Dear MAGA: 20250309 Open Topic

This Rejoice & Praise God Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Elect Angels

When God created the angels, they were all good just like the rest of creation (Genesis 1:31). Angels were holy and faithfully devoted to the Lord, but this changed when Satan rebelled against God (Isaiah 14:12–15; Ezekiel 28:16). Many angels followed Satan’s rebellion and thus became “fallen” angels, or demons (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 12:3–4). In contrast, the angels who remained faithful to the Lord are known as “holy angels” or “elect angels” (Mark 8:38; 1 Timothy 5:21).

The Greek word for “elect” found in 1 Timothy 5:21 refers to being chosen or picked. This would indicate that God chose some angels not to fall with Satan. The same word in the verse, eklekton, is used elsewhere for Christians who are elected and chosen by God in salvation (Romans 8:33; Titus 1:1). The word suggests that the elect angels, like elect people, were chosen by God and cannot lose their elect position. None of the elect angels will rebel against God or lose their chosen status, just as Christians cannot lose their salvation as God’s elect children (John 10:28; Romans 8:38–39). Secure in their standing before the Lord, elect angels cannot sin or go against the commands of God but will remain faithful to the Lord forever.

Of course, the fact that the holy angels are “elect” does not imply they are “saved” in the same way that Christians are. Both angels and Christians are chosen and elected by the Lord, but only humans can experience the new birth, forgiveness, and other aspects of salvation. The elect angels cannot experience forgiveness, since they have never sinned. Furthermore, Jesus died for humanity, not for angels. He took on human flesh and came to save mankind from their sins; His sacrifice was not to save the fallen angels (Hebrews 2:16). Angels “long to look into these things,” and are fascinated by the fact that the Son of God laid down His life to save humans (1 Peter 1:12). In this way, the election of angels is different from the election of Christians.

In addition to calling them “chosen” or “elect” angels, Scripture also designates them as good and “holy angels” (Mark 8:38). Worshipping and serving God are the main purposes of the elect angels (Revelation 7:11). Like Christians, elect angels are servants of God who seek to bring Him glory (Revelation 22:9). God uses the elect angels to carry out His will and to provide ministry to believers (Hebrews 1:14). Throughout history, elect angels have been a part of God’s plan in delivering messages (Daniel 8:16; 9:21; Luke 1:19, 26), carrying out judgment (Genesis 19:13; Psalm 78:49; Revelation 14:17–20), and providing encouragement to God’s people (Acts 27:23).

The elect angels have the special purpose of serving God and doing as He commands. The elect angels minister to believers today, and they will also play a major part in the events of the end times. The power and position of the elect angels are awe-inspiring, but the Bible teaches that Jesus’ followers are more blessed than even they, since believers “have been made complete in Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority” (Colossians 2:10, BSB).
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Gudthots

Thank you bakocarl!

Glory to God in the highest,

and on earth peace to people of good will.

We praise you, we bless you, we adore you,

we glorify you,

We give you thanks for your great glory.

Lord God, heavenly King.

O God, almighty Father.

Lord Jesus Christ, Only Begotten Son,

Lord God, Lamb of God, Son of the Father,

you take away the sins of the world,

have mercy on us;

you take away the sins of the world,

receive our prayer;

you are seated at the right hand of the Father,

have mercy on us.

For you alone are the Holy One,

you alone are the Lord,

you alone are the Most High, Jesus Christ,

with the Holy Spirit,

in the glory of God the Father. Amen.

Wolf Moon

Amen.

4GodandCountry

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Wolf Moon

Yup. Troublemakers.

4GodandCountry

The U.S. is still sharing the targeting information with the U.K and NATO allies.

However, if the NATO/EU/UK/CIA use the targeting system it will be very obvious, and attacks against ‘Russian territory’ be visible. That’s all the proof needed.

If any long-range missile/drone operations continue, then someone is violating the Trump order.

scott467

No different than every other agency and department of gov’t that has publicly announced they are ‘digging in’ and engaging in ‘resistance’.

It’s open rebellion, this time in the military or the hilariously corrupt See-Eye-A.

4GodandCountry

Yeah, but now the public can see it. 👀

The media?

Ain’t nobody relevant listening to ‘em anymore. 🤷‍♂️

GA/FL

Most likely the Space Force and Elon Musk @ Space X have already identified the source of the drone attacks – they have it all – as we in MAGA always say.

Aubergine

I read someone the other day refer to NATO as “a hammer looking for a nail.” I thought that was the perfect description.

NATO should be dead for America. There is no “Great Satan” USSR to ally against anymore. We should pull out, before we are pulled in, to WWIII.

kalbokalbs

…NATO as “a hammer looking for a nail.”

NATO, EU, UK and US IC, looking for a nail, for America to hammer.

Past time to leave NATO, five Eyes…

Wolf Moon

Stone hammer looking for a square nail!

Gail Combs

NATO is the New Nazi World Order’s military.

Aubergine

Seriously.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. I’m certain it’s the Brits. For one, with them, WWII is still going on, despite being over for 80 years; two, they’re still not even over the Crimean war, and that ended long, long ago… seems they think they still rule the waves….

The Brits have gone from ruling the waves to waiving the rules…. 😡 😡 😡 😡

GA/FL

Why not the Germans?

Or a CIA dark op?

Cuppa Covfefe

The Germans are flaming incompetents, and most of the military equipment is either obsolete, or damaged… which explains the mad rush to burn through 800 Billion or so Euros to restore it to a functioning state.

Unfortunately TPTB don’t realize that it also takes TIME, and that’s probably ten years or so, and that’s with the draft re-instated for both males AND females (!!!) as if our birth rate wasn’t low enough…..

Klownsinaction could be, but that would be rogue. And rooted out before long. Bolt-On, et. al.

England is an unspeakable mess right now, and probably all of my ancestors are rolling in their collective graves…

WSB

“Well, somebody did the droning, Bob.”

scott467

“It looks like it’s time to increase the Big Ugly impact hammer!”

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Do it! Do it! Do it!

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GA/FL

TIME TO WITHDRAW THE US FROM NATO – AND TO CENSURE THOSE RESPONSIBLE – AND TO REMOVE ALL OUR WARFIGHTERS/AGENCIES/EQUIPMENT/CAPABILITIES FROM ALL NATO COUNTRIES – THAT INCLUDES CIA COVERT AGENTS AND CAPABILITIES.

NATO HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE AGAINST PEACE AND AGAINST US CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES AND INTERESTS WITH ITS UNILATERAL DECISION TO PROMOTE AND CONTINUE THE UKRAINE WAR, AS WELL AS COMMUNISM AND ISLAM WITHIN ITS NATIONS’ BORDERS.

THE UN ALSO PROVED TO BE AGAINST US CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES AND INTERESTS – WITH ITS GLORIFICATION OF ISLAM, COMMUNISM, AND WAR.

ISLAM IS AN IDEOLOGY WITH ITS OWN SYSTEM OF LAW THAT INCORPORATES THE DENIAL OF HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS, AGGRESSION AND CONQUEST, AND REJECTS OTHER LAWS AND IS THUS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

ESSENTIALLY – a US withdrawal from NATO and the UN would follow the same principles as our withdrawal from the WHO and TPP, etc. – they violate our Constitutional Principles and National Interests, as well as cause harm to our citizens.

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TradeBait2

👍

Gail Combs

Understand the current flavors of Radical Islam were manufactured by the British Empire more than a century ago as a method to take over the OIL RICH Middle East. (Based on some of my current reading)

The British Empire’s lapdogs in the USA & Israel continue to foment and fund various Islamic Terrorist groups. Afterall they are so very, very useful in getting Americans to fight the British Empire’s battles for them.

The British Empire has in the mean time morphed into the International Syndicate.

Colonel Towner came up with that term for what I call the Cabal. It is loyal to NO COUNTRY or RELIGION. It’s goal is complete world domination and it will use Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Fascism, Communism, Blacks vs Whites or any other groups to divide them in order to cause strife, murders, terrorism and wars.

GA/FL

Wondering…

-if the drones could have been or were programmed by Ukraine BEFORE the US cut off Ukraine’s ability to use our guidance systems?
-if the CIA could have or actually did send the drones to attack Russia?
-if France or other NATO countries, such as Finland did the dirty work?
-if NATO itself did the job?

Also wondering what President Trump will do and say about this?

We can be pretty sure PDJT, the US Space Force, as well as Space X have identified the perpetrators of the attacks.

GA/FL

VSGPDJT will be on Maria Bartiromo’s Sunday Futures show – but it’s likely pre-recorded, so there will likely be no mention of the drone attack on Russia.

Would President Trump have approved the attack?

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Gail Combs

NO!!!

That is NATO trying to push the USA & Russia into a war. Remember the cabal HATES RUSSIA & the USA.

kalbokalbs

Trump won’t take the bait. Nor will Putin.

Gail Combs

They are BOTH way to smart.

As a result of this schiff I would LOVE to see the USA dissolve the ties to NATO and the UN and sign a treaty with RUSSIA.

Valerie Curren

That would be epic AND Trumpian!!!

Gail Combs

  :wpds_cool:   :wpds_wink: 

GA/FL

Good points… so you don’t think our rogue CIA would do it?

Gail Combs

NATO & the CIA are tied at the hip.

I will have more on that in a couple of weeks.

Gail Combs

The CIA actually works for the Bank of London/International Syndicate and NOT the USA.

Gudthots

Seems reasonable.

https://nitter.poast.org/RWMaloneMD/status/1897647456940380393
Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
Mar 6

The Moderna royalties being paid to NIAID for their work developing the toxic spike-based mRNA COVID “vaccines” should be used to treat and compensate the vaccine injured. This can be done now, immediately, and can bypass the “indemnity shield” that has been constructed to protect Moderna and Pfizer. No congressional appropriation necessary. @DrJBhattacharya @SecKennedy @RonJohnsonWI @HawleyMO @RepThomasMassie @RepMTG

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Gudthots

Reply to above post:

Debbie Nease
@DebbieN97142
Mar 6
Replying to @RWMaloneMD @kassiekitson

Yes. Type 1 Diabetes after V. I would love to be on a health committee. My son tested 100% NEGATIVE for glucose & ketones minutes PRIOR to TDAP & Menactra. That night stomachache and next day asking us what a heart attack feels like. 14 days later throwing up, total of 43 days from shots 614 blood sugar (so he would have tested positive for glucose and been a 309 blood sugar that day, but was 100% NEGATIVE minutes PRIOR).

After almost 4 years with NVICP special master denied our evidence and basically threatened any lawyer in the future to NOT bring a Type 1 diabetes case again.

Hmmm wonder why? Don’t want to know? If they were so sure they would support testing done PRIOR. Because I am not alone. Why the rise in cases? Predictions for 2030 are off the charts. We need testing like my son had PRIOR.

Urine tests & bloodwork need to be offered to families PRIOR to shots when they are handed their VIS form. Doesn’t it seem odd that this commonsense safety measure has been ignored? Do they not want to know that these vaccines are causing Type 1 in children and adults? Urine tests & bloodwork PRIOR.

We need a senator to author Brayden’s Bill. @SenRonJohnson @JDVanceNewsX @delbigtree

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Gudthots
barkerjim

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Unsupported featureNitter doesn’t support this feature yet, but it might in the future. You can check for an issue and open one if needed here: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues

Gail Combs

Try https://xcancel.com/
instead of nitter.

Valerie Curren

using x.com can bring up the video, I believe…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Here; I discuss the stupidity of DST (daylight saving time), with a lot of background.

https://www.theqtree.com/2023/11/04/2023%c2%b711%c2%b704-joe-biden-didnt-win-daily-thread/

More (as a side effect) on the subject of determining the time with a telescope here:

https://www.theqtree.com/2024/12/14/2024%C2%B712%C2%B714-joe-biden-didnt-win-and-neither-did-kamala-harris-daily-thread/

Gudthots

Thanks for the homework!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The first one is short. The second one dives in but it’s really mostly about celestial coordinates. Not at all unrelated, believe it or not.

Gudthots

First one was good. Helpful. Not sure how much will still at the moment as I’m tired and not feeling that great. I’m making a note to look up both the use of “watches” and sundials for keeping time.

Watches as in “it was the third hour” kind of watches.

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cthulhu
Gudthots

good info!

Valerie Curren

Hope you feel better soon…Blessings!

Gudthots

I do feel better. Needed more sleep. Someone in the house has had a head cold for a week. I’ve done my usual immune support stuff and have had little to no symptoms myself, but lack of sleep was tipping things in the wrong direction. If I could just simply stay off the computer after sunset it would be a lot healthier for me. But y’all are way too fun to skip reading for too long. LOL

Valerie Curren

I understand that computer lure. Until I fully kick the “flu” or whatever is messing with me I just sleep when I can & it’s usually several times a day &/or night. But our online gang is really a joy to interface with & it’s so refreshing that it’s also hard to stay away for too long 😉

My hubby has been taking fake zicam &/or airborne a few times a day & has kept this annoying illness at bay, PTL!

Valerie Curren

I hold on to your common sense view that standard time puts the sun at noon overhead, more or less, so that should be the time we stick with ultimately…

Wolf Moon

I’m for natural time. No more “fake time” for me!

REAL TIME. Not FAKE TIME.

Valerie Curren

Real over Fake in All Things at All Times! Including WGTT’s 😉 😉

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Definitely including WGTTs.

Admittedly fake WGTTs can be excellent eye candy but up close and personal…well, I’ve said too much to someone with the opposite plumbing that I am NOT up close and personal with.

