We know they’re eventually going to pull the plug. Q told us this already.
Now, the rumors are getting close.
However, things are getting bad for me already. I want to check with others and get some ground reports.
I have never had problems with Gab on my mobile. No longer – I can’t get on. It times out.
Likewise, I CANNOT get any Republican donations to work. Seriously – I cannot get to WinRed.
Now, check this out. All WinRed donation requests are now going to my Google junk folder on an Apple device.
The only thing that got through was a donation request for Georgia from Mitch McConnell. But the link to his personal funding site (not WinRed) DOES NOT WORK EITHER.
NONE OF THE LINKS WORK. I cannot get through to ANY GOP donation site.
I need to see if I’m alone, or if other people are able to make donations or get to Gab on both Apple devices and other devices.
This China Coup by the tech giants is EVIL.
I need to know HOW EVIL.
W
just dropped you a note on Parler and Gab. Dotchacha
He said he was getting timed out on Gab. Put the info here.
I can get on with different devices that don’t go through Apple or Google. I suspect they’re only impacting some avenues for plausible deniability.
Gotcha. I thought you were in the desert with no visible palm trees.
Gab has been a little slow to load lately, but they are getting a lot of new traffic now. Their servers are probably stretched right now. I have an android phone, but I use the Adblock browser. Don’t know about donations though…But yeah, Parler was really slow a few weeks ago, but I think they upgraded their hardware since then.
I just tried to login on Gab and couldn’t get on. It kept telling me to log in or sign up. I tried 3 times and got the same. i use my Mac to sign on.
Sounds like a typo password!
I just tried again twice and still get the same as above. What do you mean typo password?
When people put in the wrong password – typically a typo – and the browser REMEMBERS it, that is the most frequent cause of repeated rejections by a website.
Not necessarily your problem here, but you need to always be aware of it, IMO.
Many operating systems and browsers will fly past any kind of opportunity to re-type the password, or will “fill in” the old one, despite what the user actually thinks is happening – that they retyped it. When they experience what your seem to be experiencing, that is often the cause.
Could be a wrong email or username, too.
With Gab, I find it very helpful NOT to use machine-suggested passwords, but rather one that I know, because that way the browser and OS cannot CHEAT ME out of my Gab login.
Tim Cook HATES Gab. If his people sabotaged Gab logins, he would “pretend not to know”, IMO.
If you have to, WRITE DOWN your Gab username and password and hide it. But always remember your login and password, and keep the email CURRENT – changing it if you need. I would WRITE THAT DOWN, TOO.
I have dealt with so many people not keeping their crucial information on their Gab account, I have literally spent HOURS coaching people. I knew this day was coming, so it was worth it, but still. SAVE THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION however you have to do it.
I have always written my password down and keep it hid. a long time ago I couldn’t remember my password to a website so thats when I bought the spiral index cards and started writing down my usernames, passwords, and security questions. I know I put the correct email in and my password because I always double check before i hit sign in or submit. I again tried to log in and I still can’t get in.
I just found your account page:
https://gab.com/Bcootz
Thanks, I was able to get on but then kicked off due to maintenance. I appreciate you helping me. For the chat on Gab do I have to sign in or log in? In other words do I have to have a separate password for it? I’m not all that computer savvy. I’m slowly learning now that I have more time on my hands since I retired.
I recommend the same password for both Gab and Gab Chat unless you are both security savvy and have a foolproof system of keeping multiple complex passwords for everything. Most people cannot keep track of 1 Gab password, let alone 2.
Yes, Gab Chat uses the SAME username, but a different password IF YOU WANT ONE, otherwise just keep them the same for simplicity.
Thank You☺️
Good – saw your Gab message!
We’re at https://gab.com/groups/4178 for those who don’t know where our group is on Gab.
Odd tech happenings I’ve observed within the past 24 hours:
* 4chan turned off image uploads for part of the day. This has happened before where they’ll turn off images or freeze the board entirely if there’s some damning news or leak that the cabal wants censored.
* /qresearch/ was spammed with child porn. I suspect the goal was to force the board owner to turn off images like 4chan did.
* Youtube was down for awhile
* 4chan is reporting that some mobile networks are censoring the postal worker interrogation video. I haven’t tried this myself.
