Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:
…..and YEAH, they’re SWEATING NOW!
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But that’s okay! We’ve been REJUVENATED BY VICTORY!
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil. We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.
If you want to have a two-way tirade, there’s always The U Tree.
And if you find yourself locked out, please drop a message on The Q Tree Backup.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Please pray for our real President, the one who actually won the election:
Gotta say – REALFLOTUS looks SHARP no matter what the occasion!
Having passed Halloween, All Saints Day and All Souls Day, as well as the various oddball Aztec morphs thereof……
……we now approach the next major holiday of consequence…..
Whoops! That’s a little later. Let’s try that again…..
Whoops! Too early. One more try…..
THERE we go! Yeah, I absolutely love this image, so I’m warmin’ y’all up!
So what are we going to do for Thanksgiving warm-up music?
First, let’s lighten the mood!
OMG, I can’t watch that twice. No wonder children are becoming Tik-Tok zombies.
Let’s try something a LITTLE BIT more mature……
NOPE! Not mature enough for DA WOOF. Let’s add a few years.
Thanksgiving Eve electronica in Brooklyn (probably highly unvaccinated) not working for you?
Doesn’t look like much senior seating there. Think I’m stayin’ home.
Hmmmmmm……
Yeah, that’s a bit too commercial for this boy.
OK – time to get serious!
ARE WE THUS THANKFUL?
AMEN!
But remember this…..
Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
It sucks and there are new outrages each day.
Good GRIEF! Make it END!
And after that first drink, we can pour another..…
…..or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
SOME GAVE ALL.
Will WE be part of the AVALANCHE?
YOU KNOW THE TRUTH.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And WE will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Day:
cankle
cankle is a noun which means…
a wide or thick ankle that appears indistinguishable from the lower calf. Plural: cankles
Used in a sentence:
So, is this movie [Definitely, Maybe] a big wet kiss to Hillary, reminding us of her husband doing her wrong and trying to evoke sympathy for her (she’s not mentioned or shown in the movie)? Or is it a reminder of what we’ll get more of from wanna-be First Lady Bill Clinton in a future Hillary Rodham Cankles White House? SOURCE
https://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/003388print.html, 2008
Used in a picture:
And that would be called….
“Dodging a bullet.” (idiom)
W2/wm
“There’s a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.”
–William Wallace
Another GREAT Monday post, Wolf!!!
Thanks! I tell you, though – it was not trivial to prepare, and I have thus been reminded to maintain great respect for our daily thread authors!
Very Wheatie-like. Thank you. Hope she is okay.
Me too. I think she’s OK, but I’m not sure about her computer.
I miss W2!!! I’m gonna have to drive to OK, aren’t I???
‘Parently, they ain’t gots no skippy puter pair people round dem parts!!’ 🙄 🙄
Hey Miss Wheatie, what ya cooking for Turkey Day?? 😜 Can I bring something?? 😁
ROADTRIP!! 🤸♀️🤸♀️🤸♀️
Gosh that would be so fun. I think about that sometimes…if we could have a real campfire it would be a blast, laughs, prayers, serious talks, more laughs, everyone’s puppers running around.
I had been hoping for a big party at the Trump 2021 inauguration.
STOLEN from us.
Maybe we could get Joe Dan (Frogslegs) to reserve a table for Treepers at his fall Shindig next year before the 2022 elections.
Just your specialty please:
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Thanks for the reminder TIM!!! 🥰
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Miss Wheatie, WE GOT THIS!!! 😋🤸♀️😋
DROOOOooool…🤗
So do I 🙁
Miss Wheatie
You are NOT making me want to tackle my first article with THAT COMMENT Wolfie!
Remember I am ‘computer challenged’
Graphics and videos are the rougher part of posts. You tend to be low on images and videos. Likely much easier for you. But you have to learn by doing – it’s the only way!
GRUMBLE… 
This Monday article IS a great one! Ashli Babbitt’s picture appreciated bigly. As with J6 Political Prisoners, we can’t forget Ashli.
Thank you! And AMEN! We will not forget them!
W2/WM❣❣❣
🤸♀️ ❤ 🤸♀️ ❤ 🤸♀️
The area above “Yeah, that’s a bit too commercial for this boy.” is blank for me.
That one is a VIMEO video, embedded by WordPress. It should be similar to the YouTube embeddings, but maybe on your system it’s not – or it simply takes longer to load a preview.
That explains it. Vimeo is not just passively stomped, it’s affirmatively stomped (tries to pull in too many OTHER, non-vetted things).
Right after the polar bear my page was all blank. After waiting a while I get to see the head turning puppy doggies, the baby effalant, and the wolf baby. ❤❤❤ The wait is definitely worth it!! ☺☺☺
Yes! We use lazy loading on images, so that people who are mostly looking at and refreshing comments don’t have to load all the gifs. I really pushed the graphics with this post, so it’s extra lazy!
WE GIVE THANKS TO YOU, DEAR LORD, for ensuring that we Dodged the CANKLES bullet!! We Love You and are Forever Grateful to You for it, in Jesus’ Name, Amen.🥰🥰🥰
AMEN!!!
Last week I asked if the polar bear ever got where he’s going. Well, …
LOL! Looks relaxing!
Monday wore him out so bad he can’t make it up the step, Poor Baby.
Did the lords of wewillcontrolyou have DST in the tundra early?
In that first pic, Melania looks ike a Barbie doll that came to life.
Yes, she’s definitely doing the supermodel thing. Trump also looks much more “tycoon” there than usual, for some reason. I get a real feeling of “We’re OUTTA here!” from that set of photos.
They’re so classy.
I miss REALFLOTUS!!!
AMEN!!!
Melania doesn’t have to ‘do’, she simply just ‘is’.
Always.Breathtakingly.Gorgeous.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a ‘bad’ picture of her.
45’s a very blessed man. 😉
A great couple!
Here is CodeMonkeyZ’s take on the raid on Project Veritas. I’m not sure…
Ron Watkins [CodeMonkeyZ] https://t.me/s/codemonkeyz
Here he shows an excerpt from Ashley Biden’s diary that mentions “showers with my dad.”
Yeah. That popped into my mind, too.
He pooped on the Pope and farted on Camilla.
Enough is enough! 😉🤣
OMG – now we know who the REAL “pee tapes” are all about! 😉
Duchess of Cornwall on Biden Farting at Climate Summit — ‘Long and Loud and Impossible to Ignore’ (thegatewaypundit.com)
OMG. This just gets worse! LMAO!!!
Make it stop!
Just as long as he doesn’t pull a Toobin….
LOL!
I’d think showering with your daughter is kinda way up there and past pulling a Toobin.
If double vaxxx’d red jen doesn’t show back up to work tomorrow her knowledge of this might compete with her succumbing to CV as far as speculation is concerned. The WH obviously green lighted or directed the Veritas raids in advance and she’d likely be privy to the discussions on that. Might of been a bridge too far her? But then again she’s a commie through and through and commies have zero morals, what am I even thinking….
Fartacus into Sharticus!
I almost have to applaud Biden for gassing all of the globalists…best thing he has done since being in the WH. 😂
or at least in her general direction! 😉
Well I think the Not Pope probably deserves it IMO LOL
🤔🤔🤔
That’s actually a smart thought. Why? Compare it with THIS post by Sundance:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/11/07/critical-to-understanding-where-durham-is-going-ratcliffe-highlights-the-august-2016-white-house-discussion-team-clinton-compromising-team-obama/
Sundance is putting Durham in the context of Team Obama having discovered that Team Clinton was putting the Obama administration at risk with their shenanigans. Sundance predicts that nobody on or near Team Obama will be touched by Durham, but everybody else, watch out. SD even shows how Barr created leverage and control over Durham, so that Team Obama (Biden) can remove Durham at any time.
So here is what I’m thinking.
Team Clinton has figured out that Team Obama is leveraging them using Durham. They do not TRUST that Durham won’t stop with just non-Clintons, non-FBI, and non-government people.
SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR COUNTER-LEVERAGE.
FBI is definitely WAY more “Team Clinton” than they are “Team Obama” or “Team Pelosi”.
Wray has leverage on Pelosi via her old man’s file.
Now Wray needs leverage on Biden to force Obama to make sure Durham does not touch the Clintons or FIB.
Complicated.
Complicated, yes. I had to read that last part several times.
SD “knows” that Obama has control over Durham? He thinks Biden can force O to keep Durham from touching the Cintons or FIB? Alternatively, he thinks having leverage on Biden in and of itself would force O to make sure Durham does not touch the Clintons or FIB?
I’ve read that it would be very hard to get rid of Durham, that the AG is the only one with that authority (not a POTUS), and that there has to be serious cause. SD apparently thinks Barr set Durham up so he could be fired because the special counsel is supposed to come from outside the US government, but Durham was a US attorney for the District of Connecticut. We’ll see. SD presents his opinions and speculations as if they are fact.
A lot of those are MY speculations – some of which extend past what Sundance is willing to say. SD is not as strong as me in saying that Obama has effective control over this government, and is the one directing Biden’s positioning on things. I am now certain that Obama is the one in control.
Does he have control of Durham? I think he has an auto-destruct on the investigation, and is willing to use it.
I look at it all as power plays – NOT as done deals, because that is the nature of war. Leverage and advantage CHANGE – and sometimes very unexpectedly.
Obama may have control – but that could change in an instant.
I think Wray would not go after Biden unless he had to. But if Durham indicts a bunch of FBI, I would be very surprised, and expect some kind of massive “event” to either follow or precede the indictments.
Yes, but you don’t presentt your speculations as facts, and I am more inclined to entertain them for that reason. The delineation is clear.
I agree with this. He never went away and even set up an office near the WH.
Game theory. Things change, and strategies have to change accordingly. So do theories of the case.
Very possibly. Peter Strzok seems to be pretty confident.
John Solomon thinks Durham’s people are looking at the FBI.
Real? Clickbait? Hmmmmmm……
https://tv.gab.com/channel/redvoicemedia/view/durham-will-go-after-fbi-next-61881e104dc37d82fa77ec76
John Solomon is one of the reporters who is usually spot on. That said, we KNOW the commies use sleepers. People who wear perfect camouflage to suck people in to trusting them before the BIG betrayal(s). For example Dan Rather was a KGB asset and used to trash Bush.
EconoChick said Solomon was being fed info from POTUS. Given the Fake News would NOT PUBLISH, that seems reasonable ESPECIALLY since Solomon LEFT the Fake News and started his own news service.
Soloman HAS the ability to effectively “publish” via any number of means. Gab, Getter, email blasts, on and on.
IF Soloman WAS given all the goods, wonder what is holding him back. Wonder how secure those goods are, AND IF he has duplicates stashed somewhere.
This story is not over.
I continue to believe 100% transparency WILL LEAD to SOLUTIONS fitting The Constitution, Law & Order….
The information maybe being fed to Soloman piece meal depending on the situation. That allows POTUS control of the release.
I thought PS was CIA on loan to FIB, or something?
He is according to Col Mills. So the CIA sends a memo TO ITSELF as a CYA, KNOWING Strzok HATES Trump and will put it in the ’round file’
Yep 😠
The entire Sundance post and comment thread was very interesting.
In the thread, someone posted a Gab link to another very interesting person. The linked Gabber thinks that Barr and Durham are straight shooters, and sees the Danchenko indictment as highly significant. She also believes that higher ups will not be indicted but for very different reasons than usually given (the laws are weak).
And she has an entirely unique take which is HIGHLY plausible and HIGHLY hopeful:
https://gab.com/ECONCHICKINTELCHICK
Use to follow and interact w/her on Twit a lot before she was banned. Very knowledgeable, constantly tears into Gov’t Officials and Military Brass, deservedly. Some times she toots her own horn too much. Recently found and reconnected w/her on Gab and GETTR. When she’s right (quite often), she’s right. When she’s wrong, well……. She truly believes she and friends outed Code Monkey as ‘Q’ last March. 🙄🙄🙄 She’s also a Fox News junkie, refuses to quit them.😕☹😞 Oh well, take the good, leave the bad.
Good to know! Getting different povs is a good thing.
Here is a copy and paste of EconoChick on Durham.
I had a tough time following it so I tried to make it easier for Treepers.
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I’ve spent the past 11 years on social media getting it right as I did last night. As my long time followers will tell you, it’s about a 97% accuracy rate.
That’s why everywhere I go I’m banned so my voice is removed.
But don’t worry; it never stops me.
As I’ve posted many times, I’m not here to be liked.
And I’m about to piss many of you off.
If you were on the anti-BARR train, you were listening to idiots.
And I’m talking humongous names you’d think would know better when it comes to this particular topic. Like Judge Jeannine for starters.
Be more discerning in the future. If the person has no high level DOJ experience, or no intelligence experience, or Swamp insight, or has had to manage one of those grotesque Federal Agencies, why the hell did you listen to them in the first place?
By the way, my beloved Trump doesn’t check any of those boxes either.
End Rant.
Love my followers. You folks are the most discerning people on the internet. But pay attention to who got this wrong. Most did.
HERE’S WHAT I CAN PROMISE ALL OF YOU.
MAKE A COPY OF THIS POST AND HOLD ME TO IT.
WHEN WE TAKE BACK ALL OF CONGRESS NEXT YEAR, DURHAM INVESTIGATIONS WILL HAVE CAUSED SO MUCH UPROAR THAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE CANDIDATES PROMISING TO CHANGE THE WEAK INTELLIGENCE LAWS THAT WILL ALLOW COMEY, BRENNAN, ET. AL, TO BE UNSCATHED IN THE RUSSIA HOAX.
NOT BECAUSE OF DOJ. BUT BECAUSE THE CURRENT LAWS WON’T HOLD UP. THEY ARE THAT WEAK. THEY CAN ONLY BE FIXED IN THE CONGRESS.
I promise you it won’t be futile.
One thing I can guarantee you will come of this at a minimum is with Durham flood gates opening now, there will be a push in Congress next year when we take both Houses back to CHANGE THE INTELLIGENCE LAWS.
I GUARANTEE IT.
I have expertise in this area no pundits or commentators have had for past 5 years.
You can take it to the bank though.
LET ME SAY IT AGAIN FOR THOSE WITH SHORT ATTENTION SPANS.
TODAY’S DURHAM INDICTMENT (HIS THIRD) OPENED THE FLOOD GATES.
THERE’S NO STUFFING KETCHUP BACK IN THE BOTTLE NOW.
I CAN NOT TELL YOU HOW MANY BIG NAMES FOUGHT WITH ME ON TWITTER (FOR 4 YEARS) ABOUT RUSSIA HOAX INVESTIGATIONS, WHO SAID DURHAM AND HIS INVESTIGATIONS WENT POOF IN 2020. MANY SAID IT WASN’T REAL IN THE FIRST PLACE.
TODAY PROVES THEY WERE ABSOLUTE IDIOTS MISLEADING ALL OF YOU.
UNFORTUNATELY TRUMP WAS LISTENING TO THE SAME IDIOTS.
TRUMP IS NOW GRASPING WHAT WAS GOING ON. HE HAD TO BE KEPT IN THE DARK FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE INVESTIGATION.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAD 200-500,000 FOLLOWERS AND MORE.
WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO WAKE UP ABOUT THESE PHONY SOURCES?
IF YOU’RE NOT EXCITED BY TODAY’S SEISMIC BOOM FROM JOHN DURHAM, YOU’VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE WRONG PEOPLE THE WHOLE TIME.
If you’ve ever read my posts over past 11 years across the internet, my words are always very measured.
And trust me when I say I’m being measured, but I would like to see the Department of Justice dismantled.
I’ve had family who worked there over the years, and they have many friends who did as well.
It’s 90% a Liberal Cesspool (liberal lawyers).
And frankly, I’ve had enough of them.
In case you missed it, I did extensive DURHAM analysis last night.
Each post even has numbers…… 🙂
BREAKING.
You folks have heard me say many times that you just have to be patient with Durham…. that he hasn’t gone away.
Well…Special Counsel John Durham is “expected” to indict Clinton Campaign/DNC lawyer Michael Sussman very soon.
And this is just the beginning.
BREAKING NEWS. Sept 15
Durham investigation (Russia Hoax) gaining steam.
Third person (Danchenko) indicted strongly traced back to Hillary campaign.
BREAKING NEWS. Sept 16th
AS IN THIS IS HUGE!