Valerie Curren

LOL not a prob.

I can’t remember if I told you this story in the family lore before or not…

Once when Josiah was pretty young, mid to late grade school, I was snuggling him on the couch for some reason & he decided to cop a feel of one of my breasts & I was Pissed!

Hubby came home from work & got an earful about it & had words, lots of words, with the lad.

Fast forward a bit & Michael had taken all four kids for a couple hours, dropping our oldest, Nathaniel, at basketball practice at a local school then taking the other 3 kids Christmas shopping at a nearby department store.

Josiah used to love to slip away when we were out & he’d refuse to answer when we called his name…sigh. So Michael’s waking through the store & realizes J is missing, again, so starts looking around. Suddenly he spies him up on a platform with a female mannequin & as J is cuffing the boob of the mannequin he calls out “Fake boobs are OK right Dad?”

Of course at that very moment another mom from our kids’ Christian School is in the vicinity & our family is Dying in case she overheard Josiah basically being a public perv LOL We never had the nerve to ask her if she caught what was happening at the time…

Wolf Moon

Kids will be kids! LOL!!!

Valerie Curren

No doubt & at the most awkward times & ways too!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They can be such boobs at times.

I was visiting a friend with a 2 year old son and almost got to see what I shouldn’t have seen when he decided he wanted to be fed right now and pulled up her shirt. She caught it in time.

Valerie Curren

Nursing kids that old can get pretty awkward  🙄 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

This just happens to be one of those things where you have to decide where to draw the line between natural and fake. PURELY natural time is to use a sundial (or wear a watch that mimics it). No correction to mean solar time, no timezones. Even if you’re willing to do timezones and therefore accept being up to half an hour off “natural (here meaing mean solar time)”…even on standard time you can be off by more than half an hour if your time zone’s boundary has been shifted for convenience (to go around a state or metropolitan boundary for instance). Go far enough east in your timezone and it’s entirely possible that for you but not for most people in your timezone, you’d be closer to natural time on DST. Or alternatively, that you are effectively on DST even though you’re on standard time.

Nevertheless, going to standard time would have more people closer to Mean Solar Time than permanent DST would.

Wolf Moon

Nevertheless, going to standard time would have more people closer to Mean Solar Time than permanent DST would.

OK! That’s where I’m at, then!

Valerie Curren

Ditto!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There was a time, there, when Indiana couldn’t seem to make up its mind which time zone it wanted to be in, and I think for a while they didn’t do DST. (If I had to guess that was probably while they were doing Eastern Time.)

Now there’s this boundary that loops around the Chicago area and also around the southern tip of the state. You can cross a line going SOUTH and end up in a different time zone.

If you choose your route with care you can flip back and forth between DST and standard time multiple times, crossing in and out of the Navajo Rez (which does DST) from Arizona (which doesnt), and also crossing from Navajoland into and out of the Hopi Reservation (which like “white” Arizona does not do DST. Each of these has exclaves within the other and the Hopi reservation is completely surrounded by the Navajo reservation. There’s one place where you can walk across the street in the middle of a town and have to change your watch.

I can’t get YT to show me part 1.

4GodandCountry

B…b…bu…but….”MUH MONEY”!!

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scott467

If I like it to stay dark later in the morning, and to stay light later in the evening, which side does that put me on?

4GodandCountry

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scott467

👍😂

4GodandCountry

I decided to wait and see what Steve says. 😜

pgroup2

The side of the angels.

scott467

That’s the best side to be on 👍

Gail Combs

Steve, a quick question.

If a gasoline engine car, has a dead –as in bad- battery and the car is jump started, will the car continue to run? Or is a good battery essential to an IC battery running in order to provide spark to the engine?

GA/FL

In my experience, no, you better get it to a shop or auto parts place before turning off the engine.

cthulhu

My battery, despite being completely discharged by thieves in January, charged-up again and has been working since. Then, again, it was brand-new when stolen.

OTOH, if an old battery has gone bad and needs a jump, that won’t turn it into a good battery. It will likely run until you turn it off, but will not restart.

Gail Combs

Thanks guys.

It would not start with a jump so the guy’s dad will be picking it up with a roll-back.

cthulhu

It’d be easier to use another vehicle to take the old battery in, have it tested, and (if necessary, which is likely) purchase a new battery.

Gail Combs

NOT when it is NOT my vehicle and I am just about out of gas. We told the guy to call a friend or family to deal with the problem when we could not jump start his vehicle.

Sorry, we do know him and he is an alcoholic. Therefore I want him OFF my property since alcohol, animals & farm equipment do not mix. We already booted once. This is #2 when he showed up out of the blue.

Valerie Curren

Is this latest problematic person gone yet? Yikes…

Wolf Moon

TL;DR – once the battery can’t hold charge (meaning it’s bad), you’re screwed.

If you jump-start a vehicle and it stops running after you remove the jumper cables, the battery is either bad or too weak. A weak battery can be stabilized by charging for some period of time. Sometimes you can charge a bad battery for a while, and the bad battery will hold long enough to get somewhere, if it’s only marginally bad, but best to follow them to the shop. Similarly, a good battery or a starter unit can keep a completely bad battery going while the engine is running, to get it to a repair shop.

A good battery shop can tell you roughly how long your car battery will stay functional. This is one reason to use a battery shop instead of just any repair shop.

Valerie Curren

I remember having to add some water to the battery to get it going… 😉 😉

Wolf Moon

Yup. Distilled water is a great thing for old school batteries.

Barb Meier

SteveInCO, I was invited to apply for a job as a sensor operator in Diego Garcia and am exploring info to see if someone like me might be useful. Are you familiar with GEODSS?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I didn’t know what that was until I looked it up just now. (As a bit of trivia I did not realize that Vanguard was still in orbit!)

I do know that Diego Garcia is almost as far away as you can get from here without wet feet. (I am reminded of the time when a project I had was facing cuts and the lady in the cubicle across from me asked herself aloud, “Alice Springs. Where’s that?” and unfortunately I couldn’t stifle the laugh, so I had to tell her it was dead center in Australia. She moved on down the list.)

Alas I don’t know enough about your background to know. I’ve been near such jobs before but never actually did them.

Barb Meier

Thanks for your thoughts, Steve! I had to look them up too. I love your Alice Springs story. Often, I look at a job description and know instantly. This one is intriguing and I just keep thinking about it.

The pay is not the greatest and the sacrifices would be too much for many. Ah but the opportunity to learn and make a positive difference supporting our warfighters and looking at the stars every day. I’m surprised and humbled to be on their wider search list and be invited to apply.

I ran the job requirements and my resume through Grok. It gave me a lot to think about. oh stop, Barb. I’m 70 and will get cataract surgery in a month or so.

I would be happy to help connect a good candidate for this one and I’m not wanting any finder’s bucks. The lady mentions she’d be interested if I know a friend who might want to apply. I’ll try to connect with a guy at Mitre to see if someone comes to his mind.

I’ve even thought about whether the current job requirements divide up the skills the best way, wondered if the L3Harris equipment & software is nearing end of life, how long the contract runs, what parts of the role could be handled faster/better with AI, and how often a person gets to come home.

My resume is at my website (https://www.barbmeier.com/pdf/Meier-Resume.pdf), but it’s way too much even for me to ponder. If someone comes to your mind, I’d be happy to give you the recruiter’s email so they can reach out. Grok mentioned them first and they’re a prime.

Sensor Operator job requirements
Position Description 
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You will help operate and maintain three (3), one-meter telescopes equipped with highly sensitive digital cameras. You’ll respond to Government tasking to obtain metric observations of specific objects daily and help maintain the sensors, support equipment, and the facility that houses it at Detachment 2, Naval Support Facility in Diego Garcia, British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT). Visit the following link for more information about how Serco supports our Veterans https://www.serco.com/na/careers/veterans-at-serco.
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Meet your Recruiter!
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Qualifications
To be successful in this role, you will have: 
 

  • An active DoD Secret clearance
  • U.S. Citizenship with valid U.S. passport
  • High School Diploma or GED
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  • The ability to work shift work due to the 24/7 work environment.
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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I gave it one moment’s worth of thought…but then I realized as I read the description. I am woefully overqualified with respect to education. Still it’s at least in tangentially related areas. (Space ops background would be useful.)

Barb Meier

Oh yes, you are overqualified educationally. You spoil us with your time and engaging science posts. Thank you!!

A few SIGINT guys sat in my cube row but it is a different world than editors. They were very nice and we exchanged howdies. 🤓 I’ll explore space ops.

https://www.magaero.com/what-is-sigint-and-how-its-maximizing-military-capabilities/

WSB

So, how about a Half Hour Club?

Valerie Curren

That would be a major pain LOL

TheseTruths

REPORT: House Staffer Gained Entry into One of the House Office Buildings that Leads to U.S. Capitol with a Gun Before Trump’s Speech to the Nation

Tarik Johnson resigned from the US Capitol Police after more than 23 years of service after the events at our Capitol on January 6th.

He previously appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight on FOX News to tell portions of his story.

Federal intel and law enforcement agencies knew about the warnings of a massive disturbance at the Capitol on Jan. 6, days before the event. But Speaker Pelosi refused to call in the National Guard days before the protests as President Trump requested. It was Pelosi who left the US Capitol vulnerable and put tens of thousands of Trump supporters in danger by her actions. Frontline officers on duty that day did not know anything about the threats. They were left in the dark.

Tarik Johnson later came forward and revealed that Pelosi and others did not notify Capitol Police of the threats they knew about days in advance…

  :wpds_arrow: According to Tarik Johnson:

Emergency Update!!!!!!!

I was going to wait until Monday for this but things are developing rapidly so I must inform the public now in a series of tweets. Here is what’s happening:

On Tuesday (SOTU) a House staffer gained entry into one of the House office buildings that leads to the U.S. Capitol. That staffer was in possession of a gun. He was eventually caught and arrested. What makes the problem even worse I’m told the staffer asked (after his arrest) what the problem was with this as no one said anything to him about him bringing the gun in the previous day.

This is the fourth instance of a gun being brought in a building policed by USCP Chief J Thomas Manger since Trump was elected President. What is frightening to me is that both dates that President Trump attended events at the Capitol it was on a date where a gun made it in one of the buildings and I’m told one of the guns made it in a room where President Trump was actually in and only feet away from him.

This can’t happen!!! I’m still getting more information on this and I’ll have another tweet tomorrow.

Tarik K Johnson: 

Former Lieutenant U.S. Capitol Police

This warning followed a previous report Tarik Johnson posted on X on Friday.

Tarik Johnson: Breaking News

Message to USCP Chief J Thomas Manger:

Here we go again. Today, I just received the information of what occurred on Tuesday, March 4th on the day President Trump addressed the nation from the United States Capitol. You clearly are going to try to conceal it from the public as much as you can but you must understand it will not be possible for you to conceal anything as long as I am breathing.

With that said, you have until 12 pm Monday morning to fully brief the American public of what occurred on Tuesday. If you do not I will and in the future you will not be offered advance notice of these reports. There is no doubt in my mind that you are arguably the most corrupt politician in the history of our country, but after what I heard today you are taking your treachery to an all time height.

You have to know I’m getting this information from people who work for you. Why do you think that is? It’s because they don’t want your treacherous stink on them and they are praying that one day soon you will step down. Lastly, you still have not provided any explanation to the inaugural event in January (please see below). We are still waiting for that as well.

Tarik K Johnson

Former Lieutenant US Capitol Police

Just a week ago, Tarik Johnson fired off a letter to United States Capitol Police (USCP) Chief J Thomas Manger alleging yet another lapse in security for President Trump.

Gudthots

Heavenly Father,

Thank you for your hand of protection over our President and his cabinet, and all their families, staff, and protective details.

Commission your mighty, holy angels to stand guard, bless, protect, and guide each one day by day.

In the glorious Name above all Names, Jesus Christ your Son. Amen

Valerie Curren

Amen!

MarieUrsula

The Real Secret Service.

The-Real-Secret-Service
Valerie Curren

Sunlight ASAP!

4GodandCountry

Paging Secret Service Dir. Curran, Speaker Johnson, and AG Bondi…please pick up the red courtesy phone immediately….Director Curran, Speaker Johnson, and AG Bondi…..the red courtesy phone.

Valerie Curren

Hubby woke up for a bathroom run just as Director Curran was awarding that badge to the brain cancer kid. I mentioned the guy’s name was Sean Curran. Hubby pipes up with his dad wanted to name him Sean Curren but his mom won out w/ Michael 😉

TheseTruths

THIS IS YOUR GOVERNMENT: Capitol Hill Lawmakers Drop Disturbing Details Allegedly Revealing the Dire Health Issues and Behavior of Many of Their Colleagues

Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) told Politico that up to a dozen of his colleagues are in advanced stages of cognitive decline and have no clue what they are voting on.

“There’s no question that somewhere between six and a dozen of my colleagues are at a point where they’re… I think they don’t have the faculties to do their job,” he revealed.

A Republican lawmaker who withheld his name agreed with Himes that dementia on the Hill was a problem and added this:

“I have a difficult time sometimes telling between the deterioration of members and a handful who are just not very smart.”

Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA) dropped even more disturbing information to Politico: members of Congress are showing up drunk and high as they go to vote.

“I’ve seen one Republican who, unfortunately for you, has to go unnamed, show up drunk a number of times,” he said. “There were one or two Dems I thought might be high on something but not drunk.”

Himes added that most members were rarely sober when they cast late-night votes, though he had never witnessed anyone extremely drunk.

