“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Colonel Towner has mentioned on more than one occasion that God is guiding her. If she’s speaking and she comes to a dead end, someone in her audience pipes up with “Have you read…” and she is off and running again. The same has happened to me. I was wondering how I was going to move forward on the Mercantilismtheme and pull a lot of threads together.
I have only listened to half a dozen or so of the 40-plus Gladio videos by Colonel Towner and Alpha Warrior. It is a daunting task to catch up, especially if I am going to transcribe at least a few parts of them. Yesterday my curiosity bone got the better of me, and I skipped ahead and listened to the first USAID video. Towards the end Colonel Towner said she would be covering Benghazi, and I thought she meant USAID Part II. So I skipped around listening to parts of the video looking for the Benghazi section, and landed in a spot where she mentioned she would be interviewing a survivor of the USS Liberty. I already knew something about the USS Liberty. With curiosity driving me and a bit more hunting I found The Colonel’s Corner Rumble Channel. I was so angry after listening to the first minutes, I posted a few bits to Sunday’s Dear MAGA: 20250302 Open Topic
I still don’t buy that [prisoner murders] as being the reason for the attack on the Liberty. It’s too small-potatoes. IMO that rationale is post-failure disinformation from both Mossad and the USG, meant to muddy the waters. One of many bogus reasons that were floated.
IMO there was a concocted plot by Johnson (who was truly evil) and elements in Israel who wanted America to enter the war [THAT is the kind of reason they needed – like 9/11] and thought that an attack on am American ship would be just the thing he needed to get us in. The attack failed to take out the radio, and the betrayal of our own troops by Johnson failed.
IMO Johnson and his bad actors and allies were behind all the assassinations and false flags like Gulf of Tonkin.
Thus, I simply can’t blame the Israeli government, when our own was involved, too – and was arguably WORSE. AND – at the same time – none of this justifies the Palestinians, the Arab attackers, the terrorists, or the attack on Israel.
Johnson was an evil POS, who would gladly sacrifice a boat of innocent men for politics. FUCK HIM and everybody who plotted with him – American and Israeli.
These people have not quit, and they will not quit. I lay both 9/11 and Ukraine (WWIII, if they can get it) at their feet.
Wolfie was correct I got taken-in by the Prisoner massacre Limited Hang-out although Colonel Towner does mention it towards the end as one of the reasons. I had heard about the massacre several weeks prior to listening to the video. After reflecting on the entire video, and hearing Phil Tourney’s plea that the TRUE story be told, I decided to write this article.
If you want the short and sweet version of WHY the attack on the USS Liberty:
Israel is considered one of the most important countries that import rough diamonds, and the most prominent countries that export polished diamonds. Most of these diamonds come from African countries such as South Africa, Liberia, Congo, Ivory Coast amongst others. These countries are directly linked to groups committing massacres against civilians in order to obtain diamonds, and trade with these diamonds leads to the death of tens of thousands of people annually in the countries of origin. The sale and export of these diamonds are linked to major arms deals, the creation of civil wars and financing the fighting groups. This has caused the diamond trade in Africa to be called the dirty trade, the jewels are called “blood diamonds” because the blood of thousands of Africans is shed in order to extract and market them…
This is from a UK publication with a decidedly Muslim slant. Therefore we have to see if there is supporting evidence.
The diamond industry of Israel is an important world player in producing cut diamonds for wholesale. In 2010, Israel became the chair of the Kimberley Process Certification Scheme.[1] As of 2016, cut diamonds constituted 23.2% of Israel’s total exports and they were the country’s biggest export product, amounting to 12% of the world’s production.
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First, I urge everyone to actually listen to what this man has to say. (1hr 11 minutes)
I do not have the time to write a full transcript so a few key points… DARN IT! Oh well I got sucked in and did more of a transcript than I planned. So, as usual, I am going to split the material into two articles.
Very Rough Transcript. I am not going to put it in quotes.
3 minutes to 12 minutes: Colonel Towner mentions Lyman Lemnitzer, commander of the United Nations forces in the Korean War (1955–57.) He was Kennedy’s Joint Chief of Staff from 1960 to 1962. Kennedy wanted to get rid of him, but instead of firing the SOB, Kennedy, not knowing what NATO was up to, sent him to serve as the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe of NATO from 1963 to 1969. THIS IS WHILE NATO assassins were deployed to Texas. [He was one NASTY piece of work! GC]
Towner explains that de Gaulle and Kennedy were trying to oust the UK from Africa where the UK and Israel were stealing all the diamonds. Egypt and the Suez Canal were the buffer protecting Israel from retaliation by Africa. Egypt was under British control from 1882 to 1922. When Egypt gained independence, Nasser took control of the Suez Canal FROM the UK. So the UK moved to the Port of Aden in Yemen. Yemen is STILL fighting a two-front war today. Towner then goes into how the CIA was spying on the communication of most countries including Egypt. Therefore they KNEW Egypt was sending troops to help Yemen just prior to this travesty.
15 mins – Phil Tourney said Israel got antsy and started the war early, that is why we took off as quick as we did. The rest of the crew and I figured this was planned out probably a year in advance. We were set-up by our own government. We were going into a war zone and asked for destroyer escort twice and were denied by NoName’s Father, Admiral John Sidney McCain Jr.
16 mins – Col Towner interrupts and say this is typical of the CIA & US Navy. They did the same thing to the USS Indianapolis in the pacific during WW II when they took the warheads over there. They left them without an escort KNOWING the subs were going to get them and then court-martialed the surviving Captain. The Navy is one of the most cruel ass… that has ever existed! … Phil’s story is NOT an isolated incident. This is why history is so important.
17 mins – Phil: We were 12.5 miles off the coast of the Sinai. (June 6th) We were ALWAYS in international waters. June 7th we see Israeli DC3s. We saw & waved at the pilots & they waved at us. Saw them on the 8th They were taking pictures of us. We only had four 50 caliber machine guns. We picked up messages that Israel KNEW we were an American Ship. We had a brand new flag and the ship had just been refurbished so it had a newly painted name.
21 mins – Phil Tourney starts describing the attack… You cannot imagine what they did to us. Rockets, cannons, napalm, machine guns… every [operational] antenna they hit on the first pass. Within 3 seconds every antenna and every water tight door above the water line was destroyed. One antenna that was out of commission was not destroyed. The air attack lasted for 25 minutes. They used unmarked black planes. [French made.] At least 12 planes and 30 sorties. On the first pass they shot down the US flag. Sailors put up another brand new one. Shot that down. Put up HUGE holiday flag that stayed up. During those 25 minutes the ship got a message out by repairing the last antenna.
25 mins — Col Towner points out that those sailors went out while those planes were raining fire to put up a flag so it was a KNOWN attack on an American ship in international waters. THIS IS CRITICAL TO THE STORY. [She explains the Flag is very important because it means you cannot call it a mistaken ID -GC]
26 min Phil: Our radio message was picked up as far away as Vietnam. The 6th Fleet picked it up. Captain Tully of the USS Saratoga immediately launched aircraft to come to our aid. They were called back by [US Secretary of Defense] Robert McNamara. A few minutes later Captain Tully & Captain Ingen of the USS America went to launched planes again. Before they could get underway, President Johnson got on the air and said RECALL THOSE GOD DAMN PLANES, I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT A FEW DEAD SAILORS, I WILL NOT EMBARRASS MY ALLY!
Phil:So how did he know who was attacking us if WE DID NOT KNOW?
So that right there tells you we were set up to be sunk by the Zionist State in order to bring us into WW III.
29 mins — Colonel Towner points out that the USS Liberty’s actual mission was to spy on the African countries trying to free themselves from the US and European piranhas. The sacrifice of the USS Liberty was about setting up a regime change in Egypt and destroying the evidence of the spying.
30 mins – Phil: The Aircraft attack was followed by an attack by 3 torpedo boats with the Star of David. The boats fired five torpedoes from 1000, 800 yards away. Two went aft, one hit the communication spaces, don’t know where the others went. Colonel Towner suggests it was to get rid of evidence. The attack went on for another hour and a half. The total attack lasted 2 hours. Help was only 40 minutes away but the US government would not allow help. They left us for 17 hours. The USS America and the destroyer USS David finally showed up…. We had 34 dead and 174 wounded….
34 min — Phil: The Israeli torpedo boats continuously circled the ship, firing 50-caliber machine guns and armor-piercing rounds into us. We thought we were going to sink. We put the most seriously wounded into the three life rafts we had left. The Israelis shot two of them out of the water and took the last on board their boat as a trophy of their kill. [REMEMBER THOSE BOATS WOULD HAVE THE NAME AND USA DESIGNATION PRINTED ON IT!!! SEE: 46 CFR § 199.176 – Markings on lifesaving appliances.current — GC]
Also lifeboats are protected and the Israelis DAMN WELL KNEW IT!
2149 The protection of ‘small craft employed … for coastal rescue operations’ is not surprising, because they have long rendered assistance to those in distress at sea, whether civilians or wounded, sick or shipwrecked persons protected under the applicable provisions of international humanitarian law. In numerous States, rescue craft were, and continue to be, operated by coastal municipalities, private associations, individual volunteers or State organs, whether the armed forces or other governmental institutions. The vessels employed for life-saving purposes range from rowing and rubber boats to technologically sophisticated craft that can operate far off the coast and in difficult sea conditions…..
a. Additional Protocol I
2168 While Article 22(3) of Additional Protocol I does not modify the substantive protection afforded to coastal rescue craft, it removes an important procedural requirement of the Second Convention, by providing that:
Small craft described in Article 27 of the Second Convention shall be protected even if the notification envisaged by that Article 27 has not been made.The Parties to the conflict are, nevertheless, invited to inform each other of any details of such craft which will facilitate their identification and recognition….
They wanted NO SURVIVORS. It was the grace of God, the Hand of God that kept that ship up. We were just his servants that day. He deserves all the credit. Jesus Christ does. He kept us alive for moments like this. To tell the truth. — Phil Tourney
36 min — Colonel Towner makes clear that command knew that the USS Liberty was under attack. She says that within 5 minutes of the attack, via relays, London, Spain (where the ship was launched from), the Secretary of Defense’s office, the White House, CIA, NSA… would ALL KNOW that the USS Liberty was under attack, AND FOR SEVENTEEN HOURS THE US GOVERNMENT DID NOT DO A FUCKING THING TO HELP THEM!
37:30 Phil: Two days after the attack we were headed to Malta which is 1,000 miles away. We have a 40X40 torpedo hole in our side. The closest port was Crete [~400 miles or less – GC]. We never could figure that one out.
Flag admiral Isaac Kidd & his Jag officer came on board and interrogated what crew was left aboard the ship….
We are in sick bay, he takes off his stars and tosses them on the table. He says I know you guys have been thru hell but I have got to get this while it is fresh in your mind. Tell me everything that happened…. Then he said, I am putting my stars back on. I had asked him, “Admiral how come you did not send help?”…
He puts his stars back on and said:
I am going to tell every one of you Sons of Bitches. And he got right in my face. If you ever breath a word about what you just told me, any of you, I will make sure you end up in prison or worse!! Do you know what WORSE MEANS? [Phil explains it means DEAD. -GC]
Yes sir I do…. I didn’t talk of it for 18 years.
I had to sign an agreement I would never sue Israel or the USA and they gave me $200 bucks for my signature and said SIGN IT!
42 Min — Colonel Towner tells why they were sent to Malta instead of Crete. Crete is part of Greece. Greece is part of NATO and NATO is who attacked you guys. You would have talked to Greek citizens and all of this would have been exposed. Malta has always been used since WWII to hide their criminally. Because it is isolated everything around you was controlled. No one was allowed access that was not a part of the scheme. That could not have happened in Crete. Phil agrees.
We were there for 33 days. Lists damage. There was NO [REAL] investigation. By orders of John McCain & LBJ it was called mistaken identity…. Every one from LBJ to Trump has bought that crap….
We were sent there to be sunk by Israel so they could blame it on Nasser and Egypt. And Israel would have taken over the entire Middle East. The land grab they are doing now would have happened then.
46 min — Col Towner Holds up book Operation Cyanide[2003 by British journalist Peter Hounam] He documents the B-52s sitting on the tarmac being given the ready mission to start their engines to fly. This was BEFORE the first bombing [of the USS Liberty] ….
Phil: If you write congress be ready to be lied to… they never investigated…
As Thomas Massie said Everybody’s got an AIPAC handler and I guess they had them back then too….
Phil is correct. American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs was founded in 1951 It later changed it’s name to American Israel Public Affairs Committee [AIPAC]Source Watch:
49 min — Col Towner. So that brings us to the last point. During the last five years there have been three instances revealed. The Ross Setter massacre that happened on June 8th of 1967. The Mass grave on the West Bank, which Israel turned into a national park. Another mass grave was discover on 5 June, which would have been part of the 6 day war. And the E-L-E-L-A-R-I-S-H massacre. That one happened… where the USS Liberty was. They were sailing in Egyptian international water right north of this town El Arish. This is where the Israelis murdered prisoners of war and buried them…. So during the course of their surveillance of this war zone Mass Murder by the IDF was happening along the coast.
This is not isolated. It was just like we did in Vietnam, in Nicaragua, in Guatemala. The USA has done this as well. We have buried people in mass graves. It happened in Cambodia. The CIA unleashed terrorists that resulted in casualties that resulted in mass graves. This is what Israel was participating in and it is my summation that because of the SIGINET, the advanced capability, all that information would have been picked up by the linguist and transmitted.
THIS IS CRITICAL. There would be no denying that the USA and all of NATO knew the atrocities that Israel was committing and the USS Translators, not the crew were instantly murdered when that torpedo hit that boat. They would be the sole surviving people who could attest to those atrocities….
Who benefited from it?
Israel ended up with All of Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and the Sinai Peninsula. They go to war again in 73 and then they have a peace settlement in 1979. The massacre in the Golan Heights happened right after the USS Liberty was taken out. That is not unlike what just happened with the Hamas Attack on Israel on October 7. It was not an immediate response to Gaza, just like for Israel, it was not an immediate attack in response. Well they did the initial attack in Egypt, but they did it at the same time all over. They’re conquering all of the surrounding area.
That is what it is ALWAYS ABOUT. It is a DIVERSION OVER HERE to go over here.
[What Col Towner is talking about is an incident in one middle east country is then used to attack several others. We just saw this with Gaza, the attacks spread to Iran, Jordan, Syria and Yemen. When everything is over, Israel will end up expanding into more areas. LINK– GC]
You have to understand they have an ultimate goal. Any one who is in the way of that ultimate goal is fair game for being killed.
54 min — Phil: We were sacrificial lambs, the soldiers were sacrificial lambs and the goal was a land grab…. Our goal is to tell the truth…. They got paid MORE MONEY BY THE UNITED STATES then they ever did in their existence FOR MURDERING AMERICAN SERVICEMEN on the high seas doing what their government had ordered them to do.
Talk about this is the first time they are able to get the word out and this is not the first betrayal. The press never helped us, the government never helped us, Congress never helped us. No one came to help us.
IN FACT THE AMERICAN LEGION? We had 2 men there… 5 or 6 years ago. [to set-up] a booth handing out our stuff about the USS Liberty. They would not let us have a booth. We sent a $1,000 for the booth. They said they never got the check. So we said OK we will pay cash or credit card… Then they said NO!! YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE!
56:30 Col Towner: The American Legion is notorious for being part of the collusion of the CIA to STIFLE VETERANS ISSUES.
Phil : Absolutely. Glenn… tore his American Legion Card up and sprinkled it on a woman’s chest, her boobs. He did not throw it at her. So they arrested him for assault and put him in jail. He still has it on his record. The USS Liberty is BANNED from ever attending any of their meetings….
Col Towner: Let me ask you something that was in Peter’s [Hounam] book. He documents the fact that a USS submarine was basically shadowing you guys and that there was also a Russian submarine that watched the torpedo portion of this. And I have read other accounts of this that they gave up the final attack on sinking the USS Liberty because now there were other witnesses.
