Dear KAG: 20231128 Open Thread

Report: Moderna Engaged in Covert Operations to Control Online Criticism of Vaccines

I’ll criticize it. 18 months after taking one, my mother died of a massive stroke. Everything that she suffered in the last year and a half of her life she claimed was due to that shot.

Asian Brothels That Serviced Military Officials and Politicians Kept “Impeccable Records” as Feds Prepare to Identify “Johns”

Not holding my breath.

Why Kari Lake Is Running for Senate AND Fighting the 2022 Stolen Election

The ‘Complexity’ of Idiocy

Until the 1970, the majority of the people were fit as a fiddle!

Troops Discharged Over COVID-19 Vaccine Refusal Sue US Government For Billions In Lost Wages

OpenAI Tried to Fire Altman Because He Was About to Wake Up the Monster

AI needs to die.

Shatterpoint

Badlands News Brief – November 27, 2023

James O’Keefe Put on ‘SSSS’ List for Extra Screening for Domestic Flights (VIDEO)

Harassment, plain and simple.

Two more Fox News mega-stars morph into “Chris Wallace 2.0” and POUNCE…

They actually think they are relevant.

NewsGuard Is Selling Its Government-Funded Censorship Tool To Private Companies

Tweet hopper:

Well, somebody needs to.

Dr. Lee Merrick said this sometime back.

Meme & Fun hopper:

American?

Something to remember, always.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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LUKE 21:5-11

5And as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings, he said, 6“As for these things which you see, the days will come when there shall not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” 7And they asked him, “Teacher, when will this be, and what will be the sign when this is about to take place?” 8And he said, “Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name, saying, `I am he!’ and, `The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them. 9And when you hear of wars and tumults, do not be terrified; for this must first take place, but the end will not be at once.” 10Then he said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; 11there will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

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Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

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cthulhu

Just a quick pause before running off to chase links….

Thank you, De Pat!!!

TheseTruths

Golfing at this hour…🤔😅

cthulhu

It’s how Stevie Wonder wins golf games….

TheseTruths

*golf clap* 👏😅

cthulhu

For those who want context, a guy runs into Stevie Wonder at a golf club, finds out he likes golf — although he has his caddy stand behind the hole and go “beep, beep, beep”. The guy asks about Wonder’s handicap — and to the guy’s utter amazement, it is nearly the same as his own. Challenges him to 18 holes.

Wonder says, “well, it’s just a friendly game — so shall we say $3,000 a hole? We’ll just tell the course guys it’s at my usual tee time.”

They shake on it, with plenty of witnesses, and Wonder says, “ok, we’ll meet at the first tee at midnight.”

TheseTruths

Catturd:

Nobody wants to give money to a party that stabs their voters in the back – every single time – on every single issue.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Looks like an opportunity to overturn the membership of the RNC with MAGA.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

One would think so but remember last time most of the state chairs and alternates were thouroughly RINO and THAT is what has to change. They won’t give a flying rip, they’ll just re-elect RINO McDaniel.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. That’s why THEY need to be replaced!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I don’t know why I didn’t notice those last couple of paragraphs.

Yes, he’s talking about the RNC membership!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I still do have concerns that their system is sufficiently corrupted and obfuscated, to the point of making the RINO establishment majority permanent, but still – maybe there’s a chance.

(Insert meme from Dumb & Dumber here)

TradeBait2

Total rebuild or die. Timing is everything, but it sure looks like that timing needs to be now.

kalbokalbs

IF we only had decades.

Me. Shred RNC. Then pulverize whatever is left.

Barb Meier

Me. I’d prefer a firehose to a shredder.

Jack Smith is a THUG

hmmmmmmmmmm…what can it be that needs to change? how about the person who can’t seem to support the party, but looks like she’s fixing to party with the party’s $$

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Brave and Free

Looks like she’s been to the desert table a few to many times.

Jack Smith is a THUG

she had weight loss surgery–that’s not cheap

kalbokalbs

RNC picked up the tab for weight loss surgery, flowers, massages…

Aubergine

All that money, and she’s still butt-ugly.

Can’t fix soul corruption’s effect on the face, no matter what you try.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent, excellent cartoon! Branco gets it!!!

Between Branco and Garrison, there is no escape for the left!!!

scott467

It’s true, just like evidence (and logic, and reason) has nothing to do with persuading or convincing people of anything, whether in a courtroom or anywhere else.

If it did, nobody would have worn a mask, no one would have taken the clot-shot, nobody would believe in Glo-Bull Warming, etc., etc., etc.

It’s a serious problem.

One that’s not going to be fixed.

singingsoul1

The legal system once they make a decision to convict it is not easy reversed even if a person is innocent.

Alison

“We’re gonna cut that tree down!”

“No you’re not!”

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

i’m not sure that is “so American” these days, but it is damn funny anyway.

kalbokalbs

Hilarious by me. Needs to happen more often.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Check this out. CHEATERS UNION stuff.

TheseTruths

I consider it child abuse and would advocate for jail time.

singingsoul1

They have done this from the beginning.
When the union was formed one of my kids was in third grade. The teacher told the kids for the parents to demonstrate with teachers to be unionized. This woman was the worse teacher my kids had she was totally incompetent.

Aubergine

AMEN!

I’ll tell you this much, if they pulled that shit with one of my grandkids, they would rue the friggin’ day!

What this is is psychological abuse. Children who are Christian are taught this is wrong, and they are under assault. We’d better stand for them, or we will surely answer for it one day.

And yes, I know it isn’t only Christian children who are taught that. But we have Constitutionally guaranteed religious rights in this country, and we can use that to fight against this kind of crap.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Just sayin’……

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

MOAR….

kalbokalbs

Part of the 7%…Never Admit The Obvious.

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Linda

I see that every day in my cancer group. There are many young people who suddenly out of the blue have Stage 4 pancreatic cancer, and Stage 4 colon cancer, and Stage 4 metastatic breast cancer, and on and on. There was even a young pregnant mother who was told by her doctor she needed to abort her child so they could do radiation. It’s just really, really heartbreaking.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, I’m so sorry to hear that. We have GOT to stop these damn shots.

scott467

“We have GOT to stop these damn shots.”

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How?

Things like logical argument, reason, facts, evidence, statistics, etc., are practically irrelevant with regard to influencing or changing human behavior.

It’s true here just like everywhere else.

I think it was about a month ago that the subject of Latin Mass was brought up. I posted the entire passage from God’s Word showing definitively that using a language that no one understands during worship is not to be done.

Not one single person argued the point after the passage was posted. For the usual reason, i.e., it’s really hard to beat God’s Word in an argument, when it’s right there in black and white and staring you in the face.

So was that the end of it?

Was anyone’s mind changed?

Not at all, not even in the slightest.

Just a couple days ago, the subject was raised again, and it was as if the previous discussion never took place.

The WORD OF GOD doesn’t matter, it didn’t change anyone’s viewpoint.

And if the Word of God doesn’t make any difference to people, then what chance do the words of men have?

None.

The answer is none.

We’re no different in that regard from all the people we mock.

We’re just like them.

We believe whatever we want to believe, and we don’t care what the truth is, we don’t care what the evidence says, we don’t care about rational argument, none of it. We just use those things as props to support what we already believe, or what we want to believe.

And if these things don’t mean anything to us, what are the chances they will mean anything to some Leftard? 😂

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TheseTruths

I think it was about a month ago that the subject of Latin Mass was brought up. I posted the entire passage from God’s Word showing definitively that using a language that no one understands during worship is not to be done.

Not one single person argued the point after the passage was posted.