“Every time we do an 11 p.m. vote, a minority of the chamber has a zero blood alcohol content,” he said. “Now, that’s different than voting drunk. I don’t think I’ve ever seen somebody demonstrably drunk on the floor.”

4GodandCountry

It’s a miracle the dims haven’t stolen Texas yet…🙄

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scott467

Unreal… must have been a ten Martini lunch.

4GodandCountry

And a thick line of coke to keep him upright. 🤷‍♂️

Wolf Moon

Dude seems a bit Dem already…..

Gail Combs

Probably a Bushie so same diff.

scott467

“Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) told Politico that up to a dozen of his colleagues are in advanced stages of cognitive decline and have no clue what they are voting on.”

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Really, Jim? I mean, you’ve gotta be kidding, or something… I’m shocked!

Whatever you guys do, don’t vote for term limits, not if you want to preserve the current state of the lunatic asylum 👍

These old rats remind me of a video I saw earlier today, where Michael Saylor talked about meeting the Captain of an aircraft carrier, who was 41 years old, and was only going to remain Captain for 36 months.

Brief background on Michael Saylor, founder of MicroStrategy (recently changed to just ‘Strategy’), whose company now has 499,096 Bitcoin:

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Wiki: Saylor was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, on February 4, 1965, and spent his early years on various Air Force bases around the world, as his father was an Air Force chief master sergeant. When Saylor was 11, the family settled in Fairborn, Ohio, near the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

In 1983, Saylor enrolled at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) on an Air Force Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC) full scholarship. He joined the Theta Delta Chi fraternity, through which he met his future co-founder of MicroStrategy, Sanju Bansal. Saylor double majored in aeronautical & astronautical engineering and history of science.

A medical condition prevented him from becoming a pilot, and instead, he got a job with a consulting firm, The Federal Group, Inc. in 1987, where he focused on computer simulation modeling for a software integration company.

In 1988, Saylor became an internal consultant at DuPont, where he developed computer models to help the company anticipate change in its key markets. The simulations predicted that there would be a recession in many of DuPont’s major markets in 1990.

As of 2016, Saylor had been granted 31 patents and had nine additional applications under review.
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Here is the video clip, where he explains what the Captain of the aircraft carrier told him, about why he would only be Captain for 36 months.

We should apply the same ethos to the government:

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4GodandCountry

Just want to add…

The Capt of a carrier is only the Capt of the vessel. But an aircraft carrier is always part of a “battle group”, with many protective and support vessels surrounding it.

The battle group is always commanded by an admiral.

And for a careerist, no…command of a carrier is not the “pinnacle” of a career. Achieving flag rank and assuming command of a carrier battle group, or even becoming a fleet admiral, is the pinnacle of an outstanding career, with the absolute “Everest” becoming Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) within the navy (one of the joint chiefs) or becoming the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs (the absolute highest).

FWIW 🤷‍♂️

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Wolf Moon

Good to know!

Brave and Free

So why doesn’t he start naming people? There has to be video of their behavior outthere, he’s only providing cover for them. So is he already blackmailed and that’s why he won’t name anyone?
It’s one big club, and we’re not part of it.

patfrederick

without proof it’s hearsay i think

scott467

““I’ve seen one Republican who, unfortunately for you, has to go unnamed, show up drunk a number of times,” he said. “There were one or two Dems I thought might be high on something but not drunk.”

_______________

That’s great.

So who has access to the House and Senate during voting, is it strictly the professional news media?

If so, then now that DJT is in office, that includes podcasters and youtubers who don’t (and won’t) cover for drunk or high congressmen.

So allow some podcaster to have one of their people in each chamber during votes, night or day, and when they spot someone drunk, zoom in and record everything they do or say.

Then make ’em famous.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The visitors’ gallery is often open to the public; also hearing rooms. (The visitor’s gallery is where all those folks that get called out in State of the Union (and pseudo-State-of-the-Union like last week’s) speeches, are seated.)

In fact I got to sit in on about 20 minutes of House Judiciary Committee hearings when Clinton was being impeached.

scott467

“Himes added that most members were rarely sober when they cast late-night votes, though he had never witnessed anyone extremely drunk.”

______________

So WTH is going on in D.C., that all these geriatrics are partying like it’s 1940 and they’re back in college again?

That’s just great, most of the Republi-cons are (modestly) functional alcoholics, and the Dims are smoking weed and eating bath salts.

What could go wrong?

TheseTruths

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4GodandCountry

Something like 7-8 extremely high level ActBlue attorneys/leaders have resigned in the last week.

Run, little pigs.

scott467

So protest on January 6th, and go to prison for 4+ years, some without trial.

Commit domestic terrorism at ActBlue, and you get to resign and move on with your life.

Equal Justice Under Law never looked so equal.

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4GodandCountry

Commit domestic terrorism at ActBlue, and you get to resign and move on with your life.

.
Or so they hope.

We’ll see.

Given the rollout of the Epstein stuff, though, they gotta like their early chances. 🤷‍♂️

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scott467

Brownshirts of the Democrat Party, unite!

scott467

“How big will the ActBlue scandal be?”

____________

Big enough that somebody actually gets arrested?

Nah, I was just kiddin’ with ya! 😂

TheseTruths

“Found out who’s making all the JD Vance memes” 😅

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Wolf Moon

LMAO!!!

TheseTruths

I have no idea who started this, or why, but…

Eric Daugherty:

Democrats realize that the JD Vance photoshops are making him more likeable and want the joke to be over

Vance forwarded this one, himself:

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https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1898421484697108789

4GodandCountry
scott467

Frances Potato: “joke’s over”

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We’ll decide when it’s over, toots 😂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA
Cuppa Covfefe

Yep, the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor was all but unforgivable 🙂

(maybe that’s why he did the movie 1941… ouch)…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I had someone quote that line to me one time, and I responded with “Germans?” (The same as the guy in the clip did.)

He then felt he had to explain where the line came from and I reminded him that “Germans?” was the response in the movie.

Cuppa Covfefe

“Let him go; he’s on a roll” 😀

Aubergine

I’m not Tarantino-obsessed like some, but Once Upon A Time in Hollywood is one of my favorite films.

TradeBait2

😂 👍

scott467

He’s good, I’ve seen his show 👍😁

patfrederick

love them!!!

Barb Meier

  :wpds_lol: 

TheseTruths

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scott467

As far as I’ve heard, every fire in CA has been started by alien invaders.

Gudthots

Criminal invaders that were there due to democrat policies.
Gotta kick out the insane policy makers (who also prevented good forest management).

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Valerie Curren

Wonder if that’s also what’s happening lately on the East Coast?

TheseTruths

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patfrederick

PREACH!

kalbokalbs

Illegals are a net positive for the country they left.

Illegals send money “back home”, weekly, monthly, to their family.

Boosting the economy “back home”.

patfrederick

the gov’t provided them free housing, free food, and necessities–cribs, etc. so any $$ they got, they sent home. all those benefits allowed them to send that $$ home. we need to tax that like citizen’s “income” is taxed.
if I’m gonna support Mexico and other countries, I wanna claim them as dependents on my income tax return!

pgroup2

How about we just call it the spoils of war and dump it in the Treasury?

patfrederick

first we have to make sure the looters of the Treasury no longer have access. or we’re just feeding a monster.

GA/FL

Not all – some are criminal gangs that don’t send money back home…they are imported to create chaos or to make money marketing drugs and give our leftist evil politicians money under the table – !!!

kalbokalbs

Agree.

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Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. As Reagan said, “they’re not sending their best”…..

TradeBait2

They bring their flags from their home countries with them to display (or are provided to them by the traitors), then celebrate their home country holidays, while sending money back home.

This national disaster needs to end quickly.

Valerie Curren

just as Christians cannot lose their salvation as God’s elect children”

This may be controversial, but I don’t believe that “once saved always saved” is actually scriptural. This link, as an example, points to many verses that address this issue: https://pastorvlad.org/alwayssaved/

Having their names blotted out of the Lamb’s Book of Life implies, at least to me, that one can be removed from a roll call (of salvation) that would lead to eternal life.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, just trying to hold fast to the Truth…Blessings to all…

other materials on the topic here: https://yandex.com/search/?text=once+saved+always+saved&lr=89&search_source=yacom_desktop_common

scott467

I didn’t see this one mentioned at the first link. Paul did not believe or teach that even he, an Apostle, could not be lost:

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“And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you. [24] Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. [25] And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

[26] I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: [27] But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” (1 Corinthians 9:23-27, KJV)
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4GodandCountry

just as Christians cannot lose their salvation as God’s elect children

Faith + acts are the two wings of the dove of Christianity.

Anyone who preaches faith alone is false, as even the demons believe, but the bird does not fly on one wing alone. Faith is merely the beginning of learning how to fly.

The other wing…the “acts” of taking up one’s cross, rejecting sin at every turn, and obeying Christ in all things…is the twin to faith that makes the dove fly.

Moreover, any person who claims to be a Christian but does not fear losing the grace and mercy of their salvation is in danger of hellfire, because the fear of the Lord’s righteous and perfect judgment is not in them.

Which is what Paul was, in part, alluding to here.

Valerie Curren

Amen & well found…

TradeBait2

I would like your thoughts after reading this.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-lose-salvation.html

Valerie Curren

TY TB All of those scriptures referenced at your link are valid & in play in this discussion. I won’t claim to have perfect knowledge on this or any topic. In this domain, as well as in a number of other scriptural based controversies, there are verses that underlie the various viewpoints & it is hard to reconcile them into a cohesive whole, in some ways, at least for me. Some of these types of controversies are what has lead to various fractures in the Church as a whole & perhaps, at least in part, why there are different denominations, where people feel strongly enough on various topics so as to segregate themselves from others in the Faith, so I don’t desire to see such a fracturing here as this topic is chewed over a bit today…

In refuting the “once saved always saved” viewpoint I don’t think it’s accurate to say that one could “lose” their salvation. In as much as it (might be) is possible to fall away from the faith the only way it could happen, in my opinion, is by a deliberate act of the will of the Believer. This is hard to fathom that someone who has come under the Blood of Christ would choose to ultimately reject the free gift of salvation but the numerous verses referenced in the link that I shared appear to imply the possibility.

So I don’t think that anyone could Accidentally “lose” their salvation, including for all the reasons & scriptures quoted in your link. In this anyone in the faith should take comfort for they cannot be snatched inadvertently out of God’s hand.

Could they, tragically, choose to turn their back on the Lord, scorn His sacrifice, & consign themselves to the flames? It appears that this is a Hellish trajectory that even the Redeemed could pursue. To do so would be the insane wanderings of the increasingly calloused heart, having once been made flesh choosing, in a diabolical trajectory, to ultimately return to its pre-regenerate stony state–unfathomably.

I hope I am wrong & that there is No Way that someone in the faith could ever remove themselves from God’s protective covering, but there are quite a few verses that appear to imply this possibility, at least to me, so I won’t make an emphatic declaration otherwise.

This topic generated a discussion between my husband & me as he heard the video playing from the link you shared. As might be expected we came at the issue from different perspectives. As earnest Bible believers it is still possible to see things quite differently when looking to the scriptures for guidance.

As always, we still see through a glass darkly!

TradeBait2

Thanks, Val.

This is at the heart of the Arminian versus Calvinistic theological split. Doubt we solve it on here. 😂

For the salvation transaction to work there has to be an exchange of the will and the heart. Without it there is no transaction. The sacrifice of Christ was too great for there not to be. We are totally dependent on His blood sacrifice for our remission of sins. His resurrection is what provides eternal life as a member of His family.

As a result I do not believe you lose your salvation even if you backslide into sin or renounce your salvation. Your salvation is not dependent on what you do after the transaction is completed. Peter backslid when harassed while Jesus was undergoing the trials leading up to the Cross, as did most of the others. He denied Jesus three times as Jesus predicted he would. He renounced his faith. Yet, he is still the rock on which the church was built. That meant he could not renounce his salvation, he simply needed to confess his sin and be restored into fellowship.

The problem is that many believe they transacted when they have not. That leads to Matt. 7:21-23.21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.”

That tells us our hearts and actions will reflect our true relationship with Christ. If I have transacted with Christ I am His servant, His slave as Paul states. I give up title to myself. I cannot reclaim title, it is not mine to reclaim and he never gives up title to us no matter what we do. He will allow us to rebel, sin, and face the discipline of our actions; but not give over title to our soul. He states that he is always with us, even unto the end of the age per Matt. 28. That is also a central theme of the story of the prodigal son

This is my view and I respect others who see it differently.

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Valerie Curren

Appreciate these insights!

Yet, he is still the rock on which the church was built.”

I differ with this view in that it’s Not Peter who was the rock but the Revelation he received from the Lord that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God–That is the Rock upon which the church was built!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Matthew 16:18 (NRSV): And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail agains ti.”

The context, he is talking to Simon son of Jonah, and names him Petros (Peter) at this time. That’s from Greek for rock; and in the next phrase the Greek is “petra.”

He’s naming Simon “Rock” and saying that on this rock (Simon) he will build his church. Rock is a reference to Simon, most likely, because in the same sentence Jesus just hung the nickname “rock” on him.

There might be nuances of Greek grammar which argue against this, but I would think the translators would have done something about that.

Valerie Curren

Well I think that Peter was already known by that name as he is referred to both as Simon & Peter & even Simon Peter in the scriptures. It struck me that Jesus was making a play on the words Petros & Petra to make a point.

