2024·11·23 Joe Biden Didn’t Win (And Neither Did Kamala Harris) Daily Thread

58 days, 11 hours, 59 minutes until our Once and Future President, the Rightful President of the United States, is restored to his proper office.

Not that I’m counting, mind you.

[Assumes 0001 publication time. Wordpiss will be wordpiss and it’s unlikely to happen at that time.]

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson: A Reminder.

And MTG is there to help make it stick.

January 6 tapes. A good start…but then nothing.

Were you just hoping we’d be distracted by the first set and not notice?

Are you THAT kind of “Republican”?

Are you Kevin McCarthy lite?

What are you waiting for?

I have a personal interest in this issue.

And if you aren’t…what the hell is wrong with you?

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot (i.e., paper) Prices

Last week:

Gold $2,563.30
Silver $30.30
Platinum $947.00
Palladium $974.00
Rhodium $4,950.00
FRNSI* 123.000-
Gold:Silver 84.597+

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, Kitco “ask” prices. Markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,716.90
Silver $31.41
Platinum $973.00
Palladium $1,034.00
Rhodium $4,950.00
FRNSI* 130.430+
Gold:Silver 86.498-

The attention is on gold. It has recovered over $150 of the losses it took right after the election, just since last Friday. Alas, silver has not kept up, and the gold:silver ratio has gone up almost two points. Platinum still struggles to climb out of the gutter, while palladium seems more dynamic. Rhodium did move around a bit, but ended up where it was last Friday.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Reminder: Most Flat Earther Influencers are Liars

Most Flat Earther influencers like Flat Earth Dave and Eric Dubay have said for years that they want to go to Antarctica during southern summer and watch the Sun set…which would prove the globe model isn’t right. The globe model not only predicts the Sun will not set in Antarctica at and around the solstice, it predicts the Sun’s path through the sky will circle the observer over the course of a 24 hour day, going from north to west to south to east of the observer. (At the south pole itself, some of those directions are meaningless since every direction is north; but just move a millimeter from the pole and they mean something.)

They’ve been given the chance to go to Antarctica for free and now all of the sudden refuse to do it; they are even ostracizing the few among their number who have agreed to take the trip, accusing them of having sold out and being shills in advance of them coming back and reporting what they have seen,

That should be enough to tell any reasonable observer that they already know what the travelers to Antarctica will see…and it won’t be good for Flat Earth. Which is why I am not calling them ignorant or deluded; I am calling them liars. They know the Earth is not flat, yet they make a shitload of money claiming it is.

Lying. Sacks. Of. Shit.

However, I don’t call all of them liars. I give some praise to those few who are going; they apparently do actually believe it (which is not good on them)–negating the “liar” aspect–but more importantly they have the intellectual courage to test their beliefs, even in the face of ostracism from the knowing con-men on their side.

Beyond Neptune

Of course everyone knows what’s after Neptune.

Pluto.

But that’s not all of the story by any means.

The Discovery of Pluto

I told the story last time of the discovery of Neptune. But as astronomers observed and tracked Neptune in the last half of the 19th century, it appeared that Neptune didn’t account for all of Uranus’s unexpected motions.

The first thought, of course, is that there’s yet another planet out there. Percival Lowell decided to try to do something about it beyond thinking.

Percival Lowell had founded the Lowell observatory near Flagstaff, AZ in 1894, largely to observe Mars, but in 1906 he started searching for Planet Nine. He kept on looking with the help of William H. Pickering, using calculations by Elizabeth Williams. Nothing was found and Lowell passed away in 1916. (As it turns out his photographic plates did have “hits” on Pluto for March 19 and April 7th, 1915, but they were faint and didn’t get noticed. Planet Nine was expected to be big. There are fourteen other known instances of Pluto showing up, unrecognized, on observatories’ photographic plates from 1909 on; these are called “precovery” photographs.)

Percival Lowell’s widow, Constance, got into a ten year legal battle with the observatory, so the search stopped. But once the legal cloud had cleared, the director, Vesto Melvin Slipher (the first to see redshifts in galaxies) gave 23 year old Clyde Tombaugh the job of resuming the search. Tombaugh’s method consisted of taking photographs of the same area of the night sky a few days apart and putting the photographs (which were on glass plates) in a blink comparator, which would project one plate, then the other, and repeat. Any object that had moved in the meantime would seem to jump back and forth.

On February 18, 1930, Tombaugh spotted something on plates from the 23rd and 29th of January.

As you can see, the photographs were often not exposed to the same brightness, so anyone using a blink comparator would have to deal with the image getting brighter and dimmer, brighter and dimmer…while looking for the one object that was completely not there (not just dimmer) in one photograph or the other. (And it seems as though many things in the left photograph are not visible in the right hand photobraph. So perhaps Tombaugh simply looked for something that showed in the faint photo on the right, but not the brighter one on the left.)

A lower quality photo from the 21st helped confirm that Tombaugh wasn’t just seeing spots in front of his eyes. The observatory took more photos over the next few weeks to really nail the case down. Finally, on March 13, they telegraphed Harvard Observatory with the news.

The new planet orbits the Sun in 247.94 years, in an inclined and eccentric orbit. That period puts it into a 2:3 resonance with Neptune; it orbits twice in the amount of time it takes Neptune to orbit three times.

What to name it? They got thousands of suggestions, including Minerva, Pluto, and Cronus. Minerva had been used for an asteroid already, Cronus was being pushed by someone who was both unpopular and egocentric…so Pluto it was. (Cronus is also the Greek name for the titan who fathered Zeus and other Olympian gods…in other words it’s the Greek counterpart of the Roman Saturn.) Pluto/Hades was the god of the underworld. As a bonus, the first two letters are Percival Lowell’s initials. The name was approved by both the American Astronomical Society and the Royal Astonomical Society and the name became fixed on May 1. No jacking around with the name as had happened with Uranus for decades.

But right off the bat something didn’t add up.

One estimate from 1915 was that Planet Nine would have to be seven times as massive as the Earth. But a very early estimate after Pluto had been found, in 1931, had its mass as low as Earth’s (so, too low by a factor of 7). As more and more estimates were made over the years, Pluto’s estimated mass kept dropping; in 1948 Kuiper estimated it at 0.1 Earth masses, in 1976 it was lowered again to 0.01 Earth masses. But these were guesses based on Pluto’s size, which was estimated from how bright it was. It was never more than a dot of light on a photographic plate or film.

In 1978, we discovered Pluto had a moon, Charon…and with a moon we could determine the mass quite solidly, so the estimate dropped to 0.0015 Earth masses. And the latest number from 2006 is 0.00218 Earth masses. (I actually remember this happening. And now Pluto has five known moons.)

Charon, by the way, is the last of the medium-sized moons. Saturn has four, Uranus has four…and Pluto has one.

And we finally nailed down Pluto’s size, 2377 km in diameter. Our own moon is 3475 km across, and there are other moons larger than it. Mercury is also far larger than Pluto.

This is just way too tiny to be the planet we were looking for.

Furthermore, Voyager 2 in 1989 caused the estimates for Neptune’s mass to be dropped 0.5% and the “remaining discrepancy” in Uranus’s orbit now disappeared; Neptune accounted for it all.

So Pluto’s discovery was ultimately a stroke of luck. We were groping around in a dark room with a blindfold on, looking for a cat that wasn’t there…but we had found the mouse that was.

But now, just about everything about Pluto (and not just its size) made many wonder if it really should be considered a planet. Pluto is in a very un-planetery orbit. The other eight planets had reasonably circular orbits (Mercury being a bit of an outlier) all in nearly the same plane: the ecliptic (which is defined by the plane of Earth’s orbit). Pluto’s orbit is inclined 17 degrees to the ecliptic; no other planet came anywhere close to that. Furthermore, its orbit was very eccentric, not circular (e=.2488). In fact, with a semi-major axis of 39.482, that meant Pluto’s closest approach to the Sun was 29.658 AU.

That’s closer than Neptune. Pluto was actually at that point on September 5, 1989. For the entire twenty year period from 1979-1999 Pluto wasn’t the outermost planet, Neptune was.

[DIGRESSION: There is, by the way, little to no danger of a collision between Neptune and Pluto. If you look at the two orbits in 3D it becomes apparent that Pluto crosses the plane of Neptune’s orbit pretty far away from the actual orbit of Neptune. Here’s an animation of one Plutonian year from an oblique angle. The vertical white lines show how far below or above the plane Pluto is at any given time.

You can watch the animation and note that Neptune is at about 4 o’clock in the diagram at the start of the animation, and that’s where Pluto is furthest from the Sun. At the end of the animation, Neptune is at 10 o’clock; in other words it has orbited 1 1/2 times while Pluto orbited once (that’s a 3:2 resonance). At no point will the two planets come near each other, and since this pattern repeats, they won’t ever unless something causes an orbit to change.]

END OF DIGRESSION and back to the main thread: So Pluto didn’t look like any other planet. Nor did it act like any other planet. But if Pluto were all there was out there, most people would go ahead and consider it a planet.

But as it happens. there’s quite a lot “out there.”

The Centaurs

In 1977, Charles Kowal discovered Chiron, an asteroid, roughly 200 km across…but one with a difference. It was nowhere near the asteroid belt; it was well outside of it. That was a first, and barely a hint of things to come. Chiron is named after a centaur; and we would discover more such bodies. There’s a whole class of them now and that class is called the “centaurs.” It turned out there were “precovery” images of Chiron going clear back to 1895. And it turns out to have a ring!

There is a registry of so-called minor planets. When there is an initial observation, they’re given a “provisional designation.” (The scheme is a bit complicated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_designation_in_astronomy#Minor_planets but the first part is obviously the year of the first observation). Sometimes it gets an unofficial nickname, if it’s particularly interesting. Once we have enough data to establish an orbit, the object is given a number in the order they are discovered–and sometimes it gets a name too. (There are hundreds of thousands of objects that never got past the provisional designation stage.) Minor planets are simply numbered in order: Ceres is formally “1 Ceres”, then there is 2 Pallas, 3 Vesta, 4 Juno, and so on. It used to be just asteroids, but as we will see a lot more different kinds of things are on the list. These objects have the following in common: they orbit the sun directly, but aren’t planets, and aren’t comets.

[WARNING: Have a barf bucket handy for this one: Believe it or not there’s an object nicknamed (but not permanently named) “Biden,” provisional number 2012 VP113. And it got that name because Biden was the VP that year. However it’s been 12 years and they weren’t able to verify it so it might not be a real minor planet, in much the same way that Biden today isn’t a real president.]

