2024·11·30 Joe Biden Didn’t Win (And Neither Did Kamala Harris) Daily Thread

As of desired publication time, 12:02 AM on November 29th, there are 51 days, 11 hours and 58 minutes before our Once and Future President, Donald John Trump, is restored to his rightful office.

Not that I’m counting, mind you.

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,716.90
Silver $31.41
Platinum $973.00
Palladium $1,034.00
Rhodium $4,950.00
FRNSI* 130.430+
Gold:Silver 86.498-

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend. (This time, apparently, markets closed at 12:45, not 3PM.)

Gold $2,650.10
Silver $30.69
Platinum $954.00
Palladium $1002.00
Rhodium $4,850.00
FRNSI* 127.199-
Gold:Silver 86.351-

Gold took a ninety dollar thumping on Monday, seemed to be going nowhere the rest of the week, but has recovered a little bit on Friday. The same is pretty much true of the other precious metals, though one will note rhodium actually dropped a bit. The gold:silver ratio still sucks (if you’re a silver fan).

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Flat Earth Cowards

Just remember that David Weiss, Eric Dubay, Mark Sargent, Nathan Oakley, Dean Odle, and Volker Meyer, all Flat Earth proponents on the internet, are intellectual cowards at best, and knowing fraudsters (politespeak for motherfucking liars) at worst, and I am in this case inclined to believe the worst.

After years of maintaining that the Sun does indeed set in Antarctica during the southern summer, but then claiming people aren’t allowed to go look, they’ve turned down the opportunity to go look. Worse, many of them condemn Jeranism, Whitsit Gets It, and Lisbeth Acosta for going.

Any reasonable person looking at this behavior should see the hallmarks of a fraudster. The fraudster wants you to believe what he says unconditionally. The fraudster wants you to 1) ignore the lack of evidence for his position and 2) the actual evidence against his position. This is a system for protecting lies.

Would someone condemn people for going and looking, if they sincerely thought their position was true?

These people are pushing bullshit and they know they are pushing bullshit. These people are lying turds.

By contrast, eight of the globers who spend time debunking flerfers are going, one is paying for himself, one is getting the free ride offered as part of TFE, the other six are crowd funded. Globers also crowdfunded Lisbeth to go when the anonymous donor who funded a drawing for the flerfers turned out to himself be a flerfer fraud. Globers crowd funding her, not flerfers. All of the globers (and many who are not going, such as Professor Dave Explains) have vowed to remove their anti-flat earth content and post a statement that the earth is flat, if the sun actually sets for those at the Final Experiment.

On The Fringes? The Trans-Neptunian Worlds

There are nine objects that are likely “dwarf planets” (i.e. objects too small to be “real” planets, but which are nevertheless rounded by their own gravity and orbit the Sun directly). It’s difficult to confirm the roundness of many of these as all we can see of them is a fuzzy blob, even with the Hubble Space Telescope.

Here they are:

Name
Minor Planet Number
min, max distances, (mean)
(in AUs)
Eccentricity (0=circular, 1=parabola)Inclination to ecliptic
(degrees)
Period (years)Year DiscoveredPrecovery Date
Ceres
1
2.55-
2.98
(2.77)
0.078510.64.601801
Pluto
134340
29.658-
49.305 (39.482)
0.248817.16247.9419301909
Quaoar
50000
41.900-
45-488
(43.694)
0.041067.9895288.8320021954
Sedna
90377
76.19-
937
(506)
0.849611.930711,39020031990
Orcus
90482
30.281-
48.067
(39.174)
0.2270120.592245.1920041951
Haumea
136108
34.647-
51.585
(43.116)
0.1964228.2137283.1220031955
Eris
136199
38.271-
97.457
(67.864)
0.4360744.040559.0720051954
MakeMake
136472
38.104-
52.786
(45.430)
0.1612628.9835306.2120051955
Gonggong
225088
33.781-
101.190
(67.485)
0.4994330.6273554.3720071985
Orbital Parameters of the nine likely dwarf planets

A word of explanation: The “precovery” date is the oldest image found of the object, when they go back looking to see if anyone ever accidentally photographed it. This seems like a bit of trivia, but those images can be extremely useful for determining the orbit of the object (not just the semi major axis, inclination and eccentricity but also the longitude of the ascending node, argument of perihelion and time of perihelion–those three orient the orbit (along with the inclination) and put the object at a certain spot in the orbit). This is why astronomers never throw away an astrophotograph; it may be beneficial decades later.

It should be noted that the full list of possible dwarf planets is 28 objects long, based on estimated diameters, though some have no names (just minor planet numbers). For the sheer sake of self-preservation, one should probably hope that 229762 Gǃkúnǁʼhòmdímà does not make the list, as !Kung words are notoriously hard to pronounce. (No, I am not making that up.)

By the opposite token, only Ceres and Pluto are absolutely solidly confirmed to be dwarf planets; it pretty much takes a spacecraft mission to confirm it.

Ceres is an outlier, obviously, because it’s the only object in the table that isn’t a trans-Neptunian object. I’ve covered asteroids already, so from this point forward I am going to ignore the world Ceres. (Never was much into baseball anyway.) Aside from Ceres the other oddball is Sedna, with a huge eccentricity and a huge orbit; it makes all of the others pale in comparison.

What would a well behaved full-blown classical planet look like in that table? It would have a low eccentricity and a low inclination. Quaoar actually behaves more like a planet than any of the others in the table (even including Ceres).

Here is another diagram, showing relative sizes, shapes, colors and brightnesses of these and some other objects. The color is of course an average color. In some cases there’s uncertainty as to size (as with Sedna), in which case a half-arc is shown at the maximum diameter. This one might reward a right-click-and-open-in-new-tab.

So now let’s take a look at these in more detail; I’m going to save Sedna and Pluto for last (and not bother at all with Ceres).

Quaoar

Quaoar (pronounced kwah-wahr, though more strictly speaking it should be “kwa’uwar” with the ‘ representing a glottal stop as you hear in the Hawaiian pronunciation of Hawai’i) is named after a deity of the Tongva people, and for me at least that answers nothing until I go look up “Tongva people.” It turns out they were a tribe in what is now the Los Angeles basin. (They also call themselves the Kizh.) Their language is distantly related to Aztec.

Quaoar was discovered 4 June 2002 by Chadwick A. Trujillo and Michael E. Brown at the Palomar Observatory (they were not using the big 200 incher but one of the smaller (but still big) instruments, the Samuel Oschin telescope. They were running a survey looking for Kuiper belt objects (little did they know…). Once it was determined that Quaoar was not in a resonance with Neptune (making it a qubewano-class TNO), the naming convention dictated it be named after a creation deity; Brown and Trujillo consulted with some present-day Tongvas to be sure it was an appropriate name.

Quaoar is an elongated ellipsoidal shape averaging 1090 km across, making it less than half the size of Pluto (2,376.6 km). (We know it’s not perfectly spherical because its brightness varies over a span of 17.68 hours–which we infer is its day. This could just be brightness differences, like with Iapetus, but we’ve also watched Quaoar cross in front of stars and timing the length of the blackouts leads to different estimates of the diameter.) Quaoar is also a very dark object reflecting only 12% of the light it gets from the Sun (which ain’t much to begin with!) It’s somewhat reddish, like 20000 Varuna and 28978 Ixion (both objects that are on the “long list” of possible dwarf planets).

So if it’s not really round, what’s the deal with it being considered a dwarf planet? Normally any rocky body over 900km or so, or any icy body between 200-400 km across should go round. If it’s slowly rotating it should be a bit oblate (wider at the equator than through the poles). A faster rotation should resemble Haumea’s case (see below). So how can Quaoar not be round? It’s absolutely big enough. It’s possible that Quaoar used to rotate more quickly, froze into shape and then Weymot slowed its rotation down due to tidal effects. (Saturn’s moon Iapetus has a similar situation going on but is not as extreme.)

Here are the discovery images put together as a GIF. It’s easy to spot when there’s an arrow, isn’t it?

And now (drumroll) our best image, from the Hubble space telescope:

And yes, Quaoar has a moon, Weywot, discovered by Brown in February 2007; Weywot is the son of Quaoar in Tongva mythology. Weywot is about 200 km across (though some places in Wikipoo show it as smaller), which makes it too small to be rounded (the smallest rounded object known is Mimas (Saturn’s “Death Star” moon), at 396.4 km; there is at least one non-rounded objects that are larger: Neptune’s moon Proteus). Quaoar also has a ring.