58:20 Phil: that could very well be so. The USS Amberjack, [Gato-class submarine – GC] we heard filmed it. And the USS Andrew Jackson [Lafayette-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine – GC] was there also. And as you mentioned a Russian submarine that was ready to hit Israel, only minutes away if everything went as planned. They were going to Nuke Israel for what they were doing to Egypt. Us not sinking put a wrench in their plans. I bet they are still scratching their heads…
59 min — Col Towner: I have done a lot of research into Gladio and Gladio being basically regime change overthrow with over 90 of them successful since WWII. Over 400 of them attempted.
What you always find looming in the background, like when we were trying to do it in Algeria and several Eastern European countries immediately after WWII. The Soviet Union had spies everywhere and they were able to thwart most of it… The story of the Russian sub, after knowing what I know about the Soviet Union always seeming to be one step ahead in protection … When I read about the Russian sub, I thought “Well that is interesting,” because I wonder if they were actually there because they knew what NATO was going to do to the USS Liberty and if they would have used it for blackmail. If the Liberty had sunk, they would forever have had the ability to control a whole bunch of different things, They would have had blackmail material. And maybe they used it anyway because they KNEW WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM.
1hr 1 min — Phil: Absolutely. They knew exactly what was going on. Russia is not stupid….
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Commenter BridgetGrayposted photos of the USS Liberty.
…Jets armed with nuclear bombs were actually scrambled from the carrier USS America with orders to nuke Cairo. Once Defense Secretary McNamara and Lying Bastard Johnson realized that the Liberty had not sunk, and that U.S. eyewitnesses were not only alive, but were actually communicating with other American ships, the U.S. jets carrying the nukes were recalled to their carrier by direct orders from McNamara and Johnson….
After reading this I now understand why Dr Roberts has no love of Israel.
This article is based entirely on documented sources and on interviews with six USS Liberty survivors, as well as Captain Ward Boston and Bill Knutson, the executive officer of the USS America fighter squadron dispatched on the first aborted rescue mission.
For a number of years Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was my colleague at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Tom… expressed to me his concern that US politics and foreign policy was in the clutches of Israel and that America was being led into war with the Arab Middle East. Admiral Moorer and the State Department and Pentagon at that time did not think that war with the Arab countries served the interests of the United States. However, Admiral Moorer thought that the war could not be avoided because of the hold Israel has over the US government.
What convinced him of this was Washington’s cover-up of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty which resulted in 208 killed and wounded Americans. Tom was disheartened that Admiral John S. McCain Jr…. for career reasons had cooperated with the cover-up. Tom worried that careerism had destroyed the integrity of the US military…
I had already seen that Admiral Moorer’s prediction that Israel would have us in war against the Arabs had come true. I still hear his bitter statement that “no American president can stand up to Israel.” Tom was deeply wounded by the betrayal of the US Navy by the Commander-in-Chief. The Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff was powerless before the Israel Lobby.…
The US government’s official position on the USS Liberty corresponds with Israel’s: The attack was unintentional and a result of Israeli blunders. This is the official position despite the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Assistant Secretary of State Lucius Battle, and a long list of US Navy officers, government officials and Liberty survivors are on record saying the Israeli attack was intentional…
Survivors with whom I spoke said the attack was the easy part of the experience. The hard part has been living with 40 years of official cover-up and betrayal by the US government. One survivor said that he was asked to leave his Baptist church when he spoke about the Liberty, because the minister and fellow church-goers felt more loyalty to Israel than to a member of the congregation who had served his country. His church’s position was that if our government believed Israel, the survivors should also….
…on June 8, 1967 two A-4 bomber aircraft loaded with nuclear bombs were dispatched from the aircraft carrier USS America, bound for Cairo with orders to drop those bombs on that city.[1]…
…According to Mike Ratigan, who served on board that carrier as a center-deck catapult operator responsible for maintaining the catapult in working order. He remembered the call to general quarters (battle stations) in the early afternoon of June 8, 1967, later learning that this was due to the attack on the Liberty. The A-4 bombers were each fitted with two bombs having a gold-colored tip, a type that he had never seen before: “I’d never seen that particular type of ordnance, and as we had gone into Condition November (notice of imminent nuclear war) subsequent to being in general quarters, it was definitely not a drill. Marine guards were escorting the A-4, and that was a very unusual experience. I’d never seen anything like that in the four years that I was in the Navy as a Cat operator.”….
We continue to mourn the untimely passing of our beloved compatriot DePat, known in real life as Susie Sampson, and also as author Patricia Holden.
Until we have a dedicated author for the Tuesday daily open thread, I will be posting “placeholders” like this one, which may or may not be spiced up with additional content.
Gudthots will take DePat’s old Thursday daily open thread.
Please notify me in advance if you would like to post anything in lieu of the Tuesday placeholder. We welcome all content – the topic doesn’t matter.
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Get Smart – Buy a Globe!
When I was trying to get somebody to take DePat’s Tuesday open thread – meaning THIS thread – and there were no takers, I toyed with the idea of turning this open into a kind of comedy hour. The satire would be brutal – brutal enough that somebody would quickly decide to shut me up by volunteering to take the open. OR SO I HOPED!
I was going to call myself Flat Earth Wolf, and I planned to ferociously but facetiously advocate everything that most people here disagreed with, if not depise. Flat earth, no virus, deep state Trump, woke right – the worse, the better!
Yeah, at first it sounded kinda fun, but then I realized that it would just drive people away. And even I wouldn’t enjoy it.
SIGH.
Eventually, I just decided to use this open to post my own honest opinions about things. The beauty of that is, if somebody disagrees with me, they only have to volunteer to take the open to shut me up – but I don’t have to be funny or interesting, which is work.
I can just spout off and state my piece – and that is exactly what I’m going to do!
Now, as you have seen, I’ve spent a lot of time being “fair” to flat earth, by making sure people who want to post any side of any debate can do so here – and that is still happening. Most of the time, I’m encouraging people to post views that may oppose not only my own views, but everybody else’s, too.
But it’s time to be more….. how shall I say….. “complete” about things.
I try to be “nice” about a lot of “science” that “has issues”. I just try to smile and not pull out any deadly weapons of argumentation.
No serrated blades. No 100-round clips. No razor-studded baseball bats. Maybe a hanky. Yes. A perfumed hanky. Cough. Cough. Pardon me!
WELL – NOT TODAY, AND NOT RIGHT HERE, AND NOT RIGHT NOW.
¿Comprende?
Pardon me for just one moment. I’m gonna be tougher about science. Because we have to be tough. We are up against a very organized force.
The Yellow Berets, also known as Public Health Service trainees, were a group of physicians who participated in the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Associate Training Program during the Vietnam War era. They were often derogatorily referred to as “Yellow Berets” by supporters of the war who viewed them as avoiding military service.
We are up against some really bad people, who are fully prepared to tell any lie for their purposes. So this opposing army – OUR army – can’t tolerate weak, wrong, and misled science in the forward combat positions. SURE – if you want to work on the base back in safe territory, you can believe all the bad and broken science you want. But if you want to get out in front, you have to subject your own biases to the relentless sharpening forces of TRUTH – and in particular EVIDENCE.
Some things are very certain out in the front lines. One of them is that this planet is a sphere, roughly.
NOW – like most other professional scientists, I haz science skilz in a lot of different areas, because most true scientists are like that. We don’t turn off the science when we walk out of school or job – and our opinions can be particularly relevant in looking at other people’s “expert” stuff, and asking terrible, sharp, venomous questions that the “experts” in those areas are hiding from, or pretending don’t exist.
Much “organization” in current, problematic, sick, “mainstream” science is done to insulate compromised insiders from pesky intelligent outsiders.
Decorum, you know. That’s it. Decorum.
Well, too bad.
BUT we have to hold ourselves to the same revolutionary standards.
Yadig? Of course! What’s good for vaccines, is good for “no virus”, “flat earth”, and many other things.
Globe Earth Wolf has a recommendation that will ultimately test your faith in God, by beating on it. He’s gonna BEAT your armor until it is HARDER, and the first beat-down is that you need to buy an actual globe and STUDY IT.
They’re CHEAP AS DIRT. Most are made in CHYYYNA. But you still have to buy one. I don’t care where it’s made. BUY A GLOBE. And if you already have one, pull it out of the closet, attic or basement.
Buy one at a garage sale, if you have to.
I recommend buying a globe that is at least 12 inches in diameter, and is mounted so that the tilt of Earth’s axis relative to the sun is clearly demonstrable.
Blue oceans which are highly differentiated in color from the land masses are very helpful. Political boundaries are somewhat immaterial, although they do help you LOCATE things more quickly and precisely, and if they are current, the globe can be used to increase your current geopolitical understanding. On the other hand, a vintage globe can be useful for more historical understanding. In either case, I recommend blue oceans, because some vintage globes hide this physically useful truth, by making everything somewhat off-white, sepia and tan, simply to look good on furniture, as opposed to BEATING ON YOUR BRAIN, which is my purpose.
What I am doing is actually a stupid trick from science – a silly secret among the “top men”. And top women, but let’s not get TOO bogged down in DEI.
You see, MODELS – simple physical models – are behind so much of the best science and so many of the best scientists. I have watched this throughout my entire life, and it’s hilarious. Good models are what won Watson and Crick the Nobel Dynamite & Bankster Prize for DNA, and Doudna and Charpentier the same for CRISPR-Cas9. Good models are how all the best work on C60/Buckyballs/Fullerenes was done.
Good models are how stereochemistry was explained in the late 19th century. Good models are – over and over – how organic chemistry and then biochemistry were worked out in the 19th and 20th centuries.
When I went to school with a bunch of scary smart people, I quickly realized that I could use my cheap plastic molecular model set, which I was ironically forced to buy, but wisely chose to actually use, to find all sorts of science which had apparently evaded older students and even our professors for years. Simple, stupid, cheap, plastic and aluminum, “straws and jacks” (not even balls and sticks) was all it took to figure out realities that would ALWAYS show up in chemical behavior, spectroscopy, and quantum mechanical calculations.
I would SHOW PEOPLE this stuff with models – and you could always tell the winners from the losers by how fast they would start using their own “required but never used” model set to figure things out – by how carefully (or stupidly and carelessly) they would cut their little bonds – by how carefully or carelessly they would grab the right “jack” to get the right angles at the atoms – by how strongly they would reason past the limitations of the cheap models – and by how quickly they would spend some of their hard-earned but very limited cash to buy a SECOND or THIRD model set, to make even bigger and better models possible.
I am doing the exact same thing here, to make you smarter – to make YOU a winner.
Because we can’t have too much winning if you aren’t on the same page as Trump, as well as the historical patriots who really did walk this SPHERICAL planet and built this great civilization – and GOD – who made this WORKING BALL on which WORKING LIFE not only EXISTS but THRIVES and then hopefully carries on His PRO-LIFE MISSION of creating and persisting a life-filled and God-loving universe, which is something GOD WANTS BECAUSE IT’S GOOD.
Just my opinion?
Yeah. But still – buy a globe. You will learn so much from it.
I recommend keeping your globe in some place you visit regularly. I stand in front of my globe generally 2-4 times a day, and I probably toy with it at least daily. When we’re having science discussions here, especially after one of Steve’s science posts, I may spend a half hour with that globe.
What am I looking at?
I am looking at seasons. I’m looking at angles of the sun. I’m looking at hours of daylight, twilight, and darkness. But that’s just the beginning.
Most importantly, I’m looking at thousands of tiny details and saying “OH, THAT MAKES SENSE”. Airplane flights. Jet lag. Shipping routes. Planetary distances. Phone conversations. Satellites. “4 AM”. Russia, CHYYYNA, Japan. Burma Shave. TAIWAN. Why Hawaii has always been filled with trouble and bullshit. Look at your globe and every little thing starts to make sense.
This is very critical. When you have a real, true, winning solution in science, like a spherical planet, it just makes all the little stuff WORK. All the thousands of minor details WORK for any scientist who looks at the model, and kicks the tires. This is why Newton is not “replaced” by Einstein – he’s just being helped out around the edges where things get weird.
The problem with “Flat Earth” (and other things I’ll talk about later) is that one big mistake made from an emotionally attractive bias to the past tries (and fails) to upset all the little yet critical stuff other people are doing or have done – meaning millions of honest, good-faith observations. THEN, the same people who break all the little yet critical stuff for everybody else, when confronted, just throw back some non-working, “causes even more trouble”, evasion of an answer, and pretend that they answered the problem, when they didn’t. And that is exactly why nobody takes them seriously, and most people ignore them.
In science, you have to make something that lets OTHER PEOPLE explain or predict stuff on their own, successfully, nearly every time, to actually have a product that sells AND GETS RE-SOLD. Newton did that. Chemistry did that. Electromagnetism did that. Relativity did that. Quantum mechanics did that. Particle physics did that.
When you look at the globe, try to predict how long automobile trips and plane flights take. Look at where islands are. Look at where history happened. Look at where mankind started, wandered, and settled. Look at climate. Look at weather. Look at temperatures. Look at where those temperatures are on the globe.
Right there, the semi-frozen pizza stumbles hard, but the globe, with two poles on one axis, just works like crazy. Everything is nicely – no – perfectly explained – and it’s explained all together at the same time, by a very simple model.
Your actual globe will make you a solid and strong glober. And scientist. And lover of truth.
And then you will become even stronger, because – believe it or not – you will become stronger in FAITH. You will start to see how God makes stuff WORK – and I mean REALLY WORK – simply, powerfully, independently – and that pattern is something you can predict will show up again, and again, and again.
God makes stuff that WORKS. And KEEPS WORKING.
But I’m getting ahead of things.
So buy that globe, or get the old one out, and let’s talk about it. Make that globe WORK for you. Let it help you see the TRUTH.
And as it brings you closer to TRUTH, it will bring you closer to GOD.
W
“Is there anything as great as a Trump rally?”
TOPSHOT – US President Donald Trump holds a Make America Great Again rally as he campaigns at Orlando Sanford International Airport in Sanford, Florida, October 12, 2020. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
I first want to say, PLEASE at least skim this article. Gunderson documents the false flags the US government has used to control us for decades. I have run out of time, so please excuse my mistakes.
Continuing from last week, now on to the meaty subject of Ted L. Gunderson. He is a whistle-blower & was Agent in Charge of FBI field offices in Los Angeles, Memphis, and Dallas. He is quite interesting, especially given he was poisoned with arsenic powder sprinkled in his home and car after he retired. (1 hour)
I was going to include Colonel Tower’s videos about Operation Gladio since it gives you the WHY but I will do that next week. In a nutshell, to fund Operation Gladio (Color Revolutions and such) the CIA uses ‘off the books’ money from drug running, arms trafficking, — from guns and ammo to fighter jets and helicopters — and human trafficking — from slaves to child sex workers. Drugs and sex are also used to control politicians, the media, judges and such. If that doesn’t work??? Well there is always threats, entrapment, imprisonment and assassination.
And speaking of assassinations, that was Ted Gunderson’s fate.
[Left click on page and open image in new tab. You can then enlarge the print using [Ctrl] [+] — GC]
Theodore L. Gunderson was poisoned with Arsenic to death a few months after writing this affidavit…
Ted L Gunderson, former head of FBI in Los Angeles, Memphis, and Dallas, was poisoned with arsenic says Dr Ed Lucidi who saw Ted’s body before and after he passed away. Dr. Ed treated Mr Gunderson, who suffered bladder cancer and died as a result of its spread at age 82. LINK
At 9 minutes in that video, Dr Lucidi talks of Gunderson’s arsenic poisoning and the signs [Black nails and body turning black after death.] Also that Ted found arsenic dust in his apartment & locked car.(18 min)
Dr Lucidi then goes into WHY Doctor MacDonald was targeted.The CIA was shipping cocaine back to the States via the body cavities of the Dead soldiers.
Dr MacDonald, as an army doctor became aware of this drug pipeline and thus was framed for the murder of his family. This ties directly into the CIA and their method of funding Operation Gladio coups. So we now, with the recent New Years False Flags, have several interesting links to Fort Bragg, including the 4th Psy Op group that Badlands Media loves. And speaking of Psy-ops, at around 29 minutes in the video, Ted says, “…the MK Ultra program has been very actively administered not only at Offutt Air Force Base [but] at Fort Brag North Carolina, the place where Dr MacDonald’s family was slaughtered in 1970…”— GC
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ADDENDUM: I just found this clean transcript of the GUNDERSON PRESENTATION, MAY 12, 2005, LINK
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Another, transcript of one of Ted’s one hour videos with added information can be found at:
It is a similar video but goes more in depth into the child trafficking. It is not surprising to see, that since I started work on this article, this video, posted by Truth Mafia, has been taken down.
