What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?
January 6 Tapes?
Where are the tapes? Anyone, Anyone? Bueller? Johnson??
Paging Speaker Johnson…this is your conscience calling you out on broken promises.
News Flash
Today, it is still the case that Joe Biden didn’t Win.
I realize that to some readers, this might be a shock; surely at some point things must change and Biden will have actually won.
But the past cannot actually be changed.
It will always and forever be the case that Joe Biden didn’t win.
And if you, Leftist Lurker, want to dismiss it as dead white cis-male logic…well, you can call it what you want, but then please just go fuck off. No one here buys that bullshit–logic is logic and facts are facts regardless of skin color–and if you gave it a moment’s rational thought, you wouldn’t either. Of course your worthless education never included being able to actually reason–or detect problems with false reasoning–so I don’t imagine you’ll actually wake up as opposed to being woke.
As Ayn Rand would sometimes point out: Yes, you are free to evade reality. What you cannot do is evade the consequences of evading reality. Or to put it concretely: You can ignore the Mack truck bearing down on you as you play in the middle of the street, you won’t be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring the Mack truck.
And Ayn Rand also pointed out that existence (i.e., the sum total of everything that exists) precedes consciousness–our consciousnesses are a part of existence, not outside of it–therefore reality cannot be a “social construct” as so many of you fucked-up-in-the-head people seem to think.
So much for Leftist douchebag lurkers. For the rest of you, the regular readers and those lurkers who understand such things: I continue to carry the banner once also carried by Wheatie. His Fraudulency didn’t win.
Let’s Go, Brandon!!
His Fraudulency
Joe Biteme, properly styled His Fraudulency, continues to infest the White House, we haven’t heard much from the person who should have been declared the victor, and hopium is still being dispensed even as our military appears to have joined the political establishment in knuckling under to the fraud.
One can hope that all is not as it seems.
I’d love to feast on that crow.
(I’d like to add, I find it entirely plausible, even likely, that His Fraudulency is also His Figureheadedness. (Apparently that wasn’t a word; it got a red underline. Well it is now.) Where I differ with the hopium addicts is on the subject of who is really in charge. It ain’t anyone we like.)
Justice Must Be Done.
The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.
Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.
Lawyer Appeasement Section
OK now for the fine print.
This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines, here, with an addendum on 20191110.
We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
And remember Wheatie’s Rules:
1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.
(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)
The Asteroids
In 1772 Johan Elert Bode citing Johan Daniel Titius, formulated the Titius-Bode law, more commonly just “Bode’s Law.” They had noted a rather interesting pattern in the distances of the planets from the Sun, when expressed in AUs. Let’s show the ones known as of 1772, plus the Hugh Janus, discovered in 1781.
| Mercury | 0.387 |
| Venus | 0.723 |
| Earth | 1.000 |
| Mars | 1.523 |
| Jupiter | 5.203 |
| Saturn | 9.537 |
| Uranus | 19.191 |
The thing is, there’s a pattern here…sort of, and that’s Bode’s Law. It’s a mathematical progression. Start with 4. Then 4+3. Then 4+(3×2). Then 4+(3×4).
Or slightly more clearly: 4, 4+3×20, 4+3×21, 4+3×22, 4+3×23, etc. It’s not quite a perfect series because there’s no way to get 4+0 by adding 3×2some-power to it. Anyhow, let’s divide these numbers by 10 and compare to the planet distances:
| Mercury | 0.387 | 0.4 |
| Venus | 0.723 | 0.7 |
| Earth | 1.000 | 1.0 |
| Mars | 1.523 | 1.6 |
| ??? | 2.8 | |
| Jupiter | 5.203 | 5.2 |
| Saturn | 9.537 | 10.0 |
| Uranus | 19.191 | 19.6 |
It’s a decent (but not great) fit! And when Uranus was discovered in 1781, it almost fit too, albeit missing by a bit over 0.4 AUs. This made it seem more and more like this law might actually mean something. But if so, the glaring WTF in the whole thing is the fact that we seem to be missing a planet at 2.8 AU.
(I’ll pause here to point out that we no longer think of this as a law. It was valid to think of it as one back then, since a “law” just says “things behave this way, for whatever reason.” Neptune is in completely the wrong place, plus extrasolar planets don’t even remotely follow anything like this even if you scale for the fact that most of them orbit red dwarfs and do so much closer to them.)
But back then, it certainly looked as if we might have a planet to find, especially after Hugh Janus’s discovery made the notion of undiscovered planets thinkable, and Hugh Janus was even at close to the right distance!
On the other hand, Immanuel Kant, when he wasn’t doing things that would later piss off Ayn Rand, did do some theoretical astronomy and he wondered if perhaps Jupiter’s gravity had created the gap.
Many people (not nearly enough in Ayn Rand’s opinion) paid no attention to Kant, and tried looking.
We didn’t have to wait all that long. Just for a new century.
On January 1, 1801, technically the first day of the 19th century, Giuseppe Piazzi, working at the Palermo Astronomical Observatory in Sicily…[OK, I can’t even see the word “Palermo” without hearing in my head a British voice telling Field Marshal Montgomery that Patton had taken Palermo…to which the response was “Damn!” Thanks to the movie Patton.] Anyhow, Piazzi first sighted an object, and repeated his observations from night to night…and it was moving against the background stars! He was able to tell it was not a comet.
We had our planet, named Ceres after the Roman god of agriculture, in keeping with the classical mythological theme; all other planets were named after Roman gods and goddesses, except for Uranus, which was named after the Greek sky god, father of Saturn/Kronos, who was in turn the father of Jupiter/Zeus. (The Roman name would have been “Caelus.”)
It was even at the right distance, 2.77 AU on average, varying between 2.55 and 2.98 AUs.
[Speaking of Uranus…the metal uranium (discovered 1789, isolated in pure form 1841) was named after Uranus, the metal cerium (discovered 1803, isolated in pure form 1838) was named after Ceres. Unlike uranium, you probably have some cerium in your house; typically the enamel on the inside of a self-cleaning oven is largely cerium oxide, which helps cause hydrocarbons to burn during the cleaning.]
It wasn’t much of a planet; it appeared as no more than a point of light in telescopes, whereas other planets showed a disc. And then, before we could really confirm it, it ended up in conjunction with the Sun…in other words, it was directly behind the Sun as seen from Earth. Carl Friedrich Gauss calculated where it would show up after the conjunction, and on 31 December of that year, it was picked up and tracked.
But then it got crazy. Three more asteroids were discovered over the next three years, Pallas (->palladium), Juno, and Vesta. And then nothing, for decades, when Astraea was found in 1845. Then they started coming in, 15 asteroids had been found by 1851, and 100 by 1868.
All were tiny. Ceres had a respectable size, but even it is much smaller than the Moon. In fact it turns out to be bigger than all of the other asteroids put together. Here’s an illustration of the first ten asteroids’ sizes against the Moon (in gray).
By convention, asteroids are numbered in order of discovery, hence 1 Ceres, 2 Pallas, 3 Juno, 4 Vesta, 5 Astraea, and so on. In the mid 20th century the numbers were still below 2000. Today the number is 1,382,205 (this includes other small bodies in the solar system, though, not just asteroids…but back then we had no inkling of such things). By the way when Pluto got demoted, it was instantly given the next number in the sequence, which back then was 134340.
Vesta, though much smaller than Ceres, is lighter colored, and technically it’s just barely visible to the naked eye…if you’re somewhere out in the middle of the ocean and eat a lot of carrots.
OK so what’s going on here?
At first, we had the notion that perhaps there had been a full-size planet there, but it had blown up or otherwise been destroyed. As it turns out, there’s not nearly enough stuff there. Now most astronomers believe that Jupiter’s gravity probably prevented a planet from forming there…so Kant was right.
With all of the other small bodies discovered more recently, asteroids are now defined as non-cometary bodies in the inner solar system (i.e., inside the orbit of Jupiter). Comets are largely made up of ice…not necessarily water ice…and will present a tail close to the sun. Asteroids, on the other hand generally fall into three categories, C-type or carbonaceous, M-type or metallic (iron-nickel plus other goodies), and S-type or silicaceous (rocks). They can be solid bodies, or in some cases, they’re basically piles of rubble, not even a single body.
Most asteroids are well-behaved, orbiting in the “asteroid belt.” It’s estimated that there are anywhere from 1.1 million to 1.9 million asteroids larger than 1 km there, and countless smaller objects. If you plot their semi-major axes (i.e., average distance from the Sun), the belt ranges from a bit over 2.1 AUs to 3.3 AUs. But there are gaps! Virtually no asteroid has a 2.5 AU orbit, nor one at 2.82 AU; they’re also scarce at a few other distances. Here’s what I mean:
These gaps are called the “Kirkwood” gaps, and the diagram gives a clue as to what causes them. In essence any body that orbits the Sun three times for each time Jupiter orbits once, will get perturbed–its orbit will change size–and will no longer be in that spot. This is a 3:1 resonance, and 5:2, 7:3 and 2:1 resonances also exist, and asteroids can’t be in those resonances for long.
This is not to say that no asteroid will ever be at that distance. If it’s in an elliptical orbit it could spend some time closer in than the gap, then farther out; of course it must cross through the gap.
Oh, and by the way: Forget what you saw in Star Wars or for that matter any of a hundred other space operas. Although there are a lot of asteroids…there is a lot more space. So it’s mostly empty space. Your chances of encountering one if you travel through the belt are miniscule…unless you aim for one. It’s certainly not the game of space dodgeball you see in Star Wars. (We’ve sent probes through the asteroid belt quite a lot.)
Asteroids Not in the Asteroid Belt
Not all asteroids live in the asteroid belt.
We have the Trojan asteroids. The first of these was discovered in the same orbit as Jupiter…but either 60 degrees ahead or behind Jupiter. These are actually stable places to be, according to work by Joseph-Louis Lagrange in 1772. (In general, any system with two large bodies orbiting each other will have stable locations at these locations, forming equilateral triangles between the two bodies and the locations; these are now called L4 (ahead of Jupiter) and L5 (behind Jupiter). Objects placed in orbits here will tend to stay there; even if they drift away, they’ll be pulled back, rather than pushed away, like a marble at the bottom of a bowl.)
As you might have guessed there are L1, L2 and L3 points but they are metastable; if an object starts to drift out of those locations, they will tend to move further away, like a ball set at the top of a hill.
The following diagram shows the Earth and Sun (not Jupiter and the Sun) complete with Earth’s moon; you can just ignore that.
The first such asteroids were named after heroes of the Trojan War, and this became a convention. In fact the ones at the Sun-Jupiter L4 point are named after the Greek side, while L5 denizens are named after people on the Trojan side. (However 624 Hektor (at L4) and 617 Patroclus (at L5) were given their names before the convention was established so they are in the “wrong” groups.)
It’s now estimated that there may be as many asteroids in these Trojan groups as there are in the “main” asteroid belt.
The term Trojan became standard for a body in any planet’s L4 and L5 points, and there are a few of these; in fact there are two in Earth’s L4 point.
But the more immediately–even urgently–interesting asteroids are the ones whose orbits are inside the asteroid belt. There are several groups of these Near Earth Objects…and that name should tell you why we are so concerned with them:
Amors (named after 1221 Amor) have an orbit larger than the Earth, and their minimum distance to the Sun is greater than Earth’s maximum distance to the Sun. As such, they pose no collision hazard with the Earth. Unless, of course, something mucks with their orbit, like a near pass with another body.