JUST SAW DEVIN NUNES INTERVIEWED BY GREG KELLY ABOUT DURHAM INDICTMENT.
LET ME GET TO SUMMARY – NUNES, WHOM I CONSIDER THE TOP EXPERT ON TOPIC, SAID FOLLOWING QUOTE:
“DURHAM GOT TO THE BOTTOM OF RUSSIA HOAX.” “THIS WAS A SLAM DUNK.”
No one can read between the lines of indictment better than Nunes . I’ll attempt to drill down in coming posts.
You folks have heard me say many times that you just have to be patient with Durham…. that he hasn’t gone away.
Well…Special Counsel John Durham is “expected” to indict Clinton Campaign/DNC lawyer Michael Sussman very soon.
And this is just the beginning.
As my long time followers know, I used to get hammered badly on Twitter for telling people to hang in there, to have trust in Durham and Barr.
Some of you know how much I was laughed at for years, LOL.
So when I read the Sussman indictment, I just figured it was part of the slow progress, and didn’t see anything special.
BUT AFTER HEARING NUNES AND SOLOMON JUST NOW TELL US WHAT THAT INDICTMENT ACTUALLY MEANT, I PRACTICALLY FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR. I’m trying to relay why, so bear with me…..
When Devin Nunes tells us Durham worked so long and hard at making this indictment stick that it was a SLAM DUNK, it’s because Durham was able to not only prove but CONVINCE A GRAND JURY that THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN CONSPIRED TO MISLEAD FBI INTO BELIEVING TRUMP IN CAHOOTS WITH RUSSIA, AND SUCCESSFULLY WEAPONIZED THE FBI AGAINST TRUMP.
IN OTHER WORDS,
SUSSMAN WASN’T JUST SOME LOW LEVEL CLINTON ASSOCIATE.
DURHAM CONVINCED A GRAND JURY THAT SUSSMAN WAS DIRECTLY TIED TO AND REPRESENTING THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN WHEN HE PURPOSELY CONSPIRED TO MISLEAD THE FBI…..AND SUCCESSFULLY WEAPONIZED FBI AGAINST TRUMP.
GUYS. IT DOESN’T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS!
Guys, don’t make the mistake of assuming I’m saying this is the finale.
It’s just the opposite.
The flood gates have finally opened up. There will be more steps, but this step is huge.
AGAIN. Durham was able to get an entire Grand Jury from a mostly Democrat area to agree Clinton campaign used Sussman to mislead FBI.
IT’S NOW IN WRITING THAT CLINTON CAMPAIGN ENGAGED IN A CONSPIRACY. It’s like planting a small wild weed that’s about to take off.
This link below is a member of mainstream media having to admit Clinton campaign conspired to weaponize FBI against Trump.
The dam has broken.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/durham-probe-attorney-clinton-campaign/
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After Nunes dropped his huge news on Greg Kelly that we now have the foothold (Durham indictment) we’ve been working to get for 4 years, just minutes later John Solomon showed up on Stinch’s show to admit to all of us Trump brought him to White House in January AND TOLD JOHN HE WAS ABOUT TO HAND ALL THE DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS OVER TO SOLOMON TO RELAY TO THE PUBLIC.
Now…..Solomon’s info had numerous angles to it….which I don’t have time to get into…..but for now, realize Trump was passing all those declassifed documents to John Solomon within 24 hours…….expecting John to print for the public.
He was held up….long story….but know that soon those documents will come out too.
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DURHAM IS DELIVERING.
THAT MEANS BARR DELIVERED.
JUST LIKE I’VE BEEN TELLING EVERYONE FOR YEARS.
DURHAM ALERT> (Sept 30)
Today John Durham issued a new set of subpoenas, indicating that Durham is trying to build a broader criminal case.
One of those subpoenas went to JRodney Joffe, a cybersecurity expert referred to in Durham’s indictment as “Tech Executive-1.” In 2016 Joffe, worked with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Sussmann took to the FBI.
DURHAM ALERT >#2
Durham continues to use the Federal Grand Jury in DC, and continues to convince DC residents potential crimes have been committed.
Today he subpoenaed Rodney Joffe and others.
Durham’s new subpoenas will lead to a court fight over privileged information and draw more about the Clinton campaign into the open.
DURHAM POST #3 of 10.
LOTS OF FUN DETAILS ABOUT TODAY’S THIRD DURHAM INDICTMENT.
BUT LET’S GET TO BIGGEST TAKEAWAY:
WHILE WE ALL KNEW TRUMP WAS EXONERATED LONG TIME AGO, THIS LEVEL OF INVESTIGATION USING GRAND JURIES THAT CONSIST OF DC DEMOCRAT RESIDENTS SHOWS THIS STORY WILL EVENTUALLY BE FORCED INTO MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
DOESN’T MEAN HILLARY WILL GO TO JAIL. SHE WON’T. BUT IT MEANS MEDIA’S CENSORSHIP OF STORY TO GENERAL PUBLIC WILL BEGIN TO CRACK. THE DAM WILL BREAK AND AVERAGE AMERICANS WHO HERETOFORE WERE SHELTERED FROM INFORMATION WILL BECOME APPALLED.
THIS THANKSGIVING YOU’RE GONNA HAVE LOTS TO TELL YOUR LIBERAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS ABOUT DURHAM’S INVESTIGATION.
MAKE SURE YOU START TO BUILD THAT HUGE STACK OF FACTS.
IT’S GETTING FUN NOW.
AFTER DURHAM’S THIRD INDICTMENT YESTERDAY, WASHINGTON POST TODAY ADMITS IT’S PAST REPORTING ON RUSSIA HOAX WAS IN ERROR.
THIS….
THIS IS WHAT MATTERS MUCH MORE THAN WHO’S GOING TO PRISON.
WE NEED TO FORCE PRESS TO REMOVE THAT VEIL OF CENSORSHIP THEY’VE HAD FOR 5 YEARS, AND THAT HAS BEGUN…..
But back to the BIG news – Durham’s latest indictment yesterday was SEISMIC.
I posted about it for hours last night.
It’s already having a profound impact on the press.
This morning Washington Post actually ADMITTED THEIR PAST REPORTING WAS WRONG ABOUT RUSSIA HOAX.
Folks need to start paying close attention as the pendulum starts to ROCK in the opposite direction…..
DURHAM POST #3 of 10.
LOTS OF FUN DETAILS ABOUT TODAY’S THIRD DURHAM INDICTMENT.
BUT LET’S GET TO BIGGEST TAKEAWAY:
WHILE WE ALL KNEW TRUMP WAS EXONERATED LONG TIME AGO, THIS LEVEL OF INVESTIGATION USING GRAND JURIES THAT CONSIST OF DC DEMOCRAT RESIDENTS SHOWS THIS STORY WILL EVENTUALLY BE FORCED INTO MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
DOESN’T MEAN HILLARY WILL GO TO JAIL. SHE WON’T. BUT IT MEANS MEDIA’S CENSORSHIP OF STORY TO GENERAL PUBLIC WILL BEGIN TO CRACK. THE DAM WILL BREAK AND AVERAGE AMERICANS WHO HERETOFORE WERE SHELTERED FROM INFORMATION WILL BECOME APPALLED.
DURHAM POST #4 of 10.
Durham is cleverly building mosaic that connects Danshenko to PR EXECUTIVE 1, who was a Democrat Confidante to Hillary Campaign named Dolan. Indictment says both Dolan and Danschenko conspired to lie to the FBI about false Trump information.
I highly suggest you get your hands on the Indictment.
It’s not the usual legal mumbo jumbo. You can clearly see how they conspired and how it infected the FBI.
Quite entertaining actually, LOL.
Durham has them by the short hairs.
DURHAM POST #5 of 10.
Durham’s indictment today charges that Danchenko lied when he told FBI agents he had never communicated with Charles Dolan Jr. (Confidante from Hillary Campaign) about allegations in Steele’s reports, when in fact Danchenko had sourced at least one of those allegations meant to mislead FBI to Dolan.
Oops, LOL.
Dolan’s name isn’t used in the indictment but Dolan’s lawyer confirms it’s HIM.
DURHAM POST #6 of 10.
TODAY MAINSTREAM MEDIA FINALLY FORCED TO PUBLICIZE THESE GROWING INDICTMENTS. THEY CAN NO LONGER CENSOR IT.
LIBERAL CNBC TITLE. Durham probe: Analyst charged with lying to FBI about Christopher Steele’s Trump-Russia dossier
NEW YORK TIMES: Authorities Arrest Analyst Who Contributed to Steele Dossier
AP NEWS: Analyst who aided Trump-Russia dossier charged
WASHINGTON POST AND ALL THE REST ARE COMPELLED TO REPORT IT TOO….
DURHAM POST #7 of 10.
Let me give the same unique perspective I’ve been giving since Dec 2016.
No big fish are going to jail. They won’t even be indicted. As I’ve said since 2016, only 2-3 lower level players will be convicted and punished.
As I urged people to realize since 2016, no one’s going to GITMO.
Folks need to lower their expectations that were raised by the worse kind of Grifters, and realize what we should REALISTICALLY expect out of this investigation.
What we want to see from Durham’s efforts is that Mainstream Media finally forced to stop censoring the entire Spygate story, so that average Americans finally become appalled like we Patriots are with how Federal Law Enforcement was manipulated to spy on and hurt a Democratically elected President.
We also want CURRENT INTELLIGENCE LAWS COMPLETELY TIGHTENED IN CONGRESS.
Folks need to stop expecting JAILINGS OF REAL CULPRITS. THAT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
DURHAM POST #8 of 10
As I said in an earlier Durham post, today’s indictment is SEISMIC for many reasons but here’s one of the NEW PIECES of information not made official till today.
NOT ONLY DID CLINTON CAMPAIGN OPERATIVES FUND THE FAKE DOSSIER, THEY ALSO WROTE IT.
DURHAM POST #9 of 10
THIS IS GOING TO PISS OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE MISLED BY MANY GRIFTERS AND OTHER “KNOW-NOTHINGS” WHO MISLED TRUMP AS WELL…..
……..BUT THIS NOT ONLY TOTALLY VINDICATES DURHAM BUT BILL BARR AS WELL.
IT USED TO TORK ME OFF LISTENING TO JUDGE JEANNINE AND MANY BIG NAMES GET THIS STUFF WRONG.
DURHAM POST #10 of 10
AS I PROMISED FOR YEARS, BILL BARR AND JOHN DURHAM WOULD GET TO THE TRUTH AND MAKE SURE ALL AMERICANS FINALLY KNEW IT.
THE DAMN BROKE TODAY WITH THIS THIRD INDICTMENT.
NOW LET’S SLAM THE PRESS AS HARD AS WE CAN FOR THEIR FIVE YEARS OF CENSORSHIP.
EVEN THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO REPORT TODAY’S NEWS.
DURHAM POST #11
WE’VE ALL BANDIED ABOUT FIONA HILL’S NAME FOR SOME TIME BUT THIS INDICTMENT GETS US EVEN CLOSER.
INDICTMENT REVEALS SOURCE WAS NOT A MID LEVEL RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION OPERATIVE BUT FOR FIRST TIME SHOWS DURHAM KNOWS IT WAS A HIGH LEVEL HILLARY CLINTON OPERATIVE.
THIS IS WHERE IT GETS FUN. DURHAM’S CLEARLY GOT DEMS BY THE SHORT HAIRS AND THEY’RE ALL SINGING.
HOLD ON FOR THE NEXT DROP FROM DURHAM.
@ECONCHICKINTELCHICK “…Durham likely has Strzok and Page cooperating because he’s trying to get McCabe. Forget about Comey and Clinton, that’s a pipedream.”
https://rumble.com/vnlx0j-trump-dod-chief-durham-outlining-mob-style-conspiracy.html
https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-durham-indictment-shows-clinton-likely-worked-with-top-google-exec-to-fabricate-russia-hoax-says-google-whistleblower/
Great news. IF all true.
BUT, not content withOUT big FISH prosecuted, convicted, jailed…
The fact she is saying the intel laws are DELIBERATELY WEAK so people like John Kerry and the Clintons can skate rings true… unfortunately. After all our laws have been written by lawyers working for the Cabal for over a century!
Fully agree. Simply not content.
Justice
canwill be meted out separately. This life or not, OR both. 🙂But the bastids gotta pay.
Agree.
We will see exactly how deeply guilty these many people are.
We will see that they ALL knew the truth and lied to us for 5 years and counting. They continue to lie. The DoJ, FBI, Congress, MSM … everyone!
We will also see that nothing will happen to them because the laws suck.
We must be shown. Then we will act.
OHHhhhhh…
Now this is interesting.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
Has been removed.
but it was archived:
Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election
[QUOTE]
“….Sec. 2. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security:
(i) to have directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in a United States election;
(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity described in subsection (a)(i) of this section or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or
(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property or interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.
(b) Executive Order 13694 of April 1, 2015, as amended by Executive Order 13757 of December 28, 2016, remains in effect. This order is not intended to, and does not, serve to limit the Secretary of the Treasury’s discretion to exercise the authorities provided in Executive Order 13694. Where appropriate, the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Attorney General and the Secretary of State, may exercise the authorities described in Executive Order 13694 or other authorities in conjunction with the Secretary of the Treasury’s exercise of authorities provided in this order….
[UNQUOTE]
I am no lawyer but that may have some major STINGS to it.
Perhaps hussein’s staff drafted an EO for BiteMe to DISCREETLY sign, cancelling Trump’s EO. BiteMe’s EO NOT publicly released.
Could be.
I am no lawyer but I wonder if a crime was committed at the time that E.O was in force, whether it would stand. ESPECIALLY if Biden et al were part of the criminal enterprise AND the election is over turned.
Both of those dates appear to be during aka BHO’s Usurpation. Dec 2016 Trump was President Elect so couldn’t legally issue Executive Orders (assuming the Executive unilaterally creating “law” is even legal)…
Gail, TY again for your yeoman’s work and ongoing, encyclopedic information posts.
Valerie & Tonawanda,
No problem. When I went to look at the info I realized it was all over the place and hard to access so I just copied it to an word processor in libra office.
You absolutely continue to ROCK!!! Thx 🙂
Thanks for pulling that all together!!!
Other interesting stuff from EconoChick
Buh Bye, Terry McAuliffe.
The Clinton era is officially over.
And the era ended with a thump.
Can I call em or what?
Now you know why the military elevated me to highest levels of intelligence.
Too many people in positions responsible for seeing things before they happen have zero math skills.
That’s 100% of the media, and many in our government. And about 98% of “experts” you see on TV.
Many Patriots trained themselves up on how to be an election official. This also helped our efforts last night.
Next year Patriots will be 100 times more prepared than 2020.
I have a few cynics who show up to my account who insist only thing that will change America is a violent revolt.
Please. Grow the hell up.
TRUTH CAUSES DIVISION BETWEEN THE INFORMED AND THE UNINFORMED.
DON’T FEEL GUILTY ABOUT BEING INFORMED.
EVEN IF IT CAUSES FRICTION WITH FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND CO-WORKERS.
WITH THE DURHAM FLOODGATES NOW OPENING, EXPECT A LOT OF FRICTION AS AVERAGE AMERICANS FIND OUT FOR FIRST TIME THAT FBI SPIED ILLEGALLY ON A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT.
MANY WILL BE APPALLED. SOME WILL BE OFFENDED BY TRUTH.
THERE IS A HUGE APPETITE FOR TRUTH BY NON-POLITICAL AMERICANS.
YOU WITNESSED THAT THIS TUESDAY.
PERFECT TIMING FOR DURHAM’S BOMBSHELL INDICTMENT YESTERDAY.
THEY’RE GONNA BE “ALL EARS.”
Winsome & Levin:
https://rumble.com/vojzt9-winsome-sears-life-liberty-and-mark-levin.html
She says this:
True? Idk. Interesting about Durhan’s budget.
Hmmmmm…… that’s a possibility for sure. We know Zero isn’t going let any crisis go to waste. Now’s the time to pull out the ace up their shelve. And they get what they’ve ultimately wanted from the beginning. Hoe in the house, can you imagine the amount of stuff she could be blackmailed with?
As I suspected it might, the Schlichter post has reappeared —
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/11/07/greetings-from-feudal-california-n2598697
After that archive was pointed out, why bother suppressing it?
I found the whole thing refreshingly honest.