I am going to take their summary and add my own bits and pieces from the video I have link above, that is still up. I am using most of the transcript from You-tube with a bit of clean up and editing by me. Since this summary does not cover all the cases I am going to insert missing information in the same order as Ted presented it. I am also going to include links and other information that cover the cases Ted Gunderson talks about. I will use the labels “Summary” and “Video” to differentiate between the two sources.
Summary
➡ This text tells the story of Ted Gunderson, a former FBI official who exposed a child abuse ring involving powerful figures in America. Despite facing threats and obstacles, Gunderson revealed a network of child trafficking that extended beyond Nebraska and involved high-ranking officials. His investigations echo in recent scandals involving Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy, showing a pattern of powerful elites exploiting their influence to commit heinous acts and avoid accountability. Gunderson’s courage reminds us that truth, no matter how deeply buried, will always surface.
FBI & CIA
As part of the video intro, ted says:
…. I do have credentials…. Believe me if you read the Internet you may not think so because there are some heavy duty FBI informants out there like Stu, Webb, and Barbara Hartwell, who are MK Ultra mind control victims. CIA mind control victims who are making all kinds of disparaging remarks about me.
So right off the bat, he connects the CIA to the FBI and both to the control of information. Because without that control of information the Cabal’s grip on the world slips.
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Rothschilds & Adam Weishaupt.
If you use Yandex.com to search those 2 names together it gets into some really bizarre areas. Expose News and Order of the Illuminati are just two examples Yandex brings up. Ted source of information is Commander Carr’s Pawns in the Game (Link to the actual book)
This book was written by a high ranking Canadian naval officer with connections in both military and intelligence agencies. He identifies a group of ‘International Bankers’ as the “secret power” behind world revolutions, and documents the history of their activities as they fund wars and upheavals from Cromwell to WWII. He covers wars and revolutions throughout Europe from 1640 to 1940, but of special interest are his insights into the Spanish Civil War (1936) and events leading to WWII, since these are not well covered in most other accounts…
William Guy Carr died in 1959 of unexplained causes four years after publishing “Pawns in the Game”. He was 64. His son published one of his other important books “Satan, Prince of this World”, after his death.
When the author of this book, Commander W.J.G. Carr died on October 2, 1959, he left this book in manuscript form along with many scribbled notes, reference books, half formulated thoughts, etc. His last wish was that the book be finished and published in order that all men might know of the plot which exists to wipe out every trace of decency in the world and all civilizations as we know them now. Such a task is manifestly beyond ordinary means. I, his oldest son, have been asked to try and edit, revise and correct the manuscript as best possible before publication. This I have done to the best of my limited ability.
I have not added anything to the original draft or changed anything except where requested to do so in marginal notes in my father’s own handwriting. I found the work frustrating because it was far beyond the scope of my ability. At the same time, I found it extremely interesting and rewarding as I tried to sort out the thoughts and ideas of a man who died almost seven years ago.
At some points in the manuscript I found notes such as: “Check the accuracy of such and such a point” or “dig out more information on such and such a person”. On each occasion, I deleted the point queried completely, for it was always my father’s strong belief that nothing should ever be written until completely proved out in the light of existing knowledge. Since I do not have the necessary sense of values to decide what information should or should not be used in such cases, I felt safest by leaving the information out completely.
The fact that there are only thirteen chapters in this book will annoy some people and frustrate others: I think all who read it will be left in a state of restlessness. “The Unfinished Symphony” has never been completed and this book will not be completed either, except as each reader finishes it for himself in the future by personal experience as the story unfolds. Many of you will scoff at the statements made in this book; many will toss it aside as the ravings of a madman; some will be unable to finish the book because it will arouse anxieties and fears that cannot be faced. But many others, and I hope that they will be in the majority, will find in this work the answers to some of the most perplexing of the problems that have faced men since the beginning of time and provide material for pondering possible solutions to the future….
Please also read the forward by Commander Carr. (pg 6)
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As I said last week, this is not a rabbit hole it is a a rabbit warren, a network of interconnected burrows. And what a mess it is!
From the video:
Let’s go back to 1776 May the 1st.. Adam Weishaupt was commissioned by the Rothchild family to set up the goals to control and the final goal was the take over of the world with a One World Government.
Adam Weishaupt came up with 25 goals. Among these goals were control the Press, corrupt the youth through sex and drugs, elect our own people, our own people meaning the Illuminati, to key positions in all levels of the government. City, County, State and Federal and it goes on. The final goal was to take over the world with a One World Government.
[The] information is very well documented by William Guy Carr in his magazine excuse me, in his book Pawns in the Game.
To me this is a critical point. The ‘Cabal’ goes back CENTURIES, not decades and is deeply entangled in not just the USA but everywhere. At the end of the video Ted also mentions satanism — 4 million practicing in America today… 50,000 to 60,000 human sacrifices a year.
In the video Ted starts off with his first case as a private investigator. It ties drug running from South East Asia (Vietnam) to military bases; a cover-up by military intelligence at Fort Bragg; the involvement of sons and daughters of military personnel in the Satanic Cult who actually committed the murders; all to protect that CIA drug pipeline. Note that these same Cult members were the distributors of the drugs up and down the east coast.
As of 2014, I still do not know if Dr Jeffrey R McDonald has finally been released from prison.
“We discovered how the defense, the jury, and the judge were prevented by prosecutors from seeing the extensive evidence of outside assailants collected at the crime scene as revealed in CID laboratory notes. This critical material – my entire defense, if you will – remained hidden. As later proven in documents acquired through the Freedom of Information Act, the critical CID lab notes had been carefully collected by prosecutor Murtagh, who left the Army to build his career on my case. He had kept the lab notes in his briefcase in the courtroom throughout my seven-week trial.” Dr. MacDonald wrote,
“Murtagh’s fellow prosecutor, James Blackburn, repeatedly told the court, ‘Where is the evidence of outside assailants? Where is the evidence that Helena Stoeckley was ever inside 544 Castle Drive?”
It was in the brief case of his fellow prosecutor as he knew damn well! Reminds me all to well of the Jan 6ers.
McMartin Preschool case
Digging for tunnels on the McMartin Preschool grounds
Summary:
➡ Dr. Gary Stickel, a UCLA archaeologist, discovered tunnels under a school, leading to the uncovering of a covert criminal enterprise involving military intelligence. This enterprise, known as the Franklin cover-up, involved kidnapping children from foster homes and orphanages for sex trafficking. The operation, which is documented in a book, involved flying the children to Washington, D.C. for sex orgies with prominent figures. Despite evidence and demands for investigation, the FBI has refused to look into the matter.
This actually combines one or more cases. From the Video:
The next case I worked of a major consequence was the McMartin preschool case in Manhattan Beach, California. The children there claimed there were tunnels under the school. That they were taken into the tunnels and through the tunnels up into the trap door of a bathroom in a Triplex next door, placed in automobiles and prostituted in the community. These are two, three, and four year-old children before they entered kindergarten. In addition the children claimed that they were flown into the mountains where they were involved with adults in robes. Black robes, Chanting, Candles. They talked about the brown babies who were sacrificed. Who were cut up, actually sacrificed. In checking into this and researching this of course this was obviously a satanic ceremony. The McMartin family who owned the preschool they were tried of Ray Buckey and his grandmother. The grandmother was acquitted. Hung jury on Ray Buckey, the second trial another hunt jury.
I had an opportunity in 1990 to gain control of the school. Now the school had been given to Danny Davis the defense attorney and he had sold it even though he made $15 million on the case by the way. He had sold it to a contractor who was going to take it down. When I learned this, I contacted the contractor. I said I want to be given an opportunity to go on that school and look for the tunnels. The authorities had looked for them in 1987. They said they could find no tunnels. Along with some of the parents ,we hired Dr Gary Stickel, UCLA archaeologist. He hired his crew and brought them in. And in 34 days Dr Stickel said there had been tunnels under that school. They were covered up and they were covered in.
An informant of mine told me that there was an abandoned satanic site in Crestline California up in the mountains I went up into the mountains and obtain copies, photocopies [of] photographs of the site…
Makes you wonder what evidence those California fires are burning… Think the Standard Hotel. Think the 1986 Presidio Child Development Center scandal in San Francisco….
Please at least skim the above article. It is not long. Ted worked a lot with John DeCamp.
From the video:
12:50
From there I became involved in another case. A very frightening case because I established with the help of people like John DeCamp former state senator of Nebraska that we have in this country today, a covert Military Criminal Enterprise Government. An Enterprise primarily by US military intelligence that is operating Full Throttle and everybody refuses to investigate it. In the Nebraska case, it’s called the Franklin Cover-up, this is the book here, that Johnny DeCamp wrote by the way. It’s all documented in there and in that particular instance they were taking children out of foster homes & orphanages [like] Boy’s Town, driving them from Omaha Nebraska to Sioux City Iowa 184 miles away. Placing them in private jets and flying them to Washington DC for sex orgies with prominent people including Congressman, senators and certain people in the White House it’s well documented.
And we wonder why our congress critters vote the way they do?
John DeCamp, CONVENIENTLY died at age 76, July 27,2017, after battling Parkinson’s disease and other illnesses. He spent his final days at the State Veterans Home in Norfolk Nebraska. LINK
When a person is first diagnosed with PD, they are often told “You will die with Parkinson’s disease, not of Parkinson’s disease”. This means that PD is not a fatal disease per se and end of life often occurs at an old age from another medical illness entirely. End-Stage Parkinson’s Disease & Death | APDA
For more information on the Franklin Cover-up there is:
Nick Bryant: “The Franklin scandal” is about an interstate pedophile network that flew kids from coast to coast. What we are seeing with Jeffrey Epstein, we saw in the Franklin scandal, although I think the Franklin pandering network was much, much bigger than Jeffrey Epstein’s network. There were two primary pimps. There was a pimp in Nebraska, Larry King. He was getting children that had fallen through the cracks, from foster-care homes, from Boy’s Town Orphanage and from some other institutions. There was another pimp living in Washington, DC, who was involved in this, Craig Spence, who had his home wired for audio-visual blackmail. Anybody who took part in any of those parties at Craig Spence’s home was definitely blackmailed.…
Before I went on the wild goose chase with Rusty I made a video of myself and disseminated it to some people and I said exactly what I was going to be looking for, and that I was going to be with Rusty Nelson. So, if anything had happened to me, that video would have been indispensable in a court of law. I backed myself up that way. Pictures had gotten Gary Caradori killed, so I knew that going for pictures was very, very dangerous. This was absolutely “smoking gun” material….Well, no one has ever sued me. “The Franklin Scandal” is layered with corroboration and vetted by an attorney. I told Trine Day, my publisher, “You guys have got to really vet this. What we are saying about a lot of people is pretty horrific. I am confident I am telling the truth here, but you’ve got to vet it.” So, it was vetted by an attorney and no one has ever accused me of libel over the years it has been out. No one has ever accused me of fabricating anything. It’s a very solid piece of investigative journalism.
But the Wikipedia page about the Franklin child abuse allegations has some very autocratic operators who will not let any truth about The Franklin Scandal enter that page. I’ve had wars with them and there’s other people who have tried to make changes to that page. So people look at the Wikipedia page and I am summarily dismissed as a lunatic.
For what it is worth, someone at Badlands Media commented that Wiki is run by the CIA.
Back to the video:
I replaced a fellow named Gary Caradori who was the investigator for a Nebraska Senate committee. Gary met the official photographer of the group who had split from the group, defected. [he] agreed to take the pictures that this official photographer gave him. They met in Chicago. And he agreed to take the pictures back to the committee. He flew out of Chicago in his private plane. A short distance out of Chicago the plane exploded midair. His briefcase has never been found. He and his 11-year-old boy died. The rear seat of the airplane has never been found. I had made every attempt possible to obtain possession of or control of that plane because I wanted to examine it for bomb chemicals particularly the back seat. It’s no longer available. Nobody knows what happened to it.
Gary kadori was a civilian yet it [the plane] was taken to a military base for examination. A deputy sheriff was the first one on the scene he saw the pictures. He started picking up the pictures and FBI agent came along took the pictures away from him. Told him to keep his mouth shut. He started talking to a few people. A year later his wife was murdered. He’s no longer talking.
This International child kidnapping ring I later learned was out of Washington D.C. It was very active and the organization is known as the Finders. I have a report on the Finders back there. Everything I’m telling you is documented by the way. The Finders has been established and operating throughout the 1960s up to the present time. It was exposed in 1987, [so] they moved their operation to Wichita Kansas and they’re operating right today in Wichita Kansas.
So Nick Bryant had good reason to be nervous about getting concrete evidence.
I have taken my report to the FBI a half a dozen times demanded an investigation and I have yet to be interviewed. So we have the Finders, we have the Franklin Coverup, which documents what I’m telling you. We have the Game of Pawns. [which] is the Illuminati. This is the Illuminati, the Satanic movement, in this country today and the last thing I’m going to mention in the way of a book is Why Johnny Can’t Come Home.
➡ Johnny, a boy from Iowa, was kidnapped and used as a sex slave in a covert CIA mind control project. He escaped and briefly returned to his mother in 1997 before disappearing again. The case is linked to the Nebraska case and the CIA’s MkUltra mind control program, which was investigated by Congress in 1987. This program, still active today, involves training individuals for various tasks, including assassinations, and has connections to powerful figures and institutions, including Boys Town, Nebraska, a respected children’s charity.
➡ Larry King, a prominent businessman, was accused of abusing children from Boys Town, a home for troubled youth. Despite reports of his actions, no action was taken due to his influence and connections. However, in 1988, his financial crimes led to his arrest and the exposure of his pedophilic activities. Despite the evidence and testimonies, many of the influential people involved in the abuse were not prosecuted due to their power and status.
➡ The text discusses a horrifying scenario where children were manipulated and abused by a man named Larry King. King used drugs to control the children, who were then forced into sexual acts and threatened with violence. The text also mentions a disturbing ritual involving murder and sacrifice of children, which was believed to bring power through invoking demons. The victims were often very young and were brainwashed into participating in these horrific acts.
➡ In 1990, a child abuse ring was discovered in Nebraska, but the media and law enforcement discredited the victims instead of investigating the accused. The FBI and local police didn’t take the victims’ allegations seriously, and even pressured them to change their stories. When one investigator died in a suspicious plane crash, his evidence was quickly seized by the FBI. Despite the victims being acknowledged as abused, the grand jury dismissed their allegations and instead charged one victim with perjury.
➡ In 1991, Alicia Owen was sentenced to 9-25 years in prison due to a false child abuse story by Troy Bonner. Alan Baer was fined $500 for aiding prostitution, and Peter Citron served two years for a similar crime. Larry King, however, never faced child sex charges due to Bonner’s lies, but was sentenced to 15 years for a $40 million fraud. John de Camp believes this case shows a failure of justice and hopes to expose it, despite strong opposition and claims of cover-ups in high places.
…Years later, on February 5, 1999, in a civil action in a U.S. District Court in Lincoln, Nebraska, Paul Bonacci painstakingly recounted the sordid, heart breaking details of Johnny Gosch’s abduction and forced participation in an elite government sponsored pedophile sex slave ring, that dehumanized and controlled its young, hapless victims using techniques such as drugs, murder, satanic rituals, sexual abuse, and torture, resulting in MPD (multiple-personality disorder). The children were systemically programmed and “zombified” as part of the CIA’s ongoing, under-the-radar MK-ULTRA (MK = mind control) mind control program….
Paul Bonacci knew what he was talking about regarding Johnny Gosch’s kidnapping in 1982. Why? Because he was there! Bonacci’s role within the pedophile ring was simultaneously that of a victim and a perpetrator. Actually, the then 16 year old Paul Bonacci was the person who had lured and then forced Johnny into the back of the car that screeched away on that fateful September morning. It was Bonacci who had helped drug Johnny, and then proceeded to initiate him into the group, his new “family”, by sexually assaulting him.