IMO, this is all a test run for immediate mass censorship whenever some -really bad- news come out.
I strongly recommend that everyone make back-up copies of all Q drops and any videos, articles, and information that you would need to access in the event of an internet blackout. Do not take easy access to the internet right now for granted.
Additionally, we should all assume that WordPress.com is as compromised as the rest of the Big Tech censors and prepare for the possibility of this blog being censored.
A friend sent me a message that Youtube was down.
It wouldn’t surprise me at all to start seeing grid problems and shortages of supplies. They’ll blame Trump to try to stir stuff up.
We eat a lot of fresh fruit and veggies and it’s been horrid this year trying to find quality fresh items.
On facebook there is a group (on our side, backs PDJT) of truckers who are stopping deliveries. The first one that I know of was on 11/11. The next on will be 11/26 through 11/29. The said be prepared and stock up.
Great post! Yup. Be ready to NOT have internet news.
Posted in Gab, can’t private message in Parler. I only use pc’s and laptops so I’m not familiar with cell phone apps, programs and usage.
Sorry. 🙁
Good enough! This thread is turning into a “Gab readiness thread” – that’s fine with me!!!
I read this thread….. and went to Gab.
I see you at the top of my page….(1 hr ago)
where you posted:
“Barr is a White Hat. He pushed aside the Obama creep who was gatekeeping all prosecution of electoral fraud. The guy (Richard Pilger) is now in a “non-supervisory position” a la post-exposure McCabe.
Buckle up. Some of the feds (DOJ & FBI) will be out taking down fraud. The rest of them (Dodge & Fib) will be out covering it up and intimidating witnesses.
Interesting times, thanks to CHINA.”
BTW…. I’m using a Windows Laptop
Google Chrome Browser.
Excellent – that’s our group – that’s where we meet if WordPress shuts us down.
If they do….. I’ll be there if We can 🙂
Tonight my internet was going in and out, so I called the company. I got a recorded message that they were aware of issues with Youtube and streaming video, and the wait time was 29-45 minutes to talk to a person! Ordinarily it’s about 5-10 minutes.
I assumed, maybe wrongly, that the Project Veritas video of the USPS whistleblower (down now, BTW) was what they were trying to prevent people from seeing. But maybe there is more to it.
On a side note, today I talked to a liberal friend of mine. She wouldn’t vote Biden, so she voted third party. She said to me “I see what they are doing, it’s what third world countries do to control people and elections. I don’t want to see it, but I see it.” She is actually scared, which I view as a VERY GOOD THING.
Time to swallow that red pill, sheeple, before it is too late. She even asked me to send her links to the Veritas USPS guy stuff.
Excellent! I agree – good that she’s scared. Red Pill readiness state!
If she needs some hand-holding, you can tell her there are a lot of “classic liberals” and “honest liberals” in the fight, who are horrified by the lemming-like move away from classic values like freedom of speech, civil rights of individuals, freedom of religion, etc.
“Radical chic” stops being chic when the mob decides you’re not doing it right! The leftist mob seems like fun and games – until it’s not.
We got in bed with the dragon, and now we have Jurassic fleas.
Jurassic fleas!!! Bwahahaha!
This friend is WICKED smart, just really misguided, like so many college grads her age (she’s 40). She just can’t keep her head in the sand with me yanking her tail all the time!
LOL! Yup – you gotta keep her honest. “Oh, noes! Reality!”
Lol, good job with her! Plus you made me laugh. Thank you. 🙂
This Old Left vs. New Left meme is a good way to red pill the old liberals.
Very useful comparison right there!!!
Great stuff, where did you get it?
I have been having extreme issues for at least 3 months. When I try to read any of Flepore’s postings or Wolf’s my screen freezes and says there is an error and is refreshing. I am not able to get back in. Sometimes, I am able to read DPat’s or Wheatie or BakoCarl’s postings, but can only read a few comments until everything just stops.
In the past 2 weeks, I have had the same issues on other conservative websites. Never on other websites, such as music, gardening, books, etc. it is clear to me that there is an effort being made to shut us down. It really does upset me. I beg The Lord to shut down all the evil ones and save us.
Thanks for that report – very interesting.
What browser are you using?
Same. Fleps postings on my ipad do not mix. Its crashes like crazy and just refreshes again and again.
