Dear KAG: 20231220 Open Thread

Badlands News Brief – December 19. 2023

Russia Tells BRICS To Ban Dollar

Covid Redux

Progressivism Forces Americans to Forget Their History

US economist predicts 2024 will bring ‘biggest crash of our lifetime’

People Finally Starting to Notice the Real DC Players Like Mary McCord, but It’s Much, Much Bigger

BREAKING: Colorado Supreme Court DISQUALIFIES President Trump from ballot, citing ‘insurrectionist’ rule

Whatever. It’s ONE state.

Tweets, X-Posts, Whatever

Memes & Stuff

Umm…..

Asphalt….

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

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It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

SATIRE SECTION

Oops….

That’s the best I can do today.

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TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s me!

TheseTruths

Nous sommes tous des Trump.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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Valerie Curren

Oui, oui!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There is someone else to vote for?

TheseTruths

Good point…

Gail Combs

Ashe in CO mentioned that Colorado passed a law so you can not do a write in for POTUS Trump.

Instead of tossing out my vote, I would vote for KENNEDY.  🖕 Joe Biden & the DNC…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

This is only the primary (so far)….so Kennedy isn’t an option, he’s in the other party.

Gail Combs

Just mentioning it in case they do succeed.

The Supreme Court needs a fire lit under their collective butts!

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He’s absolutely right. I would support WAR to deal with Colorado. And any other states who create this legal FARCE to keep Trump off the ballot. It’s illegal, immoral, and evil.

scott467

And the never-Trump traitor Cruzlim-types, i.e. the entire establishment RINO GOP is working hand-in-glove with the traitor-Left.

Valerie Curren

per usual  😠 

Gail Combs

Good grief INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!

I have seen NO ONE bring up that point. Trump has only been ACCUSED. Heck we can ACCUSE Biden of being a foreign agent intent on overthrowing our Constitution and have HIM removed.

pat frederick

you have some good ideas Gail…lol
when do we roll?

Gail Combs

Problem is we WANT ByeDone as the DNC pick. I think he is even more unlikable than Hillary.

pat frederick

i doubt he will be. he served his purpose. he is the face of the disaster–anyone coming in now will assume the “savior” role

Gail Combs

Or they will try and make it seem that people see the DNC pick that way.

Dora

He’s getting there but not quite yet.

scott467

What ‘democracy’?

Whatchoo talkin’ about, Willis?

eilert

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Gail Combs

  :wpds_grin: 

slowcreekno

Is this decision to disallow Trump on the state’s ballots, applicable to the ones in the Presidential Election, which is a national-scope issue, or can it only be applied to the earlier ballots such as the primary ballot? In which case the counter-move is as shown, by skipping the while primary election activity.

Gail Combs

Watch the Viva Frei video. As he explains it is a PSYOP to get MAGA to do something stupid. The decision included a STAY to prevent implementation until AFTER Supreme Court decision.

This shows it is a Dog and Pony show from BOTH SIDES. Turley as a lawyer should KNOW BETTER, (Notice the ‘powder keg’ comment.)

The FEDsurrection is looking more and more lame to the average American so the Globalist NEED MORE MAGA VIOLENCE…. Even if they have to stage it themselves.

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TheseTruths

Nice gesture by Vivek, even a meaningful one, but it wouldn’t make a bit of difference if the single-digit candidates withdrew from the CO ballot. They are delusional to even be in the race at this point. Vivek is doing some good by getting the word out about some things, though.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, if it stands AND Colorado RINO party sticks to a primary, one of those single digit candidates will win a state, because the only guy not in single digits won’t be on the ballot.

Withdrawing throws that chance away. So it’s not just a gesture by any means.

smiley2

wasn’t the same thing done to Lincoln, and it started a civil war ??

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Gail Combs
Charlie

Spot on! Governor of CO is a 2012 WEF graduate. He works in tandom with the agenda. The state is being set up with hundreds of 15 minute cities with multiple warehouse spaces for what?
Colorado has been sold out. It’s not second to CA it is first to be full fledge communist!

cthulhu

Thank you, De Pat, for a most excellent Wednesday post…..

Sent shivers down my spine!

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup.

scott467

Trump: “Joe Biden is a threat to democracy.”

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He would be, if we had a ‘democracy’.

What we have is an unelected, illegitimate, rogue, renegade tyranny.

Gail Combs

The USA is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC. It was NEVER a Democracy.

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para59r

Adds picture of a Rothchild or Rockefeller standing between and slightly behind the wolves with hands warmly on their shoulders as he grins at the sheep the same as them and for full effect slap a MAGA hat on the sheep fella.

Gail Combs

And up grade the pistol to a machine gun.

TheseTruths

Democracy

government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

People are using the term in that sense. I think it is a losing battle to try to get everyone, including Trump and MAGA politicians, to never use the word “democracy” when referring to the United States. We have “government of the people, by the people, and for the people,” as Lincoln stated in the Gettysburg address.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Basically, the people who knee-jerk say “this is not a democracy” are thinking of the Athenian democracy, which was unbounded (they could vote to do anything) and pure (they literally voted, the entire electorate, on everything.)

Gail Combs

Democracy – Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org›Democracy

Throughout history, one can find evidence of direct democracy, in which communities make decisions through popular assembly

THAT is the democracy I remember. But like everything else the meaning of the word has changed.

I remember it from this:

Consider the words of the Founding Fathers themselves, who — one after another — condemned democracy.

• Virginia’s Edmund Randolph participated in the 1787 convention. Demonstrating a clear grasp of democracy’s inherent dangers, he reminded his colleagues during the early weeks of the Constitutional Convention that the purpose for which they had gathered was “to provide a cure for the evils under which the United States labored; that in tracing these evils to their origin every man had found it in the turbulence and trials of democracy….”

John Adams, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, championed the new Constitution in his state precisely because it would not create a democracy. “Democracy never lasts long,” he noted. “It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself.” He insisted, “There was never a democracy that ‘did not commit suicide.’”

• New York’s Alexander Hamilton, in a June 21, 1788 speech urging ratification of the Constitution in his state, thundered: “It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.” Earlier, at the Constitutional Convention, Hamilton stated: “We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.”

James Madison, who is rightly known as the “Father of the Constitution,” wrote in The Federalist, No. 10: “… democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they are violent in their deaths.” The Federalist Papers, recall, were written during the time of the ratification debate to encourage the citizens of New York to support the new Constitution…..

So I will continue to NOT use a word/idea the Founding Fathers condemned.

scott467

It was, until January 20, 2021.

When it went from a Constitutional Republic to a Banana Republic.

Robert Baker

If Trump did say that I wish he had not. That will give the Deep State impetus to send one of their brainwashed soldiers to murder Biden. That would serve their interests on two counts: 1) get rid of their unpopular candidate and 2) blame Hitler Trump and indict Trump on another insurrection charge. Trump needs wise counsel for this campaign.

Gail Combs

Yes he did say it.

TheseTruths

They have been saying the same about Trump for at least 8 years. “Joe Biden is a threat to democracy” is the truth. IMO we can’t let the Left stifle our ability to speak the truth because they might do something evil.

Robert Baker

It is not about whether it is true or even the right to speak the truth. The issue is what was gained by mentioning it. Every MAGA Trump supporter already knew that fact. There is no upside in allowing the media to advance the narrative about Hitler Trump.

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

Yesterday, Cuppa Covfefe mentioned the Colonel Bogey March. Here is Dudley Moore playing it in the style of Beethoven…a comedic actor who plays at the level of a concert pianist. 😅

cthulhu

English music hall performers of a certain era could be assumed to know the works of Gilbert and Sullivan — and Sir Arthur Seymour Sullivan was a world-renowned classical composer in his day job (he composed the music for “Onward, Christian Soldiers” and “The Lost Chord”, for instance). Though he always felt his work with Gilbert was “slumming it”, he was fond of the financial rewards…..and, today, that’s what he’s best known for.

Dudley Moore comes from the bygone era when comics were well-educated and talented.

Gail Combs

Left overs from the Vaudville era Like the Marx brothers.

I was always ticked that when Harpo started playing his harp, the station would cut away to a commercial.

We were a ‘test’ area and got very long commercials  😡 

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Gail Combs

Well that certainly got Hubby’s attention.

His question (and mine) is was that rehearsed or extemporaneous like Tom Brier’s playing.

He checked. There is a written score available.

TheseTruths

Interesting. It takes a lot of skill to be able to play it, and to insert facial expressions and glances at the audience at the same time!

Cuppa Covfefe

There are some hilarious YouTubes of Victor Borge, including improvisations at the keyboard (some flummoxing the other musicians 🙂 )… And another where he plays and entire town band all by himself… “Inflationary Language” is a classic, too (and probably more apt now than it was when first performed)…

“Twice upon a time”, “Twoterful”, “befive”… 🙂

Valerie Curren

“Inflationary Language” 

my daughter Loves this!

Gail Combs

Victor Borge is an absolute favorite of mine… SIGHhhhh

They just do not make them like they used to.

Cuppa Covfefe

Bonus points for figuring out the different pieces quoted during that 😀

He studied to be a concert pianist, organist, and composer, having attended Oxford on a music scholarship. Much like Victor Borge, his comedic and acting talents were outstanding as well…

Morecambe and Wise were contemporaries of Moore and Cook, and also talented musicians. The amount of talent, and uproarious humor back in those days on TV seems to have disappeared on the small screen (and even the big screen, for that matter)…

Gail Combs

It is why, when I came back from Europe in 1976, I took one look at TV, barfed and went back to reading. There was NOTHING but silly sit-coms and soup operas.

TheseTruths

Catturd:

After the scumbag commie traitors in Colorado’s Supreme courts fascist decision …

It’s Trump or we lose the country.

I don’t want to hear about your pitiful 8% in polls candidate anymore.

Get in the fight to save the USA – or get TF out of the way.

And:

100 years from now, people will still be talking about how President Trump tried to save this country from itself – If it even exists by then.

Believe me, nobody will even remember Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Chip Roy, etc.

100% guaranteed.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I am FINISHED with these Rocky Mountain Communists.

Cuppa Covfefe

The(ir) world is their Rocky Mountain Oyster…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You never have to deal with them.

They keep ending up stuck to the bottom of my shoe like all the other dog turds.

Valerie Curren

  :wpds_chuckle: 

Gail Combs

It is why Hubby and I moved to the middle of no where and we STILL have to deal with Communist morals!

scott467

“Believe me, nobody will even remember Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Chip Roy, etc.”

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Hopefully they will be made examples of, and remembered as the traitors they are.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

After all, Revolutionary War General Arnold isn’t remembered for what he did BEFORE he turned coat.

Gail Combs

I am still of the opinion that heads on pikes leading to the House and the Senate would be a very good reminder. Each head labeled with name and crime.

(Heads contributed by traitors after conviction of course.)

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, my only concern is running out of room on the national mall.

Valerie Curren

  :wpds_lol: 

Gail Combs

The lesser lights can decorate  I-495, the Capital Beltway, 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Perhaps the “inner loop” (i.e., the side that drives around the loop clockwise). Closer to the Swamp. Wouldn’t want to keep them too far away from home. That would be inhumane.

Robert Baker

I would think that the drive up to the Pentagon and the CIA would be sobering. It would certainly tamp down the urge to betray your country.

TheseTruths

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/jordan-subpoenas-ag-garland-over-doj-spying-congress

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, on Tuesday issued a subpoena to Attorney General Merrick Garland demanding that he provide information on the DOJ’s spying on congressional employees.

In October of this year, Just the News reported that current and former congressional oversight staff were notified that the DOJ had seize their phone and email records in 2017 while investigating leaks. The belated notification came due to the government convincing a federal court to hide the communications seizure for five years. Among those who had their records seized were at least a dozen members of Congress from both parties and/or their staff.

The revelations prompted furor from Congressional Republicans, who that same month demanded that the DOJ explain itself. In the subpoena issued Tuesday, Jordan acknowledged that the DOJ had replied to his request, albeit not to his satisfaction…

TheseTruths

SHOWDOWN: Biden White House Attacks Abbott as Groups Sue Texas Gov to Stop New Law Allowing Police to Arrest Illegal Aliens
One lawsuit asserts that the federal government has sole authority over immigration.