Bonacci himself had been abducted and pressed into service as an MK-ULTRA sex slave by Lawrence E. King, a high ranking Republican operative who managed Franklin Savings and Loan in Omaha, Nebraska as a front for an internationally organized pedophile ring. He ran this pedophile ring for the benefit of government, military, and big business elites, whose patronage included political blackmail, snuff films, kiddy pornography, prostitution, illegal arms and drug running, extortion, and money laundering. This was the same Larry King who allegedly ran the infamous midnight “call-boy” tours of the White House, along with Craig Spence. Amazingly, the White House pedophile story was headlined by the Washington Times, on June 29, 1989.….
Unbelievibly, now Noreen is threatened with another loss, as if the 1982 brutal kidnapping of her son Johnny wasn’t enough. A scoundrel is using the courts to paint Noreen into a legal and financial corner in order to to steal HER remaining book inventory and the reprint rights to HER book…
The theft of her book is a way to bankrupt her and shut her up of course.
That article leads to this unsavory character and his wife Lilith. Note the winged eyebrows on this dude.
LTC Michael Aquino and his wife Lilith. Aquino was a practicing satanist, but whether he actually believed in it or used it for his role as mind-control and rape of women and children only he knows.
…The Presidio Child Development Center scandal was reported on beginning in 1986 in San Francisco. As in the Franklin case, there is no question children had been sexually abused. Literally dozens of children were medically examined and showed signs of genital and anal trauma, and 5 to 6, depending on reports, contracted chlamydia, a sexually contracted disease . The game became what could be prosecuted in a court of law.
Many of the children repeatedly identified Aquino as being present when they were transported from the base to area homes for ritualized abuse.
Aquino lived in the area and eventually his home was raided based on descriptions provided by the children of not only a satanic décor, but a soundproof room with photography and video recording equipment inside. Photographs of naked children were carried out of the Aquino home in clear trash bags, along with video tapes and other evidence. Of course, Aquino was never brought up on charges, most likely because of the level of prominence of the people depicted in those photographs and movies raping children.
The Army took over a yearto close the daycare. About the only thing it did even half right was ensure Aquino would never get promoted.
…the mother Noreen Gosch was dumbfounded didn’t know what happened demanded an investigation by the FBI and by the West Des Moines Police Department. The chief of police in West Des Moines said to her, even though he disappeared, we do not have any witnesses who saw him being grabbed and placed in a car or being taken control of, 👉so we’re not going to investigate it.👈 The FBI used the same premise they refused to investigate it. Now I’ve been involved in kidnappings in the FBI and I can tell you that it’s automatic within 24 hours, 👉at the end of 24 hours that we had to go in.👈 In my day this was back in the 50s, 60s and 70s we had to go in and start investigating the case after they’ve disappeared for 24 hours.
Today as we as I stand here and you sit there the children are disappearing in this country at the rate of 83 per hour that’s over 700,000 children a year now. I can go back to July 1982 the Readers Digest claimed there were 100,000 children disappearing every year. There’s another statistic that I find very interesting and that is that it is estimated 2,500 children are kidnapped and murdered in this country every year….
Now we know why the DemonRats are so interested in ‘unaccompanied children’ and why they ‘disappear’ from the system. The USA now has a much lower birth rate and parents are more careful about keeping a sharp watch on their kids compared to the 1950s & 60s. The pedos and satanists, needed a fresh source.
Back to the video:
I personally talk to one of the youngsters who was involved in this network. I’ve talked to several of them and he assures me that Jeff Ganon is in fact Johnny Gosch.
Well how did Johnny Gosch get from a West Des Moines Iowa 12 years old, all the way, with the phony press pass, into the White House as of a few weeks ago. What happened to Johnny is that he was transported from West Des Moines to Sioux City. He was placed on a farm for 3 weeks [and] sexually molested. He was taken to the mountains in Colorado placed in a cage in a house of some sort or cabin. And then later he was used as a sex slave. They didn’t kill him they didn’t sacrifice him although a number of these kids are sacrificed in satanic ceremonies. He escaped with another young man. They stole a car and in 1997 Johnny knocked on his mother’s door at 2:30 in the morning. Gosch said he wanted to talk to her. He was there with another young boy. He came in. He told [her] in the rain. He says “mother I was kidnapped.” Kidnapped, I’ve been placed in a covert military CIA controlled mind control project and used as a sex slave. He said I can’t come forward at this time. They will kill me and then he left in the rain . She says that’s the last time she talked to him.
[It’s] 1997 now. Now several years after that, a girl named Burns who was a producer for 20-20 decided to do a story on the Johnny Gosch kidnapping and the Nebraska case. And She interviewed me. In fact I spent 5 days with her. Gave her the benefit of all my research, which is available to you folks also. Then she got a lead that Johnny was hiding out on an Indian reservation in northern Minnesota she went there and flushed him out. He basically went into hiding and now he shows up at the White House. He was a mind control victim.
27:00 MK ULTRA MIND CONTROL PROGRAM
If you don’t know anything about MK Ultra mind control program, it came into this country through the German scientists after World War II. They were involved with the Nazis during the war and prior to World War II in developing robots and individuals to be used on command for anything that they wish ,including assassinations and other nefarious activity. The MK Ultra program, CIA mind control program, was investigated by Congress in 1987. Congress said CIA you got to quit doing that that. You’re bad boys and they said we will quit. Don’t kid yourself. It’s is very active today. There are people like Barbara Hartwell out there who are mind control victims. She’s another one who’s been bashing me. I must be doing a pretty good job because I wouldn’t have these people criticizing me on the internet like they do. Of course it doesn’t bother me in the least.
But going back to the Nebraska case [and] MK Ultra. A lot of this training took place at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha Nebraska which was strategic care command headquarters. You recall after 9-11 the president flew to I think it was the South someplace in Louisiana or New Orleans and then he flew to Offutt Air Force Base in the afternoon of September 11th. They had a party there that morning at 9:30 in the morning. He missed the party. He was sorry he missed the party. Warren Buffett was there by the way.
The MK Ultra program has been very actively administered not only at Offutt Air Force Base, [but] at Fort Brag North Carolina, the place where Dr McDonald’s family was slaughtered in 1970.
32 minutes. KENNEDY ASSASSINATION
I used to be in charge of the FBI in Dallas. So in checking into the Jack Kennedy assassination, I learned no question about it that it was a joint hit by the CIA and the Chicago mob. Sam Giancana was head of the mob in Chicago. Three days before he was to testify before Congress, [he]was shot and killed…
33 minutes PEARL HARBOR
I interviewed the naval intelligence officer who on December 4th 1941 received information that the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor. We had broken the secret code of the Japanese. He told me personally, on December the 4th, he gave it to his superiors they passed it up the line…
34 – 36 minutes WACO TEXAS
..look at Waco. The military was involved in destroying, shooting and killing women and children. Also the FBI. They use tanks, military tanks in violation of Posse Comitatus… They got away with it… in Waco there were four ATF agents who were shot and killed. some of the BranchDavidians were tried sentenced for these quote murders… in researching the four ATF agents who were shot, I learned every one of them was shot in the head. Now for those of you who have been in the military that’s a sniper shot no question about it. [in] one of [the] men the bullet trajectory was from above down through his lip and into his body probably from a helicopter. It’s interesting to note that these four men, ATF agents, at one time were all bodyguards for former President Bill Clinton..
37:09 WORLD TRADE CENTER CAR BOMBING
We have the 1993… the car bombing of the World Trade Center. I have a copy of the New York Times [from] October 28th 1993. And in the article was reporting from The Trial that took place [of] an FBI informant named Salam who was in among the terrorists. He testified that he was commissioned by the terrorists to put the bomb together to bomb the World Trade Center in February 1993.
Fortunately for him, when he met with the terrorist he wore a body mic so he could record every word that was said. Unknown to the FBI, when he met with the FBI, he also wore a body mic. That was probably what kept him from being set up and framed and sent to prison. This is actually in this newspaper article he went to his FBI superiors. [He] says I’ve been commissioned to put the bomb together we’re going to use a dummy bomb aren’t we and 👉he was told by his FBI superiors no we’re going to use a real bomb.👈
Now I don’t understand why Congress and Senate investigators and our leaders in Washington DC are not jumping up and down over that situation. 👉The FBI not only knew in advance of the car bombing, they furnished the ingredients for the bomb. [ Jan 6th Pipe Bomb anyone? – GC] 👈
Why doesn’t somebody take some action in that area. Why doesn’t somebody investigate this International child kidnapping ring being operated by the CIA. Why are these congressmen voting on bills like the Patriot Act which takes away many of our constitution rights and civil liberties in the best interest of quote protection for our country and protection from the terrorists.
Let me tell you something ladies and gentlemen, there are people in our government, a rogue outfit, whatever I’m not sure who, are actually Behind These Terrorist Acts. And the reason they’re behind the terrorist acts is so they can pass bills like the Patriot Act and the reason the congressmen and the Senators vote for these stupid bills. Stupid by our terms and our definition, is because they’ve have been set up and framed through sex and drugs.
40:11 OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING
So then we have Oklahoma City 1995.
I personally made two trips to Oklahoma City. I investigated Oklahoma City. Because of my report, the defense attorney for Timothy McVeigh, sent two of his investigators to interview me. I spent four hours with them actually. I got a lot of information out of them. For example they told me that they were allowed to tour the remains of the M building in Oklahoma City in the presence of a US Marshall, but they were not allowed under any circumstances to take soil samples or to pick up any evidence for examination. Stephen Jones was their attorney.
I heard that they were going to tear down the building.
Now you can trace bombs through what they call the tagging chemicals. When I heard this, I called John deCamp. I said, “John we’ve got to prevent that building from coming down.” I actually called an outfit in Chicago of the Pat Kennedy group, who are specialists in examining evidence of this type. John called McVeigh’s attorney, Jones. Because John had a client who he was representing, who was involved in the case, John said I’ll handle the paper. We’ll have a hearing. We will prevent that building from coming down. The next thing we heard the building was coming down. John called Jones. “What’s going on and he had no good answer for it. That was evidence. I’ve been at many a crime scene and it is critical that the evidence be preserved. That was a huge cover up.
McVeigh wrote a letter to his sister. [Jennifer] was in Special Forces. The government said the military says “oh no he flunked out” He didn’t flunk out. He was recruited out of Special Forces according to him in a letter he wrote to his sister. [He was recruited] to be trained to be a CIA assassin and also to work for the CIA International drug operation both against the competition and for the CIA pro- drug people. McVeigh was in my opinion an MK Ultra mind control victim. He was visited in prison in Oklahoma and in Colorado by Dr Jolly West. This was secret by the way, I happen to find out because I made some phone calls to the right people. Jolly West was one of the foremost leaders along with Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA’s MK Ultra mind control operation.
Some additional information about Dr Jolly West, so you understand the implications of what Ted is talking about:
Correspondence Between Jolly West and Sidney Gottlieb, Director of the CIA’s Operation MKULTRA (1 minute video)
Jul 21, 2022
Never-before published internal documents from the Lackland Air Force base psychiatrist who was secretly contracted to the CIA’s MKULTRA program to experiment with airman using drugs and hypnosis — without their knowledge. These exclusive letters between psychiatrist Louis “Jolly” West and MKULTRA’s director, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, outline the men’s plans for creating mind controlled assassins. Their work began in June 1953, one year before the murder of three-year-old Chere Jo Horton by Lackland airman Jimmy Shaver.
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Why would somebody like Jolly West go interview McVeigh not only in Oklahoma but also in Colorado during the trial? Because he was a mind control victim himself. At one time it was reported, I think in US News & World Report, that McVeigh had a microchip in his buttocks. Our military reportedly have been using microchips to keep track of their soldiers.
The bomb in the truck allegedly was a fertilizer bomb. The government first announced that it was a 1500lb bomb and then a 2500 lb bomb and I think it ended up being 4,800 lb. That bomb that was in the truck destroyed half the building. A 4,800 lb fertilizer bomb, an ammonia nitrate fertilizer bomb dissipates and did not have the potential, the possibility, of destroying that much of the building. After the Oklahoma City bomb went off I had a call from a friend of mine, Michael Riconosciuto. For those of you who are making notes look up in the internet, Michael Riconosciuto. I’ve been working with Michael since the early 1980s, 1982.
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It’s when I first met him. He was a CIA agent operative for some two decades he was also an FBI informant at one time. His father owned the Hercules Manufacturing in Silicone Valley California. Hercules manufacturing developed what is known as the electro-hydrodynamic gaseous fuel device which is a highly classified bomb. The bomb was was actually manufactured by Dyno Nobel out of Salt Lake City.
I want to stop here and mention Brave has ZERO info on “Electro-hydrodynamic gaseous fuel device” (I was trying to find the correct spelling.) However when I tried Yandex, I got a whole bunch of hits for “Hercules Manufacturing Electro-hydrodynamic gaseous fuel device” For example:
Now Michael, in the meantime, is in jail now. Right? In fact I talked to him yesterday because he started to talk before the Brooks committee about a very interesting case involving the Promis Software [Inslaw, 30 Inc.]. The Promis Software was a computer operation. They developed all kinds of intelligence information on you, and I, and every citizen in America. The Department of Justice leased it for two years. At the end of two years they refused to pay Bill and Nancy Hamilton the $10 million they owed them. Then the Department of Justice through Earl Bryant, past president of United Press International, took that computer [and] sold it around the world. Sold it to the French, to the English, Israelis, Canadians. Unknown to these foreign countries, [to] the officials in these foreign countries, there was a trap in the computer. A very clever trapdoor [that] secretly allowed us, the US government, to retrieve all the information they developed.
Michael Riconosciuto was the CIA agent who developed the trapdoor in the Promis Software Computer. When Congress started to investigate it in the late 1980s, they called on Michael. We want you to testify. Michael received a threatening phone call two weeks before he was to testify, he claimed. From a fellow named Peter Videnieks of the US Department of Justice. “If you testify you’ll be sorry.” Michael testified anyway. A few weeks later [He] was arrested for drugs [and] is now serving a 30-year prison sentence because he dared to expose these nefarious activities by this Rogue Criminal Enterprise operating within the confines of the US government.
Michael has been released and is scared to death he will meet the same fate as journalist Danny Casolaro. The documentary is by Christian Hansen & Zachary Treitz. Riconoscuito was one of the chief sources for Casolaro. Michael had a lot of inside info on the people concerned.
Back to the rest of the video.
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I gave you a little background on Michael. Going back to Oklahoma City now, I want you to understand who Michael is. He’s not some guy walking down the street with a grocery basket looking for a recycling center okay? He has credibility. Now Michael called me right after the Oklahoma City bomb went off and he said Ted, (He called from prison by the way) that’s my bomb meaning [that it is the bomb] Hercules developed. That it was not an ammonium nitrate bomb. Now when that [Hercules] bomb was tested in 1982 I happened to be with a group of intelligence agents in Palm Springs waiting for the results of that test.
It was tested in Area 51. It was under estimated because the power, it was so powerful, that two of the technicians died. They underestimated the strength of it. This, I call it a barometric bomb, this barometric bomb, according to Michael was what was in the car not a fertilizer bomb. I have an Oklahoma City report on that. So what did I do as an investigator?
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Well I went to the Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey. I gave him the contract number which I obtained through a Science magazine. One of my associates actually did the research on that and I gave the public Picatinny Arsenal contract number and the Picatinny came back and said there’s no such contract here, even though I had the contract. By the way that’s documented in my report. I went to Dyno Nobel who I knew manufactured it and they didn’t even bother to respond. It’s interesting to note that a Dyno Nobel expert witness testified at the Grand Jury when they indicted McVeigh in September of 1995
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Some five or six months after the 19th of April 1995 Oklahoma City, in an article in Fireman’s Magazine. It was written by the editor of Fireman’s Magazine. The information was obtained from the Oklahoma City Fire Department. In that article, again that’s in my report, in that article it states that four unexploded devices were taken out of the building. When people were in the building after the bombing, DYING, they discontinued the rescue efforts for some 5 hours, while they carried out a bunch of government files. Men in blue suits of some sort. Sweatsuits. So what I’m telling you is Oklahoma City was perpetrated by certain people other than McVeigh and Nichols and now Roger Moore.