He normally publishes on Wheatie days, not Carl days.
AH! So was it just a glitch? Sounds like it.
Note the date in the url and the date on the page.
Speaking of Lord Newscum, I’m really wondering if a jab took him out. It would be karma of the highest order.
Couple stories on it now. Still everyone’s guess. If he doesn’t show up by tomorrow morning they’ll be full out speculation on it. Same with the red, red ridding hood. She’s been missing in action for a while too ever since her dual vaccinated self came down with CV.
Little Red Rotten Hood…
Would Psaki have to be distanced from the (fake) president? I was wondering if that could be the reason she’s out for a while. But it does seem to be dragging on.
If he’s in the hospital with COVID, people are not going to be happy about being misled.
Maybe someone wanted the jab to take him out. Bad lot #. Not the usual saline for the elites.
I encountered a thing on ZeroHedge and thought of you.
Just a sec…….
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mapped-countries-alcohol-consumption-capita
I thought it was very amusing that heavy drinkers tend to be “advanced countries”, where the non-drinkers tend to be slums.
Can’t afford to be drunk.
YUP,
Alcohol costs $$$ and Alcohol dims awareness and reflexes and could cost you your life.
“Work is the curse of the drinking classes”
— George Bernard Shaw
Auntie Nanzi?
An important message from GAB – with some “Streisand confirmation” by Twitter!
NewsMax is backpedaling! CLINTON RAG!!!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/update-newsmax-opposes-vaccine-mandate-will-not-enforce-vaccine-mandate-company/
That one anchor stood up to them, and they probably got a lot of backlash. I don’t respect what they have done.
Most of their stories are anti vax, surprising they put themselves in that position. Which they clearly did, given their news anchor’s refusal to go along with the mandate. Even now they say their going to test once a week. They should blow that off as well IMO. Test if there’s overt symptoms fine, but if nothing why? Especially since any one can carry, transmit and catch. Any testing should apply equally to all if they are going to do such.
The whole thing is stupid as hell now.
The frequent testing is for punishment (outta spite IMO)
The process is the punishment.
I would not submit to weekly testing, or any testing. They have no right to do that or to require it.
Unfortunately I think that DRUG TESTING paved the way so it would depend on the state.
NOLO Laws on Employee Drug Testing
So I think you could CHALLENGE CCP virus testing and demand temp taken instead since they would have to show PROBABLE CAUSE BEFORE TESTING.
Steve Cortez, love him! Avid 45 supporter, excellent with numbers, breaks down all subjects/issues numerically, intelligently, in easy to understand terms. Peter Navarro Junior’ish.💓💓💓
And often on Bannon’s War Room. I watch him there. Can’t stand Fox light.
NewsMaxx is effectively, “Go Along To Get Along”, with the faux injection mandate. Spineless. No integrity.
NO different than all the other companies playing along with BiteMe’s edict.
In the beginning once everyone flocked to them after bailing on Fox, their britches got too big and they were snarky to 45. Then they refused to acknowledge the voter fraud, especially after Dominion started filing lawsuits. Remember one of their hosts walking off live TV? That’s when I left them in the dust. I stick with RAV, Real America’s Voice. Only one I’m not crazy about is Miranda Khan, she’s thrown a few knives at 45 and has annoying lying Dems on too often. On Saturday there’s a ‘Lance’ guy on after Bannon, I really like him.
Lots of marches over the week end. Here’s a sampler.
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1457107052908605442?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1456862123296899072?s=20
Awesome! Great selection of protests!
Some got a little violent.
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1456909276824227842?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1457107431264194562?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1457109689506795523?s=20
Looks the Stasi is alive and well in Leipzig. Those communist Schweine should burn in hell for what they are doing. Former East Germans are not as easy controlled as the West Germans. The Firer of the Saxon will burn the communists down.
This one was a bit different. Anyone care to guess how or why?
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1456950059409428492?s=20
RKBA!!!
Definitely RKBA.. (had to look that up 🙂 ), I don’t think concertina wire is going going to work against those guys. They’ll go over or under it with out much problem.
Tanks, 8 inch guns and machine guns firing live might get the point across.
Me too. Right to Keep and Bear Arms!
That is the horde of Military age men invading the US.
A horde SUPPORTED by our ‘overlord’ wannabes.
I wish they would go after them the Over Lords I mean but I need to repent for that 🙁
Remember they are doing horrible things to Children and the Unborn. The lord does not ‘like that’
Matthew 18:6
King James Version
Jeremiah 22
King James Version
I do not see it as a sin to wish that wrong doers, especially those who hurt and kill children, are indicted, tried and sentenced.
I would like to do unspeakable things to those that hurt children and puppies. The dark side comes out in those cases.
Yeah, I have an Anger/Rage problem.
I literally see red and go into an altered state. I keep it well under control but the Good Lord help anyone who makes the mistake of putting their hands on me in anger. I have put much larger people in the hospital.
That is funny. In my young days I practiced Jujitsu . Came handy just threatening…. 🙂
No I do not have rage issues . I am accused of being to laid back. This does not mean I am always compliant. I choose my battles and speak up.
I am only 5’4” my brother who beat on me was 6’6″ and much older. A blind rage was my only defense and it worked. He learned not to touch me the hard way.
I understand.
My older brother bead me also. He is the pastor never apologized. The last time he did was when I was 18. He had the temper of my mother both if one looked at them the wrong way they exploded.
I forgave them to be free . I have no rage but have a distorted view of myself.
I was lucky to be married to a man who values me as I am.
“I was
luckyBlessed to be married to a man who values me as I am.” ditto fify🙂
This one is interesting. Reporting on AUS government update on gov response. “There’s some pretty gnarly stuff in here….”
Complete rebellion is justified in Australia.
It is entirely possible that Morrison (the MALE PM of Aus) now self identifies as a women or such, but that not having been made public, it is reasonable to assume that this is New Zealand that is being spoken about. The accents of the talking heads bear that out.
Big Aus (Universities, media, our shallow state and most pollies) is co-joined with big pharma, so this news MAY AS WELL be about Australia, but Adern (NZ PM) is a rung or two further up the ladder that ascends into the New Tower of Babylon
Big Pharma needs to be fought. Those who can go off meds and it is save should to bread big Pharma.
ANTIFA are definitely the BLACKSHIRTS of the BIDENAZI CORPORATE FASCISTS and the FIB GESTAPO.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/antifa-boston-police-vaccine-mandate-protest
Yeah… ANTIFA is part of the Depop movement for sure.
Antifa just outed themselves.
#if _FP_W_TYPE_SIZE < 32
#error “Here’s a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a real computer.”
#endif
— linux/arch/sparc64/double.h
Bringing this forward from yesterday so Wolf AND other techies might see it, in case at least some of this Might be important or helpful:
https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/708c239d356f60bb11c40b8c2e6c65e0?s=64&d=identicon&r=g
Valerie CurrenOnline
Coyote
November 7, 2021 20:10
Random weirdness report. TrumpIsMine & I have been blog corresponding about fly fishing & trying to involve my husband. Yesterday I grabbed hubby’s phone to find the blog post where part of the conversation existed so he & TIM might interface somewhere between hunting trips & music
gigs. https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f609.svg
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/fathers-day-wanderings/
Hubby has an Android Motorola phone on Metro PCS service. He opened the internet & it was automatically a Google search engine. I input the above blog post by name & it didn’t come up AND barely returned Any hits to my SC blog, which I’d definitely spelled out in the search: “specialconnections.wordpress.com” plus keywords.
Anyway I got into the SC blog on his phone & navigated to the Wanderings post AND it showed with only 6 comments, or technically 5 pingbacks & 1 comment…hmmm…
This made me think that I’d misremembered which post the TIM conversation had occurred on. So I went on the computer & went to the Wanderings post AND saw that it actually had 16 comments on it, including some by TIM!
So apparently Google’s censorship algorithms are so deep as to suppress a blog w/ barely any traffic AND to hide the actual comments under a given blog post!
Back to getting the post up on Michael’s phone we went to DuckDuckGo as a search engine & navigated to the post AND All of the comments I was seeing on the computer were now visible on his phone (but only One pingback, Not Five???)…
I’ve been seeing a very strange pattern of action on my blog when I check the stats periodically (something I do about as often as I have to sign into the Q-tree). I think my blog is under some type of “surveillance” since about May, iirc.
What happens is 1 or 2 entities in the “US” per the WP map, come & visit the archives 4-8 times AND a number of blog posts 2 times on some days. There is a pattern to this “intrusion” so certain posts appear with some regularity…for example:
On 11-3-21 there were 8 archive hits, & 2 each for:
Telling Tales (copied comments from the Q-Tree mostly)
Family
Valerie’s Test Post (w/ a link to the alternate Q-Tree site)
Father’s Day Wanderings
Faith vs the Prosperity Gospel (I’d put a link to that in my Slaughter post here)
Feelings
On 11-1-21 There were 6 archive hits AND 2 each for ALL of the above except:
Family
& there were also 2 hits each on
Faith
Falling
(each of the above & Feelings are static pages linked on my home page not just blog posts)
On 10-19-21 there were some patterned intrusions but it was more difficult to split out because a few more other people also came to SC on that day
On 10-17-21 there were typical patterns plus one person from Q-Tree to Special Forces presumably in addition to 6 archive hits AND 2 each for:
About Valerie Curren & Family (another top level page accessible from home page)
Special Forces (technically 3 hits)
Fun
Finding
Telling Tales (copied Q-Tree comments)
Wolfmoon’s Q-Tree Under Attack, Here’s a Q-Tree Refugee Post for Back-up Comms
The next previous similar “intrusions” happened on 10/5, 9/23, 9/19, 9/8, 9/1, 8/26, 8/18, 8/13, 8/6 NOTE ALL of the previous dates included the Q-Tree Under Attack post which was published on 8/3…Other dates of intrusion were: 7/29, 7/28, 7/26, 7/7, 7/6, 6/25 (this date had only One visitor so All activity is likely of a probing nature) Oh AND it appears that 6/25 was the first time that this activity began, at least this year. Note many of the hits also were of a post from a while back that pointed to CTH, iirc, Damning Deep State Dives Into Darkness…hmmm…
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2018/05/19/damning-deep-state-dives-into-darkness/
If for some reason further info, including the exact dates & hits & URL’s involved would be helpful to Wolf, CT, Steve, or any other techie or code cracker I’d be happy to supply the requested info.
It’s a very strange & recurring pattern of “attack” that shows up more readily on my much lesser trafficked blog than what might be harder to discern here in the Wolf Den!
I’ve only done SpecialConnections blog posts Three times in 2021 AND All Three posts are directly connected to the Q-Tree. The 2 most recent posts from 2020 also point to the Q-Tree directly or indirectly.
RECENT POSTS
This is partially what makes me think this strange “intrusion” pattern is connected to The Q-Tree. So???
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Valerie CurrenOnline
Coyote
Reply to Valerie Curren
November 7, 2021 20:14
FWIW, I checked my posting stats on All of Wolf’s blogs where I’m an author & don’t directly see any connection to my infrequent Q-Tree Posts. I have no idea if Any Comments/Replies to other people’s posts &/or comments generated any unwelcome “spy” activity….
Conversation starts here yesterday:
https://www.theqtree.com/2021/11/07/dear-maga-20211107-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-825434
He used an Android app to open the internet.
Unlike FOSS, the app ecosystem is…..peculiar. Much of it is hidden, it tends to be prolific about stealing personal information, much of it is CREATED or PROLIFERATED by cellphone companies and Google (Android).
Rather than use the browser that was preloaded on your phone, you may want to review https://brave.com/learn/most-secure-android-browser/ — not surprisingly, they rate their own browser highly, but they also discuss others.
In general, I generally shy away from Android questions, because my own studies lead me to pretty much abandon ever carrying one. I suspect you might get the same result from Steve (which is why he’s looking at stuff like https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ and https://puri.sm/ ).
I don’t generally like to run around with my hair on fire and shout about all the problems with Android — and, BTW, many of them are shared with their Apple cousins — because I’d look like a nut. In the heart of Silicon Valley, there are probably 20,000+ habitual daily cellphone users for every paranoid who avoids them (I mentioned a few days ago going into a restaurant where I asked about the menus and was told to scan a Q-code).
Now if you had three desktops and two laptops all running Linux, and got a new Linux laptop that was acting weird, I might be all over that. But, frankly, I can’t really get into debugging Android because the entire ecosystem is a bug.
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-android-browsers,review-6448.html
Nice AND thanks. I wasn’t necessarily looking for a debugging as much as wanting to alert Whoever about the possibility of random weird “attacks” seemingly connected to Q-Tree & revealed in my blog stat patterns.
The Google hide of legit info was a bonus “starting” point & motivator to share the other info too…
I’ll try to get hubby to read what you shared. I Am the paranoid one of the family who refuses to carry one of those tracking devices on me 🙂
The problem is that adding a cellphone into the mix immensely complicates the task of trying to figure out what is really happening. There is so much malware/spyware/junkware on even a virgin cellphone right out of the box from Tmobile that it’s ridiculous. And a large proportion of that crud is locked onto the phone and cannot be deleted.
In addition, the distribution of software updates in Android are in a “sick, as in leprosy with body parts falling off level of sick.” Linux (and other upstream) does an upgrade, then Google (who is at least technically competent) will upgrade Android, then they push it out to the original hardware vendors, who have already sold the phone and want nothing more to do with it (and may no longer even make hardware), who then (if ever) give it to the cellphone companies to “push” to handsets on their networks. And they’re too busy datamining their “customers” to be bothered.
The reason to look at “secure browsers” is not exactly to be secure — it’s to be repeatable and trustworthy. If a browser is insecure, you have no idea what it’s going to show you if you go to the same page five times — it could give you five different page views. A secure browser is very much more likely to show you the same thing each time.
Sadly, it never had to be like this. One of my favorite subjects is the Raspberry Pi. The Raspberry Pi is merely a cellphone without the phone, and without the Android ecosystem, running pure Linux. They are so fun that I’m occasionally reduced to giggles playing with them. But they avoided The Original Sin of computer corruption — bundling the hardware and software.
Looking at it from the website side, you have “good, steady” users who normally have the same IP and login with the same credentials in their usual time-zones…..and then you have random pings you get from weird places. Cellphones tend to generate a large number of idiosyncrasies.
Thanks CT, fascinating & frustrating & very hard for us non-techies to combat very well.
What I find interesting is the partial display of comments, by some methods of access, but not others. That is very interesting.
The problem THERE is that there could be many legitimate reasons why the URLs you are being presented with might give a lower number of comments, and you have to rule those out before you can say that comments are being suppressed. That’s SCIENCE. You have to give Google (and everybody else) every possible chance to be innocent – all of the time being Suspicious Cat!
Operating EARNESTLY on suspicion with the EARNEST presumption of innocence is not easy here.
I agree with Cthulhu, though, that Android is the ultimate case of “somebody else’s software” – which means you have to suffer all their mistakes and bad choices.
Thanks for the insights. I’m just glad you saw that comment to process as you will.
Isn’t Google more of a Bill Ayers case? “guilty as hell AND free as a bird!” as he stands on an American flag on some newspaper front page on 9-11-01 (conveniently).
I’m guessing it may be a cached version….but on a phone, on an unknown browser, there are too many possible places where it might be cached.
Interesting. Some of the comments that were originally hidden were actually written BY my husband, back when the post was new. He wasn’t signed into WP before I did the search on his phone but signed in later so he could reply to TIM. I guess we could try to duplicate the search again (assuming he’s still signed into WP) AND see if anything shows differently. I’ll try to remember to do that & Report Back if anything’s different.
You’d think that Any WP item that contains comments by the searcher would, at a minimum, show the comments by that person & perhaps the connected conversation there or WP &/or Google (etc.) would be too easily unmasked!
Trust but verify, hmmm 😉
Of course “Trust” is also an Earned commodity!
Cankles = Hillary
Cackles = Kamala
Cankers = Red Jen
What a trio!
LOL! That Red Jen designation is perfect! Is there any backstory on it that involves actual canker sores, or just freckles? 😆
Mainly the definition of canker as a noun and verb.
Noun: A source of corruption or debasement.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/canker
But I did do some looking into orange tree canker that can infect both the tree and orange crop. Was looking for a tie-in with Red Jen’s hair color (not much).
OK some alternate video selections, I mean Yikes Wolf!