Atiras (named after 163693 Atira), their orbits are entirely within the Earth’s orbit. No hazard now, but the same caveat applies.
Apollos (1862 Apollo) and Atens (2062 Aten) are asteroids whose orbits cross that of Earth, in other words their furthest distance from the Sun either exceeds our minimum distance, and their minimum distance exceeds our maximum distance, or both. Apollos have an average distance greater than 1 AU, Atens have an average distance less than 1 AU.
Or there’s this handy-dandy chart you can use.
These are the scary ones. We are very, very aware of the consequences of a collision with a sizeable asteroid. Most life was extinguished by a 10 km asteroid 66 million years ago, and in historic times we’ve had two explode over Russia with megaton force (1908 in Tunguska and 2013 in Chelyabinsk)–and these were small bodies, roughly 50-60 and 18 meters across, respectively. Neither asteroid actually hit the Earth (at least not in one piece), rather they exploded high in our atmosphere when their trajectories grazed it.
50,000 or so years ago we did suffer a direct hit from a 50 meter iron-nickel meteorite, in Arizona. This left a 3900 foot crater you can visit today:
Note that we failed to spot the Chelyabinsk meteor before it hit, though we saw another one that completely missed the Earth not long before that.
We’ve bent considerable effort to trying to locate all Near Earth Objects and we think we’ve spotted the really big ones. But even a 100 or 50 meter object can cause a lot of damage, and no we haven’t spotted even a significant fraction of those.
Goodies
I mentioned earlier that metallic asteroids are made of iron and nickel, as well as other goodies.
This was important in the past, and will be again. Before we learned how to smelt iron around 1300 BCE (a very rough date, the end of the Bronze age), the only source of iron we had was meteorites. In fact, going back to the Trojan war, one of the gifts given to a Greek warrior was a meteorite he could use to make iron armor out of. Priceless! (Especially given that that particular mixture of iron and nickel is in fact much better material than pure iron would be.)
But what are the “other goodies”? We think these iron-nickel meteorites were once in the core of a larger body (not a full planet), which had melted and begun to differentiate, with the iron, nickel, and other heavy metals sinking into the core, leaving the outer layers relatively bereft of these metals. Earth has an iron core due to this very mechanism. We also have relatively little gold, platinum, PGMs, etc in our crust, because of this process. Although rare even in the core, they are less so there than up here.
Iron nickel meteorites do have some variances but are often 1 part per million or more of gold and/or iridium. This would be considered very good ores (especially for iridium which is normally less than a part per billion).
In fact it’s that relative abundance of iridium that was the smoking gun that established that an asteroid hit the Earth at about the time the dinosaurs were wiped out (there are still some holdout paleontologists who insist that most of the job was done by volcanic activity before the meteorite arrived). Sediments deposited at that time show “spikes” in the concentration of iridium.
That’s the past. What about the future?
We are pretty confident that 16 Psyche is a large iron-nickel body. It has been measured at 220 meters in diameter (it’s a bit irregularly shaped).
Its mass is 23 quadrillion (metric) tonnes. Or 23 million billion tonnes. That is a LOT of iron, more than we’ve ever used certainly, and…well, that’s going to be 23 billion tonnes of iridium, 23 billion tonnes of gold…but we can’t readily access it.
Yet.
We are sending a probe, named Psyche, to get a closer look and confirm what we think about it. It launched on 23 October of last year and is expected to arrive in 2029, shortly after the beginning of JD Vance’s first term as President.
Spot Prices.
Kitco Ask. Last week:
Gold $2,622.40
Silver $31.24
Platinum $986.00
Palladium $1090.00
Rhodium $5,075.00
FRNSI* 125.859-
Gold:Silver 83.944-
This week, markets closed as of 3PM MT.
Gold $2,658.90
Silver $31.72
Platinum $1,010.00
Palladium $1,038.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 127.624+
Gold:Silver 83.824+
Gold was as high as 2,670-something or so but then got hammered on Friday. Silver was over $32 even Friday morning, but the usual Friday beat-down occurred. Palladium’s bid price (i.e., the price they offer, not the price they ask) is lower than platinum’s bid price. (Usually when you see news stories about the price of these metals, they work off the bid price. I quote the ask price because you should be buying this stuff up, not selling it.) Silver again seems to be undergoing wider swings than gold, but the gold silver ratio ends up barely moving, somehow.
Gold futures contracts for December delivery apparently breached the $2,700 mark for the first time sometime on Thursday.
*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.
So there’s an asteroid that could, in the future, cause another gold rush…
A six-year journey!
Imagine, though if we could get to a 500 meter NEO that was like this. Yes, much smaller but still ridiculous amounts of iron, nickel, and goodies.
What I wonder is whether it is stratified. Were there layers of lighter metals, leading down to a core of heavier ones? Are the remnants of the “bottom” layers going to be radioactive?
We know there is some radioactivity in asteroids, because we radiometrically date them.
Iron-nickel asteroid composition varies all over the place, so I wouldn’t be surprised if something like what you said happened. But I’d rather leave that for a real expert to answer, he might agree, or know we’re talking out our asses.
Still, it’d be real fun if they found a solid chunk of what had been the layer about as dense as gold. Probably have some tungsten in there, too. Not a lot of iron.
At least some of the the analyses did find significant tungsten. A lot of them found germanium.
In ALL cases, though the vast majority was iron and nickel, so your last sentence hasn’t been true…so far.
Trump has some excellent, high-profile surrogates this time around.
Very interesting perspective.
He’s not wrong. There are slaves all over the world, fairly openly, except in the white West. While we do have trafficking, it is a shameful, hidden, illegal activity.
Regarding your last sentence, its illegality is pro forma; it has been de facto decriminalized via current fed border policy. The appropriateness of the first two adjectives is debatable thanks to the same policy. 😡
Democrats have always enslaved the poor and Blacks in this country.
Now the imported more willing slaves who do not need to be manipulated
He got it 🙂 Americans always unite when danger lurks . This has always astounded me and I believe it. Yesterday when I was in Columbus I interacted with 3 Black women and I felt a unity a sisterhood with them. They were kind respectful and I was also to them.
The American spirit is still in tact 🙂 God Bless America !
folks are waking up. Common most everywhere I go.
I am so glad that people are waking up to reality it was a matter of time 🙂
Beautiful truth!!!
Yes it is beautiful 🙂
❤
That’s a double edged sword.
Expect Tucson to gum up the works if Trump is allowed to win in AZ.
Any county being able to halt the certification process due to fraud opens the door for alleged fraud, delays, “found” ballots, etc.
Plenty of time for USPS to find another sack of ballots, recently printed.
Elon Musk, on non-citizen police officers:
😳
Somebody had to replace Derek Chauvin. 😡
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HaKKKeem DipShitz.
AND logic in action…😂
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
And “hang loose” while you do it!
How can I cheat you? Let me count the ways. Dems have a never-ending supply of ways to lie, deceive, steal, and cheat in elections.
Love this!
Physics…
Something Wild Just Happened at the CERN Particle Accelerator
Hopefully not by Gordon Freeman in the Black Mesa development unit…..
Pretty esoteric.
We’ll see if anything comes out of it.
Lost tree from the Bible is resurrected from 1,000-year-old mystery seed
What if the Sheba tree has male and female to bear fruit?
Often, another tree of a similar type can play the pollinator. We can hope there is some relative that works.
wouldn’t that create some type of hybrid?
No. Not usually.
For example, if you buy a Bosc pear tree, you will need either a Anjou, Bartlett, Comice, Seckel nearby for pollination. But your Bosc pears will still be Bosc. A lot of fruit trees are like this. But a Bartlett pear is self-pollinating, which is probably why it is so common. But even a Bartlett will fruit better with a different pear nearby.
Fascinating! Thx 🙂
🙂
TheseTruths
Thank you for bringing this. Yours Truly wonders if this tree is descended from the original balsam trees that produced the Balm in Gilead spoken of in the Bible.
Interesting idea.
it’s like she’s trying to lose…
Kamala asked about policy… this is her response…
It seems like it would be really hard to talk that much, and literally not say anything coherent at all, and just keep going, and going. Because it’s not normal. It’s not natural.
You’d have to work at it, to be so intentionally vague, about everything, that your words are literally just meaningless sounds emanating from your mouth, with the surface appearance of sentence structure, but absolutely no meaning to any of it.
Duckspeak.
duckspeak — To quack like a duck (usually indicating one’s delivery of newspeak, delivered without any active thought from the speaker, sounding very much like nothing but noise, but very clearly fully in line with Party ideology). “It is one of those interesting words that have two contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it is abuse, applied to someone you agree with, it is praise.” – Syme, Newspeak philologist.
(From Orwell’s “1984”, which wasn’t supposed to be a how-to manual.)
Word of mouth about a government study: You can teach a duck anything in a day, but the next day all it will remember is how to quack.
Quack, quack, quack
Kamala is not dumb she thinks we are dumb that is why she tells us nothing Many people are satisfied with word salad and will vote for her. This shows democrats do not want to think that is why we are a danger to their power, we think 🙂
She is dancing around her true political intentions.
REVEALED : The “October Surprise” That Could Tank Kamala’s White House Chances
the dockworkers strike, early next week…?
key ports along the East and Gulf states (map shown)..
article, here…
https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/revealed-the-october-surprise-that-could-tank-kamalas-white-house-chances-mace/
9/27
An October surprise that would affect the Dems…interesting. I tend to think the “surprises” always adversely affect our side.
Agree. In this case, a couple October surprises.
Joy…
“They Slaughtered, Raped and Buried Us Alive” : Syrians Praise Blows To Hezbollah
Syrians…especially the Sunni population…have not forgotten the brutality & atrocities committed by Hezbollah in support of Assad during that civil war…
more details, here…
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hkl5pzjac
Devastation left by Hurricane Helene – https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-show-helenes-wrath-across-southeast-after-category-4-storm-slams-into-florida-145524217.html
Helene has dumped rain on a part of the country that had recently endured extreme precipitation, an unfortunate one-two punch that has made flooding that much worse. Here are some of the totals that have come just from Helene:
• 25.07 inches in Hendersonville, N.C.
• 24.01 inches Ridgecrest, N.C.
• 23.77 inches at Mount Mitchell State Park, N.C.
• 22.98 inches at Sunfish Mountain, S.C.
• 21.07 inches at Slicking Mountain, S.C
• 19.50 inches in Clemson, S.C.
• 19.39 inches in Banner Elk, N.C.
• 17.70 inches at Grandfather Mountain, N.C.
• 16.61 inches in Salem, S.C.
• 14.68 inches in Tallulah Falls, Ga.
• 13.56 inches in Martinez, Ga.
• 11.13 inches at Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta airport, Ga.
• 7.35 inches in Columbia, S.C.
• 5.62 inches in Charlotte, N.C.
Today’s flooding from #Helene is worse than the Great Flood of 1916, the flood of record in Western North Carolina. Please, keep the good people of Western North Carolina in your thoughts. They will be recovering from this generational storm for a long time. #NCwx
https://x.com/KathieDello/status/1839777755292151956
Steinhatchee, Cedar Key and the other N FL coastal areas had just rebuilt after Idalia last year and Debby earlier this year. They must be very discouraged.