When Chiron was first discovered, it got the provisional designation “1977 UB.” Once its orbit was established, it was regarded as the 2060th “minor planet” to be discovered, and now it’s formally known as 2060 Chiron. There are now over 44,000 known centaurs. And it’s speculated that Saturn’s way-out-there ninth moon, Phoebe, is a captured centaur. In general centaurs are far too likely to encounter one of the outer planets and so their orbits are not considered stable in the long term.

Buried in Planets?

Fifteen years later, things started to get crazy. We started finding more and more stuff way out there. The first was 15760 Albion (provisional designation 1992 QB1).

Here is 15760 Albion’s orbit (it’s a very slo-mo gif, so you’re not seeing things, it does move). It is in a roughly 291 year orbit. Shown in red are the orbits of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

It actually looks like a planet’s orbit; it’s even spaced about right. Unfortunately, it was only a bit over 100km across, not even remotely big enough to have forced itself into a round shape. Not a planet.

A concerted effort was made to scan the entire ecliptic for very slow moving dots of light, to see if there were other things out there.

And there sure were. Lots of small stuff. But then we started finding big ones too, ones big enough to be rounded, and many, if not most, of these objects have moons!

In 2002, we found 50000 Quaoar (named after a deity worshiped by an Indian tribe that lived in what is now the LA area), orbiting between 41.9 and 45.5 AUs, in 289 years. Its diameter is 1,090 km. OK, that’s sizeable enough to get one’s attention! And it has a moon.

Then we found 90377 Sedna, discovered in 2003, which has a gigantic 506 AU (that is not a typo, yes five hundred and six astronomical units) orbit (that is 76 billion kilometers). That’s the semi-major axis (half way across the long way). This one is a highly eccentric orbit, so it’s not that far away from us at the moment; if it was we’d never be able to see it. Right now Sedna is 83.5 AU away (still twice as far as Pluto), near its nearest approach to the Sun at 76 AU. Its furthest distance is 937 AU! But be prepared to wait a while for it to get there. Its year is 11,400 of ours, and you’ll have to wait about half that long for it to get halfway around its orbit. So far as we know, Sedna does not have a moon. We can see no detail at that ridiculous distance, but it is colored distinctly red (my guess: tholins). And Sedna is very roughly 900 km across, which is again sizeable, not dismissable as a piece of rubble. Sedna does not have a moon that we can see, which as you will see is unusual.

In 2004 we found 90482 Orcus, 900 km or so in diameter, 30.3 to 48.1 AUs out orbiting in 245.1 years (almost exactly the same as Pluto). Also, it has a moon.

OK, this is starting to get ridiculous. But we’re just getting started!

Also in 2004, there is 136108 Haumea, announced a year later and its status not fully settled even then because…well because it’s 2000km across! That’s getting close to Pluto’s size. (As a side note, Haumea is distinctly rugby-ball shaped. We think. Again we don’t see much more than blobs in our images.) And (wait for it), it has two moons.

But the absolute, oh-shit-we-have-a-problem-here discovery was announced the very next year, 2005, based on observations from late 2003 and later. 2003 UB313 was more massive than Pluto, though it appears to have a smaller diameter. The new object was “nicknamed” Xena (as in the Warrior Princess), and it took a while to settle on a permanent name. It turns out to have a moon, nicknamed Gabrielle after Xena’s sidekick. “Xena” orbits between 38.3 and 97.5 AUs, in 559 years. This object was actually announced by some YSM outlets as the tenth planet! Well, why not? If Pluto is a planet, this object certainly should be!

Because some people argued that indeed it was a planet, it took a while to get a permanent name and number. Why give it a number and have it turn out to not belong on the minor planet list? So “Xena” had to wait, for we were fully embroiled in discord.

And just for icing on the cake, on the same day that “Xena” was announced, the discovery of what would eventually be called 136472 Makemake was announced…and that was just two days after Haumea was announced. 136472 Makemake orbits between 38.1 and 52.8 AUs in 306 years.

Well. What a mess. Are they planets? We’d better figure this out because we’re getting buried here.

Rounding Up the Trans Neptunian Objects

I’m going to jump ahead here, a tiny bit. I’ll get back to the planet question soon.

I’m going to discuss the classification system we use today for these objects so (non-spoiler spoiler alert) Pluto will here be treated as one of these objects, not as a planet.

These objects all live beyond Neptune. But astronomers like to group things (you saw that with the moons of the gas and ice giants) and these objects, plus the zillions of much smaller ones in similar places that I haven’t mentioned, ultimately got “bucketed” into categories.

The Big Bucket is “trans-Neptunian object” Other than the centaurs, all of the objects I’ve discussed this time are trans-Neptunian objects (generally abbreviated “TNOs”), because they’re minor bodies outside of the orbit of Neptune.

But then we have sub-categories. The “Kuiper Belt” is those objects between 30 and 55 AUs from the Sun (as a reminder, Neptune is at roughly 30 AU). There are thousands of known Kuiper Belt objects, and the best estimate is that there are over a hundred thousand objects here over 100km in diameter. In fact there is far more “stuff” out there than in the asteroid belt. However, asteroid belt objects are typically rocks or metals, while the Kuiper Belt is mostly volatiles–iceballs, with some rocks in them.

The Kuiper Belt in turn has three classes of objects. The “classical” Kuiper Belt objects (cubewanos) are in reasonably circular, “regular” orbits, like Albion. There are a bunch in 2:3 resonance with Neptune (like Pluto), called plutinos, and others in a 1:2 resonance with Neptune, called twotinos. Orcus, Pluto, Haumea, Quaoar and Makemake are all Kuiper Belt objects. Orcus and Pluto are plutinos, the others are cubewanos.

This leaves Sedna and “Xena” unaccounted for. The other major category besides Kuiper Belt Objects is the “Scattered Disk Objects”, irregular-orbiting objects well beyond the Kuiper belt. “Xena” and Sedna fit here.

Here’s a handy-dandy chart. Or a confusing one, depending on your point of view, showing these categories, as well as the centaurs. In red across the top you will note designations like 2|3 and 1|2 for resonances with Neptune. And, oh by the way, Sedna is such an outlier it’s off the right hand edge of the diagram.

Gerard Peter Kuiper

Gerard Peter Kuiper, 1905-1973 (photo from 1964), was a Dutch-American astronomer. Americans trying to pronounce his name butcher it as “KAI-per,” rhyming with “piper.” The original Dutch pronunciation is indescribable to us except with the international phonetic alphabet: ˈɣɛrɪt ˈpitər ˈkœypər. He was the doctoral adviser for Carl Sagan, discovered Miranda (smallest moon of Uranus) and Nereid (third largest moon of Neptune), carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of Mars, and Titan’s atmosphere. He speculated that a large disk of of ices had condensed into smaller bodies, but would long since have been disrupted by Pluto (which was thought at the time to be massive). Well, he was half right; because Pluto is puny the objects are still there and the belt containing them is now named the Kuiper belt in his honor.

Discord

OK, back to “Are these planets?” The year is 2006. New Horizons launched on its mission to Pluto on 19 January of that year, and now it was time to evaluate the matter of whether it was on its way to a planet or not.

There was no formal definition of a planet. We knew them when we saw them. Except now we didn’t. Or rather everyone knew, but not the same as other people.

Alan Stern was (and still is) a principal investigator of the New Horizons probe (i.e., he is in charge of one of the instruments on that probe). Stern’s resume in the space program is as long as my arm. Time magazine even named him one of the 100 most influential people in 2007.

Stern was, and still is, an adamant defender of Pluto as a planet…and yes, he knows that means all these other objects, plus more to be discovered in the future, would be planets too.

His proposal: Divide planets into three subcategories. First, the classical planets, Mercury through Neptune, eight total. Then dwarf planets; that would include all of these big TNOs including Pluto, and Ceres, the largest object in the asteroid belt. The third category, though, is the “satellite planet.” These are the round moons orbiting other objects: our Moon, the four Galilean satellites of Jupiter, the seven round moons of Saturn, the five round moons of Uranus, Triton orbiting Neptune, and Charon orbiting Pluto.

These would all be planets, because they are massive enough for their gravity to have forced them into round shapes. (And this is one reason I’ve made a big deal about round versus not round.)

Including the moons seems a bit odd. But Stern’s position is very straightforward. He cares about the intrinsic properties of the object (it’s size and shape) first and its extrinsic circumstances, i.e. what orbit it’s in, second. If the object is round, it’s a planet, whether it dominates its orbit, or even if it orbits something else. Once it’s settled as a planet, then you decide whether it’s also a satellite, or big enough to “own” its orbit, and put it in the appropriate sub-buckets.

The IAU Makes Sausage

When the International Astronomical Union met in August of 2006 this matter was on the agenda and…well, we know the story. Alan Stern lost.

There is an aphorism that, like sausages, those that love law should not watch it being made. And that’s apparently true here as well.

The first proposal was: “A planet is a celestial body that (a) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (b) is in orbit around a star, and is neither a star nor a satellite of a planet.”

In addition to the then-nine objects recognized as planets, this would have added Ceres, “Xena,” and Charon, the moon of Pluto. So we would immediately have twelve planets. In addition to this there were twelve candidate objects (including three asteroid-belt objects) that would likely fit once we knew more about them (including many of the ones I’ve talked about). Indeed there were claims (by Mike Brown who discovered Sedna and “Xena”) that we could have fifty three additional planets added almost immediately to this list of 12, and likely many more, perhaps 200, once we looked for more objects.

You may wonder why Charon would make the list, even though it’s fairly small as such things go. Why Charon and not Ganymede? That is because Charon and Pluto are close enough in size that the center of gravity of the Pluto-Charon system is actually outside of Pluto, unlike with every other moon in the solar system. That caused many to regard Pluto/Charon as a double planet…which of course would make Charon a planet.

Anything not spherical would be “bucketed” into Small Solar System Bodies (SSSBs). In addition, the “pluton” class (named for Pluto) would be used for things with highly eccentric or inclined objects. So this proposal drew one fairly clean line, if it’s round (and it’s not a star) it’s a planet, otherwise it’s an SSSB.

Although the relevant committee endorsed this, most of the IAU didn’t like this proposal; it was too ambiguous distinguishing between classical and dwarf planets. It failed a straw poll, 18-50 of a subgroup of the IAU.