Had issues on ipad as well with TGP and wolfs site.
I’ve even had wolfs site crash on the main computer.
Could also be your computers RAM. If you don’t have enough your going to have issues.
I was having those troubles and I think I found the culprit.
Both Uboob and Twister are inserting scripts that eat up all the memory/processor time.
To avoid the “lock up” scenario (when memory runs out), I’ve been closing or at least taking out of focus both WP, Uboob, even Gab tabs in my Dissenter browser.
I’ve got a system status window running that allows me to see when memory use goes over 85% and that’s when I starting closing tabs.
Likely that the fraudsters are somehow purposely inserting bad scripting, but incompetence is always in play.
I have noticed problems too.
For a couple days I got pop-ups saying the qtree was not loading fully. When it popped up it stopped everything.
Finally my system crashed. After a re-start it is better but it is starting to get bad again.
I also notice I can scroll thru the comments until I hit a U-Boobtube at which point the computer locks for several seconds even though I have NOT tried to play the U-Boobtube.
My OS is Ubuntu and I am using the Brave Browser.
The Brave “Nightly” browser is great, because it gets looked at nightly by patriots. If the ChiNazis start messing with you, it gets spotted FAST.
The Brave “Nightly” browser has pretty much cured those issues for me. I can have open tabs to YouTube or Twitter and they no longer consume memory. If we get on the Nightly version, they essentially build the browser TO US.
Dissenter is my back-up in case the ChiNazis and their Brennanites get ahead of Brave somehow.
Good to know!
How do I find “ The Q Tree Members” gab chat page? I can get to the Gab page for Q Tree, not gab chat.
Wolf, I PM’d you my email and cell # via gab chat. Please confirm delivery.
I just invited you to the chat – you should see it if you refresh your chat homepage.
Got your message – thanks. Will use if things get dire.
Now Gab is down!!
Now it’s back up.
So far Gab seems to think all tech issues are just known growth problems. They had some disk outages that could have been “centrifuge jobs”, but they didn’t allege anything – just noted that they were unexpected outages.
New member OVERLOAD?
Very likely so, IMO.
Btw, I use an iPad exclusively.
Re: comms if dire…..roger. Use at will.
I’ve done a good job on LIFELOG of not getting blocked. By averting using keywords I’ve been able to get a lot of likes…
I posted “Some more good news with very little reporting 👍😎” with a pic of RED ALASKA – sailed right thru censors – 20 likes, 2 comments.
Carefully worded: “A lot of people say they are leaving on Friday! I’m already there, are you?” Image is “PARLER”. Sailed thru – 24 likes, 25 comments
But anything with a keyword like “1844 Presidential Election” clearly flagged, and I think they are de-boosting those posts b/c much fewer likes/comments.
I’m confident that LIFELOG has RUDIMENTARY OCR on their image processing system.
AND/OR (likely BOTH/AND) lefties are flagging posts for review that earn a tag. Mostly happening to posts that are info that they are disputing.
“BIDEN DEFEATS TRUMP” meme sailed thru.
Parler was very laggy, and I could not log in from a clean device earlier this week – but the next day, I was able to log in and (finally!) complete user verification.
DuckDuckGo for search tried to search pictures of “Michael Flynn” and found some pr0n in the pic feed even though SafeSearch was “strict” – was a little unnerving. A Blogspot blog had not been censored, and someone was playing games with SEO with it, so I assume it wasn’t DDG and was more a fluke than anything else.
I posted the pic of Google search “when is the presidential inauguration” and it says “Wed Jan 20 – Inaugurations of Joe Biden”.
Have not been on Gab much
Twatter is being it’s typical self as far as I can tell – throttled retweeting is the biggest issue I’ve seen there
Thanks! I’m getting a lot of REALLY good information!
No problems with an iphone (poison apple) and Gurgler. I am brand new on Gab, so that may influence the algorithms that are programmed to “harry” us .
Oh crap does it ever end …..
WOW wolfie you keep opening up these huge cans of worms, Will be sharing …
Thanks. I’m especially interested in whether people are getting donations to WinRed on their mobiles.
I made a couple this year…been such a weird year, but I had to mark a couple of Biden emails spam. I have not been around a Democrat sin in at least 12 years.