The Advent Christian Village where Sally and her Dad live has been hit by 3 hurricanes in 2 years. This time, with Helene, numerous trees were blown down and a few houses had trees fall on them, but the new roofs on the main buildings replaced after Idalia and Debby do not seem to have been damaged. No blue tarps anywhere…yet. We had 5 family homes in the path of the storm. The two in the city seem to have escaped damage, as well as the house at the Village. We are not sure about the two homes belonging to Sally’s Dad’s siblings on St. George Island, FL, near Apalachicola that were west of the storm. We are humbled and grateful to have been spared.
As I watched the eye of Helene come ashore on radar Thursday night, the eye came in south and slightly west of Perry, FL. Then it began to move NNE, and would pass directly over the Village. The weather instruments at the Village showed the height of sustained winds reaching 75-76 mph with gusts of 99 mph and this lasted for just 10 minutes (https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=2205W&hours=72)
As I watched the radar and the wind measurements, the eye of the hurricane fractured into multiple pockets and there was no discernible eye and eye wall. After that, the sustained winds and gusts slowly diminished and the storm sounds gradually became quieter in the wee hours of the morning.
Good to hear from you!
TY for this update…God be with you, your extended family, & all effected. I cannot begin to imagine the stress you all experience as these storms come in. What a blessing that the Village has found a way to weather these storms. May God have mercy on All 🙏
Hope this lets that tweet you shared show here
The rain hit us late afternoon. When we came back from Columbus on I 23 I saw a tornado in the distance and there was high winds and heavy rain. The ditches next to 23 were full of water. One part of I 23 was flooded and I saw a car in the ditch only 1/2 of car visible doors were open people got out. Was glad to be back home.
Wow. We had a lot of rain most of today & a lot of wind yesterday. I haven’t looked at a weather map so don’t know if the rain was in play far enough North to mess w/ Hubby’s weekend at hunting camp to do prep work for Bow Hunting Season that starts Oct. 1. He’s going to go up again next weekend & has the whole week off & will be joined intermittently by various kids & I think his hunting buddy. I will be manning the Cottage, about an hour North of hunting camp where my daughter will be at night so that I can watch her daughter, allowing this mom to float back & forth to hunting camp. Our oldest son & his wife & 2 girls will also be there that first weekend so the siblings might travel to/from hunting camp together. This will be a new adventure for All of us that will hopefully set a repeatable precedent to allow the moms to hunt, to some degree, if they want to, in the coming years!
Sounds to be fun 🙂 Thanks for sharing 🙂
YW, I’ll probably share some type of report on it all once I’m back home & “sufficiently” recouped 🙂
Hope you have good weather 🙂
Me too. It should be pretty interesting & I’ll need lots of strength from the Lord to manage my granddaughter for many hours & days in a row…whew!
Thanks for the report. Praying for all folks who have been affected and are subject to this. Stay safe.
The hits keep coming in our area as well.
https://news.yahoo.com/news/tva-nolichucky-dam-failure-imminent-043106012.html
That is about an hour east of us. Family members in a small town 30-40 minutes west of that linked area are being evacuated currently. It flows from there toward the the TVA controlled Douglas Lake that straddles our county and the adjacent one east of it. Douglas is at max capacity and all overflow gates are open into the French Broad River. TVA is doing all they can to control the flow to reduce flooding in towns and cities. The volume of water is HUGE.
We were spared the torrential rains that hit Carolina and the eastern most part of TN. Had about 4-5″ that was directed out by TVA prior to the onslaught from Carolina. So we are in good shape unless Douglas Dam breeches, which is holding up currently.
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Good Lord, are you and yours ready to evacuate if the Douglas Dam breaches? Please stay safe!
Thanks, PAVACA. We will.
We are far enough from the French Broad that we should be fine. It appears to be holding and they continue to release through the gates. Supposed to peak later this evening.
The photos coming out of the Black Mountain area east of Asheville are devastating. As bad or worse as a war zone.
Yikes! The Carolinas are being drowned!
GA/FL
Thank you so much for the update, and that you all there were spared the worst of Helene. Sounds like the Village did a good job in storm preparation. I’m hoping that the houses on St. George’s Island are intact and no injuries to people there.
Dreadful that Cedar Key was pretty much destroyed by Helene. The people there were just getting their lives back together from the last hit.
It appears to me that Helene “split” into two separate storm paths after it passed through Georgia and then encountered the huge storm that came down from Canada. Sort of like a “T” split. North Carolina was hit very hard, especially the western part of the state.
My entire yard is a spongy, squishy bog. Ditto for the neighborhood. The concern now is that trees will start falling simply because of the saturation of the ground. This is particularly true for trees that have “short roots”, like the Virginia Pines and the Loblolly Pines that are all over the place.
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Harris claims in 2022 the border is secure.. Today she claimed she will secure the border.. What is wrong with this picture?
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1839839084065275904/pu/vid/avc1/1280×720/GsMgVylMBcUbTn-E.mp4?tag=12
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Oh my! LOLOL!
What an enjoyable read, Thanks Steve! This image brings some questions to my mind 🙂
“50,000 or so years ago we did suffer a direct hit from a 50 meter iron-nickel meteorite, in Arizona. This left a 3900 foot crater you can visit today:”
As you likely know I try to have a Biblical world view, so I believe in the worldwide flood of Noah. I understand some biblical literalists have postulated that the Creation outlined in Genesis happened in roughly 4004 BC (I’m not saying I am firmly persuaded of this timeline but it is based on ages & descendancy outlined in Genesis, I believe, so that we can speculate that Noah’s flood happened sometime After 4004 BC).
Anyway that biblical flood was such that waters covered the entire surface of the earth so that nothing that lived on the earth survived except what was preserved in Noah’s ark. I believe that it is speculated by some creationists that Pangea breaking up was part of the process of that worldwide cataclysmic flood.
So if Noah’s flood was world wide, covered mountain tops, & took almost a year for the waters to recede sufficiently for Noah & his family to exit the ark, wouldn’t such a crater have been significantly filled with sediments so that its appearance would be markedly different?
If the crater was made post-Noah’s flood wouldn’t it’s “age” be less than 6000 years?
So after writing the above I went looking for some info here, (hope you read it Steve):
https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/did-meteors-trigger-noahs-flood/
Continuing Impacts Throughout the Flood
Many meteorite impact craters have now been identified across the earth’s surface. These have been imprinted and preserved in layers deposited by the Flood6 and are also visible on today’s post-Flood land surface, such as the famous Meteor Crater just east of Flagstaff in northern Arizona.
The impact “ages” of 110 craters (as estimated using the secular dating methods) are tabulated in Figure 2.7 Secular geologists thus believe that large meteorites crashed into the earth at a rate of 1–8 every 30 million years, but that the rate was much higher in recent times. However, those scientists who believe that the bulk of the fossil record was deposited during the Flood reach a very different conclusion. According to the Flood model, the first 71 of these 110 impacts would have occurred during the year of the Flood, and the other 39 were spread out over the 4,500 years since the Flood. (bolding emphasis is mine here, VC)
The rate during the Flood was catastrophic—71 in one year versus an average of only one impact every 115 years. Even most of those 39 post-Flood impacts likely occurred in the first few decades after the Flood, as the catastrophic processes that triggered the Flood slowed to today’s snail’s pace.
Impact Crater Early in the Flood (Figure 1)
A massive asteroid, perhaps 2.5 miles (4 km) wide, slammed into the earth at the start of the Flood, leaving a 56-mile-wide (90 km) impact crater in South Australia. Did this explosion, which equaled 50,000–100,000 hydrogen bombs, help trigger the Flood?
A History of Craters: Two Interpretations (Figure 2)
Geologists have found over a hundred impact craters on earth. On this table 39 of the 110 impacts were deposited in the uppermost rock layers, and the rest were spread over the many lower layers.
If all these layers were deposited slowly over millions of years, then impacts have been more common in recent times. But if most layers were deposited during the year-long Flood, 71 impacts occurred during only one year. The other 39 were spread over the next 4,500 years.
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“Meteorite Fall” During the Flood (Figure 3)
At a quarry in Sweden, over forty meteorites have been found in a 10-foot (3 m) section of limestone. The fragments are scattered in twelve thin beds deposited early in the Flood. They share the same metallic qualities, as though they came from one meteor, which exploded when it entered the earth’s atmosphere.
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The Flood of Noah’s Day
We cannot be certain whether God used an asteroid or swarms of asteroids to begin the Flood event and the resulting breakup of the earth’s crust into plates. However, we do find evidence that asteroids were striking the earth at catastrophic rates during the Flood and that these asteroids were spread over the earth’s surface. Asteroids surely contributed greatly to the horrific and violent geologic events that took place during God’s year of judgment of the earth.
[VC speculation about the above paragraph, I would Guess that the NEA type asteroids that you discussed above Could be the source of this violent roughly year long judgement on the earth, happening roughly 2500 BC. If the paths of those asteroids/meteors can be speculated forward in time, couldn’t they also be speculated backwards in time so that it Might be possible to suggest which one(s) might have been impacting Earth then?]
In Genesis 6:7 and 6:13 God declared that He would destroy man, beasts, creeping things, and fowl “with the earth.” This global Flood cataclysm would destroy the landscape of the original earth (2 Peter 3:6). The original landmass was broken, flooded, and pulverized. The many impact craters and fossil meteorites are stark, sober reminders that God keeps His Word.
These signs of judgment also remind us that all who trust God for salvation, like Noah, are recipients of His grace and mercy through the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus is our Ark of salvation, delivering us from the judgment by fire yet to come (2 Peter 3:7).
Dr. Andrew Snelling holds a PhD in geology from the University of Sydney and has worked as a consultant research geologist in both Australia and America. Author of numerous scientific articles, Dr. Snelling is now director of research at Answers in Genesis.
Here are footnotes 6 & 7 referred to above (sorry about the numbering):
It is filled quite deeply with debris, but that debris is not sediment, it’s largely stuff that was ejected and fell back in. Also erosion off the walls of the crater. The crater is 560 feet deep (or so); the top 690-790 feet of the floor is actually rubble from the impact (in other words the rubble is deeper than the remaining “hole” and the crater is a bit over half filled). There’s basically zero I can see here that would indicate this happened before or during any sort of worldwide flood, but then, I am not a geologist! (Nonetheless Eugene Shoemaker was a geologist and not a peep out of him about flood evidence.) So I expect that AIG would consider this a post-flood thing.
Crater counts: I would want to know a LOT more about how that data was assembled. Small craters (and Meteor Crater is actually pretty small compared to most of the really old sites we know about) tend erode fairly quickly (in terms of geologic time), so we wouldn’t expect to find old, small craters. And most craters would be small; the larger the size, the fewer asteroids of that size. Dust grains which cause your typical shooting star are quite common, gravel less so, boulders less than that, and so on. Did AIG account for this? Another thing is this graph might show a real scientist’s raw cataloguing of known impact sites–with the scientist making the points I just made. AIG is not above ripping such a chart out of context, dropping the caveats the originator put on it (such as “this is a raw count and you shouldn’t use this as an absolute count of metorite impact events over time because” the things I just mentioned and probably more I am unaware of) and using it as “evidence.” Whether that’s what happened in this case, I don’t know.