This would be similar, to my way of thinking, how there were some “sounds like” revelations in the OT in one of the prophets, I forget which one now. My OT professor in grad school, who was on the committee that did that original NIV translation, said that God would say to the prophet “what do you see?” & the prophet would answer with what he saw in front of him. The Hebrew words of the answer were similarly sounding to the Hebrew words for the thing that God was revealing to the prophet, sort of a word-picture/concept device. This is not clear to us in reading these passages in English or presumably other languages but shows clearly in Hebrew.

In my way of thinking Jesus was referring to the Rock of revelation upon which His church would be built, not on Peter himself. I believe this viewpoint of mine is more “protestant” in it’s thinking whereas Catholics claim that Peter was the first pope, even though the Catholic Church & popes didn’t exist for several hundred years.

Here is the Blue Letter Bible link for Petros–Peter

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g4074/kjv/tr/0-1/

& Here is the Blue Letter Bible link for Petra–Rock

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g4073/kjv/tr/0-1/

14 other examples of the use of Petra–Rock are at the bottom of the last link too, for comparison.

Here’s the link to Matthew 16: 18 in the KJV

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/16/18/t_conc_945018

From my perspective if Jesus meant Peter himself would be the rock upon which the church was built he would have used Petros not Petra. The revelation of Christ’s deity is the rock!

One of those links, the middle one above, make reference to other commentaries that shed light on the topic, but I don’t know how to find them to check:

c. metaphorically, a man like a rock, by reason of his firmness and strength of soulMatthew 16:18 (some interpretations regard the distinction (generally observed in classic Greek; see the commentaries and cf. Schmidt, Syn., chapter 51, §§ 4-6) between πέτρα, the massive living rock, and πέτρος, a detached but large fragment, as important for the correct understanding of this passage; others explain the different genders here as due first to the personal then to the material reference. Cf. Meyer, Keil, others; Green, Critical Note on John 1:43).

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

From my perspective if Jesus meant Peter himself would be the rock upon which the church was built he would have used Petros not Petra.

That’s the sort of issue I was thinking about when I talked about the nuances of Greek grammar. Nouns can change ending depending on what case they are in, and the case has a lot to do with the meaning. Hypothetically, “Petra” might mean “on Petros”. I don’t know; I’m speculating.

I agree that the interpretation I favor is useful to (Roman) Catholics, it’s one of the things they go to when arguing against both Protestant and Eastern Orthodox, since Peter is supposed to have gone to Rome and become the first bishop of Rome. Even before the schism of 1054, the patriarchs in Rome were almost certainly using it to argue he was preeminent over the other four patriarchs (Constantinople, Antioch, Jerusalem and Alexandria) while the other four maintained they were equals. (I don’t know this is the case, but I’d be flabbergasted if it weren’t.)

Valerie Curren

Your reasoning makes sense in all points including church history. Veering away from scripture is always dicey & from my view (AND I think Scott’s) should be avoided. I don’t favor history &/or tradition over scripture but I think that Catholics & perhaps Orthodox view them on equal plains.

It is to me a modern form of Phariseeism where that sect gave equal weight to their traditions (Talmud) as they did to the Hebrew scriptures (Torah & more) in a sense elevating the rules & requirements of men to those of God–Dangerous!

Jesus roundly condemned the Pharisees in a number of places in the Gospels. They appear to be more institutions of men rather than of God & are designed in such a way to keep people out by having “secret knowledge” or practices that exclude the masses of the would-be faithful.

God Himself in the flesh as Jesus did not lay such heavy burdens on the people. The veil in the Temple being rent upon His death was showing physically that God’s very Presence was now available to all & not just hidden in the Holy of Holies as it had been since the tabernacle days. Pharisees, biblical AND modern versions, work hard to keep God multiple steps away from the people. Jesus Himself is the intercessor between God & man so we all can have Direct Access to the Throne of Grace!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think you and Scott agree about institutionalized churches.

I can’t really know one way or the other whether you two would agree on how it should be instead.

My read on early history is that the Eastern Orthodox are more like the early church than the church in Rome, but even they though they are less centralized than Roman Catholicism, they do have a hierarchy of bishops, on up into those four patriarchates I mentioned (with, I think Moscow having become nearly a fifth one, but don’t hold me to that–it’s a massively confusing subject).

Gudthots

Truth!

Valerie Curren

I don’t know if Greek Orthodox is part of Eastern Orthodox or not. Just tonight I was talking w/ my parents who have long time friends from a (mostly) past Prayer Group who both grew up GO but have been in various Independent, Spirit-Filled churches for decades now. Apparently one of their sons decided to return to his GO roots & he now believes that neither of his parents are Christians since they aren’t GO, as in only the GO are even saved!

We have RC friends who said basically that only the Catholic are truly saved, at least that’s what they were taught. We attended a Bible Study many years ago where everyone else there but Hubby & I were RC. Now this friend became a long time hunting buddy with my husband & he knows clearly that Michael & I are Christians & he’s seen the evidence of our faith over the decades & even looks to M to mentor him in the faith. We don’t tend to discuss religious beliefs much with them for there are likely many places where we’d have to agree to disagree!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Eastern Orthodoxy is decentralized to the point where the EO churches in many countries are “autocephalous” (they are an independent organization). They do their business (including services, liturgy, etc) in their own local languages. Greek orthodox is part of eastern though many conflate the two and use the terms interchangeably. (Russian Orthodox is too; in fact it’s the largest branch unless I am greatly mistaken.)

You can do a pretty deep dive into how it’s organized on wikipedia. I got to pick an EO priest’s brain one day. Apparently there are several orthodox churches in the US, basically all branches of some Old Country’s church, and they’re trying to create a single unified American Orthodox church. UNtil then, you can go to a Greek orthodox church or the Orthodox Church in America or Ethiopian or Slovakian…

The priest didn’t expect that to happen in our life times.

I find it interesting because it’s a “middle ground” (as far as being centralized) between the Protestant denominations, which have different beliefs from each other, and the monolithic Catholic church which does allow changes in “look and feel” but not in doctrine. This is decentralized but manages to hold to the same doctrine.

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Valerie Curren

Interesting…TY 🙂

scott467

“I can’t really know one way or the other whether you two would agree on how it should be instead.”

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Should be just as the Bible says, no more, no less.

And that’s a lot simpler, and a lot easier, than all the stuff men add to everything, generation after generation after generation.

Gudthots

This is pretty close to what I’ve read in the history of the church…

In the context of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, the Bishop of Rome, also known as the Pope, holds a special honor but not an authoritative position over other bishops.

The Eastern Orthodox Church views the Pope as “primus inter pares,” which means “first among equals,” similar to the role of the Chief Justice in the United States Supreme Court who holds a pre-eminent honor but cannot give orders to fellow justices.

The Eastern Orthodox Church acknowledges the historical importance and honor of the Bishop of Rome, but they do not recognize the Pope’s universal jurisdiction. This perspective is rooted in the belief that Jesus gave the power to “bind” and “loose” not only to Peter but to all the Apostles equally, as mentioned in Matthew 18:18.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

LOL exactly two chapters later.

Rome actually had 5 major basilicas, one each for the five original patriarchs. St. John Lateran [not St. Peter’s! which “belonged” to the Patriarch of Constantinople] is the one that actually “belongs” to the Bishop of Rome–a new pope has to sit in that chair before he is the Bishop of Rome. One of them has since been demoted.

St. John’s – Patriarch of Rome
St. Peter’s – Patriarch of Constantionople
St. Pauls (Outside the Walls) – Patriarch of Alexandria
St. Mary Maggiore – Patriarch of Antioch (as in “Holy Hand Grenade of”)
St. Lawrence (now a minor basilica) Patriarch of Jerusalem.

Now of course these associations are moot other than St. John’s being the first ranking basilica in spite of not being St. Peter’s which seems, today, as if it ought to be the most important one.

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Valerie Curren

Interesting history but All well outside of Scripture, clearly as well after 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, it’s history; the Bible certainly does not say anywhere to build five patriarchal basilicas (as they were known before the Great Schism) in Rome.

Valerie Curren

Sadly I don’t even technically know what a basillica is, as it’s definitely not in scripture, at least not by that name…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Originally a basilica was a type of Roman building that used trusses so there could be a lot of clear interior spaces.

The Christians liked using them for churches and now it pretty much means a certain architectural style of church.

Probably the best surviving example (sort of; it burned down but was restored as it was originally) is St. Paul’s Outside the Walls in Rome. I have visited it twice because architecture is (yet another) one of the many things that goes into my mental salvage yard.

Valerie Curren

I love architecture too! It was one of the five topics that were part of Humanities classes in college. At the end of the semester they would have a huge Final called the Synthesis & they used the school’s chapel because so many students were taking 3 of the required 12 credits at any time.

These 5 topics were what the synthesis would be comprised of & each would be written on a piece of paper that was tossed in a fish bowl. 3 papers were removed at the beginning of the Synthesis & you had to choose 2 of the 3 topics to write about. So everyone studied 4 topics, usually, or 3 if they were ballsy (but stupid) so that they would know enough to fake it for the final exam/torture!

Gudthots

Sometimes I’m more interested in what has happened and how it has shaped various churches *before* I start to do any *discerning* of whether some thing is scriptural or not.

What I am *sure* is scriptural is that the church is the bride of Christ and he is the one able to keep us and bring us into his perfect will.

Valerie Curren

Amen & that Bride is One Body 🙂

Valerie Curren

I would look at the “keys to the kingdom” of Matthew 18: 18 as having been given to All Believers, not just leadership!

4GodandCountry

he never gives up title to us no matter what we do.

First, that is antinomianism, which Scripture explicitly condemns (Romans 6:1-2, 1 John 3:6-9).

Second, Peter is a very poor test case to use. For example, when he denied Christ he did so out of fear, not disbelief or willful rebellion.

Third, what does the King himself say?

I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I will spit you out of my mouth.

Revelations 3:15-16

That is as clear as cold mountain air on a bright sunny day, which proves the lie to this comment…

he never gives up title to us no matter what we do.

That is a incredibly dangerous thing to allow oneself to believe.

TradeBait2

C’mon. After the transaction – name a person He gave up.

Peter is a poor test case you say. So you say. Jesus told him he would deny him before he actually did it, yet, he remained within the family and served.

He knows all of our deeds and words, even those written now and in the future. Yet, he forgives and does not cast us out. Your example is not in context. Perhaps because we are not lukewarm.

No more dangerous than the stuff that you trot you there.

You certainly express yourself in a manner that seeks to offend and assert dominance after claiming you have changed when you came back.

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Gudthots

Come on man!
He’s just being a BOYD.

TheseTruths

As a result I do not believe you lose your salvation even if you backslide into sin or renounce your salvation. Your salvation is not dependent on what you do after the transaction is completed.

I am not arguing one way or the other, just presenting a situation I know of and some thoughts.

I know someone whom I would call a “seeker.” He grew up in the Catholic church, explored Eastern religions, then found God and was baptized and practiced his faith. Then he fell away. He seemed to lose faith altogether and began seeking again, exploring a number of other religions.

I find it hard to believe that someone who renounces Christianity, having once embraced it, would be “saved.” It doesn’t make sense to me, but I am not the judge of these matters.

In the end, he came back to Christianity, renounced all he did in the meantime, and has been living according to the faith for a number of years. I believe God is merciful and welcomes people as in the parable of the Prodigal Son, but I don’t know how my friend would have fared if he had kept denouncing God.

Valerie Curren

My son’s Respite Care Worker comes from a Muslim family. He also has a grandmother who was a Christian evangelist who even had a radio show at one time. Someone in that family chose to walk away from Christ actively & become a Muslim instead. It is incomprehensible to me that someone could know Jesus as Lord & savior but then just decide that He was only a good teacher & not actually God.

Similarly I recall that Dr. Laura Schlesinger was raised in some type of Christian faith, possibly RC, but she “converted” to Judaism. I can understand a Christian being drawn to Jewish roots of the faith & choosing Messianic Judaism perhaps, but to outright reject Jesus as Savior, Lord, God, & Messiah–Inconceivable!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And many go to outright atheism. (I am not one of those BTW.) I’ve watched many a “deconversion” story. In many cases it’s a very painful process and people who go through it actively warn still-Christians (during discussions) to the effect of “I can demonstrate what I just said, but if you follow this link you might lose your faith.” They don’t wish that pain that they went through, on others. [If somehow you were to deconvert, I guarantee you would lose most of your current friends. You might end up estranged from your family; you’d almost certainly lose at least one. You might end up divorced. NOT good, no fun at all. You find out what it’s like to be an atheist in this culture.]

What happens in these cases is people start asking questions, oftentimes hoping to deepen their faith, and find themselves unsatisfied by the answers…and one day they realize they can’t believe it’s real any more. Not believing it’s real any more is why they walked away (as hard as it may be for you to wrap your mind around that concept).

Valerie Curren

So this would imply that you, even as an Atheist, don’t believe in “once saved always saved”…how ironic!

Not to make light of it though & I appreciate what you shared above & am sorry for your & their pain.

I personally see a big difference in turning away from God versus turning away from the institutions of man that Claim to be The Church…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Not sure how once saved always saved applies to atheism; in fact “saved” isn’t even a sensible concept from where I stand, there’s nothing to be “saved” from. In other words I have no idea what you mean by that first paragraph.

Losing friends and family is only part of the pain; having your whole world view turned upside down is NOT easy. Watching former flerfer Jeran is a case study of this. (He has lost many friends, and he’s had to go through the pain of realizing he fought for ten years for something he now cannot believe.)

As for the latter, you’re basically turning away from (what you believe to be) heresy (or maybe just hypocrisy), which is no less than I would expect of anyone: being true to what they believe–and that applies whether you’re actually right or wrong.