Here are a couple more diagrams, the first being a picture of Quaoar’s orbit (in cyan and blue) compared to Neptune (white) and Pluto (red). The two spheres are not only about the right sizes, comparatively speaking (but not compared to the size of the orbits!), but they are correctly colored (an average color) and even the brightness (albedo) is correct.

And another, an “overhead” view with Quaoar in yellow, Pluto in magenta/pink, Neptune in blue, and a few other TNOs in a drab green.

On the whole, we know next to nothing about this one…and that’s pretty much going to be true of most of the others. They’re just too doggone far away.

Orcus

Orcus is estimated to be anywhere from 870-960 km across, thus about the size of Ceres. It’s fairly bright, neutral in color and largely made of water ice; apparently the ice is mostly crystalline so maybe sometime in the past there was cryovolcanism (i.e., water volcanoes).

Orcus was discovered by Michael Brown, Chad Trujillo and David Rabinowitz on 17 February 2004 (note that two of these astronomers also discovered Quaoar). In this case, Orcus got named after one of the Roman gods of the underworld, because it’s a plutino.

What is a plutino? Plutinos are objects that, like Pluto, are in a 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune, orbiting twice in the time it takes Neptune to orbit three times. (Note in the chart above it has nearly the same year, and mean orbital distance, as Pluto.) But Orcus tends to be furthest away from the Sun when Pluto is closest, and vice versa.

Here we see a Hubble Space telescope image of Orcus, and its moon Vanth. Vanth is estimated to be 475 km across by some, which is easily large enough to end up in that “Medium Small” 250-500km size bucket with Mimas, Hyperion, Proteus and Nereid, but other estimates put it below that 400 km line yet still in that bucket. Considering it’s likely frozen solid, and how rigid ice is at those temperatures, it’s not expected to be a round moon. (Note that I made a point to talk about any moon in that size bucket, and above, as I went through the 8 big planets.)

Vanth was named after an Etruscan deity, a “psychopomp” who guides the deceased to the underworld.

It is, however, big enough that the center of gravity of the Orcus-Vanth system is actually outside of Orcus, making it a double object. Vanth orbits Orcus in 9.54 days, and appears to rotate in the same amount of time. The rotation of Orcus, on the other hand, has been harder to nail down, so we don’t know if both bodies are tidally locked or just Vanth.

All in all, Orcus is often thought of as an “anti Pluto” since it’s phased the opposite of Pluto and has a (proportionately) large moon like Pluto. It’s even more striking when you see the visual of the orbit (Neptune’s orbit in white, Pluto’s orbit in red, Orcus in cyan and blue–note the color changes when the object crosses the ecliptic, and note the spheres are to scale with each other, the correct colors and albedos, again):

Haumea

Haumea is named after the Hawai’ian goddess of childbirth. It was discovered by Mike Brown at Caltech, but announced by a team headed by Jose Luis Ortiz Moreno at the Sierra Nevada Observatory…not our Sierra Nevadas, but rather the ones in Spain. There’s controversy over who should get the credit for this one. It’s the third largest TNO after Pluto and Eris. Here’s a picture, again from the Hubble Space Telescope:

This one’s a bit odd. Based on watching it fluctuate in brightness, it’s a very elongated triaxial ellipsoid, meaning it has a long axis, a medium axis at right angles to that, and a short axis at right angles to the other two. Here’s an artist’s rendering of Haumea:

But this is actually the shape one would expect of a rapidly rotating object under hydrostatic equilibrium; Haumea rotates in about four hours.

So how long are the axes? Haumea is roughly 2100 by 1680 x 1074 kilometers. Or perhaps 2322 x 1704 x 1026. Depending on whose numbers you believe. Either way, it’s a sizeable object.

Haumea has moons, as you likely noticed…not just one but two of them known so far. Hi’iaka (upper right in the picture) is a medium-small moon about 310 km across, in that same “bucket” as Mimas, but probably not rounded. Namaka (lower left) is roughly 170 km across. They are named after two daughters of Haumea, the patron goddesses of the Big Island of Hawai’i, and the sea, respectively.

(That brings us, by the way, to the end of the list of medium-small moons: Mimas, Hyperion, Miranda, Proteus, Nereid, Vanth, and Hi’iaka… or does it? It turns out ttwo additional objects on the long list of possible dwarf planets, Salacia and Varda, also have moons in this size bucket. And there’s an almost perfectly-matched double body, Lempo (at 272 km) and Hiisi, with the best estimate for Hiisi being 251km (just squeaking by). If there’s one thing about TNOs, it’s that they tend to have comparatively large moons!)

Haumea is as bright as snow, with an albedo of 0.73…meaning that 73 percent of the light that hits it is reflected back. It seems to have crystalline ice on it, which is puzzling, because crystalline ice should only form above 100 K, and Haumea is at 50K, and only amorphous ice should form at that temperature. Furthermore once it forms, cosmic rays plus what’s left of the solar wind out there should degrade it to amorphous ice in about 10 million years. On top of that, old surfaces out there end up covered in tholins (“star tar”), making them appear red. So it seems that Haumea’s surface is new, but we don’t know how that could have happened. (I could spitball it, but that would be worth less than you paid for this article.)

Haumea appears to have a ring, discovered as it passed in front of a star.

Haumea turns out to be the largest member of a family of objects that have similar orbits and it appears they may all be remnants of a larger body that broke apart due to a collision. But it appears to have happened at least a billion years ago based on orbital dynamics considerations, so that won’t explain the white, crystalline ice surface of Haumea.

The New Horizons probe that went to Pluto actually took some pictures of Haumea on three different occasions…from quite a distance however. The 2007 shots were from 49 AUs away, others were in 2017 at 59 AU and in 2023 at 63 AU. Still, being able to compare the “side view” from what we see on Earth has been helpful.

Haumea’s orbit turns out to resemble Makemake’s (see below). As a bonus Quaoar is also shown:

Eris

We talked about Eris a lot last time. With a diameter of 2326 km it’s a smidge smaller than Pluto, but it’s denser (more rocks, less ice) but is considerably more massive than Pluto, 27% more in fact. As pointed out last time, if Pluto is a planet, Eris is too.

Here are Eris and Dysnomia photographed in 2006, and we’re lucky to have this, because at the moment Eris is 96.3 AUs from the Sun.

Here’s the same sort of orbital diagram I’ve showed for the others…but note in this one Neptune’s orbit is quite small.

MakeMake

Makemake (MAH-ke-MAH-ke) is comparable in size to Saturn’s moon Iapetus, or 60% the diameter of Pluto. From what little of it we see, it may actually have geothermal activity, even though it’s one of the coldest bodies in the solar system at 40K. (When you see the words “possibly nitrogen ices” in a wikipoo article, you know the place is colder than Hitlary Klinton’s lap.) It’s named after a creator god in the Rapa Nui mythology of Easter Island. Again, Michael Brown is on the list of discoverers. And again we have a fuzzy image from Hubble Space Telescope.

And yet again, we have a moon, one that hasn’t been named yet.

Makemake is bright enough–brighter than any TNO other than Pluto–that perhaps it should have been discovered much sooner (maybe even by Clyde Tombaugh). There are even claims that Tombaugh in fact should have seen it, but it was buried right in the Milky Way and with all those stars around it, it would have been hard to spot. However, it hasn’t been spotted in any of his photographs, so it’s not that he photographed it and didn’t notice. It turns out the earliest precovery date is 1955 and Tombaugh stopped looking for additional objects in 1943.

Here’s another one of those graphics of the orbits, as usual the ecliptic in white, Pluto in red. Haumea is in green and MakeMake is on the blue line. The closest and farthest approaches to the sun (the perihelia and aphelia are given. The spheres are correctly sized, the correct colors and the correct albedos.

Gonggong

Discovered by Megan Schwamb, Michael Brown and David Rabinowitz on 17 July 2007, again as part of that Palomar Distant Solar System Survey. Megan Schwamb actually was the first to spot it with the blinking technique that Tombaugh used to discover Pluto. Gonggong is a water god in Chinese mythology, usually depicted as having a copper and iron human head on a serpent’s body. Gonggong is often accompanied by Xiangliu, his minister, a nine-headed poisonous snake. Both are associated with flooding catastrophes.