Great job filling in as Whole Wheatie Wolf-man Pack 🙂
the above video is done at 3:30 🙂
These are the kinds of videos our kids got into! Back in the day anyway 😉
Well I spoke too soon for the kids being thankful AND the Braveheart video were lovely!
Thanks again for a great start to another Monday Wolf!
I love Tim Hawkins (first video)! He is so talented and funny. Here is his collection of rock stars doing kid songs (all him, of course). 😂
Love it. We love Tim Hawkins too AND enjoy many other Christian & clean comedians. They sure made raising our kids much more fun!
That was pretty fun. I’ve never seen that one before (& my previous reply was from the notifier so didn’t realize it was even a video). I’m more familiar w/ this Hawkins music:
Paul Aldrich also comes to mind 😉
& of course the Whose Line Is It Anyway classics like:
Yay Larry Boy.
Whenever I think about the deep state/cabal I think about “The Rumor Weed” and how it spreads, and basically covers the earth, inside and outside, with its fetid, diseased, evil roots…
And then there was that one where he was in a spaceship that could dig into the earth, and the professor told him he was boring now (Larry had a sad at that 🙂 )…..
Finally their take on Esther, especially the music, e.g. “The Battle Is Not Ours” which was sung by Phil Vischer’s wife(!). Talented group, they were. Until they bit off a “big idea” that was a little too big to realize (and then got swallowed up by Sony)… (who also killed off the original “Secret Adventures”, replacing it with one of their own…)…
Yes Veggie Tales were rather ahead of their time & so very creative AND godly. Sadly it has been watered down like so many Christianese *see video* things in our culture.
I understood that Barney the dinosaur was originally a Christian kids program but when it went big they were forced to drop the godly side of things. Amazing that the culture controllers imagine that they can teach kids some form of morality apart from God & biblical truth.
Toilet smuggling update:
Fiancee was getting paranoid about my making the trip (in her car) and wanted to add conditions and alternatives. So now we’re going together and spending the night and she gets to visit quilt stores.
Note to Kalbo — the plan that is coming together has me wandering around Reno late Saturday afternoon…..
Appreciate the
warningheads up. 🙂 Reno highlights. Hmmm. Gun stores in my mind. Ammo prices remain obscene in my mind. Otherwise, Reno is just another city with your choice of “flush toilets” at HD or Lowe’s. 🙂
Saturday. Likely mid day I’d be enjoying a “hundred mile view”, sipping on a coffee in Virginia City. Or enjoying a monster size scoop of ice cream “Grandma’s”. Great ice cream. Fudge made on site as folks watch. Local rail has a great steam locomotive run. Sometimes they use a diesel engine. Virgina City, a nice step back in time to stroll about. Truly enjoy whittling away time up there, Virginia City.
Drop down “Six Mile Canyon Road” and closer to my neck of the woods.
Carson City has a GREAT railroad museum. On weekends they usually run a cool engine or street car of sorts on a local track on their property.
Quilt stores? I have zero clues. 😂 😂 😂
Travel safe and enjoy the weekend.
Virginia City is fun!
Foget taking blankets, you can cover up the contraband with her new quilts!! Win Win!! 😂
Paranoid? WTH? You’re killing me Cooth. Guessing, Fiance knows something,
weI don’t know about your driving skills? 😂 😂 Please do let Fiance know the CA Agriculture Check Points have NOT been converted to strip searches for all. OR Covid Injection Passport Check Points.
CA Agriculture Check Points remain a seriously BAD JOKE on CA tax payers. Them asshoes do NOTHING constructive, short of collecting a paycheck. Prolly great benefits.
BTW, if one chooses to transit NV to CA via NV88/CA88, there are ZERO CA Agriculture Check Points. NONE.
Safe travels.
Would she be needing calico fabric? I’ll probably never quilt again, but have a stash that I would like to divest.
At least the calico does not take up the room fake fur does… One day I will turn my dozen or so large boxes of fake fur into saddle pads and then have to figure out were I am going to store THEM!!
WOO HOO!!! Glad I went looking for a picture of the stack of pads!!!
The ANSWER!!!
Karl is opining….
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244170
Which is always worth a listen.
There is NO WAY this blithering idiot got 81 million legitimate votes…NONE. And just because he is a blithering idiot does not mean he A) is not a puppet for Obama, or B) not evil to do the things he does. We LITERALLY could have elected a pet rock, that would have done nothing at all, and been in BETTER shape domestically, economically, and in foreign policy, than we are now. If you think sir farts a lot has even a 38% approval rate, I have some beach front property in Nebraska to sell you…CHEAP.
Read this MESS and someone get Barbara Billingsly on the line, see if she also speaks gibberish and can translate this. crap. “Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/joe-biden-explains-higher-consumer-prices-peoples-supplies-materials-end-kitchen-table-fam-life-guess-close-plants-video/
I literally know more about economics than the entire Biden admin combined. HINT, you don’t keep spending TRILLIONS and raising taxes while dismantling your ONE strong point, energy independence, and pass that on to the middle class in a pandemic which has already DECIMATED the private sector. You also do NOT “mandate” blatantly unconstitutional regulations which will further decimate the weakened workforce.
The HAVE to be doing it intentionally, not even my cat is stupid enough to do the things they are doing, They LITERALLY get EVERY decision WRONG. Even a broke clock is right twice a day, these fools have done NOTHING right. You would think that even accidentally they would get something right, but they don’t, IE intentional.
Then after they get shellacked in an off year slate of elections, what do they do? Do they re-access their policies and run to the center, if even briefly, like Clinton did? NOPE, they double down, DAMN the torpedoes full speed ahead!
These fools are ALL IN this time. I think they KNOW what is coming in 22 and 24 and on. They KNOW they are DOOMED, so they are hell bent on doing as MUCH damage they can to make a mess, so that when Trump comes back he will have an even bigger mess than Obama left.
They THINK that will stall his 2nd agenda. The FOOLS do not realize it will only take Trump about 8 months to undo all the damage AGAIN and unleash an even BIGGER recovery. Then 3 years to DEMOLISH the Dems and all those who perpetuated this disaster. Then 8 years of Desantis to institute the new MAGA agenda Trump will restart. That translates to NO dem control for a generation.
Buckle up. They are going to go into OVERDRIVE with stupidity…we MUST be vigilant and fight them wherever and when ever we can, We are in the tunnel, but the light is coming. Virginia and NJ show people have had ENOUGH.
Morning, Rex.
morning, been a while
Glad to see you.
likewise, glad to be back!
There is NO DOUBT that they are intent on DESTROYING the USA. After all how many times do they have to TELL US to OUR FACE?
http://transhumanist-party.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Transhumanist-Party-Transhuman-Party-Website-Header.png
I agree fully with your post.
Eventually we need to take them at their word…
I have a handful of “life rules.” Up at the top of the list is “when someone shows you who they are, believe them.”
EXACTLY! How much more evidence do we need.
Klown Schab: “You’ll own nothing, and be happy about it.”
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You go first… 🤣
That photo of Rockefeller… is that postmortem?
Close to it, probably on heart #5.
It is purpose destruction of America. These people hate America their loyalty is someplace else. Those 16 Republicans who betray this country voting with Biden’s team are democrat shills parading as Republicans. They outed themselves.
That another REAL shining achievement of Trump. He outted the wolves in conservative clothing. The masks were dropped.
EXACTLY!!
And they have outed themselves to a large majority of Americans and not just the few who are paying attention.
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Nov 12 20204951
Q !!
Shall we play a game?
[N]othing [C]an [S]top [W]hat [I]s [C]oming
NCSWIC
https://www.cisa.gov/safecom/NCSWIC
Who stepped down today [forced]?
https://www.cisa.gov/bryan-s-ware
More coming?
Why is this relevant?
👉How do you ‘show’ the public the truth?
👉How do you ‘safeguard’ US elections post-POTUS?
👉How do you ‘remove’ foreign interference and corruption and install US-owned voter ID law(s) and other safeguards?
It had to be this way.
👉Sometimes you must walk through the darkness before you see the light.
Q
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Americans HAD TO BE SHOWN what we are actually dealing with. The curtain is now down and many are horrified. As food becomes scarce, shelves are empty and your heat is to expensive or shut off, more will wake up.
“Americans HAD TO BE SHOWN what we are actually dealing with. The curtain is now down and many are horrified. As food becomes scarce, shelves are empty and your heat is to expensive or shut off, more will wake up.”
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Not only that, but just wait until millions are already dead.
The dead people are gonna be so mad… but at least they’ll know who to vote for in the next election… 😂 🤣 😂
Scott there was not much Trump could do about it. If he tried to make a move on FauXi they would have had him out of the White House before you could blink.
I am reading Peter Navarro’s book. Peter had to TRICK the Task Force into agreeing to the China Travel Ban. At that point they kicked him out of the meetings.
I highly recommend getting the book. Actually they also have an audio version where some of the people like President Trump and Mark Meadows actually read their ‘parts’ I think that maybe the first audio book I ever buy. 😊
Yes Trump sure did and now we know who they are.
BINGO. Knowing is half the battle, and more “out” themselves now all the time. We really did not know just how many embedded turncoats there were before Trump.
True 🙂
Rex good to see you missed your contributions. Hope all is well?
yes thanks singing. Entire family got covid. All is now well. No one was really bad, just like a normal flu.
Glad to hear you are doing well now.
Yep, MRS Rex had it the worst, she had the body aches. We all lost our smell and taste and ran low grade fevers, I had the porcelain alter worshiping. Everyone was better and clear in about 7 days.
I am sorry to hear that . My prayers are with you and family.
Did you read some of Gail’s contributions and Aubergine on preventives for covid? Some could help I believe if it keeps hanging around.
I believe I had it before we knew what it was I thought it was flu. I am using Zelenko’s Z-Pack and it helps.
Yep, I took my zinc, vitamin C, D, E, and b 12. Really was not too bad after about 4 days. My grandson brought it home from school, and he had the sniffles for a day LOL. He is 14.
Kids are known to bring sniffles home 🙂
Remember when my kids went to school we got everything. They got it for a day or two and we for a week.
Glad you had a good recovery. 4 days is not to bad seems like a regular flu.
Vitamins are so important and rest.
Agreed!
I am glad you are well again 🙂
Great post!
Monday morning ground report.
Have had five grandkids overnight due to a parental anniversary.
Fed them breakfast. They are all outside in their pajamas playing.
I don’t care.
The toddler just drank out of the dog water for the third time.
I don’t care.
Mom and dad are not due for another hour or so.
God help me. 🤣
5?? Monday morning?? G-Ma, you’re Brave and Strong, you got this!! 😍😍
Five? God help you is right! You are braver than I am.
And dog water strengthens the immune system. 😉
LOL! I was reading this conversation from the bottom up, and I was thinking….
“Dog water”? – that’s a new one!
I had a cousin who used to eat dog biscuits!
“No comment.” 😉
I have tried plain Milk Bones. Not recently. 😂
My daughter did. We would laugh our butts off.
My youngest son did also.
“….Mom and dad are not due for another hour or so…”
Just make sure they are all dressed by then and you are good to go.
Only problem is they will now want to come and visit Grandma often. 😋
They live a mile away. Here practically every day. It’s the 24-hours in a row with all five that get to me. 😆
You are braver than me. I would set rules and they would know I mean it when I speak German works every time 🙂
German works on my ponies and horses too. 😆
To funny also for my dogs.
My kids knew when they overstepped I started counting to 10 in German. The mouthing back stopped specially if they were to clean their room.
Mom is about at my speed. If they are still walking and talking she is good to go. 😄
You are brave 😅
Oooh, the toddler will have a good immune system!
Well we do try to keep our water troughs clean. (Clorox is your friend when it comes to ridding a tank of algae)
I’ve read this several times over and can’t stop laughing! Makes my day!
Here we go again. Girl apparently blamed for being raped, by the school.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/readyvictim-blaming-north-carolina-high-school-suspends-15-year-old-female-student-reporting-sexual-assault-girls-restroom-school-accused-teenager-filing-false-report-even-m/
Nick has more posts up….
Hubby said, I wonder what RELIGION the school authorities are… It is ALWAYS the woman’s fault in a certain religion unless there are THREE MALE witnesses willing to testify.
RealPOTUS:”Brandon has become a real Star, but I still like the first phrase better”
Pepe Lives Matter
@PepeLivesMatter17
12h
FJB is more accurate
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OMG, hilarious!!!
Democrat Party = Spirit of the Age cult.
EXACTLY. As P. Rex said, THEY ARE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE!!!
They are wrecking America ON PURPOSE.
They are SCUTTLING America ON PURPOSE.
And CHINA is HELPING.
And WEF is SMILING.
Arrow meets bullseye.
Exactly. They can’t have their dystopian New World Order unless America is brought down. We are the only thing stopping them.So we must be destroyed.
To go along with Steve Deace’s observation.
(about 4 minutes)
Thank you for sharing this moving video.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/08/satellite-images-china-mock-ups-us-warships
Satellite images show China has built mock-ups of US warshipsSighting renews concerns over Beijing’s capability and intentions as tensions rise over South China Sea
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ChiCom psychological operation, and the communist Guardian is helping!
Is anyone keeping a running tab of these?
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1457745703032217603
Resignations could be FOR US or AGAINST US. If this helps that Soviet commie get in, I’m calling it THE LATTER.
Yeah,
Older moderate Rat to younger FULL ON COMMIE Rat
The retirement is scheduled for December, Quarles was a Trump pick, before that he grew up in Bush world. Before that the Carlyle Group first and later the Cynosure Group. He’s a Latter Day Saint another name for a Mormon, and from his wife’s side of the family, also a Latter Day Saint, came an early Fed Chairman, Marriner Stoddard Eccles, a Keynesian Economist (socialist bend) involved in the establishment of both the World Bank and the IMF and who was noted for his involvement in off shore banking before it was ever a thing. Quarles name also comes up in the leaked Paradise Papers (2017), which are similar in size and scope to the Panama Papers leak(2016) and the Pandora Papers leak (2021). All of which finger world leaders and prominent bankers/business persons shady off shore investments and in some cases likely embezzlements.
Quarles departure gives the Biden Nazi’s the chance to reshape the FED. Not finding a good reason for him to be stepping down. Likely some high up horse trading that we are not privy too or he’s getting forced out as the Bidenese seem more than willing to make public dirty secrets when it benefits them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_Papers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Papers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_Quarles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Eccles
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/randal-quarles-resign-federal-reserve-december
Best comment under the tweet.
Yes. “Pretending not to know.” This has become an INFECTION in science. Fauci and his “double-blind” (and I suspect “third-party tampering”) studies are a beautiful example of something that has been actively deployed by the deceitful.
Enjoy this wonderful article by COVID realist “The Ethical Skeptic”. Thank you to whoever it was who posted this here originally (yes, I’ve already forgotten).
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2019/03/07/nelsonian-inference-and-cultivated-ignorance/
Captioning the Fauxi/Cankles photo:
#1: hrc ” I killed over 100 people”
fauxi ” hold my vax …”
#2:
Text balloons over both hrc and fauxi: ” Finally, someone as evil as me!”
Let’s Go Brandon!
I am now aware of an ivermectin shipment from India (kalbo’s latest source) that got delivered exactly TWO WEEKS after ordering.
Impressive!
My order (Kalbo’s first source) made it through customs and has safely arrived. A major sigh of relief. Got it within a reasonable time.
2nd for me last week, another of the FLCCC sources. 9 days, these people are beyond thorough. 👍🏻
Does anyone know why Gateway Pundit comments have completely disappeared? At least they have for me. All I see is a link that says “comments” by the front page story. But clicking it gets you nothing. If you go to the story, there are no comments below it. This happens for me whether I have an ad blocker on or off.
Could it be they got a new commenting platform? I thought they were on Discus(ting), but they appear to be on something called Insticator now… I just clicked on the “Comment” tag way, way, Wayyyyyyyyyyy down the page and the comments showed up. I’m on a desktop, though (Brave, with LOTS of adblockers)…
There is no “comment” tag for me at the bottom of the page. Just the end of the story.
There is none for me either, but I am using an ad blocker and have never been able to see their comments without turning it off.
I can’t see them even with my ad blocker turned off. That’s what has me mystified. I’m using the same browser setup at that site that I always have before, and suddenly a few days ago the comments disappeared.