Valerie Curren

Well I guess you didn’t read the Entire conversational thread because I opened it by mentioning “once saved always saved” & how I didn’t believe the concept was actually scriptural, having pulled a quote from Carl’s original post to comment upon.

The Christian concept of salvation would be to be “saved” from your sins & from the punishment for sin & eternal damnation for those who are not under the Blood of Jesus.

In scripture Jesus is described as the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world. in the Fall of Man, eating the Forbidden Fruit has brought about Death (eventually physically & immediately spiritually, I believe) & permanent separation from God, who had walked in The Garden & talked with Adam & Eve before The Fall.

Anyway God knew that sin would come into the world & that death that would follow. He also knew that Man would never be able to live up to God’s requirements to be redeemed from sin., which is why Jesus was always going to be the Perfect Sacrifice, the Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world.

All are born into sin, Original Sin, that which we inherited from Adam. None of us are capable of living up to God’s standards nor can we attain His Presence Eternally on our own. However Jesus, the Perfect Sacrifice, paid the price for all sin for all time so all any of us need to do is receive that Free Gift of Salvation to be Born Again & Saved from Sin, Death, Hell, & the Grave…

All of the Jewish law was a foreshadowing that was & is fulfilled in Christ. Whom the Son sets free is free indeed. We become a “new creation” upon accepting Christ, old things have passed away & all things are made new. We are saved from sin, from our sinful nature having full control, saved from being eternally separated from God, Who Is Love, & Who has prepared a place for us with Him in Heaven eternally…

The Book of Hosea rather beautifully illustrates God’s love for His People…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I did see that. I just couldn’t see how you could sensibly apply it to me as an atheist.

True I don’t believe it, but that’s not ironic; it’s a consequence of not believing there’s anything to be saved from. I also don’t believe you can lose salvation once you’ve had it. Thus there’s simply no argument here because there’s no saving to either be permanent (or not).

Valerie Curren

From one of your previous comments: “I’ve watched many a “deconversion” story. In many cases it’s a very painful process and people who go through it actively warn still-Christians (during discussions) to the effect of “I can demonstrate what I just said, but if you follow this link you might lose your faith.” “

There could be No “deconversion” if the person had not previously been “saved” as in “in the faith”. That’s why I thought it was ironic that your anecdotes seemed to support my contention that “once saved always saved” is not accurate (nor scriptural).

“I also don’t believe you can lose salvation once you’ve had it.”

Are you actually saying that the so-called “deconversion” stories are just actually of people who never Really believed so actually were never in the faith but had only recently woken up to that “fact”?

I’m a bit confused here 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No. From my point of view the salvation isn’t real and never was. And that’s also the point of view of those former Christians.

Once they deconvert, they don’t believe there was ever actually anything for them to lose. Ask them and they will tell you that although they once thought they were saved, they now don’t believe there was anything to be saved from.

You seem to be unable to understand that in an atheist’s mind salvation doesn’t exist. You can’t lose it, because you never had it; you can’t retain it, because you never had it, because it does not exist.

What happens when a Christian loses their faith is that whereas before they thought they were saved, afterwards they realized that in fact they never were saved because the concept is nonsense to them now. They don’t look on it as losing their salvation, they look on it as losing the illusion of salvation.

They don’t lose it. They never had it because it never existed.

I know that to you it looks like they lost it. Which is fine, but you can’t claim my position is in agreement with yours when my position rejects your position’s premise.

At the risk of coming across as trivializing your beliefs, let me try an analogy–to try to illustrate the issue here.

Victora and Frank belong to some weirdass cult that believes in boojums. But Victoria belongs to a sect that insists they’re green, while Frank’s sect believes they are red.

Sam doesn’t believe in the boojums at all so he’s happy to tell Victoria he doesn’t believe in red boojums.

Victoria is NOT entitled to say that Sam agrees that boojums are green or even that boojums are not red; Sam doesn’t believe there are any boojums to argue about the color of at all.

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Valerie Curren

I guess that’s why “deconversion” is in quotation marks.

In your mind, many/most atheists, & the “deconverts” there is no such thing as salvation.

Interesting. TY for explaining it.

Everything in the Bible, besides its historicity, is just some big hoodwink of certain people to try to control other people or something, I guess? Hmmm

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As I understand it, salvation is being saved from going to Hell because we sin.

Sin in turn is an offense against God.

Well…if there were no God, the term “sin” would become meaningless (unless repurposed). If there’s no God (who after all had to have created Hell), there’s no judge to send you to Hell (or not, if saved). There’s no Hell. There’s no Heaven. There’s no Satan. There is the world you see around us, and that’s it.

It’s not JUST not believing in God, it’s not believing ANY of that exists. (There are outlier atheists; we aren’t all the same by ANY means…I am talking about the most common case.)

Most (but not all) atheists don’t believe there’s any sort of afterlife at all. Therefore none of these other concepts makes any sense; they also don’t make sense if there is no God.

(Oh if I wanted to get creative I could gin up some sort of weird doctrine where there’s a Hell but without a God, And if I can imagine that, maybe there’s some atheist who believes that too. But I’ve never heard of it.)

Most atheists are naturalists of some sort or another and would maintain that nothing supernatural exists.

And yes you will see many atheists who insist religion is all about social control, and that’s why it was invented. I’m not quite that cynical; I do think we’re predisposed to see agency in natural phenomena, since that could have survival value out in the wild (see grass stirring, assume it’s a leopard, not just the wind–the common example). So it’s not deliberately evil, but every religion IS man made.

Valerie Curren

It’s interesting but in the course of many of our (collective, not just you & me) Q-Tree conversations it seems that you have some grasp of “good” versus “evil” but maybe I’m misremembering or perhaps you are using common parlance since this is a Judeo Christian country & those concepts prevail.

Without God as a source of good (and evil since He is the Creator of All) in some ways why should you care what the dems do or whether “evil” gets away with it?

If this life is all there is you should seek your highest comfort & pleasure & not give a fig about anyone else unless you choose to care about them for some reason.

Help me understand, if you don’t mind. Where does Your motivation come from & your sense of Truth & Justice?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

THAT is a complicated topic and I part company with most atheists on it.

Most atheists will accept a set of ethical rules that lets society function, but since those rules weren’t handed down on tablets, there’s some flexibility in defining them (so long as they still “work” well enough that society doesn’t extinguish itself…e.g., if you don’t forbid murder your society will fail). They will also insist on calling ethics/morality “subjective.”

My approach is much closer to Ayn Rand’s. She asks, not “what code of morality should we have” but rather, “do we need a code of morality and if so why?” (This is honestly something that should be written in a post…or a series of them. So I’m going to skip over quite a lot.) Once she determines the reason we need a moral code, she can reason herself to the sort of moral code that fulfills the need, and it’s not a subjective decision, it follows directly from the nature of man and the reason man needs a moral code. (And she can go from there to defining the proper role of government, and the proper economic system, which is where my politics comes from.)

I do think there’s such a thing as evil, but (and I have to explain this to many “typical” atheists” I am not personifying it, or treating it as some sort of natural or mystical force; it’s simply those actions that violate the objective moral code; it can also be applied as an adjective to people who consistently do so.

Valerie Curren

TY for explaining.

This is honestly something that should be written in a post…or a series of them.”

I hope you do at some point. I can imagine you giving us a very solid historical journey through various forms of human government &/or moral systems & why they were successful or failures. It would be fascinating!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You might find it interesting, but a significant number of people here would HATE it, because I’d be explicitly denying morality comes from God, and many Christians insist that it can ONLY come from God. (Which by the way is them telling me I’m immoral by definition.)

I would then be piled-onto in the comments and still be answering them three days later.

Incidentally I think a lot of churches do us a profound disservice by implying to people that if you aren’t Christian you are amoral at best; that just means when someone loses their faith the Leftists/Commies can scoop them up because after all what other alternative is there? They’ve heard all their life that those are the two alternatives.

Valerie Curren

That’s too bad. There are So Many shades of gray!

I think Wolf has created a sufficiently Free Speech haven here that you can say what you will. If you have to put the “Atheist Disclaimer” before & after, so be it 😉

I consider you a Brother in Arms & I still Hope to see you a Brother in the faith…eventually, God willing!

But maybe such “teachings” would be a better fit at the U-Tree. Does anyone still duke it out over there? If you do create such material I hope you’ll at least link to it here at the Q-Tree to draw in interested readers who might also feel like discussing any differences…

Valerie Curren

every religion IS man made” in my view yes except for Christianity & Judaism in their purest forms, which came from God. How they are executed, especially nowadays, is very much adulterated by man, I believe…

I can somewhat imagine why ancient cultures would look to the natural world & upon seeing powers greater than themselves like weather & illness they would then invent “gods” they might appease to get favor.

I’m currently reading a book about Viking culture & the author takes pains to separate the pre-Christian pagan forms to the post-Christian amalgamated forms. The author is female & also takes pains to rather “invent” or discover a feminist viewpoint, imagining perspectives & processes that do not really grow out of the scant evidence, rather unscientifically it would seem.

I was telling my husband, badly, about how I could rather relate to her perspective in that when I was much younger I used to get so frustrated by the scriptures (& preaching) that seemed to mostly be about & directed toward men & where women & girls were seemingly very much of an after thought. That Viking book authoress is also wrestling with most of the written & archeological cultural evidence centering around men. It can be quite challenging to be “unseen”…as perhaps you, as an Atheist, might feel in a predominantly Christian society…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think you might finally be getting a glimmer of what the differences are between us. And it’s MY fault it took this long.

It looks like, up until now you basically thought atheists believed in afterlife, heaven, hell, sin, salvation, maybe satan, just no god.

And of course that just didn’t make any sense to you, because in fact, it wouldn’t make sense.

I had a similar experience many years ago talking to a Christian; to draw an analogy, I sort of imagined Christianity as being (say) a Ming vase (the natural world) with a plastic leprechaun (God) glued onto it. Why do these Christians insist on gluing this totally unnecessary leprechaun onto the vase? I had to invert my mental picture to (hopefully) see it a little more like the Christian to think of the universe as springing from or maybe even being something that branched off from God. God is the vase, the leprechaun is replaced by a handle that is part of the vase…and fits with it. Many faults with it but I was realizing I wasn’t dealing with a paradigm like mine but with extra stuff on it, but rather, a totally different way of looking at the world.

Valerie Curren

That is quite interesting. Keeping the dialogue open is a good thing! I value your viewpoints, even when I disagree 🙂

I’m also honored when you take the time to share your thoughts on such topics with me too, so TY!

scott467

“What happens in these cases is people start asking questions, oftentimes hoping to deepen their faith, and find themselves unsatisfied by the answers…and one day they realize they can’t believe it’s real any more. Not believing it’s real any more is why they walked away (as hard as it may be for you to wrap your mind around that concept).”

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I would guess that at least 90% of the time, they are unsatisfied by the answers because of all the lies and BS of false doctrines they have been taught, which cannot be reconciled with Scripture.

I don’t point this out all the time for no reason.

Doctrines, commandments and traditions of men have practically supplanted Biblical Christianity in many modern churches.

If one of those church members goes looking for answers, to deepen their faith, they are going to discover that a LOT of stuff they do, practice or believe cannot be reconciled with Scripture.

That’s not God’s fault. That’s not Christianity’s fault.

That’s the fault of MEN, false teachers, including many who don’t even realize they are false teachers.

And when their followers realize they’ve been lied to, they become disillusioned.

And if they look around, they see that most other churches are no different.

It is easy to conclude that it’s all a fraud.

They didn’t look long enough, or closely enough, to find the church that ONLY follows Scripture, to the very intentional exclusion of anything else.

You won’t find members of those churches becoming disillusioned or falling away because they discover that their church isn’t doing exactly what God’s Word says.

They may get discouraged by other things going on in the congregation, e.g. personal disputes (which ought not to happen), but it won’t be for lack of following the Scriptures.

The only way someone who is a member of a church that actually follows the Scriptures (and nothing else) is going realize what they believe is not real anymore, is if someone succeeds in breaking the Scriptures.

So far, that hasn’t happened.

The best chance of doing so will be with A.I.

I don’t think A.I. stands a chance, if it is honest.

If A.I. just takes the route that detractors take, and point out inconsistencies which, with further study and understanding of historical and cultural context, are not actually inconsistencies at all, then it will be nothing more than Christian criticism on steroids.

But if the A.I. understands how to reconcile what on the surface appear to be inconsistencies (the kinds of things people who have no understanding of the Scriptures always raise), then we will see if the A.I. can find any real and genuine inconsistency or contradiction.

TheseTruths

Fox News:

“If you save my son, I will give you everything. I will give you my life. I will give you my platform. I won’t be ashamed to talk to you, talk about you.”

Actor Chris Pratt made a deal with God after his son was born with health issues. Now, he’s trying to “make good” on his promise.

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1898086210095980915

Valerie Curren

Hubby stumbled across a video short of Christ Pratt doing a Bible study the other day…

TheseTruths

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Valerie Curren

bwah ha ha!

4GodandCountry

…otherwise, he can go stuff his fat-ass mealy mouth with more cheesy poofs and stfu.

Valerie Curren
Gudthots

Now do abortions, Micheal.

patfrederick

giggle, snort

cthulhu

…..or the fanatic that’s going to run over both of them at a Christmas parade?

Valerie Curren

Here’s an update on my mom, who’s been having some neurological issues that have increased of late.