But enough about the Deep State.

Gonggong is 1230 km across (give or take 50 km), about half the width of Pluto, and a fairly dark body. Here is another Hubble Space telescope image:

And yes, there’s a moon, named Xiangliu, of course.

Gonggong is very red, so almost certainly covered in tholins. There is some water ice, so maybe there was some cryovulcanism in the distant past.

It’s a lot like Eris in having a large orbit, as seen in this polar view (view from above) in which both it and Eris are shown:

And the same thing, seen from the side:

Gonggong and Eris seem to have similarly-extreme orbits (but not nearly the same orbit). Right now Gonggong is 88 AUs distant. Based on color and brightness it’s likely made of the same stuff as Quaoar.

Sedna

And now to go back to Sedna. Sedna is just…different from the rest. It’s red, it’s far, far away, and it’s going to get a lot farther away, eventually. It’s also the only one of these nine with no known moon. It’s very roughly 1000 km across. And because it has no moon whose orbit we can measure and time, we have only the vaguest notion of its mass. And now for a smashingly spectacular picture from Hubble Space Telescope:

Although I was flippant when I said that, if you think about it, it’s a huge acheivement to be able to take even this picture. Sedna is presently 83.55 AUs or 12.5 billion kilometers away. Right now Eris and Gonggong are further away, but that won’t remain true forever, since Sedna’s aphelion is 937 AU, not only busting into triple digits for the first time, but nearly reaching four digits.

Sedna is not the furthest though. There is a smaller object with and even more extreme orbit, 541132 Leleakohonua, perihelion 65.16 AU and aphelion…are you sitting down? of 2106 AU, with an orbital period of 35,760 years. However, this object is maybe 110 km across and in no way a dwarf planet. Right now it’s about 78 AUs out, getting closer to perihelion in 2078. (As a bonus the eccentricity actually busts the 0.900 mark at 0.93997.)

Neither of these objects would ever have been found if they didn’t happen to be at the near part of their orbits. Given that objects like this spend a lot less time near the sun than they do further away, there are probably a lot of them out there, simply too far away for us to detect.

Objects like this are so extreme, there’s now a new class of objects, “Sednoids” including these two plus one other (a bit less extreme than Sedna). Some have suggested that they’re really members of the inner Oort Cloud. (I haven’t talked about the Oort cloud…yet.)

There is also speculation that these crazy orbits are caused by encounters with a full planet out there somewhere, perhaps 400AU out. The fact that a lot of aphelions seem to be in very roughly the same place lends credence to this. Here are the three “Sednoid” objects (2015 TG387 is Leleakohonua’s provisional number):

Pluto (Finally)

An Ode to New Horizons

Until the Hubble space telescope, a typical photo of Pluto showed a bunch of white dots on a black background, and an arrow pointing to one of them. Pluto was only distinguishable from stars by its motion, which took days to become obvious.

Then Hubble Space Telescope took a look in 2003, and what it gave us, was used to make this animation, as Pluto did a full rotation in 6.4 days…retrograde, apparently:

Then suddenly in 2015…you could buy a fricking globe of Pluto. I saw one for sale in the observatory store at Griffith Park playing tourist one evening while on a business trip and there was no way it wasn’t coming home with me. That simple metal sphere encapsulated everything about our planetary space program…from a dot on a page to a real world, within my lifetime.

So what happened?

THIS happened:

The New Horizons probe went to Pluto.

We first had to get permission. According to Wikipedia:

In 1992 JPL scientist Robert Staehle called Clyde Tombaugh, requesting permission to visit his planet. “I told him he was welcome to it,” Tombaugh later remembered, “though he’s got to go one long, cold trip.”

Tombaugh passed away in 1997. A small portion of his ashes were on the New Horizons spacecraft. He got to go along for the ride. On the container is inscribed, “Interred herein are remains of American Clyde W. Tombaugh, discoverer of Pluto and the Solar System’s ‘third zone’ Adelle and Muron’s boy, Patricia’s husband, Annette and Alden’s father, astronomer, teacher, punster and friend: Clyde W. Tombaugh (1906-1997)”.

Could he have possibly imagined back in 1930 that in a very real sense, he’d get to go there?

By the time New Horizons launched in 2006, mere months before Pluto got “demoted” to dwarf planet, we had known (since 1978) that Pluto had a large moon, Charon, one large enough to qualify Pluto as a double planet. And we had found two others, Nix and Hydra, though they are much smaller. At the time, Pluto + Charon was the only known case of a moon that was so large in comparison to its primary that the barycenter (center of gravity) of the system was outside of the primary. As such both the planet and moon orbit a point out in space. Here is a series of pictures taken by New Horizons quite some time before closest approach.

New Horizons did something that back in the 1970s was deemed nearly impossible, a direct trip to Pluto. Back then Jupiter was just barely reachable by a probe of useful size; we could (and did: Pioneer 11, Voyager 1 and Voyager 2) get to Saturn, Uranus and Neptune by first going to Jupiter and getting a gravitational assist (a/k/a slingshot) from it.

But this time we went directly to Pluto. Actually, we did use a gravitational assist from Jupiter, but we didn’t have to. We’d have got there without it, albeit after three more years.

This involved launching the probe directly into a solar escape trajectory. How fast is that? At Earth’s distance from the Sun, it’s a bit over 42 kilometers per second. We had to break free of Earth’s gravity and then still be doing 42 km/sec with respect to the Sun, at which point, it doesn’t matter which direction you’re going, you’re never coming back to the Solar System. Of course in this case the direction did matter, we wanted to go to Pluto in particular. And also, we got 30 km/second of that 42 km/second from Earth’s speed around the sun, by launching in exactly the direction Earth was moving.

And to do this we made the probe as small as possible (the size of a desk) and put it on the biggest effing rocket we had, including special upper stages to push the thing harder once in space. It was the fastest thing we ever launched.

And now for the NASA animations. No audio in the first one (and note Pluto doesn’t look right–the animation was produced before the mission):

The second one is more “loaded” technically showing what the instruments are doing every moment, as well as spacecraft orientation. (It also has a music track.)

As you can see, Pluto’s moons were in orbits that made it look like a big target, but the object is to not hit the bullseye. New Horizons had to spend the entire time on July 14, 2015 looking at Pluto and its moons, without stopping to transmit to Earth (it would have to turn around to do that, pointing the big dish antenna basically towards the Sun and losing absolutely irreplaceable time). Only after collecting 6GB of data and with Pluto, Charon, and the other four moons in the rear view mirror, could the spacecraft contact Earth…and then spend the next eighteen months transmitting all of that data.

You can imagine the people at mission control bit their nails clean off, waiting. But then New Horizons phoned home. It had come through just fine and it had goodies to send us.

So what did we get?

1. This:

2. And this:

3. And this:

4. And this:

5. And this:

6. And this:

7. And this (ice volcanos highlighted in blue:

8. And finally (but not really, I could keep going on) this:

And that’s Pluto, yet more pictures and data were taken of its largest moon Charon:

And the other four moons; it’s probably easiest to just throw a composite image at you:

So needless to say we know a lot more about Pluto than we do about all of the other TNOs I’ve talked about, put together.

NASA does engage in CGI sometimes (in spite of the fact that the Flerfers claim it does–they’re generally completely wrong but not in this case) and they produced this video of what a flyby would look like, based on what New Horizons returned:

Pluto Itself

So…here we go.

Pluto was named after the Roman god of the Underworld, the corresponding Greek god was Hades. It’s 2,376.6 km across, give or take 1.6 km. And 0.2 percent as massive as the Earth or 17.7 percent as massive as the Moon. It orbits the Sun in 248 years, rotates once on its axis in 6.38680 days…but with an axial tilt of 122.53 degrees, it’s considered a retrograde rotation. (These numbers are awfully precise, on account of New Horizons.) At this particular time Pluto’s northern hemisphere is pointed towards the Sun, and New Horizons thus was unable to get the very southernmost part of Pluto, it was in darkness during the entire time of the encounter.

Pluto’s rotation is the same as Charon’s orbital period, which means that not only does Charon always show the same face to Pluto (as is true with every other major moon in the Solar System), but Pluto always shows the same face to Charon. Scientists will invent coordinate systems at the drop of a hat, and the line directly facing Charon is the 0 degree longitude line on any map of Pluto.