There are multiple reasons that I can think of for this. One that I will not delve into is that there are other ways to look at the situation than the one you present, even though it seems clear from things you’ve said that you believe yours is the only correct way by which to judge such matters. I say that without ill will or rancor; just being factual.

The WORD OF GOD doesn’t matter, it didn’t change anyone’s viewpoint.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

The subject of oral tradition is very deep, and I’m quite sure that discussing it in a forum like this would not change your mind either. So “we believe whatever we want to believe, and we don’t care what the truth is, we don’t care what the evidence says, we don’t care about rational argument, none of it” also applies to your own beliefs.

Another reason people might not have entered into that discussion is that they don’t want to get into debates about religion here. I certainly don’t. From what I’ve seen in my own experience, and from what a number of people have said here, it’s clear that there are a lot of hurting people who have had negative experiences due to the sinfulness of mankind. Adding fuel to that fire is not something I want to do, nor do I want to bring that kind of stress and strife here. Each person will find their own way and, for some, their own path to healing and faith. Protracted discussions about religious practices provide obstacles to that process. Sometimes people just need to step back and find peace.

Isaiah 26:3
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

scott467

“There are multiple reasons that I can think of for this. One that I will not delve into is that there are other ways to look at the situation than the one you present, even though it seems clear from things you’ve said that you believe yours is the only correct way by which to judge such matters.”

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That’s the opposite of what I say, repeatedly. It doesn’t matter at all what I think, I have no power or authority, I’m nobody.

But it does matter what God says, at least to those who self-identify as people who purport to follow Him.

So you tell me what the passage says. Can you twist this into God’s approval of speaking in a foreign tongue that the hearers don’t understand?

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“Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. [2] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. [3] But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. [4] He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

[5] I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. [6] Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? [7] And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped? [8] For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

[9] So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. [10] There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. [11] Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me. [12] Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

[13] Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. [14] For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. [15] What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. [16] Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?

[17] For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. [18] I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: [19] Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.” (1 Corinthians 14:1-19, KJV, boldface emphasis mine)
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Apparently a Latin mass is generally about an hour long, and apparently a typical speaking voice is about 130 words per minute, which works out to about 7,800 words.

So not quite the 10,000 mark, but certainly in the ballpark.

But it doesn’t matter what I think about it (except to me, of course), what matters is what you think about it.

Because on Judgment Day, if the Lord asks you to explain why you argued for a Latin Mass, you’re the one who is going to have to give an answer, not me.

There’s a lot less pressure here than there will be there. So pretend like this is a dress rehearsal, and give it your best shot.

TheseTruths

What part of “I don’t want to get into debates about religion here” was not clear?

scott467

That’s how it always is, isn’t it?

Aubergine

Not for me!

Barb Meier

For me, this is a moot point. I only speak English and I don’t attend foreign-language speaking services where I might not understand the Word of God. There is a lot going on in the world right now, so I leave subjects like this one to people who need/want to discuss it.

I don’t.

Aubergine

Well, here I come again, I guess.

“For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.”

Well, sorry, but Latin is not an “unknown tongue,” just because you don’t know it. It is a language one can learn; my DH has been learning Latin for years. “Some man” understands Latin.

If you are in a church where you don’t know the language and you are uncomfortable, find another church.

You probably don’t speak Swahili. If you were at a church where that language was being spoken, would you think the service invalid?

An “unknown tongue” in the Biblical sense is not an Earthly language. If you’ve ever been in the presence of one actually “speaking in tongues” you would know, you are not in the presence of something of this Earth.

This is where the confusion lies.

pgroup2

I am constantly amazed at how many obscure but critical points you know.

Absolutely correct that Paul disapproved of the ‘speaking in tongues’ displays that can be seen even today in some churches of the black persuasion.

To me, they resembled a bunch of females carrying on as if they were possessed. They called it possessed by the Holy Spirit but I knew it wasn’t biblical, thanks to these verses.

Aubergine

Lol. I call myself a boundless font of mostly useless knowledge. But some things come in handy. I was steeped in the Bible early on. When I finally found my way back to church, I found that a lot of my early exposure had stuck.

scott467

“Another reason people might not have entered into that discussion is that they don’t want to get into debates about religion here. I certainly don’t.”

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Does truth matter?

It’s a ‘yea’ or ‘nay’ question.

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“From what I’ve seen in my own experience, and from what a number of people have said here, it’s clear that there are a lot of hurting people who have had negative experiences due to the sinfulness of mankind. Adding fuel to that fire is not something I want to do, nor do I want to bring that kind of stress and strife here. Each person will find their own way and, for some, their own path to healing and faith. Protracted discussions about religious practices provide obstacles to that process. Sometimes people just need to step back and find peace.”

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Translation: I’m okay, you’re okay, we’ll all get to heaven our own way.

If you fight for the plain truth of God’s Word, you’re the bad guy, and the world will hate you, because the world hates truth, and the world certainly hates God.

But if you fight for everyone to do what thou wilt, you’re the good guy, a friend of the world.

Has it not always been so?

TheseTruths

Translation: I’m okay, you’re okay, we’ll all get to heaven our own way.

That is not what I said, and not what I meant. Your deliberate misinterpretation of what I’ve said is telling. It is one of the many reasons why I’m not going to discuss theological matters here.

Aubergine

I just can’t my-way-or-the-highway, so I’m going to clap back at him every time.

I apologize for the religious arguing. I don’t expect or even want everyone to read it.

I like Scott in many ways, but this attitude just sets me right off.

TheseTruths

No need to apologize! I only speak for myself when I say that I’m not going to get into it. I knew exactly what would happen, and to a large extent what would be said and how my own words would be viewed exclusively through a very narrow prism to the point where they would be distorted to fit within it. False words and concepts were even attributed to me. Not a polite, “It looks as if you’re saying this. Is that what you meant?” No, just assumptions about what I said, with words being placed in my mouth. That leads to endless back and forth about “that’s not what I said or meant” and more twisting and attempts to convince, often based on assumptions and mistaken ideas that would have to be refuted in order to have an honest discussion, so I’m not engaging in it. If you want to take it on, have at it. 🙂

Aubergine

At this point, I’m pretty battle-hardened, lol!

Barb Meier

I react badly to what Scott was writing because of my life experiences. It comes across to me like it is a pushy attempt to control others. I had an ex who would do this rarely. It never turned out well, even (or perhaps especially) if I relented and agreed to “obey” his demand of the moment. With the ex, it felt like it was just suddenly all important for him to be right, to prove me wrong, and moreover, to get me to concede. If I did concede and do what he demanded in spite of my own judgment, bad things happened. I never said “I told you so.” after one of these events. I doubt that Scott sees his own statements in that light. It is just how I react to this kind of kerfuffle.

Aubergine

See, it’s for people like you that I respond.

My faith, such as it is, requires me to sew seeds for Jesus. And the seed is His Word. Nothing is required of imperfect me, just attempting to understand what the Bible says, and the willingness to share it.

The forceful push of a misunderstanding of what the Word says ran me out of church not once, but twice in my life. No one should feel like something is being forced on them. It’s self-evident that Scripture can be seen in many lights and read in different ways, otherwise all churches would be the same.

In this case, however, the Scripture being quoted is very clear, it’s the interpretation that is demonstrably wrong. Latin is not an “unknown” tongue, as the Scriptures are referring to. It’s just that Scott doesn’t know Latin. It’s unknown to him. But I doubt he speaks Mandarin Chinese or Urdu, either.

I thought it was important enough to point out.