Another person responded saying they are getting slow script messages. That might be from the adverts or the new commenting system it self.
Another person said they had to take down their Brave Shield? I don’t use Brave, I use Vivaldi so doesn’t know about that.
Just opened a GWP page. Works for me. Long load time as the comments are below a thick layer of adverts that take a while to load, so as they load continue to scroll down (I’ve had occasions where I had to reload the page when it gets stuck, but that is not often as I have lots of RAM). Also story dependent, they sometimes seems to be some outside interference but near as bad as the Daily Mail has been for me. Also of note they went to a new commenting system, but I haven’t had trouble with that, but that could be a difference in operating systems and the like?
It still worked for me after they started using the comment platform. But suddenly a few days ago, it stopped giving me comments at all. So something else changed.
Found this link by search outside the site. Takes you back to GWP but it’s where they are discussing the new comment system and they are discussing it every day with a new post.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/update-insticator-commenting-system/
Seems they are still tweeking the system.
Looked for similar issue but didn’t notice one being discussed near the top of the thread but lots of users not happy with new system.
I’ll keep it open and see if anyone responds to my query.
1 reply Will update if anything new comes up. If you think there is something else I should post let me know.
I have 16GB of RAM. I’m wondering if you have less and that might be the issue?
Yes, GWP switched to Insticator from Discus due to all the cyber attacks they are getting (sound familiar, Wolf?) Gateway will be having a meeting with their new comment mangement vendor to discuss the problems users are having. You might contact them by email and let them know what’s happening for you so they can tell the Insticator developers. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/update-insticator-commenting-system/
Wow!
Should of never of been a trial. We had all those vids with in days that proved his innocence , to include dumb ass’s sitting there in the testimony chair thing, when he tried to shoot Kyle. Just like we’ve shown every vid of who and when Kyle shot someone, each time in self defense. This has all been political and likely the trial has been delayed for distraction purposes. Either that or they thought Kyle would not be able to muster a defense with all garbage they’ve been tossing on him.
Those evil bastards wanted Kyle to make a deal.
God bless that kid for living through this ordeal to expose just how twisted our system of so-called justice has become.
Ep. 86: Rittenhouse; McMichaels; Project Veritas; Alec Baldwin; Baby Shark & MORE! Viva & Barnes later today:
SD has a longer video. This witness absolutely destroys the prosecution.
The witness was properly coached to NOT perjure himself.
Barnes said that it is NOT a slam dunk because the prosecutor is going for Kyle had NO RIGHT to be there WITH A GUN so self-defense does not apply. That means it will depend on how badly brain washed the jury was by the media. WORSE the trial will end near Thanksgiving and the jurors will be anxious to finish up and go home.
Seen at twit world below that…
Also seen on twit world. This is not the Current “Joe Biden” imo…
Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
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.@JoeBiden
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That’s exactly what he did.
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Senator Melissa Melendez
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Well isn’t this interesting.
Another find at twit world–sickos!
This makes it VERY clear that there were satanic PLANTS who instigated the crowd behavior. Bet your money on it. If the crowd videos can be compiled, it may be possible to identify them.
Well, whoever was injecting people with an unknown substance is suspect number 1. That would drive panic, having people dropping from heart attacks.
So that stuff will get confiscated like the vids from Vegas w/ the “lone gunman” shooting the concert-goers? 🙁
They were referring to him as Bye-Cep Guy at patriot.win 😂
I just heard on Jay Seculow that Blinkend is an agent for Soro’s oversees.
https://aclj.org/government-corruption/sec-blinken-acts-as-an-agent-of-george-soros-abroad
Stinken, Blinken, and Odd…
Yes.
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1457656696155693057?s=20
Just like their “profit” Mo Ham Head…
And the DEMONRATS are paedos and traffickers too, so they won’t bat an eye…
And the big guy will get his 10% too…..
Wonder how much CNN the “sellers” to video this.
It’s ALL E V I L.
This little girl was likely raped by her “husband” as soon as they got to his house. 9 years of age of considered to be perfectly fine for Muslim females in certain Islamic countries to marry (Turkey, Afghanistan and others). The last child bride of Muhammad, Aisha, was 9 years old when he “married” her.
Cocktail anyone ? It’s about the only way to listen to this insanity
Is he for F…King REAL???? Some of those underpasses are a century or more old and were built BEFORE BUSES EXISTED!!!
Finished in June 1833, the Staple Bend tunnel was advertised as the first railroad tunnel in the United States. It was the third tunnel of any kind built in the US, the first tunnels were for other canals in Pennsylvania….
“Is he for F…King REAL???? Some of those underpasses are a century or more old and were built BEFORE BUSES EXISTED!!!”
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I think he means that black and Puerto Rican beach-goers are tall (longer torsos and necks), and so their heads stick up higher when driving, which is a real danger in a low hanging overpass situation.
On the other hand, if they get decapitated by a low overpass on the way to the beach, they’ll be the same height as everybody else, which means everybody at Sleepy Hollow Beach will finally be equal 👍😁
Does that mean they’ll have to do the repairs with an Ichabod Crane???
(Ducks and runs, just in time…)…..
“Transportation @SecretaryPete: ” If an underpass was constructed such that a bus carrying mostly Black and Puerto Rican kids to a beach, […] in New York was designed too low for it to pass by, that that obviously reflects racism that went into those design choices.”
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How does the bus know when ‘mostly’ blacks and Puerto Ricans are riding on it?
How do the underpasses on the way to the beach know when buses with ‘mostly’ blacks and Puerto Ricans are passing under, so the underpass can dip extra low to stop them from going by?
What does the beach have to do with anything?
It’s so stupid, if he was a member of a Republican administration, the administration would force him to resign, just to end the mockery 😂🤣😂
BUHBUHBUHBUH isn’t this dude a “Rhodes Collar”? THAYUR SUMART!!!!
Memories…. We had a Rhodes Collar who was a caver. The tricks we played on that poor guy. He had absolutely no common sense and we could talk him into anything.
Maybe it’s a COLUMbus???
Is anyone else having problems with Gab RIGHT NOW?
I was trying to post a link & it wouldn’t go through. I couldn’t eliminate the post either, tried several times. Tried to log out & it wouldn’t even let me do that?
Is Gab under attack?
Probably more likely that I’m an idiot (again) AND can’t figure out how to stop 😉
Covering up the massive protests, perhaps even on “live” webcams like DP showed recently…
PeterSweden
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Massive protests this weekend:
– Francehttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1eb-1f1f7.svg
– Italyhttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1ee-1f1f9.svg
– Germanyhttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1e9-1f1ea.svg
– Austriahttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1e6-1f1f9.svg
– Belgiumhttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1e7-1f1ea.svg
– Netherlandshttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1f3-1f1f1.svg
– Australiahttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1e6-1f1fa.svg
– Canadahttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1e8-1f1e6.svg
– Switzerlandhttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1e8-1f1ed.svg
Hundreds of thousands of people protesting for freedom all over the world.
And still nothing on the news.
One more today.
Sounds like China-Pfizer better come up with a vaccine for ‘hesitancy‘.
That’s the real problem 👍 😁
Thx
From OT:
NBA Mandates All Previously Vaccinated Players Must Get More Vaccinated With Mandatory Boosters
November 8, 2021 | Sundance | 32 Comments
Last week Florida Governor Ron DeSantis noted the feds were likely to move the goalposts, and “fully vaccinated” will shift because never-ending booster shots will become part of the mandate. The media went bananas claiming DeSantis was spreading a conspiracy theory.
Well, today the National Basketball Association (NBA) has told all previously vaccinated players they are no longer considered vaccinated unless they get a booster shot.
The NBA is now requiring the players to get the booster jab or they cannot play. The players can pick a booster, any booster, mix-n-match, whatever… but booster they must.”
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Because MORE is BETTER 😂 🤣 😂
Isn’t the NBA the most ‘woke’ of all sports?
Take a knee for Kaepernick, protest the National Anthem, and get in line for your China-Pfizer shots!
Where’s NBA Commissioner Adam Silver? Shouldn’t he be taking all of his Clot-shots and SPBs (Spike Protein Boosters) on live TV?
And the team owners, and their families, and their children?
If the China Virus Vaxx is so safe and effective, shouldn’t they all be leading by example?
They wouldn’t ask their employees to take shots that they wouldn’t take themselves, right?
And why is it just the NBA who gets the special mandated ‘protection’ of the Jonestown Juice?
Why isn’t it racist to single out the NBA players for the Final Solution?
Why does Adam Silver want to turn the league into the Tuskegee Basketball Association?
Build Back Booster…
This is great. The players should prepare what they’d like written about them should they happen to fall dead with heart trouble or a stroke….it’s the booster game of chance
I doubt that, even if one of them collapsed during a game, they would allow a connection to the vaccine to be made, especially if time has passed between the vax and their collapse.
Fantastic news! hope they get their booster soonest AND schedule the next booster.
If they were real men they’d get 2 boosters at once, save time .
Evening it up so that ChiCom runts can deal with these guys when they all have heart failure!
If this isn’t racist, I don’t know what is.
It’s all becoming white noise. They’re beating it into the ground.
The same goes for tv commercials. They’ve become so woke and weird woke at that, that my mind tunes them out. If I watch a couple hours of tv at night there’s no way I remember one thing that they were hoping to sell me. Epic fail. Perhaps all those interracial intersexual bi and tri race groups will buy all the products
Weirdly, Democrat LBJ Boss Hogg corruptoids and Soviet infiltrators taught all their weird prejudices to the DNC, and now we have “woke racism” out the wazoo!
Winsome Sears & Levin:
https://rumble.com/vojzt9-winsome-sears-life-liberty-and-mark-levin.html (~12 minutes)
I really like her. No WONDER THE COMMIES ARE GOING NUTZ after hearing her!
Winsome, a BREATH of FRESH AIR.
If anyone can make headway with VA schools, Winsome is the person!
Beyond schools, IF NECESSARY, Winsome IS going to keep Youngkin calibrated and pushing along the conservative path. Winsome TREASURES her American Citizenship.
Not suggesting Youngkin is a problem, simply mentioning Youngkin, as I’ve seen push back on QTree towards Youngkin..
Youngkin trouncing McAwful, an amazing accomplishment.
I’m with BOTH YOUNGKIN AND SEARS, until they prove otherwise.
BTW Winsome is also a MARINE so Youngkin had better mind his P&Qs.
Also an electrician 😀 ⚡ 🔥
I hear this from time to time.
AMEN. This is how socialists took over our children’s minds.
INFLUENCE THE INFLUENCERS.
Just looking for something to perk up this tree this evening.
LOL!!!
Vaccine Makers Now Studying Why Vaccine Is Causing Heart Problems
Like it was some unexpected thing and Fauci just caught on to it now.
Obama knows that if he keeps going, he’ll be in prison for the rest of his life.
They’re taking the side exit NOW.
Yawn. Grewsome IS a POS. Don’t care. Just another corrupt politician destroying America.
Since the TW asks for treatment recommendations. Give Grewsome another booster.
What he might be experiencing:
Wow. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. I would rather see Newsome in prison with all his faculties intact.
It’s bad stuff. A woman once described her experience to me. She was diagnosed in Hawaii, and the doctor told her to get home (stateside) immediately because recovery and treatment take so long. She became partially paralyzed and had bad nerve pain. Whatever the nurses were doing for her was making it worse, but she couldn’t tell them. She did fully recover, but I think it took months.
Points well taken.
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Easiest “tell” determining if one lived in Hawaii, or was visiting Hawaii.
Visitors to Hawaii say stuff like, “Going back to the States”.
Folks living in Hawaii say, on the mainland.
Interesting. “Stateside” is defined as the continental US.
“Mainland” has its own definition for Hawaii.
noun
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stateside
Appreciate the added information. Today’s trivia for me.
Had I NOT lived in Hawaii, I’d have never noticed or commented.
Thanks again. 🙂
You know, I’m a healer, and I feel bad about it, but I wouldn’t pee on him if he was on fire.
Seems fair, since he and his ilk would probably like to kill me because I won’t take their stupid clot-shot.
I think the best answer would be to conform to the Hippocratic oath, but to say this:
“I will heal you, but I will not lie about what I have done, nor will I hide that truth which could save others.”
Reasonable. But I’m not sure how reasonable I am feeling these days!
LOL! I hear you!!!
The signs of this are just too visible. No wonder he’s hiding out.
Nah. He can find out on his own.
Best treatment is NO VACCINE.
GEE, I think I will take that advice. 😋
If this is true, it should shine the light on vaccine injuries that so many continue to ignore.
I don’t see any mitigating factors in a GB case. He got a vaccine and got GB. People can’t fail to make that connection, especially in a high-profile case like this.
I just ran across area news about a drug I had not heard about before called Eutylone.
HARRISONBURG, Va. – A pair of Winchester, Virginia men, pleaded guilty this week to possessing and distributing Eutylone, a Schedule I controlled substance primarily used for its psychoactive, stimulant effects. https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdva/pr/pair-plead-guilty-distributing-eutylone-winchester-0?fbclid=IwAR0iqv5UmOumkxQDDIM5dX6QPYFvs9TLA7NlELzew0rZeYU5v44Tx3GZoYU
It made me wonder if Kamala and Buttigieg are on drugs like that.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/11/08/transportation-secretary-forget-gas-prices-and-supply-chain-chaos-bridges-and-roads-are-racist/
Looks like another one of those MDA / MDMA type quasi-designer “rave” drugs.
Surely not Buttgig…he’s a nursing mom or something along that line
So true, it could get into his breast milk. He’d surely not be that reckless with his new born. 😲
Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) Tweeted:
My sincere condolences to Governor Newsom of California. It is being reported that he has had a COVID vaccine-induced injury (GBS). I hope he recovers quickly, as vaccine-induced GBS can be a difficult paralytic syndrome.
https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1457861599033757696?s=20
What will they all say now? What excuses will they make?
“What will they all say now? What excuses will they make?”
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Is there any reason to believe he ever took the vaxx in the first place, instead of some placebo for the cameras?
It looks like the source is an anonymous ‘insider’.
An anonymous ‘close source’ of a mass-murderer.
What could go wrong?
🤣
“Is there any reason to believe he ever took the vaxx in the first place, instead of some placebo for the cameras?”
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Remember it would be a nurse or technician who gave the shot. If they had read the Market Ticker, they might just have slipped Gruesome one of the nastier lots…. You never know who lost a school mate or friend to that poisonous jab.
OR if it is injected into muscle or a vein.
Have read it matters AND may be related to heart issues. Perhaps GBS also.
It matters with most shots. We always check (By drawing a vaccuum) before injecting. Every once in a while after you make the jab and draw back, you get blood. That is an OOPS and you pick another site.
https://www.bristol.ac.uk/media-library/sites/vetscience/documents/clinical-skills/Intramuscular%20(IM)%20injection%20(cattle).pdf
Thanks.
No idea when I’ll get another injection. Certainly won’t be a Covid injection nor flu.
Whenevr the injection comes along, I’ll be paying attention.
3, 2, 1…
Get INJECTED!
The BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE RISKS.
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So sad for Grewsome and his family. Got it. Done with that.
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No apologies for my perspective.
GREATEST news to HIGHLIGHT, Covid Injection Dangers. WE KNOW EXIST.
Yet, the injection dangers are IGNORED by asshoes like, GREWSOME, FauXi, CDC, NIH, BiteMe, Propaganda News, Big Tech.
Them bastards belittle us daily for searching for truth. Speaking truth. F’m ALL.
Simply PRICELESS NEWS FOR TRUTH.
The bastards pushing these injections ARE destroying America. KILLING and CRIPPLING AMERICANS.
I have no intention of being nice or polite with them fuckers. F’m!
You’re exactly right. That’s what they’ll say, while our common sense tells us otherwise.
They have yet to tell us about any FACTUAL benefits. It doesn’t stop you from getting COVID. It doesn’t stop transmission. It doesn’t stop you from dying. And it has a whole ton of possible life threatening side effects. What benefits? There aren’t any!
^^^ 100%. ^^^
They say it keeps people from getting severe COVID cases, but that’s not universally true either since some end up hospitalized and/or dead.
I fully agree, but I wouldn’t bet the farm — or even a cow pie on the farm — that it’s actually true, either that Gruesome took the vaxx, or that he has had an adverse reaction to it.
This is true. Our enemies are capable of great deception.