Geology and Geography

Oh, that reminds me:

Composite “Mercator” image of Pluto (it’s not really a Mercator projection when the latitude lines are equally spaced). Note that a lot of regions are named after spacecraft (Venera, Voyager, Pioneer, Viking) or astronomers (Lowell gets a Regio too). But also notice that a lot of the names come from fantasy and science fiction, like Balrogs and of all things, Cthulhu–though that one was often called “the whale” too. (Bad news on that last, it got renamed Belton Regio.)

Pluto has mountains and plains, and the first picture plainly shows the “Heart of Pluto” which simply had to be named Tombaugh Regio after Clyde Tombaugh. Tombaugh Regio is a plain, and by the way, is on the side of Pluto that faces away from Charon. The plains are mostly nitrogen ice (brrrr), with some methane and carbon monoxide, all in solid form of course.

The western and more distinct lobe of the “Heart” is Sputnik Planitia, a 1000 km wide basin of frozen ice, but as the second image shows it’s divided into polygonal cells, almost certainly convection cells that carry floating blocks of water ice crust and sublimation pits at the margins. There are signs of glacial flows both into and out of the basin. Furthermore, not one single crater was spotted, which indicates that Sputnik Planitia’s surface is less than ten million years old; in fact the latest work claims 140,000-270,000 years. There are also transverse dunes in Sputnik Planitia, which are formed by wind-blown particles, in this case of frozen methane.

What are the mountains made of? Water ice. When you order something “on the rocks” here, you mean it literally. The color ranges from charcoal black to dark orange and white; Pluto has as much contrast as Iapetus.

The fifth “This” above shows lots of 500 m high mountains from Tartarus Dorsa, the spacing reminds people of scales or tree bark. This doesn’t appear anywhere else we know of, except maybe on the unseen side of Triton…or perhaps in the Atacama desert. These are likely penitentes, icy spires that form in deserts, so named because they resemble large numbers of people at prayer.

Cutting through Tartarus Dorsa and Pluto’s heavily cratered northern terrain (and therefore younger than either) are a set of six canyons radiating from a single point; the longest is Sleipnir Fossa which is at least 580 km long.

And cryovolcanos. We’ve identified two possible cryovolcanos, Wright Mons and Piccard Mons. Piccard Mons is not named after Star Trek’s Jean Luc Picard but rather the French ballooning pioneer (two C’s, see?).

Pluto, in short shows an absolutely stunning variety of geology. Glaciological, surface-atmosphere (the dunes), impact (craters), tectonic, likely cryovolcanic, and mass-wasting (rocks falling down hill), it’s all there. This world turns out to be much more interesting than I expected back then.

Internal Structure

We know Pluto’s size. We know its mass. That means we know its average density; divide the mass by the volume. And we get 1.853 g/cm3. That means it’s a mix of rocks (things we think of as rocks) and ice, and it’s roughly 70/30 rock/ice. So we believe Pluto has a silicate (rock) core, surmounted by a mostly-water ice mantle and crust. It may even have a subsurface ocean like Europa and Enceladus. Though some think it may now be frozen, it’s just barely possible it was inhabited at one point. (This is one place where Wikipedia is a bit frustrating. The text makes it sound like no one believes there’s still liquid water down there, but the diagram indicates otherwise.)

Atmosphere

Pluto has an atmosphere as is quite evident in pictures 3 and 8 above. In fact getting New Horizons out there quickly rather than waiting a few more decades was partially motivated by this; Pluto is fairly close to the Sun right now, and that, we thought, would make the atmosphere more active. As Pluto got further from the Sun, its atmosphere might freeze out.

The atmosphere is made up of nitrogen, methane, and carbon monoxide, all sublimated from the surface ices, and in equilibrium with them (if any of them “snow” out of the atmosphere, then ices elsewhere on Pluto will sublimate to restore them). The pressure is anywhere from 1 millionth to 1/100,000th that of Earth.

Since New Horizons was launched, however, we’ve determined the atmosphere might actually thicken as it gets colder.

In any case, New Horizons‘s parting shot at Pluto was a backlit shot, used to image the atmosphere. Scientists have learned to take a “backlit shot” opportunity when it presents itself.

Moons

Pluto has five moons. And all of them are regular, orbiting in the plane of Pluto’s equator. Here’s a scale diagram…full scale, distances and diameters shown accurately (you rarely see those in astronomy!).

First up is Charon. Orbiting at 19,595.764 km from Pluto (give or take 7 or 8 meters!) and at 1212 km across, it’s a medium size moon according to the terminology I’ve been using, so now we have nine: Rhea, Iapetus, Dione and Tethys at Saturn, Ariel, Umbriel, Oberon and Titania at Uranus, and now Charon.

Pluto is 2376.6 km across. Compared to it Charon is huge. No, wait, yuge. It’s bigger than Ceres.

Charon was discovered in 1978, and named after the ferryman of the underworld in Greek mythology. (You had to pay him a coin to get ferried across. No word on what people who died in the Trojan war (centuries before coinage) had to do.) But that brings up a question. How do you pronounce “Charon”? The Greeks spell it Χάρων, and that X is like the ch in Bach. But no one in English-speaking countries says that, it’s either “Sharon” or “Karon.” The discoverer, James W. Christy (born 1938), maintains that he named it after both Χάρων and his wife Charlene, who was nichnamed “Char” (pronounced Shar), so he goes with “Sharon.” (I’m just insane enough I’d probably try to pronounce it with the ch in Bach if I ever had the chance to talk to someone about it. Y’all are both doing it wrong!)

Christy saw a bulge on the side of blobs taken of Pluto from the Naval observatory at Flagstaff. It would disappear and reappear regularly, indicating something in orbit about Pluto. In the image below (which is a photographic negative) there’s a bulge at the top on the left hand side, and no bulge on the right hand side. And so here’s an example of what Pluto looked like before HST looked at it.

Needless to say we have better pictures now.

A few years after Charon’s discovery, its orbit was edge on to us here on Earth and we could study the light curve and prove an object was transiting in front of Pluto, then behind it, even if we couldn’t resolve it as a separate fuzzy blob.

Charon is yuge compared to Pluto, and it’s the first case of a moon large enough that the center of gravity of the system is outside of the primary. Back before Pluto got demoted from planet status, many proposed that Pluto and Charon be considered a binary or double planet. And if Alan Stern succeeds in convincing people he was right, it might become one again.

In the following animation, you can see Pluto actually swinging around an imaginary point just outside of itself (and as seen above New Horizons confirmed this). There’s a black dot marking the barycenter, you’ll see it in front of Pluto when the moon is at the bottom of the image (the dot is apparently visible through Pluto in the animation). Note that Charon is closest to the viewer when it is at the top of the image. I was momentarily confused by this.

Which means that when I gave you Charon’s distance from Pluto, that was actually not the appropriate number. Its average distance from the barycenter, and thus the true size of its orbit (semimajor axis) is 17,181.0 km. It’s actually moving at a comparatively sedate 210 meters per second, and the orbit is almost perfectly circular. (The difference between the minimum and maximum distance from Pluto (not the barycenter) is a mere 6.31 kilometers.)

Charon’s density is known, 1.7 g/cm3, making it 55% rock to 45% ice (give or take 5 percent). We’re pretty sure the moon is differentiated (i.e., it has a distinct core) and may have once had a subsurface ocean. Here we have two distinct models of what Charon might look like on the inside:

…and…

And…we have a map.

Informal names given to the various canyons included Nostromo, Serenity, Argo, and so on, named after fictional ships including recent ones like from Alien and Firefly. The northern dark area was originally named Mordor. It appears to be formed from gases that escaped Pluto’s atmosphere and blew over to Charon, carried by the solar wind. The temperature here can get as low as 15K during winter, and some tholins will form. When it gets warmer, a balmy 60K, anything that’s still an ice will boil away, leaving the pole dark.

The Other Moons

The other moons, Styx, Nix, Kerberos, and Hydra, all named after creatures and features of the Underworld in Greek mythology, all have nice tidy circular orbits in Pluto’s equatorial plane. So they’re regular moons. All are less than 51 km across. The innermost, Styx, orbits 48,694 km out…considerably further from Charon. But this makes sense. It would have to be far away from the binary object Pluto/Charon or Charon would perturb Styx’s orbit as it swept by Styx on closest approach.