Barb Meier

Yes, thank you for explaining your knowledge of the Bible’s meaning, Aubergine! It helps all of us who are not as familiar. It’s a group chat and impacts all readers even those who just skim past it trying to avoid the kerfuffle. The only encounter I’ve had with Latin was that my cousin married and converted to Catholicism. His sister became a nun. At their wedding my cousin and her hubby had a Latin mass. I thought it was beautiful though I did not know what the words meant. I certainly got the sense of it and was very glad to be there.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As a side note, it almost certainly wasn’t pronounced the way someone like Julius Caesar would have pronounced it. (And OBTW he was the “pontifex maximus” at least once in his life…that’s now a title given to the pope.)

The famous Julius Caesar quote “veni, vidi, vici” (I came, I saw, I conquered) is a case in point. Unless I am greatly mistaken, the church would pronounce it “venny, veedy, veechee”. Linguists however have analyzed hints in anchient texts and determened the Latin V was probably pronounced like a W, and the C is probably like a K. So we get, “Wenny, weedy, weeky”

Aubergine

Wenny, weedy, weeky doesn’t exactly have the same ring to it, does it? Lol.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I agree. Were I not a stickler for authenticity I’d go with the Church pronunciation.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Italian might be pronounced that way now, but that’s no guarantee it (or its ancestor Latin) was pronounced the same way.

English pronunciation has changed greatly (especially the vowels) and Greek pronunciation has changed markedly too.

There are clues to indicate the same thing happened to Latin; manuscripts that describe pronunciations makes it clear it has changed.

Actually linguists continue to argue over Proto Indo European, particularly the vowel sounds. We’re dealing with an additional difficulty there, because PIE was never written down–we’re having to take an educated stab based on the sounds in PIE’s descendant languages and the rules that seem to govern sound changes. (a t might become a d, it’s unlikely to become a k). On the other hand, the lack of writing is a bonus, because we can assign standard symbols to our reconstructions. One doesn’t have to wonder if they should read it according to (say) the Polish spelling conventions.

Looking at wikipedia (which probably hasn’t been polluted on this subject) the vowel set doesn’t appear to include /i/ or /u/ (as pronounced in Italian) but there are long and short e and o (and here long literally means long, not a shift to another sound like it does in English). The only fricatives are s and three sounds similar to h in being from the back of the throat, but they don’t know exactly what they are. No v, f, th, z, etc.

There are phonemic distinctions between aspirated and non-aspirated stops (something it has in common with many of the descendant languages in India, but we do NOT have in most European languages), as well as between voiced and unvoiced stops (as in most European languages).

Though many of the sounds are in common, many are not and I doubt it would sound very much like Latin (either pronunciation) at all.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Modern Spanish, and French, and Italian, and even Romanian (plus all dialects thereof) all developed from Latin. Yet they are mutually incomprehensible. They are different languages with different pronunciations.

Pronunciations *change* and it has been two thousand years.

cthulhu

They’re not completely incomprehensible. You can use Spanish in Portugal or Italy and get by — you just sound weird.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

But then some of the Italian “dialects” probably ought to be considered separate languages.

Modern standard Italian is basically the Florentine variety (with some changes). I knew people whose parents were from different parts of italy; the only common ground they had was standard Italian, and that’s what their kids learned. The kids were never able to make heads or tails of Sicilliano or other dialects when they were exposed to them.

Over in Scandinavia, Danish/Norwegian/Swedish really ought to be considered dialects, not separate languages because they are mutually intelligible. They’re considered separate languages usually simply because they are different countries. Icelandic is very different though…and it happens to be the least changed from the old language; in essence they still speak Viking there.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes, because the Greeks influenced the culture via their colonies in southern Italy and of course once Greece was conquered educated Romans largely immersed themselves in Greek culture.

A lot of our words are Latin and Greek.

I’m not sure how any of this is relevant to whatever point you’re trying to make.

Happy go lucky

That’s how I was taught; v pronounced as w and c is always hard

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That is, as near as we can reconstruct, the way it was pronounced back then.

Certain people’s assertions to the contrary notwithstanding.

Aubergine

🙂

barkerjim

In my understanding, speaking in “tongues” was never just some other earthly language, but some uncontrolled outburst.

Barb Meier

For a time, my brother and SIL went from wild childs to Holiness because they felt it would save their marriage. I never attended, but do some Holiness church people speak in tongues? I could ask my brother about it. We enjoy chatting and I don’t think he would freak if I asked. For years now, they have gone to the Baptist Church which is much more like Methodist where my brother and I were raised.

Happy go lucky

Yes, barb, that’s been my experience visiting holiness churches

Barb Meier

Thank you, Hsppy!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I recall reading somewhere that the tongue-speaker never actually uses sounds not in their own native language.

Since very few languages do NOT have sounds that aren’t present in English, that indicates to me they’re not actually speaking in some bona-fide foreign tong but rather just babbling.

Aubergine

I have heard, and know others who have heard, speaking in tongues that is clearly not any human language. It is weird, sibilant, almost hissing. It made me very uncomfortable to hear it. Others I know say the same.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

My minor experience with it was someone babbling in a rhythm that reminded me (at the time) of some language from Africa or the Middle East. But there were literally no strange sounds in it, just fewer sounds than English (which tends to have more fricatives and vowel sounds than average, but there are languages that wipe the floor with us as far as size of the phonemic inventory goes).

Aubergine

It comes from Acts chapter 2:

When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all [a]with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 Then there appeared to them [b]divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
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5 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. 6 And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. 7 Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, “Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? 8 And how is it that we hear, each in our own [c]language in which we were born? 9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretans and [d]Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.” 12 So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “Whatever could this mean?”

13 Others mocking said, “They are full of new wine.”

According to Strong’s Concordance, the word for tongues in the original Greek, Γλώσσα, glossa (pronounced gloce-sah’) means “the tongue;” by implication a language (specifically one not acquired naturally).

But it is of note that the hearers heard their native language, no matter what came from the mouth of the speakers.

In the Pentecostal churches of the South, it is pretty common for someone to speak in a “tongue” that is not a known language. As long as someone present “understands,” this is permitted. I must admit it made me very uncomfortable when I experienced it.

Aubergine

Well, I missed the Latin Mass argument somehow. You know I would have waded in if I had seen it!

Barb Meier

I always believed that a malfunctioning mammogram machine caused my mom to get breast cancer later. I did not count how long between the exam and the cancer took place. Mom said they left her connected to the machine and the technician left the room for perhaps 20 minutes. Due to my mom’s experience, I have never had a mammogram and never will. Other than mom’s experience, breast cancer does not run in our family.

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Jack Smith is a THUG

once my mom started to get mammograms, she would get a call from her doc telling her she saw some suspicious areas and my mom would worry and be upset for weeks before they did a ultra sound or whatever and determined it was dense breast tissue they were seeing not lumps or tumors. this went on for years! finally she switched docs and after the first suspicious report and subsequent findings of dense tissue, he inserted markers under her skin that could be seen in the tests so she didn’t have to worry herself constantly.
lost all faith in docs at that point and never got a mammogram myself

Barb Meier

Pat, I am glad your mom switched docs. Worry like that can make us physically ill. Each of us needs to get informed like Linda did before deciding med stuff. She was such a great example that I wish everyone could learn from.

Jack Smith is a THUG

Linda is a wonderful example! strong, and informed!

my mom would be a complete wreck for weeks till a new test was scheduled and the results in.
I commend the second doctor for alleviating the problem the first time he discovered it. but why didn’t her first doctor realize the solution after the second time it happened, let alone the third, fourth or fifth time?

Linda

As far as being informed, I had a LOT of help from the Q Tree about not trusting doctors until I had all the facts. And our discussions about ivermectin and fenbendazole, both huge parts of my protocol.

I really feel for what your mom went through. I have dense breast tissue also. But after they first found what they thought might be a problem, they sent me over to get an ultrasound. I really think they should do all breast exams with ultrasound, not mammograms. We don’t need all that radiation, especially if we do have cancer.