The 4004 BCE date is of course from Archbishop Ussher’s calculations. If for whatever reason, we were to decide to number our years since then (a not illogical thing to think of if you actually believe that date marks the Beginning), the current year would be 6027 (remember that there was no year zero, 1BCE was followed by 1CE). If you’ve ever noticed that the current Hebrew/Jewish year is 5784, well…that is because THAT number is based on a different computation of when the Earth must have formed…based on other scholars reading the same texts (the Hebrew Bible a/k/a the Old Testament). The Byzantine empire, whose official religion was Eastern Orthodoxy, did their own calculations and set their year to be the “Anno Mundi” year of the world, and today would be September 28 7533 (or perhaps September 15, Old Style) on that calendar.
Which leads me to believe there’s a lot in the OT chronologies open to some interpretation, given the wide variety of answers (almost a two thousand year spread) people get making the computations!
4004 BCE is the most commonly cited date here in the US, largely because Ussher’s numbers were added to the margin notes of many early printings of the KJV (and for all I know, may still be included in some editions; my copy does not have them). I certainly don’t try to pin Young Earth creationists down to an exact date; literally any answer under ten million years ago is ridiculous from my point of view (as well as from most geologists’ point of view…and they’d likely think I made that number way too small), and from your point of view will be a shocking surprise to conventional science if/when proven. I’m not going to quibble over a couple of thousand years under those circumstances; and they wouldn’t be able to either even assuming their heads didn’t explode–IF you were proven right.
[I tried to phrase this in a somewhat-neutral fashion, as if I think it could turn out y’all are right even though I think it’s ridiculous…but it happens I’ve been looking into this sort of thing a LOT lately…and the news gets worse and worse for you the deeper I dig. It’s not just wrong, but it’s becoming plain to me that the “professional” young earth creationists are willfully ignoring things at best and damned liars at the worst–the same psychology as flat earthers, where you wonder if they just have a mental block or are lying through their teeth. There are people who pour lots of time into debunks…the sort of time I don’t have…and it’s amazing some of the things they have found.]
Ah, this one I can answer off the top of my head. Well, maybe. I’m not completely sure I understand the question. So I’ll answer a couple of different possible interpretations in the hopes that one of them will be responsive.
It’s very unlikely that we could identify the body that caused the impacts–especially since what hit gets destroyed. In other words, the body doesn’t exist now, how could we point to it? When we do know something, it’s from one of two methods (that I know about, anyway):
First: Tracking. We can backtrack the Chelyabinsk impactor because we have loads of data, largely from peoples’ dashcams (they are ubiquitous in Russia; I’ve even heard that car insurance requires them because of too many instances of people causing crashes for the payout); given the time of day and time of year, we can put together a “track” and actually plot the orbit around the sun of the object that hit. But there’s nothing there any more since Earth got in the way that morning.
We have no idea what time of day Meteor Crater happened, nor what time of year (OK perhaps they were able to make a determination of time of year I’m unaware of). We do have an estimate (not as precise as Chelyabinsk by any means) of the direction and angle of impact, but that alone does no good without knowing which way the Earth was facing when it happened!
Chicxulub (the one that ended the Mesozoic) was probably in June; we know from buried plants that it was late spring. What time of day? No idea, really (that I am aware of). And even June doesn’t help us with an absolute orientation, because of precession of the equinoxes. That has the effect of having June be at one location on the Earth’s orbit (as seen from a “god’s eye” stationary view–one traveling with the solar system) at one time, and a different location another time, after some precession of the axis of rotation has occured. Our seasons, and hence our months, are determined not by our position in our orbit around our sun, but the orientation of the Earth’s axis with respect to the sun. From one year to the next the first moment of summer is when the earth is in nearly the same location, but it does shift a bit, and over the course of 25,000 years or so makes a complete trip along the earth’s orbit.
The second method, has to do with analyzing the fragments of the meteorite. Sometimes we can find a positive match with a known body…in one famous case we know the meteor originated on Mars! This works, when pieces were blasted off the parent body, and the parent body hasn’t been destroyed yet.
OK, but something in your phrasing indicates you might be talking about today’s tracking of NEOs. And thinking a lot of it is imprecise. We’ve all seen stories that say there’s such-and-such likelihood that some asteroid (usually Apophis) will hit in such-and-such year. If orbital mechanics is an exact science, why don’t they know for certain?
Orbital mechanics is exact…for the two body problem, one object orbiting another, both ideal Newtonian bodies of spherically symmetric composition. Set that up, and they’ll orbit each other forever, not only that but given a time, any time, you can plug the time into an equation and out pops a position. But no actual existing body is perfect like that; the earth for instance has an equatorial bulge and a slightly uneven mass distribution. Well, there are ways to account for that sort of thing (and we have to; it changes the would-be position of low earth orbit satellites by hundreds of miles per day), just making the equations more complex.
But when you introduce a third body, things go right to hell in a handbasket. Mathematicians call those formulas “closed form” because you can plug a number in, turn the crank, literally do a bunch of math on a calculator, and get an answer. Introduce third bodies, and either: the third body has to be ignored, which is safe (as long as you’re not talking billions of years) if the body is small compared to the others. Or you have to numerically integrate. Which is to say, set up a computer model, have it step forward some increment of time based on current speeds and positions, then you have new speeds and positions. Step forward again, to get another set of speeds and positions. Repeat, possibly millions of times…and possibly with dozens, thousands, or millions of objects! Every step introduces a small error, due to roundoff (numbers aren’t infinitely precise) or because we can’t properly curve things from one interval to the next. You fight that latter factor by making your time steps smaller and there are other algorithmic tricks too that cause errors to build up less rapidly. (I got to work with this sort of thing a fair amount in college, I’m not doing the subject justice.)
Near Earth object predictions must account for the sun, planets, moons, and…other asteroids. And we do not know about all of them. Something like Apophis could encounter (not hit, but just pass nearby) a nice one mile wide object we don’t know about and have its orbit shifted. We can’t predict that, because we don’t even know the object exists. THAT’s why they can’t predict too far in advance. Also, even if we knew about every single object out there, we STILL couldn’t do it perfectly because we don’t have exact position, velocity and mass data, and even the tiniest of errors can build up over the years…this is what they are talking about when they talk about chaos theory.
OK last one:
To their credit, most YECers now acknowledge the existence of continental drift, and the breakup of Pangea, which (conventionally speaking) began a couple of hundred million years ago and is still ongoing, is considered to have in fact all happened during the Flood (and some even go back to Rodinia, the supercontinent before Pangea, and claim that during the flood, Rodinia broke up, the pieces moved around, reassembled into Pangea, then broke up again and moved to their current positions…all in one year, instead of hundreds of millions of years.
Either way, this action running at such high speed (instead of centimeters per year, kilometers per day) introduces a BIG problem for creationism. It would generate enough heat to completely melt the crust of the Earth. Add to that the heat from accelerated radioactive decay (so that rocks would look billions of years old when you do radiometric dating on them), and the entire crust, if not the entire planet would not just melt, but boil and vaporize. (I don’t care how well Noah built the ark…he’d have been toast.) The heat has been compared to setting off tens or even hundreds of hydrogen bombs in every cubic kilometer of the planet! (The discrepancy in the numbers of bombs comes from the fact that some YECs believe about 500 million years’ worth of decay happened in a year, versus others who think 4.5 billion years worth happened in just that year.
AIG is basically flailing around, trying to deal with this. And it gets much much worse than that the more you dig; it’s not just unlikely but downright ridiculous to suggest that decay rates could just change like this.
And now for my soapbox:
The fundamental problem here, is that YECers have a final answer in mind, a presupposition. When new evidence comes in that seems to indicate that answer is in fact wrong, they have to either a) ignore or b) torture it to death to try to make it consistent with their pre-supposed answer or c) just flat outright lie.
Conventional geology doesn’t function like this. The 4.5 billion year old earth is NOT a pre-supposition (as many YECers like to claim) but the result of a lot of evidence that has piled up since we first started doing geology. The first geologists from the 1700s actually set out with their mission being to use science to prove that the Bible was correct! Instead they were forced to conclude the opposite–at least, if the Bible is read absolutely literally as it is by many fundamentalists. (There are plenty of Christians who have a reading that is consistent with an old Earth; AIG of course will argue that that’s the wrong way to read the Bible. But I will say this (and it will offend some people–tough shit!). If that’s the right way to read the Bible, then the Bible isn’t just wrong, it’s laughably wrong.
Those of us who believe always have what sceptics might call an ‘out’ – called Divine Intervention. We believe the answer to the sort of apparent impossibilities that you describe is God divinely altered our reality to make those things fit.
Why He would do this is described most plainly in the tale of Gideon and the 300. Gideon asked God why he was sending him into battle with such a small number against an overwhelming force. God answered him, so you will know it was not your power that delivered victory to you.
I’m not trying to convince anybody it’s correct; merely that it exists and is taken seriously by many who believe God is real and involved with us.
Well said–TY!
I Really Appreciate your answer, so well thought out & touching on many aspects of a number of the issues in play here!!! Thank you for taking the time!!!
I wondered if you might consider it (young earth creationism) to be akin to flat earth 🙂
“The fundamental problem here, is that YECers have a final answer in mind, a presupposition. When new evidence comes in that seems to indicate that answer is in fact wrong, they have to either a) ignore or b) torture it to death to try to make it consistent with their pre-supposed answer or c) just flat outright lie.”
I agree that having a presupposition is problematic, but others also have a troublesome one. Many, not all, scientists presuppose that there is no God. Because of this viewpoint they do not allow results to be accounted for by the existence & actions of “God”, which I believe is also an egregious blind spot 🙂
It would be fascinating to discover if there are any qualified Agnostic scientists out there that could look into these issues via rigorous application of the scientific method, not paid for answers by whatever interested party. They could “debunk” the “science” of both sides, YECs vs “atheistic” scientists because they could leave room for either side (& other positions) to be “right” because they are not boxed in by said answer-limiting presuppositions.
I think you’ve done a great job to raise important points & attempted to do so by taking into consideration alternate points of view (that you don’t agree with but are able to approximately articulate) with grace & humor & Lots of Science & Math, Kudos
Many scientists..at some levels, even a majority, are believers of some sort (though few are fundamentalist Christians).
So it’s not a matter of “scientists are atheists, therefore they presuppose divine miracles can’t be part of the answer.”
It’s just that we’ve never, ever found something we couldn’t explain…then eventually realized it had to be a miracle. Every time we’ve solved a mystery about how the world works, it has been a naturalistic explanation. It’s not to say that the next time can’t be the one, but right now the score is 0 to millions against.
And a miracle is by definition something that would be impossible whilst following the laws of nature. Not just some ridiculously unlikey occurrence like Trump turning his head aside at the right moment..but something impossible. Like maybe the bullet stopping in mid-air a foot from his face (Matrix movie style) without any of the known forces being responsible.
Scientists, believers and non-believers, WON’T take something they have a perfectly satisfactory naturalistic explanation of, and say “well, maybe this explanation is wrong and God did it with a miracle.” Why should they. They already have an explanation that doesn’t require the miracle…which is an unlikely event by definition.