One more “Moon” is Pluto itself. Since it orbits the barycenter at a distance of 2035 kilometers, which puts the barycenter outside of Pluto’s 1188 km radius, Pluto, not Charon, is actually the closest orbiting body of the whole system.

Arrokoth

New Horizons was able to visit one more object beyond Pluto (blue), shown in green.

It’s 486958 Arrokoth (formerly nicknamed Ultima Thule). We didn’t know about it when New Horizons launched, but the pace of discovery of TNOs was so great we figured something would be out there we could visit with some expenditure of propellant, and Arrokoth (discovered in 2014, a bit over a year before the Pluto encounter) was chosen.

As a result, the second best known Kuiper Belt object is none of the ones I’ve mentioned so far, it’s this otherwise insignificant bit of ice and rock.

It appears to be made out of two smaller bodies, planetesimals that never became part of a planet, touching each other. The two small bodies are roughly 21 and 15 km across, for a total of 36 km along the long axis. Arrokoth orbits the Sun in 298 years. So we have our first high resolution picture of a small TNO.

We got enough data to create a geologic map:

It largely consists of a mix, a solid mix of amorphous water ice and rocky material. (It is not, unlike some objects of similar size, simply a clustering of gravel that is barely stuck together.)

It’s getting late. If you want a deeper dive on this, here’s the Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/486958_Arrokoth

Are We Done Yet?

The Kuiper Belt. Surely we are at the outer edges of the Solar System now. Aren’t we?

Nope. And ironically we know a lot about a region we’ve never seen. Next time.

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pgroup2

Yippee it’s Saturn’s Day.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

More great stuff! This week’s science post now added to the sidebar!

cthulhu

I used to be total Astronomy Boi back when I was a kid — went to planetariums, observatories, collected books on Apollo missions, all that stuff.

After college, I let a bunch of it fade.

But with your series, I have been learning that there was a whole lot o’ shakin’ goin’ on in the ensuing years.

Mind you, I was not totally disconnected — I had known that a region of Pluto was named after Cthulhu, for instance — but I had gotten random glimpses of random programs and hadn’t seen the grand plan coming together.

Your astronomy posts have been very worthwhile on providing just such an overview.

And, as I have mentioned previously, you should be writing textbooks. They’d be a lot more informative and enjoyable than what’s currently out there.

para59r

9hrs well spent. The level of detail you are displaying with this post above is amazing. Who’d of thunk! You must be on a mission to Make Astronomy Great Again!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

cthulhu

I’d feel worse about the renaming of Cthulhu Regio if it had been a bit warmer.

para59r

Ken Paxton wants John Cornyn’s senate seat. Yippie Yi Aye! 😁

I guess we’ll get to watch Cornyn try to shed his RINO skin. Should be fun. He’s going to look real funny in MAGA cloths. I wanna see him demand Zelensky be toppled, our Billions be recouped and J6rs be released tomorrow! 😮😏😂😆

kalbokalbs

Yea. Cornyn can’t get primaried soon enough.

After Cornyn gets shitcanned, Cruz is on notice. Cruz is also an expendable POS.

para59r

Cornyn and Cruz not on the same level. We’ll have other RINO’s to deal with before we ever get to Cruz. But must say his lapdog publicity hounding has more than once landed him in hot water.

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kalbokalbs

Points well taken. But, this Texas voter has them both up for cashing in.

On the positive side, Cruz can redeem himself over the next six years. He was just reelected.

para59r

Julie Kelly and Benny Johnson rip into Cornyn

kalbokalbs

BREAKING: Massive grassroots movement coming together to have a primary challenger for RINO Senator John Cornyn of Texas.

This NEEDS TO BE SHARED!

It’s time we start replacing the RINOS. They’re dragging this powerful Movement through the mud.

https://twitter.com/LandOfTheTweets/status/1862718896173982097

cthulhu

Everyone is digesting leftovers.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BUUUUURP!!!

Valerie Curren

We don’t even have a “lion king” image for 100 🙁

Cuppa Covfefe

Watch out all that CH4… 🙂
(you’ll get taxed in Denmark…)…

Valerie Curren

Holiday weekend compounded by food comas 😉

mollypitcher5

lol..spot on! It’s our 2nd food coma with sugar rush tonight

Valerie Curren

We’re enjoying coolers on the porch & storage in my car for extra chillin 😉

cthulhu

Here’s some more “Where Dem heads are post-election 2024” — https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1862233194143023591.html

I think it might be the brown acid. These guys did not roll their saving throws against insanity.

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Tonawanda

Remarkable article, highly recommended. Total cluelessness, and yet the warped reality of so many.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – that is an excellent article.

To me, it shows that Plouffe is in “pathological liar mode” 100% of the time. They have utter comtempt for the Democrat voter. It’s shocking but yeah, not surprising.

Aubergine

Really interesting article. And I mostly agree. But this:

“It sounds like “no other Republican would be able to be convicted of crimes during the campaign and it not hurt them politically.”

That’s true enough, but that fact would only be good for them if they plan on lawfare against all opposing candidates generally going forward.”

NO, that isn’t true!

If it is lawfare BULLSHIT, the electorate isn’t going to buy it anymore! They think we are STUPID, but we are not. We SEE what they are doing now, and Elon Musk gave us the free-speech platform to report it on.

Their fake lawfare crap will NEVER work again. Ever.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – as long as we keep attacking lawfare, and reminding people of it, and fighting it, it won’t work on Vance or anybody else – as long as the candidate doesn’t go simpy and wimpy and back down. It is up to US to never forget about lawfare, and never fall for it again.

cthulhu

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This chick is smart! Not smart enough to be a Trumpster, but smart! 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Makes me wonder if she did vote Trump. Naaaaaah. No way. But I’ll bet she thought about it!

Valerie Curren

Perhaps she’s on her way to a red-pilling 😉

GA/FL

SALLY Q UPDATE!
Heading to the hospital as soon as I get a load of wash in the dryer. Sally Q will probably be discharged today after they get her Rx for pain med and I speak with the hospitalist and palliative care doctor. 

She’s eager to get home and into her own place and her own routine. I’ll send her links to the alternative cancer treatments and copy the comments from PAVACA, Aubergine and others she can decide what she wants to take in the way of medications.

The Lord is Good, His Mercy is everlasting and His Truth endures to all generations. 

What would we do without His Peace that passes all understanding? HE is our Peace – Ephesian 2:14

PS – PAVACA, Aubergine, Gail, Wolfie, anyone with experience with alternative therapies for cancer, covid virus and vaccine detox – please take a look at Sally’s current regimen (only addition will be Acetaminophen + codeine for pain) and help us devise a new alternative cancer regimen. Desperate for help!

Here is Sally’s current regimen, unless they change something, such as heart meds.

SALLY MEDICATIONS LIST 

RX
Eliquis – 5 mg – 1 table AM/PM
Lantus 18 units – AM – before breakfast
Metformin – 750 mg – 1 tablet AM/PM
Metoprolol Succinate ER – 25 mg – 1 tablet – AM/PM 
Rosuvstatin Calcium – 20 mg – 1 tablet PM
Citalopram Hydrobromide – 20 mg – 1 tab a day. Rx 
Metoprolol Tartrate – 1/4 tablet PRN as needed for atrial fibrillation

OTC
Biotin – 1000 mcg – 1 tablet AM
Calcium & D3 combination – 400 mg/500 IU – 1 tablet AM/PM
CoQ10 – 200 mg – 3 capsules AM/PM
Magnesium Glycinate – 200 mg – 1 tablet AM/PM 
N-Acetylcysteine – 1000 mg – 3 capsules AM/PM
Quercetin – 1000 mg – 1 capsule – AM/PM
Omega 3 Fish Oil – 2000 mg – 1 gel cap AM/PM
Selenium – 50 mcg – 1 tablet AM/PM
Vitamin B2 – 50 mg – 1 tablet AM
Vitamin B12 – 1000 mcg – 1 tablet AM every other day
Vitamin D3 – 5000 IU – 1 softgel AM/PM
Vitamin E – d-Alpha Tocopherol – 400 IU AM/PM
Zinc – 50 mg – 1 tablet AM

THANK YOU ALL FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR ♥️ HEARTS – Your prayers are essential and cherished more than anything – have been a source of healing, encouragement, and strength throughout the years – ! 