So the second try, proposed by Gonzalo Tancredi and Julio Angel Fernandez:

(1) A planet is a celestial body that (a) is by far the largest object in its local population[1], (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape [2], and (c) does not produce energy by any nuclear fusion mechanism [3].

(2) According to point (1), the eight classical planets discovered before 1900, which move in nearly circular orbits close to the ecliptic plane, are the only planets of the Solar System. All the other objects in orbit around the Sun are smaller than Mercury. We recognize that there are objects that fulfill the criteria (b) and (c) but not criterion (a). Those objects are defined as “dwarf” planets. Ceres, as well as Pluto and several other large Trans-Neptunian objects, belongs to this category. In contrast to the planets, these objects typically have highly inclined orbits and/or large eccentricities.

(3) All the other natural objects orbiting the Sun that do not fulfill any of the previous criteria shall be referred to collectively as “Small Solar System Bodies“.[4]

Definitions and clarifications

  1. The local population is the collection of objects that cross or closely approach the orbit of the body in consideration.
  2. This generally applies to objects with sizes above several hundred kilometers, depending on the material strength.
  3. This criterion allows the distinction between gas giant planets and brown dwarfs or stars.
  4. This class currently includes most of the Solar System asteroids, Near-Earth objects (NEOs), Mars-, Jupiter- and Neptune-Trojan asteroids, most Centaurs, most Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs), and comets.[32]

This would have demoted Pluto to a “dwarf planet” which, despite the name including the word “planet,” was not a subcategory of planet; a difference between this and Stern’s proposal.

This went to open session, and the main point of contention was between the “static” and “dynamic” physics positions. The static position was similar to Stern’s; the emphasis would be on the intrinsic shape of the planet. “Dynamics” is a reference to the orbital properties.

There was one more draft, then the Plenary Session of the IAU met, and debated some more. And this is the result:

The IAU…resolves that planets and other bodies, except satellites, in the Solar System be defined into three distinct categories in the following way:

(1) A planet [1] is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (c) has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit.

(2) A “dwarf planet” is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape [2], (c) has not cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit, and (d) is not a satellite.

(3) All other objects [3], except satellites, orbiting the Sun shall be referred to collectively as “Small Solar System Bodies“.

Footnotes:

[1] The eight planets are: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
[2] An IAU process will be established to assign borderline objects into either dwarf planet and other categories.

[3] These currently include most of the Solar System asteroids, most Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs), comets, and other small bodies.

And just to be clear, a “dwarf planet” was not, despite the name, a category of planet; they passed an additional resolution to make it clear.

[I have seen clips of the actual vote, hands raised in the auditorium. I can’t find one now, or I’d include it.]

So the planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

The dwarf planets (a subgroup of the Small Solar System Bodies), most likely includes: Ceres, Pluto, Quaoar, Sedna, Orcus, Haumea, “Xena”, Makemake…and one other, Gonggong. This is a fuzzy line and there are others already known that arguably belong on this list.

The Aftermath

And so that was it for Planet Pluto. To put the nail in it, within days Pluto was given a minor planet number just like any asteroid or Kuiper Belt object: 134340 Pluto. It’s now marked as a “Small Solar System Body.”

The reaction was intense. The public of course hated this and still does.

But it’s not just the public. Many planetary scientists (not just Alan Stern) also disagree.

This issue will be revisited some day. Personally I like Stern’s suggestion better than what we got. Or perhaps the best suggestion is to just drop the word “planet” entirely since it seems to have emotional ties. Should every round object that’s not a star be a “world”?

This is NOT the first time we’ve reassessed the concept of a planet, by the way. The other times that I know of are:

  1. Any permanent wandering object in the sky was a planet; that included the Sun and the Moon, originally. Once it turned out the Moon orbited the Earth, and everything else orbited the Sun, that made the Sun “special” and the Moon a mere satellite of a planet, Earth.
  2. With the discovery of moons around other planets (the Galilean moons of Jupiter in 1610, but also the satellites of Saturn and Uranus), we started seeing the term “Planetary Satellites” (which Stern re-used) used for them; that term continued to be in use well into the 1700s if not later. It’s now often used for the big seven moons (the Moon, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Titan and Triton); the ones I’ve been calling “large moons.”
  3. The asteroids were considered planets at first: Ceres, then we had Vesta, Juno and Pallas. They were all small and in the same general location, though so they quickly got reclassified as “minor planets” or even “asteroids.”

If you relish irony, after that flurry of discoveries in the mid 00s, only one more solid dwarf planet candidate has been discovered, and that in 2007: 225088 Gonggong, which varies from 33.8 to 101.2 AUs from the Sun, orbiting in 554 years, with a diameter of about 1230 km (give or take 50 km). It has one known moon.

…And Back to “Xena”

As for “Xena”, that same meeting settled its status, and the permanent name 136199 Eris was chosen. Eris’s moon was named Dysnomia. Eris is round. Dysnomia might be.

Eris was a Greek goddess, the personification of strife and discord. Dysnomia means “lawlessness” which (interestingly) might be a reference to Lucy Lawless, who played Xena.

What perfect names for the objects that triggered such a furor!

(Next time, we’ll look at the TNOs themselves, most especially Pluto [it’s by far the best known] in more detail.)

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TheseTruths

Change can be hard to accept, and I miss having Pluto as a planet. But if we say we follow science, we have to recognize the facts about Pluto, as unpleasant as that might be for some. The facts are pretty involved, so it’s not something one can just read a headline about and gain immediate understanding.

scott467

If Pluto was good enough to be a planet for the ancient Sumerians (they called it ‘Gaga’), then it’s good enough for me.

I still loves ya, Pluto!

You’re always a planet to me 😁

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“The Sumerians had a view and a handle on the solar system that even today, and within the scholarly circles, is hard to believe, and we don’t yet understand how they correctly identified each planet in the Solar System, even planet size.

In fact, they named each planet: Mummu (Mercury); Lahamu (Venus); Enuma (Earth); Lahmu (Mars); Tiamat (ancient planet destroyed and turned into our asteroid belt); Kinshar (Jupiter); Anshar (Saturn); Anu (Uranus); Ea (Neptune); and Gaga (Pluto).

According to our current view of science and technology, we are the most advanced civilization ever to rule the Earth, so how do you think the Sumerians were able to see the asteroid belt and the planets past Saturn without telescopes? Remember, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto were discovered after the 1700s, and with high-powered telescopes, something we don’t believe existed 5,500 to 6,000 years ago.

Maybe they had a type of telescope back then, but if they did, we surely don’t have any ancient remains to give us a true or false answer.

What has some scholars even more baffled by the Sumerian astronomical stories and myths they etched on the stone tablets was their idea about the asteroid belt, something you cannot see from Earth with the naked eye.

So, how could they know it existed?

We simply don’t know.

The Sumerians believed the asteroid belt came into existence by way of Tiamat, a planet that exploded via an impact by another rather large cosmic body. They placed Tiamat’s orbit between Mars and Jupiter, exactly where the asteroid belt floats today.

Again, it’s a mystery very few have an answer to: How did Sumerian astronomers know such an event took place and place that event in the correct origin in our Solar System?

Furthermore, ancient Sumer created star charts, and, in fact, gave the world the constellations we know today such as Scorpius, Leo, Sagittarius, Taurus, Auriga, Gemini, and Capricorn, and thus, correctly identifying the stars in those constellations as well. Plus, adding to those constellations, ancient Sumerian astronomers inscribed measurements of degrees on their star charts, all ridiculously accurate.”

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Of course the really amazing thing that gets practically no discussion in either Sumerian or astronomical discussion, is how the ancient Sumerian tablets clearly show that Sumerians predicted the hit 1986 video by the Bangles, Walk Like an Egyptian 👍

Nobody wants to talk about that — they don’t even try to explain it! 😁

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scott467

For which one?

That the Sumerians knew about Pluto, or that the Sumerians foretold the Bangles hit song Walk Like an Egyptian?

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para59r

This is breathing life back into the roaring 20’s when Egyptian themed movie theaters dotted the country and numbered in the hundreds. Everything Egyptian was a thing back then.

Meantime the Egyptians breathed life into astronomy in a way you don’t see today.
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The text under reads “Segment of the astronomical ceiling of Senenmut’s Tomb (circa 1479–1458 BC), depicting constellations, protective deities, and twenty-four segmented wheels for the hours of the day and the months of the year” And no I can not imagine what it all means but I can clearly see Orion depicted on the celestial cow being speared by some form of the god Re and the red dot on the tail is undoubtedly Sirus whom the Greeks while in Egypt would call Sothis. I don’t have the actual Egyptian name for Sirus handy at the moment.

para59r

Adds some quick notes here. Said “speared by some form of the god Re” mostly the myths read that the celestial cow was supported by other gods called into existence for that purpose. Also if you turn the image it gives the early evening view of Orion before it turns in the sky. Also at the bottom is the crocodile coming out of the water. When Sothis first appears in the sky after a few months absence is when the flood waters of Nile begin. Also the large red dot on the woman (I presume Isis) is also Sirus/Sothis. Obviously the artist should get some latitude on exact placement as the picture is complicated and more than one thing is wished to be shown. Also all the red dots on the heads of others are in someway showing allegiance to Re. The ones without it are likely in the Osirs camp or following the older Memphite traditions. This has much to do with the divide between Upper (South) Egypt and Lower (North) Egypt. Also of note Isis in the lower register is not fully on board with Re and some if this is due to her being the sister of Seth and Osiris both mother to Horus. Seth tried to kill Osirs and Horus avenged him. The story is complicated, but essentially Egyptians managed to keep Seth in the family though his followers were often hunted down and killed but always seem to rise again. In some ways Seth is your early version of Satan.

Deplorable Patriot

We still have one of those movie palaces here. It’s been transformed into a live musical venue. Great room.

eilert

Even older than the Sumerian astronomy text is the Sūrya-Siddhānta, which is a ancient Sanskrit text (more like a pocketbook for ancient Astronomers) describing the Indian Nakshatra system (like the Zodiak but with 27 instead of 12 divisions along the ecliptic) and is nearly as old or maybe even older than one Precession cycle.

This text needed to be regular updated because of changes in the earth axis wich resulted in seasonal shifts when the different Nakshatras were visible.
The Nakshatra system was used to determine the beginning of the year, which was the Spring Equinox i.e. 22nd March (In many parts of India this is still celebrated as start of the year even though they officially follow the Gregorian Calendar, a relic of the British colonial times.)