That’s the situation involved with Young Earth Creationism. The standard explanation and evidence that the earth is old works, very very well despite all the lies and bullshit to the contrary, and it’s just absurd to say, “no, we’ve got to start with the assumption that the earth is really 6-10 thousand years old in spite of all appearances to the contrary, and come up with tortured explanations for how the earth can be 6000 years old but LOOK like it is 4.5 billion years old.” But that’s what AIG, et. al., are doing.
Even Answers in Genesis has finally conceded that radiometric dating shows millions or even billions of years’ worth of past radioactivity; but they HAVE to work towards the pre-determined conclusion that Earth is 6-10K years old, so they invent the phenomenon of accelerated radioactive decay to make it work. There’s absolutely no sign that this ever happened…other than that otherwise the Earth can’t be young. And oh by the way there is good theoretical reason to believe that accelerated radioactive decay can’t happen. So now they’re in the position of denying solid theory, decades of consistent observations, AND MORE (read AIG’s stuff on the heat problem–it’s fatal to coming up with a naturalistic way the Earth can be young, so they’re rapidly closing in on “we have to posit a miracle)…to try to jam what we see into “but the Earth is young anyway.”
Science is about studying the natural world. As soon as someone says, “A miracle happened here” they simply aren’t being scientific. Even if they turn out to be right. So if AIG ends up positing miracles to get around their self-inflicted contradictions…then creationism can no longer even try to claim to be “scientific.”
“And a miracle is by definition something that would be impossible whilst following the laws of nature. Not just some ridiculously unlikely occurrence like Trump turning his head aside at the right moment…but something impossible. Like maybe the bullet stopping in mid-air a foot from his face (Matrix movie style) without any of the known forces being responsible.”
I had two different pastors that claimed to personally have experienced miracles. One was in a hotel room with a staff person when a deranged individual broke in & shot him 3 times in the chest but the bullets bounced off of him & fell to the floor. When he spoke of this in church he had the staff person come up to confirm the info.
The other pastor was doing street ministry in Detroit when he was accosted by thugs & stabbed a couple times, iirc. He got in his car to drive away & found himself almost immediately in front of his home, presumably having been “translated” like Phillip was after baptizing the Ethiopian Eunuch in the NT.
I witnessed a miracle when a young college student. I was on a break with a friend in Johnstown, PA & for some reason we went to some prayer or healing event in town (that wasn’t something I would normally do). In the row in front of me a couple seats over there was a young child who appeared to be blind with the lack of control of the eye muscles in the arms of an adult. There was prayer over this child & then someone flicked a lighter with the flame up a couple times in front of the child’s face. I was seated in the perfect spot to Directly See this happen. The first flick of the flame got no response, the 2nd a partial response, & then the third time the eyes rolled around a bit before directly focusing on the flame before looking in love & joy into the face of the one holding them & grasping the neck of their parent. It was incredibly moving for all around, probably not a dry eye in the place, & I don’t believe it was faked.
“Science is about studying the natural world.” Yes & it should be rational & repeatable, when possible. In dealing with events thousands or millions of years before our time we obviously can’t “Know” for we cannot observe exactly what happened nor can it be repeated. Theories should account for known facts. Uncomfortable “facts” should not be dodged because they call pet theories into question.
My understanding is that there is evidence of a younger Earth that is accepted by YECs but is ignored by those who think the Earth is millions of years old. For instance there are supposedly fossilized trees standing through “millions of years” of rock where the YECs would likely claim that it is evidence of huge sediments being laid down rapidly in The Flood.
https://answersingenesis.org/kids/noahs-ark/flood-fossils/
I think it is important to keep open dialogue between those of differing views on these matters in an “iron sharpens iron” manner. This can benefit All parties by causing them to refine their positions & expose areas of error or misunderstanding. Agreeing to disagree as is necessary but not denigrating the others’ views since there isn’t “ultimate proof” of these complex issues in this life. Finding flaws in each others’ arguments & theories would lead to improving the theories I would hope!
Strictly speaking this isn’t evidence for a younger earth. It may be evidence that stratigraphy is misunderstood, in which case it calls into question some (but by no means all) of the evidence for an older earth, and it could call into question…so there’s have to be a different explanation. But the correct explanation could be all kinds of things. It’s not a case of either the conventional science is right or the YECs are right; they could both be wrong. That’s a general philosophical point.
However, the simple fact of the matter is that geologists and paleontologists have actually addressed this issue, so little of what I said in the previous paragraph actually applies.
This is a YEC dishonest tactic. They give their own name for something, so that when you google it, all you find is their own sites, and you get the impression that the real scientists are ignoring the subject. From your link: “These are called polystrate fossils, which means “many layers.””
No they’re not, they’re called “upright” or “standing” fossils and you’ll find plenty of “Old Earth” stuff on them if you use THAT term rather than the AIG term.
As I said this is a YEC dishonest tactic; they’re deliberately trying to make it look as if paleontologists are ignoring this because it’s “inconvenient.” And I have to ask, “If the Truth is on your side, why lie?“
TY for these clarifications, much appreciated!
From your comment it seems you are interested in aspects of the Biblical flood recorded in Genesis. Just this week I started reading a book that addresses the Flood from a Biblical perspective. I am presently only a few pages in so I can’t give a book report, but I have included the preface of the book to allow you to add the book to your research if you so desire. Walton has done a series of these books called the Lost World where his intention is to interpret the Old Testament from the author’s worldview rather than our 21st century perspective. I am in the process of reading all the books in this series. All are interesting. This is not a mass audience book but from what I have read of your faith you will have no problems understanding the argument Walton makes. I doubt you will find this book in a public library but maybe it will be in a Christian bookstore.
Preface
Four previous works in the Lost World series have established its underlying concepts:
• Accessible discussion of a topic of current popular (not just academic) interest
• Addressed through propositions that move the reader through a logical sequence of the principal points of discussion
• Based on a fresh, close reading of the Hebrew text
• Informed by knowledge of the ancient Near Eastern literature and cognitive environment
• Undergirded by a consistently applied hermeneutic that finds God’s authoritative message in the text represented in the communication as understood by the human source (speaker or writer) and his audience—working out the principle that the Bible is written for us, but not to us
The account of the flood (situated in the context of Genesis 1–11) is inarguably an excellent candidate for such a study. It provides an example of a text that has been subjected to many modern readings as interpreters focus on apologetics and scientific and historical reconstruction of the event. We will argue that these not only miss the point but potentially distort the biblical message.
The issues the Lost World books deal with are inherently controversial—that is why they remain issues of debate. Consequently, any treatment of them will be controversial, as this one will be. For open-minded readers who are seeking an interpretation that will make sense to them, we invite you to plunge in and engage the options we have proposed.
As always in the Lost World books, the intention is not to offer the single “correct” interpretation of the text. We seek, instead, to provide an interpretation based on a conviction that the Bible is the Word of God—Scripture that speaks truly. At the same time we recognize the importance of genre, of an understanding of the ancient world, and of the importance of a sound hermeneutic for arriving at an understanding of that truth. Our goal is not to convert the reader to our conclusions, or even to persuade the reader to adopt our way of thinking. Instead, we seek to bring information to the reader’s attention that has helped us as we have struggled with the passages. If readers deem that information useful and beneficial, we are gratified. But for readers who cannot accept our findings, believing that Scripture makes claims that require other conclusions, we hope that at least we have shown how our particular interpretation is the result of faithful interpretation.
John H. Walton, Tremper Longman III, and Stephen O. Moshier, The Lost World of the Flood: Mythology, Theology, and the Deluge Debate (Westmont, IL: IVP Academic, 2018), vii–viii.
ThanQ. It’s now on my bucket list.
TY for sharing this, which sounds like an excellent read! I will look into it 🙂
I was thinking of looking into the original Hebrew, likely using the Blue Letter Bible website, to see if any of the descriptive words from the Biblical account might line up with that asteroid theory. In the AIG piece I quoted they briefly touch on how the rain may have started. I believe that it is theorized that the pre-flood world was very different & that the atmosphere was different. There wasn’t rain before the Flood, iirc, so that water coming down to Earth was perhaps more like a terrarium, lots of dew…
I just looked it up on the library system & they have 2 of his Lost World books available, but not the Flood. I requested the one on Adam & Eve 🙂
Fascinating read. Thanks!
Have driven past the I-40 exit for the Meteor site, several dozens times. Crazy, but ten this past year alone. Will make time to visit in October. I assume walk around the crater. Hope down into AND across the crater. If nothing else, we enjoy walking AND an ideal pit stop.
Our return drive just increased by one day. Guessing RON Gallup, NM.
Have walked down into a cauldron in Volcanoes National Park, HI. Pretty cool stuff.
Oh, then I had better manage some expectations!
No, you cannot walk into or through the crater.
You can walk partway around the rim as part of a guided tour. The visitor center is perched on the rim.
It’s not cheap…it’s not a national monument or anything like that, it’s privately owned, apparently by the descendants of Barringer. I am personally happy to pay the price of admission for this reason and the fact that I think it’s a valuable site.
Daniel Barringer in 1903 suggested it was a meteor impact crater, claimed the land, and attempted to drill to reach the meteorite (which he believed would end up being 100 million tons of iron-nickel, worth over a billion dollars even back then), but never found it. He assumed it had come in vertically, in fact it came in at a slant. (He assumed this based on the shape of the crater, but it turns out that shape is formed even with impacts at a slant.) He failed to find it, and eventually hired an astronomer to look into the physics. The astronomer ended up estimating the mass of the impactor at only 300,000 tons, and realized the heat of entry and impact had probably melted it. There are indeed blobs of melted iron nickel around the site, many are in the museum that’s part of the visitor center.
Eugene Shoemaker (of Shoemaker Levy fame) also did a lot of work here; when he began his work very few geologists took meteor impacts very seriously, but he learned how to tell from the rocks that an impact had occurred. He then went to the Ries in Germany, determined to see if he could prove IT was a meteor impact crater, and he didn’t have to go very far at all. The walls of the cathedral in the largest city there, it turns out, were made of stone that showed all the diagnostics of having been subjected to the stresses of an impact!
Nowadays, largely thanks to him, we take this very seriously.
National Geographic did one of their documentaries on this whole story. I doubt it can be found for free, but it’s very much worth watching. (I bought my copy of it…guess where!)
Appreciate the heads up. Definitely good to know.
Private ownership (Indian) and other stuff is why I scrubbed Grand Canyon North Rim visit.
Quick look at the web site, we’ll still visit the Meteor site. Likely a couple hours. Will be interesting, educational and great memories.
40+ years ago my family & friends from Tucson, who used to live in Michigan & attend our church, camped out on the North Rim. I do recall that we had to pay for showers, 50 cents for 5 minutes. My dad gave me ceaseless crap because he & my 2 brothers shared one 5 minute shower but I needed 10 minutes (which was Very Short for my teen self) to handle my long hair.
It seems like we just pulled off the road near the edge of the North Rim to camp & it wasn’t actually a camp ground, but I could be wrong about that. We did see a cowboy who drove up in a pickup truck & then rode his horse on a switchback trail down into the canyon.
We 6 kids did some cutting across country, as in heading straight down the canyon sides instead of using the cowboy’s switchback dirt trail. I was wearing shorts & slid by some type of thorn bushes that sliced up my thighs pretty good & left scars visible for some months (I thought these were cool/sexy LOL).