Gail Combs

Texas is a BAD state to go after with that. Texas was a republic BEFORE joining the union and has special provisions and concessions made as part of the agreement.

Gail Combs

TEXAS CONSTITUTION

ARTICLE I BILL OF RIGHTS

That the general, great and essential principles of liberty and free government may be recognized and established, we declare:

Sec. 1. FREEDOM AND SOVEREIGNTY OF STATE. Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States, and the maintenance of our free institutions and the perpetuity of the Union depend upon the preservation of the right of local self‑government, unimpaired to all the States. (Feb. 15, 1876.)

Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient. (Feb. 15, 1876.)…

Sec. 22. TREASON AGAINST STATE. Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, or adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort; and no person shall be convicted of treason except on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. (Feb. 15, 1876.) {I would love to see this used against those bring these lawsuits!]

U.S. Supreme Court upholds law against encouraging illegal immigration
I wonder if this move by Texas means they NOW have ‘legal standing’ to go after the Federal Government about immigration.

The case was one of two immigration-related rulings issued by the court on Friday. The justices also upheld the Biden administration’s move to narrow the scope of those who can be targeted by immigration agents for arrest and deportation, a shift that had been challenged by the republican attorneys general in Texas and Louisiana. The court said those  👉 states did not have legal standing to challenge the new guidelines 👈 ….

TradeBait2

^^^ Great point, Gail.

This is a big deal being fought behind the scenes as Texas has been making moves for quite some time to distance itself from DC. It has the capacity and location to successfully secede if pushed too hard.

Better that we return to being the constitutional republic and DC stands down to limited government once and for all.

Aubergine

If Texas got big-mad and pulled the trigger, seceding from the U.S., these idiots don’t even want to see what happens next.

kalbokalbs

It’d be like a contagion escaped…folks caught it…folks pursued it.

TheseTruths
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SMART.

TheseTruths

Lawmakers push to stop ‘fundamentally troubling’ sale of US Steel

Lawmakers in both parties are up in arms about the $15 billion acquisition of U.S. Steel by Japanese Nippon Steel Corporation (NSC), warning the deal could threaten national security, shift steelworking jobs to low-wage states and undermine U.S. industrial capacity…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What the hell!

IMO the Dems are up in arms because they want it to go to CHINA.

TheseTruths

They are up for reelection. From the article:

Democrats are also pushing back against the acquisition that would see the world’s fourth-largest steelmaker subsume the 27th-largest.

“This is a major blow to the American steel industry which has been instrumental in making us the superpower of the world and a direct threat to our national security,” Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said in a Tuesday statement. “We must be doing everything we can to prevent any further deterioration of American ownership.”

Senate Banking Committee Chair Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) criticized the deal for stemming unilaterally from management and failing to include union employees in the decision-making process.

“Nippon and U.S. Steel have insulted American steelworkers by refusing to give them a seat at the table and raised grave concerns about their commitment to the future of the American steel industry,” he said in a statement Monday.

Union jobs were also top of mind for Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.), who called the merger a “bad deal” for his state, where U.S. Steel is headquartered in Pittsburgh.

“I’m concerned about what this means for the Steelworkers and the good union jobs that have supported Pennsylvania families for generations, for the long-term investment in the Commonwealth, and for American industrial leadership,” he said in a Monday statement.

Brown and Casey are up for reelection in 2024 in states where former President Trump remains broadly popular. Both have touted their stalwart support of labor unions and attempts to hold major industrial firms accountable to their constituents.

TradeBait2

^^^ This. It undercuts their base of support in the blue commie regions as well as unions.

scott467

So, since so-called ‘lawmakers’ demonstrate daily that they couldn’t care less about “national security”, what actually must have happened is that the takeover of U.S. Steel has threatened a lucrative kickback scheme benefiting both parties.

scott467

“US economist predicts 2024 will bring ‘biggest crash of our lifetime’”

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So I guess that’s the ‘all clear’ signal that the bull market is on… 👍😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOW.

scott467

It’s Harry Dent.

He predicts everything will crash every year! 😁

TheseTruths

Good to know. 👍🏼

scott467

Doesn’t mean he’s wrong (this time), just means he’s consistent 😁

cthulhu

So……he’s known for pulling these prognostications from his Harry Dent?

scott467

Well, I’m not a Harry Dent expert by any stretch, I’m just familiar with him from his being around the periphery of the goldbugs and silverbugs.

His facts don’t appear to be wrong, his arguments aren’t bad, in the sense that sure, the system should have collapsed already, a long time ago.

The problem, it seems, is timing.

The goldbugs and silverbugs have the same problem.

In the absence of any counterbalancing force, the whole system should collapse every day at this point.

But most of the those types of analysts appear to discount that there are a lot of people in government and banking who are actively applying patches and band-aids on an ongoing basis — not because they care about anyone but themselves and their own wealth and power — and that ends up kicking the can a lot further down the road than anyone might have believed possible.

cthulhu

This is actually a serious problem in Economics — and one that allows fantasies and delusions like minimum wage, rent control, and federal stimulus to continue. Economists know, like night follows the day, that increases in the minimum wage lowers employment and adds to inflation, but it doesn’t slap legislatures in the face during the current term when it gets around to doing so. This allows legislatures to keep passing minimum wage laws and blaming the horrid societal effects on “bad luck” when they happen.

cthulhu

“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people.

Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as ‘bad luck’.”

― Robert Heinlein

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Gail Combs

Boy did Heinlein have that correct!

Envy/Hatred of the Good for Being the Good

Today, we live in the Age of Envy.

“Envy” is not the emotion I have in mind, but it is the clearest manifestation of an emotion that has remained nameless; it is the only element of a complex emotional sum that men have permitted themselves to identify….

This hatred is not resentment against some prescribed view of the good with which one does not agree. . . . Hatred of the good for being the good means hatred of that which one regards as good by one’s own (conscious or subconscious) judgment. It means hatred of a person for possessing a value or virtue one regards as desirable.

If a child wants to get good grades in school, but is unable or unwilling to achieve them and begins to hate the children who do, that is hatred of the good. If a man regards intelligence as a value, but is troubled by self-doubt and begins to hate the men he judges to be intelligent, that is hatred of the good.

The nature of the particular values a man chooses to hold is not the primary factor in this issue (although irrational values may contribute a great deal to the formation of that emotion). The primary factor and distinguishing characteristic is an emotional mechanism set in reverse: a response of hatred, not toward human vices, but toward human virtues.

Any Rand

The Communists of course take full advantage of this emotion. Fanning the flames higher and higher in order to destroy societies.

TradeBait2

Good points. 👍

The economic day of reckoning will be after the election in 2024 IMO.

As I anticipated the Fed lost their hard on against inflation in the last meeting and left the rates alone although they continue to shrink the money supply some. However, they probably did not account for the Suez getting blocked that soon. Which is going to jack up inflation again.

JMO –

If PDT is a lock they will resume tightening as the price indexes increase from the added inflation. They will make this fake economy worse to prep the way for PDT to do what PDT does – communicate with America and be the economic wiz he is. If they are still locked at the hip with WEF and the globalist scum they will hold steady or loosen the money supply reins more while manipulating the indexes.

The latter is when it all crashes for Blackrock and others to swoop in after the election.

Valerie Curren

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Gail Combs

The Feral Reserve System was ALWAYS going to implode. If Trump is in charge we handle it like Iceland did. JAIL THE BANKSTERS.

Iceland Jail Top Bankers For 46 Years, Europe ‘Outraged’

ICELAND HAS DIFFERED FROM THE REST OF EUROPE AND THE US BY ALLOWING BANKERS TO BE PROSECUTED AS CRIMINALS, RATHER THAN TREATING THEM AS A PROTECTED SPECIES…

Kaupthing was a big international bank headquartered in Reykjavik, Iceland. It expanded internationally for years, but collapsed in 2008 under huge debts, crippling the small nation’s economy.

By demanding that bankers be subject to the same laws as the rest of society, Iceland opted for a very different strategy in the wake of the financial crisis to rest of Europe and the US, where banks were fined nominal amounts, and directors and chief executives escaped punishment altogether…. [AND got bonuses to boot! GC]

Iceland adopted a different approach, declaring it would let the banks go bust, weed out and punish the criminal element at the top of the banks, and protect the savings of the people….

The Icelandic Approach

These guilty verdicts are just the latest in Iceland’s unprecedented clampdown since the economic crash.

  :wpds_arrow: Authorities have been pursuing bank bosses, chief executives, civil servants and corporate looters for crimes ranging from insider trading to fraud, money laundering, misleading markets, breach of duties and lying to officials.

Meanwhile the economy that collapsed so spectacularly has rebounded after letting its banks go bust, imposing capital controls and protecting its own citizens rather than the elite bank bosses responsible for the mess.

This determination to hold people to account for actions that caused intense financial misery contrasts strongly with the U.K., the rest of Europe and the US. Yes, fines were imposed on the 20 biggest banks for transgressions such as market manipulation, money-laundering and mis-selling mortgages, but these costs fall on shareholders and, by hampering the banks’ ability to lend, they also punish the rest of society.

Meanwhile the guilty senior bankers, thanks to government bail outs, carry on making enormous profits and collecting their obscene bonuses as though nothing happened.

Last year, the International Monetary Fund declared that Iceland had achieved economic recovery “without compromising its welfare model” or unduly punishing its citizens for crimes committed by its bankers….

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Cuppa Covfefe

Any relation to Arthur?

TheseTruths

I’m wondering what people are supposed to do with this news. I’ve been hearing for decades that one must have gold for the coming financial crisis. Now the market is going to crash. No one says to take all our money out of the bank and hide the cash, so are we just supposed to mentally prepare for inflation?

scott467

“I’m wondering what people are supposed to do with this news.”

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I don’t know either, and no one seems able to accurately predict the future.

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“I’ve been hearing for decades that one must have gold for the coming financial crisis.”

__________

Me too.

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“Now the market is going to crash.”

_________

Eventually, but when?

I think NASDAQ and S&P are at all-time highs, while something like $5 trillion is sitting on the sidelines because of the incessant doom und gloom.

How much longer are they going to wait?

And what are they going to invest in?

If there is a ‘blow off’ top, the markets could go a lot higher from here before any crash.

Or maybe somehow Trump wins, he solves or mitigates the financial crisis, and we don’t crash.

So I don’t know.

In the meantime, the Bitcoin ETFs are expected to be approved by or before January 10th, so sometime in the next few weeks.

When the first Gold ETF was approved, it went up for eight straight years.

The head of Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (ticker: GBTC) said in an interview just the other day that there is $30 trillion of ‘advised money’ (money that is being managed by professional money managers) in the U.S. alone.

So he did the math.

If just 0.5% of that $30 trillion is allocated to Bitcoin, that’s $150 billion, flowing into an asset class with a current market cap of $839 billion. If they allocate 1% that’s $300 billion, 2% is $600 billion, and so on. So it only takes a small percentage of $30 trillion to move a market the size of Bitcoin substantially.

Larry Fink, co-founder, chairman and CEO of Blackrock, the largest asset manager in the world (a.k.a. the evil empire), has been doing the TV circuit calling the recent Bitcoin rally a ‘flight to quality’. His sales force and the sales force of every other Bitcoin ETF are going to be selling the daylights out of Bitcoin as soon as the ETFs are approved.

They’re already gearing up for it. Google has changed their ad policy to allow Bitcoin advertising. The FASB accounting rules have been changed to allow Bitcoin held on the balance sheets of corporations to be reported at current market value (instead of reported at the lowest value since purchased, even if it has since gone way up, which is how the rules worked before, as crazy as that sounds).

The first ad has already appeared, and the ETFs haven’t even been officially approved yet:

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“No one says to take all our money out of the bank and hide the cash,”

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They never do, and they never will.

Not in 1929, not in 1987, not in 2000, not in 2008, not in 2020.

Someone has to be left holding the bag, and it’s not going to be the Big Club, so it’s always going to be the little guy, the working man. He’s the last to find out.

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“so are we just supposed to mentally prepare for inflation?”

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Bitcoin was created in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, to address the problem of corrupt governments and their insane abuse of fiat currency.

It is a store of value that is outside the corrupt system, in the sense that:

1) corrupt governments don’t control it

2) corrupt governments can’t debase it

3) there is no CEO or headquarters for corrupt governments to attack

It’s brilliant. The question has always been whether it could survive.

