Is the Freedom to Deceive Others About the Quality of Food and Drugs Really a Freedom We Want?

A Simple but Nagging Question Brought to Us by RFK Jr., “Sudden Death”, Unnaturally Red Salmon, and My Dearly Beloved Cheese Balls

I must begin this discussion by admitting that I’m very pro-freedom – and that includes the freedom to conduct honest business without government intervention – which intervention would include taxes. In fact, I have tended, over my lifetime, to scoff at people who want to restrict business over what I generally regard as unfounded allegations of harm.

Thus, I approached the following video, and its enclosing article, with some skepticism. Please read and watch, if you have not already.

Cory Booker? Do they mean, lying, hoaxing, finger-wagging Marxist Cory Booker?

Cory Booker, ally of the Maoist Obama minion Kamala Harris, and assisting perpetrator of the Jussie Smollett lynching hoax?

(No, Michelle Obama and Jussie Smollett didn’t really say that when they were laughing. This is called a “meme”. It’s a form of propaganda and satire. In this case, it is responding to propaganda, fraud, and deception perpetrated by Jussie Smollett, Kamala Harris, and Cory Booker.)

THAT Cory Booker?

So what video would HE promote? More hoaxes and lies?

Let’s take a look. But color me skeptical.

OK – there is a lot to unpack here. This will take a while.

Some background. I am both a scientist, and a lover of the history of science. Far too many scientists are NOT lovers of the history of science, because if they were, they would realize how bad scientists are at spotting the wrongness of contemporaneous science. Which is ALL THE TIME.

And, that would include me. Thankfully, I have often discovered my own wrongness in science within my own lifetime. We’ll get to that, as we move along here.

Now the first thing that irritated me about this video, is the way coal tar is used as a lead-in to attack a food dye called tartrazine, a.k.a. Yellow Number Five.

It almost sounds like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFKJ hereafter) is saying that tartrazine is obtained by draining it out of coal – or if not that, out of “coal tar”, which is somehow gotten out of coal.

Just a side point. Coal tar is a very useful substance, which is actually used as a medicine for treating skin problems.

So – just from the start, it’s not totally justified to demonize coal tar. Yet on the other hand, YES, thank you – hold the coal tar on my deli sandwich, please. It IS medicine, and can even cause cancer.

But FULL STOP. Back to the point. Tartrazine is not exactly “made from coal tar”. It is made from “organic” (carbon-containing) chemicals – basic organic chemicals – that can be made in a variety of ways, from a variety of things, including coal, petroleum, natural gas, biowaste, corn, soybeans, CO2 in the air, apples, healthy fruit – WHATEVER.

See what I’m saying? Tartrazine is being demonized by association. I was ready to bitchslap RFKJ here. Bear in mind that, years ago – before the COVID nightmare and revelations after that – I considered him a NUT – and would often say as much.

AND YET. If you know the history of science and organic chemistry, RFKJ has a point. A very valid point – in that association.

RJKJ clarifies in the video (3 min 6 sec) that tartrazine is now made almost entirely from chemicals which now come from petroleum – not coal tar. However, that original time period – the coal tar days – has something to teach us.

The discovery of synthetic dyes like tartrazine was back when mankind was in a state of “chemical hubris” not unlike the “biological hubris” of current times.

In the same way that we now look back and face-palm at the “irrational exuberance” of early organic and medicinal chemistry, which gave us the hormonal poison diethylstilbestrol (DES), injected into millions of pregnant women before we realized that it damaged their daughters, so we will one day look back at the “clot shot” – marveling at the combination of ignorance (most people), hubris (most scientists), and – behind layers of global governmental denial – malevolent or warped benevolent depopulation do-gooderism (top-secret scientists and psychopathic power players), that pushed bad experimental vaccines on an almost unsuspecting but increasingly skeptical public.

Once I was in the state of seeing the historical analogy, I was ready to realize that there is almost no excuse for allowing anything into food that is not food or a known nutrient.

If one asks WHY Yellow Number Five is in those wonderful-tasting but unnaturally yellow cheese balls, it is obvious – the chemical makes the cheese balls look “cheesier” in a weird but highly unnatural way. It’s psychological. It’s an “allowed psy-op” by makers of food.

Or take salmon. The last time I looked at a really good deal on salmon in the grocery store, I noticed that it was just a bit too strangely orange. Reading the label, there was an admission that the salmon “might” be treated with some dyes to keep it looking attractive.

Suddenly, the salmon didn’t look quite as good to me. It still looked reasonable, and I toyed with the idea of buying it. But I didn’t. In this post-mRNA world, I elected to put off a buy until I could do more research.

So now, after watching this video, I realize that RFKJ is correct. Dyes make foods more appealing, but they do so in a very deceptive way. To me, if dyes have ANY risks, putting them in food makes almost no sense, other than we are allowing “deception in the quality of food” as a kind of freedom. Well, murdering people, stealing their things, and doing other bad things to them are “freedoms” we used to have as humans – and we did away with those freedoms, while keeping most of the rest.

And yet, the enjoyment of food is right there in the Declaration of Independence.

Because I believe in freedom, including the pursuit of happiness in cheese balls and salmon, I don’t want to tell you what to believe, but I will tell you what I believe.

Some people may want vaccines with side effects and risks. I personally don’t, but I want those people to be free to have their vaccines – but not force them on me or my children. And I want the TRUTH about those vaccines to be KNOWN. Not just a little known – A LOT KNOWN.