I’m pretty sure we didn’t have to pay to be along the canyon there but that was in the late 70s I believe.
One highlight was watching the fog roll into the canyon from the rim, I think around dusk. Good times & great memories!
By now you realize it’s west of Winslow…quite far from Gallup or even Holbrook (BTW the Motel 6 in Holbrook is an absolute shithole, even by Motel 6 standards–that’s as of about ten years ago, so maybe they’ve fixed it up…and maybe they haven’t).
Yea. Hollbrook, Winslow are at most gas stops. Generally Love’s or Pilot along the Interstate. Sleep or food, Flagstaff or Gallup.
Visiting the Meteor site will only add ~three hours in the days trek. Not an added day as envisioned earlier today.
Spring or summer we’ll wedge in a trip through Four Corners. Will have a couple Grands with us. They’ll likely Twister of sorts.
Four corners definitely IS an over exploited tourist trap; expect to be mobbed by Navajos wanting to make a buck, and they’ve started charging admission.
Now I’m just the sort of weirdo who will want to go anyway, because it’s a bit of a nerd thing.
And OBTW if you find claims that it’s in the wrong place about three miles west of where they should be, those claims are BS. The people who originated the claims assumed that the western border of Colorado and New Mexico is at exactly 109 W longitude. In fact it’s at 109 degrees, about 3 minutes West longitude, because many “vertical” borders in the Western US were defined in terms of “degrees west of Washington DC” rather than in relation to Greenwich. (The border between OK and NM is actually defined against Greenwich, which is why it’s slightly shifted from the NM TX border, giving NM a very, very stubby panhandle in the NE corner of the state.)
Winslow, Arizona, some music comes to mind 😉 Time to take it easy 😎
I think at least parts of the North Rim are national park service…that rim walk on the glass balcony is not, however, if that’s what you’re thinking of. Very, very expensive.
It’s interesting that you seem down on private ownership in general; I actually find it to be a good thing in the case of Barringer; they clearly have put a lot of thought into it, and they didn’t produce a lot of sensationalistic pseudoscience. (OK, signs on the way in announcing “meteor crossing” and differential speed limits for cars versus meteors are a bit silly, but you do see not-even-dad-level-humor like that in a lot of places.)
The white domed building for “meteor city” immediately off the interstate is not affiliated with the actual Meteor Crater company, and is a bit of a tourist trap.
Good info. Will revisit North Rim potential. Had only heard less than charitable thoughts regrading glass balcony…
I would consider doing that balcony…were it 1/3 of its actual price.
BTW, it’s on the South Rim, not the north rim.
my aunt drove there some years back & the roads were Atrocious, they lost a hub cap, as did Many Others! The price was outrageous so few in their party were willing to pay…
Resonates.
“A very enjoyable read, with the right message. All we need to do is let Israel win, and not get in the way.” ht Wolf
This one should be Required Reading by every dumbass in the White House, Pentagon, entire military Active Duty, Reserves, AND idiots in the Department of State.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/killing-nasrallah
Patton was crystal clear…
Putin might have to be careful here, this makes the decapitation a countries leadership more acceptable in the eyes of that part of the international community clamoring for Ukraine to bomb into Russia. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Kremlin is not the next target. Lord knows they are currently going after Trump.
Nasrallah was not a “country’s leadership.” He was the leader of a terrorist organization.
If America took out the head of MS-13, is that the same as assassinating the President of Mexico?
Why do people insist on giving terrorists legitimacy?
I chose my words carefully. He’s part of Lebanon’s leadership by sheer numbers of people he represents.
27% of the population was Sunni, 27% Shia, 21% Maronite, 8% Greek Orthodox, 5% Druze, 5% Melkite, and 1% Protestant, with the remaining 6% mostly belonging to smaller non-native to Lebanon Christian denominations.
The left calls MAGA terrorists.
I think Aubergine was using U.N. standards. [no offense, Aubergine]. The Hez don’t have a seat at the G.A.; ergo, it is not recognized as such.
This is a case where you both are correct.
I am unoffended. I am very hard to offend. I just think what I think, and not much changes about that.
Lol. Come on. You don’t think Nasrallah is comparable to MAGA, and neither does anyone sane.
Nasrallah is a stone killer with thousands of deaths he is directly responsible for. He is not an elected leader. He is not a legitimate government representative. Period.
I couldn’t care less how people “frame it;” eliminating a terrorist is not equivalent to eliminating the President of Russia. And the international community would not see it that way, either.
Guessing Putin is very careful.
Quite surprised here, Zelensky and his entire Command Structure has not been taken out. Puzzling, it is.
The consequences of killing an even quasi-legitimate elected leader and killing an actual terrorist would be very different. Different enough that it is a deterrent.
George C. Scott did a great job of portraying Patton. I was curious to know what Patton really sounded like and found this clip. His voice was higher than Scott’s. To see Patton, start at about 1:00. He had an engaging smile which I imagine was more evident after the stress of the war was over.
A British general witnessed..
The Truth of The IDF’s Conduct in Gaza and Hamas’ Brutality on Oct.7
read, here…
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-821932
9/28
Am Yisrael Chai
People don’t want to think about the atrocities inflicted by the terrorists. They want to hate Israel. It just baffles me how people second guess the killing of those who want nothing but the deaths of Jews, bu Jews. That’s it; that’s their stated goal. All dead. And yet, when Jews kill the killers, it’s somehow their fault. Nasrallah was a monster. A homicidal lunatic. He died in a hole. Yay.
I guess I personalize it. If it was me, and all somebody wanted was me dead and they were trying to kill me in my own house, I would kill them.
Looking forward to learning more about this.
UPDATE: North Carolina Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson at Home After Being Treated for Burns After “Incident” at Campaign Stop
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/breaking-north-carolina-lt-gov-mark-robinson-hospital/
Thank you for this.
According to the New York Post story on the incident, Mr. Robinson had second-degree burns to his hand from leaning on the truck at the campaign stop.
This is on top of the allegations that he posted to a porn site, that he made statements that “slavery is a good thing” and that “he would buy a few slaves himself.”
This is on top of the apparent resignations of many of his campaign staff after the stories of the above surfaced.
This is on top of the interview that Mr. Robinson and his wife gave regarding their decision decades ago to abort their child.
thanks for the information.
Porn site thing smacks of 100% smear. Purely unbelievable statement attributed to him.
Then, seemingly without blinking, much of his campaign staff resigns.Smacks of J6 AND staff bailing out on Trump.
Did not know about aborting a child. Hope they regret it. Be surprised if they don’t.
Quite the coincidence, so much is coming out. Is/was leading the race to guvner house.
I smell several rats with knives.
Not much quality in that campaign staff if a bunch quit at the first artillery attack. He might have been given a silver lining in that dark cloud – flush out and replace the weaklings before the real fighting starts.
I don’t know which reports, and which people, are credible. It seems that every article and video is slanted one way or the other: either blaming Israel or excusing Israel. It also seems that both sides have an answer for every mitigating factor that anyone brings up, making each report seem like propaganda in some form.
Random thoughts.
There are four or five seemingly popular talking heads absolutely shredding any and everything Israel does. Hellbent on a single angle. Israel 100% B A D. Which I do not understand at all.
I have no idea how Israel will make peace with neighboring countries.
But Israel absolute should never have to accept daily missile attacks. Areas of Israel uninhabitable, because of those missile attacks. Nor should Israel have to endure Oct 7 or random terrorist hits.
THIS stuff must be addressed. Neutralized. Only then can peace with neighbors be pursued.
I agree.
islam has no place for peace, only submission.
Like Borg.
islam is the problem. Not the practice of islam, but the teaching of islam. islam is at war with humanity, and always has been.
islam is a belief system of hate and violence. So long as islam exists, any kind of peace in the world is a literal impossibility.
Verse of the Day for Saturday, September 28, 2024
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“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”
Matthew 7:15 (KJV)
Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!
PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD
Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.
I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.
Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.
May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.
With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.
Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me.
Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.
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MIRACLES, SIGNS, AND WONDERS
When you discern a sign what comes to mind
Is it a warning or portend combined
Does it alarm you or charm your senses
Do you take heed or disarm your defenses
The contrast between the natural true
And what’s in the supernatural queue
A sign or wonder in the mind’s eye
An ordinary occurrence nigh
The secret to both is to whom they point
And to what they prophesy and anoint
The purpose is your awareness of God
To recognize His power and be awed
An unexpected divine intervention
Is sure to inspire and get attention
The problem arises when fake seems real
Forged apparitions have their appeal
False prophets perform actions that fool
Their manifestations fail as a rule
Signs seek to enhance bring about belief
Wonders serve as signs of future relief
Miracles are evidence of God’s power
They last for much longer than an hour
Healing comes not from man or of his hand
That was never designed or even planned
Only God can work wonders and give signs
By His great love and His power confines
The miraculous is in His domain alone
There’s no greater gift from God ever known
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Thank You Duchess. 🙂
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Following up on something Yours Truly brought to the board yesterday, about Hurricane Helene, one’s opinion:
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=253685
“Weaponized Hurricane Helene: Here’s why the superstorm was deliberately intensified to a Cat 4 at landfall and aimed right at Taylor County, Florida.”
Yours Truly: IMO, while it may be true that Helene was “calibrated” to make it easier for a wealthy land investor to buy up Taylor County, there may be “other interests” at play.
Example: the state of Georgia was just ordered to use paper ballots only, handed out by poll workers, for the elections in November 2024. Hurricane Helene follows on the heels of this court order, striking Georgia terribly hard and killing at least 11 persons. The damage will take months to clean up. People have lost their homes and/or jobs due to houses and buildings damaged or destroyed.
Example: SC, NC, TN have catastrophic storm damage and flooding. The damage will take months to clean up. People have lost their homes and/or jobs due to houses and buildings damaged or destroyed.
All of the above mean an opportunity for pushing “mail-in ballots” for the November election.
IMO, TPTB and their cabals will literally stop at nothing to ensure that “KamaCackle” is installed as President in January 2025. And, also, that TPTB and their cabals turn both houses of Congress and as many state- and local-level elected offices as possible into DemCommunist strongholds.
IMO, if that means, to TPTB and their cabals, that storms are intensified / weaponized / “targeted to certain areas” via HAARP and other methods so that “mail-in ballots” is the only way to vote in November; that people like Mark Robinson of NC are literally slandered into losing the 2024 election (and, by the way, why was there “all of a sudden” a truck at a car show that burned his hand when he leaned on it during a campaign stop yesterday?); that Donald Trump, after escaping two recent assassination attempts, may now be in danger from heat-seeking missiles blowing his aircraft up while he’s traveling in it (think TWA800); and much more — IMO, these are all “within acceptable limits” to TPTB and their cabals.
I put nothing past Deep State AND World Economic Forum.
IF technology exists to manipulate weather as suggested, They Will Do It.
Trump Must Bes Stopped.
Foolish to think that the technology does not exist. It was enough of a threat that a world wide treaty was put into effect 77-78 time frame to stop use of this tech and the US was one of the very last to sign on. It’s most certain that the everything went underground at that time so the treaty could be circumvented and the tech exploited.