It has survived against all odds, so far.

Now the biggest of the big money managers in the world have stopped fighting it, and embraced it.

Just as the supply is about to be cut in half.

It’s almost showtime.

So we’ll see what happens.

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TheseTruths

Interesting; thank you. Bitcoin is so foerign to me that I would feel very vulnerable if I got involved. I think it would take a lot of study and research to get up to speed, but I will keep my eyes open.

Gail Combs

My problem with bitcoin is it need a COMPUTER. Cash, silver, gold hens eggs, eggplants… do not.

Aubergine

Right!

scott467

People can easily use their personal tracking device in lieu of a computer.

It works just the same.

So unless electricity and cell phones disappear, along with satellites and the Internet, permanently, there won’t be any problem accessing Bitcoin.

However, I don’t think Bitcoin will be used like cash by a lot of people for regular daily transactions. I don’t think a lot of people in the developed world will use Bitcoin like currency.

I think they will use it like real estate, an asset to hold for the long term, for appreciation and (soon) for income and as collateral for loans.

People in parts of the world who don’t have access to banking (or to reliable banking) can and do use Bitcoin like currency, and it is useful to send value across borders with low or practically no fees, but lots of other digital assets can be used the same way, like a currency.

For those who want to invest in Bitcoin, I don’t know why they would use it like currency.

Anyone who is old enough to remember when silver was removed from coinage in the U.S. (1964 was the last year for 90% silver in U.S. coins, IIRC) understands Gresham’s Law, i.e., “bad money chases out good money”.

When people received change in coins, they took the good money (the coins with 90% silver content) out of circulation and saved it. They used the ‘bad money’, the new coins with less (or no) silver, for transactional currency.

I expect that for many people, Bitcoin will be utilized similarly. They will save Bitcoin, and use debasing / inflating fiat for transactional currency.

kalbokalbs

Bitcoin is a myth of sorts, rooted in ones and zeroes. Nothing tangible.

Granted, I know near nothing about Bitcoin. But, IMO, bitcoin,   :wpds_chuckle: 

Yea, I know Scott really likes Bitcoin. Has posted many positive thoughts, some history, IIRC. But it is still, ONLY, ones and zeroes.

Gail Combs

One of Hillary’s people Brock I think was in on Bitcoin. (I did not keep the reference)

scott467

There is one thing that I like about this situation.

It won’t remain in doubt or dispute forever, or even for four long years, like DJT’s hoped for return.

It won’t be like the vaxx, or covid, or the stolen government, or all of the other things that we here are aware of, but can hardly show or convince anyone else of, no matter how hard we try.

One of the most frustrating things, for me, since DJT was elected until now, is living in a world where there is so little consensus or agreement about what is real.

With regard to Bitcoin, soon, possibly in a matter of weeks, and/or by mid-April, we should know something. Something which even now is not widely agreed upon or recognized.

When the Bitcoin spot ETF is approved, as a practical matter, it will change the perception of Bitcoin for many people, because the status of Bitcoin will be changed to that of a mainstream asset class.

The big money has had plenty of time to absorb and digest and plan how to position themselves for maximum advantage.

When they move in a big way, everyone else in the financial system follows.

Not that any private individual ever has to accept Bitcoin or use it of course, but the big institutions are about to, many corporations are about to, as are many retail investors. I’m not aware of any financial institution bigger than Blackrock, and they are just one of at least 12 major asset managers who have Bitcoin spot ETFs waiting for SEC approval.

When Blackrock announced they were creating a Bitcoin ETF and then suddenly Fidelity, Templeton, VanEck and others filed to offer Bitcoin ETFs too, it reminded me of the expression “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

This particular instance isn’t about winning though, it’s about discovery.

Because of two events, one of which should take place in the next few weeks (SEC approval), and another event that must take place on or about April 14th (the halving), everyone’s perception of reality, of what is real, at least with regard to this particular thing called Bitcoin, should finally converge.

I sure hope so.
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We’ll see… 🙂
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scott467

“Bitcoin is a myth of sorts, rooted in ones and zeroes. Nothing tangible.”

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Indeed!

Now, consider this.

What is fiat currency?

Is it not a myth of sorts, also?

If we have the physical paper, it is essentially a ‘certificate’ representing a government IOU, backed by the full faith and credit of an illegitimate and unelected regime that is $33+ trillion dollars in debt.

Not exactly a confidence booster.

If the fiat currency is in our bank accounts, then it too is rooted in ones and zeroes on a digital ledger, nothing tangible. Just like Bitcoin.

The physical paper fiat currency accounts for only a percentage of the total amount of U.S. fiat in existence.

According to https://www.uscurrency.gov/life-cycle/data/circulation, “As of December 31, 2020, there was $2,040.7 billion in circulation”, which is a little over $2 trillion dollars in face value, if I understand correctly.

All of the rest of the U.S. fiat currency, in the whole world, exists as 1s and 0s on computer (bank) ledgers, Treasuries, etc.

So this raises the question, why does either the paper currency OR the 1s and 0s on bank ledgers have any value, as a medium of exchange?

There has to be an answer to that question.

The only good one I can come up with, is because everyone (more or less) decides to agree that it has value as a medium of exchange.

After all, a $100 bill doesn’t have any more paper or ink in it than a $1 dollar bill, and it doesn’t take any more work or effort to print a $100 bill than it does a $1 or a $5 or a $10 or a $50 dollar bill.

It’s just a number printed on a piece of paper, like a receipt, and we all agree what the piece of paper with “$100” printed on it is worth one hundred of the papers that only have “$1” printed on them.

It’s literally just like Monopoly money.

Except U.S. fiat currency is backed by an entity far less credible or trustworthy than Parker Bros. or Hasbro.

So fiat currency is garbage, it’s a ‘note’ or a receipt for an IOU backed by the Brandon administration, an organized crime outfit.

But it works, for the time being, because everyone agrees to use it.

So let’s consider ‘real money’, i.e., gold.

Why is gold a store of value?

It’s yellow, but that’s not the reason. I suspect blue is a much more popular color than yellow. Probably green and red are, too.

It’s shiny, it doesn’t tarnish, it’s reasonably hard unless it’s .9999 pure, it conducts electricity, and it’s dense (heavy). It can be used for jewelry and to fill cavities in teeth.

But none of those are very good reasons to explain gold’s status as a store of value, or as ‘real money’.

One might say people just naturally like gold, but do they? Or is that something which is learned?

Is there any particular reason why a baby would favor a gold colored rattle toy more than a rattle toy of any other color?

I don’t think so.

It seems that the attraction most adults have to shiny gold metal is a learned response. There is nothing inherent about shiny gold metal that causes the synapses in a human brain to fire in a particular way, causing the brain to interpret the shiny gold metal as a ‘store of value’, so it must be something we are taught.

So why are we taught such a thing?

There has to be a reason.

Gold wasn’t just randomly chosen as a store of value, it was chosen because it has certain characteristics which make it useful for that purpose, and presumably those characteristics were more suitable as a medium of exchange and store of value than any other possible option.

So what are those characteristics of gold which have made it the best choice as a store of value for the past 5,000+ years?

Gold is immutable, that’s very helpful. But it can also be counterfeited, and that’s not very helpful.

Gold is portable, but you don’t want to have to carry a lot of it, at least not very far.

Gold is transactable, most easily if you are carrying it on your person. If you have to send it anywhere, it’s expensive to do so, because it’s heavy and it requires security measures.

Gold is divisible, sort of. You don’t really want to cut up a coin into smaller pieces, but you can make the coins in different sizes according to weight (if you trust the minter’s scales or that nobody has cut off the outer edge of the coin), or you can measure gold dust precisely, but determining purity of gold dust becomes an issue. So it is divisible, but imperfectly so.

Gold is verifiable. If it’s .9999 pure (like American Buffalos), you can do like in the old movies, and bite it, to see if your tooth leaves an indentation (I presume, I’ve never actually tried it 😁).

If it is an alloy of gold and copper (I think), to make it harder and more durable (like American Eagles), it will require some other means of verification. Likewise gold bars. They have to be assayed to verify their authenticity and purity. So it is certainly possible to verify and authenticate gold, but it requires some know-how and tools, and to really do it right (assay), it requires considerable effort and money, which is not ideal.

Gold is fungible, in that any verified or authenticated ounce of .9999 pure gold is interchangeable with any other verified .9999 pure ounce of gold, not considering factors like rare coins, the majority of whose value is in the rarity, not in the gold itself.

Gold is not immune to seizure, because the physical nature of gold means it can be taken by force — and often has been, by criminal regimes, just like our own:

Ancient Rome, 14AD to 37AD: Tiberius enforced strict regulations to prevent hoarding and private accumulation of gold and silver to stabilize Roman currency.

England, 1663, 1797 to 1821: England introduced the gold guinea coin to stabilize the currency, but later suspended gold payments, forcing citizens to use paper money instead.

France, 1790: French gov’t issued assignats and confiscated gold and silver from citizens to finance its expenditures during the French Revolution.

Soviet Union, 1917: Following the October Revolution, the Soviet gov’t nationalized all gold mines, reserves, and privately-owned gold (bummer).

Portugal, 1931 to 1974: the Portuguese gov’t banned private gold ownership during he Estado Novo regime to help maintain control over its currency

Czechoslovakia, 1934, 1945 to 1953: the Czech gov’t banned private gold ownership during the Great Depression and post-WWII years.

Spain, 1936 to 1939: the Spanish gov’t banned private gold ownership during the Spanish Civil War to fund the war effort.

Germany, 1939 to 1945: the German gov’t banned private gold ownership during WWII, requiring citizens to surrender their gold to the Reichsbank. Nazi bastards.

United States, 1933 to 1974: Executive Order 6102 and Gold Reserve Act. In a lawless and outright theft by the criminal regime of the time, the U.S. gov’t criminalized gold possession, nationalized gold holdings, and devalued the dollar. Bastards.

Australia, 1959 to 1975: Bankruptcy Act Amendment. The Australian gov’t restricted gold ownership by prohibiting possession of gold bullion or coins.

United Kingdom (a.k.a. England, again), 1966 to 1979: Exchange Control Act of 1947 Amendment. The UK gov’t prohibited citizens from owning more than four gold coins or investing in gold.

India, 1968 to 1990: the Indian gov’t restricted private gold ownership and heavily regulated the gold industry.

France (again), 1945, 1968 to 1974: French gov’t implemented gold controls, limiting gold transactions and establishing a monopoly on gold trading.

South Africa, 1961 to 1994: During the apartheid era, the South African gov’t heavily regulated the gold market, controlling gold production and exports as a means of maintaining its economic dominance.

Italy, 1970s: the Italian gov’t imposed restrictions on gold trading and ownership, limiting purchases to small quantities. No doubt, the Vatican was excluded… far above any such restrictions or laws 😂

Russia (a.k.a. Soviet Union again), 1928 to 1993: Soviet gov’t monopolized gold trade, severely restricting private gold ownership and transactions.

Turkey, 1990s: Turkish gov’t imposed restrictions on gold trading and ownership, implementing strict import and export controls.

china, 2002: chineez gov’t partially relaxed gold trading restrictions, allowing citizens to purchase gold through select channels.

Venezuela, 2011: Venezuelan gov’t nationalized gold mines and limited gold trading, restricting access to gold for citizens.

United States (again), 2011 to the present: Expansion of bogus Anti-Money Laundering Regulations – AML regulations extended to gold dealers, increasing compliance burden and reducing anonymity.

India (again), 2016 to the present: Indian gov’t disrupted cash-based gold market and increased taxes on gold imports/trading.

Europeeing Union, 2021 to the present: AMLD5 extended the bogus anti-money laundering regulations to cover precious metals, increasing reporting requirements. Gov’t officials are of course free to launder as much money as they want, under the traditional ‘rules for thee but not for me‘ memo of understanding.

Clearly seizure, confiscation and other ‘controls’ are a legitimate threat, due to the thieving nature of criminals who buy, beg or blow their way into positions of power.

So that’s not good.

But that still doesn’t answer why gold has been settled upon as a store of value, or ‘real money’.