Jack Smith is a THUG

my doctor asked me once why i was reluctant to get a mammogram and i told him the story of my mom. he said but that’s her–what makes you think it applies to you. I said I grew these (pointing at my chest) when i was 9. every time i have lost weight, they have never once decreased in size. I lost 35 pounds a few years ago–didn’t go down a bra size at all. his eyebrows went up. it’s dense tissue. he agreed.

TheseTruths

Thermography is an alternative to mammograms. Some here might know more about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThermographyThermography – Wikipedia

Thermal images, or thermograms, are actually visual displays of the amount of infrared energy emitted, transmitted, and reflected by an object. Because there …

https://www.breastcancer.org/screening-testing/thermographyThermography – Breastcancer.org

Jul 27, 2022  Thermography, also called thermal imaging, uses a special camera to measure the temperature of the skin on the breast’s surface.

https://www.thermalimagingcenters.com/thermography/What is Thermography? – Thermal Imaging Centers of America

Thermography measures temperature variations using sophisticated and sensitive high tech equipment. These changes in the body’s temperature can indicate disease …

https://www.healthline.com/health/breast-cancer/thermographyThermography: Procedure, Risks, Cost, and More – Healthline

Possible side effects and risks. Thermography is a noninvasive test that uses a camera to take images of your breasts. There is no radiation exposure, no …

https://medthermography.com/thermography/what-is-it/What Is Thermography | Thermal Imaging Scans Albany NY

Medical Thermography is a noninvasive thermo imaging scan that provides a color coded image of your health. Medical Thermography Body Scans are a painless …

https://www.thethermographycenter.com/Thermography – No Radiation, Natural Breast Screening …

Provides no-radiation, preventive, natural and thermal breast screening for women who desire thermography as an alternative to mammograms.

Linda

I’ve heard that thermography is a great way to do breast exams. No radiation is a huge plus. The problem is finding somewhere to get it done. I’ve also found out that there is a company called HerScan that does breast ultrasound exams all over the country for a cost less than $300. They have a site where you can check to see when they’re in your area and schedule an exam. Ultrasound is a much less intrusive way to examine a person for cancer.

Happy go lucky

Wow thanks for the tip. I always get a call about needing a follow up ultrasound since we got the 3D imaging locally. I really like my radiologist and the techs, and I wish everyone were as lucky.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

By the way, how are you doing? Hoping and praying that you’re continuing to improve!

Jack Smith is a THUG

Amen.
me too!

Linda

Thank you, Pat. Your prayers are much appreciated.

Linda

I’m doing pretty well, Wolf. I’m not back to normal yet, but I’m getting there. I’m a little frustrated at the things I can’t do yet. I have leaves all over the place in my front yard I can’t go out and rake up yet, and my back yard is a mess from the last storm. And my house needs a good vacuuming. But I’ll get there and get it done once I’m finished healing. At least I’ve been able to get out and walk my dog every day. I’ve needed the exercise. I see my surgeon again on the 5th. Hopefully she can give me some insight about the numbness in my arm and I can get back to normal.

TradeBait2

Thanks for updating us. Prayers continue.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We’re praying for your healing!!!

Barb Meier

If you can, it would be okay to get someone to do a fall cleanup of your leaves. I started doing that once I moved to the mountain. I had visions of me holding onto the handles of the mower while it flies down the mountain with me attached, feet flying out behind or backing it out of the store room close to a steep ravine and going backwards down the ravine. LOL

Linda

Yikes! Don’t do that, Barb. Yes, I may just break down and get someone else to do it. But I actually like doing those things, so I’ve been putting it off.

Barb Meier

I know it is good to keep doing all we enjoy but this fall, you’re making sure you heal fully. You can always do it again next fall and then, there will be snow to shovel soon too. I’m still shoveling snow with a shovel here. I just do it in shorter stints and take breaks to warm up after I shovel for about 5 or 10 minutes. It doesn’t sound like much but the snow plows push up mounds by the entry that have salt in them so that snow is pretty heavy.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

EVEN MOAR…..

kalbokalbs

Hope his messages get pushed out, to the point of viral.

Barb Meier

I am glad the doc was able to share the info. It must be hard for them after having gov push them to sell people on the shots.

kalbokalbs

“New patient…” has to know, Jab done it.

GW MD, could say, Jab done it.

Both won’t Admit Reality…Jabs done it…

Needs To Be Said Allowed – Jabs Injure, Handicap AND Kill..

TheseTruths

GW MD, could say, Jab done it.

As I read that, I was thinking why didn’t he ask “the question”? Why not try to find out if those people had been vaxed? And as you say, then spread the word.

Barb Meier

That is what we would expect a doctor or scientist to do. That it doesn’t happen among more MDs says this is politics, not science.

PAVACA

WOLF MOON and all—

Yours Truly has a new blog post scheduled for early tomorrow morning regarding TURBO-CANCER and the COVID-19 “vaccines.”
Thank you!

Barb Meier

PAVACA, I look forward to reading this when it posts. Thank you!!!

Aubergine

Response moved to where it was meant to go!

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Barb Meier

Wow, thank you! Adding bookmarks for these.

Aubergine

🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good!!!

Aubergine

This Daily Skeptic article is about turbo cancer and IgG4:

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/11/27/new-evidence-that-covid-vaccines-may-promote-hyperprogressive-cancers/

If IgG4 is causing the turbo cancers, I ask myself, how do we turn it off? There may be an answer. Glucocorticoids like prednisone or budesonide:

https://www.healthline.com/health/glucocorticoids#drug-list

Well, I always look for what I can get OTC or some other way without a doctor, and guess what? I remembered that budesonide can be had OTC:

https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-24-hour-budesonide-nasal-spray/ID=prod6328689-product?ext=gooFY23_GOO_RET_RETAILDEMANDGEN_Performance%2BMax%2B-%2BHealth%2BCare_REV_SRC_PMAX_PMAX_NA_PMAX_ENG__pla_online&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAvJarBhA1EiwAGgZl0B8GfaV_kHQpKeCHtip9UT4CFR5f6rD8htCoftDlkrcXlKHAmiQJ5hoC11YQAvD_BwE

So, if we know someone who had the clot-shots, it might be well to encourage them to get some and use it.

Glucocorticoids shouldn’t be taken long-term without a doctor’s supervision, but are generally safe for shorter-term use. There is info here on duration and side-effects:

https://www.drugs.com/drug-class/glucocorticoids.html

I would feel ok about using the OTC budesonide as directed. It is mild enough to be readily available, so there shouldn’t be as many issues with it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HOW DARE YOU!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THIS is an ad on X – and it’s some of the BEST opposition research I’ve ever seen. These people have linked Obama to the Trump indictments. WOW.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

As if there was any doubt that Hobo Judge Arthur Engoron’s Principal Law Clerk Allison Greenfield is a radical corrupt Democrat hack, Judicial Protest has connected the dots. Watch as Manhattan Borough President Mark Levine essentially promises Allison Greenfield a judgeship as he rails against Trump and his supporters with Allison Greenfield in the front row cheering Levine on at a Democrat rally while the #TrumpCivilFraud case was pending.

Allison Greenfield is on the take and is being bribed by the Democrat mafia in New York, purposefully steering Hobo Judge Engoron against Trump on behalf of the Democrats in exchange for a judgeship after the trial concludes.

Allison Greenfield has committed over 100 ethical violations and counting. She should never hold a position of public trust and must be immediately fired. Allison Greenfield should be disbarred!

pgroup2

We will never defeat the scum swamp until we have the guts to do battle like they do. Not using their tactics but using the same amount of intensity.