There is no evidence that technology to manipulate hurricanes exists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention
Note that herbicides like Agent Orange are mentioned as a type of environmental modification technique. Another that is addressed is cloud seeding, which was used during the Vietnam War. Nowhere is there anything about causing hurricane damage or changing the path of a hurricane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_warfare
Nothing about causing, changing the path of, or intensifying hurricanes.
We can assert that “of course they’re doing it,” but there is no evidence of it. I firmly believe that white hats would know something if this were being developed and tried.
If there is no evidence, you shouldn’t assume it does exist.
Going backwards…you shouldn’t assume it doesn’t exist since we don’t know, is absolutely the wrong way to argue things. You shouldn’t assume green Martian chicks with four boobs (WGTTTTs?) don’t exist either.
We might see one of those quadri-boobed gals any day now. 👽
From the link:
Where is the author’s evidence of a “dramatic uptick in the incidence of Cat 3, 4, and 5 hurricanes”? or that storms have been aimed at a specific target? Why does he expect us to take his word, and why do some people just take his word?
The Global Warming Policy Foundation:
From that paper:
The increasing number of hurricanes and more intense (destructive winds / rain, is akin to global warming and climate change. IMO.
If I listen to NOAA and the Fed annual predictions, the sky is falling. Reality, the sky hasn’t budged from my vantage. Click bait job justification…need more tax money.
I watch the NOAA National Hurricane Center site almost daily during season. The named Atlantic storms are half what they predicted this season. Only a few have hit the continental US. The vast majority have churned out in the middle of the ocean, wandered around and died.
The weather people act like two year olds.
😂 at two year olds. Painfully true.
And if the storm begins rotation, they name it!
Exactly, just like they do in the winter when they predict 12″ of snow and we get flurries.
Also regarding this, from the link:
🔵 Category 3 Atlantic hurricanes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_3_Atlantic_hurricanes
1850s – 1890s – 45
1900s – 1940s – 41
1950s – 1990s – 47 – 5 decades, average of 9.4 hurricanes per decade
• 13 in the 1950s
• 9 in the 1960s
• 7 in the 1970s
• 7 in the 1980s
• 11 in the 1990s
2000s – 2020s – 29 – 3 decades, average of 9.6 hurricanes per decade
• 13 in the 2000s
• 12 in the 2010s
• 4 in the 2020s so far
There has been no dramatic uptick in the numbers of Category 3 hurricanes.
🔵 Category 4 Atlantic hurricanes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_4_Atlantic_hurricanes
1851-1949 – 44
1950-1974 – 23
1975-1999 – 23 – about 1 per year
• 1975-1979 – 4
• 1980-1989 – 7
• 1990-1999 – 12
2000-present – 38 – about 1.5 per year
• 2000-2009 – 15
• 2010-2019 – 12
• 2020-the present – 11
There has been an increase in Category 4 hurricanes in recent years, but I think it is a stretch to call it “dramatic” until we have more data that analyzes all the factors affecting hurricane season from year to year.
🔵 Category 5 Atlantic hurricanes to strike the US:
Only 4 in history
The 1935 Labor Day Hurricane – considered the strongest ever, Florida KeysHurricane Camille (1969) – Mississippi, considered the second strongestHurricane Andrew (1992) – South Miami-Dade CountyHurricane Michael (2018) – Florida PanhandleNo “dramatic uptick” in Category 5 hurricanes striking the US, either.
There were 34 years between the first and the second, 23 years between the second and third, and 26 years between the third and fourth, so no increase in frequency.
The only recent increase is in the number of Category 4 hurricanes — so the author’s claim is false — and it could probably be explained by a lot of factors such as ocean temperatures, record-keeping, and others that I’m not aware of.
Example:
I don’t know how others evaluate the veracity of what they read, but when someone either presents no data to back up their claims or they generalize to the point of falsity to make a point, I don’t consider them a credible source. It makes me question everything they say.
Try this!
https://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-change-is-increasing-the-strength-and-frequency-of-hurricanes/
Excellent! I’m saving that.
TT, I have come to the conclusion that it is simply more fun to have a conspiracy theory about uncontrollable events in ones life than to just have to deal with it. That includes government, weather, and most world events. We have no control over any of it, but it is much more interesting and fun to think that somebody evil does. It’s like a movie or a video game that you can live in, not just a crappy circumstance that sucks.
Interesting story apparently coming to light now or being revisited. Not sure, but never heard of it before.
Yikes.
Unsettling, is an understatement.
Found dead. Guess not an obvious Arkencide. Double tap to the back of the head.
I do wonder what else she knew about Merck. OR, Merck thought she knew.
More than enough reasonable suspicion to start a criminal investigation to see if there is any crime and are there any suspects.
We’ll see if the appropriate officials do so.
Lemme guess what appropriate officials do, or did back at the time. Been years since this gal was sent on her way. (Murdered.)
And in other news.
Hahahaha!
Exploded pagers, a gift that keeps on delivering.
h/t Insty —
😂
been a rough week for the Jew haters…
will they try to blame the Zionists for the hurricane, too ?
It’s probably a Jew in charge of HAARP…which many of them are blaming. So your comment may have been meant sarcastically, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
“It’s probably a Jew in charge of HAARP…”
well !
that sure didn’t take long.
LOL!
I hope you realize I am agreeing with you. Lots of sarcasm in that first sentence.
oh.
ok.
appreciate the clarification.
👍
Didn’t Jews invent HAARP? I’m sure I read that somewhere.
Probably Al Jazeera.
Ok, that’s friggin’ hilarious.
The rivers are rising due to the rains from Helene. There are several Flood Warnings issued for areas in NC:
http://www.localconditions.com/weather-goldsboro-north-carolina/27530/alerts.php
Goldsboro, NC Warnings, Watches and Advisories
This list includes places pretty much all over NC, not just Goldsboro. Some of the listings are for today only; others start today and go through the beginning of October. Some are listed as “Likely”; many others are listed as “Observed.”
That is one of those things about all rivers flowing east in the state — floods in the mountains today are in the Piedmont tomorrow, and in the coastal plain the day after.
Not the New
I was thinking of the rivers that cross the fall line — the Roanoke, Tar, Neuse, Cape Fear, Lumber (Pee-Dee), and Wateree (Catawba, Congaree) rivers.
The eastern New River is only 50 miles long, and doesn’t remotely stretch from mountains to sea. The western New River (one of the oldest rivers on Earth) begins near Boone and heads off to Virginia and West Virginia, before becoming the Kanawha River, passing Charleston before joining the Ohio. The Little Kanawha River, which has a different watershed, joins the Ohio River at Parkersburg. My mother’s family has history in Charleston and Parkersburg.
The French Broad River flows west out of the mountains, to eventually join the Tennessee River and on to the Mississippi.
Please, tell me more about where I live.
I was trying to provide some backstory for others on the blog, and also to outline my family connection to the New/Kanawha/Ohio river area.
We’re also currently getting a bunch of confusing news stories, so I was trying to help people get oriented.
Without any sarcasm, please tell us more about where you live. I’m interested.
Honey, no one here needed a lesson on watersheds in reply to PAVACA’s news report.
I found it interesting 🙂
9.28.24: LT w/ Ascent Nutrition learning about HEMP, the Brain, Stress, MAHA & Defeating Fear. PRAY!
And We Know
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Seems like they signed on with Pledge of Allegiance. That’s a long, long time ago. B&W TV. Bunny rabbit ear antenna. Slap the side of the TV, to fine tune reception. 😂
Don’t forget the aluminum foil on the rabbit ears!
“Slap the side of the TV, to fine tune reception”
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That’s the same way we made the Coke vending machine work when it got stuck 👍😁
And back before that, they had actual glass bottles in the Coke and Pepsi machines, with a bottle opener attached to the machine!
Diddy-do Nuffins 😂
DePat…an alternative motto?
Sure, why not.
LOL
i think you can handle that weapon!
UN Pact “for the future” – or WEF World Takeover? | Musings from the Chiefio (wordpress.com)
The PDF:
Another task for Trump to withdraw from. Hopefully the UN itself included. Then evict the bastards and cancel Visa’s.
Release a statement saying, “enactment of any global pact restricting the rights of Americans will be taken as an act of war”, then JDAM the building right after the vote is counted.
We would get so much weepin’ and wailin’ the first two times we did it — say to the WHO and WEF — but there probably wouldn’t be a third time.
Excellent thinking.
And sell their buildings, if possible to recover our $$.
Yep, this is mandatory elimination of the United Cabal Against Humanity.
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/27/excessive-dna-contamination-in-mrna-vaccines-presents-substantial-risk-of-cancer-say-52-scientists-and-academics/
NPC response: If it’s not 53 scientists, it didn’t happen 😂
Helene strikes. Devastates FL, GA, SC, NC, TN…
Briben and Kakala can’t be bothered.
Parts of Virginia got it, too.
It’s begun! 😮😏😠
Might need a refresh on that… dang old one was stuck in the browser thing.
Here it is incase you don’t want to refresh the page… I sure the heck wouldn’t.
He be in big doodoo. And no hurricane to blame.
Another Cackala voter gone wild.
U F B Headline says it all. Had to share the headline. Briben Administration IS Evil.
Biden’s Gestapo DOJ Sues Alabama for Removing Noncitizens on the Voter Rolls
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/bidens-gestapo-doj-sues-alabama-removing-noncitizens-voter/
according to them it’s too close to the election and nothing should be done to correct voter rolls within the 90 day period before the election. idiots!
No trial before election. Big nuffin.
Dodge and FIB are evil.
EVENING PRAYERS
A Powerful Evening Prayer for Peace and Serenity
Dear Lord,
As the day gradually transitions into the comforting embrace of night, I humbly come before you, seeking the precious gifts of peace and serenity. Please, dear God, enfold me in your tranquil presence, and help me find respite from the storms that may be raging within my heart and mind. Grant me the serenity to gracefully accept the things I cannot change and the courage to change what I can. May your divine light shine upon me as I seek rest and tranquility, knowing that your unwavering love and guidance are my constant companions.
Amen.
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A Powerful Evening Prayer for Strength and Guidance
Dear God,
In these twilight hours, I turn to you, my unwavering source of strength and guidance. As I reflect upon the day’s challenges and triumphs, I seek your divine intervention. Grant me the courage to face the uncertainties of tomorrow and the wisdom to make sound decisions along the way. I earnestly request that your radiant light illuminate my path through the darkness, and may your steadfast strength be my refuge in moments of doubt and weakness. Lord, help me navigate life’s complexities with unwavering faith in your unwavering presence.
Amen.
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A Powerful Evening Prayer for Gratitude and Thankfulness
Heavenly Father,
As I pause to contemplate the events of this day, my heart brims with profound gratitude for the countless blessings you have graciously bestowed upon me. I thank you, dear Lord, for the boundless love of my family and friends, for the opportunities that have enriched my journey, and for the valuable lessons I’ve gleaned from life’s experiences. As I lay down to rest, may my heart overflow with thankfulness, recognizing that your grace continually sustains me and that even in the challenges, your love remains unwavering.
Amen.
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https://strengthinprayer.com/powerful-evening-prayers/
Lawyer for Diddy’s Accuser Alleges Tapes Featuring Diddy Now Circulating in Hollywood Black Market — Claims Shocking Involvement of Even Higher Profile Figure!