GA/FL

Aubergine – I did copy your recommendation re cutting back the zinc…and will do so.

cthulhu

As many know, I am prone to rant against acetaminophen. It’s sneaky, and it’s everywhere — in overnight cold medicine, in headache medicine, for menstrual cramps, hangover cures, babies teething, pain relief…..and the distance between an effective dose and a dangerous overdose is frighteningly slim. Worse still, it can react with other substances that stress your liver, like alcohol, to enhance any injury. In the decades that it has been over-the-counter medication, acetaminophen overdose has either been the #1 or #2 reason for acute liver failure in both the US and the UK.

That said, part of the treatment for acetaminophen overdose is NAC — N-acetyl-L-cysteine, which is already part of Sally’s regimen. Further, undertreatment of pain is a real problem in the US. In addition, this is an acetaminophen/codeine combination [if they simply said, “take six Tylenol and call me in the morning”, it would be serious malpractice {if not attempted murder}].

Just be very, very, very careful with acetaminophen. It is typically one of the more dangerous chemicals in someone’s house, and it’s the one not labeled “bleach” or “rat poison.”

I also note that you don’t list a vitamin C supplement for Sally. Along with the story of Canada having scurvy, it seems like it could be an issue. Then, again, if she’s living in Florida and having a glass of orange juice every morning, never mind….. (As a side note, it is close to impossible to overdose on vitamin C because any excess goes straight to the kidneys.)

You have prayers for strength, wisdom, courage, and healing…..and fretting about the other stuff. Thank you for keeping us posted during these times.

Aubergine

I agree with cthulhu with regards to acetaminophen. Just take care. It can be very damaging, and the line is very easy to cross.

I don’t think I remember you mentioning any type of blood or clotting problems for Sally, so nattokinase would be on my list for vaxx detox.

This is the Fenbendazole protocol I have saved:

FENBEN CANCER PROTOCOL

•MORNING
◦ Curcumin (600mg daily)
◦ Zinc (50mg)
◦ Milk thistle, As a food supplement, take 15 – 30 drops, 2-3 times daily in a little fruit juice or water. 7 days a week. They would have this at a health food store.
◦ Serrapeptase (120,00Iu) Can be ordered at Amazon.
◦ Fenbendazole (1000mg of Panacur C is advised to be taken seven days a week. It is recommended that it should be taken with a meal). Panacur C is a common dog de-wormer. It can be ordered at Amazon, or they may have it at a pet store.

•NIGHT
◦ Curcumin (600mg tablet per day are recommended
◦ Berberine (600mg 2-3 times a day)
◦ Quercetin (500mg 1/day)
◦ Turkey Tail
◦ Vitamin E (800mg for 7 days a week)
◦ Fenbendazole (1000mg at night)
◦ Ivermectin 12mg daily 5/7days a week
•Limit sugar and processed food intake
•Drink green tea frequently

With regards to curcumin; this is a hard one for humans to efficiently absorb, so it is important to get a supplement containing the ESSENTIAL OIL, like this one:

https://www.terrynaturallyvitamins.com/curamed-500-mg

The milk thistle listed above is protective of the liver, which might also be of benefit since she is taking acetaminophen.

Blessings. Glad she is going home.

PAVACA

GA/FL
What good news that Sally Q goes home! Wonderful!

My husband took oral chemo weekly (for his prostate cancer) for about 4 years before he passed away. He also took Metformin, Resveratrol, and Paroxetine 10mg daily; and a low dose of Ambien at bedtime. He also followed a regimen of vitamins and supplements that was, like the oral chemo treatment and the other meds, supervised by his oncologist. This regimen included a multivitamin, 5000mcg of Vitamin B12, 3000mg of Vitamin C, 2500mg of Calcium, plus Vitamin D, and Vitamin E, all in divided doses, daily. In addition, my husband ate 4 ounces of yogurt in the AM and in the PM with his meds and vitamins/supplements.

An important thing about Hospice is that treatments that could cure the patient are not allowed, nor are they covered by Medicare/Medicaid. Only items that can assist in pain regulation and comfort are allowed. Hospice can discharge a patient from Hospice care if the patient is taking any treatment that could cure. When my husband was discharged from his final hospital stay into Hospice care 4 months before he passed away, his oncologist slowly reduced the meds, vitamins and supplements that my husband took; but he kept him on the oral chemo. This was done “under the radar”, so to speak.

My husband wanted Hospice at Home, not Hospice in a facility. This is what his PCP (the physician in charge of his care) ordered. There are things that Medicare/Medicaid don’t cover for Hospice at Home care, like extra PT and OT; certain types of Durable Medical Equipment (unless the physician in charge orders it); and extra nursing / CNA care. These things would need to be paid for privately by the patient if that person is in Hospice at Home care.

My husband needed the extra PT and OT that I hired when he was in Hospice at Home care, since he was almost completely bed-bound. I also paid his PCP (the physician in charge of his care) to come to the house a few times to examine him. All other medical exams, vital signs readings, etc., were performed by the Hospice at Home RNs and reported to his PCP.

Stay strong and please take care of yourself!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very good information! Thank you!!!

Valerie Curren

Rosuvstatin Calcium” if this is a statin there can be a lot of concerning issues with that class of drugs. Since Sally Q is also on Metformin, for blood sugar issues presumably, I could imagine that some doc was following the “standard of care” recommendations of also lowering cholesterol & addressing possible heart risks. I’m on Metformin for type II & the doc prescribed a statin for cholesterol (mine is in the normal range, sigh) & Lisinopril (just in case) for the heart. I read the package insert on the statin & told the doc straight up I won’t be taking it & I almost never take the L (which is at the lowest dose it comes in), fwiw. It seems that some of these “protocols” are designed to ensure pharma profits & get some type of “one size fits all” management of a condition.

Bottom line, could Sally Q safely lose the statin, if that’s what it is?

cthulhu

Holy moly!

The latest Russian docking with the ISS had people aboard complaining about an unpleasant smell…..now there’s speculation that it may have been traces of hypergolic fuel….

https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/toxic-smell-at-progress-hatch-was-hypergolic-fuel/

It’s hypergolic bcause it needs no igniter. This stuff is seriously nasty and unhealthy to be around.

Valerie Curren

This is likely a stupid question, but why can’t the shuttle take off like a plane & gain sufficient altitude to get into space & switch to whatever form of locomotion works in space, kind of like in Independence Day w/ the alien craft?

Valerie Curren

Thanks Steve. I guess that thinking of the Harrier flight vehicle that can act like a jet & can also hover sort of like a helicopter it made me think that a dual flight purpose is already possible, though clearly that’s not flying through the air & then into the “vacuum” of space…

Valerie Curren

I don’t know much about the Harrier either but recall how it appeared to perform in the movie “True Lies”…not the best source of info, obviously 🙂

Some helpful comments from the YT site:

https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AIdro_nyKb-LOyqA-wFWPpsPMYVfkY9vs-f85ZiIwwYZekK2DA=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj
@Tank50us11 months ago
Here’s the reasons:

All aircraft, from the smallest Cesna to the C-5 Galaxy have significant design compromises that must be made in order for them to perform their duties. The Harrier is no exception to this.

In order to have the STOVL capacity, it requires a fairly light load compared to something like an F-16 or F-18. It also requires equipment that a normal jet doesn’t need, such as water injectors (to cool the engine) and ‘huffer’ nozzles to adjust the aircraft when in a hover.

The water tank only allows for about 5min of hover time, which is only good for take off or landing.

The Harrier is also a very difficult jet to fly effectively. You have to basically be a helicopter pilot as well as a fixed-wing pilot before you can even get in one. And the practical load you can bring to the fight isn’t that great.

Finally, the Harrier is a nightmare incarnate for maintenance, especially for the engine.

The Harrier is an aircraft built for a singular purpose: to provide support for Marines hitting the beach with as little turn around time as possible in areas where the enemy is not really expecting CAS aircraft. And it excels in that role. But once you have a base where a better aircraft can operate from, the Harriers go to the sidelines.

The Falklands only worked for the Harrier because the Argentinians didn’t have effective air defense on the islands, and their jets were at the extreme limit of their effective range when attacking the British. Had they had more capable jets, the Harriers would’ve lost, and the US would’ve had to get involved in order to bring more effective fighters to the party.