These changes can be back calculated using modern astronomical software to when they were done. The last one was done in 580 CE where the origin was set to the Ashvini Nakshatra, and this was adopted in modern Astronomy as the “First Point of Aries” in the late 1800’s when the current central meridian was shifted from Ujjain in India to the Greenwich Observatory in England.

In fact, at least six updates were identified with one going back to 12000 BCE when there were two Pole Stars one at the North Pole (Star Vega/Abhijit and one at the South Pole Canopus/Agastya)
See this paper from ResearchGate (PDF) Ancient updates to Sūrya-siddhānta by Nilesh N Oak & Rupa Bhaty
You can also see this Sangam Talk by one of the authors:

TheseTruths

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TradeBait2

Obviously, I like this recommendation as I have posted similar recommendations in the past.

The only difference I would make is cut off the fed funding right away. Violate the law, no money for you. The problem gets solved much faster. It is always about the money in blue crapholes.

kalbokalbs

…cut off the fed funding right away. Violate the law, no money for you. 

Cut off free money AND libtards pay attention quickly.

michaelh

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kalbokalbs

That is funny. I still wanna know what’s under a flat Earth.

Gail Combs

Turtles all the way down. We need to add Mitch to the collection.

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para59r

Interesting. In the third utterance of the Pyramid Text which can’t be attributed to Unas as he did not use the first 20 or so Utterances in his pyramid but were still talking earlier than 2000BC it states that “Recitation by Nut the great who dwells in the Lower Mansion…” Which since Nut is the celestial sky where the planets and their constellations were known, mentioning it as lower mansion implies mansions higher. Now we just have to figure out where the old lady got the Turtles from. 😮

Gail Combs

  :wpds_shock:   :wpds_lol:  You are right. I just wanted to get him out of the Senate ASAP!

Gail Combs

Sounds like a good idea.

scott467

“I still wanna know what’s under a flat Earth.”

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The dirty side, of course.

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If NASA lies about Pluto not being a planet, are they lying when they say the Earth isn’t flat?

You can’t argue that logic.

slowcreekno

If the Earth were flat, the cats would have pushed everything off the edge by now…

cthulhu

Clearly, the last word in the mnemonic should begin with “P” instead of “L” I would suggest “POOP”..

Aubergine

We could use “palter.”

michaelh

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Fauci declares that no reproducible medical studies prove that Pluto is a planet.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Barb Meier

If we teased Elon that he could not send Fauci to Pluto, what are the odds he would do it?

Tatonka Woman

Perhaps they could put Pluto through (re)gain of function studies.

michaelh

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Breaking Planetary News: Pluto Self-Identifies as a Planet

TheseTruths

😅

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cthulhu

Needs a policeman and an Indian chief, and then they could all sing “YMCA” together.

TheseTruths

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Off to Pluto…

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THIS.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent appointment! HOORAY POTUS!!!

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

Well, blow me down!

Shorting the British pound? Isn’t that how Sore-Ass got his start?

I had no idea MAGA included currency manipulation.

TradeBait2

Trump is firing a shot over the bow, or as we hillbillies say, “Watch this!”

Shorting currency is legal. The tactics and methods Soros used were not. Complicity with criminal elements within caused the result.

pgroup2

I guess I need more edumakayshun.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Don’t we all!!! 💖

eilert

And Soros had advance notice from the Blob (CIA, State Departement, Pentagon) when they decided to over through a government when he decided to short a currency. He was after all part of the Atlantic Council which is a Blob outfit.

TheseTruths

James O’Keefe:

The NIH Tapes.

11.25.24

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1860092351215259793

Preview, 34 seconds long.

TheseTruths

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cthulhu

How the hell is that not going to be an R loss in the House??? Oregon?!?!?

Aubergine

Well, she sucks, so maybe this is the way to get rid of her altogether. Hire her and fire her.

Brave and Free

Maybe so, hire them and when they don’t perform, “you’re fired.”

Alison

She lost the recent election to the Dem so her Congressional term was ending.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great move, then!

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

Will Gorka be allowed to have a table in the WH foyer to sell his pain reliever?  😂 

Aubergine

I think everybody just enjoys listening to him talk!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He’s easy on the ears!!! 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Two excellent appointments!

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump just has a way of finding DOERS! This guy just beats guys like “Mayor Pete” hands down.

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

Meet Dr. @MartyMakary just nominated by Trump as the new FDA Commissioner

“The greatest perpetrator of misinformation during the covid pandemic has been the United States (& Cdn) govt.. Public health officials were intellectually dishonest. They lied to the American (& Cdn) ppl”

https://twitter.com/dockaurG/status/1860135404642656767

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! I was already following him on Twitter. He routinely reposts our favorite critics of the Branch Covidians. Very smart pick.

TheseTruths

This won’t ruffle any feathers…😎

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scott467

Elon, Vivek say DOGE will cut eliminate funding for “Progressive Groups like Planned Parenthood”.

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FIFY.

I’m not sure how they are going to cut or eliminate all this funding, since the funding is probably written into law (e.g., budget bills that have been passed, authorizing spending on every idiotic thing under the sun).

Clearly they are aware of this, and yet they believe they can do it anyway, so there must be a way.

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TheseTruths

I don’t understand it all. I see that the funding received by PP is not supposed to go toward abortion. (Is there a person on the planet who thinks they abide by that?) States are also involved in funding.

Wiki:

Planned Parenthood receives over a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).[89][88]By law (Hyde Amendment), federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions (except in rare cases),[90] but some opponents of abortion have argued that allocating money to Planned Parenthood for the provision of other medical services allows other funds to be reallocated for abortions.[66]

A coalition of national and local anti-abortion groups have lobbied federal and state governments to stop funding Planned Parenthood. As a result, federal and state legislators have proposed legislation to reduce funding levels.[90][91] Eight states‍—‌Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Utah‍—‌have enacted such proposals.[100] In some cases, the courts have overturned such actions, citing conflict with federal or state laws; in others the federal executive branch has provided funding in lieu of the states.[94][95][101] In some states, Planned Parenthood was completely or partially defunded.[102][103]

Gail Combs

You have to REPEAL THE LAW!

OOOOoooh the Office of Population Affairs scrubbed the page!

https://opa.hhs.gov/opa/title-x-family-planning/index.html

And although Saved 1,214 times between August 27, 2020 and November 21, 2024.”

It redirects to a ‘NEW’ page.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240101221454/https://opa.hhs.gov/grant-programs/title-x-service-grants

For more info on Title X that has NOT been scrub go to my Article.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Also from that article:

U. S. AID was the primary mechanism for implementing control over third world countries. Think Carrot and Stick.

Or as Catherine Bertini, Executive Director of the United Nations World Food Program, and former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Agriculture, stated in 1995:

“Food is power. We use it to change behavior. Some may call that bribery. We do not apologize.” – UN’s 4th World Conference on Women: Beijing, China.

U.S. AID

The United States Agency for International Development is an independent agency of the U.S. federal government that is primarily responsible for administering civilian foreign aid and development assistance. With a budget of over $27 billion, USAID is one of the largest official aid agencies in the world and accounts for more than half of all U.S. foreign assistance—the highest in the world in absolute dollar terms. — Wikipedia

Except US AID actually never did provide real assistance INSTEAD it was all about fertility control as NSSM 200 outlines. (Time to DEFUND!)

So the US Tax payer has been FUNDING ‘Depopulation’ for my entire working life.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Except US AID actually never did provide real assistance INSTEAD it was all about fertility control as NSSM 200 outlines. (Time to DEFUND!)

So the US Tax payer has been FUNDING ‘Depopulation’ for my entire working life.

This is starting to make some sense.

Gail Combs

It is why third world countries hate us. It was NEVER about ‘aid’ it was about colonization.

7 Ways The United Fruit Company Devastated Central America

That time in 1954 when the CIA helped the company overthrow the democratically elected government of Guatemala.

The coup, conducted at the behest of the company sparked a civil war that lasted 36 years and claimed the lives of at least 200,000 civilians.

The rumblings that led to this tragedy began long before, however, and were spurred in 1944 when Guatemala elected Juan José Arévalo Bermejo President. Bermejo hoped to undo what his dictatorial predecessor Jose Urbico had done. Urbico granted the United Fruit Company lots of perks and plenty of influence.

But then Bermejo up and did things like establishing a minimum wage, build hospitals and schools, and set up health and safety standards, among other things. He was also looking to end unfair labor practices by large corporations. It wasn’t long before his policies were viewed as communist in origin and considered a threat to the company and other American-owned businesses….

Gail Combs

Yes, Nixon wrote it into law — TITLE X. It was in my DePop series. Title X was in response to Kissinger’s National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200

Stolen from: DEPOPULATION – NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE

THE SCHILLER INSTITUTE: Henry Kissinger’s 1974 Plan for Food Control Genocide by Joseph Brewda, Dec. 8, 1995

NSSM 200 was the U.S. Government’s formal response to the feverish effort in the private sector, especially in the latter part of the 1960s, to depopulate the earth or else we would all die.

Most of these advocates for population control are forgotten, but one that is still known today is Paul Ehrlich. His 1969 book, The Population Bomb, popularized a viewpoint that already had wide currency among the sophisticates and elites across the world. Political pressure was piled high and population ‘experts’ clamored to have their expertise acknowledged and implemented.

  :wpds_arrow: Finally, in 1969, Richard Nixon gave a speech which called for a national population policy. Federal funding for domestic population control began in earnest with the 1970 passage of Title X, which began funneling millions and millions of dollars into ‘family planning’ (a euphemism for ‘population control’) and established the Office of Population Affairs. This office still exists.

In 1972, Nixon called for a report to be given to him by what would become called the Rockefeller Commission Report. This commission consisted mostly of private sector individuals and organizations, and included men like Bernard Bereleson (president of the Population Council) and Frederick Jaffe Memo (Vice-president of population for Planned Parenthood). The commission’s report was submitted to the President in 1972, but to the chagrin of the elites, he did not act on it–at least, not publicly, and not domestically.

NSSM-200 – The Kissinger Report….

pgroup2

Impoundment.

I don’t remember who was being interviewed but he says the Impoundment Act of 1974 [IIRC] is unconstitutional and OMB is going to SCOTUS about it. The argument is that an appropriations bill is a ceiling, not a floor. So POTUS authority is to spend the money, not Congress. It’s a separation of powers issue.