Some people may want unnaturally yellow cheese balls. I certainly don’t – not any more. I would like some nice, corn-and-cheese-looking cheese balls that I know are healthy for me. But other people may want the yellow cheese balls with strange dyes. Is there a way that we BOTH can be happy? As the founding fathers wanted?

I would like to see more foods without risky, unnatural additives. I would like to see TRUTH IN FOOD and TRUTH IN DRUGS.

I think there is a way forward that will make America HEALTHIER, FREER, and TRUER.

But we have to be honest, if we want to get there.

And what do you know – there are now some people who believe in honesty! And they’re going to be in office, if we continue to support them!

https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/1858017711290232892

So what do you think? Can we have freedom, health, and unnaturally orange cheese balls?

Can we have vaccines for those who want them, and ivermectin for those who don’t?

Or will the corporate mafia and demonic cabal always try to control us through government, to make us accept their “right” to control us as lab rats?

You tell me!

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TradeBait2

Good points, Wolf.

If DOGE wins – there will be very little federal government left to infringe on our Constitutional rights.

Freedom to choose with details and transparency about the product seems to be the American way IMO.

kalbokalbs

Freedom to choose with details and transparency about the product seems to be the American way IMO.

^^^ Was about to post something similar. Albeit, likely in my clumsy way. thanks for cleaning it up.

RAC

Make it so that if a manufacturer produces food with additives they are required to produce the same amount of the same food at the same price but without additives or suffer some kind of financial penalty equal to the difference in quantities.

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Wolf Moon
thank you for this! There’s a lot to chew on (no pun intended.)
I think there’s a difference between doing something like putting extra color into Cheetos that makes the product look more “cheesy-orange” — and outright deception.
I think there’s a difference between making scientific advances in things like vaccines — and developing a “new combination vaccine” of Measles/Mumps + THREE types of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein added in:

https://pediatricsnationwide.org/2023/12/20/a-novel-measles-mumps-vaccine-delivers-multiple-sars-cov-2-variants-by-nose-drops/
20 December 2023
by Jessica Nye, PhD

Why in H3ll do SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins need to be in a Measles-Mumps vaccine? Why would these spike proteins need to be given to YOUNG CHILDREN, who have a
99%+ ability to recover from a COVID-19 virus infection?

IMO, the following are in play here:
One: Getting this “new combination vaccine” funded for “clinical trials”; then getting an EUA, then applying for a BLA (Biologics License), these from the FDA.
Two: Getting this “new combination vaccine” put onto the CDC’s Immunization Schedule for young children.
**** Three: The federal government making sure that YOUNG CHILDREN are “vaccinated” against COVID-19 EVEN IF THEIR PARENTS / GUARDIANS REFUSE COVID-19 “VACCINATION” FOR THEIR CHILD (CHILDREN.)
**** Four: The federal government making sure that the IMMUNE SYSTEMS OF YOUNG CHILDREN are compromised / destroyed by the mechanisms of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein — as are the IMMUNE SYSTEMS of almost all other people are compromised / destroyed by the mechanisms of the COVID-19 “vaccines” that THEY took, and continue to take.
Five: The “new combination vaccine” uses the spike protein of the original Wuhan Hu1 SARS-CoV-2 lab-created virus + the spike protein of the Delta variant + the spike protein of the Omicron BA.1. variant.

The paper regarding this “new combination vaccine”:

https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2220403120
“A next-generation intranasal trivalent MMS vaccine induces durable and broad protection against SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern”
Jianrong Li, et al.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

(Not having watched the video), I’d still say he’s wrong, to the extent that he’s claiming or implying that the additive is bad because it originally came from coal tar. (And if he doesn’t want to imply the connection, why mention coal tar at all?)

If he can show it’s actually bad from you, it doesn’t matter where it came from (coal tar, bald eagle droppings, bearded dragon poop, unicorn farts, whatever), and talking about coal tar is simply a scare tactic that should be unnecessary.

Let’s say someone breaks down a batch of coal tar to get amorphous carbon, then does whatever it is they do to make diamonds. Is that better or worse than a diamond that was made the same way, but from “star tar”? Or flowers? Or mined? Or pulled out of Neptune?

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Another period of hubris…for a while there, about a century or so ago, many people believed that strong radioactivity had health benefits. Radium water was a thing.

Many died.

michaelh

There’s a lot more I can say about this but let’s start with the framing.

We need to be suspicious of concentrated power: GOV _and_ CORP

Freedom belongs to the citizens, We the people. Not we the oligarchs.

It’s not about GOV protection -VERSUS- CORP freedom. It’s Both/And. We have to shift our perspective from all or nothing zero sum mindset.

FDA has no business going around banning everything chemophobia style, full stop. Bex powder should be on market.

CORP doesn’t get free reign to decieve lie to and gaslight the public either. No immunity from prosecution or class action lawsuits.

I would prefer to have an industry standard for safety like Underwriter’s Laboratories for medical products and food additives. We already have Orthodox Union for kosher as an example.

I could write a book but for now let’s get out of the old left/right framing of regulation versus freedom. Stop thinking oppositionally.

We can err towards freedom but we have to protect minors who cannot give informed consent on yellow dyes or gender mutilation. We have to protect minors. The gov cannot protect minors. Corp cannot protect minors. We the parents have a responsibility and duty to protect minors. If they harm our kids they need to be much very bad unspeakable. No ifs ands or buts.