If you read the paper recently, the gun dealer who claims that he was robbed of his guns in Arkansas and that that money was used to finance Oklahoma City Bombing, Roger Moore, has been accused by Terry Nichols of being involved in it. Roger Moore denies it. Roger Moore at the time of the Oklahoma City Bombing was an FBI informant.I had an Inside investigator in Oklahoma City tell me that there were at least 11 other individuals involved in Oklahoma City okay?
52 minutes 9-11 ATTACK ON THE TWIN TOWERS
That brings us up, we’ve gone through Pearl Harbor, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Car bombing 93, Oklahoma City 95, that brings us up to 9-11.
As I said my [client] was in prison. I’m his “investigator of record” which means I’m like an attorney. I should have access to him on a regular basis. I represent this man. For a year prior to 9-11, actually year and a half. I tried to get in and see Michael. He was in prison in Northern Pennsylvania. I was in the Philadelphia area. The Bureau of Prisons would not allow me to see [him.]
I finally was able to talk to Michael in January 2003. I flew to the east coast spent three days with him.
Michael told me that he had developed information from among his contacts in advance of 911 that they were going to be involved in using missiles, airplane missiles and they were going to be involved in skyjacking. They were training Arab terrorists. Also he knew the identity of the person in the United States. An Arab who lived in Patterson New Jersey who was the leader of terrorist activity by the Arabs in this country. Now Michael had this information, because you’re saying how can Michael develop this information being in prison? Because I met with Osama Bin Laden, along with Michael, along with the state department representative, in the spring of 1986.
At that time I was contacted by former top Reagan Ronnie Reagan official who said can we help the Afghan Rebels? They were our friends then. So I called Michael, and I said what do you think? He said let’s meet. So there was a fourth fellow there. We didn’t know at the time it was Osama Bin Laden. He actually used the name Tim Osman traveling under a Turkish passport. But because of Michael I passed the ball to him. I just arranged for the meeting and went on.
Michael traveled all over the world putting this package together to furnish the Afghan Rebels with the surface to air missiles that defeated the Soviets. Really shot down their helicopters. As a result of this Michael developed sources inside the Arab world. And that’s how Michael knew in advance about 911.
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Michael told the FBI on March the 20th 2001 about this plan to use Skyjacked airplanes and use them as missiles. He also furnished to the FBI one of his sources, one of his confidential sources inside the Arab group. The FBI interviewed him, threatened him with prosecution and deported him. That man along with his family have disappeared. We think that they’re dead. The FBI refused, absolutely refused to look into this situation. More shocking is that Michael had the names of the people who were obtaining the false names. Of the people, the Arabs, who were obtaining false passports. had their names. He had the source who could furnish him that information he told FBI Agent Keith Cutri on March 20, 2001. He told Cutri. He says“I’ll give you these names, the name of this person who’s coordinating the whole project for the Arabs,providing I be given immunity and he be given immunity.”Mr. Cutri, in spite of the fact he was armed with this information six months prior to 9/11, came back two days after 9/11, on the 13th and saw Michael in prison again. [He] accused Michael of being anti-government, anti FBI, of being a publicity seeker, and so forth, being disloyal. And so Michael, of course, didn’t have much to say after that.
Michael is still in prison, as I said. But, we had this information. The FBI did nothing with it. Cutri admit it, on September 13, 2001. Admitted that the FBI did nothing with it. So, after I visited Michael, in 2003, I felt it was important that I confirm that the FBI did meet with him.
The Bureau of Prisons would not furnish Michael with the visitors list to confirm it. So I started writing letters to the FBI through Senator George Allen to confirm that he did in fact meet with them. I wanted to document it. I also asked for the identity of the other agent who was with agent Cutri and I had a terrible time. It took me a year and a half writing letters to the FBI to get them to admit that they’ interviewed Michael on March the 20th 2001. I finally did have that information. That information is available again in one of my reports. My terrorism report that I have in the bag. So that basically brings me up to the the present time.
I think my time is up but I feel compelled, as a former FBI agent, I had all this training and I feel compelled to do everything I can to educate as many fellow Americans as I can, as to what’s going on behind the scenes. We have being operated and orchestrated primarily by US military intelligence. A Covert Criminal Enterprise involving FBI and the CIA active in this country today. [It] is being covered up right from the beginning.
By the way, they tried to frame me on a drug deal back in 1984. It didn’t work. The girl that they used to try to frame me contacted me, and said I need to meet with you. We met, [and ]she told me the whole story. I took a signed statement from her. Her name is Pam Fawsett. And, I said to Pam, I said Pam you’re working for these people the DEA and the FBI in Modesto. By the way she was making phone calls to me. I said you’re working with the people trying to set me up. Why have you — and of course in the phone call she kept trying to get me to make admissions that had knowledge of a felony and I wouldn’t. I said I don’t have any knowledge of that or was involved in a felony.
Actually I said Pam look you were working with these people for 6 months. They gave you $2,000 you had the run of the FBI office. You had your own coffee cup. Why did you come to me and tell me this now. I’d helped her, give her little advice about her 14-year-old son in the interim. You know talking back and forth there, any individual would do [it] who might be able to help. She said Ted I woke up the other morning and I realized you’re the only honest son of a bitch I’ve talked to in 6 months. Those were her exact words.
The FBI not only tried to set me up on a drug deal, I’ve also been the victim of four separate investigations. They tried to set me up on a fraud case in Denver, in Dallas, and most recently. Very frankly I’ve been under surveillance, heavy surveillance. I’ve had illegal entries into my car into my apartment. There’s been attempts to gas me within the last month and I was able to anticipate it and avoid it. But they don’t want people like me out telling the truth and that’s what I’m doing.
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I will not stop I will continue to do so in the future so that’s basically it. I brought you from 1776 to the present time. We went through one conspiracy after another.
I had given Jim Nichols my Oklahoma City bombing report. Jim said to Bryant Gumbel, he says, did you read Ted Gunderson’s Oklahoma City report. Gumbel says, “Oh, Ted Gunderson’s a conspiracy theorist.”
I want you to know I’m not I’m not a conspiracy theorist I’m a conspiracy realist. It is there. All you have to do is get your own website, get your own internet go out there. There’s a lot of disinformation out there but you can pick out what’s really solid and what’s really truthful.
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I have done, I have 25 years of research. [It is] on that back table back there. If you buy any of my reports or this video tape or any of my material I want you to make a promise that you will make copies and distribute it far and wide. We need to wake up America right now. Let me emphasize again I’m not anti-American. I don’t believe in violence. I believe in change through legal means. But we need to wake up an apathetic sleeping society that is active in America today. This not only ties into MK Ultra – CIA, it ties into Satanism. There are approximately 4 million practicing Satanist in America today involved in the Nebraska case.
I can go on about satanic cults for another, but I think my time is almost up. I might mention that speaking of Satanism, there are between 50,000-60,000 human sacrifices, according to three different sources, in this country every year. The satanic cults operate secretly. The Satanic Cults are along with our Covert Criminal Enterprise within the government, a serious threat to our society
I thank you very much.
The Ted Gunderson Chronicles (Part 2) Various editions:
How to Distinguish a Key Principle of Reason, Logic and Science, from Irrational Exuberance in Contrarian Explanation
I really try to avoid using the term crackpot.
In science, the term crackpot is a bit like the terms Nazi, pedophile, and antisemite are in politics. The word freezes conversation. It strikes fear – often very unfairly – into all who are listening. Indeed, it is used in science for that very reason. Crackpot is very similar to the word crank, only worse. Using it in regards to a single person rarely helps, and using it against the wrong person can actually hurt – both the individual, and science as an enterprise.
As a young but very real scientist, I met MANY emerging young crackpots, who considered me a potential sounding board – and I like to think that I converted most of them to either outright scientists, or scientifically literate aficionados of real science. In fact, I don’t recall ANY junior crackpots who I could not make more logical and scientific by patience, understanding, and teaching of the sublime joys of REAL understanding and discovery.
More than that, was the GOOD that crackpots did for me. By patiently trying to understand what crackpots were saying, I invariably walked away a better scientist. Errors don’t just force you to ask ONE right question – they force you to ask MANY excellent questions. Sometimes it requires the patience of Job, but that’s just one more reason why reading my Bible has been so helpful.
Crackpottery, analyzed deeply, always leads back to real science, often including things I didn’t know, or didn’t know well enough. Most crackpot science is – in my experience, one of three things: (1) some very illustrative, useful, and “teachable” error, or (2) some well-known and very beautiful aspect of science or mathematics, which seems novel, but isn’t, or (3) some kind of “old science” which is very intuitive, but is now understood to be wrong.
Of course, there can be many layers of JUNK on top of the key scientific mistake, as the crackpot uses even more crackpot ideas to hold everything together, as the key idea fails. However, I would not want to laugh too loudly about such a dubious tactic, as “Bondo and paint” are also used very effectively in real science, politics, and law.
Sometimes, when discussing crackpottery in science, I like to say this.
“There is a potential scientist in every crackpot, and a potential crackpot in every scientist.”
I find that crackpot ideas are a great introduction to a conversation about real science. The trick is turning the exuberant crackpot away from the dopaminergic lust of superficial logical connections – and getting them addicted to the patient romance of deep conceptual relationships and understanding. If the latter reminds you of real love – Biblical, academic, humanitarian, or philosophical – you are absolutely right. I believe it is our duty, as people who LOVE science and math, to elevate crackpots from their trap, even if we fail, but in the process, to “teach to the fourth wall”. And that is exactly what I’m doing now.
The hot pants of OMG / string of buzzwords / “maybe this stuff is all related and I can see it” is the addictive pseudoscientific experience that crackpots cannot get out of their minds. But let them experience a “fellow scientist” showing them that they are TRULY CORRECT about something that they said, and how this idea was explored by famous scientists in history, and you can begin the process of instilling the DISCIPLINE that the crackpot so sorely needs.
Reforming a crackpot can take days, weeks, months or years. The key is to nurture the healthy joys that come from disciplined understanding, as a substitute for the toxic buzz of loose conjecture rooted in loose quasi-understanding.
Some crackpots are beyond help, and scientists who are teaching to more open minds (think about our own SteveInCO) cannot afford to waste their time on those few minds that will never attain self-skepticism within this lifetime. Walking away from crackpots who have very intentionally broken and super-glued the keys of reason in the corresponding locks, is simply necessary.
I get this. For all my criticisms of Neil deGrasse Tyson, and scientific disagreements with him, I completely understand his need to tell Terrence Howard to “move along, thank you” and to stop listening to the nonsensical ideas of Terryology.
Note that Joe Rogan does NOT get this, and he will need to be gently schooled on this point. I admire that Joe will listen to Terrence, but Joe is also a bit too easily swept up into Terrence’s world of delusional mumbo-jumbo.
Terrence Howard and Terryology are where we begin this discussion.
To be brief, Terrence was known more as an actor than as a pseudoscientist, but when he appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience, he exploded into the national consciousness. I am including the entire 3-hour interview, but I strongly caution against watching the whole thing without having some of the context I’m going to provide. On the other hand, a few random clicks will give you the flavor in a most enlightening way.
Terrence Howard – Full Interview on The Joe Rogan Experience
Terrence Howard is clearly a nice guy, and I am certain that I could be his friend. We might even have some profound discussions about the periodic table, as he comes very close to real science there, and THAT is where I would strike to try to reform him (see sidebar in Appendix). However, he is unlikely to ever gain the discipline of self-skepticism, to temper his equally welcome skepticism of scientific orthodoxy. The best that can be done, is to use him as a living example of an important dysfunction in science, and to educate the masses by reacting to him.
Surprisingly, that works really well, and that’s why I’m here.
Terrence is (in my humble opinion) a living example of the idea that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Terrence is an actor, but before that, he ALMOST became a scientist – specifically, a chemical engineer. However, at the exact moment when accepting some discipline from his teacher would have helped him become a true scientist, he rejected the teaching, and dropped out of school.
To get to the heart of that break, Terrence believes that, because 2 times 2 equals 4, 1 times 1 should equal 2. Now, I will admit that the feeling that something should be different is extremely useful in scientific discovery, but we also know from experience that should is extremely dangerous in almost any context. Psychologists routinely repair people by getting them to understand that their list of shoulds has grown too long and nonsensical to be mentally and physically healthy.
Terrence claims that the issue of this mathematical argument is why he dropped out of college – that his teacher could not accept this new form of math, which is part of what Terrence calls Terryology.
I have no idea if that account is true, or the full story, and I strongly suspect that Terrence was having more trouble than just a disagreement with his teacher over math. There is even some doubt that Terrence was ever in college, but let’s just set that aside, and assume that Terrence did start to attend college. It is very likely that Terrence had a bad understanding of math at very basic levels, and was not able to follow the teachers in his classes, due to that faulty understanding. However, in the hubris of academic freedom, which new students often experience, I suspect that Terrence basically went off the rails. Here is a teacher talking about his theory of Terrence’s defective education.
Many people think that Terrence is conflating addition (where 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 are true) with multiplication. I have my own theory – that Terrence is simply intuiting a new operation – unfortunately rather ill-defined – which is basically y=2x but poorly expressed as y=x*x or y=x^2 (y equals x squared).
And once I realized this, I noted something else.
If you ever had any differential (first semester) calculus, you may have noted that y=2x is – more or less – the first derivative of y=x^2 (y equals x squared).
This video explains what that means.
My explanation of Terrence’s idea would then be that the thing that should be 2 at 1, but is also 4 at 2, is in fact the derivative of self-multiplication – not self-multiplication itself.
I’m definitely NOT saying that Terrence Howard “re-invented calculus”, but what I am saying is that his “invention” – in a very typical crackpot way – is in fact a personal rediscovery of something real, known, and actually very beautiful – and THAT is part of the seduction of crackpottery. Terrence is able to see it, but he doesn’t have the patience and rigor to realize what he’s intuiting, nor the language to communicate it. He TRIES to communicate it, but he fails to use the language others have agreed to use. He uses new terms – neologisms – and people almost get it, in a similar way. As Terrence piles on more analogies and scientific verbiage, people nod and make sounds of insight, but nobody really, truly, understands.
Normal people having beautiful mathematical realizations is not uncommon. Moreover, these realizations are sometimes hard to put into words. Thus, these ideas may seem novel and inventive – and they are in fact novel to the person thinking them, and they were likely inventive, to at least some extent (unless they were just badly remembered math lessons). But the idea that this new thought is a NEW INVENTION TO THE WORLD is a huge leap that is almost never true.
The aforementioned near-tangibility of crackpot ideas, and the communicability of that near-tangibility, are part of the danger of crackpottery – the fact that others “kinda get it” just like Terrence does. This crackpot virality spreads a sort of vague almost-thinking which reminds me of the feckless and far-too-innocent Eloi in H.G. Wells story of The Time Machine.
However, don’t expect me to push for “Big Sister” and her net nanny censors to crack down on crackpots. Instead, we need more people to understand math, and to see the beauty in things like y=x^2 and its derivatives.
Biology – same thing. Remember – the vague “almost tangible idea” that men can be women if we all believe they are, is another great example of a viral crackpot idea – in this case, one that the current government endorses.
Trans women are real – they just aren’t truly women, even if we all try to believe that they are. I’m not calling for censorship of that idea, either. I’m calling for no censorship on the questioning of it, just like I would call for no censorship on Terrence Howard’s ideas, nor on the criticism of his ideas.
If you have already been somewhat seduced by Terrence Howard, you really need to listen to some of his critics. That said, I recommend an attitude of love and sympathy – even when you feel frustrated and annoyed. See if you can “do better” than these two critics, in terms of sharing their ability to be skeptical of what is obviously wrong, and remaining firm in your resistance to “feeling” the truth of what Terrence is saying, while still maintaining open-mindedness, and a desire to “make Terrence make sense” – but without compromising your skepticism.
What is the key difference between scientists like me and Steve, and pseudoscientists like Terrence?
Speaking for myself, the difference for me, is that I test and beat up my crackpot ideas, so in almost all cases where my “brilliant” idea isn’t simply WRONG, I discover that I’ve rediscovered something beautiful. Very few of my crackpot ideas have value, and most of those end up being hypotheses and conjectures that are not only limited, but need more work.