It was on Warroom on Thursday. I was very pleased to hear it.

Gail Combs

They went after Nixon because he refused to spend money that Congress had provided. They also impeached POTUS Trump for not sending the money to Ukraine fast enough.

Gail Combs

Hope the lawsuit works.

Alison

A lot about the power of the OMB office I don’t understand but indications are that’s where a lot of this stuff *might* be handled. One can only … hope …

TheseTruths

“RedWave Press”

BREAKING: Trump’s Senior Advisor Stephen Miller revealed a world-class policy team is working on Day 1 executive actions and executive orders “that are going to implement every single one of [Trump’s] campaign promises.”

“The first day, the first week, the first 100 days, will be a bolt of lightning, and all the policies, reforms that Americans have been begging for, and pleading for, and asking for, President Trump is going to deliver.”

The policies that will be implemented on Day 1 include:

Public Health

Southern Border

Diversity Equity and Inclusion (DEI)

Removing men from women’s sports, bathrooms, and locker rooms

https://twitter.com/RedWave_Press/status/1860132986764591127

TheseTruths

Citizen Free Press:

STEPHEN MILLER SAYS PAM BONDI IS GOING TO KICK ASS.

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1860203285279572084

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I love it!!!

RAC

This is a link found OT, complicated story re MG

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1859748387291107797.html

cthulhu

Thing is, that’s only a couple of threads in the hairball. Well described, but doesn’t begin to cover the totality of weirdness going on.

scott467

“In exchange for Don fronting Mr. Kent’s rescue mission of Bob Levinson, unnamed agents with powerful contacts in the Biden administration would convince the president to give Don’s son Matt a full presidential pardon on his looming sex trafficking charges.
The price: 25 million dollars.”

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I would have LMAO at the agent who wanted $25 million in exchange for “unnamed agents with powerful contacts in the Biden administration would convince the president to give Don’s son Matt a full presidential pardon”.

I can hardly even read it without laughing out loud… I mean, you gotta be kidding 😂

A) unnamed agents – yeah, even better than ‘named’ agents, who I also wouldn’t trust as far as I could spit, either

B) powerful contacts in the Biden administration – oooh…. so you’re saying that unknown, unnamed somebodies have powerful unknown, unnamed contacts in the administration of a guy who can’t even tell you what day of the week it is? My confidence grows by leaps and bounds… did you guys make this up yourselves, or did you actually pay somebody for this script?

C) why do you need $25 million from me? You’re the U.S. government. $25 million isn’t even a penny to you. You give more than that to Ukraine, every second of every minute of every day.

There are infinite ways for the U.S. government to come up with $25 million — or any other amount — that will never be noticed or reported as missing.

You don’t need me for that… I know, because you do it every day, and you never asked for my help before 😂

Z) you (agents) can’t possibly be this stupid, nobody is this stupid — especially nobody who’s smart enough to have accumulated $25 million dollars in one of the most over-regulated, oppressive, high tax countries on earth 🤣

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TradeBait2

FIB/DoInjustice does those off the books “settlements” of legal claims all of the time. Routine business handled by the US attorneys and fed judges in the respective jurisdictions.

It became a big deal to use the method during Slick’s reign. It becomes dark money they can use for other purposes. Who is going to force them to account for the receipt of funds? Who is going to audit what is shoved off the books and reused for other nefarious purposes?

I know people who “settled” potential criminal issues through the civil court system. They wrote a check and released from any claims or accusations. It is the preferred method for FIB/DoInjustice. The accusations and claims are frequently bogus set ups that the accused has very little way to prove differently or does not want to be publicly exposed by the propagandist media arms of the clowns and FIB. People can talk big about standing up to the feds and for the truth until it is their and their family’s azzes on the line. PDT can afford to do it, 99% of the public cannot.

It is systemized evil. It is blackmail and extortion. The method is supported up the chain into the Oval Office. If is fully supported by the Uniparty because they do not want to be made the subject of same. Which makes it RICO as I have posted numerous times.

The average American has no idea what their “government” does. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it and I am living proof of being unable to unsee it for the past 45 years.

Gail Combs

If I recall they Feds were funneling the $$$ to Radical Left NGOs. OMB put a stop to it under Trump#1

Gail Combs

WOW, Complicated story.

I wonder if nominating Matt was a method of making that story go viral. Sure shows the US government in a very poor light.

scott467

“Sure shows the US government in a very poor light.”

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Poor light is the only light that will go anywhere near it.

cthulhu

So, let’s dig down into the important things…..

Pluto, the dwarf planet, was discovered February 18, 1930 and named May 1..

Pluto, the Disney comic dog, was first released on film September 5, 1930, in The Chain Gang — but without a name. Soon afterward, Pluto got a name in the October 9, 1930 film The Picnic — but the name was “Rover”. Only in April 30, 1931’s The Moose Hunt — and, of course, ever since — has Pluto appeared with the name “Pluto”.

According to Wikipoo,

Disney animator Ben Sharpsteen said “We thought the name [Rover] was too common, so we had to look for something else. … We changed it to Pluto the Pup … but I don’t honestly remember why.” Some Disney animators reportedly believed that Walt Disney chose the name to capitalize on the sensation of the newly named planet.

So, there you go — there is likely a link between the celestial Pluto and the celluloid Pluto.

slowcreekno

Pluto the Pup — that alliteration works well.

The link between the two looks likely.

TheseTruths

I didn’t realize the discovery of the planet and the creation of the pup were so close in time. It makes sense.

cthulhu

As a completely random diversion, I present to you the Australian wombat — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wombat .

When Luke mentions the “womp-rats back home” in Star Wars, this is actually very close to several of the names used for this creature over the last 170 years. Actual wombats are neither as large or as exciting as Star Wars, however, topping out at about a meter long. .

In fact, one of the most exciting characteristics of this species is its cubical feces. That’s right — this animal literally “shits bricks”. It is thought that this peculiar adaptation assists it in marking territories.

pgroup2

That gives me an idea for a new chocolate candy …

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Gail Combs

led to this CNN story

Baby saber-toothed cat mummy found in Siberia with intact skin, fur and toes is ‘mind-blowing,’ scientists say

12 minute video:

kalbokalbs

Whatever portion of this abomination is US contribution, needs to be zeroed out January 20, 2025.

Uproar at U.N. Climate Summit as Envoys Say Proposed $250 Billion a Year from West Not Enough
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2024/11/22/uproar-u-n-climate-summit-envoys-say-proposed-250-billion-year-from-west-not-enough/

pat frederick

I agree. this bleeding of funds from “the west” which mainly means the US (I’m guessing) has to stop. we are financing lavish salaries for “officials” and paying for “studies” and other nonsense. there are no solutions to this made up emergency, so it’s an endless boondoggle at our expense.

Gail Combs

Two purposes:

  1. GRIFT/Money laundry
  2. HAMSTRING US industrial might.

The Rockefeller File by Gary Allen
Published June 28th 1976

The master planners devised the strategy of a merger – a Great Merger – among nations.

But before such a merger can be consummated, and the United States becomes just another province in a New World Order, there must at least be the semblance of parity among the senior partners in the deal. How does one make the nations of the world more nearly equal?

The Insiders determined that a two-prong approach was needed; use American money and know-how to build up your competitors, while at the same time use every devious strategy you can devise to weaken and impoverish this country…

[See Chasing the Dragon: Clinton’s China Policy for how Clinton implemented this plan. ] “…The goal is not to bankrupt the United States. Rather, it is to reduce our productive might, and therefore our standard of living, to the meager subsistence level of the socialized nations of the world…” And that is what the World Trade Organization did to the USA by outsourcing US MANUFACTURING jobs to China and India.

…The plan is not to bring the standard of living in less developed countries up to our level, but to bring ours down to meet theirs coming up… It is your standard of living which must be sacrificed on the altar of the New World Order…”

pat frederick

well…screw that!
sorry…mama’s in a mood today

pgroup2

I’ll check back after mama simmers for awhile …

Should be entertaining.

pat frederick

LOL
it won’t be better for a long while

pgroup2

That’s why I love this place – never a dull moment.

  :wpds_wink:    :wpds_lol:  

pat frederick

it’s the pre game warm up to Thanksgiving. got my turkeys in the fridge thawing and going over my playbook…i mean ingredient list… checking it twice because goodness help me if i have to go to the store one more time to deal with “people”.

Gail Combs

Oh I agree, I have broken more than one tooth I have gotten so angry.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hope it was someone else’s and not yours 🙂

Gail Combs

Mine unfortunately.

TradeBait2

^^^ Yup. I am constantly amazed at the people who bought that. Let’s see, I want to give you our wealth and jobs so you can have what I earned and leave me and mine with less because, well, I believe you need it more than we do.

Stupid beyond words.

Deplorable Patriot

meager subsistence level of the socialized nations of the world

IDK. Some of the socialized nations I’ve visited live pretty well. They at least have better food.

Gail Combs

Actually the European governments seem to be in the process of killing off the ‘host’ between Muslim immigration and the idiotic Climate (CO2 BAD) laws.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. With the GangGreens, it’s their whole intent.

Indeed, back when the Green party was founded back in 1990 or so, they stated quite clearly that among their goals were complete elimination of nuclear power and the de-industrialization of Germany, and then Europe.

Seems that no-one was paying attention… 😡 😡 😡 😡

Businesses are either failing entirely, moving away from Germany, or laying off scads of people. Bosch is letting 5500 people go, VW is circling the drain (what? e-vehicles aren’t profitable?…), and hundreds of “Traditionsfirmen”, some of them hundreds of years old, are failing at record rates…

Greta the GangGreenhearted must be happy about that (although she never smiles)…

Deplorable Patriot

Good to see you.

Deplorable Patriot

Italy, specifically, but Switzerland, France, even Spain. Was not wild about Holland, Germany, and, believe it or not, Ireland. I need to get to Czechia and see Prague one of these days.

TradeBait2

Thoroughly enjoyed your post today, Steve. Thank you for the efforts you put in to educate us on these subjects.

GA/FL

SALLY Q UPDATE!

Hard day yesterday – !

Sally had been complaining of pain in side and back and it got worse over time.
Her Dad finally felt her back, side and abdomen and discovered fluid in the abdomen and a mass.

Took her to the ER and they did a CT scan showed multiple tumors on the sac covering the bowel. It’s probably a recurrence of the ovarian cancer she had surgery for in 2017. The oncology center will see her and do whatever biopsies and diagnostics are needed in hospital because of her disability, discomfort and difficulty in getting to town.