So am I safe to go take a shower now LOL
or do you have more surprises
Just got through to WinRed.
This morning donated to Sydney.
Got into Gab.
Time permitting, please send a Gab Chat invite. Maybe it’ll work for me if bugs are worked out.
Thanks.
I made a donation on winred a couple days ago on my Mac Air laptop and had no problems.
Good. I think we won’t have many problems from here on out, but in case we do, this thread is now at the TOP of the sidebar permalinks.
I am also rarely able to reply to people.
Do you have a WordPress account (free), or do you enter stuff for every reply using name / email / etc.?
Ok….. tried Gab again……..
Got this message:
Gab.com is under maintenance
Sorry for the inconvenience but we’re performing some maintenance at the moment. We’ll be back online shortly!
— The Team
Cloudflare message:
Bad gateway
The web server reported a bad gateway error.
Tried again……..
Got through.
FWIW
VERY slow populating threads.
Cloudflare essentially is the internet – unless you are a large provider like LIFELOG/Google/Apple/MS/Twatter you are running Cloudflare or another CDN for your web site. That means 90% of all the small/medium/large businesses in the United States rely upon (depend upon) Cloudflare or other CDNs like akamai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network
Codemonkey Ron has a CDN that he recommends b/c he knows the ppl personally but I don’t remember who it is.
Codemonkey Ron is no longer available. He quit 8kun a week or so back.
CodemonkeyZ (Ron) is still on twitter. His last post was 6 hours ago.
Duckduckgo “common public dns servers”
bakocarl.8.8.8 google.com
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=common+public+dns+servers&atb=v227-1&ia=answer&iax=answer
Public DNS Servers
1.1.1.1
1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1 CLOUDFLARE MAY BE CENSORSHIP COMPROMISED
2606:4700:4700::1111
2606:4700:4700::1001
Alternate DNS
198.101.242.72
23.253.163.53
BlockAid Public DNS (or PeerDNS)
205.204.88.60
178.21.23.150
Censurfridns
91.239.100.100
89.233.43.71
2001:67c:28a4::
2002:d596:2a92:1:71:53::
Christoph Hochstätter
209.59.210.167
85.214.117.11
ClaraNet
212.82.225.7
212.82.226.212
Comodo Secure DNS NOT KNOWN TO CENSOR BUT COULD EASILY ADD CENSORED DOMAINS VIA NEW THREAT FEED
8.26.56.26
8.20.247.20
DNS.Watch
84.200.69.80
84.200.70.40
2001:1608:10:25::1c04:b12f
2001:1608:10:25::9249:d69b
DNSReactor
104.236.210.29
45.55.155.25
Dyn
216.146.35.35
216.146.36.36
FDN
80.67.169.12
2001:910:800::12
FoeBud
85.214.73.63
FoolDNS
87.118.111.215
213.187.11.62
FreeDNS
37.235.1.174
37.235.1.177
Freenom World
80.80.80.80
80.80.81.81
German Privacy Foundation e.V.
87.118.100.175
94.75.228.29
85.25.251.254
62.141.58.13
Google Public DNS STRONGLY RECOMMEND AVOIDING GOOGLE DNS IF TRYING TO AVOID CENSORSHIP
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
2001:4860:4860::8888
2001:4860:4860::8844
GreenTeamDNS
81.218.119.11
209.88.198.133
Hurricane Electric
74.82.42.42
2001:470:20::2
Level3 NOT LIKELY TO BOTHER WITH CENSORING DNS…
209.244.0.3
209.244.0.4
Neustar DNS Advantage
156.154.70.1
156.154.71.1
New Nations
5.45.96.220
185.82.22.133
Norton DNS
198.153.192.1
198.153.194.1
OpenDNS NORMALLY GOOD BUT KEEP A HEADS UP
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
2620:0:ccc::2
2620:0:ccd::2
OpenNIC
58.6.115.42
58.6.115.43
119.31.230.42
200.252.98.162
217.79.186.148
81.89.98.6
78.159.101.37
203.167.220.153
82.229.244.191
216.87.84.211
66.244.95.20
207.192.69.155
72.14.189.120
2001:470:8388:2:20e:2eff:fe63:d4a9
2001:470:1f07:38b::1
2001:470:1f10:c6::2001
PowerNS
194.145.226.26
77.220.232.44
Quad9
9.9.9.9
2620:fe::fe
SafeDNS
195.46.39.39
195.46.39.40
SkyDNS
193.58.251.251
SmartViper Public DNS
208.76.50.50
208.76.51.51
ValiDOM
78.46.89.147
88.198.75.145
Verisign
64.6.64.6
64.6.65.6
2620:74:1b::1:1
2620:74:1c::2:2
Xiala.net
77.109.148.136
77.109.148.137
2001:1620:2078:136::
2001:1620:2078:137::
Yandex.DNS
77.88.8.88
77.88.8.2
2a02:6b8::feed:bad
2a02:6b8:0:1::feed:bad
puntCAT