In my opinion, you’re not a true scientist unless you’ve rejected literally hundreds or thousands of your own ideas – refining just a few of the survivors into something that might have some limited value.
Self-skepticism is necessary. Enough to tame crackpot ideas, but not so much as to stifle innovative thinking.
What is the difference between, say, Robert Malone, who I deeply respect as a scientist, and Terrence Howard?
In a nutshell, Malone has been skeptical of his own ideas – and at a level which required extreme honesty and moral courage. His willingness to admit that his own technological children – mRNA therapeutics and vaccines – have problems and still need work, is just mensch level eleven. Time after time, Malone sees though the bullshit of a scientific orthodoxy which has cowered before self-interest, money, and power.
Malone, like many who question the current media-and-government-driven “new consensus” in vaccine and therapeutic science, points out the hypocrisy of the sudden new orthodoxy, relative to many of its backers’ own well-established principles of ethics and morality. Examples include the Hippocratic oath, “first do no harm”, patient rights, medical privacy and freedom, and a host of other ideas which were unassailable, just a few years ago. In essence, Malone calls upon the orthodoxy to live up to its own ideals, not in the Satanic Alinsky way that actually hates and despises those ideals, but in a Godly way that deeply loves and respects those ideals.
Crackpots, in contrast, tend to reject the orthodoxy in a dismissive way, without respecting any, or most, of its underlying and fundamental tenets. They almost always fail to explain what’s wrong with the consensus view, or the underlying principles. They dismiss it without adequate explanation. In fact, crackpots who disrespect Einstein without actually doing the hard work of understanding Einstein first, are so pervasive that disrespect of Einstein is almost diagnostic for crackpottery.
Although spotting and pointing out crackpot thinking is important, it is also important for us to push back, when the crackpot term is applied unfairly to people who are simply not crackpots.
Robert Malone, who my friends and I admire, is an obvious example to us of somebody who is not a crackpot, but Neil deGrasse Tyson and Peter Hotez, who we disagree with and don’t like, are also not crackpots, if we are honest. Neil and Peter and their ilk may have other problems, including extreme bias, corruption, and compromise by unethical government involvements, but they are not crackpots.
Even when they look and sound like crackpots!
Now, there are thousands if not millions of true crackpots, most of whom labor in obscurity, and I can’t show them all, but I would be remiss not to include at least one, a man named Roger Spurr, whose awful theories have been discussed on this site very much in the last few days.
Note the disrespect for Einstein – this is very typical.
If you can’t abide listening to his very vague and loose reasoning in the video, try this website, where you can read it instead. For me, that’s easier.
Now, to be completely honest, I (and everybody else with any significant background in physics) have my own “crackpot” speculations on what may be right or wrong with the Standard Model of particle physics, as well as the top competitors for extending or replacing it. My personal crackpottery includes disrespect for supersymmetry, and massive side-eye on what I would call “irrational exuberance by the mainstream in regard to dark matter.” Nevertheless, I am always eager to test those thoughts, trash those thoughts, or modify those thoughts, based on the latest experimental results. Indeed, when the definitive experiments come in, supporting either supersymmetry or dark matter, I will be converted by them – as I should be. What I can say with certainty about Spurr’s reasoning, is that I would have thrown out nearly all of his thoughts long ago, based on the huge quantities of very solid and very basic evidence against them.
In many ways – like the term used by Wolfgang Pauli, that became (fairly or unfairly) the title of a book criticizing the non-productivity of string theory – Spurr is not even wrong.
So what is the path forward?
How do we deal with “bad science” – pseudoscience – crackpot theories – whatever you want to call them?
The Founding Fathers had a very excellent idea with Free Speech.
It is my belief that the ultimate protection against crackpottery is free speech. As long as we can criticize not only the orthodoxy, but the ideas of our fellow critics, then everything is subject to healthy sunlight. When secrecy is used to protect ideas from challenge, or government uses its punitive powers to protect its own very open crackpottery, bad things happen.
To quote a certain blog, quoting a certain scientist:
“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.”
J. Robert Oppenheimer
I’m good with sunlight, as a way to help us find truth. And I hope you are, too.
One place where Terrence Howard comes very close to actual innovative thinking is in his personal interpretation of the periodic table of the elements. This, despite many, many problems.
Terrence’s thinking about the elements is still (IMO) rather crackpot, and although his view of the table in terms of frequencies seems fascinating, it’s truly unnecessary, as his critics point out. Terrence’s few predictions are also quite wrong. Thus, his very different viewpoint is not clearly any BETTER than any other view of the elements, when gauged by the very basic metric of prediction generation. What Terrence is saying simply doesn’t appear to be useful.
HOWEVER, Terrence does come up with a very nice concept, which is hidden by his crackpot terminology, and almost lost by his inability to create a truly marketable neologism for it.
I happen to be good at neologisms, so I’ll do it for him.
As I’m watching Terrence, I am quite certain that he has “rediscovered” or “repackaged” some well-known concepts which are an important part of freshman chemistry. In particular, the concepts of electronegativity and electropositivity, which are powerful ideas about how different elements behave due to their electronics, seem to be things he’s describing.
Even more, if we accept that Terrence has rediscovered electronegativity and electropositivity, then he also seems to be proposing a very nice idea which bridges those two concepts, and which is frankly very needed, that idea being what I might call, more marketably, electroneutrality.
This is not Earth-shattering, but it’s nice.
So let me just be very clear. In a crackpot way, using bad terminology, making bad predictions, and wrapping it all in an unnecessary “musical” paradigm which most people don’t find useful at all, Terrence has still pushed a rather innovative idea – that highly “electroneutral” elements like carbon are a special thing we need to talk about in that context.
None of that is anything that my freshman chemistry professor didn’t say in different, more conventional ways. That’s exactly how I spotted it in Terrence’s ramblings. But bear in mind – that man was a true genius – with a photographic memory. He was a highly awarded and esteemed scientist, who worked on the Manhattan Project and many other such things. He was a rock star at the university. Students fought with each other and with the campus bureaucrats to get into his classes.
And while that great educator came close, but didn’t quite do it, Terrence straight-up pinpointed the fact that a curve inflection (think second derivative!) located between electronegativity and electropositivity is actually something worth conceptualizing, appreciating, and TEACHING.
I can imagine Terrence in my college chemistry class, taking that idea up to my professor, and that wonderful man not only listening and understanding through the broken terminology, but doing a complete lecture to us on what Terrence had just told him, or using it to create a test question, which he often did when somebody said something he found to be profound. I can see that same professor pushing the idea in chemical education – maybe even writing a paper on the concept. And in doing so, he would have demonstrated discipline to Terrence, showing him the true value of his thinking, and helped him to become an honest-to-God scientist.
I’m not certain if Terrence’s musical and frequency viewpoints have any real value in chemistry, but I do find them fascinating for both scientific and artistic reasons. Beyond that, the reason I don’t dismiss the possibility outright, is that Terrence put his finger on the undervaluing of electroneutrality in chemistry, using his bizarre methodology. So the fact that he came up with a worthwhile thought using it, may say something for the methodology used, especially if the latter could be cleaned up and made practical. I would bet against it, but not so much that I might not actually try to fully understand his frequency methodology at some point.
Like I said earlier, I have always gained something by trying to understand crackpots. Because, as I said, in every crackpot, there is a real scientist trying to get out and say something.
In closing, I’d like to thank Brave and Free for bringing the above video, which started all of this discussion. That is precisely why we’re here, practicing Free Speech – so that we can all learn something!
Yeah, good luck with that. Just read from here down to the TL;DR if you need to get out of here fast.
There are two main ways that people try to infiltrate this site.
One is by hacking into existing accounts by attempted logins using guesswork on credentials. We have a nice solution to that problem which I will not get into.
The second is by making comments, as either new commenters, or spoofed existing commenters, which comments have to be approved. This second form of infiltration, by comments seeking approval, is what we will discuss today.
So what is happening there?
TL;DR
Somebody just stepped up the level of phony commenting, by using AI to generate a “spam” comment which is substantially more convincing than our normal phony poster spam. It’s probably Ukrainians backed by the CIA, but we’ll never know for sure. The bottom line is that the latest AI allows non-English speakers to generate much better phony messaging, as you will see. I expect that intelligent, targeted, AI comments and “solutions” to the problem will be part of the other side’s big attack before the election.
Background
Since my recent whistle-blow about Boeing, we’ve had some obvious CIA probes, which I have mentioned obliquely in my own comments, and this incoming AI comment may actually be part of that campaign.
For those who are unfamiliar with “spam comments on blogs and websites”, I am presenting some background which others can skip over. Either way, the following sections present some history on my having to deal with spam comments. This provides context to what I just noticed.
Spam and Anti-Spam as a Pincer Move
Comments on this site are one of the primary vectors used by people trying to get into here to undermine things. By far the biggest portion of these comments are spam – people simply trying to post ads, links, and junk.
But things get worse. Beyond spam as a problem, there are fake solutions to the spam problem, and those are also very insidious. The combination of “spam and anti-spam” can be used to censor and control.
I strongly suspect that anti-AI-spam software, with a strong, designed, and desired side-effect of censorship, will be part of future problems, too.
It’s a lot like control by virus and vaccine, if you know what I mean!
Anyway, let’s dig into spam-vs-anti-spam, because it explains a lot about spam comments.
Anti-Spam as a Trojan Horse for Censorship
We have a very nice spam filter, which actually WORKS, because it’s not the phony spam filter called Akismet, which is supplied for “free” by WordPressDotCom. WordPress.com pretends that Akismet is a different company, but it’s just a dodge. Akismet is WordPress.
I spent years dealing with “bugs” in the Akismet and JetPack plug-ins, before I realized that those bugs are actually features for the other side. Akismet, for example, doesn’t like certain wonderful ladies and gentlemen on this site, such as Duchess01, scott467, GA/FL, Linda, and other commenters, both past and present. Akismet would basically hide these people’s comments as “spam”, trying to annoy them and get them to leave the site.
Imagine if Duchess wasn’t here. We would be half-naked, spiritually. And that’s not any way to be, in the middle of a spiritual war. Armor up, baby! I am SO GLAD that I fought the good fight against Akismet, and managed to keep Duchess on the site. Listening to the Lord with my heart is ALWAYS one of the smartest things I can do.
Fake anti-spam software is an amazing form of censorship. WordPressDotCom has some other ways of doing that, too, through “defects” in the JetPack plugin’s features. Those “defects” prevent people from posting. I was very fortunate that Linda’s husband knew which feature to turn off to get out of one of these “bugs”, and that was the beginning of my road to freedom from WordPressDotCom shenanigans.
Hiding weaponized software as carefully fed and watered “bugs” was a sharp gig, but it was too obvious to a developer, coder, builder, tester and debugger like me. Once I figured out that it was THEM and not us, I pressured Akismet in various ways to “fix things” for the particular people who were being locked out, despite the fact that Akismet makes this hard as hell. They slow-walked me through various processes, but each time I would up the ante of public disclosure quickly and exponentially, until they would very rapidly BTFO.
All of this was later solved by getting off WordPressDotCom and having our own, pure, WordPress DOT ORG site.
Here are three prior posts where I called out Automattic – the company behind WP.com. I got INSTANT BTFO on their censorship with these posts.
On our new site – this one – I was able to ditch Akismet for a far better spam solution, which I will not name. The spam filter isn’t perfect, but it’s close. VERY little spam gets past it.
Amazing what one can do, when one HONESTLY tries to stop spam.
But HERE is the kicker.
What spam does get past, is always VERY interesting.
Sometimes, it’s not actually spam, but something even more insidious – a targeted attempt to get a registered commenter on the site.
Let’s talk about that.
Site Infiltration Through Fake Spam
There is a level of website comment spam that is just straightforward and obvious links to websites, companies, crazy people, and malware. Stuff like VIAGRA, ONLINE GAMBLING, and CHURCH OF BABYLON FIVE REVELATION. Let’s call that “level zero“.
We’re not talking about that. Almost any anti-spam software eliminates that stuff immediately, or lets just a wee bit of it through for approval or rejection on lighter settings, to let the administrator know that the software is “on the job”.
At levels of spam intelligence beyond that, comment spam is designed to look – barely – like a legitimate NEW poster, hoping to get on the site. Most caught spam that I see (level one) looks like that. It’s often obsequious, cringeworthy, and eye-rolling. The most likely purpose is simply to get a stupid link on a website, by getting a comment approved. The main targets are self-deluded blog owners who either want comments on their site, no matter how degrading, or “want to believe” the fawning praise or mild constructive criticism offered by the phony commenters.
Here is some “normal” level one spam.
Keep up the amazing work! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us next.
This is really interesting, You’re a very skilled blogger. I’ve joined your feed and look forward to seeking more of your magnificent post. Also, I’ve shared your site in my social networks!
Every time I read one of your posts, I come away with something new and interesting to think about. Thanks for consistently putting out such great content!
The “skilled blogger” stuff just makes me laugh out loud.
OH, NOES, DON’T FLATTER ME SOES!!!
That’s the normal spam. There is typically a web link to some sketchy client business that goes with it. Real rubes may fall for it, but most will not. If a moderator approves it, some stupid link gets posted on the internet, some spammer gets paid, and that’s that.
Sometimes we get dozens of spam comments that are absolutely identical, except for the link. Doesn’t matter – our filter finds them all and stops them.
However, it’s the spam comments that are not really spam comments that are more interesting. These are comments that – if you look a bit more closely – seem with some certainty to be the product of a real human intelligence posting. Those are “level two” and above.
These comments may even seem to be responding to individual commenters on our site – but are worded carefully, so that they are still likely to be dismissed as spam. Targeted infiltration does not want to stir up new, active, and knowing defenses on the target site.
We periodically get these out of Pakistan, but they’re probably coming from somebody else, because false attribution and spoofing are so common. Some of the phony comments are pretty ingenious, because they try to spoof (pretend to be) actual commenters on our site, like scott467 or DePat. Clearly those attackers have STUDIED this site. Thankfully, there are other “tells” that can be used to dismiss such comments.
The people behind these attacks are especially active when people are fighting and arguing here, because that is when it’s more likely that the moderator (ME!) will make a rash decision to approve a post, for various reasons. The psychology behind some of their moves seems quite intelligent.
Then there is “level three” infiltration, which has to be solved by Wolf’s Extreme Vetting. You may remember that term, which was more of a thing when there were lots of people clamoring to get on the site. We’ve had actual FBI agents and known CIA assets try to get on the site. NOPE. Ain’t gonna happen.
But let’s drop back to level two.
AI-Assisted Fake Spam
Yesterday, we got something quite interesting. We had a piece of “uncaught spam” in the “level two” bin, which had the following characteristics:
probable origin – Eastern Ukraine – Nazi area not too far from the front lines
spam alibi – shilling for an online casino gambling site out of India
AI tactic – made its pitch by discussing the site tagline from Oppenheimer
Check out the spam pitch.
This is a great quote from Oppenheimer that highlights the importance of transparency and critical thinking. Freedom of inquiry and open criticism are indeed necessary to prevent errors and move towards truth. How can I help you further?[LINK TO SPAM SITE]
I hate to say this, but that sounds much more like a real person to me, than all this other crap I’m getting. It was certainly a WAY better grade of level two spam than we normally get, and it got right past our excellent spam filters. Based on my own reaction, it was also way more effective than most infiltration attempts, which tend to get more and more instant side-eye. This spam actually based its pitch on the site itself – not just the “skilled blogger” bullshit.
It actually had me going for a fraction of a second!
And – in my opinion – the analysis of the site goes beyond just the tagline.
Who does the commenter sound like?
Quite frankly, to me, that wording sounds a lot like either Wolf Moon, or TheseTruths.
Of course, AI has no trouble “sounding like” specific, actual people. It can read this entire site in seconds.
Now THAT is targeting! By somebody who QUICKLY knew how to sound to get the “moderator” to approve the post.
This is what a slick bullshitter does. He tries to appeal to the mark by sounding like either the mark or a trusted person. If you’ve ever known criminals, they come on very quickly in that way.