Could it be due to scarcity, in addition to being fungible, somewhat divisible, portable, durable, transactable and somewhat difficult to counterfeit?

It is certainly possible to calculate the amount of time, effort (work), money, etc. it costs to dig up, refine and ultimately produce a commercially acceptable gold bar or coin. The current global mining industry average cost, or AISC (all-in sustaining costs) was US $1,315/oz in Q2 2023.

So the value (measured in debasing U.S. fiat currency units) is unlikely to go much below that amount for any significant length of time, because the miners would be less likely to sell below their production cost.

If the price of gold declined below their cost of production, they would shutter less profitable mines, supply would decrease, and if demand remained constant (or rose), price would once again increase.

But WHY, ultimately, was it decided that gold should be the ‘gold standard’ for a store of value or medium of exchange?

All of the reasons discussed already also apply to silver. The primary difference between silver and gold, from a scarcity standpoint, is that gold is something like 8 to 15 times more scarce than silver. Even though the current gold/silver ratio is totally out of whack, with gold currently priced at 83 times the value of silver.

Beyond scarcity, what else is there?

Could it be an unwritten social contract?

If you look at gold under an electron microscope, you won’t see dollar signs at the molecular level. There is no ‘inherent value’, absent what human beings attribute to it.

You can’t even eat it. If you set some gold down in front of animals, and also some food, the monkeys might play with the gold for a while, but all of the animals would eventually fight over the food. Gold has zero value to any animal besides humans.

So ultimately, gold is only useful as a medium of exchange and a store of value because people decided to use it for that purpose, and do so. It’s a tool.

We create our own reality (and tools) in all sorts of ways, including with gold.

People agree that gold has value, based on all of the factors above, and therefore markets exist to trade or exchange gold.

It’s PEOPLE who decide that some thing has value, based on a variety of factors, and then markets are created to determine the value of the thing, priced in fiat currency units.

People could decide that colored glass beads are a medium of exchange and a store of value (and have done so before).

Anything can be a medium of exchange and a store of value, so long as enough people agree to it, and in order for people to agree to it, ideally there should be reasons to agree to it, and at least one of those reasons should be scarcity — otherwise the Spanish will make tens of millions of glass beads for next to nothing, and trade them to you for all of your good stuff.

Bastards.

So where does that leave us?

Fiat currency is worthless, a complete and total con-artist’s game, that only works because the People agree to keep playing along. For now.

Gold and silver have various characteristics which provide reasons for people to decide to use them as mediums of exchange and stores of value. But they don’t have any inherent value in and of themselves, at least not in the sense that you can derive any direct benefit from them, like eating them.

If life has inherent value, then an apple has inherent value, because an apple can directly sustain your life for a while, if you consume it.

Gold can’t do that. Gold is just a tool that can be exchanged for an apple (preferably a bunch of them), which you can then consume.

Just about every aspect or characteristic of gold also applies to Bitcoin, and for many of them (e.g., divisibility, transactability, immutability, verifiability, portability, etc.), Bitcoin is actually better.

Bitcoin is also more scarce.

The earth will never run out of gold, and so long as the price makes the effort worth it, people will explore, discover, mine and produce whatever amount of gold is needed to satisfy demand.

But with Bitcoin, there will only ever be 21 million Bitcoins mined, and that’s it. At present, about 19 of the 21 million have already been mined, and of those 19 million, an estimated 4 to 5 million have been lost.

Gold has in inexhaustible supply, the only caveat is that the price of gold in U.S. currency fiat has to be high enough to make digging gold out of the ground worth the effort.

Fiat currency units have an infinite supply.

Bitcoin has a fixed supply. Even if the price of Bitcoin in U.S. currency fiat goes to $1 Billion per coin, or $100 Billion per coin, all the Bitcoin miners in the world, combined, can only produce 900 Bitcoins per month, at present.

And in April 2024, the amount that Bitcoin miners can produce is cut in half, it drops to 450 Bitcoins mined per month, world wide. No matter how high the price goes, the supply is capped.

In 2028, the supply will drop to 225 Bitcoins mined per month, world wide.

Bitcoin only gets more scarce as time goes on.

If the Bitcoin spot ETFs are approved between now and January 10th, that will be a signal to the entire planet that Bitcoin is a new mainstream asset class in world finance.

Bitcoin has traded on exchanges since 2009.

Bitcoin already trades on the Futures markets in the U.S. since 2021.

Bitcoin spot ETFs already trade in other countries (e.g., Canada and some European nations, and elsewhere).

But the 800Lb. gorilla is still the USA.

The global financial system is dominated by the USA, because the world reserve fiat currency unit is still the U.S. dollar.

So in the world of consensus, in a world where People need to agree that some thing is a store of value or a medium of exchange in order for that reality to manifest, it makes a big difference whether the USA is part of that consensus.

It makes a difference whether Wall Street says something is a store of value, and whether the U.S. gov’t regulators and courts agree.

By January, if approved, Bitcoin spot ETFs will be traded on the U.S. stock exchanges.

It will be the U.S. worldwide stamp of approval.

It legitimizes Bitcoin as a new mainstream asset class.

We don’t have to accept it or believe it. It doesn’t even have to make sense to us.

But enough other people will believe and accept it, to support a global market with enough liquidity for large institutional investors.

Technically, that situation already exists, based on Bitcoin spot ETFs available in other countries.

What the major institutional investors and sovereign wealth funds are waiting for is the USA’s stamp of approval, along with the just recently revised FASB accounting rules, and other U.S. regulatory clarity.

That stamp of approval, in the form of at least 12 Bitcoin spot ETFs, is expected to arrive on or before Wednesday, January 10th, 2024.

They could pull a fast one, and kick the approval can down the road, but ultimately, they can’t stop it. By blocking it, all they do is hurt Americans and help those who embrace this new store of value abroad.

Whether the SEC approves the Bitcoin spot ETFs by January 10th or not, the halving is coming in April 2024, regardless.

Global Bitcoin supply will be cut in half.

It’s not far away, it’s close.

Public awareness and interest is higher now than it has ever been.

So we’ll see what happens 👍🙂

kalbokalbs

Not defending fiat currencies.

Appreciate the read.

scott467

It was fun to write it 😁

Talking these things through helps me to organize my own thoughts, make sure I know why I think what I do (so I can defend it to myself), and hopefully refine or improve my own thesis 👍

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scott467

“Interesting; thank you. Bitcoin is so foerign to me that I would feel very vulnerable if I got involved.”

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I understand completely, I was in the same position not very long ago.

Michael Saylor (founder of MicroStrategy who has also become one of the most prominent proponents for Bitcoin) says it takes about 100 hours, on average, to really get it.

I’m not sure how he came up with that figure, but based on my own experience, understanding the basics, the principles involved, doesn’t take long at all, maybe an hour or less. Maybe 10 minutes or less. I could probably compress it down to an ‘elevator pitch’ length, because it’s not complicated.

Any presentation that short would necessarily leave a lot of gaps, provoking a lot of questions, but questions are good and the answers are easy, they just take more time to answer than you could squeeze into an elevator pitch.

I’m no expert by any stretch, it’s just that the basic principles involved are not really that complicated. The technical aspects of how it works, from an engineering or computer programming level are complicated and beyond my knowledge level, but it’s not necessary to understand that stuff (unless one is interested, of course), in the same way that you don’t need to be a mechanic in order to own and use a car.

Just like you don’t have to understand how a microwave works in order to warm up your food. You just push some buttons and hit ‘Start’, and it works 😁

I think a lot of the ‘time’ aspect has to do with reorienting oneself to something new, and the implications of it, once you understand the basics. That is what takes time to process.

Pretty soon, it begins to come into focus. The term I see some people use is “the penny dropped”, or the light bulb went on over their head, etc. Once you have enough basic information, your mind naturally connects the dots, and you have your “ah ha!” moment.

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“I think it would take a lot of study and research to get up to speed, but I will keep my eyes open.”

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It’s not a chore to learn about, it’s really very interesting, the kind of thing that constantly gets your wheels spinning, thinking about the possibilities.

If you want to learn about it, I would buy one share of GBTC, looks like it closed at $35.83 yesterday, so not expensive. If it goes to zero, the most you can lose is about $36, so nothing to feel vulnerable about.

GBTC is the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust, which is seeking approval from the SEC to be converted into a Bitcoin spot ETF.

Even if it’s just one share, you are more likely to pay attention to it, it will be on your radar, or listed on your ‘Stock Holdings’ page if you have an online broker account with Schwab, Fidelity, etc.

You’ll notice if it suddenly jumps in value, and your natural curiosity will make you want to know why.

Pretty soon, right down the rabbit hole you go, and there’ll be no stopping you 👍😁

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I know people who ran up their credit cards in the early 00s, expecting “it” to happen any day now.

The good news is gold was quite cheap then. The bad news is the debt surely wasn’t.

If they had been right about the timing, though; they’d have made out like bandits, possibly paying off their cards with ONE gold coin sold after the inflation began.

The problem is I’ve been hearing this stuff since the late 1970s and lived through the boom (and thudding crash)) at that time. So i didn’t join them in that endeavor.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very biased (shows almost entirely Ukrainian victories, not Russian ones), but still a good look at there the battle lines have been located in Ukraine.

Scrolling slowly makes the maps move and change.

https://www.ft.com/content/4351d5b0-0888-4b47-9368-6bc4dfbccbf5

cthulhu
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The hormones are a growth business for Planned Neuterhood!

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TheseTruths

💰💰💰

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. The best active measures are self-funding.

Valerie Curren

Demons!   :wpds_mad: 

Gail Combs

Funded by Title X of the US government.

Valerie Curren

Taxpayers should not be forced to participate, even obliquely, via funding  😡 

Gail Combs

Read my Depop series. That is not the worst of it. USAID is ALL ABOUT DEPOPULATION!!!

The President’s Fiscal Year (FY) 2022 Budget Request for the State Department and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) is $58.5 billion, which includes $27.7 billion for USAID fully and partially managed accounts, $2.9 billion (11 percent) above the FY 2021 enacted level.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THIS is how to manhandle MSM urinalists.

Happy go lucky

That barely suppressed smile around 0:56 😂

Gail Combs

SNICKER
I really like this guy.

MORE:

https://nitter.net/McfarlaneGlenda/status/1714333773939048639#m

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TheseTruths

Robert Barnes’ perspective on the Colorado ballot:

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very interesting.

TheseTruths

Attor­ney Gen­er­al Ken Pax­ton Secures Injunc­tion Stop­ping Biden Admin­is­tra­tion from Destroy­ing Vital Bor­der Barriers

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has won an injunction pending appeal against the Biden administration, preventing the federal government from continuing to destroy concertina wire barriers placed by Texas in response to the historic invasion of unvetted foreign aliens into the state. 

Previously, despite recognizing that the federal government had failed to enforce existing immigration law, a federal district court concluded that the Biden Administration enjoyed sovereign immunity. The judge allowed Border Patrol agents to resume the destruction of Texas-owned barriers. Attorney General Paxton immediately appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, which concluded that the federal government was not immune from suit and enjoined Biden’s border agents from damaging, destroying, or otherwise interfering with Texas’s concertina wire fence while the issue continues to be litigated. 

“I am very pleased the appellate court has forbidden federal agents sent by the Biden administration from destroying our concertina wire fences,” said Attorney General Paxton. “Given the ongoing disaster at the southern border due to the federal government’s intentional actions, more than ever it is necessary to take every step we can to hold the line. I will continue to fight against the Biden administration’s radical policies and work to make Texas a safer, more secure place to live.”

The Office of the Attorney General and co-counsel the Texas Public Policy Foundation will continue defending Texans from the dangerous consequences of the Biden administration’s open borders policies.

To read the injunction, click here.

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TheseTruths

The Constitution, Article IV:

Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

And if the United States doesn’t protect the states from invasion, then what? I know there must be case law about this. I’m wondering if there is going to be a showdown about who has the power over immigration: the federal government or the states.

Gail Combs

So far the US Courts have ruled ‘Suck it up buttercup’

However there is this.

“….Since the ratification of the present U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Supreme Court and all lower courts have had many opportunities to construe and apply this clause of the Constitution. The essence of all these decisions manifests a legal principle that   :wpds_arrow: the States of this nation have exclusive jurisdiction of property and persons located within their borders, excluding such lands and persons residing thereon which have been ceded to the United States.
[That would indicate that once on STATE LAND, the state has jurisdiction over the illegal.]