This isn’t a diss on the Harrier btw, it’s very effective at what it’s designed to do. It’s just has limitations other jets don’t have to deal with because of it’s party trick.
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@danielskrivan692110 months ago
A great example is the F-35A vs. F-35B, because these are essentially the same fighter, but with the B having the VTOL ability. The F35A has:
-Lighter weight, at 29k pounds empty vs. 32.5k pounds empty
-Greater internal fuel capacity, at 18k pounds vs 13k pounds
-Greater weapons payload, at 18k pounds vs 15k pounds
-Greater max takeoff weight at 70k pounds vs. 60k pounds. Oh, and at 60k pounds, the B cannot VTOL.
-Greater ferry range at 1200 nmi vs 900 nmi
-Greater combat radius at 670 nmi vs 500 nmi
-Higher g limit at +9.0 vs. +7.0

The F-35A carries an internal gun. The F-35B does not. The F-35B cannot carry 2,000-pound bombs internally, the F-35A can.

pgroup2

My former father-in-law was head of a team that designed/invented a lot of those fuels and delivery systems.

Very hush-hush, back in the early 80s. I remember my ex trying to get through on a phone call to her dad and she got routed to reception. They insisted that nobody with that name worked there. At the time, he was #3 in the pecking order.

cthulhu

I’m sure they would have been happier if it were some other unpleasant smell….

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Valerie Curren

LOL

As the wife of a bass player I find this hilarious!

slowcreekno

Nice good and exciting post. Really enjoyed it!

And the long elliptic orbits of the Sednoids, that seemed to suggest that there could be some object out there made me wonder: since these orbits are ellipses with the Sun at one focus point, would this unknown planet possibly be found at the other, remote, focus point?

Or maybe the Sednoids actually are more similar to comets. Gave me something to think about this 0th Saturday of Advent.

Valerie Curren

made sense ish…need pics for this cheap seats dweller 😉

slowcreekno

Thanks for the further explanation! Makes good sense to me, no problem!

pat frederick

JD Rucker

@JDRucker

There is far bigger significance than most people realize to Tom Homan saying the Trump administration will investigate other nations involved in the border invasion. What he’s unofficially announcing is that the Trump administration is going to try to expose and take down the Globalist Elite Cabal. The powers behind the border invasion are the entities — nations, NGOs, oligarchs, and technocrats — that are actively trying to diminish America’s place in the world so they can usher in their vision of 10 regional powers controlled by a one world government. Taking on Open Borders is taking on the Globalist Elite Cabal. I’m down with that.

kalbokalbs

Exciting times to witness.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent! And I hope that he investigates Kamala’s trips to key countries, where I believe that she was not combating migrants, but facilitating illegal immigration under the guise of doing something about the problem.

It’s not legally treason, but it must be exposed for the evil that it is.

singingsoul1

The people who profited smuggling people need to pay..

Valerie Curren

Amen!

pat frederick

Harrison
November 30, 2024 2:44 am

On the federal side of things – besides the vast sums wasted on illegal aliens and on set piece FeMa camps and foreign escapades, there’s also insane spending at a time when what meager resources remain in the US should instead be marshalled to help those so desperately in need in the Helene damaged areas where temperatures in the teens are arriving and daily highs in the mid 30s.
I know people are still homeless, jobless, and living in tents in Western North Carolina, wondering where all the money is that has been tax/raised, but they need not fret any longer.
The government, as part of the National Science Foundation, is set to spend $77.8 million dollars, and bring in five major universities, to study what causes flash flooding.
Yes you read that correctly, and try to keep your shirt on, but that age old question that’s been plaguing Appalachians for centuries is about to be answered. As far back as I can recall I’ve heard old timers theorize on what could possibly happen to cause rivers in a tight valley to rise quickly, but no one could ever convince us.
You would think the answer would be easy to find, as if it would just fall out of the sky and hit you in the face, but it’s more complex than that, and we need to spend millions to get our conclusion.
Unfortunately for Western North Carolina they won’t be getting any part of that $77.8 million, but in four to five years they’ll finally know what caused the flooding that devastated their communities, and that piece of mind is more valuable than surviving a cold winter in the mountains.

Here is the link to the article:https://t.co/7BljnP8EZz

— The Appalachian Podcast (@GetOnTap) November 29, 2024

kalbokalbs

Big stoopid government at its worst. Tone deaf. Insensitive. Cruel…

PAVACA

kalbo
Stupid government, yes.
Insensitive, yes.
Cruel, yes.
But not tone deaf.
Big government (and ** other entities **, like, say, BlackRock) wants the land and the resources under it in that entire area of North Carolina that was devastated by Hurricane Helene.
The sufferings and the deaths of the people in these devastated areas are “collateral damage” to big government. This includes NC Gov. Roy Cooper.

kalbokalbs

yup. Blackrock and the like are certainly tuned in to profits.

singingsoul1

Not the government it is the people running it that are dangerously stupid

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Answer: “cLieMate CHanGe!!!”

There. We’re done. Now give the money to the victims.

pgroup2

Hey Elon! Got something for ya.

jgreen42

As a kid I spent countless nights outside laying on the trampoline & staring up at the rural sky – and now it amazes me that people like Steve actually know what’s going on out there… in our small corner of space – so awesome!

The 6GB of Data over 6 months reminds me of the dialup days…

Thanks Steve

Cuppa Covfefe

A-J acoustic coupler at 110Baud or less 🙂
Sometimes it seemed that all the bits were stop bits…

kalbokalbs

we know a lot about a region we’ve never seen.

Huh? Wut? Slow Guy looking forward to this read.

duchess01

EACH DAY WE TAKE UP THE OFFENSIVE WEAPON OF THE WORD OF GOD – THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT – ONE VERSE OPENS THE DOOR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE CHAPTER MESSAGE

Verse of the Day for Saturday, November 30, 2024

“Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:” 

Isaiah 55:6 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

WE ARE FIGHTING A SPIRITUAL WAR OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ABUSED, MISSING, AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

MAPA = MAKE AMERICA PRAY AGAIN


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duchess01

SILENCE OF THE NIGHT

After a harrowing day we feel drained
No peace no quiet our senses are strained
Our muscles are taut unable to ease
Dear Lord can You help us relax please

Sometimes a quick prayer will give us pause
The Spirit we pray will take up our cause
No higher power can ever relieve
The disquiet of the mind we aggrieve

When we pray we release anger and pain
Our mind and body are free once again
We have left the natural realm somehow
Into the spiritual realm right now

When we have achieved the spiritual plane
Nothing in the natural is ever the same
Angels have lifted us into the clouds
High above the screams of the demon crowds

When we realize from where troubles come
We can extract ourselves from demonic scum
That vexing voice that plagues our spirit
Cannot take hold nor will we fear it

Manipulations of the mind are moot
When we give the enemy the boot
In the name of Jesus he will flee
No longer will he bother you or me

In the Silence of the Night we’re in control
The Sword of the Spirit will surely console
Greater is He who lives inside of you
Than that loser to which you bid adieu

D01: 09/02/2023



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duchess01

Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing 
#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.
#faith #god #psalms

prayeveryday777

https://rumble.com/v57jvfg-sleep-well-with-psalms.-psalm-91-psalm-121-psalm-3-psalm-4-psalm-139.faith-.html

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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️

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pgroup2

Now that there is seriously fluent English!

Cuppa Covfefe

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Valerie Curren

Boom!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is quite awesome. Democrat side-governance through the financial industry is getting exactly what it deserves!

pgroup2

Desperate lawyer ad:

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[and I hate WordPiss for not showing the pic]

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Valerie Curren

Maybe running it through Gab will let it show here 🙂

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para59r

Must be something about the mountain view.

Valerie Curren

Huh even with a page reload the original still doesn’t show for me but the Gab one I shared does…hmmm

pgroup2

Hmmmm …

Valerie Curren

yeah I get “comment image” with the original one…

pgroup2

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PAVACA

SteveInCo
Wow, thank you! The image of the “penitentes” on Pluto is amazing. So wonderful that Mr. Tombaugh (in spirit) could “visit” Pluto and that there are great photos from New Horizons.

So, is there any chance that California can one day become a sort of “Arrokoth / Ultima Thule in reverse” — and split itself off the Earth into a planet of its own?

kalbokalbs

Interesting read…

BREAKING: Did Russia and China Sever NATO Cables to Block an Attack and Delay World War 3?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/breaking-did-russia-china-sever-nato-cables-block/

Edit. Brilliant play by Russia and Chinee.