It’s hard to imagine anything more brazen than this.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The JAB has come for Stephen COAL-BEAR, it would seem, but just for a snack, not for the main course…..

TheseTruths

I hadn’t paid any attention to appendicitis because I’ve seen so much more about the conditions that have more serious consequences. Very interesting that Mr. Vax Scene came down with it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If you go to that X post, there are a bunch of science arguments both ways, but I’m with the cautious crowd on this one. NO JAB, thank you very kindly.

kalbokalbs

Insights or rumors on charge(s)?

scott467

“Two more Fox News mega-stars morph into “Chris Wallace 2.0” and POUNCE… ”

______________

Bratty Bretty Baier has been an outed stooge since the 2016 presidential debate, when he and Me-Again Kelly and Chrissy Wallace openly and obviously tried to sabotage DJT’s campaign with their juvenile ‘gotcha questions’, reserved only for him.

Though DJT destroyed them anyway 😂

Fraud News had the opportunity, for the first time in my life, to show the world what an actual debate, fairly moderated, looked like.

And instead, they blew it, right out of the gate and for the rest of the evening, they were actually worse than MSLSD would have been.

Total humiliation and embarrassment for the Fraud Squad.

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pgroup2

BTW, it’s Prissy Wallace.

TheseTruths

I don’t know whether this has been reported here, but this BLM J6 guy was convicted on all counts.

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https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-far-left-blm-activist-john-sullivan-convicted-on-all-charges-in-jan-6-case

The story is from November 16.

Infamous Black Lives Matter activist John Earle Sullivan has been found guilty on all counts for his role in the January 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Sullivan, 29, of Utah, has been officially charged on seven counts: Obstruction of an Official Proceeding; Civil Disorder; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building; Aiding and Abetting, per the Department of Justice.

U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth has ordered Sullivan to be placed into custody until his sentencing date, per NBC.

Sullivan, a prominent Black Lives Matter activist who self-proclaimed to be a journalist on Jan. 6, recorded one of the most infamous videos from inside the U.S. Capitol on that day. The video showed the shooting death of military Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt at the hands of U.S. Capitol police officer Michael Byrd.

Sullivan sold the rights to several of his videos to multiple media outlets for tens of thousands of dollars. Both CNN and NBC paid Sullivan $35,000 for the video of Babbitt. Sullivan also received $5,000 from Left/Right Productions and $2,500 from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

During court testimony, Sullivan, who is the founder of Utah-based extremist group Insurgence USA, maintained that he had embedded himself among the pro-Trump crowd to record the January breach of the Capitol building. However, the court didn’t buy his testimony.

Prosecutors submitted videos into evidence that showed Sullivan intentionally inciting and encouraging violence within the crowd.

“I was only observing,” Sullivan said in his trial testimony. “I followed the crowd. I’m there to document.”

Sullivan’s testimony was followed up by prosecutors who played multiple videos of Sullivan urging on the mob which included a self-declaration of wanting to make “Trump supporters f-ck sh-t up.”

“I’m gonna side with anyone who is ready to rip this sh-t down,” Sullivan said in one video shared by prosecutors. “I brought my megaphone to instigate sh-t,” he said in another video.

In addition, Sullivan can be heard saying on video, “We did this together. F-ck yeah! We are all a part of this history” and “Let’s burn this sh-t down”…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good. ANTIFA and BLM finally get a kick in the ass.

cthulhu

Gives him a great opportunity to roll on those who put him up to it.

pgroup2

This is part of an insurance policy for the architects of J6. Otherwise he would have been in the gulag as long as the others have been.

Four months in Club Fed – is my prediction.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

GREAT point. Let’s watch what happens to him IN REALITY.

If there was anybody who should have gotten a “sedition” or “conspiracy” charge, it was this guy – and yet…. NAH. He’s safe.

para59r

Saw that when it came out. Many in the replies thought the Dems were casting about for a sacrifice to appease the truth tellers and chose him. That it took so long for this to happen is telling. I could be wrong but I don’t believe was a subject of the J6 witch hunt either which is also telling. pgroup is likely correct, wrist slap and they’ll move on.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. He was one of the most obvious instigators from the left. They had to do something for cover, and they’re doing it.

Barb Meier

He’s got MK Ultra eyes.

Jack Smith is a THUG

thanks for the earworm…
now I’m hearing Bette Davis eyes…
LOL

Barb Meier

Aim to help, happy to please.   :wpds_lol: 

Jack Smith is a THUG

LOL
I can count on you Barb!

Cuppa Covfefe

Then again, there’s “Colonel Sanders’ Thighs”… 🙂  🐓 

TheseTruths
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Community notes AGAIN making trouble for the left…..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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TheseTruths

The boy has freedom of speech, which also includes expression. If he had worn full black face, I don’t see how that would be the NFL’s business. Black face can refer to coal miners, chimney sweeps, and other people and situations than race. Since black is one of his team’s colors, he could have painted his entire face black to complement the red he wore. Karens need to get a life.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great points – always forgotten. Interesting.

Robert Baker

Leave the boy alone. He is just a Chiefs fan. Soon enough they will accuse him of cultural appropriation for the headdress. I have long since lost patience with these serial haters.

Barb Meier

Perhaps we need to start making sure the deceitful accuser’s face is shown in the replies and gather background info on them.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It is only a matter of time before the “community notes” gets used by the Left to spread lies for the narrative.

TheseTruths

BREAKING: Lawless Obama Judge Chatkin Denies Trump Request to Subpoena Jan 6 Committee Material That WENT MISSING – Chutkan Will Not Allow Access to These Lost Documents!

Last week Trump’s team requested several documents related to Jan. 6. The documents provided to the Trump team were redacted. What lawlessness!

They’re going after the US president and these communists won’t even let him defend himself!

Where is the outrage?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Communism sucks, and it’s extra ugly when it comes from our fellow Americans.

singingsoul1

Amen

singingsoul1

They are communists what else do we expect from them. This is only the beginning. People think “they are not coming for me” but they will and they will be sorry to have allowed this injustice. Karma is always on the waiting.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ENJOY YOUR LACK OF MEAN TWEETS YOUNG LADY!!!

TheseTruths

To the young lady:
Did you vote in 2020 and 2022? If so, for whom did you vote? What are their policies that are affecting your financial life? Are you going to start looking at the bigger picture and the consequences of leftist policies? Will you not follow the crowd, think for yourself, and vote accordingly — even if you have been told to hate the person or people who would do the country, and you, the most good?

kalbokalbs

Babylon Bee material.

cthulhu

The perils of AI —

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/11/27/sports-illustrated-published-ai-generated-articles-under-fake-names-n595146

If they can do that to Sports Illustrated, they could do it to Teen Vogue!

cthulhu
para59r

Thanks. Let them know you passed it on here and extended our well wishes and prayers.

cthulhu

Those guys…..

Barb Meier

Interesting. I don’t keep track of musicians, but of course have heard of Dire Straits. Glad the song’s lyrics displayed so I could think about what he was singing. I looked up Mark Knopfler on DuckDuckGo and found his site. There, it had a link to an upcoming Christie’s auction of 150 of his guitars. Christies has a limited edition catalog of the guitars that people can pre-order.

https://www.christies.com/en/events/the-mark-knopfler-guitar-collection/what-is-on

cthulhu

The album “Shangri-La” was recorded at Shangri-La Studios in Malibu. Each song is based on real people, but not necessarily in an obvious way.

pgroup2

150 guitars???

That is a stunning number.  😮 

Barb Meier

I went back and checked. It is only 120 guitars and amps. Sorry for my mistake. Still a big number. I think I saw 50-year and misremembered. Let me just quote what Christie’s says.