Perhaps one of the earliest decisions on this point was United States v. Bevans, 16 U.S. (3 Wheat.) 336 (1818), which involved a federal prosecution for a murder committed on board the Warship, Independence, anchored in the harbor of Boston, Massachusetts. The defense complained that only the state had jurisdiction to prosecute this crime and argued that the federal circuit courts had no jurisdiction of this crime supposedly committed within the federal government’s admiralty jurisdiction. In argument before the Supreme Court, counsel for the United States admitted as much:

  • “The exclusive jurisdiction which the United States have in forts and dock-yards ceded to them, is derived from the express assent of the states by whom the cessions are made. It could be derived in no other manner; because without it, the authority of the state would be supreme and exclusive therein,” Id., at 350-51.

In holding that the State of Massachusetts had jurisdiction over this crime, the Supreme Court of the United States held:

  • “What, then, is the extent of jurisdiction which a state possesses?
  • “We answer, without hesitation, the jurisdiction of a state is co-extensive with its territory; co-extensive with its legislative power,” Id., at 386-87.
  • “The article which describes the judicial power of the United States is not intended for the cession of territory or of general jurisdiction… Congress has power to exercise exclusive jurisdiction over this district, [Washington, D.C.] and over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dock-yards, and other needful buildings.

“It is observable that the power of exclusive legislation (which is jurisdiction) is united with cession of territory, which is to be the free act of the states. It is difficult to compare the two sections together, without feeling a conviction, not to be strengthened by any commentary on them, that, in describing the judicial power, the framers of our constitution had not in view any cession of territory; or, which is essentially the same, of general jurisdiction,” Id., at 388.

  :wpds_arrow: The Supreme Court in Bevans thus established a principle that federal jurisdiction extends only over the areas [of land within the states] wherein it possesses the power of exclusive legislation, and this is a principle incorporated into all subsequent decisions regarding the extent of federal jurisdiction. To hold otherwise would destroy the purpose, intent and meaning of the entire U.S. Constitution….”

https://johnhenryhill.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/everything-you-know-about-the-united-states-and-its-laws-is-wrong-the-united-states-is-not-the-united-states-of-america/

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“The Constitution is NOT neutral. It was designed to take the government off the backs of the people.” William O. Douglas, Associate Justice, U.S. Supreme Court

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Camel returns!   :wpds_shock:    :wpds_grin: 

cthulhu
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gail Combs
Gail Combs

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MY ANSWER:

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I had some ASSHOLE biker Tell me HE owned the road while stopped in front of my driveway.

I informed him I OWNED TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD and ALLOWED the towv right of way to pave the road. Since I and my neighbors OWNED the land the town had to get our permission.

scott467

They’re crazy. I wouldn’t even use the bike lane, the way people drive today.

When we were kids and rode our bikes everywhere (no helmets! 😁), we were hyper vigilant to stay out of the way of cars. We had to assume that the driver of a car didn’t see us, and ride accordingly. That’s the only way you were going to survive, is to stay out of their way. There is no other option.

It was never about who had the right of way, that was irrelevant. It was about whether you wanted to go home for dinner later that day, or whether you wanted to go to the morgue 😂

This was decades before people were texting while driving, or whatever it is that most people do when they should be paying attention to the road.

We rode BMX type bikes. We rode on the sidewalks and through yards all the time. The sidewalk was the bike path. On the rare occasion someone was walking on the sidewalk, they had the right of way and we just rode around them through the grass on one side or the other. That system worked fine.

When we rode in the street, it was only on side streets where there was practically no car traffic.

The only time we ever rode on a main thoroughfare (35mph zone) was to cross it, from one side street to another side street on the other side of the main street.

Because it doesn’t matter who has ‘right of way’, if you get run over by a 3,000+ Lbs. vehicle 😂

Gail Combs

That is and was my point of view.

The ARROGANCE of these idiots has made me a LOT LESS WILLING to grant them much ‘right of way’…. And I am NOT a drunk redneck driving a monster mudder. 😆 

cthulhu

Whenever I’m out and about, I endeavor to never argue with the laws of physics. You seldom end up with a positive outcome.

Particularly the importance of “m” in “F = ma”.

scott467

Maybe the helmets make them feel invincible?

I’ll never know.

I’ve never worn one.

And I never will 😁

Gail Combs

I think the helmets cook their brains.

Given the idiocy I have seen, we get bike clubs of 50 – 100 riders on windy, hilly roads with no shoulders, I will GUARANTEE there have been MASS casualty events that have never made the news.

Heck my husband was knocked unconscious in one biking accident, his brother lost a leg on another and a caving buddy had his motorcycle DELIBERATELY run off a mountain road. He was very lucky to come out of the accident alive.

Notable Statistics:

  • Just over 1,000 people were killed in bicycle accidents in 2018.
  • Over 300,000 people in 2018 ended up in the emergency room for bicycle accidents.
pat frederick

my son used to ride his bike to work every day and always followed the rules and stayed on the shoulder. one afternoon he was struck by a tractor trailer and flew in the air quite a distance. the driver was going to flee the scene, but other drivers saw the hit and blocked his path.
my son was in the process of training for an ironman competition and suffered a cracked vertebrae near his pelvis and a dislocated shoulder.
he fought hard and long and competed and finished his ironman race the following year. it took him almost 14 hours to do it, but he wanted to prove something to himself.
not all bikers are jerks.

Gail Combs

That is certainly a good description of the idiots I have talked to.

Gail Combs

I also commuted using a bike. Unfortunately Biking has been taken over by the WOKE crowd who have ZERO common sense and NO ROAD MANNERS!

I am very much afraid these asses on bikes will leave me with three choices:

  1. Head on with a semi-logging truck doing 60 mph
  2. Down into a ravine and into a tree @ 55 mph
  3. wipe out a bunch of bikers.

I am NOT interested in committing suicide and injuring/killing my ponies…

And I highly resent being forced to even THINK of that scenario because some bike club with 50 members is taking up over 50 ft X 6 ft of a windy twisty road.

I run into this problem with herds of bikers several times a month BTW. So far I have not been forced to kill/injure anyone.

pat frederick

i understand totally.
just wanted to present an opposing viewpoint. for the most part he still bikes on his days off–he says there are several beautiful bike trails designed strictly for that purpose.

Gail Combs

That is what kills me. NC has nearby bike trails!

American Tobacco Trail

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Gail Combs

I see four to six abreast in 10 rows or more ALL THE TIME on my road and the back country roads I travel.
This has a lot more shoulder then road I am thinking of. I saw 4 or 5 semis over turn in 2020. (lots of new drivers in logging trucks)

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TheseTruths

not all bikers are jerks.

Right. I know a woman who lives in small-town-America who rode her bike everywhere until she was struck by a car and had serious injuries. She spent weeks in the hospital and had multiple broken bones. She was just going about her business.

cthulhu

OK, we’ve got two types of bikers — jerks and casualties….

Gail Combs

We have jerks on bikes and jerks in cars. Biking (or jogging) on roads traveled by cars — ESPECIALLY WITH THE LARGE INFLUX OF ILLEGALS — is just not safe anymore.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Sometimes we get lucky, and a jerk becomes a casualty.

eilert
Gail Combs

  :wpds_grin: 

Amazing how FAST the psyops are getting debunks now.

Thanks Viva Frei!

para59r
Valerie Curren

I don’t know who this guy is but, fwiw, I think he might have ADHD (living w/ 4 diagnosed you can sort of see the signs)…here’s about how our household kinda “works” LOL

Happy go lucky

”I feel life running around inside me like a squirrel” 😂

It’s true, though. My brain is like a squirrel on crack sometimes.

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Valerie Curren

My husband uses the phrase “squirrels playing racquetball in my head” with some regularity LOL

“Look squirrel” was coined for my family!

eilert

Meanwhile in Australia:

Gail Combs

Those are the crocs I want to turn loose in the Rio Grande.

pat frederick

see? another GREAT idea…LOL

Gail Combs

They go well with the schools of Piranha I want to introduce as well as bull sharks. They are not just the most dangerous freshwater fish; they are the most dangerous of all fish. 

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Fifty people hurt in Brazilian piranha attacks as droughts force killer fish to hunt for food in waters packed with tourists

Valerie Curren

remind me to Always stay on your good side!  😮 

Gail Combs

Never piss off a scientist/chemist. We are inventive by nature.  :wpds_wink: 

Cuppa Covfefe

Favorite chemical is Ba 😆

Valerie Curren

Barium enema?

Gail Combs

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cthulhu

Isn’t there supposed to be a third picture of a black sheep?

Gail Combs

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cthulhu

What type of sheep are those? Is it normal for both males and females to have horns?

(I was thinking Black Welsh Mountain Sheep, but normally the females are polled.)

pat frederick

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eilert

We still are allowed to have some fun and laughs:

pat frederick

Charlotte99
December 20, 2023 6:09 am

REVEALED: Four Democrat-picked Colorado justices who booted Trump off the ballot are Ivy League scholars, a gay icon and a jazz musician Legal experts warn they’ve lit a fuse under America’s democracy
RACE FAKER Monica Marquez; The Rachel Dolezal Of The Colorado Supreme Court According to inside sources “She hides the fact her mother is white and her father of European Spanish background.” Openly gay
NAMED AND SHAMED Melissa Hart Voted To Kill Democracy Openly Leftist Harvard Grad
NAMED AND SHAMED Richard L. Gabriel Voted To Kill Democracy Leftist New Yorker Pretending To Be A Coloradan
NAMED AND SHAMED William W. Hood III Voted To Kill Democracy Virginia leftist pretending to be a Coloradan

pat frederick

interesting perspective…from tcth

sDee
December 20, 2023 7:44 am

Anyone else notice that the Uniparty(R) wasted no time decrying the CO decision? They are lining up to support Trump – their most hated enemy.
Poof, just like that, the DC cabal has legislation waiting in the wings to stop the “outrageous” (non) decision by the Colorado Supreme Court. Smell at rat?
The Colorado decision looks like yet another set up to usurp State power and effectively end free elections.
Create a crisis, then use it to strip the American people of even more of our rights. That’s how we got the Patriot Act.
Of course it is a Republican, Richard Burr the Second, leading the charge to strip our rights, again !
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Sen. Tillis to Introduce Legislation Barring Federal Funds From States ‘misusing’ 14th Amendment
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-tillis-introduce-legislation-barring-013614752.html
Democrat or Republican – can you tell the difference?

Gail Combs

Brillian minds think alike. 😜 

TradeBait2

Pay attention to the Justin Deschamps’ comments in the Badlands news brief of today that DePat will probably bring here tomorrow. It relates to PDT, Swarmy and Colorado. Remember – free will.

Gail Combs

This is the URL
https://badlands.substack.com/p/badlands-news-brief-c74

near the beginning is:
In my opinion, President Trump’s lawyers in the case  👉 have not argued effectively against the January 6 narrative 👈  — so much so that I hope the President changes horses before SCOTUS. The insurrection ruling must be overturned, or progressive courts — like those in Colorado — will take this a whole lot further.

If you want to know where your 2024 election surprises are going to come from, take a look at Colorado. There’s a lot of moves being made to weaponize the government against its political opponents.” — Ashe in America

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Trump the GRAND STRATEGIST

He is going to keep his powder dry until he sees the whites of their eyes IN THE SUPREME COURT!

Fox News: Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Trump from 2024 ballot

The Colorado Supreme Court has disqualified former President Trump from appearing on the state’s ballots in 2024.

The disqualification, which was made under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, is related to the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021….

“The Colorado Supreme Court has ruled that Donald Trump is barred from the Colorado ballot for inciting the January 6 insurrection and attempting to overturn the 2020 Presidential Election.

Special Interview – Peter Ticktin & Isilio Arriaga – (These are two of POTUS Trump’s classmates from military High school.)