Good T shirt. Sums it all up nicely.
How many needless vaxx deaths is Gruesome responsible for?
How many thousands of elderly people did he murder in nursing homes, with premeditation and malice aforethought?
It’s like finding out Hitler was sick, and hoping he recovers quickly, so he can get back to murdering people again real soon.
Wishing someone a speedy recovery is taking the high road, especially for someone who speaks agaisnt COVID vaccines like Dr. Malone. Also, some people subscribe to the idea that these things are up to God. I’m one of them. I wouldn’t wish any kind of illness or death on anyone. Earthly, legal justice, yes, by all means. But causing illness is not something we have been given moral power over.
“Wishing someone a speedy recovery is taking the high road, especially for someone who speaks agaisnt COVID vaccines like Dr. Malone.”
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I realize that’s the conventional wisdom, but isn’t that good reason to question it?
Is it really a ‘high road’, or a low one, with fake signage that says ‘high road’ on it?
Let’s use Hitler as an example, to remove Mr. Gruesome from the equation.
If Hitler got sick, would it be ‘taking the high road’ to wish him a speedy recovery?
To what end?
What would the consequences of that wish be, if it came true?
It matters, doesn’t it?
Should we wish people well so we can feel virtuous about ourselves for taking the (supposed) high road — never mind the death and needless suffering that will result, if our well wishes come true?
Or does wishing well to a mass-murderer, so he can murder some more, make us morally complicit in his crimes — both past and future?
Is it really virtuous to wish a mass-murderer well?
Is there any actual virtue in false virtue?
Or is it the opposite?
If the declared aim of ‘taking the high road’ results in harm to others, then how high can that road really be?
For me, the reason is not “conventional wisdom.”
Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Matthew 5:43-48
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
It’s also not about virtue or even virtue-signalling.
We are told to pray for our enemies. We are told to love them. It is impossible to love someone while wishing them severely ill or dead. Those things are in God’s purview, and His alone.
I don’t feel love for Newsom, but I can pray that he will wake up, turn from his ways, and turn to God. I can also pray for his health and welfare while hoping for earthly justice. But it is ultimately in God’s hands, not mine. My duty is to try to be obedient, even though it can be extremely hard and I fail often.
Perhaps the best is to wish God deals with Newsom as God thinks he deserves.
Perhaps a long nasty illness will give Newsom time to reflect and mend his ways.
However I am with Scott and can not ‘wish him well’ I will save those wishes for his victims.
I understand.
Dr. Malone made a loving statement, in line with how we are commanded to be.
Yes, and here is something people are missing: Dr. Malone has a lot of people who listen to him and follow him on social media. So far, the MSM has not said a word about Newsome or what he may be dealing with. Dr. Malone just made that post and a LOT of people will see it. That means it’s out there in the open now where it can’t be hid. That could do an awful lot of good if it wakes people up – especially parents thinking about vaccinating their children.
Yes. If it is true, the sooner people know about it, the better. I’m not seeing anything about it anywhere, so either news organizaitons are vetting it, or it’s not true, or they know and are delaying reporting on it.
He may be in really bad shape – such as difficulty speaking! We need to pray, if only that he and all others see the power of prayer!
AMEN! One more excellent reason to follow Christ’s astonishing teaching here!
Exactly. TRUSTING Christ means trusting that his teachings ARE the correct ones.
Praying for an enemy does not mean that we pray for their earthly success in dastardly endeavors. But it does mean that we should pray for their well-being in the same ways that we would pray for our friends.
There are MANY reasons why praying for our enemies makes sense.
“Dr. Malone made a loving statement, in line with how we are commanded to be.”
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I didn’t take it that way, though I can certainly see how it could be.
Like a double-message, one that could be taken in either of two different ways, depending on the reader.
There is the ‘taken at face-value’ interpretation, but I doubt that’s the interpretation that occurred to Gruesome, just as that would not be the interpretation of someone who was skeptical.
Gruesome would take it like someone whose secret had just been blown, and someone who travels in Gruesome’s circles would not take such a thing as a loving statement, but as an attack. But he couldn’t respond to it as if it was an attack, because of the way Dr. Malone presented it.
I took it as a very calculated statement, to do exactly what he did, which was to bring attention to something that was being blacked out by the MSM, about one of the bad guys, and do it in a way that was very safe and unlikely to draw anyone’s ire.
I took it that way because from the few videos I have seen of Dr. Malone, I get the impression that he understands a lot more than he lets on, i.e., he is very careful to say the ‘right’ things, and when he has to say something that the crazies will try to make controversial, he says it in a way that doesn’t leave himself open to easy attack.
Careful and calculated. Not in a sinister way, but in a practiced professional way, in the way someone does when they’ve been playing “avoid the gotcha” for so long, that it has become second nature.
It demonstrates both a clear knowledge of the boundaries of the PC box, and the ability to not go beyond those boundaries, without having to think about it too hard, because he is accustomed to it.
So I didn’t take it as a ‘loving’ statement, and I doubt Gruesome took it that way.
It sounded to me like Dr. Malone was blowing Gruesome’s secret.
Not that he was happy at anyone being ill, more like one of the good guys exposing a cover-up, and doing so in a way that doesn’t cause any blowback, because there is enough plausible deniability built in to the statement that it could be taken either way.
Either as a ‘loving’ statement of concern, or “you’re secret has just been exposed”, depending on the reader.
Which is the kind of thing a white hat ought to do, and they should do it a lot more often.
I don’t know if my interpretation is correct, it was just interesting that we had different reactions to it.
Amen, well AND succinctly said!
“For me, the reason is not ‘conventional wisdom.’
Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.”
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I did not say anything about revenge or wrath.
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“We are told to pray for our enemies.”
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When we pray for our enemies, should we pray that they see the error of their way and repent, or should we pray that they continue in their evil deeds?
Assuming it is the former, how does wishing a speedy recovery to an unrepentant mass-murderer not result in the latter?
“We are told to love them. It is impossible to love someone while wishing them severely ill or dead.”
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Again, no one here is wishing him ill or death, so far as I am aware.
From the beginning, my question has been whether it is right to wish someone well, if the consequence of our well wishes results in harm or death to innocent people.
I’m not wishing death on Gruesome — I’m asking whether it is moral or right to wish that Gruesome should be able to continue in causing death to others.
If some Roman was going around murdering Jesus’ apostles in the 1st century, and the murderer suddenly became ill, would it be right to wish him a speedy recovery, put a dagger in his hand, and tell him where the rest of his intended victims could be found?
This isn’t some random guy we’re talking about. Due to his position, Gruesome has power over the life and death of millions of people.
And it is not life which he seeks, but their death.
Should we wish him well in that endeavor?
Is that ‘loving’ him — or his intended victims?
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We have to pray for him somehow – and it’s tough – so we have to pray very carefully, IMO. I think praying that he SEE THE LIGHT AND LIVE, thus changed, would be proper.
Amen!
How do you know the consequences of your well wishes?
Do you think that Dr. Malone’s typing on a keyboard that he hopes Newsom recovers quickly will have consequences of harm or death to innocent people?
Do you think that praying for Newsom will have consequences of harm or death to innocent people?
It is up to God, and Him alone, to answer prayer or not, as He sees fit and in the ways He sees fit. His ways are not our ways. It never works to attribute our limited ways of thinking to Him.
What do you think loving your enemies means?
Look up seventy times seven. Consider this:
Matthew 18:21-35:
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
That’s rough stuff there!!!
“Look up seventy times seven. Consider this:”
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Yes, but what does that have to do with Gruesome?
Is Gruesome a fellow servant, or a viscous tyrant, lording power abusively over others?
Has he recognized his evil ways, and repented of them? Has he asked his victims for their forgiveness?
In the passage you cited, the ‘wicked servant’ failed to show compassion on his fellow servant, when his fellow servant fell at his feet and pleaded for compassion.
Has Gruesome done anything like that — at all?
For an example, if someone is in the process of beating you down, do you forgive them as they prepare to strike you, and as they strike you, and as they wind up to strike you again, and keep forgiving them was you receive each blow?
Or does one necessarily have to wait until the beating stops, before forgiveness can be contemplated?
If one is superhuman, I suppose they could forgive someone a hundred times throughout the course of a beating. I suspect most people could not do that.
We do have the example of Stephen, forgiving those who had stoned him to death, just before he died, with Saul of Tarsus in attendance (Acts 7:58-60).
That was an extraordinary act of compassion by Stephen toward his murderers, likely emulating Jesus’ example:
“Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.” (Luke 23:34, KJV)
It would certainly be a triumph of the spirit to emulate such loving kindness.
Something we may strive for, as we grow and mature as a Christian.
It would likely take a very mature Christian to forgive his own murderers with his dying breath.
“Those things are in God’s purview, and His alone.”
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Then why should we be interjecting ourselves, to wish a speedy recovery to an unrepentant mass-murderer?
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“I don’t feel love for Newsom, but I can pray that he will wake up, turn from his ways, and turn to God.”
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Very much agreed!
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“I can also pray for his health and welfare while hoping for earthly justice.”
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This is where it gets confusing.
Let’s leave earthly justice aside, as that is a separate issue.
IF the result or consequence of our prayer for his health RESULTS in the murder of thousands of people, then should we do such a thing?
It’s almost as if I can hear Paul screaming, ‘God forbid!’
It makes no sense.
How is it not tantamount to praying for your enemy to murder someone?
Person ‘A’ is a mass-murderer, who wants to murder a whole lot more people. Then Person ‘A’ gets sick, interrupting his mass-murder spree.
Person ‘B’ comes along, and wishes Person ‘A’ well, wishes him a speedy recovery, so Person ‘A’ can go on his merry way of mayhem and mass-murder.
I don’t get it… 😂
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“But it is ultimately in God’s hands, not mine. My duty is to try to be obedient, even though it can be extremely hard and I fail often.”
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Agreed, and likewise.
In order to be obedient, do we not first need to understand?
Is there any example in Scripture, where someone who was sick was prayed over to be healed, when the known, direct and immediate consequence of the prayed-for healing would be the death of thousands of innocent people — committed or caused by the person who was ill?
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Person ‘A’ has a loaded gun in his hand, and he tells Person ‘B’ that he is going to murder the person across the room (Person ‘C’), he just doesn’t have the strength to raise the gun, because he is too ill.
Person ‘B’ has the cure to Person ‘A’s malady.
If Person ‘B’ gives Person ‘A’ the cure, Person ‘A’ will murder Person ‘C’.
Should Person ‘B’ give Person ‘A’ the cure, so long as Person ‘A’ still has the capacity to carry out the intended murder?
If Person ‘B’ does give Person ‘A’ the cure, and Person ‘A’ immediately revives and carries through his announced threat to murder Person ‘C’, then is Person ‘B’ not an accomplice to the crime?
I’m glad that both sides of this question are being relentless on this, because Christ KNEW this was not an “easy command” – and IMO if you “pray easily for your enemies”, it is likely more of a moral vanity than following the command.
I think Christ is saying God will do His part, and we should do ours. Pray for the individual, but do NOT pray for mayhem. Pray for reformation of the individual, and the salvation of victims – ALL victims.
Very insightful. It is not easy to pray for our enemies. It is not even easy to have faith that God will do His part.
Yes, this.
Lord I believe, help Thou my unbelief!
“Is there any example in Scripture, where someone who was sick was prayed over to be healed, when the known, direct and immediate consequence of the prayed-for healing would be the death of thousands of innocent people — committed or caused by the person who was ill?”
Not exactly what you asked but in the vicinity…
2 Kings 20
New International Version
Hezekiah’s Illness20 In those days Hezekiah became ill and was at the point of death. The prophet Isaiah son of Amoz went to him and said, “This is what the Lord says: Put your house in order, because you are going to die; you will not recover.”
2 Hezekiah turned his face to the wall and prayed to the Lord, 3 “Remember, Lord, how I have walked before you faithfully and with wholehearted devotion and have done what is good in your eyes.” And Hezekiah wept bitterly.
4 Before Isaiah had left the middle court, the word of the Lord came to him: 5 “Go back and tell Hezekiah, the ruler of my people, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of your father David, says: I have heard your prayer and seen your tears; I will heal you. On the third day from now you will go up to the temple of the Lord. 6 I will add fifteen years to your life. And I will deliver you and this city from the hand of the king of Assyria. I will defend this city for my sake and for the sake of my servant David.’”
Then later in the same chapter (AND boy would I LOVE Steve to tackle the shadow on the stairs verses w/ his physics mind)
16 Then Isaiah said to Hezekiah, “Hear the word of the Lord: 17 The time will surely come when everything in your palace, and all that your predecessors have stored up until this day, will be carried off to Babylon. Nothing will be left, says the Lord. 18 And some of your descendants, your own flesh and blood who will be born to you, will be taken away, and they will become eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon.”
19 “The word of the Lord you have spoken is good,” Hezekiah replied. For he thought, “Will there not be peace and security in my lifetime?”
Manasseh, Hezekiah’s son was only 12 years old when he became king. He was obviously conceived during the 15 grace years following H’s healing. He was a genocidal disaster!!!
2 Kings 21
Manasseh led them astray, so that they did more evil than the nations the Lord had destroyed before the Israelites.
10 The Lord said through his servants the prophets: 11 “Manasseh king of Judah has committed these detestable sins. He has done more evil than the Amorites who preceded him and has led Judah into sin with his idols. 12 Therefore this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: I am going to bring such disaster on Jerusalem and Judah that the ears of everyone who hears of it will tingle. 13 I will stretch out over Jerusalem the measuring line used against Samaria and the plumb line used against the house of Ahab. I will wipe out Jerusalem as one wipes a dish, wiping it and turning it upside down. 14 I will forsake the remnant of my inheritance and give them into the hands of enemies. They will be looted and plundered by all their enemies; 15 they have done evil in my eyes and have aroused my anger from the day their ancestors came out of Egypt until this day.”
16 Moreover, Manasseh also shed so much innocent blood that he filled Jerusalem from end to end—besides the sin that he had caused Judah to commit, so that they did evil in the eyes of the Lord.
“Not exactly what you asked but in the vicinity…”
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2 Kings is Old Testament, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, love your neighbor and hate your enemy:
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.” (Matthew 5:43, KJV)
I considered limiting my question to the New Testament, but after considering it, I couldn’t think of an example in either Testament that satisfied the conditions, so I left it open to the entirety of the Scriptures.
In Gruesome, there is a man who holds power over life and death of millions of Californians.
I am not aware of any example in Scripture — New Testament or Old — where the well-being or healing of anyone was prayed for, to enable (or result in) that person to continue in his murderous ways.
Moreover, I don’t know how to reconcile doing so with the rest of Christian doctrine.
If someone is a known mass-murderer, whose actions are clearly announced and whose intentions are to continue on that path, how would it be a good or Christian thing to do, to pray for that person’s physical recovery (as opposed to a spiritual recovery), having every reason to believe that if he indeed recovers, he will continue to murder countless more innocent people?
I’m not even speaking of Gruesome personally, I mean as a general principle or concept.
We are to love our enemy. I am not yet understanding how that equates to becoming an enabler of the enemy’s grotesquely sinful objectives, and I do not recall any Scriptural example of any such thing.
It doesn’t.
I guess in the scriptural example I gave you Could say that God Himself was the enabler of Hezekiah’s AND Manasseh’s evil actions. which reminds me of the beginning of Job where God points Satan in Job’s direction. Don’t think I’ve Ever heard a sermon tackling that conundrum 😉
Some things are too lofty for me to understand, let alone explain. God knows the beginning from the end. His healing of Hezekiah lead Directly to the plunder & destruction of Judah/Israel. Granting those 15 years allowed Manasseh to come into being. Why not just give H 10 years AND avoid all the future heartache?
Since we don’t know the future, yes, we should pray for our enemies because that is what we are commanded to do. It seems presumptuous to think we know what will happen, and it also seems like placing limitations on God. You “don’t get it” because you presume to know what is going to happen. You have to set that aside and trust God.
No, we don’t. How could we possibly understand all the ways of the Creator of the universe, who knows every thought of every person, and who knows the entire picture? I have seen miraculous things happen, things that I could never have brought about myself, things that I could never have guessed would happen. The amount that we don’t know, and don’t understand, is infinite. That’s where trusting God comes in, because He knows everything.