They saw Mom’s neurologist for about an hour on Friday. He went over recent MRI scan info compared to 2 years ago. She had some spots on the former MRI that have solidified. There are also several places where there are “holes” in her brain matter, presumably fluid filled. They don’t want to invade the skull yet but plan a spinal tap later.

The doc is putting her on more intense steroids, 60mg for the first month, 40mg for the second month, & 20mg for the third month. This course is supposed to have some positive effects including reducing the “excess” fluid I think. Then they’ll get another MRI.

She’s supposed to take the anti-seizure med that was formerly prescribed, at least half the possible dose, to help counteract what is apparently like sub-clinical seizures. I mentioned before about her saying that she felt a pulling inside her fingertips & the doc said this was indicating seizure like activity going on. At the full dose she sleeps many hours of the day which isn’t preferable.

Mom was able to attend a local ladies Bible Study the last couple weeks. They also made it to their church last weekend for the first time in 2025. She enjoys the fellowship 🙂

There is the possibility that the brain/neuro issues can resolve to some degree per the doc. I sure would appreciate prayers for Mom in her healing & Dad in his caregiving.

Thanks so much for so many prayers on behalf of my family over the years!

God’s Best Blessings to all!

Gudthots

Lord, visit this beloved mother with your care and healing. Grant her and her family grace in everything.

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Valerie Curren

Amen. TY Gudthots  ❤ 

patfrederick

thanks for the update Val. I’ll keep you all in my prayers!

Valerie Curren

Thanks so much Pat. God Bless YOU!

patfrederick

and you as well!

Valerie Curren

Thanks Pat…hugs  ❤ 

PAVACA

Valerie Curren
Thank you so much for the update!
Sending Good Energy and prayers for your mother and father, Deep Healing for your mother, Deep Wisdom to the medical team, and Good Energy to you.

Valerie Curren

Thank you PAVACA, much appreciated! God Bless you too as you are remembering your loved & lost ones of late. Spring, renewal, AND resurrection is coming!

Firefly

🙏 🙏 🙏

Valerie Curren

TY Firefly God Bless!

WSB

Please admit my prayers for your Mother, Valerie!

Valerie Curren

TY WSB all prayers are welcome. Blessings!

para59r

resurfaced video.

Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in 2014, speaking about the Russian population of Donbas which the Ukrainian army had begun bombing:

“Our children will go to schools and kindergartens, their children will sit in basement bomb shelters.”

This didn’t start in 2022

https://twitter.com/GUnderground_TV/status/1898386949309620470

pgroup2

It sure didn’t.  😠 

para59r

A lot of this Up is down and down is up stuff has been surfacing of late.
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1898469521037443103

4GodandCountry

  :wpds_shock:   :wpds_envy: 

Yeah…I wouldn’t let this thing watch my dog, much less any kids.

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RAC

When countries are openly and deliberately working against you taking preventative actions in advance is obvious and necessary.
It’s not a question of concern about causing offense, or it may not be them, just cut the feckers off completely is the only way to be sure…
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/08/concerning-ukraine-aka-nato-hits-leningrad-region-kinef-oil-refinery-in-russia-with-drone-attack/

“♦ WATCH FOR THIS – The U.S. is still sharing the targeting information with the U.K. However, if the NATO/EU/UK/CIA use the targeting system it will be very obvious; attacks against ‘Russian territory’ be visible. That’s all the proof needed.
If any long-range missile/drone operations continue, then someone is violating the Trump order. There is no other way to look at it.”

RAC

Oops sorry, I see now the subject has already been brought here I should have read the page before posting.

pgroup2

Blame it on the time zones.

patfrederick

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TradeBait2

Here’s the problem. The Ponzi schemers are the government and politicians who used the “trust fund” and “lockbox” of SS to fund excess spending of Congress and the office of POTUS.

If SS taxation was left alone as intended when enacted, it would have long since reduced the rate of taxation and have sufficient funds to handle its responsibilities to the retirees and employers who paid into the system for at least 100 years. They commingled the funding into the general treasury to give the appearance of being near a balanced budget, which they do not even pretend to do a budget anymore or hide the deficit spending.

Term limits, balanced budget amendment, kill the Fed, kill the income taxes. Most of the problems will be generally solved.

Wolf Moon

OK – This makes sense!

Gail Combs

IIRC it was Clinton who did it. I think it was on https://www.shadowstats.com/

TradeBait2

Yup.

Gail Combs

THANK YOU!

The “Retiring Boomers are STEALING OUR TAX DOLLARS” is one of the Falsehoods Patrick Gunnels was spouting on Badlands media. (Rumble). It is one I have seen over and over again elsewhere.

WSB

I still believe SS should be IS, Individual Security, spread around to your local bank, your account established as capital, and invested in low risk investments.

patfrederick

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kalbokalbs

100% true.   :cheers: 

patfrederick

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Aubergine

I just checked a mirror, and took a couple of online tests.

This meme is marked *accurate*

Lol!

patfrederick

LOL
I’m thinking of using that as a tagline for everything from now on…according to a study I just made up!

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

57.4 percent of all online statistics are made up.

pgroup2

Nice precise percentage you got there. Made it up, did you?

  :wpds_lol: 

patfrederick

that’s according to a study…i just made up.

RAC

Well “according to a study I just made up” is more honest than usual covid, global warming, and every other thing they push as “experts say”

patfrederick

to be fair…it’s the same method…LOL

Aubergine

I like it!

cthulhu

Another way to have more popular posts —

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Gail Combs

Oh what a absolute cutie!!!

Donkeys can be such sweetie pies.

patfrederick

  :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol: 

cthulhu

Passed through the time distortion, I think.

Aubergine

First time I’ve seen this video, but WTAF?! At the inauguration, Biden appears to grope Melania, and I think Trump was about to smack him! Staff intervenes, along with Jill. Crazy!

https://x.com/Kathy202424/status/1898532015143792923

Wolf Moon

Probably how he first grabbed Jill – the “accidental” butt-touch while visiting her donor husband.

4GodandCountry

Ooof!!

Dayyum.

Aubergine

Nasty old bastard.

Valerie Curren

This back view says he brushed her bottom but I’m not sure if he did or not…

https://xcancel.com/Kathy202424/status/1898645431351206270#m

https://twitter.com/Kathy202424/status/1898645431351206270#m

Aubergine

I couldn’t tell for sure, either. Gross either way. Pervert.

Valerie Curren

No doubt. & right in front of his wife, what a freak   :wpds_evil: 

Gudthots

Now that, would explain what Barron was so serious about when he spoke to Biden.

Aubergine

Very well could. It would also explain why Melania was so serious and unsmiling most of the day. I’m so angry for her. She couldn’t even slap Biden’s ugly face, for fear of upsetting the applecart. Just disgusting.

GA/FL

In other news – S0r0$, the funder of anti-American ideologies, terrorist activities, treason, insurrection and sedition, is in deep doo doo….

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GA/FL

I hope this is enough to exile Soros and his progeny – and to confiscate all his fake NGOs operating in the USA and other US assets.

para59r

Since this is a private company they are attacking I’d hope they’d be smart enough to demand maximum charges and sue for damages.

patfrederick

Secret Service shot armed man in confrontation near White HouseBy Christian Sierra, CNN
Updated: 8:15 AM EDT, Sun March 9, 2025
Source: CNN
An armed adult man was shot by US Secret Service personnel on Sunday morning outside the White House, the agency announced shortly after the incident.
President Donald Trump was not at the White House Sunday morning.
According to Secret Service Chief of Communications Anthony Guglielmi, USSS received information about a “suicidal individual” who was traveling to DC from Indiana. Guglielmi said in a statement that USSS members saw a person matching the description near the White House and found their parked car.
“As officers approached, the individual brandished a firearm and an armed confrontation ensued, during which shots were fired by our personnel,” Guglielmi said.
The person was taken to the hospital, and his condition remains unknown.
The US Secret Service said there were no injuries to members of their personnel.
DC Metropolitan Police’s Internal Affairs Division Force Investigations Team will lead the investigation into the incident, Guglielmi said, as they are the primary agency responsible for officer involved shootings in the District of Columbia.
CNN has reached out to the DC Metropolitan Police Department for comment.
This story is breaking and will be updated.

para59r

This story from Revolver was out a day or so ago. It’s been picked up by other services.
Essentially a prominent Ukrainian journalist has called for the assassination of President Trump. Obviously not something to ignore.

https://revolver.news/2025/03/are-westerners-ready-for-guerrilla-revenge-ukraine-will-unleash-its-starting-now/

Wolf Moon

Ukraine Nazis (Sausage Lady vintage) saying the quiet part out loud.

pgroup2

Time for him to get whacked.

kalbokalbs

US should stop funding Ukraine media.

Then the asshole loses his soapbox. No one would know he said anything.

mollypitcher5

let’s not forget the ties to Ukraine that mercenary American men have had with them. M Yearick for one and the Florida guy who attempted to kill Trump at the golf club. I’m sure there are plenty ofothers.

Gail Combs

I think the FBI floating IRAN was all about diverting attention from Ukraine which makes more sense.

kalbokalbs

Iran is the alternate bogeyman. Russia primary bogeyman.

mollypitcher5

GMTA…yep bogeyman!

mollypitcher5

Probably so. Iran is another fallback boogeyman. Z’s country is a hot bed of labs, trafficking, arms training for loser antifa types all quietly hidden away from any snoopy journalists…it’s at war ya know yet we had previous conflicts as prime time tv entertainment. They think we’re stupid

Gail Combs

“…DC Metropolitan Police’s Internal Affairs Division Force Investigations Team will lead the investigation into the incident, Guglielmi said, as they are the primary agency responsible for officer involved shootings in the District of Columbia….”

Well forget about getting any REAL information. It will go down the SAME rabbit hole the J-6th tapes went.

pgroup2

Oh ye of little faith.  😂 

Gail Combs

Realist.

To get anywhere you need a complete change in the Capitol Police Board AND an honest Capitol Police attorney.

pgroup2

Mister Grammar Cop here.

What’s up with a Chief of Communications who can’t use proper grammar?

YIKES!!!!!!

Gail Combs

DEI

Did you really have to ask?

Wolf Moon

Just an FYI. The draft you gave me will appear on Tuesday, 3/18/25. Thank you!

Gail Combs

You are very welcome.

I may ask you to up load a header for Wednesday’s article. I can barely see a small percent of the ones that are available.

Wolf Moon

Not a problem – just let me know what you’re looking for!

patfrederick

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Wolf Moon

^^^^^THIS^^^^^!!!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And no one elected the person who was supposedly in control of the autopen, either.

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Brave and Free

Well not in 2020 anyway, maybe in 2008 they did.

Valerie Curren

In 2008 the “winner” wasn’t a Natural Born Citizen so was ineligible to the office he aspired to, plus he was a Commie anti-American closet (gay?) Muslim whose very oath of office was an affront to the Constitution & to God, in my opinion…

duchess01s

EACH DAY WE TAKE UP THE OFFENSIVE WEAPON OF THE WORD OF GOD – THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT – ONE VERSE OPENS THE DOOR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE CHAPTER MESSAGE

Verse of the Day for Sunday, March 9, 2025

“Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:” 

Isaiah 55:6 (KJV)

6-13 Here is a gracious offer of pardon, and peace, and of all happiness. It shall not be in vain to seek God, now his word is calling to us, and his Spirit is striving with us. But there is a day coming when he will not be found. There may come such a time in this life; it is certain that at death and judgment the door will be shut. There must be not only a change of the way, but a change of the mind. We must alter our judgments about persons and things. It is not enough to break off from evil practices, we must strive against evil thoughts. To repent is to return to our Lord, against whom we have rebelled. If we do so, God will multiply to pardon, as we have multiplied to offend. But let none trifle with this plenteous mercy, or use it as an occasion to sin. Men’s thoughts concerning sin, Christ, and holiness, concerning this world and the other, vastly differ from God’s; but in nothing more than in the matter of pardon. We forgive, and cannot forget; but when God forgives sin, he remembers it no more. The power of his word in the kingdoms of providence and grace, is as certain as in that of nature. Sacred truth produces a spiritual change in the mind of men, which neither rain nor snow can make on the earth. It shall not return to the Lord without producing important effects. If we take a special view of the church, we shall find what great things God has done, and will do for it. The Jews shall come to their own land; this shall represent the blessings promised. Gospel grace will make a great change in men. Delivered from the wrath to come, the converted sinner finds peace in his conscience; and love constrains him to devote himself to the service of his Redeemer. Instead of being profane, contentious, selfish, or sensual, behold him patient, humble, kind, and peaceable. The hope of helping in such a work should urge us to spread the gospel of salvation. And do thou help us, O Spirit of all truth, to have such views of the fulness, freeness, and greatness of the rich mercy in Christ, as may remove from us all narrow views of sovereign grace.

Commentary by Matthew Henry, 1710.
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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!



duchess01s

WE ARE FIGHTING A SPIRITUAL WAR OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01s

PLEASE PRAY FOR ABUSED, MISSING, AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01s

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St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.

Gudthots

AMEN!

duchess01s

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duchess01s

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

MAPA = MAKE AMERICA PRAY AGAIN

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duchess01s

THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB

Are you saved by the Blood of the Lamb?
Are you washed clean or will you God damn?
Have you repented down on your knees?
Have you accepted Jesus as God decrees?

Were you made in His image from the start?
Separated through sin, did you depart? 
Did you fall short of the Glory of God?
Trapped in sin throughout your life have you trod?

Was it the lure of pleasure that did you in?
Was it the lack of conscience deep within?
Did you seek attention and praise from man?
Was that when you fell and it all began?