We have a lot of decisions to make and are in great need of prayer.
One prayer was answered already – her sister and husband came to see her and told her she loved her. There had been a decades long breach between the sisters that broke my heart. 

The LORD IS GOOD
HIS mercy is everlasting 
and
HIS truth endure unto all generations,
and forever – throughout all eternity!!!

AMEN

Brave and Free

🙏

PAVACA

GA/FL
My heart goes out to you and to her Sally Q’s father.
Praying for you, Sally Q, and her father.
Sending Good Energy and Deep Healing to Sally Q.
Sending Deep Courage to you and to Sally Q’s father.
Sending Deep Wisdom to the medical team.

Linda

GA/FL, I’m so sorry to hear that. Prayers up for Sally Q. Once she is out of the hospital, you might want to give some thought to giving her ivermectin. It doesn’t interfere with any other cancer treatment. Nor does Fenben.

TheseTruths

Sending prayers for Sally and for you all. 🙏 I’m sorry you’re having to endure these concerns, and I pray she will be restored to health. I second Linda’s mention of IVM and Fenben. Anything that might help.

Gail Combs

🙏 And I also suggest  IVM and Fenben AND DOUBLED VITAMINS!

My 2 pony sisters seem to be in recession from Cushings – caused by a pituitary tumor.

kalbokalbs

Wonderful Sally Qs sister visited, healing whatever the breech was. Prayers ongoing.

Aubergine

I’m so sorry you are dealing with so much. Praying for you all.

PAVACA

In response to a comment by our good pgroup2 late last night, regarding what Yours Truly posted on POTUS47’s nomination of Dr. Janette Nesheiwat to be Surgeon General:
The reference to the 2021 article:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covid-pandemic-end-trend-dr-janette-nesheiwat
In which Dr. Neseiwat was pushing the COVID-19 “vaccines”, masking, Remdesivir and Molnupiravir.

MUCH more sauce:

http://www.politico.com/news/2-24/11/22/trump-chooses-fox-news-contributor-dr-janette-neseiwat-for-surgeon-general-00191379

Dr. Peter Hotez COVID-19 “vaccine” fanatic, praises her:
https://x.com/PeterHotez/status/1860126524156051494

Liz Wheeler: Dr. Nesheiwat “is a COVID freak”:
https://x.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/1860127312198664612
An interview with Dr. Nesheiwat on Fox News IN 2023, regarding getting COVID-19 “booster shots”: Dr. Nesheiwat: “…talk to your doctor and find out what’s best for you.” BUT — in the same interview, she ALSO makes it clear that all persons who are elderly, who are immunocompromised, etc., NEED TO GET the “booster shot.”
[Which would necessarily mean that Dr. Nesheiwat HERSELF counsels these groups to “get boosted.”]

From StealthMedical1:
https://x.com/StealthMedical1/status/1860203904002404726

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About this tweet: It provides a link to further confirmation of Yours Truly’s strong suspicion that the COVID-19 “vaccines” my late brother took contributed to his “altered mental status” and ultimately to the “sudden-onset dementia” that he was diagnosed with shortly before he passed away last month.

https://x.com/drcraigwax/status/1860175743751229896
Dr. Wax is an Osteopathic Doctor (D.O.)

MY OPINION: Dr. Janette Nesheiwat is beholden to TWO separate Medical Certification boards to keep her certifications. She is ALSO beholden to the state medical licensing board of the state of Florida, which granted her License to Practice Medicine (License# ME104359.)

Her website, http://www.drjanette.net/, ** perhaps ** has been “scrubbed” of previous articles she wrote except for the most recent one, on Veteran’s Day.
Her mother came to the United States from her native Jordan in the mid-1950s. I do not know where her father came from, except that he also was an immigrant to the United States. An aside: Yours Truly cannot find any online records of if/when one, or both, of Dr. Janette’s parents became naturalized American citizens. It is interesting that Dr. Janette herself does not say anything on this regard on her website.

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para59r

Here she is on Tucker from 2022 advocating that children should not have the COVID vax because they have natural immunity.

I’d venture that she is among the medical community whose thought is evolving or evolved to see the insidious nature of COVID and it’s vaxxx. In other words she was captured early on by Fauci et al into believing the vaxxx was good. Will be interesting to see how her views have changed once we get to the confirmation hearings. Willing to bet she is no longer a strong supporter of the Vaxxx.

TheseTruths

I’d venture that she is among the medical community whose thought is evolving or evolved to see the insidious nature of COVID and it’s vaxxx.

That’s what this GWP article indicates.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/trump-appoints-dr-janette-nesheiwat-former-covid-vaccine/

All of the following is from the article:
…However, Dr. Nesheiwat’s recent statements indicate a significant shift in her perspective.
To her credit, Dr. Nesheiwat has since adjusted her stance as more data became available. She criticized the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for its handling of the vaccine’s rollout and mandates, particularly its impact on children.

Pfizer pulls FDA request for Covid vaccine for kids under 5. Good. How can it be approved without data https://t.co/BaQ7zTm95j

— Dr Janette Nesheiwat (@DoctorJanette) February 11, 2022

And:

If CDC approves a covid vaccine addition to the routine schedule of vax for kids, it will mark the most egregious unethical & harmful decision to children. No mandates. Especially for a vax that can’t prevent disease. May God give them the wisdom & courage to vote appropriately.

— Dr Janette Nesheiwat (@DoctorJanette) October 20, 2022

Dr. Nesheiwat has also questioned the vaccine’s efficacy in stopping transmission:
“COVID vax does not prevent disease like we once thought it did per the CDC / Pfizer etc.”

A big mistake. The CDC allowed us sick doctors/nurses to work while covid+ positive but you are penalizing those who already have natural immunity knowing the current vaccine does not stop transmission or acquisition of covid. https://t.co/JoK1CbCovP

— Dr Janette Nesheiwat (@DoctorJanette) July 8, 2022

More:

Agree. “Oh you’ll only have mild symptoms” is not enough anymore for me , how about no symptoms and no disease and lets get a better vaccine..

— Dr Janette Nesheiwat (@DoctorJanette) December 20, 2021

Health officials plan to discuss Pfizer vaccine stroke findings on Jan 26. That’s in 2 weeks! Answers are needed now not in 2 weeks. Perhaps seniors who just had Pfizer vax need a blood thinner ie aspirin for 21 days. But this can’t be recommended until more data is disclosed.

— Dr Janette Nesheiwat (@DoctorJanette) January 14, 2023

Gail Combs

Sounds like she can LEARN. That is a MUST for anyone in the position of Surgeon General.

pat frederick

sounds like something EVERYONE in a position of power should be able to do. otherwise we end up no account know-it-alls.

Gail Combs

Very true.

I am, hopefully, a LOT wiser and more informed than I was 3 decades ago or even 2.

Aubergine

“To her credit, Dr. Nesheiwat has since adjusted her stance as more data became available.”

Well, where did we get OUR data? WE knew better, and long before she did.

Where did Dr. Stella Immanuel get her data? Where did Vladimir Zelenko? Oh, wait, those guys questioned the establishment, and actually looked at the illness, instead of relying on the CDC and Fauci to tell them what to do.

The data was THERE. She didn’t ask questions, or go looking for it. She’s not a LEADER, she is a FOLLOWER. She doesn’t belong in a role that requires her to lead.

pgroup2

You would think DJT would understand the difference.

Maybe he took too many winimins.

Aubergine

No. He was blinded by his libido. Change my mind.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I hear you. BUT…… Maybe it’s not purely blind.

Trump gets an amazing amount of loyalty out of all these pretty, smooth-faced, long-and-straight-haired women that he favors. Even his divorced wives are loyal to him.

I think that Trump views these women as a kind of chess-piece – maybe his bishops. He realizes that other people can control them, but probably not as well as he can control them.

Maybe, to Trump, the fact that Bondi was manipulated by the Deep State (as Sundance has documented) isn’t that much of a problem, because it would make her MORE LOYAL TO HIM – particularly if he would never trick or manipulate her. And LOYALTY is something very important to Trump. I think it’s more important than a person’s past, provided that past wasn’t disloyalty to Trump.

When people become loyal to Trump, and stay that way, then Trump trusts them and gives them responsibility.

I think Trump trusts that Bondi may get suckered into traps, but her loyalty would cause her to do something other than betray him. In fact, I’ll bet that he thinks Bondi’s loyalty is similar to Gaetz’s.

Aubergine

I hope you are correct! I, too, value loyalty. If Bondi’s loyalty to Trump causes her to lean hard into his guidance when she is almost inevitably suckered by someone, or threatened by the Deep State, then I’m good with her.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We’re going to have to flank the fight from the right, to empower Trump’s moderate picks to get some backbone.

PAVACA

para59r
As of last year, Dr. Nesheiwat was still pushing for the elderly and the immunocompromised to get the COVID-19 “booster shots.” I give her a big side-eye until and unless she comes out and clearly states that NO PERSON should get COVID-19 “vaccinated”, because the “vaccines” are dangerous, even deadly. I doubt very much that she will do this.

In addition — please see this 2023 report from Denis Rancourt, PhD, regarding the fatality rate among COVID-19 “vaccinated” persons. The fatality rate among the elderly was very high.

https://correlation-canada.org/report-age-stratified-covid-19-vaccine-dose-fatality-rate-for-israel-and-australia/
Here is a screenshot of the Abstract of the paper:

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para59r

I not nearly as immersed in this subject as you and likely lack the intellectual capacity follow it all. However when the notion of people having to take these shots began while Trump was still in office the consensus here was that once you start on this vaxxx tract you pretty much have turned your immune system over to the drug companies as their vaxxx has destroyed your immune system. Going back to your own immune system was not seen as a viable option or that was our talk back in 2020. It’s clear though that since the advent of FLCCC offering up some solutions we are in a better position, but what position? and for whom?

Over all we lost the focus of that conversation though it’s evident some going back is quite realistic, but after booster after booster after booster I don’t think we’ve had that conversation. We keep hearing about irreparable harm. At what point is it actual irreparable and one should just stick with the drug company?

All that said though I’m not sure if that is what we are dealing with on Trump’s new pick or if she even brave enough to speak of it. Far as I see the Drug companies still have the upper hand in what language is allowed. To that I’d say she’s not fully broken free from the Fauci culture but it seems she’s still moving in that direction as the drug company wall crumbles.

singingsoul1

Is not RFK choosing his tea? Only wondering 🤔

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m reading her the same way. I think she is doing what I see many doctors doing – keeping their board certs.