You still haven’t answered the question: What do you think it means to love your enemy? No Socratic questions, no persuasive rhetoric, just: What do you think that means? What is that telling you to do, in concrete terms? How do you treat your enemy?
“Since we don’t know the future, yes, we should pray for our enemies because that is what we are commanded to do.”
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Certainly we can pray for our enemies, but where does it say we should pray for our enemies to be physically healed so they can murder us?
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“It seems presumptuous to think we know what will happen,”
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It would be presumptuous if Gruesome had not murdered anyone yet, and gave no indication of a desire to do so.
It seems like it would be gross folly however, to pretend as if he might not, after he has already done so, and clearly supports doing more of the same.
Being Christian does not mean taking leave of our senses.
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“…and it also seems like placing limitations on God.”
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Not at all, if God wants Gruesome dead, He could strike him down at any moment, and no amount of praying on Gruesome’s behalf would stop it.
My question and concern is what a Christian ought to do, based on the context of a given situation, as opposed to blind adherence to a principle or concept for which I am aware of no similar example in Scripture.
If we manage to do as Scripture commands, we are doing quite well.
If we go beyond what Scripture says, then whose will are we doing?
God’s, or Man’s?
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“You “don’t get it” because you presume to know what is going to happen.”
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We know what Gruesome has already done, and we know what he intends to keep doing, because he tells us at every opportunity.
Is it presumptuous to believe he will do as he has done and as he has said he will do?
Or is it presumptuous to believe he will do otherwise?
“And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?” (Matthew 16:3, KJV)
Can we not discern what the mass-murderer has already done, and should we not discern what he says he will continue to do?
This is not so complicated.
A question arose over forgiveness at church one time. Someone asked if we should forgive a child molester. The answer given was that yes, if he is sincere and repents, we are to forgive.
But we don’t leave him alone to conduct a children’s class, because that would be stupid (my paraphrase). His repentance may be sincere, but it would be grossly unwise, negligent and reckless endangerment, to put such a person in a position of such great potential temptation, and risk sexual molestation of the children.
It’s nuts.
You’d have to be stark raving nuts.
And that is an example concerning someone who is sincerely repentant.
Gruesome isn’t repentant at all, quite the opposite, he’s gleeful about his abuse of power.
If he murdered countless people yesterday, and murdered countless more people today, it is not presumptuous to think he will murder countless people tomorrow too, even bragging (by his policies) that he intends to do so.
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“You have to set that aside and trust God.”
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Set what aside?
Our capacity to reason, to utilize the good sense God gave us?
Don’t we need that?
How can we begin to understand His Word — or anything else — without it?
No, we don’t.
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Certainly we can agree that in a general sense, we must understand in order to be obedient.
When Phillip heard the Ethiopian reading Isaiah, and Phillip asked if he understood what he read, did the Ethiopian not reply how can I, unless some man tells me?
“And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? [31] And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.” (Acts 8:30-31, KJV)
Did Jesus not inquire of (and therefore expect) men with regard to their understanding of the Scriptures?
“He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?” (Luke 10:26)
Is our belief to be blind, or with understanding?
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“How could we possibly understand all the ways of the Creator of the universe, who knows every thought of every person, and who knows the entire picture?”
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It’s quite a leap to go from understanding that an unrepentant mass-murderer is extremely likely to continue to murdering, to understanding all the ways of the Creator of the universe!
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“I have seen miraculous things happen, things that I could never have brought about myself, things that I could never have guessed would happen. The amount that we don’t know, and don’t understand, is infinite. That’s where trusting God comes in, because He knows everything.”
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No question that God knows everything, and no question that the amount we don’t understand is practically infinite (we must understand at least a tiny bit, or we wouldn’t even be able to have this discussion).
And no doubt that we should trust God.
Does that mean we should close our eyes or turn the headlights off at night while driving?
Or would that be foolish, and reckless?
Context and common sense and understanding, don’t all of these things matter?
Does “Love your enemy” mean standing by and allowing a home invader to murder your family, even though you have the power to stop it, because to do anything to stop him wouldn’t be trusting God?
It’s an absurd or extreme way to make the point, but I’m not sure how else to make it, because it doesn’t seem like we’re communicating.
If “love your enemy” does not mean allowing a home invader to murder your family, then by definition, context is required, understanding is required, interpretation is required.
If I am wrong in my understanding, help my understanding.
Reason with me, out of the Scriptures.
Show me.
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“You still haven’t answered the question: What do you think it means to love your enemy? No Socratic questions, no persuasive rhetoric, just: What do you think that means? What is that telling you to do, in concrete terms? How do you treat your enemy?”
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I replied to that question at 00:47 this morning, so you did not have the opportunity to see it when you posted this at 00:36, I was still writing my reply at the time 🙂
General observations:
Regarding understanding commands, Abraham obeyed God without understanding or knowing what would happen when he was told to sacrifice his son. Human logic tells us that the son would die. Of course that didn’t happen.
Your assumption that you know what will happen — i.e., that a person is going to “continue to kill” — fails to acknowledge the infinite number of possibilities of what God can do in our hearts, in the hearts of others, and in the physical realm. His Word is full of paradoxes.
Your arguments do not acknowledge the profound effects that obedience and prayer for others have on us.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
…unless you think they will kill others; then don’t pray for their well-being. That is not what I think that means.
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
“General observations:
Regarding understanding commands, Abraham obeyed God without understanding or knowing what would happen when he was told to sacrifice his son. Human logic tells us that the son would die. Of course that didn’t happen.”
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Is there not more to it than that?
Our differences seem to keep returning to the issue of blind obedience vs. obedient faith.
There are many passages teaching understanding, and that God is a God of reason. (e.g., Isaiah 1:18).
We have Paul saying “What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.” (1 Corinthians 14:15, KJV)
Hosea 4:6 begins with “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:”
Knowledge of what?
God’s Word.
The rest of Hosea 4:6 – “because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”
And we have example to test what men say against the Scriptures, to see for ourselves, whether the things men say are true. (e.g., Acts 17:11).
And we have example of Apollos reasoning directly from the Scriptures:
“For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.” (Acts 18:28, KJV, boldface emphasis mine)
And Paul: “And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,” (Acts 17:2, KJV, boldface emphasis mine).
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Back to Abraham.
Is it entirely true that Abraham did not know what would happen when he was told to sacrifice his son?
There is more to it, isn’t there?
What did Abraham say to his servants, when he took his son Isaac to be sacrificed?
“And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.” (Genesis 22:5, KJV, boldface emphasis mine)
When Isaac noticed and commented that there was no lamb for the sacrifice, what did Abraham say to him?
“And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.” (Genesis 22:8)
Remember, Abraham had received the promises of God (Genesis 12:1-3), and in Genesis 17:19, before God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac:
“And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.” (Genesis 17:19, boldface emphasis mine)
Abraham knew these things. Did Abraham not reason to himself, that either God would not have him go through with the sacrifice, or else God would raise Isaac from the dead after the sacrifice?
Because if one of those two things was not true, then how could God fulfill his promise to Abraham, that in Isaac shall thy seed be called, quoted in Genesis 17:19?
Does that sound farfetched, that Abraham would have thought such a thing, using human logic?
It’s not my own conclusion, it is according to the writer of Hebrews, given by inspiration of God:
“By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, [18]
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: [19] Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.” (Hebrews 11:17-19, KJV, boldface emphasis mine)
“Your assumption that you know what will happen — i.e., that a person is going to “continue to kill” — fails to acknowledge the infinite number of possibilities of what God can do in our hearts, in the hearts of others, and in the physical realm.
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But I don’t need to assume anything, I have an obligation to exercise sound judgment, and in order to do that, we must observe and then discern based on experience and knowledge.
That is human reality.
God can certainly do whatever He pleases, and our understanding may be confounded, but as human beings living in a real world, we have a duty and obligation, for survival, to exercise sound judgment based on the reality of the world around us.
Suppose someone has murdered 50 people in a row, stabbing them to death right before your eyes, and you are next in line.
And his knife breaks.
You, as a sentient human being, would not be making a crazy leap of logic to conclude that if you give him your knife, or he gets another knife, the murders will resume with you, as you are next in line.
That’s not an ‘assumption’, it is a reasoned (and reasonable) conclusion, based on the reality that is taking place around you, is it not?
You’re not existing in a vacuum, are you?
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“His Word is full of paradoxes.”
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I don’t believe that is actually true, and I would not characterize God’s Word that way, it makes Him sound like He doesn’t know how to communicate with His own creation.
And it might reinforce the erroneous perception of someone outside the body of Christ that God’s Word is neither knowable nor understandable, so why even try?
In my experience, what at first may seem to be paradoxes frequently turn out to not be a paradox at all.
SteveinCo brought up one of his favorite paradoxes or tests awhile back, which he said everyone he had presented it to either dodged or had to concede that God’s Word contradicted itself, or words to that effect (I’m going by memory).
It took me a few days, before I discovered that the error was in the question as it was presented, and not in the Scriptures.
The question contained an error, and if you did not recognize that error, then the contradiction in the proposition as presented was unresolvable.
When I pointed out the error in the question, the conflict or paradox disappeared.
Wow, I just realized we shared some of the exact same scriptures (I hadn’t seen your comment yet), could be the Holy Spirit at work!
Love is definitely Not (just) a feeling. What God wants from Christians in loving our enemies is well apart from our feelings. Praying for them, ministering to their needs, speaking THE TRUTH IN LOVE, and more.
I want (& sometimes pray that) these evil doers will repent. Like Saul into Paul, like Abby Johnson, like Bernard Nathanson, like me! May they wake up AND turn to God. May they help expose the deeds of darkness (like that banker to the cabal) may God use their changed hearts for His purposes.
I want them to repent down here & change teams, to start working for the Good Guys. I want them held accountable for their crimes, but I desire that they would get right with God. If they refuse Him I want them to face swift earthly AND eternal judgement!
Here is what loving your enemy looks like, from a story told at church:
A woman in a foreign land suffered greatly. Her family was persecuted for their faith. Her husband AND son were butchered by marauding gangs of tribal criminals. She was left alone in heartache.
Some time passed & the murderer was caught & put on trial. The custom in the area was that she, the wronged person, would be allowed to pass judgement. She thought & wept & prayed AND
She demanded that the guilty man reveal the locations of the bodies of her husband & son so that they could be given a proper burial. She then said that the murderer was guilty AND his sentence would be that he would have to live with her as if he were her son. He had obviously not been brought up right so she would correct those mistakes of his childhood. She would become his mother…
She took the man who’d taken everyone from her to her bosom AND cared for his needs. She cooked & cleaned & clothed him. She taught him the Bible. She lived her genuine life of faith in front of him. This man, overwhelmed by her Love, gave his life to Christ.
This man, her enemy, who was a murderer became an evangelist. The woman he’d so violently wronged was instrumental in helping him build a New Life. His Life in Christ lead Many Other People to the Kingdom of God! A mighty harvest, watered by the blood of martyrs & the deep Christian love of a woman of unshakable faith.
That is loving your enemy–to the Lord!!!
What a story! It’s so hard for us to do, but her love resulted in such blessings. I also pray for us to be delivered from evil and also that they will repent and turn to God.
Yes!
Amen.
GOD can cure anything. Even the soul. We must pray for his (and others’) complete healing, INCLUDING HIS SOUL. Whether he accepts that or not, is up to him. For he will face eternal judgement in any case, so this is perhaps a wakeup call to him.
There’s a website/newsletter Voice of the Martyrs that tells of the terrible things that happen to Christians being persecuted the world over ( https://www.persecution.com ). What those people endure, and how they are able to forgive those who persecute and abuse them is amazing. And humbling.
Here’s hoping and praying that not just the ChiCom flu and the clot shot effects are cured, but the COVIDIOCY and rampant NAZI power plays and evil being done worldwide are ended… and the deep state routed out and eliminated.
“Also, some people subscribe to the idea that these things are up to God.”
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If it’s up to God, then should we be interjecting ourselves with well-wishes?
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“I wouldn’t wish any kind of illness or death on anyone.”
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I’m not aware that anyone wished him illness or death.
I’m just curious why anyone would wish him well, the consequence of which would be that he can continue murdering people.
I don’t understand that, so I’m trying to understand it, through questioning.
I’ve seen it over and over on different sites when this kind of thing happens. The general consensus is that the person deserves whatever happens, and many people express hope that they will suffer and/or die.
What do you think it means to love your enemy?
“I’ve seen it over and over on different sites when this kind of thing happens.”
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I was referring to here, I should have been clearer.
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“What do you think it means to love your enemy?”
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Does it mean we wish the enemy a speedy recovery so he can murder more people?
I’m not being flippant, I’m serious!
If the consequence of our well wishes results in harm or death to others, is that something we should do?
We’re not talking about a politician who took a bribe or a city councilman who gave a city construction contract to his brother-in-law.
We’re talking about mass-murder and crimes against humanity.
And if he is able, there is every reason to believe he will commit a lot more crimes against humanity in the future.
Is it moral, is it just, is it Christian, to wish such a person well, that he is able to resume his mass-murdering ways?
Does loving one’s enemy mean we are to approve or encourage or facilitate the enemy’s evil deeds?
Is that not tantamount to approval of his evil deeds?
Are there not many passages in Scripture where to love someone requires their admonishment or punishment for wrongdoing?
Should we not love our enemy similarly, especially if sparing the rod and spoiling the child will result in mass-murder?
Respectfully, you did not answer the question.
Let’s start with scripture.
Matthew 5: 43-48
Love for Enemies43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
This whole chapter, which begins with the Beatitudes, is actually quite mind-blowing. Jesus is turning people’s understanding of basic scriptural &/or cultural norms almost completely upside down. So for starters it is unlikely that any of us can Fully grasp or convey All that “loving your enemy” might mean.
From this chapter it would seem that Jesus is using multiple examples of scripture where the Deep Meaning is well beyond the superficial understanding. God’s ways are literally not our ways. God’s ways are higher than our ways, Praise the Lord!
Romans 12: 17-21
17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e]
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
That last verse is a good answer to your Q, at least in part! Blessings
Thank you! We needed it straight from THE WORD!!!
Amen. Let God be true & every man a liar. After all our “righteousness” is as filthy rags. Thanks be to God who has gotten us the Victory!
Yes. Thank you for that thoughtful post.
YW
“Respectfully, you did not answer the question.”
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I answered it indirectly, by asking questions which were intended to provoke thought and further discussion.
Which is also a technique employed in Scripture.
But I can answer directly too, it just may not be as productive. We’ll see 😁
You asked “What do you think it means to love your enemy?”
I don’t think it means sanctioning or consenting to or condoning the enemy’s actions (I am not suggesting you claimed otherwise, just presenting a contrast with what will follow).
I think it means to act in what you believe to be your enemy’s best interest, in the same way we ought to love our neighbor.
If we love our neighbor as we love ourselves, we would act in our neighbor’s best interest, in the same way that we would act in our own best interest.
Which may be difficult to do, because there may be a conflict of interest between one’s own hope or desire (interest) and what would be — objectively, to the extent it is knowable — in our neighbor’s best interest.
A relationship with a neighbor is hopefully neutral (acquaintance) or positive (friend), whereas the relationship with an enemy is antagonistic, which complicates or compounds the conflict of interest even further.
In the case of a mass-murderer, his own interest (desire) is to murder more people.
Clearly it is not in the interest of his intended victims (the people of California) to be murdered.
The People of California did not make Gruesome their enemy. Gruesome, by his actions, made himself the enemy of the People.
He is the actor, and they are the proposed acted upon.
His motive (desire, interest) is hostile, aggressive and deadly.
Their motive (desire, interest) is self-defense and survival.
Gruesome wants to continue murdering Californians, and Californians don’t want to be murdered, so there is a conflict of interest between the two parties.
Taking the position (momentarily, hypothetically) of a Californian, how can I love my enemy, who wants to murder me?
If we try to “love” by attempting to enable him to realize his desire to murder more Californians, is that either the spirit or the intent of the instruction to “love your enemy”?
Praying for his body to be healed before his spirit, thereby, if the prayers are answered, enabling him to continue his murder spree?
I don’t believe so.
If I am to love my enemy, then I do not want his soul to be lost, in the same way that I do not want my own to be lost.
If my enemy is an unrepentant mass-murderer, am I doing him (or myself) any favors, by enabling or facilitating his wicked ways?