Were you puffed up in pride with your gift?
Did attractiveness, talent give you a lift?
Was it approval from man that you sought?
Or were you meek and humble as you ought?

Did you trod on your neighbor; feed your greed?
Did you compete ruthlessly; feed your need?
Up front and center; was that your desire?
From attention and praise did you ever tire?

Selfishness rears in unlikely places;
It shows in actions; mostly in faces;
Its ugliness, strain affects not just one;
All who love Jesus; have Him in common!

The root of all evil is money, some say;
But selfishness, too, has a part to play;
For when we are selfish, we create strife;
We ignore the Truth, the Way, and the Life!

Jesus said: Deny self and follow Me;
How can we do that if selfish we be?
By the Blood of the Lamb, we are saved;
But we cannot ignore the heart depraved!

For, from the heart, comes what we admire;
If worldly pursuits alone we desire;
If putting another down raises us up;
From the cup of salvation we’ll not sup!

Repent and be saved from worldly aims;
Accept Jesus as Lord; the prayer claims;
Renounce all your sins in His holy name;
Renounce the need for attention and fame!

By the blood He selflessly shed on the tree;
Victory over death made mankind free;
For the wages of sin is death for all;
Failure to repent will be mankind’s fall!

Seek first the kingdom and earnestly pray;
The Blood of the Lamb will wash sins away;
Accept Jesus as the Lord of your life;
Defeat selfishness and eliminate strife!

D01: 04/18/2013



para59r
TradeBait2

Amen!

duchess01s

Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing 

#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.

#faith #god #psalms

prayeveryday777

https://rumble.com/v57jvfg-sleep-well-with-psalms.-psalm-91-psalm-121-psalm-3-psalm-4-psalm-139.faith-.html

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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️



duchess01s

ANGELS EVERYWHERE

You do not believe in Angels – you say
You just might see one someday on your way
Because there are Angels everywhere
Scurrying around quickly here and there

There are Warring Angels ready to fight
Send the Demonic Angels off to flight
There are Comfort Angels who cuddle you
With the warmest of hugs and smooches, too

There are Messenger Angels sent by God
With a word or memo that leaves you awed
Organizing Angels arrange systematically
Your paperwork mess neatly automatically

There are Healing Angels who come with vials
Of healing oils they pour on vitals
There are Praying Angels who lift you up
And give you a drink from the Blessing Cup

There are Traveling Angels who watch the way
Their safety measures are beyond the fray
There are Guardian Angels who talk to you
Make sure you’re doing what you’re sposed to do

Repair Angels assist with your car breakdown
They’ve a knack for finding malicious meltdown
Mechanical Angels tweak, twist and turn
Human Mechanics discover discern

God made the Angels to assist on Earth
They were already here before our birth
To make sure we had the auxiliary leaven 
To succeed in this world and advance to Heaven!

D01: 07/03/2019



duchess01s

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Wolf Moon

Really enjoyed this one, this morning! Thank you!

para59r
para59r
4GodandCountry

BREAKING….

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LINK https://xcancel.com/IfindRetards/status/1898222409259299226

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scott467
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Whether or not this was one of them, I’m sure there have been more than four.

patfrederick

h/t Filly
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scott467

😁

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Valerie Curren

They didn’t include the part where someone says “you got a little Arzt on you”–yikes!

patfrederick

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That would actually be Alfred Nobel…who endowed the Nobel Prize.

No, I’m not shitting you.

Valerie Curren

So did he Actually blow himself up at one point, literally OR metaphorically???

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No but he was the inventor.

Valerie Curren

TY. So “Artz’s” speech on the topic was bullcrap…shock/s 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I decided to be absolutely sure he didn’t die in some accident (my memory could have been faulty, in which case I’d have owed an apology) and I found this on Wikipoo:

On 10 December 1896, he suffered a stroke/intracerebral hemorrhage and was first partially paralyzed and then died, aged 63.[38] He is buried in Norra begravningsplatsen in Stockholm.[41]

It doesn’t say “in one piece” but that’s implied. 😀

The article claims he was Lutheran, though how he could possibly have been a follower of Lex Luthor back then is beyond me. (OK, that’s a cheap pun.)

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Valerie Curren

Thanks for going the extra mile Steve. Sad he died so young.

Darn, my plan to “educate” myself via TV shows & movies has taken a heavy blow!  😂 

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cthulhu

Just like the checks were signed — autopen!

Gail Combs

OR the illegal that used their SS#. Remember they illegals are stealing SS#’s and the IRS does not report it to the victim. Most of the theft is from younger people IIRC.

patfrederick

good catch–that’s probably it.

scott467

I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess ‘criminals’?

How much does someone have to steal, in order to qualify for arrest in the United States?

Is $312 million enough?

patfrederick

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Wolf Moon

“heifer”! 😂

scott467

“What happened to all that ‘nobody is above the law’ bullshit?”

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It was all bullshit!

Protected-classes are so far above the law they can’t even see the ground without a telescope!

singingsoul1

Amen

singingsoul1

Bondi better do her job instead being on TV. I want her to go after those who break the law otherwise she is no better than the previous clown. How quickly I lost respect for her. She seems naive sees things through rose glasses and does not seem to grasp the task she is entrusted with Gaetz had the chutzpah for the job.

cthulhu

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Valerie Curren

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kalbokalbs

INSANE: Russian Commandos Move Troops and Equipment Across 7 Miles of PIPELINE, Emerge in the Ukrainian Defenders’ Rear in a Breakthrough in the Ongoing Liberation of Kursk
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/insane-russian-commandos-move-troops-equipment-across-7/

Wolf Moon

WOW.

Kea

Am I the only one who didn’t know this?

Pope Benedict XVI had passed away?
Date of death
December 31, 2022
On 31 December 2022, at 09:34 Central European Time (UTC+1), former Pope Benedict XVI died at the Mater Ecclesiae Monastery in Vatican City at the age of 95. He had been pope emeritus since his resignation as the leader of the Catholic Church in 2013 due to declining health.

kalbokalbs

Certainly seems like it was intentionally, not announced. I may be wrong. I do wonder why.

Seems he was the only Pope in my lifetime to, “retire” I guess is the word.

Kea

I was reading an article and it mentioned his passing and I was like wait what?
Your right it does seem intentional.

Cuppa Covfefe

He was forced out by Satan Sauros (who bragged about having done it). His death was announced in the media over here at least, but that could be because we only watch/listen to alt-media…

Pope Benedict was a TRUE Pope and a good Christian, well-respected as a theologian on both the Catholic and Protestant sides of the aisle(!).

kalbokalbs

Yea, I know it was a coup of sorts. Surprised it wasn’t commonly known.

Rather disrespectful of the Vatican. IMO.

MarieUrsula

Pope Benedict XVI’s passing into Glory in 2022 was well known to active Catholics. I don’t know if it was widely publicized in the MSM, which I don’t pay much attention to.

Kea

You’re the first person I’ve run into who knew.

There was almost nothing in the msm which is odd.

MarieUrsula

Remarkable!

Gudthots
Kea

Yes that’s where I read about Benedict

duchess01s

EVENING PRAYERS

Prayer Of Thanksgiving In The Evening

Praise Your holy name Heavenly Father, for granting yet another day in my life and for being with me every step of the way. Thank You for the many blessings that You have provided and the love and fellowship that I have with the friends and family that in Your grace You have placed in my life.
 
My heart is so thankful for all the many blessings that I enjoy day by day, and today I am once again reminded that Your mercies are new every morning and Your faithfulness endures from generation to generation.
 
Thank You, that I have been brought into Your family and have been made a child of God and a citizen of heaven. Words cannot express my love and devotion to You Lord
 
I pray that You would watch over me as I rest tonight, and that You would give me a restful night’s sleep so that I may wake up in the morning refreshed in body and spirit and ready to do Your will. Guard all those that I love and may we all grow in grace and in a knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ in the days that lie ahead. This I ask in His precious name,
 
Amen.

Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers
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Prayer Of Reflection On The Past Day

Loving Lord, as the day is coming to an end, I want to thank You for being with me in all that has taken place today. I also want to lay the whole day before You, asking that you would show me if there is anything that I have done to hurt or harm another person unknowingly, or if I have done anything that is displeasing in Your sight, or quenched the work of the Spirit in me, so that I may turn away from such things in the days that lie ahead.

Lord, I desire to do Your will in all things. I pray that You would cleanse me of any wrong thoughts or attitudes that may have surfaced in my heart today. Wash me in Your cleansing flood, I pray. 

Thank You, that You are a God who forgives our transgressions when we are willing to confess them to You, knowing that such cleansing before You immediately draws us back into sweet fellowship with Yourself. 

Give me a good night’s rest I pray, and may I rest quietly in Your loving arms in the knowledge that in Christ, I am eternally secure, due to Your amazing grace, for which I praise You. In Jesus’ name, 

Amen.

Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers
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Evening Prayer For Forgiveness

Heavenly Father, thank You for bringing me through this day and Lord, forgive me for the times when I have wandered outside Your best will for me, instead of trusting You implicitly.
 
Thank You, that You are such a gracious Shepherd to me and that You come and rescue me even when I lose my way and stray from the path that You have laid out for me.
 
As I look back over today, I know Lord that there were things that I should have said and done differently, and times when I reacted in a manner that was not honouring Your holy name. Forgive me I pray, but thank You, Father, that You always faithfully prepared to gently bring me back to Yourself.
 
Give me a good night’s sleep I pray, knowing that there is no condemnation because I am in Christ, and may I wake up in the morning refreshed and ready to do Your will. In Jesus’ name I pray,
 
Amen.

Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers

Valerie Curren

Amen

Gudthots

AMEN

4GodandCountry

BREAKING

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Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth issues new statement on climate change programs in the military:

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“The Department of Defense does not do climate change crap. We do training and warfighting.”

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The soul of brevity and clarity.

Wolf Moon

Too bad for China. Maybe peace looks like the better option to them, now that the opponent doesn’t have one hand tied behind his back.

Peace through strength. Awesome concept.

Brave and Free

And the other hand outstretched for a payoff.

Valerie Curren

rim shot!

singingsoul1

I do not understand the people who want war like in Ukraine and other places in the past promote climate change. Military and climate change are not compatible.

MarieUrsula

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The common denominator of compatibility.

cthulhu
Wolf Moon

LOL!!!

pgroup2

That is NOT sarcasm.

Valerie Curren

Hope that study was Well-Funded to discover this Shocking “Fact”!  😂 

scott467

No reason to risk U.S. troops to take down drug dealers. Just use a missile from a drone, silly.

kalbokalbs

Biden’s Dumb LNG Pause Has Rightfully Met Its End
Energy Secretary Chris Wright and Interior Secretary Doug Burgum held a joint appearance in south Louisiana Thursday to tout the restart of the growth of America’s liquefied natural gas (LNG) industry.

The event celebrated the kickoff of a planned $18 billion expansion of the existing Plaquemines Parrish LNG export facility operated by Venture Global. It also served to symbolize the end of what was frankly one of the dumbest policy actions ever invoked by executive order – then-President Joe Biden’s “pause” on permitting for new LNG export infrastructure.

Reversed by President Donald Trump on day 1 of his second term in office, Biden invoked the year-long pause in January 2024 on the flimsiest of pretenses, a preposterous claim by anti-natural gas activist researchers that US LNG emissions exceed those of coal-fired power plants. Worse, that claim was not made in findings of a peer-reviewed scientific study, but in an early “preview” of a study that fell apart on close inspection.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2025/03/09/bidens-dumb-lng-pause-has-rightfully-met-its-end/

kalbokalbs

Inglewood, CA. Same city two illegals killed a homeowner, a day or two ago?

8+ people injured after a driver rammed a car into a CarMax in Inglewood, California

https://twitter.com/CrimeWithBobby/status/1898532803236569378

Cuppa Covfefe

Sad. We used to call that area IngleWatts…

scott467

Hey, wait a minute.

That doesn’t look anything like my culture!

kalbokalbs

Not a good pattern developing.

BREAKING: Twice in the past 48 hours, F-16 fighter jets intercepted general aviation aircrafts near President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1898811400174309747

4GodandCountry

This will taper off quickly.

scott467

Pick one to shoot down, and everyone else will get the hint real fast.

singingsoul1

Our President has many enemies inside the country and abroad.
He is doing a great job and the leeches cannot stomach it.

kalbokalbs

Interesting. Canuks cash in Trudope, without Canadians voting.

BREAKING: Canada’s Ruling Party Installs New Prime Minister to Replace Trudeau – A Leftist Former Goldman Sachs Exec Who Compared Trump to a Harry Potter Villain
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/breaking-canadas-ruling-party-installs-new-prime-minister/

scott467

Canadia is the new failed narco terror state.

singingsoul1

The new guy according to Viva “is as bad or worse than Trudo.” I do not see better relationship with the new guy

kalbokalbs

Ms Linda fretting over laundered money through Ukraine being interrupted.

Lindsey Graham: Halting Ukraine Aid Would Be ‘Worse Than Afghanistan’
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/lindsey-graham-halting-ukraine-aid-would-be-worse-than-afghanistan/

Wolf Moon

Yup. Linda. Ms. Linda.

singingsoul1

That shifty guy Graham is responsible for Ukraine war including Nuland and know name and many others we do not know.

duchess01s
para59r

Showed this scene from some tv show called White Lotus. Very funny.
https://twitter.com/PONY_Official/status/1897054303707394343

para59r

Same vein. Clear cut interview from the drummer of System of a Down, John Dolmayan . This guy is MAGA. All his views are ours. Very articulate and extremely knowledgeable, provides great insights. That said, I can’t vouch for the music. Knows the sound when I hear it, but only remembers the one about running to the hills.