She definitely understands the importance of natural immunity.

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Dr Janette Nesheiwat

@DoctorJanette

Yes, it’s true, an apple a day helps keep the doctor away. 🍎

1. Helps Boost Immunity- fruits like mulberries, apples & kiwi (my fav) are rich in antioxidants & vitamin C to strengthen your immune system against seasonal colds.

2.Supports Gut Health-high in fiber, which supports digestion & helps reduce your risk of cancer which is rising in young people.

3. Fruits provide natural sugars helping you stay energized without a sugar crash. 

4. Fruit nourishes your heart & keeps your cholesterol in check. 

5. Helps Manage Your Weight-low in calories, high in nutrients.

What’s your favorite fruit or veggie? 🍋

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para59r
Yours Truly is working on a Health Friday post that will blow the lid off what the COVID-19 “vaccines” do to the immune system of the “vaccinated” person.

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para59r

Great!
I said We had lost focus. Meant to say just myself, but maybe it’s more of us. Looking forward to it.

RedLegLeader68

OK, I’ll bite ….

Why isn’t Ben Carson nominated???

Aubergine

I believe Dr. Carson is not in great health. He may feel unable to take on such a role. I think he would be wonderful, but it is really up to him, and Trump of course.

Gail Combs

Yes, I had also heard his health was not good. He is 73.

The Hill: Ben Carson says he won’t be surgeon general, is meeting with Trump soon to discuss future

Aubergine

You know what I don’t want? A doctor who is dumber about medicine and health than I am telling me what to do about my health!

WE figured out Covid before she did. So did other doctors. WE knew ventilators were the WRONG treatment for Covid in what, May of 2020? Because a good doctor figured out that Covid was more akin to altitude sickness in the lungs than like a pneumonia, and WE read about it. We knew that, but she did not! Why? She didn’t QUESTION the Big Medicine establishment.

I don’t want some medical school-indoctrinated ditz who looks good on Faux News telling me or any other American what is healthy for us.

I honestly don’t CARE if she “evolved” in her thinking. She didn’t ask CRITICAL questions from the BEGINNING, which is when it MATTERS.

PAVACA

Aubergine
Correct.
Dr. Nesheiwat, IMO, will do and say what is necessary for her to keep her License to Practice Medicine and her two Board Certifications. If that means she’ll push for the elderly, the immunocompromised, and pregnant women to get COVID-19 “vaccinated”, she’ll do it.

Dr. Pierre Kory, M.D.; or, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, M.D.; or, Dr. Peter McCullough, M.D. — any of these physicians would be a MUCH better choice for Surgeon General of the United States.
Because EACH of them have done stellar work in exposing the TRUTH about the dangerous, deadly COVID-19 “vaccines” — and have been doing this for YEARS now.

Aubergine

I agree with all of your picks.

TheseTruths

I hear you, but I’m past the point of listening to any of them. To me, it matters not if she’s a “medical school-indoctrinated ditz,” an anti-vax extremist who sometimes gets things wrong, or something in between. There are very few people I would listen to regarding COVID and other health matters, and those people would not get confirmed. So here we are.

Aubergine

Yeah, sadly. I just hope she has NO influence over actual public policy.

duchess01

EACH DAY WE TAKE UP THE OFFENSIVE WEAPON OF THE WORD OF GOD – THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT – ONE VERSE OPENS THE DOOR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE CHAPTER MESSAGE

Verse of the Day for Saturday, November 23, 2024

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” 

1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!



duchess01

WE ARE FIGHTING A SPIRITUAL WAR OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ABUSED, MISSING, AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01
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duchess01

MIRACLES, SIGNS, AND WONDERS

When you discern a sign what comes to mind
Is it a warning or portend combined
Does it alarm you or charm your senses
Do you take heed or disarm your defenses

The contrast between the natural true
And what’s in the supernatural queue
A sign or wonder in the mind’s eye 
An ordinary occurrence nigh

The secret to both is to whom they point
And to what they prophesy and anoint
The purpose is your awareness of God
To recognize His power and be awed

An unexpected divine intervention 
Is sure to inspire and get attention 
The problem arises when fake seems real
Forged apparitions have their appeal

False prophets perform actions that fool
Their manifestations fail as a rule
Signs seek to enhance bring about belief
Wonders serve as signs of future relief

Miracles are evidence of God’s power
They last for much longer than an hour
Healing comes not from man or of his hand
That was never designed or even planned

Only God can work wonders and give signs
By His great love and His power confines
The miraculous is in His domain alone
There’s no greater gift from God ever known

D01: 07/15/2023

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duchess01

Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing 
#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.
#faith #god #psalms

prayeveryday777

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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️

michaelh

Lawmakers backing separate cyber force see opening with Trump’s return
In his first term, President Donald Trump took a big swing and established the Space Force; two House members told Breaking Defense he could do it again, for cyberspace.
By  Carley Welch
on November 22, 2024 at 8:20 AM
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/11/lawmakers-backing-separate-cyber-force-see-opening-with-trumps-return/

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has long pushed back against the establishment of a new military service dedicated to cyberspace, but with President-elect Donald Trump on his way back to the White House, a separate cyber force has a real shot at becoming a reality, according to experts and to lawmakers who support the move.

“This change in administration potentially could give more impetus to the creation of a separate cyber service,” Quentin Hodgson, formerly the Pentagon’s director of Cyber Plans, told Breaking Defense. “[Trump] did that with the Space Force. It was something that the Department of Defense didn’t want, but he decided he wanted it, and it’s possible that that could also happen with cyberspace.”

. . .

Emily Harding, vice president of the Defense and Security Department at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told Breaking Defense that the possibility of a cyber force under Trump’s second term is a “big shrug” and that she has “zero evidence” it’s in the works. But, she said, “I also know these guys like to build things, and you know they were the ones responsible for Space Force, so why not?” 

She added that Trump’s seemingly close relationship with SpaceX founder and technology innovator Elon Musk — who was recently tapped by Trump to co-lead the new Department of Government Efficiency — is another factor that could lead to a cyber force. 

“You could see somebody like Elon Musk understanding this in a way that you know other people might not. So I don’t know. I think there’s a decent chance that they pursue it. I think they should pursue it,” she said. 

Harding said she primarily supports a cyber force because she believes an independent service will allow the military to find the most cyber-capable fighters. 

. . . MORE . . .

michaelh

This has been making the round on tech news . . . DOJ antitrust action against Chrome

DOJ: Google must sell Chrome to end monopoly
https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/20/doj-google-must-sell-chrome-to-end-monopoly/

The U.S. Department of Justice argued Wednesday that Google should divest its Chrome browser to help break up the company’s illegal monopoly in online search, according to a filing with the U.S District Court of the District of Columbia.

Ultimately, it will be up to District Court judge Amit Mehta to decide what Google’s final punishment will be, a decision that could fundamentally change one of the world’s largest businesses and alter the structure of the internet as we know it. That phase of the trial is expected to kick off sometime in 2025.

Judge Mehta ruled in August that Google was an illegal monopoly for abusing its power over the search business. The judge also took issue with Google’s control of various gateways to the internet and the company’s payments to third parties in order to retain its status as a default search engine. 

The DOJ’s latest filing suggested that Google’s ownership of Android and Chrome, which are key distribution channels for its search business, pose “a significant challenge” to apply remedies for making the search market competitive.

RedLegLeader68

Something’s up … 😉

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barkerjim
para59r

Just saying in that wild tale about Pluto, I can’t believe you left out that it is Charon who ferries the dead across the river Styxx to Hades/Pluto.

Cuppa Covfefe

And there’s nothing worse than living in the Styxx…

michaelh

Ken Paxton news from 11/22 – good work in Texas:

Attorney General Ken Paxton Secures Over $100 Million in Environmental Penalties From Company Responsible for 2019 Chemical Manufacturing Plant Explosion

Attorney General Ken Paxton’s Medicaid Fraud Control Unit Helps Secure Conviction of Houston Pharmacy Owner in $160M Fraud Scheme

Attorney General Ken Paxton’s Criminal Justice Division Secures Life Sentence for Capital Murder in Midland

pat frederick

this is simply disgusting. this man does NOT belong anywhere near a decision making body.

Troublemaker10
November 23, 2024 12:32 pm

Just a reminder of Sen Mitch McConnell’s state of mind …flashback…

New Republican Leader John Thune made Mitch McConnell Head of the Rules Committee, the most powerful position in the Senate

Here’s Mitch McConnell being asked “What are your thoughts on running for re-election in 2026?”

You have to see this to believe it. These people are… pic.twitter.com/Xte37BZhS6

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) November 23, 2024

Is he mentally able to serve in the Senate any longer…much less on important committees?

Gail Combs

One of the replies

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pat frederick

not sure how this relates to the turtle being a zombie?

Gail Combs

Mitch’s wife is Chinese and his sister-in-law, the one who died in a freak ‘accident’ worked for the Chinese.

Like with Biden, the wife is probably the power behind the throne so it is the CCP that is BLOCKING MAGA.

pat frederick

OH!
you should be a map maker…i never would have seen that connection (altho i knew that info) from that tweet!!

Gail Combs

Actually I have been on mapping crews while caving. 😆

pat frederick

see? i was right…LOL

Gail Combs

😋

mollypitcher5

It’s disturbing to see again a powerful “leader” propped up by family, aides and the party in order to hang on to the position. Biden, Feinstein, R Ginsburg, McConnel and probably many more.
It’s just plain wrong

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. CCP is controlling way too many of our pols.

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Wolf Moon

@WOLFM00N

Governor Tim Walz was a perfect example of CCP compromise getting all the way to the point of taking over an entire state (MN). The CCP almost got Florida with gay meth-head Andrew Gillum. CCP also owns that loony former gov in Oregon, Kate Brown.

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Gail Combs
Barb Meier

Rules Committee by Elder Abuse – Blame the senile guy for unpopular rules by unnamed asshats.

singingsoul1

He is the pupped of those who pull the strings. Turtle lost his mind when he fell on his head.

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TheseTruths

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barkerjim

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TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

A waist is a terrible thing to mind 🙂

TheseTruths

Long time no see!

Barb Meier

Missed you.

PAVACA

Hi, Cuppa! So good to see you here!

Alison

https://twitter.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1860320889998336393

interesting comments by Scott Bessent the day befor the election.