109.69.8.51
2a00:1508:0:4::9
https://www.tummy.com/articles/famous-dns-server/
Level 3
4.2.2.2
DiG Cheat Sheet
https://cmdref.net/os/linux/command/dig.html
https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/how-to-use-the-dig-command-in-linux/
others…
lookups at DNS Server dig @SERVER HOST dig
lookup with trace dig +trace HOST dig +trace google.com
dig +trace -x 173.252.120.6
DiG For Windows is part of the bind download – download here. You do not need to install all bind utils – just unzip and put dig in your path as it is standalone
https://www.isc.org/download/
On Linux just install bind-utils or whatever the equivalent package for your distro
I can’t remember, but I was using Level3 at some point.
DNS of my VPN is serving me the right stuff all the time.
Got on to Gab Chat Q Tree Members……
Left wolf a “Test” message.
Got it – and sent you a line in an old PM we had hanging around.
I found it checking out the PM feature.
(It didn’t just pop-up)
Forgot to mention that I’ve had problems accessing Rantingly (Drudge alternative) all day today. Got that BS Cloudfare “browser check” several times.
Daughter was working on her site, and couldn’t access it with Safari. She changed to Avast browser and had no problem then.
Thanks!!!
Everyone should have a number of browsers loaded and ready to go. My normal browser is Mozilla with a bunch of security extensions. My browser for “slumming it” and allowing the link to be groped by retail (e.g. Amazon) is Brave — it’ll allow Amazon to paw it thoroughly…..but really doesn’t know much (e.g. about contacts, bookmarks, or recent browsing history) because I only use it when I want to order off of Amazon. I have a super-lightweight browser (Midori) that I use — on a different computer — only to access banks and brokers. Since it doesn’t connect to anyone else, it doesn’t need much security…..and I have keyfobs for logging in. It’s also handy in that someone could compromise that computer through the browser and get almost nothing. It has no contacts, it has no passwords, it has no compromising data…. Finally, you should probably have a Chrome-flavored browser (I’m using Chromium, which is supposedly de-Googled) to get the official standard view. I don’t use it often enough to worry, but I’ll probably move to a containerized version when I get around to it.
For all the tales of “hacking” and having something on the internet randomly find you…..the great majority (and we’re talking 90%+) of malware comes in via browser pages or email.
Win 7, use brave, firefox, also have white hat (Son put it on) and avast although I don’t care much for the last 2. Maybe I should re-consider.
In Firefox, you need NoScript, AdBlock Plus, CanvasBlocker, HTTPS Everywhere, and Privacy Badger.
I just use firefox for looky-looing mostly.
You should definitely have “shields-up” for looky-looing, which is why I use Firefox with the above plug-ins. Back a few years, ALL the major ad networks were caught dumping malware ads, which is why I fail to GAS when sites ask me to whitelist ads on them. Further, I am EXTREMELY suspicious when random people want to run opaque programs on my computer, which is why I run NoScript.
Brave is more secure from the get-go but can be used on amazon or other places that break security.
Another fun option is just to use a separate computer for looky-looing, and do it in TAILS. TAILS is designed to be “amnesiac” — it forgets everything it’s done every time you turn it off, and wakes up thinking it’s Groundhog Day.
WELL SONOFABITCH!
😀
Here’s the “Biden version” of what just happened.
“I said, ‘I’m telling you, Mitch is not getting his 45 dollars.’ I said, ‘He’s not getting his 45 dollars. I’m going to be going to bed in,’ I think it was about an hour. I looked at my computer and said: ‘I’m going to bed in an hour. If the iPhone is not working, Mitch is not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. [Laughter.] It got fixed. And they put in place some software that was solid at the time.”