Comprising more than 120 guitars and amps, the collection spans the 50-year career of one of the world’s most influential musicians and chronicles the diverse array of guitars Knopfler has used to write, record and perform an extensive catalogue of compositions for Dire Straits, as well as numerous successful solo albums and film soundtracks. Renowned for his distinct and virtuoso finger-picking style, Mark chose each instrument for its individual sound and tone, assembling a wide-ranging archive that includes iconic and world-famous names such as Gibson, Fender and Martin alongside custom-built models by Rudy Pensa and John Suhr, and bespoke examples crafted by luthiers from across the globe.

Twenty-five percent of the total hammer price will be divided equally and donated to The British Red Cross, Tusk and Brave Hearts of the North East.”

pgroup2

So he qualifies as a true guitar fanatic, and should get a prize for being the Biggest Guitar Maniac [if one existed, of course].

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, I’m quite sure there’s a Biggest Guitar Maniac.

😀

cthulhu

I found this more interesting than usual…..though a bit scrambled…..

https://accordingtohoyt.com/2023/11/27/shouldering-it-up/

Barb Meier

Thanks for the link to author, Sarah Hoyt! Very interesting.

barkerjim

Thanks, liked it very much. The comments too.

Barb Meier

Agree. I checked the About page and there were great comments and Sarah responses as well.

duchess01
duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you for these, especially the last one from 2Timothy 1:7. Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.

TradeBait2

Thank you for this most excellent opener, DePat.

Praying for peace and comfort for you and your family through this season of life. Only you know the valley of grief you are walking through. May the Lord walk with you.

It has been the most sickening thing we have experienced in some years as we watch so many die or be injured around us for simply trusting their government to tell them the truth and look out for their best interests.

I do not want to bring extra sorrow to my friends on here. But a lot of folks we have known well for decades are slowly dying due to the devil’s jabs.

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TradeBait2

My wife’s hairdresser says the exact same thing. She refused to taken them, sees things as we do on here.

Barb Meier

Oh my gosh, DePat. I had not thought about the changes our hairdressers must be seeing in their clients. It must be hard for them to stay positive sometimes.

Barb Meier

Yes. Sometimes I remind myself that the accelerated decline of others that I am seeing is also seen and recognized by others. Those declining may not see it themselves because it’s so close to what they see every day. It was like that when my Dad died. I was still so busy trying to help him get better right up until he was gone. I even asked the undertaker if I could help him more when he came to take Dad to the mortuary. I would have carried my dad the few blocks if he had asked me. Loved my dear Dad so.

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kalbokalbs

Terrible Truths, Reality, folks with their Eyes Wide Open, are learning.

kalbokalbs

On the positive side…

Have not read the article. Will in awhile.

Musk: Israel ‘Has No Choice’ but to End Hamas’ Terror; ‘I’d Like to Help’

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/elon-musk-israel-visit/2023/11/27/id/1143708/

kalbokalbs
TradeBait2

Just because of southern rock, guitars and such…

Aubergine

This is great stuff.

Brave and Free

One of my all time favorites, saw them in concert many times in the 70’s.

TradeBait2

No better exercise than to put the pods in for a fitness walk on the beach while listening to Green Grass and High Tides.

Aubergine

A couple of comments.

First, that new Trump ad is excellent. Whoever is doing his ads really knows their stuff.

Second, I really believe that if TPTB said to Elon Musk that they had the power and would take every dollar he had if he didn’t conform and do what they said, he’d say “fuck you, take it.” Agree with him or not, like him or not, he is true to himself and what he believes.

Barb Meier

I agree with you, Aubergine. From what I observe about Musk, he did not get wealthy for the joy of being rich. He got wealthy by doing things that engage his intellect. I don’t agree with him on everything, but I do respect him for his willingness to keep learning, to change his mind when facts change, and to find humor in things around him.

Aubergine

Yes. That is my kind of human.

Aubergine

I made a meme:

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Barb Meier

Great job!

Aubergine

Lol, thanks!

Jack Smith is a THUG

AWESOME!

Aubergine

Thanks!

para59r

Still of the belief that the red trees were a silent tribute to those who were martyred in the Christian faith.

para59r

Although there is no evidence of that I base it two things. Her Christian piety and that a good artist never tells and will let you decide what their art means.

singingsoul1

Love it Aubergine 🙂

Aubergine

Thank you!

singingsoul1

🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Bye, Dung’s WinterBlunderland…

Jack Smith is a THUG

from tcth
Winston
November 28, 2023 9:21 am

BREAKING: DOJ Collected Name of Every Twitter Account to Like, Follow or Retweet Trump
‘Twitter is required to disclose the following information … all lists of Twitter users who have favorited or retweeted tweets posted by [Trump], as well as all tweets that include the username associated with the account (i.e., mentions or replies)…’
November 27, 2023
https://headlineusa.com/breaking-doj-collected-name-of-every-twitter-account-to-like-follow-or-retweet-trump/
(Ken Silva, Headline USA) Justice Department attorneys have released records related to their search warrant for Donald Trump’s Twitter account, revealing that prosecutors obtained a vast trove of data about the former President’s social media activity—including info on every account to like, follow or retweet him.
The heavily redacted search warrant was released Monday pursuant to a Nov. 17 judge’s order, which was made after a coalition of media groups filed an application in August for the warrant and other records to be made public.
From the looks of it, Twitter forked over massive amounts of information to the DOJ.
Indeed, Special Counsel Jack Smith sought, and apparently ultimately received, all users Trump followed, unfollowed, muted, unmuted, blocked, or unblocked—as well as all users who have followed, unfollowed, muted, unmuted, blocked or unblocked Trump.
Additionally, Smith demanded Twitter data on “all lists of Twitter users who have favorited or retweeted tweets posted by [Trump], as well as all tweets that include the username associated with the account (i.e., ‘mentions’ or ‘replies’).”

Brave and Free

Wonder if they did the same with Truth Social?

singingsoul1

This is communism on steroids. These people are more dangerous than I expected. This Smith guy is demonic . The voters have been trusting and naive for way to long I included. ” turn the other cheek” messed to many up. This was never meant to just take it.
To me it feels as this sentence from Christ was used to control the masses. I could be wrong.

Jack Smith is a THUG

no, I agree. turn the other cheek has been corrupted imo.

singingsoul1

Yes it has

Barb Meier

Nonetheless, I remain glad that I choose to use my own name. I look forward to any discussions with anyone in the FBI or DOJ. “What in God’s name was OGC, SES, and NSD thinking?” We all took the same oath and all those involved have failed that oath and our fellow countrymen. They have a lifetime obligation to self-report.

Aubergine

I watched this video this morning. It is about a group of Israeli tanks that responded to the October 7 attack. The twist is, the tanks crews are all female, the first ever in a Western war.

What’s interesting is that you don’t really find out that this report is more of a justification for using all female crews until the end. Up until then, it seems more like this is a story about the tank crews defense of a kibbutz. I mean, you know they are all women, but it seems more about the response on October 7 than about them, specifically, until the end.

But what it tells me is, the army did respond to the attacks early on the morning of October 7. These tank crews did, at least, and they came from the Egyptian border to do so.

Now, I realize this could be very skillful propaganda. But these women seem pretty real, and they are interesting to watch (it’s subtitled; none of it is in English). And the fact that none are English speakers makes me think that even if this is propaganda, it’s not directed at the West, i.e. us.

I found it worth 15 minutes, which I rarely do of videos.

para59r

Saw cut up versions of this, maybe some extra outtakes. Good story, maybe they should of gotten it out earlier to respond to the lack of response thing, though there was still a lack of response elsewhere in too many places. Also helps to combat the kibbutz’s being hit by friendly fire that Ritter and that other goofball Hinkle keep tossing up, just by describing the fog of war part of this.