Gosh, I wish we weren’t waiting in this do-nothing but deadly period of the Biden limbo. We have no functioning president and haven’t for months; meanwhile his totalitarian syncophants are running amok.

kalbokalbs

Continuing… NOT one R-con gives a damn. NOT. ONE.

From the link.

Lastly, I’m convinced this new Republican party that’s been reconstituted is the party of the future
He’s referring to the citizens.R-Con politicians are the same fuck sticks as before the election.

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Alison

Exactly.

we have two enemies. “Our” politicians are the greater of the two enemies.

Aubergine

I initially read your first sentence as “we have two enemas.”

I need a break, lol!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

cthulhu

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para59r

😆 Likely didn’t even need to use AI for that. 😮

Gail Combs

😋 Just offer her a ride!

Aubergine

Lol, that’ll make a man buy a Jag.

I’m still for buying the Volvo after the baby ad.

duchess01

EVENING PRAYERS

Healing Prayers

Prayer for Restorative Rest

Healing Hand, as I lay in my bed this evening, I pray for Your restorative power to touch my life. Mend what has been broken, soothe what has been hurt, and heal what has been wounded. May I find in sleep the healing that my body and spirit need and wake to a day of renewed health and vitality. Amen.

Evening Prayer for Wholeness

Gentle Healer, with the night’s calm, I seek Your healing for my body, mind, and soul. Where there is pain, bring relief; where there is fatigue, bring restoration; where there is distress, bring tranquility. Wrap me in Your peace as I trust in Your loving care to make me whole. Amen.

Prayer for Comfort in Illness

Lord of Comfort, as I face the trials of illness, I pray for Your healing touch. Ease my discomfort, calm my anxiety, and deliver me from my afflictions. In Your mercy, may I find the comfort that leads to a peaceful rest, knowing that You are with me, sustaining and healing me. Amen.

Nighttime Blessing for Healing

Divine Physician, under the canopy of the night sky, I pray for Your healing blessings. Let Your life-giving energy flow through every cell, every nerve, every aspect of my being. May my rest be deep, my healing complete, and my faith in Your power absolute. Bless me with the gift of health, and let my gratitude be a testament to Your mercy. Amen.

Serene Prayer for Recovery

Merciful Restorer, as I seek repose in the stillness of this night, I ask for Your healing hand upon my life. Guide the hands of those who care for me, provide wisdom for the paths of recovery, and grant patience for the journey. In this serene hour, let Your comfort envelop me, as I place my trust in Your plan for a full recovery. Amen.

https://enlightio.com/evening-prayers-for-today

pat frederick

WeThePeople2016
November 23, 2024 4:18 pm

It is official. Trump just posted that Brooke L. Rollins has been chosen as the Secretary of Agriculture.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113534345225690420

TheseTruths

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pat frederick

THANKS!

TheseTruths

YW!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

She sounds perfect. I can just imagine her getting eye twitch when somebody tries to tell her about the Bill Gates idea of vaccinating cattle to stop them from producing methane.

Aubergine

Not Kelly Loeffler.

I think all these leaks are traps. I really do.

scott467

I sure hope so.

pat frederick

https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/5a2dc846fcd0094c6c6199162e418cc0?s=64&r=g
WeThePeople2016
November 23, 2024 4:11 pm

I am hearing that America First Patriot Randy Fine is considering launching his Campaign for Congress in Florida’s 6th Congressional District!
 
A Harvard Educated, Successful Businessman, and Highly Respected State Legislator, Randy has been an incredible Voice for MAGA, and the Great People of Florida. In Congress, Randy will be an INCREDIBLE Fighter who will work tirelessly with me to Stop Inflation, Grow our Economy, Secure the Border, Champion our Military/Vets, Restore American Energy DOMINANCE, Protect our always under siege Second Amendment, and Restore PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH.
 
Should he decide to enter this Race, Randy Fine has my Complete and Total Endorsement. RUN, RANDY, RUN!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113534190029345867

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOW. A pre-endorsement!!!

para59r

A bit slow here… what did Joe Rogan say?

https://twitter.com/damonimani/status/1860358881576157461

TheseTruths

I think Rogan said he believes in dragons.
Joe Rogan Ups the Ante on His ‘View’ Feud With Dragon ‘Evidence’
1 day ago  Joe Rogan is doubling down on his belief in dragons, tweeting a steady stream of reptile content after being called out by The View.

TheseTruths

😂😂😂

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!!

Yup. And here’s the documentary!

Gail Combs

I think I will stick with pterosaurs.

scott467

I always suspected… ever since Puff 😁

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cthulhu

Don’t you mean Elliott?

scott467

No way, I didn’t even know who Elliott was until I searched “Elliott dragon”.

Puff is the OG 👍😁

Tatonka Woman

Oh, yes.
Mr TW was once saved by Puff the Magic Dragon.

Gail Combs

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Barb Meier
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cthulhu

For our Ohio residents…..

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TheseTruths

I have hoped someone would do this.

Eric Daugherty:

TRUMP CAN’T WIN – The Sequel.

It even has “In the Hall of the Mountain King” music in part of it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

pat frederick

leik
November 23, 2024 5:20 pm

JUST IN: Trump’s Attorney General Pam Bondi has begun creating a list of Presidential Pardons for January 6th defendants.

Let’s go!! pic.twitter.com/VOCsAqtayw

— Ian Jaeger (@IanJaeger29) November 23, 2024

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

GREAT idea!!!

bakocarl

I ran across another claim for DMSO. It’s that DMSO will clear up bruises . . . it’ll dissolve the components of a bruise that make it red, purple, black, etc.

I happened to have two large and colorful bruises on my forearm, so I applied DMSO to one of them. In 12 hours, most of the color was gone from that bruise so I put more on it and some on the other bruise, too.

Both bruises are color free after 24 hours.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent!

Now – just to prove this – which you can do…..

Next time…..

  • Take picture of a bruise
  • Bisect it with a line that balances is “best” to make two equal halves, overall
  • Treat one side with DMSO, the other with nothing, or just some body lotion
  • Take a picture again after 24 hours

This would be very useful scientific proof, IMO.

My prediction, based on your results, is that the bruise will be half-gone.

Gail Combs

Unless the effect ‘spreads’ which may very well be the case with DMSO.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And if it does so in a distance-proportional-to-dose-responsive way, then that ULTRA-PROVES that it works!

It’s simplest to make a base prediction and then watch for the possibility that the theory is over-proven.

Gail Combs

Now that would be interesting to observe. Esp if the response was time dependent too.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It almost certainly would be. It would all correlate to the rate of diffusion of DMSO laterally from the application area. In fact, it could be estimated from the photos just by placing rulers vertically and horizontally near the bruises.

bakocarl

While I was researching DMSO, I ran across an article on castor oil that showed some benefit, over time, for using castor oil on your eyelids, skin around the eyes and eyebrows. One of the specifics mentioned was that castor oil may help dissolve floaters in your eye when applied to the exterior skin.

So I tried it.

For years, I’ve had a large floater about 1/2 degree off the focus point of my right eye. No matter what I’m looking at, that floater is there hogging space in the middle.

The article said there may be a benefit over time. Well, after having it for years, it’s gone.

How ’bout that?

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s wild! How long did you treat the eye?

bakocarl

The floater disappeared about 12 hours after the first application. I doubted the result because the article said it would happen over time. I have no explanation.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s possible that the floater didn’t dissolve, but “floated away”, which could be faster.

bakocarl

Maybe the castor oil “released” the anchor.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly! And that’s a very logical possibility – or that it altered viscosity just enough.

litenmaus

Bako, I’ve been using castor oil on my eyelids to see if it has any effect on my cataracts. I’ve been using it for a little less than a year and I don’t have floaters any longer and bonus, my cataracts have not grown since January. Castor Oil is said to dissolve cataracts entirely, so I’m gonna keep using it.

bakocarl

It’s nice to find a good outcome!!!

Gail Combs

Nice to know since I was told about a year ago that I am starting to develop cataracts.

PAVACA

litenmaus
Thank you! Will try this myself, as I have “small, slow-growing cataracts”, according to my ophthamologist.

PAVACA

bakocarl
This is wonderful news! Thank you so much for posting about it!

cthulhu

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kalbokalbs

That’s funny.

para59r
cthulhu

AI may be more than just a passing fad…..

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PAVACA

Lol!

Cuppa Covfefe

Wonder who’d footing the bill for that 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I may have missed this, but I finally read it all, and WOW.

I know that I’ve spoken well of Pam Bondi, but she has made some big PC mistakes in the past, and this was one of them.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/11/21/president-trump-nominates-pam-bondi-for-u-s-attorney-general-the-deep-swamp-smiles/

scott467

When anyone thinks of an attack dog, to rip the Deep State apart and flush it down a hole, is the first person who comes to mind Pam Bondi?

Does this image strike fear into the heart of psychopaths?

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michaelh

Do her eyes glow red when she’s triggered?

cthulhu

When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man’s timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn’t his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husband, each confirms the other’s tale —
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man, a bear in most relations-worm and savage otherwise, —
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.

Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger — Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue — to the scandal of The Sex!

But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.

She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity — must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions — not in these her honour dwells.
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.

She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.

She is wedded to convictions — in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies! —
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.

Unprovoked and awful charges — even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons — even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish — like the Jesuit with the squaw!

So it cames that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice — which no woman understands.

And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern — shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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Jack Poso 🇺🇸

@JackPosobiec

Just wanted to make a note:

The piece of filth who swatted my parents last year was identified and has now been dealt with

He thought being overseas would save him

It did not

5:17 PM · Nov 23, 2024

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TheseTruths

I didn’t know about that. I wonder what “dealt with” means.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

IMO, reading the comments, it was likely being dealt with by local law enforcement in whatever country. Apparently this can be severe in countries like Australia.

scott467

“I wonder what “dealt with” means.”

____________

Strongly worded letter?

cthulhu

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Hakuna matata, the great circle of life, and all that…..

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“YOU GO, GIRL!!!”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The astronomy lesson was a lot of fun! Not confusing at all! Thank you!

I’m getting the demotion of Pluto now.

cthulhu

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….but how does it sound in Sindarin?

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para59r

Here’s a bit of what else Estee is going to be doing with Kamala out of the picture…

https://twitter.com/mommyrn88/status/1860480276272480305

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, that was hilarious! She’s no longer burdened by WHAT HAS BEEN.

cthulhu

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