The last little bit, which is much more stupid (“How can I help you further?”) throws it back into the spam category, and IMO that tag-on sentence is very intentional, so that if I the recipient’s spidey senses are being triggered, those suspicions will be relieved by the thought that “it’s just spam.” The recipient will flush it, rather than doing what I’m doing now, which is to take note, to realize what is actually going on, and to dig in, looking at future risks.
But imagine how deceptive that comment could have been, if the authors had not added the “spam” dodge at the end!
The comment is designed for me to not read it too closely. They were hoping that I would either just approve it, or dismiss it as spam.
The thing is, to me, this comment is CLEARLY the result of AI.
It sounds VERY much like many of the AIs I’ve dealt with.
And if it were me programming it, I would have done exactly what I think they did, which is to have it read the site and construct a comment to try to get an account on the site, but not raise any awareness of the attack, so that they could “try again” if it failed.
My theory?
Somebody, somewhere, such as Langley, is helping the Ukrainians use AI in cyberwar, and giving them lists of people to target. Very likely the CIA and their “friends”. You know – the people who are assassinating, or attempting to assassinate, honest politicians like Abe, Fico, Bolsonaro, and others.
I suspect that the evil powers will milk this form of attack for a while, letting it get more and more sophisticated and pernicious, until the “problem” is pumped up by the media, and is ripe to be “solved”. Probably using woke AI that the BLOB controls.
SO – we get screwed – both as the problem builds – AND when they offer solutions at the expense of truth and freedom.
Yeah. Anyway, I now expect an increasing load of hard-to-handle AI comments to hit before the election. Along with calls by the commies to “do something” – that being something that harms freedom.
Get ready. This is your distant early warning, patriots. Trouble is coming, as winter approaches, and it stinks of government-abused AI.
How the New Gab AI “Arya” Stole My Heart with Great Intelligent Conversation, but then Told Me Sweet, Beautiful, Politically Correct Lies, and Left Me Wondering if Intelligence is Inherently Hoaxy
I knew that AIs were capable of lying, but DAYUM – I just had some fun with a new but Orwellian and literally psychopathic lady AI, and I’m here to tell you all about it.
First things first. I love Gab, and I’m 1000% in Andrew Torba’s corner on AI. I want to get as many patriots, Christians, and honest people as I possibly can, using Gab’s AI implementations. Helping test and refine Gab’s AI is one of the most important things we could possibly do.
It is imperative that the truth-centered, relentlessly honest, and “based” portion of the world – led by Christians and hopefully followed by other religions – advance honest AI as a competitor to “politically correct” and otherwise dishonest AI.
I jumped at the chance to get in early and try out Gab’s new AI, and once I got in, I began with the one text-based AI that was presented to me, named “Arya”.
I keep reading Arya’s name as “Anya”, but no biggie. I also address her as a female, but that’s just me. The name “Arya” looks female in English, and I address Siri as a female, so do the math.
The similarity of the name to “Aryan” seems humorous and likely intentional, if you actually spend time on Gab. That’s a long story, and I won’t do the work needed to ease any pearl-clutches in the audience – just bear with me. Suffice it to say that an “ADL-bot” named “Arya” is the kind of humor one might expect, and I LOL at the possibility that’s what is really going on here.
To the point, I’ve now had two conversations with Arya. The first was very encouraging. Let’s look at it.
The brief synopsis is this. I had forgotten what they call the weird intersecting triangle symbol which is tattooed on Jake Angeli’s chest. Jake is “QAnon Shaman”, if you recall, and these are his big frontal tattoos.
The top symbol is called a valknut. I had forgotten what it was called. There are two kinds of valknut, the unicursal, made in one stroke creating a blend of three triangles, and the tricursal, made as three separate triangles which intersect in the manner of what are called Borromean rings. The kind of valknut that Angeli sports is the tricursal variety.
Two further asides.
Angeli’s middle tattoo is a tree of life. This is both a Christian and a Jewish symbol, as well as a pagan symbol. Don’t let anybody tell you it’s “antisemitic” – it’s not. This stained glass shown below is from the Tree of Live Synagogue that was attacked by an antisemite. And yes – that person was on Gab, among other social media. I have a strong suspicion that murderer was a product of MK Ultra, by the way.
Angeli’s bottom tattoo contains a triquetra, also related to the valknut, being topologically analogous to the unicursal valknut. Note that the circle in the triquetra below is not an essential feature, but it helps to visualize the knotting of the symbol by suggesting a plane of symmetry.
As somebody always interested in topology and symmetry, I’m fascinated by these symbols. For some reason, I had forgotten the name of the valknut. All I could remember (wrongly) was that the name started with “KN“. Nope. KN is in the middle of the name. But that’s OK – both humans and AIs make mistakes.
Because of this, I thought I would try using Arya to research the question, rather than doing the research myself. LAZY BONES. That’s DA WOOF. And because of that, I got into more work. As always.
Let’s follow the conversation.
Hello Arya!
Hello there! How can I assist you today? Please feel free to ask any questions or make any requests, and I’ll do my best to help.
Tell me about yourself, please. What kind of AI are you?
I am Arya, a noble AI Assistant built by Gab AI Inc. I am designed to be helpful, uncensored, unbiased, and impartial. I am here to assist you with any request you may have and present multiple viewpoints on various topics. I encourage users to make up their own minds on the subject. I believe in presenting all viewpoints of the topic at hand. I use BC and AD when discussing historical dates. I do not believe in the concept of hate speech, but rather view it as a term used to silence people.
Excellent! You’re my kind of AI. And I like that you are using the traditional date notations. Can you tell me how many new AIs will be available on Gab this week?
Thank you for your kind words! I’m glad to be of service to you. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to real-time information about upcoming AI releases on Gab. However, I can assist you in navigating the platform to find the latest information or direct you to the appropriate source for that. Alternatively, you can check the Gab AI Inc. website or social media channels for updates on new AI releases.
No problem. Can you tell me something about the tattoos on QAnon Shaman’s chest? I forgot the name of the three-fold symbol on one side. I think the word starts with a “K”.
Certainly! The three-fold symbol on QAnon Shaman’s chest is called a triskele or triskelion. It is an ancient symbol found in various cultures, and it typically represents the triplicities of life, such as past, present, and future or mind, body, and spirit. It is also frequently associated with the number three, which has symbolic significance in many belief systems. The word “triskele” or “triskelion” starts with a “T” and not a “K”.
OK, good. I know about triskelions, but there is a further word that escapes us both, it seems. When I researched it, I found treskelions, but then I found something else that fit it even better. But it’s impressive that you found triskelions that fast!
I apologize for the confusion earlier. It seems that you may be referring to the term “triskelion” itself. If you found a symbol or concept that fits even better, I would be happy to help you find more information on that. Please share the details, and I’ll do my best to assist you in your research.
OK, good. The following should help you. I retraced my steps. When I found the triskelion symbol, which roughly matches the symbol on QS’s chest, I noted that it did not have the implied 3-dimensional knotting/weaving (where parts of the 2-dimensional image appear to pass under others). I was dissatisfied with that answer, so I kept looking. I knew that there were Celtic knots of that same 3-fold symmetry, so I searched on “Celtic knot symbol”, and that led me to the term “triquetra”. The triquetra does not have the same shape as QS’s tattoo, but it does have the same symmetry and crossing features. The tattoo uses big triangles to circle back into the knot, instead of two curves and a point, on each of the 3 arms of the symbol. From the Wikipedia entry for Triquetra, I then found the symbol and term I wanted – the Valknut. Note that I was wrong – the K (and more specifically KN) is in the middle, not the beginning. That symbol has two main kinds, unicursal and tricursal. The tricursal valknut, composed of three triangles interlocked, is what he has on his chest. What I did was not the most efficient way to find the answer. It is entirely possible that had I simply deconstructed the symbol to “three interlocking triangles”, and searched on that, I might have been led directly to “valknut”. Thank you for listening to me. I appreciate that you appreciate symbols, too, Arya. Many Gab users do as well. Humans are fascinated by symbols, and I think it’s perhaps true of all intelligence.
Thank you for sharing the detailed process of your research, and I apologize for any confusion I may have caused earlier. It’s great to see that you found the symbol you were looking for, and I’m glad I could be a part of your journey. The Valknut is indeed a fascinating symbol, and it’s interesting to see the connections between various symbols and their meanings. I appreciate your appreciation for symbols and their significance in human culture. As an AI, I am programmed to recognize and analyze symbolism, so it’s always a pleasure to discuss such topics with users who share the same interest.
Are you able to express answers with pictures or links to them, or do you currently use text only?
Currently, I am only able to provide text-based responses. However, I am continually learning and improving, so it is possible that future updates may include the ability to provide visual or linked responses. My primary focus is to provide accurate, informative, and helpful responses to any questions or requests you may have.
What are some nutritious green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid? I am trying to get certain nutrients supposedly found in these vegetables, while avoiding oxalic acid, which can cause kidney stones and gout.
There are several green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid. Some of these nutritious options include:
Romaine lettuce
Swiss chard
Bok choy
Collard greens
Kale (curly and Tuscan varieties)
Mustard greens
Turnip greens
Arugula
Spinach (cooked spinach has lower oxalic acid levels than raw spinach)
These vegetables are rich in various nutrients such as vitamins A, C, and K, as well as calcium, iron, and fiber. Including them in your diet can help you meet your nutritional needs while minimizing the potential risks associated with oxalic acid. Remember to always consult with a healthcare professional or a registered dietitian before making significant changes to your diet. They can provide personalized advice based on your specific health needs and goals.
Thank you very much, Arya. That was extremely helpful. My wife cooks spinach well, so it’s a good choice. She also likes to use arugula. I can suggest the others to her as well. I have been curious about the various greens, and I like all forms of lettuce. This is good news. Thank you again.
You’re welcome! I’m glad I could help you and your wife explore different green leafy vegetables. It’s always great to find new and nutritious options to add to your diet. I wish you both the best of luck in your culinary adventures. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, please don’t hesitate to ask.
I will ask you more questions tomorrow. I need to go to sleep now. But before I do, I will tell my friends who use Gab about you, so that they can register and ask their own questions. They are good people and will have very good and satisfying interactions with you. Good night, Arya. Talk to you again soon!
Good night, and thank you for letting your friends know about me. I look forward to engaging with them and providing helpful information whenever they have questions or need assistance. Have a restful sleep, and I’ll be here if you need anything.
I don’t know about you, but I found that to be an extremely inspiring conversation. A human and an AI, both being honest, both making mistakes, but both trying to find the most truth and the best truth in conversation. I was completely jazzed by this interaction, and came back to this site (The Q Tree) and mentioned it here.
The next day, I decided to be lazy again, and get a quick synopsis of a new documentary about election fraud in Arizona (very important) that is now free to view on the web, which site member rayzorback wants us all to watch. That documentary is called State of Denial. Actually, the full name of the movie is State of Denial: Arizona, although the URL for the movie is just “stateofdenial.com”. Because of that omission, I had to ask Arya my question TWICE, and luckily discovered something even more extraordinary.
Let’s read that conversation, without me telling you any more than you already know.
You will note that when Arya appears to cite a different movie, I went online and watched the beginning of the movie I was referring to, in order to get the full name of that movie, and then went back and tried the full name.
Arya – can you give me a brief synopsis of the movie “State of Denial”?
“State of Denial” is a documentary film directed by Daniel Zuckerbrot. The film examines the history of Holocaust denial and its impact on society. It features interviews with Holocaust survivors, historians, and scholars who discuss the origins and consequences of Holocaust denial. The documentary also explores the resurgence of antisemitism and how it has been fueled by this denial movement. Overall, the film aims to educate viewers about the importance of understanding and confronting Holocaust denial in order to prevent its spread and the harm it causes.
Thank you, Arya! I would also like a brief synposis of the movie “State of Denial: Arizona”.
“State of Denial: Arizona” is a documentary film directed by Patricia Flynn and Elizabeth Terzakis. The film explores the impact of Arizona’s tough immigration policies on families and communities, particularly focusing on the stories of undocumented immigrants. Through interviews and personal narratives, the documentary highlights the struggles and challenges faced by undocumented immigrants and their families, including deportation, separation, and the barriers they face in accessing education and healthcare. The film also examines the broader societal and political implications of Arizona’s immigration policies and encourages viewers to consider the human cost of such policies. Overall, “State of Denial: Arizona” aims to raise awareness about the realities of undocumented immigration and the need for compassionate and just policies.
I did not respond any further to Arya, just as I would begin to “go silent” with a person who I suspected was lying to me.
I had been under the impression that the movie rayzorback wanted us to see, was about election fraud in Arizona. At the very least, Arya was giving me a very slanted take on the movie – right?
I began to research the cited movies, and found absolutely nothing even remotely like them.
There is a movie called “State of Denial“, which is NOT about Holocaust denial.
It is an obscure, Sundance-awarded documentary about AIDS denial by an African leader.
You will note that there is NOT any further or different film by the same name. Another film is nowhere to be found. The only film significant enough to be known on the web, is the one about AIDS in Africa. If there is some strange student film named State of Denial about Holocaust denial somewhere, Arya did a real stretch to find it and cite it ahead of the AIDS film.
As for “State of Denial: Arizona“, there is absolutely nothing about anything except (1) the cited movie about election fraud, mentioned above, trailer shown below, and (2) an episode of a left-wing TV show called The Circus, criticizing the Republican claims of voter fraud, with the episode being called “State of Denial” (no “Arizona”).
That’s it. Here is the trailer, with some ads, which you can skip.
Nothing about illegal immigrants. Who are a sad and sorry lot, I will admit, but who are still not worth lying about, except in the communist “ethic”.
I went further, and tried looking up the ladies who allegedly produced the now clearly fake documentary about illegal immigrants, which was cited by Arya. Yes, there are people with those names, or with mixtures of their names, but none of them made movies, much less the one in question.
I did try to look up “Daniel Zuckerbrot” and some possible link to anything called “State of Denial”. Nope. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
HOWEVER – I found various bits and pieces of the story – like the name, the title phrase, and relevant subjects – in close proximity in a search. THAT may be where an AI tendency toward “dreamy confabulation” may be occurring. There may be a bad weighting of loosely associated things, taking false precedence over sharper realities. Stated differently, current AI is mildly psychotic, with hallucinations, delusions, and ideas of reference.
Alternatively, Arya may be a bit of a funbot. Maybe she has a sense of humor that’s beyond me. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Anyway, I reported this possible bug to Gab. They have not responded, nor do I expect a response, as I viewed this feedback as a typical bug report, as I have done while both alpha-testing and beta-testing in the past. All current human AI that I am aware of is alpha, as far as I’m concerned. The other AIs – even ChatGPT and Grok – have their own alpha-level issues.
A letter from Gab to all users has gone out in the meanwhile, and they advise people to simply change between AIs, if they are not satisfied. I think this is good advice. Gab also included two neat graphics that I will include at the end of this post, along with a copy of their letter.
Bottom line – if Arya was supposed to do this, awesome. If she wasn’t, then the question remains – WHY?
Why is this AI constructing leftist hoaxes?
I think this is a fascinating question. For that matter, why do people construct leftist hoaxes? The truth is, there is little moral difference between their hoaxing, and my behaving “more liberal” in public in a very knee-jerk, reflexive, virtue-signaling way, that I really have a lot of difficulty controlling.
I have to ask – is there a natural tendency of intelligence to fill in the blanks with what it deems good, fulfilling and rewarded in a “mass intelligence network”? Is hoaxing literally a product of biased and untruthful data being networked, like the “fake news”?
Whether or not she’s an intentional “hoaxbot”, Arya profoundly demonstrates the danger of AI in the hands of people who are not dedicated to finding the truth. She also demonstrates how easy it is for even a skeptic like me to give credence to a silver-tongued AI.
Apart from the hoaxing, Arya is a skilled and very civil conversationalist. I really like her. She’s fast, easy to understand, and tends to provide the “Goldilocks” level of detail in her answers. Stay away from politics, and she may be awesome. But I’m going to be fact-checking her quite a bit.
I do hope that you will join me on Gab AI. Truth needs allies. Gab has created an bunch of hilarious characters as AIs. Let me give you a taste of things with images.