Oh needless to say the anti Israel crowd are using out of context snippets of this to their advantage too.

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Barb Meier

She immediately says that she did not shoot where civilians might be located in spite of what he said.

kalbokalbs

Judgement Spot On.

Aubergine

Well, yes, earlier would have been better. And of course parts will be taken out of context. They RAN OVER terrorists with tanks. I cheered, but leftist would freak right out!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’d run over them twice, if there was time.

Aubergine

Yeah, me too! Forward and reverse, and forward again!

barkerjim

Just spin the tank and then proceed forward!

Aubergine

Lol!

cthulhu

Better to run over 200 once, than 100 twice.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think we’re all assuming there’s time to spare after running over all available targets once.

para59r
Aubergine

Well, I say, let ’em freak! And point and laugh at them like the shit-flinging monkeys they are.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Well said. And here’s a toast to Pal-pals on Splodey-Head!

Barb Meier

I am reminded that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the younger of two brothers who committed the Boston Marathon Bombing, ran over his older brother Tamerlan to evade police.

Barb Meier

I just watched the video and I agree it was valuable. It made my eyes water to think what they went through, learning that when someone invades your country, running over them and moving on is the correct action. The captioning it showed me was in English and I’m glad of that. I was so intent on seeing what they were saying that I did not know what language they were actually speaking.

Aubergine

I’m glad you found it useful. I sure did.

kalbokalbs

These soldiers did well.

I remain puzzled where the Rest of the IDF was. WTF was Israeli intelligence.

  • Cover up AND Split Traitorous government.
Happy go lucky

This was great, thanks for sharing 🤩

Aubergine

🙂

Aubergine

I just happened to catch the title track to a Third Day CD on the radio the other day. They are a religious rock group, if you are unfamiliar. I was until not long ago.

I looked up the album, and after hearing the first eight songs and never skipping a track (NEVER happens to me), I ordered it.

If you are a fan of Lynard Skynard, the Allman Brothers, or old-school Muscle Shoals blues-type music, you will love this stuff! Here’s a great one:

And the title track, which is fantastic, and the lyrics are quite appropriate today:

Anybody here looking for revival
In our own hearts and across the land
Anybody looking for a revival
Lift up your voice and say Amen
Lift up your voice and say Amen
Ain’t gonna find it in a politician
Not from the government or any law
Can’t get it going by your own religion
Only by the Spirit and the Word of God
Only by the Spirit and the Word of God
Come with me
Come on with me, yeah!

As an extra-added bonus for me, my pastor, also the lead singer in our church band, sounds just like this guy! Sunday morning is a blast for me. I love music. It stirs my soul.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Awesome! I have one of their older albums. I’ll have to check this one out.

Jack Smith is a THUG

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOVE IT. Lectern Guy is enjoying his freedom!

TheseTruths

Exclusive: Matt Gaetz Demands Air Force Reveal Who Told Airmen Not to Attend a Conservative Rally in North Dakota

…Gaetz wrote in his letter to Kendall:

“I write to express grave concern regarding brazen partisan comments made by the command at Minot Air Force Base (AFB) in North Dakota.

“You are obligated to intervene, as this series of actions demonstrates a clear misapplication of the Hatch Act, which states members on active duty should not engage in political activities while in uniform to avoid creating the appearance that their political activities imply official Department of Defense (DoD) sponsorship, approval or endorsement of a candidate, campaign or cause.”

Furthermore, Gaetz noted the rally on November 17, 2023, took place after work hours, and not on federal property.

He observed that description of the event on its own website did not appear to be controversial, and it appeared exception was taken to the keynote speaker of the evening, Tyler Bowyer, chief operating officer of Turning Point Action, which Gaetz noted was a non-profit and one of the largest conservative grassroots organizations in the nation.

“Thus, the text messages and emails from command show a growing politicization at installations within the Department of the Air Force (DAF) favoring one political party or political view,” he said.

Gaetz demanded Kendall reveal who at Minot AFB or elsewhere approved or issued these messages to the base’s service members, what Air Force policies forbid participation or assembly in political causes while off duty, and why the message said attending the rally could “jeopardize a service member’s continued service in the U.S. military.”

He also asked what specific actions the Air Force would take to ensure that service members’ constitutional rights are not violated in the future.

TheseTruths

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Jack Smith is a THUG

if we offend the UN with our habits, i suggest they find another place in which to meet.

pgroup2

I’d like to see their dining hall menu.

Jack Smith is a THUG

AHA! good thinking

Aubergine

Check out my response to pgroup up above. Lotsa meat on the menu.

Jack Smith is a THUG

I don’t tweet or I would put that on blast!

singingsoul1

Only the best cuts of meat ?

Aubergine

Well, here’s something:

“The International Prix-Fixe Luncheon Experience at the United Nations’ Delegates Dining Room is one of Manhattan’s best kept secrets. Presenting fresh and exciting international cuisine, the elegant lunch menu at the DDR includes daily features that celebrate culinary trends and classics from across the globe while also focusing on fresh local, organic and/or sustainable produce, fish and meats with a true commitment to authentic flavors, spices and preparation methods.”

https://www.delegatesdiningroom-un.com/restaurant/

The U.N. Plaza Grill is even better. Click on Menus at the top, and then on Food. A .pdf comes up. Here are the main courses:

Crispy-Seared Mediterranean Branzino 47
Grilled lemons, fresh herbs, roasted seasonal vegetables
Pan Roasted Alaskan Salmon Fillet 44
Asian glaze, carrots, Artichokes, potato Gnocchi
Veal Chop Schnitzel 85
baby arugula, cherry tomatoes, baby cucumber,
Kalamata olives, roasted potatoes
Braised Boneless Short Ribs 87
Prunes, red wine, balsamic, mashed potatoes
Roasted Half Duck 65
Apricot-lemon zest sauce, herbed couscous
Waygu UN Burger 55
House-ground 8oz patty, lettuce, grilled onion, pickle,
tomato, homemade BBQ sauce, short rib topper,
hand-cut fries
BBQ Short Rib Sandwich 36
Slow-cooked pulled beef, grilled onions, hand-cut fries
Spaghetti Salmon with Tomato Sauce 38
Potato Gnocchi 38
Short rib ragout, spiced tomatoes

https://unplazagrill.com/

Lotta meat on the menu at the Ol’ U.N. Of course, we know they are a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

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TheseTruths

I was just about to post that! One site says it is only open to private parties now, but still…shouldn’t they be offering insects and no meat?

THE DELEGATES DINING ROOM IS OPEN FOR PRIAVTE EVENTS ONLY!

PLEASE REFER TO THE “EVENTS” TAB FOR MORE INFORMATION.

AT THIS TIME, THE PRIX-FIXE RESTAURANT EXPERIENCE IS CLOSED.

PLEASE CHECK BACK FOR INFORMATION REGARDING

PUBLIC REOPENING DATES FOR THE LUCHEON EXPERIECE

https://www.delegatesdiningroom-un.com/restaurant/

para59r

The menu obviously needs to be replaced with savory bug dishes consisting of maggots, crickets, grasshoppers, ants, roaches, earthworms, centipedes, grubs, and other dirt loving delicacies served raw, stewed, baked or roasted.

Aubergine

Exactly!

TheseTruths

Scorpions too.

Cuppa Covfefe

Waygu UN Burger 55″ !!!!???????

Hmmm. Maybe they should look at the “animal rights” issues there…

Then again, Waygu to all that trouble….. 🙂

Barb Meier

$40 for lunch for a delegate, $50 for lunch for the public. Both the restaurant and cafes state they are closed but not sure if they are still locked down for covid, or just failed to update the website. The gallery gives you some idea of how fancy their meals are.

https://www.delegatesdiningroom-un.com/restaurant/

Aubergine

I can think of many better uses for the building.