LOLOL
Twitter has been extremely slow in loading. The page freezes a lot and I have to close out and open a new tab.
Gab is fine.
Parler has been a nightmare. I think I have like 3 accounts because I can never get logged in again if I close the tab. I cannot change a profile picture, etc. Just a bummer.
Thanks! Yes – Parler is – SIGH – yeah.
Interesting……
HAVE FAITH – Hundreds of Pro-Trump IT Volunteers Are Scouring Voter Data – Already Nearly 300,000 Vote Discrepancies Were Identified in Pennsylvania Alone
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/faith-hundreds-pro-trump-volunteers-scouring-voter-data-already-nearly-300000-vote-discrepancies-identified-pennsylvania-alone/
This is wonderful stuff. WE LOVE HIM! <3
The link for donating to https://ldfftar.org/ , Sydney Powell’s page works. I just gave a token donation to see if it worked and it did.
Good! Very reassuring!
I think I left a message on Gab, dif pic, name @baam (cause I messed up!) but still same user name.
Same cat.
Maybe let team Trump know something is up?
Oh and when I’m on my ipad I can’t see the tweets. And twitter is SOOOOOO slow.
Where are we backing up to on Gab?
The Q tree in general Gab.
Gab chat a couple. Primary and a back up or two as I recall. None of which I recall the name, or can access. Techie issues on the latter. Many or most can, have gotten in.
Ok thanks. I’m not really into the media but I’ll keep this in mind
Gab wise, slow guy is befuddled. If SHTF with QTree here, I’ll have all day to figure out Gab.
That’s the optimistic way to look at it. 🙂
If you are on Gab, you can join our publicly visible discussion group here:
https://gab.com/groups/4178
To get onto the private chat group you have to have an invitation from Wolf.
https://chat.gab.com
More info here: https://gab.com/thinkthinkthink/posts/105172599347594079
Yes – you can get INTO the chat server on your own, and you can PM me there easily (or just talk to me on “The Q Tree” Gab group, but you have to let me know you’re on there to get invited to “The Q Tree Members” chat group.
Our group:
https://gab.com/groups/4178
That may just be a temporary holding spot, for finding a new blog home, should it be necessary.
Thanks I bookmarked it.
So far, I haven’t had the problems with Gab that others are describing.
*knocks on wood*
Except…I still cannot get into Gab Chat.
Suspect it’s a browser problem.
I use a pc.
Ever since I read about CrowdStrike, I’ve understood that Goog employs dark web hackers.
Since CS went public…I would imagine that some of that ‘talent’ has been deployed elsewhere.
😉
Now we find out, according to whistleblowers, that BLM/Antifa operatives have been put to work in the Dem’s vote fraud activities.
So this is why they haven’t been out on the streets causing chaos.
Not sure if you’ve tried the Brave “Nightly” version (it’s basically fast-fixed freedom-side Chrome), but that will definitely work for Gab chat and it’s solid on security. There are EYES ON in the shop.
Nope, haven’t tried Brave…but I may have to, to be able to access G-chat.
No problem reaching WinRed on a PC using Firefox browser and Dissenter browser: https://secure.winred.com/djt/finance-team-daily-goal
.
“I’m getting rumors from trusted people that major social media sites will hit their kill switch when team Trump reveals all the election fraud.”
______________
Imagine the blessed peace and quiet, as not just our comms are silenced, but the atomic fire hydrant of enemy propaganda is likewise silenced.
But Gab has their own infrastructure, separate and apart from Big-Enemy-Tech, for exactly this reason, don’t they?
So at that point, Patriots can all meet at Gab, and if any of the enemy wants to find out what’s going on, they have to deal with US on OUR TERMS.
They will have ZERO protection from having their idiocy challenged, ridiculed and nuked.
And they won’t last for long 😂🤣😂
The leftists may not realize it now, but if they bring down Gab, that may be “the spark”.
Hubby tried to donate to Winred several times and it did not work. He also tried Sydney’s and that DID work. However it was just after it was set up.
Thanks! That sounds like part of reality. I’m betting the interference with WinRed is altered randomly in time and space so that it does not appear to be anything but a technical issue.