@ 20 minutes Peter Ticktin who is a lawyer for Trump says:
for nine months I was marchialing evidence regarding Jan 6th for the President…. Jan 6th was NOT what anyone thinks it was. I mean I have tapes from an inflitrator of a group of government people who were meeting on Zoom and planning jan 6th 6 months before the election.

https://rumble.com/v41tpsk-badlands-media-special-interview-peter-ticktin-and-isilio-arriaga.html

Gail Combs
singingsoul1

The ALCU Jay Seculow is representing the Colorado GOP before the Supreme Court in this matter.

Cuppa Covfefe

ACLJ… He’s really good, and a good man…

Valerie Curren

Yes!

eilert

WATCH: Following the news last night that the Colorado Supreme Court has disqualified President Trump from being on the GOP primary ballot, Dave Williams @RepDaveWilliams, the chairman of the Colorado GOP @cologop came on my show to react. 

He told the Colorado Supreme Court “Go F*ck yourself” and told me that now the Colorado GOP is going to take a vote to endorse President Trump before the GOP primary in light of this unprecedented ELECTION INTERFERENCE

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Aubergine

Ok, guys, this Colorado keep Trump off the ballot thingy is the world’s BIGGEST and DUMBEST virtue signal!

This is utterly and completely HILARIOUS! Good on Sundance for reading the damned thing, and finding this:

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/19/the-colorado-supreme-court-4-3-decision-is-pure-nonsense-and-can-be-laughed-at-they-even-admit-it-on-page-9/

THIS EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES! LOLOLOLOL!

Laugh, go Christmas shopping, eat a nice lunch, and have a great day!

smiley2

a refresher course on an important subject that we’re all very familiar with…

this is an excellent detailed piece on the history and momentum of….

Collapsing The System on Purpose : The Cloward Piven Strategy

article link…

Collapsing the System on Purpose: The Cloward Piven Strategy | The Global Dispatch

aggressive organizers + the climate of militancy

👉crisis strategy”

highly recommended reading…some facts you might not have been aware of.

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Wednesday, December 20, 2023

“And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.” 

Philippians 4:7 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you for these. Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.

Valerie Curren

Even John Bolton gets it. “I think this Colorado Supreme Court decision is badly wrong for many reasons…I’d be willing to bet a small amount of money here that the Supreme Court, if it gets to the merits of this if it has to, will reverse.”

singingsoul1

Sunday is the Lords day we should not participate by purchasing on Sunday so others do not have to work. Never buy on Sunday. I remember a time when Saturday Noon all stores closed for the weekend. That was a gentler time and people had time for the Lord and family.

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Happy go lucky

Absolutely, we were just talking about this. It goes along with destruction of the family IMO, because a lot more moms were able to stay home and build families then. When both parents have to labor all week, it became hard to fit it all in before noon on Saturday, at least that seems to be the culturally accepted sentiment.

TheseTruths

Yes, and there are many other scenarios where people need access to supplies in stores at a moment’s notice. Caregivers can’t always predict what will be needed, accidents happen, emergencies come up that delay a planned trip to a store, etc.

Aubergine

Well, that’s definitely covered by this verse in Luke:

Luke 14:5 NKJV
Then He answered them, saying, “Which of you, having a donkey or an ox that has fallen into a pit, will not immediately pull him out on the Sabbath day?”

Valerie Curren

Amen!

Gail Combs

I remember when ALL stores were closed on Sunday except maybe gas stations. (Since I did not drive much till mid 70s, I am not sure.)

singingsoul1

That is how it begins and the Senate is to foolish or scared to do what is good for the country. Yes scared they know what is going to happen to them and the have no spine. Do they not know they will be the first on the chopping block when communism is irreversibly implemented across the government spectrum ?Trump and MAGA are standing in their way. We have more courage than the Congress combined. They have sold their soul and with that the country. We need to speak up louder email and phone them and when they come to our communities let them know what we think. The democrat club and republican club needs to be cleaned and patriots need to take their place. They are rotten from the bottom up.

Gail Combs

Why We Vote Ep. 56 – 5:00 PM ET
https://rumble.com/v422ole-why-we-vote-ep.-56-500-pm-et-.html

CanCon had some really interesting data @ 1:30:00 on Georgia 2020 election.

Pro V&V LIED there NEVER DID THE AUDIT THE SAID THEY DID! (No county in georgia had records of the Audit)Sec Brad Raffensburger LIED about the AUDIT.There were 250 KNOW issues of fraud BUT Raffensburger LIED to VP Pence and said ther were NONERaffensburgers letter to Congress had 42 FALSE STATEMENTSThe Equipment was NEVER CERTIFIED BEFORE THE ELECTION.It is well worth watching those seven minutes (Includes clip of presentation to Georgia State Election Board.)

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Valerie Curren

TY Gail!

Happy go lucky

I would have looked right at that and thought “that’s ugly” and walked on by 😂

Valerie Curren

Yeah, me too. Not my cup of tea & I’m rather penny-wise & pound foolish 😉

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Valerie Curren
pgroup2

Joy has arrived!   :wpds_mrgreen: 

Valerie Curren

(part of) all we wanted for Christmas!

Robert Baker

Next big question for the Speaker is: Do I join the Board of Directors of a media company, defense contractor, or lobby for a foreign government?

Valerie Curren

BQQM!

Gail Combs

Or prep my defense for coming indictments?

Aubergine

Don’t let the door hit your sorry ass on the way out, Kevin.

May we forget we ever knew you:

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
Samuel Adams

Happy go lucky

That action doesn’t make Warren look guilty at all, now does it 🙄 😂

Gail Combs

With luck his name will be on the 2024 released Epstein Client List.
  :wpds_wink: 

Valerie Curren

  :wpds_shock: 

Valerie Curren

TheseTruths

Well done.

Valerie Curren
pgroup2

That’s one way to get rid of businesses.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think she’s trying to collect them all.

Gail Combs

I am very very very glad I am not living in NY any more!

Valerie Curren

Hubby drove through upstate NY a couple years ago when visiting his brothers in NH & said he could sense the heavy oppression (spiritual) when he was within the NY borders  😮 

Gail Combs

Upstate used to be a lovely place. It is so sad what these Sons of Satan have done to our country.

The theft via the federal reserve was bad enough but they then had to use the wealth stolen from us to try and destroy us.

Dora

I can’t stand that woman!

At times I think I’d rather have Cuomo back.

Valerie Curren

Wow, that’s saying something!

Gail Combs

Do not forget a lot of the $$$ going into Blackrock and Vanguard are from pensions so people have no say on what happens to their money.

Gail Combs

AHHHHhhh RALPH BARIC! (from that article)

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Valerie Curren

Good catch, as always!

more from the article

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The National Institutes of Health (NIH), under Dr Anthony Fauci ‘s leadership, infected 12 Egyptian fruit bats with a ‘SARS-like’ virus called WIV1 sent from the Wuhan Institute of Virology at a lab in Montana in 2018

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Between 2015 and 2023, at least seven US entities supplied NIH grant money to labs in China performing animal experiments, totaling $3,306,061

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A new taxpayer-funded lab is being built in Colorado that will import bats from around the world and experiment on dangerous diseases, DailyMail.com can reveal. 

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Valerie Curren

Valerie Curren

I played this one for Hubby & he’d never seen or heard Shawn before!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is really bad stuff.

Valerie Curren

induced insanity–demonic!   :wpds_mad: 

& of course

“CFC received a $1 million donation from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in 2021.”

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Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm.

Seems to be a shortage of white boys in those pictures….

Agenda, anyone?

Cuppa Covfefe

First step toward MK…
😡 😡 😡 😡

Valerie Curren

This!   :wpds_evil: 

Gail Combs

Well that certainly explains all the cutters the child saw. (Comment originally from Wolfie)

Valerie Curren

Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

para59r

Interesting… Wikipedia seems to have watered down the entry for the Asiatic Vespers 88BC. Read it now and it seems like no big deal, the writing such leaves the impression that it took place over a prolonged period.

Using history function, jumps back to later dates in Wikipedia to see what was written.
From Asiatic Vespers under Massacre.

 “…He (Mithridates) convinced them to orchestrate the assassination of all Roman and Italian citizens in Asia Minor.[1] The massacre was planned scrupulously to take place on the same day in several towns scattered over Asia Minor: Ephesus, Pergamon, Adramyttion, Caunus, Tralles, Nysa, and the island of Chios.[2]

Estimates of the number of men, women, and children killed range from 80,000[3] to 150,000.[4] Slaves who helped to kill their Roman masters and those who spoke languages other than Latin were spared…

Ahhh.. older versions read better. Of course more details are available if you do your research. Anyway, wonders why they’d change this?

Valerie Curren

condemned to repeat it…

Gail Combs

Since WHEN does Mexico DICTATE TO TEXAS???

Robert Baker

I think it has been an ongoing dialogue since the 1830s.

Cuppa Covfefe

Obrador has no standing… nor do the refauxgees or ANY illegal aliens…

Valerie Curren

no words

Gail Combs

Run over his ass!

Cuppa Covfefe

Let his bike look like the wipers…

Valerie Curren

https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/bearing-one-anothers-burdens/

“But I do make a point to read the obituaries.  Specifically, I’ve been keeping track of people who have “died suddenly” or “died unexpectedly.”  There’s usually at least one in every obituary list.  A couple of months ago, there were six who “died suddenly and unexpectedly” within a week, just in my small town alone.  Some are in their 50s, 40s, 30s, and even younger.  Not all obituaries list the person’s occupation, but of those that do, all of them would have been places that mandated the shots in 2021.

I also look at the birth records.  Sadly, there’s an obituary report just about every day, with a half-dozen or more people who have passed away.  Birth reports only pop up maybe once a week at the most, and the list usually only has one or two babies born.  Even more telling is the parents’ names.  Rarely do the mothers and fathers have the same last name, which tells me that most of the births we do have today, are to people who are not married.”

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Valerie Curren

invaders

https://www.rightjournalism.com/video-unprecedented-crisis-unfolds-at-eagle-pass-as-thousands-of-illegal-aliens-await-processing-shocking-video-reveals-the-disturbing-reality-on-the-border-that-is-ignored-by-the-msm/#google_vignette

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Gail Combs

Collateral Estoppel is very important.

Collateral estoppel is an important doctrine in the fields of criminal law and civil procedure

In criminal law, collateral estoppel protects criminal defendants from being tried for the same issue in more than one criminal trial through the double jeopardy clause of the Fifth Amendment. As established in Benton v. Maryland, collateral estoppel is binding on both federal and state governments through incorporation by way of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment….

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/collateral_estoppel

Valerie Curren

applications in the ongoing, unconstitutional, “legal” assaults on Donald Trump?

Gail Combs

Yes. I am waiting for the insurrection charge to make it to the Supreme Court. I expect the mess to BLOW WIDE OPEN at that point.

Valerie Curren

Before the election???

Gail Combs

Yes, Colorado tossing Trump off the ballot has a deadline in January so the Supreme Court will hopefully hear that case ASAP.

Remember the Judge point blank RULED Trump was an insurrectionist and therefore was ineligible to be on the ballot. This was done WITHOUT an actual trial of Trump based on HEARSAY only.

Valerie Curren

It seems that the “justice” system is irreparably broken!  😡 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Valerie Curren

Gail Combs

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singingsoul1

A child should have a dog. My dog will not let anyone come through the gate even if he knows them. My son told me that is dangerous he did not let my son get through the gate. The dog lets anyone in the house if I open the front door and invite them. Big difference. I do have to big signs on the garden gates to be aware of the dog.
My kids had a dog and went with them even to the play ground. He protected all the kids never bit anyone but adults would not pet him he looked fierce.

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Gail Combs

I had dogs growing up. I even had a horse who hated men.  🤓 

Robert Baker

QUESTION: Did your horse hate all men or just white men?

Gail Combs

ALL men. He had been a race horse and I think he had been beaten.

pgroup2

Take down your signs. If the dog ever bites or hurts someone, those signs prove that you knew the dog was dangerous.

Gail Combs

Good advice.

Lock your gates instead.

singingsoul1

Good idea. Dog is not out much most of the time when we are out.

cthulhu

I like locking the gates at each horizontal cross-brace (typically 2, near top and bottom). A lot of crooks think they can just bust the latch.

singingsoul1

I thought I had to warn people that there is a dog was suggested by insurance guy. Something to think off.

cthulhu

There may be some “magic words” involved. For example, “Warning — Dog Inside — Do NOT Leave Gate Open”.