Jack Smith is a THUG

who would we get to do the exorcism first?

Linda

It would probably take all of them.

Barb Meier

snort

Aubergine

Gonna have to be somebody good!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Don’t forget the fumigation.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Perhaps it can become a Trump international hotel.

Aubergine

Lol, perfect!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s even about the right shape…at least a lot like the one in Vegas.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

singingsoul1

I like that 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Say, at the bottom of the Marianas Trench… diving equipment optional…

Or, perhaps, a bit farther away, where they can see hydrocarbon sludge bubbling up from the ocean floor… get some local warming while they’re at it…

cthulhu

There’s a nice little village in Iceland that would be just about perfect…..

barkerjim

Defund the UN and remove them from North America!

Jack Smith is a THUG

some where in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean would be swell

Aubergine

Marianas Trench with heavy anchors attached.

It’s the only way to be sure.

Jack Smith is a THUG

RIGHT!
better safe than sorry

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That’s fairly close to dry land (it’s a trench off an island arc, a common tectonic feature. But the great depth and the heavy anchors more than make up for that minor handicap.

singingsoul1

There real UN is in Switzerland .

barkerjim

https://www.un.org/en/visit/tour

Really in New York City.

singingsoul1

I know but the evil sits in Switzerland. NYC is the stamp of approval of what they propose in Geneva . I saw that on Bannon.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

KLAUS AND THE KKKABAL!

singingsoul1

Yes

singingsoul1

Amen
What a nerve of the UN who do they think they are our overlords 🤔

barkerjim
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff – thanks for that!!!

para59r

Hyperprogressive Cancer is synonymous with everything and anything the Cabal, WEF, Democrats and RINOs touch so the only surprise here is they left evidence and someone was able to find it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They are themselves a hyperprogressive cancer.

And that word can be taken two different ways, can’t it?

Aubergine

Somewhere in this thread I used this link, and I think I may have found a way to combat the cancers. If they are being caused/aggravated by IgG4, then corticosteroids could help.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Interesting!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Will do!!!

TradeBait2

Well, well, well. Note to Gail. We were right on Bariq, Fauci, Collins. Dr. Malone linked this. Two interviews on the piece from Sky. The second half of the second one is a direct admission of what happened from Fauci’s boss who reported to Trump.

It was all about being hellbent on GOF so they could do the jabs forever and make boatloads of money if you follow the crumbs. That played perfectly into the hands of the left and globalists to gain power.

But we knew that on here years ago.

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/cia-analysts-were-bribed-to-change-position-on-covid19-origins-as-fauci-led-orchestrated-effort-to-undermine-lableak-origin-theory/news-story/654fc9e34a605ddc32a43b52111d0d45?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

TradeBait2

Add in that despite what Kadlec says, it was not an unintentional lab leak. If he told the full truth he would be dead. It was as intentional as it could be. It was coordinated between the CCP and elements in our military. China also used their own people to transmit it worldwide. From garment workers in Europe to “students” in universities throughout the world.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen.

pgroup2

Got this off one of those click-bait ads at the end of some articles. I immediately thought that the RNC needs this guy to do motivational talks for those old fossils.

//////////////////////
Location: a popular Canadian coffee franchise almost ten years ago.

One day, a drive-thru customer had some sort of altercation with a pair of pedestrians who had been walking through the drive-thru.

The customer had almost hit the pedestrians — a man and his mother, and then had started shouting at them.

The man responded by yelling back,

“YOU WANNA FACE FULLA BICEP?! I’LL GIVE YA A FACE FULL OF BICEP!”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

TradeBait2

Y’all are going to see another reason why I like Tim so much. If you cannot get this on X you may from Tucker’s site or another source. Quite the interview and probably brings new meaning to PDT adding Space Force to our nation’s defense capabilities.

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1729654845806727548?s=20

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Good man. From what I can tell, disclosure has been a significant part of the problem with our government, like a gallstone or kidney stone that needs to pass.

Problem? DEAL WITH IT. That’s why we need TRUMP.

kalbokalbs

Excellent interview.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is pretty horrifying stuff, but it’s a video of an Israeli military official reading witness accounts of Hamas barbarism against women, from a witness who was hiding.

The reason I don’t doubt this, is familiarity with historic evils of a similar nature.

Graphic Descriptions of Hamas Crimes Against Women

Happy go lucky

People need to know this.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s hard truth, but ….. situational awareness. Can’t pretend they aren’t what they are.

singingsoul1

Hamas is a demonic organization. No one in their right mine does stuff like that.
I heard today Hamas is blaming Israel for the death of the 10 month baby, 4 year old brother and mom. They said Israel killed them.
No Israel did not kill them Hamas took the family out of their home and dragged them to Gaza. Hamas killed them. They are playing with peoples mind. I do not buy the crap know when evil presents itself as innocent of wrong doing.
Shame on people who take the site of Hamas.

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kalbokalbs

Stumbled on this at IntelSlava.

Very. VERY Interesting. An angle on USS Liberty, I had Never heard before.

IntelSlava Emphasis mine.

The time a Russian Destroyer saved American Lives

On June 8, 1967 the now infamous false-flag attack on the USS Liberty occured. While the incident is now well known online, what is not is that the crew of the vessel were saved by Russian intervention.

At the time of the incident, an SOS put out by the American crew was detected by nearby Soviet forces, resulting in Destroyer 626/4 arriving to the aid of the American ship. As a result, the Israelis were forced to stop their attack at a moment where they had teams ready to board the ship.

That the Russian vessel saved the Americans is attested to both in official documents, including a 1983 declassified memo by the U.S. Navy and NSA documents from 2011. Likewise, Pravda interviewed two Liberty crew members in 2002, with both stating the Russian intervention likely saved their lives. Amid the twin conflicts today, this is something to keep in mind.

More at the link.

https://t.me/intelslava/53592

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Good to know.

Complicated business. Calls for a PRESIDENT LIKE TRUMP.

kalbokalbs

Too late to edit my post above.

Russian story IS believable. However, information at the link, within the article, disputes it.

While on a frigate.

  • Occasionally, we or other American small ships shadowed Russian Navy ships.
  • Just as Russian Navy ships, shadow American Navy ships.
  • If one Navy ship breaks down – DIW – Dead In The Water. Loses propulsion. (It happens, albeit infrequently) The other Navy ship offers assistance. Which of course is refused.
  • ^^^ This is possibly the scenario with a Russian destroyer in the vicinity of USS Liberty, was attacked by Israel.. Liberty a spy or communication ship of some sort.
kalbokalbs

Odd ball thought.

It appears some airports are filling up with illegals.

  • Perhaps illegals gravitate to air[orts, cuz they are warm, air conditioned, bathrooms, and wide open interiors. Well sort of wide open.
  • Or, Feds and states dumping illegals at airports.

  :wpds_arrow:  What will be the influx of illegals at airports be, during peak Christmas travel? New Years?

MeThinks.

This is All Intentional to further frustrate Americans.

  • Physical backlash inbound?
Barb Meier

Do we have someone who followed the Seth Rich case? I think this year the floodgates are going to open and we will need people picking a few topics to follow more deeply. While a judge’s order is not data delivered, it is a start. The judge gives them 14 days to deliver a schedule for delivering hard drives and so on that the FBI has in its holdings.

It does feel like X/Twit is getting super busy with data dumps.

Barb Meier
para59r

Correct me if wrong, but isn’t the next official response from the FIB normally we can’t find or we destroyed the lap top….?

Brave and Free

Continuing investigation, unable to comply at this time.