Wishing him a speedy recovery, while he still holds a gun in his hand with the intent to use it upon recovery, i.e., facilitating his ability to commit murder, is certainly not ‘loving’ him (not to mention the innocent souls he seeks to murder).
So if I am to “love my enemy”, and my enemy seeks to murder, then it seems the first step — before healing or any other such thing — is to prevent my enemy from murdering anyone. Protecting the innocent from the murderer, and the murderer from himself.
That is in the best interest (of the soul) of the once and future (intended) murderer, and certainly also in the best interest of the murderer’s intended victims.
If we put the interests of all of the souls involved first and foremost, then we will protect the innocent from being harmed — which also protects the murderer from doing (further) harm to his own soul.
In that way, we demonstrate love for both the intended victims and their would-be murderer.
So restraining the murderer from committing any more murder is the necessary first step — for their sake, and his.
And who can know whether God caused his illness?
If it was God’s will that Gruesome should become sick (I don’t know that he is sick, this is just an exploratory hypothetical), should we find ourselves in a position of fighting against God, praying for God to undo Himself, so that the murderer can continue murdering?
If we love our enemy, and we put our enemy’s soul as the higher priority over the enemy’s physical well-being, we should be aligned with God, Who desires that all men should be saved.
And if it is God’s will that he be healed physically afterwards, then he certainly will be.
If we put our enemy’s physical well-being as a higher priority than his soul, then it may be that we find ourselves acting against God’s will, and against the enemy’s best interest, and against our own best interest.
Whether our enemy, our neighbor or ourselves, ultimately the highest concern is the soul. If we love our neighbor as we love ourselves, and if we love ourselves as we should, then we will love our enemy by caring for his soul first, and his physical well-being second.
In that way everyone’s true/highest interest is served, and in alignment with God.
Maybe this is a better answer after all.
By caring for the enemy’s soul, everyone’s interest (perpetrator and intended victims) is aligned.
The conflict of interest is resolved, allowing us to love our enemy as our neighbor, and as ourselves.
How do you put Newsom’s soul first as you love him, your enemy? What exactly does that mean, in concrete terms?
“How do you put Newsom’s soul first as you love him, your enemy? What exactly does that mean, in concrete terms?”
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If I was in a position to physically restrain him from murdering anyone else, that would be loving his soul and the souls of his intended victims.
I am not in a position to physically restrain him, so it appears that prayer is currently the best recourse.
So the next question becomes, what should I pray?
If he is actually ill (I don’t know if he is), I can think of several things to pray, but why would any of them result in his enhanced ability to do harm to others?
Why would I want that on my conscience, and why would anyone else, if they stopped long enough to think it through?
I’ll go back to the Hitler example. If Hitler had become ill, and you prayed that he would be healed, the obvious result being that he could resume leading the Third Reich and murder millions more innocent people, and that prayer was answered, who wants that on their conscience?
I don’t know, but I am reasonably confident that hundreds of millions of people were praying every day that Hitler would be stopped, by whatever means necessary.
Were they wrong? Should they have been praying instead for Hitler’s continued good health, and that none of the many attempted assassinations would succeed, so that Hitler could have more time to change his evil ways, whilst murdering his way through Europe, on a scale that is only now being eclipsed, some 76 years later, by Gruesome and his multinational gang of thugs, in a covert biological war of global genocide?
In concrete terms, it seems the best thing I can do is pray for Gruesome’s soul.
Pray that he has a change of heart, pray that recognizes his insanely evil ways and repents.
Pray that his efforts to murder more Californians will fail, both for the good of his own soul and for theirs (not to mention for the good of their lives being spared).
Is his biggest problem physical, or spiritual?
Which need is more urgent — both for himself, and for all the people of California?
Don’t their needs matter?
Why is Gruesome’s physical well-being the primary subject of all these many words?
What about the physical well-being of his innocent victims?
How is it that they and their well-being become so easily lost in this discussion?
We pray that murderers get caught! And stopped!
Beautifully stated–thanks!
“Whether our enemy, our neighbor or ourselves, ultimately the highest concern is the soul. If we love our neighbor as we love ourselves, and if we love ourselves as we should, then we will love our enemy by caring for his soul first, and his physical well-being second.
In that way everyone’s true/highest interest is served, and in alignment with God.
Maybe this is a better answer after all.
By caring for the enemy’s soul, everyone’s interest (perpetrator and intended victims) is aligned.
The conflict of interest is resolved, allowing us to love our enemy as our neighbor, and as ourselves.”
AND Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, & strength! 😇
“What do you think it means to love your enemy?”
Because of his illness,there is always the possibility that Gavin Newsome may have his own ‘Road to Damascus’ kind of radical conversion that changes his entire outlook. Not necessarily a religious one.
Very interesting insight. Saul was a chief murderer of Christians before being blinded & meeting the Lord. Scales fell from his eyes when the faithful believer Ananias prayed for him AND Paul became the most prolific writer in the New Testament & a powerful force in God’s Kingdom in this world!
Saul was definitely a zealot when it came to persecuting Christians. I remember some Christians having doubts about his conversion being genuine, and were wary of him.
Absolutely understandable. I think Ananias informed the Lord about just what kind of man God was sending him to, for healing. giggle 🙂
Right and children are on the sacrificial altar now so…no sympathy from me
Yep, that needs to stop, all of it.
One always hopes that every experience is a teacher.
Or the Lord is working…
One can hope 🙂
No doubt!
And Gov. Polis Colorado. He is being protected.
https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2021/06/28/investigation-demanded-into-nursing-home-deaths-under-poliss-watch/
But probably not by God 🙂
I clicked on that “LifeLove” tweet, and Twitter says that page doesn’t exist. Already taken down, I guess.
That is weird.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/ is Robert F Kennedy Jr.’s site about childhood vaccine injuries.
I am getting:
That makes me think that the tweet is true and they are taking down not only the twwet but also
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/gov-g….
I get:
DDoS Attack Protection by “Cloudfare” first.
…does Google own Cloudflare?
I also was denied access to the site because “a timeout occurred” while it was trying to verify my device. I imagine the site is getting hammered.
The sites back up now. The story is down, which likely allowed the site to go back up. Meantime all the conservatize sites posted his site was down and now they’ll check and be exposed to his site. Good news as it’s a good site and there are many conservatives that have taken the vax and still think the vax is good.
I’m still thinking he got a “procedure” to make him more handscum…maybe all those joker memes made him want to contour his face
No idea if TWverse is popping with Grewsome GBS. Nor FB.
Looked at Faux News and BB. Nothing.
Google search “Newsome GBS” popped one report.
FTA
Gavin Newsom Had Major Adverse Reaction to Moderna Booster Shot: Sources
^^^ (Note. Plural sourceS.) ^^^
https://noqreport.com/2021/11/08/gavin-newsom-had-major-adverse-reaction-to-moderna-booster-shot-sources/
NO denials found. My GUESS is GBS IS true. AND, because GBS has “leaked” out, confirmation tomorrow morning.
IF GBS IS true, a HUGE PR problem for EVERYTHING Covid injection. Yea, that IS an understatement.
Tuesday’s news could be very lively and interesting.
GWP: Kamala has the lowest approval rating of any “VP” in US history, at 28%. And this is the heir to the throne if JB has to leave. Dems must be in a panic.
Likely NOT a popular thought, but, Joe’s gotta go.
AND, as my ball cap being embroidered reflects, Joe & Hoe Gotta Go.
Status quo IS 100% unacceptable.
You better have a plan for Nan as well then, since she is third in line for the presidency.
Understand.
Nan third in line at this point.
IF Joe goes, Hoe steps up. Hoe nominates a VP. Requires both Senate and Congress confirmation. Guessing hildabeast worms her way in.
That in itself is another problem. My bottom line is, status quo IS unacceptable. Tantamount to accepting America being destroyed as we watch.
IT ALL A NIGHTMARE.
“Kamala has the lowest approval rating of any “VP” in US history, at 28%.”
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I suspect part of the problem is that a lot of people don’t even know who she is… 😂🤣😂
Catturd: “I’ve noticed Gavin Newsom demands to know your medical history – but doesn’t want us to know his.”
More info on what Gavin Newsom might be dealing with. This link is likely getting heavy traffic.
https://noqreport.com/2021/11/08/gavin-newsom-had-major-adverse-reaction-to-moderna-booster-shot-sources/
That article is saying it is either Bell’s Palsy or Gullian Barre Syndrome.
Bell’s Palsy may have been the initial diagnosis, but changed afterwards.
Not that either is good. GBS worse, more difficult to treat?
FWIW, Malone cited GBS.
GBS is very serious and would require hospitalization. A public figure’s absence for a long time would have to be explained. Bell’s Palsy would be noticeable and would also require an explanation if he tried to wait until it resolved, or if he made public appearances with the condition. I can’t imagine his wanting to do that. Newsom’s spokespeople, including his wife, can’t escape questions about links between the vax and his condition.
I hope tf there’s no aphereses available.
but as a swamp Denison it will be provided. Unless the swamp feels he’s a danger to them. This might be his trunk music
“Unless the swamp feels he’s a danger to them. This might be his trunk music”
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… his trunk music… 😂
From the article:
Also from the article:
What I would find most shocking would be the fact that Newscum took the jab at all … I’d guess that most elites would stay away from the Evil Juice from Betelgeuse.
Let’s Go Brandon!
Poetic justice?
IF it is true, SHOULD put a dagger in “mandatory” injections. Fatal for “mandatory” aspect of Covid injections.
IF this IS true, globalists likely didn’t factor Grewsome injection injured.
Getting ahead of the story line, YET potentially related. How functional is Grewsome. Able to perform as Governor. LtGov public actions will be scrutinized big time.
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Yea, I’m way over my skis. BUT, there are NO denials that I could locate.
I was already “hoping” to see the other genocidal Five Governors get what’s coming to them, good & hard.
My Christian self wants to see them repent & turn from their wicked ways & expose other insiders. At a minimum I hope God grants them each a sufficient moment to get right with Him before meeting Him face-to-face AND facing their final judgement!
Yes. If he will be out for a long time, the lt. gov. will have to start acting. But the cat’s out of the bag now; I think they are going to have to make a statement.
GWP has presented an alternative theory which COULD be disinformation or it COULD be “AND” logic.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/update-gov-newsoms-wife-defends-absence-deletes-tweet-panic/
It centers on THIS TWEET and the images, which appear to be Newscum, but I have no idea WHEN this wedding happened, or IF he attended after some limited recovery, or if it is PURE disinformation at this time (release picture of semi-secret wedding as chaff).
I strongly suspect that this is some kind of disinformation now. If it’s NOT, and if AND logic applies, then Newscum may have had Bell’s palsy, and a fast surgery to correct it, and did NOT go to the climate summit, but has the understanding of the top global goons that he was “saving the vax” by not going.
I didn’t know there was a surgery that could correct Bells Palsy.
It’s just for the eyelid droop, if it’s permanent. It’s the same surgery that’s used for certain other conditions that cause an eyelid droop.
They don’t operate unless there’s a failure to recover
True, but we’re talking GRUESOME. “It’s not how you feel – it’s how you look!” 😉
Very interesting. I was thinking that if he had Bell’s Palsy, a mask would cover it up.
EDIT: That is, if it only affected the mouth area.
The mask will cover up the mouth and cheek, and help hide the slurred speech, but it won’t cover up the eyelid – but surgery will!
The cynic is me is saying they’re scrambling to find and/or prep/train a body double for Newscum…
And the, erm, what-if? part of me is saying maybe he got a “Bot Shot” to enable remote control should various 25th Amendment and other events occur to [Fall Of The House Of]Usher him into the White House…
Getty… another of the “big four families” in Kalifornistan…
Speaking of London Breed and the incestuous politics of Nan Francisco and Kalifornistan, here’s an article from Frontpage Mag that is rather illuminating on that count.
( https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/06/mayor-london-breed-worst-and-most-overpaid-mayor-daniel-greenfield )
Here’s a brief excerpt:
“Our entire city is suffering now and we all need to do our part to share in that sacrifice,” Breed declared last year.
There were few sacrifices on show when Breed went partying at the French Laundry.
After Governor Gavin Newsom was caught violating his own rules at a party at the French Laundry restaurant where dining per person can run between $350 to $850, Breed was caught a day later at the birthday party of the daughter-in-law of a Hong Kong billionaire allied with the Communists who had urged the people of the city to be a “good son” to the Communist regime.
Both Newsom and Breed are proteges of Willie Brown. As is Kamala Harris.
To understand San Francisco, you have to understand Brown. The former mayor transformed the city and its political mafia consists of FOWs or Friends of Willie. And friends can be a polite term.
Everyone had something to offer Willie and he had something for them.
London Breed used to babysit Willie Brown’s kids. Brown moved her through the city’s system of political patronage with internships and appointments. Now Willie’s girl is in the White House, Willie’s boy is in the governor’s mansion, and his babysitter is running the city into the ground.
Breed borrowed Brown’s habit of blaming any criticism on racism.
And Brown hasn’t dropped the habit. “There is one problem we have not dealt with in this country and that is race,” the former political boss recently claimed.
At a speech the city’s black powerbroker who put his former mistress in the White House argued, “Have you ever heard of a black man being arrested for insider trading? Does this mean that the black man has a higher morality? No, but it does mean that the black man was never in a position to be able to commit insider trading,”
There’s no bigger insider than Willie Brown. No one has heard of him being arrested, but most city reformers still hold out hope for him and his mafia of oppressed political insiders.
Breed blamed the homeless crisis on “escalating housing costs”. Why are housing costs so high? That’s a question she can take up with Mr. Clean and his sugar daddy.
Last year, Breed posted that she had come clean about her relationship with Mr. Clean.
Mr. Clean was her “close, personal friend” Mohammed Nuru who had just been busted in a public corruption probe. The Nigerian immigrant who claimed to be, “Mr. Clean”, was being paid $380,000 a year to keep the city clean. And he was failing miserably at this task. Nuru was yet another crooked Brown crony who had funneled money to Breed. That was after he dated her.
In her post, Breed disclosed “a ‘gift’ of approximately $5,600 from Mohammed Nuru.” She also refused to fire her old boyfriend or disclose his gift until she absolutely had to.
Willie Brown is funding Nuru’s defense. No doubt out of the goodness of his heart.
(there’s much more at the link… and to think I was just looking to see what Breed was up to)…
There is one in Egypt 🙂 (sorry).
Speaking of Lt. Guv’nors in Kalifornistan, there have been some VERY interesting times when the Gov. and the Lt. were from different parties. I can’t remember the exact circumstances, but there was one time the Gov. was out of state, and the Lt. pulled a few things that got the Gov. quite bent out of shape…
Two weeks off-camera for Gruesome is rather unusual. I don’t wish him ill, I wish him well, and that his soul as well as his body recovers, that is, that he learns and turns… as well as the rest of his familiy (Auntie Nan, for one)…
I archived the article at https://archive.ph
and it said it was last archived an hour ago, so someone had already done it.
h/t Rodney Short
Could also be a genuine suicide of someone who had become dragged down with despair and had lost hope.
“CRITICAL SHOOTING/ MEDEVAC— Man found at Reflecting Pool on The Mall near Lincoln Memorial with gunshot to head. Eagle is flying him to a trauma center.”
H/t Citizen Free Press
Decertify!
This is so heartbreaking and evil.
According to Dr. Jane Ruby on the Stew Peters show, over 1 million 5-11 year olds were injected this weekend. This is just so evil.
Thomas Massie: “If vaccines are better than natural immunity (from prior infection) at preventing infection, why does the most vaccinated state in the US, Vermont (71.5% vaxxed), now have more infections per capita than Florida (59.9% vaxxed)?”
h/t Rodney Short
DePat should be informed that her Post has no comment-thingie. Since we have no other means of communication, I’m asking everyone to think about it really hard for a couple of minutes.
I took my Chevy to the levy
But the comment-thingy was gone…
Oops!
I drove my Chevy to the levee…
It’s fixed! I saw this comment a moment ago and fixed the setting. Not sure how it happened, but a stray click can result in “no comments” very easily.
Was this software developed for the White House Press Corps?
LOL!!! Microsoft needs a project codename: RED JEN.
Then a different click would result in a “circle back”.
Or a circle hack…. or serial hack…
Then they’d apply that to RED JENEDIT…. 🙂
Comment comment comment comment comment chameleon…. 🙂
(apologies to culture(d) club)…