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mollypitcher5

So far the parallel of Putin/Russia being the ruthless ultimate warlord is comparable to Trump/MAGA movement supporters being xenophobic violent monsters. A fake construct from the liars.

pgroup2

Precisely.

RAC

Winning formula  😀 

“This is not the first time a Chinese vessel has been linked to damage to undersea cables in the Baltic.
In October 2023, two submarine cables as well as an undersea gas pipeline linking Finland and Sweden were severed.
The subsequent investigation found that the damage had been caused by an anchor belonging to the Newnew Polar Bear, a Chinese-flagged container ship.
In that case, the Newnew Polar Bear was able to leave the area before being held for questioning, docking in Russia before it eventually returned to China.”

 https://thediplomat.com/2024/11/chinese-vessel-suspected-of-damaging-european-submarine-cables/

RedLegLeader68

“…docking in Russia before it eventually returned to China” [allowing it’s Russian Crew to disembark, returning the ship back to the Chinese]

Valerie Curren

!!!

RAC

Nato – “You did that on purpose”

Chinese skipper – “Oh come on man it was just a fluke.”

pat frederick

h/t Filly

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RedLegLeader68

I can’t do that without the X-link

RAC

Looked for it but couldn’t find it.

https://nitter.poast.org/DonaldJTrumpJr

Valerie Curren

It would be great if the timelines were chronological or searchable by date

Valerie Curren

You could share that image on X & elsewhere, I believe 🙂

duchess01

IN SPITE OF WHAT NAYSAYERS THINK, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE..

The Globalists Never Expected a Trump Presidency…Let Alone A Second Win! MAGA!
The Marshall Report  November 30, 2024 

https://diannemarshallreport.com/2024/11/30/the-globalists-never-expected-a-trump-presidencylet-alone-a-second-win-maga/

pat frederick

Clarion
November 30, 2024 1:57 pm

I hope Jack Smith finds a good lawyer. Releasing a report after you dismissed a case makes you look like a bitter loser and a highly partisan hack.

Go after Mueller first. He had no basis for his investigation. Yet, he spent $40 million and let the country tear itself apart for two years. This is not merely an opinion. There is an airtight case that the Mueller inquiry was invalid from the outset. More on this soon. https://t.co/EjAyxaZ6Km

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) November 29, 2024

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mollypitcher5

lol…….call AAA!

pgroup2

Molly uses the Gordian Knot solution – a sword!  😂 

mollypitcher5

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Linda

And after all that (probably a couple of hours of work), his wheel could be out of balance and still need to be taken to a tire dealer to balance. I’m not sure he saved much money considering all the time he put in.

Linda

Plus, he needed something to inflate his new tire with, which he never showed.

RAC

I was waiting for him to get his industrial safety sandals trapped in it.

Valerie Curren

I was obsessing on that footware too 😉

kalbokalbs

Standard issue in the Philippines.   :wpds_unamused: 

GA/FL

SALLY Q UPDATE!
Sally may not be going home today – she has developed a rattly wet cough and is sneezing mucus. She isn’t feeling as well as she did last night – just asked for one of those heated blankets. Her Dad wants the hospitalist to listen to her chest and she may need medication. Hope she has not been exposed to any Covid variants.

Thanks for all prayers!

pat frederick

sending up prayers GA!

PAVACA

Prayers, Good Energy and Deep Healing for Sally Q!

Valerie Curren

Amen

Linda

Wow, Sally Q just can’t seem to catch a break. So sorry to hear that. Hopefully it’s nothing serious and she’ll be able to come home soon. Continuing prayers for her and for you as well.

Valerie Curren

Amen

Aubergine

Dang.

Prayers up.

Valerie Curren

What an endlessly fascinating solar system. Thank you for the ongoing tour de force! Boy is Arrokoth intriguing!

duchess01

EVENING PRAYERS

A Powerful Evening Prayer for Peace and Serenity
Dear Lord,

As the day gradually transitions into the comforting embrace of night, I humbly come before you, seeking the precious gifts of peace and serenity. Please, dear God, enfold me in your tranquil presence, and help me find respite from the storms that may be raging within my heart and mind. Grant me the serenity to gracefully accept the things I cannot change and the courage to change what I can. May your divine light shine upon me as I seek rest and tranquility, knowing that your unwavering love and guidance are my constant companions.

Amen.

A Powerful Evening Prayer for Strength and Guidance
Dear God,

In these twilight hours, I turn to you, my unwavering source of strength and guidance. As I reflect upon the day’s challenges and triumphs, I seek your divine intervention. Grant me the courage to face the uncertainties of tomorrow and the wisdom to make sound decisions along the way. I earnestly request that your radiant light illuminate my path through the darkness, and may your steadfast strength be my refuge in moments of doubt and weakness. Lord, help me navigate life’s complexities with unwavering faith in your unwavering presence.

Amen.

A Powerful Evening Prayer for Gratitude and Thankfulness
Heavenly Father,

As I pause to contemplate the events of this day, my heart brims with profound gratitude for the countless blessings you have graciously bestowed upon me. I thank you, dear Lord, for the boundless love of my family and friends, for the opportunities that have enriched my journey, and for the valuable lessons I’ve gleaned from life’s experiences. As I lay down to rest, may my heart overflow with thankfulness, recognizing that your grace continually sustains me and that even in the challenges, your love remains unwavering.

Amen.

https://strengthinprayer.com/powerful-evening-prayers/

Aubergine

NOW we’re getting somewhere! Kash Patel will head the FBI!

Aubergine

Yeah!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Big news! GREAT news! VSG move for sure.

TradeBait2

I could not be more pleased. Surprised, but pleased.

May the blood letting begin.

Aubergine

Amen. We need a purge.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Notice how “art of the deal” this actually is.

kalbokalbs

Kash gonna be FIB.

I am proud to announce that Kashyap “Kash” Patel will serve as the next Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Kash is a brilliant lawyer, investigator, and “America First” fighter who has spent his career exposing corruption, defending Justice, and protecting the American People. He played a pivotal role in uncovering the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, standing as an advocate for truth, accountability, and the Constitution. Kash did an incredible job during my First Term, where he served as Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense, Deputy Director of National Intelligence, and Senior Director for Counterterrorism at the National Security Council. Kash has also tried over 60 jury trials. This FBI will end the growing crime epidemic in America, dismantle the migrant criminal gangs, and stop the evil scourge of human and drug trafficking across the Border. Kash will work under our great Attorney General, Pam Bondi, to bring back Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity to the FBI.

https://twitter.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1863007459788628379

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wonderful news!!!

kalbokalbs

  :wpds_lol: 

JUST IN: President Trump Names Jared Kushner’s Father as Ambassador to France
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/just-president-trump-names-jared-kushners-father-as/

kalbokalbs

Horse paste works.

Ivermectin is curing my dear friends husband of cancer. The detection in his lymph nodes is now undetected and his liver now has a trace detection.

He’s using apple flavored paste.

https://twitter.com/ProudArmymom66/status/1862694856998732255

Linda

Yep. It really works. Isn’t it amazing how many things good old horse paste cures?   :wpds_lol: 

TradeBait2

Yup, got the pills from the Indian suppliers and Wellness Company, yet, they work the same as the paste.

kalbokalbs

The left thought they won. I can be appointed to special counsel without Senate approval.

Check Mate!

https://twitter.com/realgaetzag/status/1862667235166154888

scott467
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – great move. VSG.

RAC
Linda

“The truth is, the United States has never stood with the people of Ukraine. That is simply a jingle, an ad campaign broadcast to those who have never been there, designed just to sell taxpayers on the appeal of prolonging war for profit. We have cost Ukraine her territory. We have cost Ukraine her children. The war hawks and the bankers are no friends to Ukraine.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It needed to be said, for the woke seats in the back.

cthulhu

An interesting article that compares present-day Woke with the Albigensian heretics, suggesting that similar methods may be needed to suppress them —

https://www.postliberalorder.com/p/wokism-is-the-new-face-of-an-old

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent article. This provides a very functional alternate theory of what we’re up against.

Note that smarter elements on the woke side, or more likely behind it, tried to make the “pizzagate” and “Q” movements divorce themselves from reality, and become similar purgeable movements useful in redefining normal away from undesired directions. Thus, the elements behind these things “wanted us divided” by pushing purgeable movements on both sides.

His observed tactics on naming and name denial are excellent ideas.

cthulhu

Since Steve is counting…..

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