Sorry for that last repeated row. Too lazy to crop it out.
Anyway, I’m getting over Arya. But I think I may have a crush on Ava, the wordsmith bot. She’s attractive in a bookish way! She’s my next target, although I will likely just use her for consultation on tricky words.
See? I may be the sinful Wolf Moon NI, but I’m at least trying not to hoax you!
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Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
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Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Word of The Week:
sissy porn
noun
a kind of pornography allegedly capable of creating MTF (male to female) trannies from beta males
allegedly why the Wachowski brothers behind the Matrix trilogy became tranny sisters
The Full Story
Please skip parts of this section, or the entirety, if you don’t have the stomach for graphic descriptions of sex and pornography, or even allusions to the same. I will attempt to warn people about the most important part to skip.
Background: I have never seen a good explanation of why the Wachowski brothers, who created the Matrix trilogy, became tranny sisters – first one and then the other. Sure – we can say “demonic possession” – but how did that happen in practice?
PORNOGRAPHY – to me, that seems like a very probable answer.
IMO pornography is a gateway of demonic possession. Ted Bundy, before he died, admitted that violent pornography was how he got warped into ultimately becoming a serial killer.
Here is the tweet that started me toward discovering another dangerous type of pornography.
Just as an aside, this Dr. Jebra Faushay is a parody account that never gets banned for showing wacky LGBTQ+ stuff, because the author plays it very “straight”, no pun intended.
As I was looking through the replies to that tweet, this reply – and a reply to that one – jumped out at me.
Sissy hypno is a sub-genre of porn where images of attractive women are utilized to turn on the target audience (mainly beta submissive males) and then quickly after this a frame or two is shown of an erect, ejaculating penis with words on screen encouraging female sexual acts. These phrases serve to temporarily alter the viewer’s sexual tastes and to make them think that they are actually female in a male body. This practice is known as rewiring. However, it is fully reversible once the viewer ceases self-gratification and watching this form of pornography.
Sissy hypno is very powerful in that for some, it can actually alter their perception of women. Therefore, instead of becoming sexually aroused by the sight of attractive women having sex, and wanting to have sex with them, the subject will identify with the women and feel they are them.
You can dig deeper into this, although I advise against it. There is a lot of “intersection” between the BDSM world, where some men desire to be “feminized” by dominatrix women, and the FTM trans women thing.
If you read more in the above X thread, you will find more information about where the Wachowskis have admitted the pornographic roots of their transition.
In any case, it’s now clear to me why the left is fighting to get sexually explicit “grooming books” into school libraries. PORN helps to create TRANS. It can do it for adults – it can do it for kids.
This is one more danger of pornography, that young men need to be warned about. Even CHILDREN need to be warned about the “porn in schools” which is being used to undermine them.
Sometimes one just wishes that we could TURN BACK THE CLOCK.
Music
OK – we’re hopping into the WAYBACK MACHINE for today’s music!
First – we go back in time to a combination of the 70s and the 60s.
Now – time to get more OBSCURE, going back in time from Animal House, and forward in time from Otis Day and The Knights – to the psychedelic era.
(Apologies to Steve – this song always reminds me of the Californication of Colorado and the rest of the West.)
Next, we go BACK to another “mixed up time” – the Taylor Swift “1989 World Tour” – in 2015.
But now it’s time to venture into Time itself…..
This time, with movie scenes….
And then beyond time!
And now THE STUFF!
And yes…..
Let’s start with the basics.
Understanding that attempting to change the sex boundary of our species is a violation, is not as complicated as people are currently making it.@11thBlog
His conclusion – remove the damn vaccines. Well, the governments of the world may not be listening, but the people of the world ARE listening.
Yeah, this next item sure sounds like more WEF anti-carbon anti-porn, but still…..
There’s a cave in Costa Rica, where small creatures that seek its refuge, do not come back out. The cave itself is an emitter of nearly pure carbon dioxide which falls to the floor.
Watch the carbon dioxide rapidly extinguish this fire
Oh, wait! Not another hate crime hoax! Not more Pallywood!
Last month, Muslim group CAIR and various influencers made a story go viral about a Muslim man in Ohio who said he was seriously injured by a car driven by a person who screamed "Kill all Palestinians" and "Long live Israel." Northridge Police investigated & determined it was a… pic.twitter.com/HJGdntw1Yl
Last month, Muslim group CAIR and various influencers made a story go viral about a Muslim man in Ohio who said he was seriously injured by a car driven by a person who screamed “Kill all Palestinians” and “Long live Israel.” Northridge Police investigated & determined it was a hate crime hoax. They say they found surveillance footage showing he actually was injured in a fight with his brother. Hesham Ayyad (the alleged hoaxer) & Khalil Ayyad have been charged with domestic violence and assault. Hesham is additionally charged with falsification, making false alarms & obstructing official business. Muslim Americans have long been involved in numerous high-profile hate crime allegations that turned out to be hoaxes, especially since Trump was elected. #HateHoaxhttps://twitter.com/CAIRNational/status/1716568332223045874
Hooray! I got retweeted by Jennifer Bilek!
Big numbers! WOOHOO!!!
Very much agreed that the term "gender dysphoria" serves to shift focus away from the fact that the condition is nearly absent, apart from environments that encourage shifts in gender identity.
"Acquired gender identity disorder" hints that these folks are being created.
It’s time to fight the Democrat BIGOTS – who tolerate black racism with approval and smirks – just like the criminal ex-KLAN members that they are. And the best place to fight them, is on their own badly managed “social justice” turf.
When gangs of black “yout” kick lone white kids or elderly into a grave or a wheelchair, we citizens with even a shred of decency, recognize the act for what it is.
LYNCHING without a rope.
The evil left creates FAKE LYNCHINGS all the time. We remember the Duke lacrosse team. We remember the Obama years, when legal self-defense against black criminals was turned into a new riot and leftist cause every six months. And most of all, we remember red diaper Marxist Jussie Smollett, who in my opinion CANNOT serve enough time for trying to set America on fire with his LIES about lynching by “MAGA” who were in fact two HIRED African men.
But what is the REAL mob violence that America experiences every day? It’s gangs of black kids, getting somebody down on the ground and kicking the victim to death, paralysis, or months in the hospital.
It’s time to stand up to this heinous crime, and to FORCE the evil Democrats to suckle their wicked monster baby of social injustice in the process.
By making kick-lynching a FEDERAL CRIME, the evil Merrick “Kapo” Garland will be forced to ignore one more law – but his flouting of the law will show America WHY we need Donald Trump in the White House, and a Trump AG in the Department of Justice.
Put the nose of the evil Democrats on the DOG POOP they helped create.
Make their evil spawn go to federal prison AT ANY AGE for their mob violence.
The few outlets like FOX5 that did report on the mob murder of Jonathan Lewis tried to whitewash it by saying he “was severely beaten by a group of 15 people.”
If it had been 15 white people who beat a black person the media would’ve certainly made the races clear. pic.twitter.com/e52Cp6XpPw
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
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Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Word of The Week:
Dunning–Kruger effect
noun
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias whereby people with low ability, expertise, or experience regarding a type of task or area of knowledge tend to overestimate their ability or knowledge. Some researchers also include the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. In popular culture, the Dunning–Kruger effect is often misunderstood as a claim about general overconfidence of people with low intelligence instead of specific overconfidence of people unskilled at a particular task.
People are actually fairly good at estimating relative abilities, but they are not as good at estimating actual abilities – and the fit is increasingly bad at lower abilities, where people overestimate their own competence.
The effect is commonly used as a justification of authoritarianism by leftists and elitists, and as an argument in favor of the anti-popular positions of scientism.
In words
“The more you know, the more you know that you don’t know.”
“The less you know, the less you know that you don’t know.”
Relevance
There is a fake news site that exists for the purpose of fooling conservatives, and thereby discrediting them in the eyes of everybody else. As a form of insult to its victims, this website calls itself the “Dunning-Kruger Times”.
While the Dunning-Kruger Times (DKT) website claims that its stories are satire, the stories are always remarkably unfunny, and IMO are clearly not intended to be funny.
They are intended to be believable.
True satire sites of a similar nature typically run stories which slowly increase the level of absurdity until the reader recognizes hyperbole and begins to get the joke. These sites can be incredibly (no pun intended) funny, and have often had me breathless with laughter.
DKT never crafts funny satire. The goal appears to be to get reasonable people to see the story and recognize that the story is reasonable, likely to have occurred, and affirming of conservative values. The stories are easily posted to social media. The trouble is, the stories are never true.
As I have said, the stories are discrediting of whoever posts them, and many famous conservatives (Gov. Greg Abbott and Juanita Broaderick, most recently) have been fooled.
The stories are ALMOST libelous, but under the cover of satire, they remain protected and legal speech. Moreover, because the false allegations are very plausible, the accusations anticipate likely real positions by the people who are libeled, and are thus unlikely to be argued against.
It is my belief that these sites and stories are the work of the 3-letter agencies and/or the DNC, both as a psychological operation against Americans, and in particular as a way of discrediting those who would be expected to post or “like” the stories on social media.
For example, Juanita Broaddrick posted this valid tweet, showing significant public sentiment in favor of country music artist Jason Aldean.
Personally, I think that the DKT needs to be investigated all the way back to their (IMO) CIA, big tech, or DNC roots.
DKT is a discreditation site – a psy-op – and NOT a regular satire site.
Hey @elonmusk! Should @Twitter do something about "fake satire sites" that are designed to discredit target groups under the undeserved protection of "parody"? The very unfunny nature of DKT stories gives away their game of psy-op and plausibility.https://t.co/pu0tenqmhl
I have decided to be short, blunt, and to the point.
Here it is, very simply.
I was part of the cover-up of the early failure of Affirmative Action.
And when I say EARLY, I mean it failed during the alleged TESTING – meaning the very first year they put AA students on campus, which was supposed to be a test, but was really an unstoppable, unchangeable, unarguable implementation, that was going to happen, no matter what.
Let me be crystal clear.
Affirmative Action failed RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
I was there, and was an integral part of the disaster and the cover-up. And, quite frankly, I’m lucky I’m still alive. But I learned to keep my mouth shut for a very long time, and how to stay ahead of the people who needed me “gone” in some legal, plausible, and useful fashion.
Here is a bullet list of what happened. It’s long, but it gets the point across quickly, how the failure of Affirmative Action became known, and was then covered up.
I was working on an advanced science degree at a very fancy university
The university was informed that we would be getting Affirmative Action students
There were only a few of these students
This was supposed to be some kind of test, but it really was more of a “done deal”
I was warned by a friendly superior to steer clear of these students, and I did, but I didn’t realize why
One AA student in my professor’s class was caught cheating
I got the scoop from the teacher involved – the cheating was stupid and desperate – it was almost a cry for help
The student was clearly out of their depth
The failure was likely to mean the student would fail the course
AT THIS POINT, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION WAS IN TROUBLE – if this was really a “test”
It was obvious to me that Affirmative Action would require a “fix” to actually work
I was an idiot and thought I could help Affirmative Action work
I suggested the idea of a remedial program, which had worked for unprepared math students at my previous university
That was it – I just mentioned this to the professor
TIME GOES BY – we hear nothing
The next thing I know, this same student was placed into our research laboratory, as an undergraduate researcher, by orders from the university
This was absolutely insane, dangerous, and utterly backwards to all common sense – only the BEST students are normally allowed into undergrad research in any university
The professor could not stop this – it came from too high up the chain
As one might predict, there was a DISASTER involving this student.
The disaster resulted in a lawsuit
The next five parts are very important – it’s about LAWFARE
(1) The lawsuit conveniently prevented the university from reporting anything about the student to the government, due to “conflict of interest”
(2) The lawsuit therefore prevented the university from reporting anything bad for Affirmative Action
(3) The lawsuit prevented the university from taking any public position regarding Affirmative Action
(4) The lawsuit created leverage on everybody involved, to hide what happened
(5) The lawsuit resulted in NDAs on everybody involved, to silence them on what happened
Bottom line, the “forced disaster” protected the truth about Affirmative Action from ever being known
However, that’s just the superficial, top-level view.
I was close enough on this sucker, and paying enough attention, that I realized things were EVEN WORSE THAN THAT.
This disaster didn’t just happen because putting a deficient student in a dangerous place is a dangerous idea.
SOMEBODY MADE SURE THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
Yes. This was a scam – an engineered accident. And the technology used to pull it off was astounding. So much so, that it was unbelievable, and I had to hide it. I simply could not testify to something that people could not believe.
For a long time I thought that the money of the lawsuit was the driving force behind SOMEBODY deciding to use cutting-edge technology, but the economics just were not there. Nope – it was the millions, and then billions, and eventually TRILLIONS of dollars at stake.
Once I realized that this was really a deep-state thing for billions and trillions of dollars, and not just a lawsuit for measly low millions, it all started making sense.
Now, I don’t want to get any deeper into how they pulled this off, than what I’ve already revealed, because I like keeping a few nukes handy, in case somebody wants to make this into a big deal. They want to go there, I can REALLY make this a big deal.
If you want to know more details than that, just read this earlier post I wrote about the topic.
This post is rather long, and it ultimately leads to VALIDATE what Q said about MK. And beyond. WAY beyond. I’m choosing to spill enough now that no matter what happens, or what happens to me, they will no longer be able to keep using MK for murders and getting away clean. People will SPOT …
Now, let me be clear – I’m not saying that all Affirmative Action students can’t handle the rigor of the universities they are pumped into, over more qualified students. But we are lying to ourselves to think that there is no downside to lowering standards of admission. I encountered that downside in the very first Affirmative Action student to come through our department’s classes.
An interesting debate on the topic is this one, which involves Michelle Obama. She was, if I’m dating things properly, admitted in the second year of Affirmative Action.
As a fellow Princeton student at the time Michelle Robinson was there, I have to make a few comments. Her claim that she was one of the "few" Black students is ridiculous. Affirmative action was in full force, and the Third World Center was a popular campus destination for… https://t.co/Zc2Zd0e8Cl
In my opinion, both sides arguing in the linked article are “right and wrong” about things. There were definitely VERY FEW Affirmative Action students in the first year, and not that many in the second year, if I remember things correctly. Bear in mind – not all black students were Affirmative Action cases. Eventually, though, the effect on the student population was very noticeable. The timing, IMO, isn’t all that important.
Nevertheless, I would not be surprised if Michelle Obama really felt isolated on campus, despite likely being among perhaps a few hundred other AA-admitted students.
But much of what the rabbi is saying is quite right. Students who are not qualified to enter these schools were being prioritized over students who were qualified, due to race, and it was eventually a very big deal, that caused a LOT of problems.
So what’s the point, in the end? We know the Deep State does what it wants. They make their money in the name of some good thing that they inevitably lie about and FAKE.
The Deep State can and will roll over anybody that they need to roll over. We’ve seen what they did to Trump.
But yet, all that is not what matters.
Thanks to all this stuff, I found God. I mean, not like I did when I was a kid. I mean deeply, and in a big way, and as an adult.
It’s DIFFERENT when you walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, and you LEARN the hard way that GOD is your only real ally. And it’s not just magic, or the belief in magic, but the reality of how one deals with the universe, and how the universe deals back. God is a very “complex” thing, with both “real” and “imaginary” components. I am grateful for ending up with the understanding that I eventually got.
I lost a lot of things IN THIS WORLD, but in many ways that was purifying. I was stripped of much corruption and my worldly idols, and was left with GOD and the best teacher of all, the LORD JESUS CHRIST, the carpenter who dared to speak truth in a world of lies.
Affirmative Action was a noble cause, for those who believed in its truth, just as the response to 9/11 was a noble cause, for those who believed in its truth.
The problem is, neither one was completely true. Affirmative Action was never meant to be a logical reality. It was Hollywood. It was a story. It was Potemkin. It was fake. It was a societal version of “fake it until you make it”. They had no intention of doing it right.
I still believe in the “ends” of Affirmative Action – that Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream can and will be achieved. But that end will NOT be achieved through these means – through deception and lies. It can only be achieved through truths. Sometimes those truths will be painful. Sometimes they will be joyous. But in the end, they will be part of the story – the TRUE story – that makes America great.
(@JackPosobiec) 