That lets people know that there is a dog inside but makes no representation that the dog is potentially vicious.

singingsoul1

Good idea 🙂
My dog is a house dog and I let him out when he has to go. He goes out with us when we do yard work. The house is on a hill and one has to walk 12 steps up from the sidewalk to get to the gate. We have a fence and privacy fence and a stone wall around the bottom of the hill. No one comes up that way in the back unless it is family who come twice a year the most. Workers call before they come and I put the dog in his crate. People come to the front door if i do not know them do not open the door. My dog is a love and listens when I tell him it is OK. He is professionally trained since he was 6 months old. I know he will guard us if someone comes in the breaks of the night into the house. He is a Coonhound- Staff mix. Putting a lock on the gates would be good.

Valerie Curren

1,000,000%

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

DUDE is a sneaky predator. He disarms the boys by being a fake woman.

EVIL.

Valerie Curren

https://rairfoundation.com/game-changer-indias-fight-against-demographic-jihad-assam/

Game-Changer in India’s Fight Against Demographic Jihad: Assam Passes 2024 Law Banning Polygamy, Muslims Enraged (Video) – Rair Foundation

Valerie Curren

Robert Baker

Something evil is slouching toward Fairfax County. Paul’s comment about not fighting against flesh and blood comes to mind. The level of Christian persecution is going to accelerate.

Valerie Curren

screaming demons loud & proud  😡 

singingsoul1

Protect yourself from them not to carry their energy with you home.

Valerie Curren

Amen!

Aubergine

I’m still wearing a cross every day. I’ve amassed a collection 🙂

singingsoul1

I have seen lately more people men and women wearing a cross openly.

Valerie Curren

Praise the Lord!

Gail Combs

Yes, Christians are FINALLY waking up and starting to fight back. (Peacefully)

Gail Combs

It is EXHAUSTING to pork so many Fairfax grade school children.

Valerie Curren

Yikes   :wpds_envy: 

Gail Combs

Any bets he will eventually be found with kiddie porn AT MINIMUM or child rape?

Valerie Curren

unrestrained, unrepentant evil unleashed 🙁

Gail Combs

His arrogance will be his downfall. Hopefully the parents are monitoring their kids very carefully.

Aubergine

If he touched a Bible to be sworn in, he would probably have spontaneously combusted.

Valerie Curren

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eye bleach offspring

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pgroup2

Sorbo and Woods are national treasures.

Valerie Curren

Yes!

Valerie Curren

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Please

It’s funny that ‘they’ exhibit the same behaviors that they claim were perpetrated on by the worst of ‘whitefolk’.

They are emulating the worst of ‘whitefolk’ behavior, and in doing so knowingly and proudly makes them on very shaky moral ground.

I guess just file under ‘woke’…

Valerie Curren

Yep, but under certain leftist theories they cannot be racist if they are of a traditionally oppressed group, which may not apply to the Boston mayor…

Gail Combs

The Chinese are the most Racist people in the world AND the most plentiful. They are certainly NOT a minority.

Valerie Curren

They are not a minority in the world but probably are considered one in the US at this point. They were historically heavily discriminated against here, like in the West during the gold rush & rail road building era, iirc…

Gail Combs

WHAT IS WITH THE CHINESE POLITICIANS???

Is she CCP? ( daughter of Taiwanese immigrants)

Kenny Xu was born to Chinese immigrant parents in Maryland. He is running for Congress (North Carolina 13th district)
https://www.kennyxuforcongress.com/pages/bio

Valerie Curren

Well since their viceroy (‘s puppet) has been installed why hide it anymore  😡 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Kenny Xu has ratted out a LOT of communist crap in America. If he’s CCP, he’s got the most amazing cover. He ratted out Merrick Garland’s son in law and Facebook over “social emotional learning”.

Gail Combs

Thanks, I feel more comfortable having to vote for him.

I was thinking of China’s law that ALL Chinese must spy for the CCP when asked…

“Not enough can be said about the insidious and pervasive power of China’s National Intelligence Law, which came into effect in July 2017.
This may be one of the reasons that Communist Party legal authorities are attempting to defend the law in the international media….

Article 7 of the law, Gu writes, creates the “obligation of Chinese citizens to support national intelligence work.”…

Tanner lays out the case that the National Intelligence Law is designed to turn a Chinese citizen’s “legal obligations from intelligence ‘defense’ to ‘offense’…”
He writes,

The Intelligence Law… repeatedly obliges individuals, organizations, and institutions to assist Public Security and State Security officials in carrying out a wide array of “intelligence” work. Article Seven stipulates that “any organization or citizen shall support, assist, and cooperate with state intelligence work according to law.”

Article 14, in turn, grants intelligence agencies authority to insist on this support…
https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-real-danger-of-chinas-national-intelligence-law/

I am not sure what the status of his parents is and what CHINA thinks the status is.

Valerie Curren

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holly

pgroup2

If VZ is smart, he’ll abdicate and move to Miami before somebody whacks him.

Gail Combs

Russia is very good at whacking people outside of Russia.

Valerie Curren

unexpected aubergine

Afterwards, the penis usually resembles an ‘aubergine’, turning purple and swollen.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12885513/doctors-say-likely-fracture-penis-Christmas.html?ico=related-replace

purple even 😉

pgroup2

ROTFLMAO.  😂 

Only you could find that.

Valerie Curren

LOL I was Not looking for it…it was a (clickbait) thumbnail at DM & I’m like how is it possible to Fracture the member???

cthulhu

There is, of course, a well-known proclivity for males to stick it just about anywhere….which reminds me of a sad tale with a warning attached.

It seems that a young man was fired from his job at a deli because he kept sticking it in the pickle-slicer….because the manager had previously thought that he had an exclusive thing with her (the pickle-slicer).

Valerie Curren

Oh my goodness–just wow. I read about the perv who liked to join with his picnic table through the umbrella stand hole but it got stuck & he needed assistance w/ the extraction, perhaps from the fire department   :wpds_shock:    :wpds_envy:    :wpds_lol: 

Valerie Curren

You’ve pretty much now re-defined “the pickle tickle”–yuk…what alleged restaurant has this disturbing behavior occurred at so we can avoid it at all costs!

cthulhu

*Ahem* The deli had a young, female, human, full-time employee whose job it was to slice pickles.

Valerie Curren

uh huh…

Valerie Curren

Hubby had to explain this to me–duh! LOL

cthulhu

I endeavor to occasionally provide amusement to people actually on the blog, and also your husband.

Valerie Curren

It’s appreciated. We were cracking up on that one for a bit 🙂

Aubergine

Well, Eggplant Parmesan is off MY menu for a while!

Valerie Curren

Bwah ha ha

cthulhu

Cannibalism!!!

Aubergine

Lol!

I’ll never look at my homemade ratatouille the same way again!

barkerjim

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PAVACA

h/t Marica’s blog—
The Confederate memorial at Arlington National Cemetery was removed today after a judge lifted the restraining order.

Valerie Curren

history denying psychopaths!

para59r

So question remains, what’s to become of the statue? Will it end up sitting in some unknown dark warehouse forever and some when people would offer it a new home? That is the likely bet as we are left guessing since no news story addresses such directly though they get close…

Today, From NPR (they just outright lie).

Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin, who disagrees with the decision to remove the memorial, made arrangements for it to be moved to land owned by the Virginia Military Institute at New Market Battlefield State Historical Park in the Shenandoah Valley.

Today, From CNN

Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin has voiced his disappointment in the removal plans, according to his spokesperson Macaulay Porter. The governor planned to relocate it to the New Market Battlefield State Historical Park in the Shenandoah Valley, Porter said.

Dec 11. From some podunk insider WA DC paper. (they seem gleeful as they outline the likely outcome…)

Massive monument to falsified Confederate history soon to leave Arlington

Governor Glenn Youngkin, who opposed relocating the statue, arranged to move it to New Market Battlefield in the Shenandoah Valley, 112 miles west of Arlington. The Board of Virginia Military Institute (VMI), which operates the battlefield, unanimously agreed to accept the Arlington statue in September. Nevertheless, staff at Arlington National Cemetery and VMI were reticent to confirm that New Market would be the statue’s destination. Robert Quackenbush, Arlington National Cemetery’s Deputy Chief of Staff, confirmed that the statue would be removed by January 1, but told me the Army will not determine its final disposition until after consultation with Virginia historic preservation agencies and compliance with environmental requirements. Quackenbush said the Army awarded a $3 million contract to remove the statue from Arlington.

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Gail Combs

From Twitchy
Moms Demand LOON Losing Her Mind Over Toy Gun Display in Sporting Goods Store Goes HILARIOUSLY Wrong

“…In a world where the #1 killer of children is gun violence, they are definitely on the wrong side of history, and common sense, in marketing this “toy”…”

GEE, here I thought the US government was the Number One killer of kids.

CDC data show over 118,000 U.S. children died suddenly after covid jab rollout

CDC: drug overdose deaths among persons aged 10–19 years (N = 2,231)
In 2019, before the coronavirus pandemic, there were 1,732 gun deaths among U.S. children and teens under the age of 18. By 2021, that figure had increased to 2,590.
(32% are suicide.)

Guns leading cause of death for American children, CDC says

(LIE MUCH???)

The number of children and teens killed by gunfire in the United States increased 50% between 2019 and 2021. THANKS BIDEN!

I do like graphs (from PEW)

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Valerie Curren

I think Abortion is the number one killer w/ roughly 1/3 of all kids killed before birth  😡 

Gail Combs

That too.

Cuppa Covfefe

Guess the beyotch can’t read…

It says plainly on the package “Miniature Toy”… And it’s far too small, and likely Cheap Chinese $hit, so wouldn’t work anyway…

Only the left are so stupid that they cannot tell fantasy (e.g. toys) from reality…

Our vice-Kanzler, Habeck, supposedly having business development as one of his portfolios, is a fairy-tale WRITER… In real life, he’s causing businesses to leave Germany at an ever-increasing rate. The rest of us here (“langhierbliebende” or “BioDeutsche” 🙂 ) are stuck paying for it all… 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

Robert Baker

Welcome to democracy where everyone votes but no one counts

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WHOA – THAT’S EXACTLY WHEN BLACK CRIME WAS LEGALIZED!

Gail Combs

YUP!

And the kids killed are mostly BLACK.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. GANG MURDERS are what make the difference. SOROS prosecutors have allowed the pot to boil over.

gil00

CA getting in line to remove Trump.
Cannot do it. Cannot.

https://x.com/ccadelago/status/1737538069505745356?s=20

Valerie Curren

hope it shows as a twitter link

gil00

👍

Gail Combs

50 states fifty challenges = LAWFARE they did this to Sarah Palin. She finally had to give up the governorship of Alaska

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m wondering if we need to begin doing the same to EVERY Democrat on the ballot. Go after past crimes, association with known criminals, etc. Just challenge every one until they realize that the game works against them, too.

COMMUNIST ASSOCIATIONS would be great.

TradeBait2

It is exactly what should be done. Legal prosecution and disclosure.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

So you’re going after them on the basis of their major qualification for nomination (commie associations).

COOL.

gil00

It cannot be allowed.

TheseTruths

LGBT Catholics: Vatican Opening to Gay Blessings a ‘Huge Step Forward’

ROME — Pro-LGBT Catholics like Jesuit Father James Martin have lauded the Vatican’s allowance of blessings for gay couples as “a huge step forward.”

Monday’s Vatican declaration “will long be remembered by LGBTQ people,” writes Father Martin, since it “opens the door, for the first time, for the official blessings of same-sex couples by ministers of the church.”

In his essay, Father Martin addresses and corrects the impression by some well-meaning Catholics that “nothing has changed.”

“But a great deal has in fact changed,” the priest notes. “Before this document was issued, there was no permission for bishops, priests and deacons to bless couples in same-sex unions in any setting. This document establishes, with some limitations, that they can.”

While these blessings were already widespread in German-speaking countries, Martin notes, the change here is “that these blessings are now officially sanctioned by the Vatican.”

“Today, with some limitations, I can perform a public blessing of a same-sex couple. Yesterday, I could not,” he concludes.

For his part, Francis DeBernardo, executive director of the dissident “Catholic” LGBT group New Ways Ministry, also recognized the tectonic shift in the Vatican’s move, calling the Declaration “an early Christmas gift” for LGBT Catholics.