Interview is much watchable all the way through and the guy has answers and powerful insights, but you may stop at any time. Kinda of like having all of us in the same room to include Scott, Gail and Duchess. Doesn’t seem to miss much of anything.

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Drummer for Famous Rock Band ‘System of a Down’ Talks About Why He Voted for Trump (VIDEO)
Mike LaChance Mar. 8, 2025 9:20 pm 220 Comments

Wolf Moon

Excellent! Dude is VERY clear-headed and sharp. And I have to say, I really relate to him.

para59r

Yes, pleasantly surprised by this. One of the other band members came in mid interview, pig tailed hair braid guy. Not sure if that means a sharing in values or not but seemed like it might. Not a listener so I’d not be trying to evaluate/interpret any meanings behind the music but someone might and give some thoughts on that. I did though listen to one song, not the one I linked to and it seemed to slight the phony holly wood child stars people fall for. At least that was my interpretation.

Wolf Moon

Awesome!

4GodandCountry

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Wolf Moon

DEMONS!!!

Valerie Curren

Perkins Coie did all the work to stop the cases about aka Barak Obama’s (aka Barry Soetoro, Harrison J. Bounell, Soebarkah etc.) non Natural Born Citizenship status from ever getting a legit hearing…

Remember that even DJT was working on exposing the fraudulent birth cert for aka BHO!

Wolf Moon

YES!!! This is starting to add up.

Valerie Curren

Trump is apparently playing a Very Long Game!

Wolf Moon

Good stuff, Carl. I did not know this about elect angels!

kalbokalbs

U F B. Further insulting to the gal hit on the head, both teams disqualified.

19 seconds.

Wild moment at the VHSL Class 3 State Indoor Meet. A runner in the girls’ 4×200 relay clubs an opponent in the head with a baton mid-race. Both teams were disqualified. @milesplit #TrackandField

https://twitter.com/atxgoodguy/status/1897746945034403942

mollypitcher5

WTH?

para59r

Interesting. So the last muscular reactions of girl that got clubbed on the head was to raise her baton in what look liked the intent of striking the leader in the head?

Track an field in this state apparently is a contact sport.

scott467

“Track an field in this state apparently is a contact sport.”

______________

Now you know why the girl in the lead was running so fast… 🤣

para59r

Indeed. 😆

scott467

😁

scott467

What’d she do wrong?

That’s just how they do it in the ‘hood. If someone gets the advantage on you, you whack ’em.

She’s probably been doing it that way since she was 8 or 9. If you’re gonna change the rules then okay, but at least grandfather it in so she isn’t penalized.

para59r

Nice brief by a smart woman who does not want to waste your time. For us a bit of microcosm on EU politics, George Soros effect across the EU with some emphasis on Romania and how GS deviant bureaucrat types are keeping the popular candidate out of the race.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1898796782861115865

para59r

One really has to grapple with the question of “What rules in the Universe make it so that we have to tolerate this Satan spawned creature?”

https://twitter.com/WorldHallOfFun/status/1898797633642352801

scott467

Pam Bondi isn’t allowed to arrest him. Apparently DJT isn’t allowed to arrest him either.

Makes you wonder who’s really in charge.

para59r

Fits with cosmology and Eschatology (end time philosophies).God is ultimately responsible for creating both good and evil.
How we handle it is our test. Best described in the Mahabharata where everything is tolerated until it leads up to the final battle at Kurukshetra.

Pocket sized summary well done. 4 plus minutes.

scott467

It’s like everything else DJT is doing, that most people thought was impossible, until Trump just did it.

Then everyone adjusts to the new reality.

All it ever takes is the will to do what is right.

scott467

😁

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kalbokalbs

Dumrats shining star. ~One minute.

Valerie Curren

She’ll have a long & storied career of saying many words while at the same time saying absolutely nothing. She eye eh please stay very far away!

cthulhu

I am on a hot date tonight with a saucy little wench named ‘Advil’.

As I have said far too many times, I own a 1994 Honda Accord Wagon. Part of the reason I am so attached to it is that, by and large, I understand it. We’ve been through nearly a third of a million miles together, and I know how the knee-bone connects to the thigh-bone.

That said, there are a couple of very questionable design decisions made with this vehicle. One is the fuel filter mounted under the master brake cylinder that requires disconnection from both the bottom and the top and accessing a mounting bracket against the firewall.

Another is the main wire harness coming from the engine that goes through the firewall right under where the windshield drains when it rains. There’s an old-school rubber gasket there, which on my car is 30 years young…..which means the passenger floor gets wet when it rains. Everyone and their brother knows the obvious kludge — caulk it, right over the old gasket.

Took it apart a couple of days ago, put the caulk today and reassembled it. Only problem was working upside down — which would have been trivial about 20 years and/or 70 pounds ago. Plus working in a mirror — if I had been good at that, I could’ve been a dentist.

I’m expecting her to get into my muscles and ease their aches Any. Time. Now…..

Valerie Curren

My hubby can barely do anything under a car any more due to bad vertigo. Unfortunately one of the bearings he recently replaced in the ABS has gone bad again (cheap Chyneze metal maybe?) so he’s gearing up to tear into it in our backyard this week. Last time he was able to sit up to do much of the work which helped Mightily…we’ll see…

Hope you feel better Real Soon & the car probs are resolved!

Valerie Curren

Wow, sorry. For Hubby it involves laying on his back & cutting his eyes up & to one particular side. He also has issues when he sits up to get out of bed, but it usually resolves in about a minute.

He’s aware of some vertigo exercises that can reduce the problem but they are a pain to do because you basically have to keep inducing the vertigo a bit to help yourself get past it, or maybe get used to it…

There are also certain therapies you can get for the inner ear, but those cost money. You might look into it to see if something might help you out though 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That sounds a bit like BPPV.

Valerie Curren

What’s that? It’s not Benign Paroximal Vertigo, which is something certain doctors speculated that my son Josiah had. He used to have Major sensory issues, partially autism related. He could spin all day on a horizontal axis w/out probs but try to spin him around the vertical & he’d get dizzy, queasy, & even throw up. Of course he threw up multiple times for other sensory stuff too–fun times NOT!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I don’t know what the letters stand for but it has something to do with tiny crystals or rocks in the inner ear having broken loose from where they’re supposed to be and raising havoc when they move around.

At least that one has a cause. When your inner ear blows out for no reason they can detect, they call it Meniere’s disease. (Since they don’t know what causes any particular case of it, for all we know it’s five or six or a dozen different diseases all sitting in the same bucket until we learn to tell them apart.) THAT is what killed my flying, and I know different Meniere’s patients had very different experiences with it. Fortunately it hasn’t really bothered me much in years, but there’s always the chance I’ll have a drop attack out of the blue. Back when they were frequent I always had a second or two of warning but then many years after I thought it was all over, I had one without any warning at all that had me falling onto a table at a coin show. THAT was scary and I am always wondering when the next one will hit. It has been years; but it had been years that time, too. Just last night I had a very mild, momentary vertigo spell, about two seconds. Just to remind me I’ll never be completely out of those woods. (And just enough I don’t dare fly without another pilot.)

Valerie Curren

Oh my Steve that’s pretty scary. I wonder if what Gudthots found above might help you?

I think Trade Bait’s wife suffered from Meniere’s Disease & in some of his health posts he shared how she got some significant improvements, in case you didn’t see that before.

So cool that you are a pilot. That was one of my dreams that I never fulfilled…yet–ha!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The point is, “Meniere’s” is a bucket they throw you in if they don’t know what’s causing it.

It almost never impedes my life…awareness just hangs around in the back of my mind. But there were two or three years of *frequent* vertigo attacks of different severities; one time at work I took what I called a two hour “lost my lunch” break, camped out in a bathroom stall just in case I had to dry-heave again. It almost never really says “Knock knock, I haven’t gone away” except that my balance is not good, and I am deaf on that side. (I have a pair of headphones where the deaf side broke, and I never even realized it till I put them on backwards one day.)

It was horrible in the past, just a nagging worry today. But the hearing damage is permanent, the impaired balance is permanent. There’s really nothing to “prevent” now.

Valerie Curren

I’m deeply sorry that that happened to you 🙁

Gudthots

I’ve know people that were taught how to do the moves to fix when vestibular bones get crusty by their chiropractors. I know of one person that watched youtube videos to figure out how to do the moves.

Valerie Curren

That sounds kind of like what Hubby has heard of. Do you know what it’s called so one can search for such tutorials?

Gudthots

I can’t remember…
looking around I found these links:

https://www.moms.com/vestibular-system-exercises-for-autistic-kids/
https://vestibular.org/article/diagnosis-treatment/treatments/vestibular-rehabilitation-therapy-vrt/

Found the name: Epley maneuver

Vertigo is often caused by the displacement of small calcium carbonate crystals, or canaliths, within your inner ear. The Epley maneuver — also known as the canalith repositioning procedure (CRP) — is a method to remove these crystals trapped in your ear’s semicircular canal.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/17930-canalith-repositioning-procedure-crp

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Valerie Curren

Thank you very much!

I just emailed the info to my hubby 🙂

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, the Epley maneuver! I remember that name, now that you mention it.

cthulhu

It causes strange and powerful effects, usually referenced as “Epley’s Believe-It-Or-Not”???

litenmaus

Lordy I love good repartee’ :0)

Valerie Curren

You must Love Cuppa!!!

Barb Meier

Shadow of Ezra

@ShadowofEzra

Meet Canada’s new Prime Minister, Mark Carney—pictured here alongside notorious child s*x trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell [at the link].

This wasn’t just any gathering; it took place at Carney’s sister-in-law’s estate, Cornbury Park—a known hotspot for globalist elites.

Is Mark Carney a client of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell?

https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1898880210398826792

para59r

Country wide federal election to be held in October of this year. But yeah, this is the new Prime Minister the progressives in Canada chose to replace the fairy queen with until the Federal election.

Valerie Curren

good grief

globo homo pedo nazis just don’t quit  😡 

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para59r

New style of summarizing the news by Balkan Mapper. Thinks it’s going to require the viewer to have a good understanding of current events but likes it for it’s fast read.

One for Syria. Both are 9 March today.

Gudthots

Different format, but lots of information.

Valerie Curren

On the dot…maybe 😉

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yep.

Zorro

Hi Steve, want to tell you thanks for your info shared today, plus generally grateful for the science articles. I’m sure all of us here take you seriously, but the best part is that you so often lead us into a smile.

I wonder if you’ve ever enjoyed the book by Bart D Ehrman, ‘How Jesus Became God’. If not famous, this book is at least notorious, and an entertaining read. I listened to it on CD in the car! The author is the reader, and reads it very well.

This is meant to be a scholarly book but author Erhman incudes asides to share his personal journey. During this book the author reversed his lifelong Christian identity and “de-commissioned” and, he assumes, “de-converted”. He said he just didn’t believe it, the whole thing, anymore. Your explanation seems to match with Bart Ehren’s aside comments. And Steve, you are a Top Flight Explainer.

Love and other-worldly energy to all of Wolf’s denizens of the Tree.
Zorro

Wolf Moon

This one went into the bin because I changed your name to Zorro – hopefully the next comment won’t go into the bin, but if it does, I’ll kick it out, too, until they stop going into the bin.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yikes did you just read that whole conversation I had with Valerie?

As for Ehrman, I have read that book as well as others. He wrote another titled “Did Jesus Exist?” in which he says, yes, and backs it op. (Christians won’t be satisfied, though, because according to Ehrman (and a lot of other scholars) the Jesus that existed was just another apocalyptic preacher (a dime a dozen back then), who got executed for claiming he was the king of the Jews…and just over the next couple of decades got Paul Bunyaned into the literal son of God–via the process described in “How Jesus Became God.”)

Ehrman says there that virtually every bible scholar, even secular ones (and there are quite a few secular ones) are pretty sure that at the very least some guy like this existed.

However the most woke atheists seem to think it’s a purity tests of some sort, and you have to believe not even that much of the Bible is true, so they push a position called “mythicism” stating that Jesus was completely made up. Ehrman started coming under attack from these people so “Did Jesus Exist” was his response.

He wrote more specifically about his deconversion process in “God’s Problem.”

A lot of his other books have covered the sorts of things uncovered by Bible scholarship over the past couple of centuries…things Fundamentalists cannot abide; but non-Fundamentalist scholars (many of them Christians, just not fundamentalists) find what Bart writes to be mainstream.

He IS popularizing a bit in these books. I read one of his more scholarly books (“The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture”–a title which rockets Fundamentalists into the ceiling) once and it was quite dense with footnotes, jargon, etc. That’s a real scholarly work.

Ehrman studied under Bruce Metzger probably the foremost biblical scholar in America at the time (again, outside of fundamentalist circles). Metzger contributed to the Revised Standard Version and led the NRSV committee. A very favored work of Metzger’s was “The Text of the New Testament” and for the fourth edition in 2005, Ehrman became co-author.

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Zorro

That long stream of posts by Valerie and you, and some others too, well it gave me a buzz! I learned a lot, certainly things were expressed more clearly than I could have done. Your patience held out until we understood what you were saying from the beginning. Congrats!

What impressed me most with ‘How Jesus Became God’ was Ehrman’s discussion of the ways societies in time and location have different baselines for What-God-Is.

This group here is amazing! Pretty sure I don’t want you to ever print the Don’t Click This Link link. But everything else you write for us, I look forward to reading. Thanks.

Z