Transcript from the interview:
Atlanta.
Georgia.
High profile.
Stacy Abrams?
/s
Say it Or Leak it OR STFU.
Diddy dont diddle dere. Ain’t that desperate.
Yes, it’s frustrating. I think if it’s true that the “high profile person” could even be some famous rap star that I’ve never heard of.
So videos are being “shopped.” Surely some agency has access to them, if this lawyer and who-knows-who-else do. Time for people to be questioned, indicted, and prosecuted.
Apparently Steve Harvey (former comedian and host of several TV game shows) is about to be exposed in P-puffy’s tape collection, but it sounds like the person being talked about above is bigger than Steve Harvey.
According to a recent Melanie King y/t video, not only was Steve involved with P-puffery, but sold his own daughter to Piddly-do.
Good grief.
I always liked her pro football name, Stacy ‘the Refrigerator’ Abrams 👍
Future pay-per-view.
I just got sad news that a cousin, in his mid 50s, was found dead in his home, having died suddenly & unexpectedly. Details are sketchy as his wife is rather stranded down in Florida helping her parents deal with the hurricane issues, I believe.
I speculate that Bill (PAVACA we have that in common now) May have been a covid shot casualty. He worked in sales in the medical field & I guess that it was pretty likely that he was “forced” to take the covid shot(s) in order to continue access to his customers locations.
This couple had no children so we’re not sure who found him. He was collapsed next to his bed & was found dead yesterday. His only sibling is in California & his mom is in a nursing facility here in Michigan. His widowed mom, who’s always had a very hard time with death (she wouldn’t even enter the Cottage for more than a decade after my grandpa died because it was so upsetting to her), will be devastated & likely undone.
Would appreciate prayers for this precious family.
So sorry to read this Prayers.
TY KBK God Bless You
Prayers for your cousins family and also your whole family.
TY Singing. Bill’s dad died a few years back. He was my dad’s first cousin & they spent Every Summer of their childhood & youth in Northern Michigan at family cottages on or near Otsego Lake, an idyllic way to grow up for Motor City kids. Bill’s parents actually met at my parents’ wedding & Bill’s wife was the daughter of my grandma’s dear friend & fellow teacher whom we called Aunt Julia even though she was no blood relation. When Bill’s parents married my grandpa walked the bride down the aisle, standing in for her deceased father, & handing her to his nephew. Much love & history there…
Valerie Curren
I’m so sorry to hear this news. Yes, if your cousin worked in medical sales, the COVID-19 “vaccines” were very likely “mandated” in order for him to keep his job, to have access to medical facilities, nursing homes, etc., to keep his customer contacts and to get new ones. (Oh Lord, and his name is Bill…)
Sending Deep Comfort and prayers to all, including to you.
TY CV I knew that you would understand. TY for your encouragements & prayers. God Bless
How sad, and how difficult to have to deal with a hurricane during such a time. 🙏 for all affected by his passing–his wife, his sibling, his mother, and all his family.
TY TT I appreciate your thoughts & prayers. Blessings
Sorry to hear this. Prayers for you all, and especially for his mother.
Thank you so much Wolf. God Bless
Condolences and thoughts to all in this trying time.
TY Steve, Blessings
SD
After Staging Event for Kamala Harris, Primanti Brothers a PA Based Restuarant Chain, Blocks JD Vance from Entering
The Primanti Brothers restaurant chain is apparently owned and operated by hardcore left-wing activists. [Details on Restaurant Here]
About a month ago, it was reported in the Daily Mail the restaurant chain kicked out all of the regular dining patrons so they could stage actors as a campaign event for Kamals Harris in the Pittsburgh area.
The Harris campaign bussed in the press pool and a group of campaign supporters, essentially actors, to stage a photo shoot meet and greet and manufacture the appearance of support for Kamals Harris.
The August event was presented as “ordinary diners,” but was in fact a group of Harris campaign workers. Essentially this was typical astroturf sold as organic or authentic campaigning; it wasn’t. Everything around Kamala Harris is fake, manufactured and astroturf performance.
Staff at the restaurant told patrons they would have to leave at 4:00pm due to a ‘private event’ which turned out to be a campaign stop for Kamala Harris.
♦ In a remarkable contrast, today the same restaurant chain blocked republican VP nominee JD Vance from entering the building and campaigning.
A video taken by a diner within Primanti Brothers was posted on Twitter and quickly went viral. Apparently, most of the people inside the establishment immediately cancelled their orders as soon as they realized what was happening,
The barred JD Vance was undeterred and remained outside the building to thank people as they left. The video shows JD Vance telling those who were outraged that he paid for cancelled meals, left a tip and reminded the operator of the restaurant of the “no tax on tips” pledge from the campaign.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
Primanti Brothers Restaurants is owned by a private investment group called Garnett Station Partners. The Managing Partner is Jordan Garay.
Another place to avoid. Why spend money for people who do not like us?
The Left is always tripping over themselves, telling everyone how ‘tolerant’ they are… but they’re just so full of insane hatred, it constantly blows up in their faces like a loaded cigar 😂 🤣 😂
Vance is a class act.
Have we heard from Gail?
I have been thinking of Gail also I pray she her husband and the critters are safe 🤔
Given that she warned her neighbors not to build in the flood plain, she may have neighbors camping with goats in her garage.
Amen!
kalbo
Not to my knowledge. Hoping that all are safe.
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, it looks like Cackala has a Hussein Obama type problem with her ‘official’ background story as told in her book, the same as Hussein did.
Candace Owns discovered it, and Melanie King is reporting, with segments from Candace’s video.
There is a photo of Cackala with her grandmother, to establish her ‘blackness’. It looks like Cackala is around 20 years old in the photo.
Unfortunately, the woman Cackala claims is her grandmother, standing next to her in the photo, died in 1960, four years before Cackala was born…
Don’t you just hate it, when a rip in the space-time continuum screws up a perfectly good narrative about your background?
Is there ANYONE in democrat politics who is actually who they CLAIM to be?!? 😂
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Eight minutes in. OMG…
Hilarious if this goes viral on X.
If Kakala is ever asked about this, endless
word saladbabbling…Would be a shame if the Trump organization learned of this.
Bongino, Bannon, ….Poso…
Couple days from now, JD will debate Chinee Tim.
Entertainment value could be absolutely priceless.
👍😂
It gets even better. Cackala’s father, Donald Harris, died when he was two years old. So who is the guy pretending to be Cackala’s father today, in 2024?
This YT really needs to go viral.
If nothing else, please repost early in Sunday’s daily.
I doubt this is true. Just a quick poke around tells me that there are multiple people with similar names, one of whom died in 1995. I can’t do much more right now, but I think this is Candace Owen clickbait bullshit.
If you find out more, please bring it here. Someone is way off base, either Kamala or Candace. If there’s a logical explanation for this, Candace is going to lose a lot of credibility.
Candace has already lost a lot of credibility, with MAGA world.
If this one is a blooper, Candace is toast.
Candace has already lost her credibility with me.
I think Candace already mentioned the one who died in 1985.
Maybe the Trump people DID know about this, and that’s why they pushed the “is she really black” thing. It was a Q type operation – trying to get people to dig.
Had a similar thought.
After all the hussin Kenya / birth certificate stuff, Trump wouldn’t want to overtly push this stuff.
While I’m uncertain about this, there could be some very weird reason why the powers that be are pushing strange, un-American people of very dubious backgrounds to be our leaders.
The similarity to Hussein is just too strange.
Stooges are easy to own, manipulate.
Manipulation through “imposter syndrome”, when they really ARE imposters?
Plus they HATE America & American values 😡
Someone who actually loves their country and their People won’t act against their best interests.
Someone who has negligible ties to the country, or divided loyalties, will be far more easily manipulated.
No doubt that’s the primary (if not whole) reason for the Constitutional birth requirements (natural born citizen) to be president in the first place 👍
The disaster that was Poland was fresh in their minds. It was in trouble as they wrote the constitution, and was gone before Jefferson took office. Poland had an elected monarchy, and they often brought in someone from outside of Poland for the job..it just had to be some nobleman.
Not only did other European powers put a lot of effort into getting someone from their royal family onto that throne whenever it became vacant, but the likely result was a ruler who treated Poland (a fairly substantial country) as a mere appanage to some tiny country barely more than a city and surrounding countryside (Germany was a patchwork of this sort of thing for centuries).
This sort of thing didn’t just happen to Poland though it was frequent enough with Poland to be lethal.
Russia found itself with a monarch who, although the grandson of Peter the Great, was also the ruler of Schleswig-Holstein, and he regarded Russia as subservient to that. Russia was in a war against Prussia when he came to the throne; Russia was actually winning the war. But this asshat took the throne and promptly surrendered, he was a huge admirer of Frederick (who wasn’t “Frederic the Great” yet. Six months later his wife overthrew him, and she went on to become Catherine the Great, arguably the best female monarch in history, though it can be hard to compare autocrats; our standards of comparison simply don’t match up to what they are. Ironically, she had no Russian blood but loved Russia, the exact opposite of her deposed husband.
Great & fascinating stuff–Thx!
“Poland had an elected monarchy, and they often brought in someone from outside of Poland for the job..it just had to be some nobleman.”
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It’s
likeactually stupid on steroids.It’s getting better!
Cackala Harris’ father, Donald Harris, son of Cackala’s grandmother, died when he was two years old. They have the records.
So if the actual person named Donald Harris, who Cakcala claims is her father, died when he was 2 years old, then WTH is the guy claiming to be Cackala’s father, Donald Harris, today, in 2024?
Have we stumbled upon a whole family of time travelers?
😂
Will watch shortly.
Another for repost early on Sunday.
This stuff needs to go viral.
Early October surprise?
Wonder who, if anyone prompted Candace…?
“Wonder who, if anyone prompted Candace…?”
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I don’t know, but it’s hilarious to listen to these videos, and see Melanie look up at the camera with each new revelation 😂
It’s like one of those old-timey mysteries when the character looks at the camera and you hear the orchestra go “ba-ba-bommm….”
Found it!
Melanie needs to incorporate this sound effect in her videos 👍 😂
This is great stuff. ~20 minutes in.
These revelations need to turn D-Rat world upside down.
Be a shame if a Sunday talk show picked this up. Yea. Not likely.
Edit.
This entire saga requires a “chalk talk” of sorts.
Looking forward to follow on videos.
At the end of the this video (part 3? not sure if I have the order correct), Candace is strongly suggesting that Cackala’s grandmother is WHITE, and the only black relative she has presented is the person who is supposedly her grandmother, but who was actually a domestic servant on one of the family plantations.
They found ‘Iris’ Cambridge, she’s a white woman, and it appears that she is Cackala’s real grandmother.
So Candace is saying this could be the most ‘diabolical’ thing that she has seen, that Cackala has NO black in her family history, that she has HIDDEN her white ancestry, and she has used a BLACK woman who was a ‘domestic servant’ on one of the family plantations as a stand-in for her grandmother.
Oh, and Cackala’s birth certificate has been ‘amended’ not once, but TWICE…
Ba-ba-BOMMMM! 🤣
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Gosh. I may just cry (from Insty).
ALL FAMILY BUSINESS IS BEING SETTLED:
Hamas, Hezbollah, and now Houthis?
Wow. Every pterodactyl is coming home to roost!