not a lot, but a little) more sophisticated with regard to such things than people were in 1938.

After all, Roswell hadn’t even happened yet in 1938, not for another 9 years, after WWII was over.

Since then, the public has had over half a century to get acclimated to the idea of space aliens.

Just take a gander at this programming. We should be more comfortable with aliens than with a lot of our neighbors 😁

This is just a sample, not including hundreds (thousands?) of others, and many sequels of the better ones:

In 1951 we had The Day the Earth Stood Still.

In 1953 we had the color movie version of War of the Worlds.

In 1956 we had Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Star Trek (TV series, 1966-1968)

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)

Star Wars (1977)

Invasion of the Body Snatchers (remake, 1978)

Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979)

Alien (1979)

The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)

The Thing (1982)

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)

The Terminator (1984)

Aliens (a.k.a. Alien, part 2) (1986)

Predator (1987)

They Live (1988)

Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)

Independence Day (1996)

Men in Black (1997)

Starship Troopers (1997)

Contact (1997)

The Matrix (1999)

District 9 (2009)

Edge of Tomorrow (a.k.a. Live, Die, Repeat) (2014)

Arrival (2016)

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“This game you and I are playing is interesting, but ultimately fruitless, speculation. Because we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.”

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And one of the points I’m trying to make is that there can be no lawful excuse for WHY we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.

Not in our Constitutional Republic.

We have a RIGHT to know, and they have a duty and obligation to TELL us.