“Pope Francis gave LGBTQ+ Catholics an early Christmas gift this year by approving blessings for same-gender couples,” DeBernardo writes.

“The Vatican doctrinal office’s previous claim that ‘God does not bless sin’ has been uprooted by the new exhortation, ‘God never turns away anyone who approaches him!’” he adds.

Cardinal Víctor Manuel “Tucho” Fernández, head of the Vatican’s doctrinal office, has in fact proclaimed that the Vatican’s new position regarding blessing gay couples constitutes “a real development.”

Cardinal Fernández said that blessings on gay couples should not be seen as “officially validating their status,” but it hard to imagine that it will not indeed be seen as validating their status, even if not “officially.”

As Franciscan Father Thomas Weinandy, a prominent American theologian and the former head of the doctrinal office of the U.S. Bishops Conference, has observed, everyone rightly understands a blessing as an affirmation of what is being blessed.

To bless same-sex couples without giving the impression that the Church is validating their sexual activity is “a charade,” Weinandy writes. “All those present at such blessings know, without a doubt, that such relationships are sexual in nature. No one is fooled.”

“Actually, they are rejoicing that such sexual relations are being blessed. That’s the point of these blessings,” he adds. “It is not their sexual abstinence being blessed, but their sexual indulgence.”

This is why until now the Vatican has prohibited such blessings, since such a structurally sinful relationship is “unblessable.”

In its 2021 statement on the matter, the Vatican’s doctrinal office (CDF) declared that the Church has no authority to bless homosexual unions, since God Himself “does not and cannot bless sin.”

Blessings require both “the right intention of those who participate” and “that what is blessed be objectively and positively ordered to receive and express grace, according to the designs of God inscribed in creation,” stated the text.

In allowing such blessings, the new Vatican Declaration takes pains to insist that they should not be given in liturgical settings and should not be confused with sacramental marriage.

At the same time, it undeniably opens the door to the notion that homosexual couples are now “blessable.”

As Father Weinandy writes, although “On the Pastoral Meaning of Blessings” may be well intended, “it wreaks havoc on the very nature of blessings.”

“Attempting immorally to exploit God’s blessings makes a mockery of his divine goodness and love,” he concludes.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_chuckle: BARF!   :wpds_envy: 

TradeBait2

Blessing them right into Hell.

Christ told the sinners to go and sin no more when he forgave them. Seems like that is what the hierarchy of His universal church should be doing with participants in sexual perversion sins. Those wanting a blessing should first confess their sins, accept Jesus as their personal savior, then be forgiven. The blessing comes after that action on the part of the sinner. When Jesus gave authority to His disciples it was to go and do likewise. Current church leaders assume the roles of those early disciples.

Quit playing word games, church leaders of all types and denominations. Quit appeasing sinners. Man and woman up. Jesus experienced horrendous ridicule and a cruel death to act as a sacrifice for our sins. Quit trying to cheapen this magnificent gift. Uphold the Word of God so that more will know Him, the Son of God.

Aubergine

I think this is a very, very dangerous thing that is happening, more than what is on the surface. This is really dark stuff.

Think of the glee and power a demon, possessing a human, would derive from convincing a PRIEST of the church to give them a blessing. Think what that means.

God help us.

As to “go and sin no more,” Steve is convinced that the story of the adulteress didn’t appear originally in John, but was inserted later. However, I consulted with the most Biblically learned person I know, and they are convinced that it does appear in the more reliable manuscripts, and was originally in the book. So, I am still researching.

TradeBait2

Nothing definitive, just some theologians think the usage of text changed to make it appear it was an inserted story to make the point in John 8:11. But that does not explain why he said the “Sin no more” in John 5:14 to the crippled man at the pool of Bethesda. No credible theologian disputes that text. He stated His forgiveness of sin when healing people in other scripture as well.

I personally think they are searching with little evidence of their assertion other than the writing styles changed. They have no credible evidence it did not happen. Regardless, the theme of sinning no more after forgiveness is repeating from the mouth of Christ.

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Aubergine

Thanks, TB, for another example I had forgotten.

It doesn’t make any logical sense to me that forgiveness of sin wouldn’t include the necessity not to do it again, anyway.

Robert Baker

I will include this here from one of the more recent commentaries on John (2008). Most NT scholars now view John 7:53- 8:11 to be a later insertion possibly from an oral tradition of the period. It is technical but that is hard to avoid considering the extreme age of the documents that form the basis of the canon.

Problems of Authorship and of Canonicity

These problems must be treated as a series of distinct questions. The first question is whether the story of the adulteress was part of the original Gospel according to John or whether it was inserted at a later period. The answer to this question is clearly that it was a later insertion. This passage is not found in any of the important early Greek textual witnesses of Eastern provenance (e.g., in neither Bodmer papyrus); nor is it found in the OS or the Coptic. There are no comments on this passage by the Greek writers on John of the 1st Christian millennium, and it is only from ca. 900 that it begins to appear in the standard Greek text. The evidence for the passage as Scripture in the early centuries is confined to the Western Church. It appears in some OL texts of the Gospels. Ambrose and Augustine wanted it read as part of the Gospel, and Jerome included it in the Vulgate. It appears in the 5th-century Greco-Latin Codex Bezae.
However, a good case can be argued that the story had its origins in the East and is truly ancient (see Schilling, art. cit.). Eusebius (Hist. III 39:17; GCS 91:292) says, “Papias relates another story of a woman who was accused of many sins before the Lord, which is contained in the Gospel according to the Hebrews.” If this is the same story as that of the adulteress, the reference would point to early Palestinian origins; but we cannot be certain that our story is the one meant. The 3rd-century Didascalia Apostolorum (II 24:6; Funk ed., I, 93) gives a clear reference to the story of the adulteress and uses it as a presumably well-known example of our Lord’s gentleness; this work is of Syrian origin, and the reference means that the story was known (but not necessarily as Scripture) in 2nd-century Syria. From the standpoint of internal criticism, the story is quite plausible and quite like some of the other gospel stories of attempts to trap Jesus (Luke 20:20, 27). There is nothing in the story itself or its language that would forbid us to think of it as an early story concerning Jesus. Becker argues strongly for this thesis.
If the story of the adulteress was an ancient story about Jesus, why did it not immediately become part of the accepted Gospels? Riesenfeld has given the most plausible explanation of the delay in the acceptance of this story. The ease with which Jesus forgave the adulteress was hard to reconcile with the stern penitential discipline in vogue in the early Church. It was only when a more liberal penitential practice was firmly established that this story received wide acceptance. (Riesenfeld traces its liturgical acceptance to the 5th century as a reading for the feast of St. Pelagia.)
The second question is whether or not the story is of Johannine origin. The fact that the story was added to the Gospel only at a later period does not rule out the possibility that we are dealing with a stray narrative composed in Johannine circles. The Greek text of the story shows a number of variant readings (stemming from the fact that it was not fully accepted at first), but in general the style is not Johannine either in vocabulary or grammar. Stylistically, the story is more Lucan than Johannine.
Nor is the manuscript evidence unanimous in associating the story with John. One important group of witnesses places the story after Luke 21:38, a localization which would be far more appropriate than the present position of the story in John, where it breaks up the sequence of the discourses at Tabernacles.
If the story was not of Johannine origin and is really out of place, what prompted its localization after John 7:52? (Actually, a few witnesses place it elsewhere in John: after 7:36 or at the end of the Gospel.) There are several views. Miss Guilding, pp. 110–12, 2141, accounts for the situation of the passage both in John and in Luke on the basis of her lectionary cycle theory. Schilling, p. 97 ff., insisting on the parallels with the Susanna story, draws attention to echoes of Daniel in John, and thus makes the Daniel motif a guiding factor to the introduction of the story of the adulteress into John. A more certain explanation for the localization of the story in the general context of John 7 and 8 can be found in the fact that it illustrates certain statements of Jesus in those chapters, for example, 8:15, “I pass judgment on no one”; 8:46, “Can any of you convict me of sin?” Derrett, p. 13, who thinks that the key to the story lies in the unworthiness of the accusers and the witnesses, points out that the theme of admissibility of evidence comes up in the immediate context of 7:51 and 8:13. Hoskyns, p. 571, hits on a truth when he says that, while the story may be textually out of place, from a theological viewpoint it fits into the theme of judgment in ch. 8.
The third question is whether the story is canonical or not. For some this question will have already been answered above, since in their view the fact that the story is a later addition to the Gospel and is not of Johannine origin means that it is not canonical Scripture (even though it may be an ancient and true story). For others canonicity is a question of traditional ecclesiastical acceptance and usage. Thus, in the Roman Catholic Church the criterion of canonicity is acceptance into the Vulgate, for the Church has used the Vulgate as its Bible for centuries. The story of the adulteress was accepted by Jerome, and so Catholics regard it as canonical. It also found its way into the received text of the Byzantine Church, and ultimately into the King James Bible. And so the majority of the non-Roman Christians also accept the story as Scripture.

Raymond E. Brown, The Gospel according to John (I–XII): Introduction, Translation, and Notes, vol. 29, Anchor Yale Bible (New Haven; London: Yale University Press, 2008), 335–336.

Aubergine

Thanks for the information. My study continues…

TheseTruths

The Last Time Democrats Took a GOP Candidate Off the Ballot Was in 1860 – They Would Not Allow Abraham Lincoln’s Name on the Ballot in Their Slave States

As Randy DeSoto reported at Western Journal back in November – The last time Democrats pulled such a stunt was in the presidential election of 1860, when Republican nominee Abraham Lincoln’s name did not appear on most Southern states’ ballots.

Abraham Lincoln was still able to win the election with a plurality of the popular vote in the rest of the country. The Democrat plot failed.

Abraham Lincoln won the election with 180 electoral votes...

Democrats attempted and failed to stop Abraham Lincoln from becoming the U.S. president. That didn’t work.

Today, this same party of slave owners and the KKK is hoping to block President Trump from the ballot.

It’s now up to the Supreme Court to shoot them down.

barkerjim
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!! “Hugh Janus”!!!

holly

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Gail Combs

Actually it is YUGE j–ANUS

cthulhu

In general, when the official remedy is to overlay Artificial Intelligence to fix an existing problem, it’s because too little Natural Intelligence was used to create the situation in the first place…..

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

(Picture is of one-way aisles in stores.)

pgroup2

About that 14th amendment bullshit …

How bad is it?

It’s so bad that every attorney involved should lose their licenses and every judge involved should be stripped from office.

125 years ago, Congress removed the enforcement part of section 3.

IOW, the ‘disability’ no longer exists. I cannot describe how enraged I am at the sloppy research undertaken by the shysters in Colorado. And whatever other states they are playing fake law games.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-14/section-3/disqualification-clause

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You’re assuming they did any research or would have cared what it turned up.

Valerie Curren

Woke AI will do the required “research” & delusional leftist justification of unconstitutional lawlessness…per precedent  😠 

pgroup2

Are you asserting that they knew the ‘law’ didn’t exist yet acted as if it did?

That’s a level of stupidity/arrogance I find hard to believe.

  :wpds_shock: 

cthulhu
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I have no idea if they knew that Congress had removed the disability (I didn’t, until now–or at least that’s how I’m interpreting things as of right now). I don’t know if they’d have thought to ask the question.

I was trying to say that I doubt they would have cared if even if they did think to ask the question and/or they did know. This is lawfare, where the goal is to tie things up even at the cost of ignoring facts.

Cuppa Covfefe

Aubergine’s Razor…

TheseTruths

What concerns me is that this should be universally known among those defending Trump, but I’m not seeing anyone mention it.

pgroup2

Uh … where are ya hiding Thursday’s thread?

Dora

Rudy Giuliani files for BANKRUPTCY with debts of $153M just days after going jewelry shopping and getting hit with $148M defamation verdict: Former mayor has less than $10m in assets and also owes money to Hunter Biden

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12890809/Rudy-Giuliani-files-BANKRUPTCY-lists-100million-debts.html?ito=push-notification&ci=CmFtDG95RC&cri=1keFWrxn1U&si=gvyc4Ty4YFpy&xi=71c3400f-ca08-4826-90b9-05cddb066dec&ai=12890809